Hey guys, it's great to see so many of you showing interest in our product! We're investigating ETA PRIME's findings concerning the GPU ith some testing, balancing performance and power consumption. As for the thermal paste, ETA's board was one of the first produced, that we used in the lab for testing. We wanted ETA to have one of the first ones, we couldn't wait for his review! That thermal paste is not the one we use to produce new boards, so you won't experience the same issue. Keep creating!
@Ray N I'm happy to know that you are excited about our product. Clustering BOLTs is also what some colleagues at the office want to do. We're waiting eagerly for the campaign's boards to be delivered, to get our hands on some BOLTs to play with.
Is there any hope for a board with IPMI? -- this if it had 2 NICs(for failover or WAN/LAN), or some kind of PCIe hookup would be killer as a router/IDS/miniserver for home automation -- especially with all the IO you could control a bank of relays
@@tommihommi1 More like the price of all the other parts adds up. They've got a lot of ports and extras on this board that your average gamer doesn't need.
Just got mine and huge word of warning to anyone interested in buying this: 1 - A lot of hardware/OS do not work with this. I spent all day trying different Linux distros and none could detect the built in emmc or my m.2 ssd drives. I used the modified Ubuntu image that's on UDOO site and it doesn't work at all, unfortunately. Older windows versions also don't detect any of the drives, but the new 2019 edition of Windows does work for emmc. 2 - Upon installation I realized the temps were way too high - it was reaching 90 degrees on idle Once I removed the heatsink I discovered a sticker with a piece of paper and plastic sheet still attached to the the heat sink - it took about 30 minutes to scrub off the glue and the paper, cleaning the heatsink and reapplying the thermal paste was necessary. 3 - I tried several m.2 ssd models and none worked with UDOO BOLT. Many ram sticks don't work either. It's very very picky with hardware and overall is a very challenging SBC to use so far. I highly recommend waiting at least a year or even longer before purchasing this because there is simply no easy way to install stuff on it yet and the forum is full of confused users who are having a lot of trouble as well.
The TDP and the size of the Board is awesome. But the price... I got my 2400G setup complete with 16gb rams;ssd;power supplie for about 250€ in a mItx setup
For those people saying its to expensive for the perfomance you are right, BUT ITS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED A REGULAR PC, its a development board. Im really interested in the Microcontroller part, how its implemented? Is it as usefull as a Raspberry Pi? Also the Microcontroller part seems that for the price you expect something more powerfull or more capable for bigger projects.
The $400 is certainly worth it for people who want to use this board as intended...as a powerful maker board, and not just a mini emulator. That being said, once this thing becomes obsolete and the price drops to about half in the future, this would be pretty awesome to pick up for a mini emulator!
This board is out performing the LattePanda Alpha. That's going to be a problem for DFRobot. Haven't checked the Canadian price for this new board. DFRobot is still having support / communications problems ( my opinion) can you do a short comparison on both? As a maker this new board has some real advantages over the Alpha and hope to get one soon.Thanks for sharing 👍
Honestly, with QC like that best just to avoid this manufacturer and go for cheaper, more functional boards. No confidence that they can build a suitable board if they can't even apply suitable thermal paste correctly.
@@Mecrom which is even better for the target audience. Usually with the small boards we are powering them via batteries. With all the other bells and whistles (I2C + 12x analog inputs, 32u8, etc.) I'm surprised there's no BMS on board!
@@BrainSlugs83 If you want a battery and a fast cpu and GPU you might as well buy a laptop. Sure all the maker board stuff is a great feature, but I don't see many maker projects needing lots of GPU and CPU power and I just don't think it's worth the money for most people.
Ciao! The UDOO BOLT is not really a PC, it's a hacking computer. With UDOO BOLT you can create endlessly, and it comes with many things that PCs normally don't have: - it has many IOs; - a small form factor; - 25W TDP with a similar performance of 65W TDP processors; - 2x full USB-C with power delivery & Displayport; - Digital Optical audio S/PDIF and analog stereo output combo jack 3.5mm connector; So it's not just about the power, but all these things and more, like having an Arduino onboard.
@@UDOO Hard to convince the masses because these people look at your board and they think PC or gaming computer, which is really not the intention at all. People who understand what SBC are about are looking at boards like this and thinking, special projects, embedded systems, mobile robotics, wearables, IOT, etc. etc.
$300-$400 will give you a (thin) mini-itx board with the newest APU's that will outperform this thing by miles. Nice board for embedded development, not worth it for emulation and such.
@@Champabay the Asrock Deskmini A300 is pretty cheap considering its a case, mini-stx motherboard and PSU combo. You just have to buy the APU, SODIMM DDR4 and a M.2 or 2.5" SSD after that.
I wish this AMD made this motherboard size a stardard, i have no need for something as large as an ATX, even the mini itx can take up alot of room thanks to bulky cases.
@@ETAPRIME so I guess the asrock z390 is the smallest board that offers interchangeable apu. Pity it doesn't allow for regular ram instead of laptop ram.
good news and comparison you've done there. That saved me alot of time googling around. Thanks. The UDOO BOLT price is a bit high and it's not really that much smaller comparing 3200G/3400G build...
This config reminds me the Hades Canyon problem. It's a very good base on small form factor but the price is really criminal... For this level of performance, it's really too expensive. I'm a great fan of the Hades Canyon but i'll never buy it for this reason...
@@famishedrj3 i understand that. My Clevo P870TM1 Notebook on GTX 1080 and i7 8700 was expansive too. But it's not the same level of performances. Don't imagine that this board is bad for me. I think it's a great performance on this form factor. I'm just deceived to see concepts like the Hades Canyon being ignored so fast because off their prices. If the Hades Canyon were sold 500/600$ with Ssd and ram, it could be a consoles rival. The price was 900$ with Ssd and Ram. It was too much for customers... Even for the historical work with Intel and ATI.
@@Jiway-tu2nh This is a niche market, they can't make a ton and sell for less because there would not be a huge market. The average consumers buy consoles because the ease of use, they don't have to modify anything, install add-ons, software OS or parts, or use a complicated OS. This is made for tinkerers, business owners, and researchers for AI purposes, Tech Projects, Robotics, etc. Its not a big market so you have to make-up the deficit with a bigger price asking price.
RTWILLI is right, plus The UDOO BOLT is not really a PC, it's a hacking computer. With UDOO BOLT you can create endlessly, and it comes with many things that PCs normally don't have: - it has many IOs; - a small form factor; - 25W TDP with a similar performance of 65W TDP processors; - 2x full USB-C with power delivery & Displayport; - Digital Optical audio S/PDIF and analog stereo output combo jack 3.5mm connector; So it's not just about the power, but all these things and more, like having an Arduino onboard.
I love seeing things like this and maybe in the future they will come down in price to make it worth getting. I would probably go with an ITX build, but would love to get something like this for my kids to use.
I almost went with one of these a few months ago but ended up buying an ASRock A300W and putting in a 2400G. The RAM and BIOS limitations along with UDOO not offering the Vega 11 version (this V1605B is basically a 2500U laptop APU in SBC form, I wanted the embeded 2700U) were the main reasons I went with the A300W. Hopefully UDOO will revisit their BIOS configuration and add a more comprehensive suite of options.
This thing is insane. I been messing and tinkering with Pi 4 and Pi zero for a couple years now. I wish this has a better price point because I soooo badly wanna mess with this SBC.
This will only make sense for those to those who want good performance but are severely constrained by space but its to be expected with such hardware specs. For anyone else not limited by space a full on desktop build with a Rizen 3200G is actually a better value in terms of performance per dollar. Still great review!
It could sense if your project makes use of I2C, analog io, or the 32u4 that are built in.. And you also needed a lot of compute. Say you needed to run a small neural network for machine learning...
I was a backer on this but unfortunately had to back out before the end. Luckily, I did get a Sapphire fp5v with the V1807B APU and I absolutely love it. The price is even worse though - not at all a value proposition.
These would be awesome boards for moderately powerful homemade arcade cabinets or console emulators. Especially with the CPU power they pack with options to expand on graphics if needed.
Yes yes I been waiting for this review and it's glorious !!!! Price maybe to expensive but compare to Intel Nuc this more cheaper consider the power it's will give than Intel Nuc and yes this is rival of Intel Nuc at least for me.
Been waiting for this to be released its using ryzen 1000 silicon that was available at the same time but now we have ryzen 3000 they really waited to long to release this product
By default the board is restricted to 15W, but can be derestricted to 25W in the bios - UDOO have a video on that on their youtube page. That should increase the gpu performance and fix that issue with the gpu clocks going all over the place.
I think APU is keeping it underclocked to avoid overheating. see if you can change setting to get rid of that. maybe boosting fan speed might help too.
This is the second time this happend. I remembered about and checked udoo bolt release date, then boom! you upload a vid on it :)) Holly cow! You've got the case too. Test that shadow of the colossus
I have realised that many people find the UDOO BOLT V8 is overpriced but, is it? After all, it is almost twice as powerful as a MacBook Pro 13 ($1299) equipped with an Intel i5 CPU and three times more powerful than a Mac Mini ($1099). It is also almost 4.5 times faster than the previous UDOO X86 Ultra. The UDOO BOLT V8 is about $418(without buying RAM)as of 2020. I think the UDOO BOLT V8 is a great SBC for its price. If I were to buy a PC for its price I think it would not match the performance of the board. I would love to get my hands on one.
It has no Ryzen chip, but I bought a beelink x45 for £135, that has an intel celeron j4105 4 core CPU 1.500 ghz 2.600 GHz boost, intel 600 ultra HD graphics, 6 GB 2400 ddr4 memory, a 128 gb SSD, its own case, power supply, and a genuine install of Windows 10. This thing is tiny, like twice the size of raspberry pi, or half the size of the asrock desk mini. It's a sweet silent little device, I use android TV and batocera, Linux, Kodi, it like how you would like the raspberry pi 4 to be.
I wonder about the applications beyond PC and gaming -lets put all those io pins to work and then output to an AR or VR headset. How about tapping into a car ECU and adding a load of other sensing. Teslas have loads of cameras, are they accessible? If I had it I would want to use it in a kayak and use the io for muscle activation and vitals. The price is reasonable for the small size and low power. It is just a matter of imagination for the right application.
I would like to see small motherboard just with bunch of sockets and connectors(or just even place for it) that can handle some older CPUs like core2duo or some other family that can support buffered DDR2 rams. It is possible to get such old cpu and ram and pay less then 4$.
Personally I think the pricing may seem high but considering what you're getting in terms of computing power it's right where it should be. You cannot compare this to something like a Raspberry Pi or Odroid. The Lattepanda is probably the SBC closest to this and these things blow it out of the water spec wise IMO. It's like comparing a mid-range ultra portable laptop to a base model Chromebook. They're both laptops but they're in completely different classes. And I bring up laptops because a board like this has a proprietary design & form factor like a laptop mainboard and uses most of the same components a laptop mainboard would use.
Ooh, this one is nice. The only problem is the price. It's really in a dilemma zone that you could either choose the smaller size vs cheaper yet more powerful of small form factor PC.
Size, size, size, this is all about the size. It would be better if they added another USB-C port and implemented PD, so people can share their power brick for this cutie, you know, it's about size, one extra power brick killed the purpose.
GPU throttling likely due to the CPU getting SoC voltage priority. If you can up the SoC voltage try limiting the max CPU speed in Windows power management to 85%. This should free up some power for the APU. Good luck.
Do you think we'll see a jumping in gaming performance when the low GPU clocks are fixed, or is it actually running at 1100mhz now and just under-reporting?
Have you checked the Energy Options in Windows 10? Some systems had issues in the past when it was set to balanced or power saver. Be sure you have set it to High Performance and test again if the GPU is still performing weak. I also heard that CPU and GPU might throttle down in an APU to stay inside the TDP limits.
You know, temperatures are so imprecise to measure, it is more or less standard to write them down using one or two digits after the dot - at the max. Even when you convert temps, because these small differences don't really matter.
nice video! and great SBC, but how about the performance with productivity applications, let say, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, VMware, etc?
You know what, this is AMD showcasing how they able to create a small form factor gaming machine in the mean time. Vega are strong, but imagine if Navi would embed to them, BOOOM PS5 folks
you can build a mini itx pc for 291 euro (brand new) and if you 418 you can even add a gtx 1050 ti the specs are: gigabyte b450m ds3h 2x 4GB 2666 MHz ram from g.skill 128 GB m.2 SSD gigabyte pb500 (500W psu) thermaltake versa h25 case
Do you have access to frequency, voltage and fan speed on Wattman? Maybe undervolting the GPU will help achieving higher clocks in it. And I believe on the latest drivers, Radeon Chill comes on by default, maybe that's what is keeping the frequency low.
@@wafiwalid_ not as powerful as this board. and slap it in a box with a monitor, clamp it with one of those controllers meant to for an android phone, and boom.
@@fairplayer916 that's a bit bulky and heavy you will need a battery,a charging regulator,alot of wiring ,a microphone,a speaker and many more so it's not as portable as the GPD.
It’s smaller than mini but aren’t we getting in to the size of sbc market that is going to be closer to a regular PC motherboard? Defeats the purpose? What do you think?
iGPU throttling could be cooling or power delivery. Try a beefier active cooler then higher wattage power adapter considering system board isn't limiting power input. Looking forward to Atari VCS comparison which should be a competing product at a lower price point.
gpu clock low because CPU taking all the power, it used to happen on my ryzen laptop , i fixed it by reducing the power ,that cpu can use by 30% in window's power option. or just update the bios .
Hey guys, it's great to see so many of you showing interest in our product! We're investigating ETA PRIME's findings concerning the GPU ith some testing, balancing performance and power consumption. As for the thermal paste, ETA's board was one of the first produced, that we used in the lab for testing. We wanted ETA to have one of the first ones, we couldn't wait for his review! That thermal paste is not the one we use to produce new boards, so you won't experience the same issue.
Keep creating!
@Ray N I'm happy to know that you are excited about our product. Clustering BOLTs is also what some colleagues at the office want to do. We're waiting eagerly for the campaign's boards to be delivered, to get our hands on some BOLTs to play with.
@@UDOO Are you guys going to be releasing videos about using this as servers?
Something like hypervisor or docker clusters?
Ciao @@123456iambelial , we're thinking about it. Check our blog, we're starting a project that requires that kind of suggestions!
@@UDOO still waiting for mine to arrive, but let's see if you are true to your word in regards to the new paste:D
Is there any hope for a board with IPMI? -- this if it had 2 NICs(for failover or WAN/LAN), or some kind of PCIe hookup would be killer as a router/IDS/miniserver for home automation -- especially with all the IO you could control a bank of relays
AMD should produce more embedded APUs, at a lower price. I believe there would be a market outside the usual slot-machines.
AMD embedded prices aren't that high, these guys are just milking it hard.
They have the R1000 series now that's cheaper than the V1000 in the Udoo Bolt.
The price goes to the R & D and the limited production run of these boards. This is not mass market. The apu itself is cheap
@@tommihommi1 More like the price of all the other parts adds up. They've got a lot of ports and extras on this board that your average gamer doesn't need.
They would just cannibalize themselves. Which is probably why they don’t.
Just got mine and huge word of warning to anyone interested in buying this:
1 - A lot of hardware/OS do not work with this. I spent all day trying different Linux distros and none could detect the built in emmc or my m.2 ssd drives. I used the modified Ubuntu image that's on UDOO site and it doesn't work at all, unfortunately.
Older windows versions also don't detect any of the drives, but the new 2019 edition of Windows does work for emmc.
2 - Upon installation I realized the temps were way too high - it was reaching 90 degrees on idle
Once I removed the heatsink I discovered a sticker with a piece of paper and plastic sheet still attached to the the heat sink - it took about 30 minutes to scrub off the glue and the paper, cleaning the heatsink and reapplying the thermal paste was necessary.
3 - I tried several m.2 ssd models and none worked with UDOO BOLT. Many ram sticks don't work either. It's very very picky with hardware and overall is a very challenging SBC to use so far.
I highly recommend waiting at least a year or even longer before purchasing this because there is simply no easy way to install stuff on it yet and the forum is full of confused users who are having a lot of trouble as well.
When Udoo released their Kickstart for Bolt, I did go "all in", and now I'm waiting my own V8 :D
Ciao Sami, happy to hear that, hope your BOLT gets to you soon!
The TDP and the size of the Board is awesome. But the price...
I got my 2400G setup complete with 16gb rams;ssd;power supplie for about 250€ in a mItx setup
Who'd you rob to get that so cheap?
@@ANF_94 just be patient. And always trade. You can always can get a discount. I looked around for around 1-2 months for my pc
I was basically given a 3200G with 8GB ram. Already had a spare SSD. Chucked it into an InWin Chopin. Gave it My old Windows 7 to run with.
Pricing really starts treading on low end PCs though. Not sure I’d prefer this over a mini ITX build.
Tony i suggest asrock a300 instead and add in your own cpu ....
@@NamelessPassenger Agree... That is what I have and it is great!
I'm still mad the deskmini a300 doesn't support normal ryzen CPUs, I wanted to use it for a server
@@tommihommi1 The regular Ryzen doesn't have an integrated GPU, which the A300 depends on.
@@shadowtheimpure 3200g and 3400g do
Finally, You review UDOO BOLT Thx for review
For those people saying its to expensive for the perfomance you are right, BUT ITS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED A REGULAR PC, its a development board. Im really interested in the Microcontroller part, how its implemented? Is it as usefull as a Raspberry Pi? Also the Microcontroller part seems that for the price you expect something more powerfull or more capable for bigger projects.
Wow, that price! Looks like a good performer but ouch to the wallet.
It's nothing for a production lab.
The $400 is certainly worth it for people who want to use this board as intended...as a powerful maker board, and not just a mini emulator. That being said, once this thing becomes obsolete and the price drops to about half in the future, this would be pretty awesome to pick up for a mini emulator!
This board is out performing the LattePanda Alpha. That's going to be a problem for DFRobot. Haven't checked the Canadian price for this new board. DFRobot is still having support / communications problems ( my opinion) can you do a short comparison on both? As a maker this new board has some real advantages over the Alpha and hope to get one soon.Thanks for sharing 👍
$420 and i might have to regrease the CPU? We should ignore this board till its $199
Honestly, with QC like that best just to avoid this manufacturer and go for cheaper, more functional boards. No confidence that they can build a suitable board if they can't even apply suitable thermal paste correctly.
Vega graphics is really something. And zen is simply an amazing architecture.
@Anthony Z It's far better than IGPUs from intel.
Nice board, but I think the price is way too high!
I mean you're getting pc level performance out of a tiny board, so i think the price is justified
@@jkgfhgkhjnvfcf1307 I mean it's 12-25W so it's more laptop level performance.
@@Mecrom which is even better for the target audience. Usually with the small boards we are powering them via batteries. With all the other bells and whistles (I2C + 12x analog inputs, 32u8, etc.) I'm surprised there's no BMS on board!
@@BrainSlugs83 If you want a battery and a fast cpu and GPU you might as well buy a laptop. Sure all the maker board stuff is a great feature, but I don't see many maker projects needing lots of GPU and CPU power and I just don't think it's worth the money for most people.
the pricing is too high for it - based on the price its cheaper really to buy an actual pc - its really overpriced
Ciao! The UDOO BOLT is not really a PC, it's a hacking computer. With UDOO BOLT you can create endlessly, and it comes with many things that PCs normally don't have:
- it has many IOs;
- a small form factor;
- 25W TDP with a similar performance of 65W TDP processors;
- 2x full USB-C with power delivery & Displayport;
- Digital Optical audio S/PDIF and analog stereo output combo jack 3.5mm connector;
So it's not just about the power, but all these things and more, like having an Arduino onboard.
@@UDOO Imagine dual cpu of this 😅
@@grapplerk2635 well I wouldn't want to summon the devil that way. :-)
@@UDOO Hard to convince the masses because these people look at your board and they think PC or gaming computer, which is really not the intention at all. People who understand what SBC are about are looking at boards like this and thinking, special projects, embedded systems, mobile robotics, wearables, IOT, etc. etc.
It's not overpriced considering you're comparing apples to pears
$300-$400 will give you a (thin) mini-itx board with the newest APU's that will outperform this thing by miles.
Nice board for embedded development, not worth it for emulation and such.
Im sure emulation would be insane on it tho. I wonder what game would max this thing out?
A cheap AMD NUC with APU would be sweet
That would be the roseta stone between consoles and pcs
Intel has a NUC that comes with radeon graphics as well as AsRock makes an all AMD apu NUC-a-like box.
@@Carboxylated yeah but those are not cheap. DIY would be a lot cheaper but not as small.
@@Champabay the Asrock Deskmini A300 is pretty cheap considering its a case, mini-stx motherboard and PSU combo. You just have to buy the APU, SODIMM DDR4 and a M.2 or 2.5" SSD after that.
Check out the AsRock Deskmini A300
I wish this AMD made this motherboard size a stardard, i have no need for something as large as an ATX, even the mini itx can take up alot of room thanks to bulky cases.
I searched and searched online for nano itx and everything I see has the cpu soldered to the board. Someone need to make them.
@@ETAPRIME so I guess the asrock z390 is the smallest board that offers interchangeable apu. Pity it doesn't allow for regular ram instead of laptop ram.
good news and comparison you've done there. That saved me alot of time googling around. Thanks. The UDOO BOLT price is a bit high and it's not really that much smaller comparing 3200G/3400G build...
this board is awesome
This config reminds me the Hades Canyon problem.
It's a very good base on small form factor but the price is really criminal...
For this level of performance, it's really too expensive.
I'm a great fan of the Hades Canyon but i'll never buy it for this reason...
Your paying for convenience of size and the engineering put into the design.
@@famishedrj3 i understand that. My Clevo P870TM1 Notebook on GTX 1080 and i7 8700 was expansive too. But it's not the same level of performances. Don't imagine that this board is bad for me. I think it's a great performance on this form factor. I'm just deceived to see concepts like the Hades Canyon being ignored so fast because off their prices.
If the Hades Canyon were sold 500/600$ with Ssd and ram, it could be a consoles rival. The price was 900$ with Ssd and Ram. It was too much for customers... Even for the historical work with Intel and ATI.
they ain't the same though. Ryzen Embedded are not for desktop consumers
@@Jiway-tu2nh This is a niche market, they can't make a ton and sell for less because there would not be a huge market. The average consumers buy consoles because the ease of use, they don't have to modify anything, install add-ons, software OS or parts, or use a complicated OS. This is made for tinkerers, business owners, and researchers for AI purposes, Tech Projects, Robotics, etc. Its not a big market so you have to make-up the deficit with a bigger price asking price.
RTWILLI is right, plus The UDOO BOLT is not really a PC, it's a hacking computer. With UDOO BOLT you can create endlessly, and it comes with many things that PCs normally don't have:
- it has many IOs;
- a small form factor;
- 25W TDP with a similar performance of 65W TDP processors;
- 2x full USB-C with power delivery & Displayport;
- Digital Optical audio S/PDIF and analog stereo output combo jack 3.5mm connector;
So it's not just about the power, but all these things and more, like having an Arduino onboard.
I love seeing things like this and maybe in the future they will come down in price to make it worth getting. I would probably go with an ITX build, but would love to get something like this for my kids to use.
Start with a Pi Zero for children's Stem projects for sure. It's what I taught my children to code on.
😍😍😍Dream board 🤤🤤
When are going to finish your portable LattePanda Alpha build? Are you waiting for the 864s?
The Latte Panda is pretty slow compared to this.
I almost went with one of these a few months ago but ended up buying an ASRock A300W and putting in a 2400G. The RAM and BIOS limitations along with UDOO not offering the Vega 11 version (this V1605B is basically a 2500U laptop APU in SBC form, I wanted the embeded 2700U) were the main reasons I went with the A300W. Hopefully UDOO will revisit their BIOS configuration and add a more comprehensive suite of options.
Not cheap, but a great board for its size.
I just checked out their website, and the BOLT is out!
This thing is insane. I been messing and tinkering with Pi 4 and Pi zero for a couple years now. I wish this has a better price point because I soooo badly wanna mess with this SBC.
That look nice. Wish someone would release one with the V1807B though.
hopefully udoo un-neuters the bios.
try disabling 2 of the cores. Just saw the smach z preview with the same ryzem embedded used. He was able to make boost the gpu clock after doing so.
Wasn’t SmachZ a scam?
@@vulcanitu2578 that's what I thought until the phawx made a vid about it and it's actually running
Can you imagine the 4200G and 4400G? Zen 2 and Navi/rDNA graphics? Gonna be insane...
IT’S FINALLY HERE!!!! Can’t wait to see more videos on this!
Spec-wise it's pretty similar to the Ryzen 2500U. I have a 15W ultrabook in that configuration. and speeds seems pretty similar.
On the UDOO BOLT is possible to increase the TDP up to 25W : ruclips.net/video/Uc97rUs_OvY/видео.html
Also possible to increase tdp on r5 2500u via RyzenController, which basically ryzen master for mobile apus
This will only make sense for those to those who want good performance but are severely constrained by space but its to be expected with such hardware specs. For anyone else not limited by space a full on desktop build with a Rizen 3200G is actually a better value in terms of performance per dollar. Still great review!
It could sense if your project makes use of I2C, analog io, or the 32u4 that are built in.. And you also needed a lot of compute. Say you needed to run a small neural network for machine learning...
If TDP was up to 45W this SoC would get incredible perfomance. Sad that specs shows such beatiful numbers, but it never gonna reach it in real usage.
I was a backer on this but unfortunately had to back out before the end. Luckily, I did get a Sapphire fp5v with the V1807B APU and I absolutely love it. The price is even worse though - not at all a value proposition.
These would be awesome boards for moderately powerful homemade arcade cabinets or console emulators. Especially with the CPU power they pack with options to expand on graphics if needed.
Yes yes I been waiting for this review and it's glorious !!!! Price maybe to expensive but compare to Intel Nuc this more cheaper consider the power it's will give than Intel Nuc and yes this is rival of Intel Nuc at least for me.
Still waiting for my board. Great quick view.
Yet another awesome single board computer. Enjoy learning about products I never heard of.
Been waiting for this to be released its using ryzen 1000 silicon that was available at the same time but now we have ryzen 3000 they really waited to long to release this product
By default the board is restricted to 15W, but can be derestricted to 25W in the bios - UDOO have a video on that on their youtube page. That should increase the gpu performance and fix that issue with the gpu clocks going all over the place.
Udoo Bolt V-8 , sounds like a super car.
9:35 Just a Casual Skyrim player with 100mill arrows
nice little beast.. especially for emulation !!!
I think APU is keeping it underclocked to avoid overheating. see if you can change setting to get rid of that.
maybe boosting fan speed might help too.
This might be a good little device for an arcade cabinet.
Don't arcade cabinets have plenty of room for a full-sized board?
@@chrisreynolds6391 Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean you want to do so.
This is the second time this happend. I remembered about and checked udoo bolt release date, then boom! you upload a vid on it :))
Holly cow! You've got the case too.
Test that shadow of the colossus
Is shadow of the Colossus available for pc?
@@daklhs6460 no, ps2 and a ps4 remake
@@vAscA187 I guess that. Thanks.
I have realised that many people find the UDOO BOLT V8 is overpriced but, is it? After all, it is almost twice as powerful as a MacBook Pro 13 ($1299) equipped with an Intel i5 CPU and three times more powerful than a Mac Mini ($1099). It is also almost 4.5 times faster than the previous UDOO X86 Ultra. The UDOO BOLT V8 is about $418(without buying RAM)as of 2020. I think the UDOO BOLT V8 is a great SBC for its price. If I were to buy a PC for its price I think it would not match the performance of the board. I would love to get my hands on one.
yes, this is great, but now it’s 2020, looking forward to your ryzen 4000 series, I would absolutely buy such a version
It has no Ryzen chip, but I bought a beelink x45 for £135, that has an intel celeron j4105 4 core CPU 1.500 ghz 2.600 GHz boost, intel 600 ultra HD graphics, 6 GB 2400 ddr4 memory, a 128 gb SSD, its own case, power supply, and a genuine install of Windows 10.
This thing is tiny, like twice the size of raspberry pi, or half the size of the asrock desk mini.
It's a sweet silent little device, I use android TV and batocera, Linux, Kodi, it like how you would like the raspberry pi 4 to be.
Did you ever figure out what is holding it back from it’s full 1000mhz potential? Your videos are top notch 👍👍
This sounds perfect for a mobile PC build
I wonder about the applications beyond PC and gaming -lets put all those io pins to work and then output to an AR or VR headset. How about tapping into a car ECU and adding a load of other sensing. Teslas have loads of cameras, are they accessible? If I had it I would want to use it in a kayak and use the io for muscle activation and vitals.
The price is reasonable for the small size and low power. It is just a matter of imagination for the right application.
At that price, it better come with all the accessories you showed.
If only I could get that I/O on a mini itx AM4 board.
2x hdmi, 2x USB4, and 2x usb 3 sockets for keyboard/mouse is really all I could ever need.
looking forward to seeing what you do with this, i've ordered an early bird so price was a bit lower but i'm still waiting on it...
So a single board ryzen computer 👌
I still consider it a single board computer but since you need to add ram most people won’t
But i like you can add ram instead of soilderd then you are not so limited
Considering building a beast of a standalone xr headset with one of these.
I would like to see small motherboard just with bunch of sockets and connectors(or just even place for it) that can handle some older CPUs like core2duo or some other family that can support buffered DDR2 rams. It is possible to get such old cpu and ram and pay less then 4$.
Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻
Personally I think the pricing may seem high but considering what you're getting in terms of computing power it's right where it should be. You cannot compare this to something like a Raspberry Pi or Odroid. The Lattepanda is probably the SBC closest to this and these things blow it out of the water spec wise IMO. It's like comparing a mid-range ultra portable laptop to a base model Chromebook. They're both laptops but they're in completely different classes. And I bring up laptops because a board like this has a proprietary design & form factor like a laptop mainboard and uses most of the same components a laptop mainboard would use.
Ooh, this one is nice.
The only problem is the price. It's really in a dilemma zone that you could either choose the smaller size vs cheaper yet more powerful of small form factor PC.
I think Raspberry Pi 4 is just enough for embedded PC. And many people just do not know about embedded PC :)
Imagine an UDOO cluster
Supercomputer 😂
Size, size, size, this is all about the size. It would be better if they added another USB-C port and implemented PD, so people can share their power brick for this cutie, you know, it's about size, one extra power brick killed the purpose.
The title said "The most powerful SBC ever"... But due to the absence of built-in RAM... I believe it's not an SBC.
GPU throttling likely due to the CPU getting SoC voltage priority. If you can up the SoC voltage try limiting the max CPU speed in Windows power management to 85%. This should free up some power for the APU. Good luck.
finally, looking for a nuc from amd, nvm changed my mind after pricing lol
Ahahaha
This is faster than my current gaming PC, on paper at least.
Do you think we'll see a jumping in gaming performance when the low GPU clocks are fixed, or is it actually running at 1100mhz now and just under-reporting?
Have you checked the Energy Options in Windows 10? Some systems had issues in the past when it was set to balanced or power saver. Be sure you have set it to High Performance and test again if the GPU is still performing weak.
I also heard that CPU and GPU might throttle down in an APU to stay inside the TDP limits.
Yes and I ever tried ultimate performance mode
The sticker shock is real 💀
That's gonna be my next console
Edit: damn, that's pricey. Let's see if the cost go down
Not cheap at all, but compared to a Lattepanda it's a great deal, way more powerful!
You know, temperatures are so imprecise to measure, it is more or less standard to write them down using one or two digits after the dot - at the max.
Even when you convert temps, because these small differences don't really matter.
For *less then 250 bucks* you have a Ryzen 2200G + 16Gb - 3000Mhz + B350 motherboard !
nice video! and great SBC, but how about the performance with productivity applications, let say, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, VMware, etc?
You know what, this is AMD showcasing how they able to create a small form factor gaming machine in the mean time. Vega are strong, but imagine if Navi would embed to them, BOOOM PS5 folks
You might look into modifying the Soft PowerPlay Tables. Might be able to get the GPU part of it running right that way.
This is a step in a great direction but not sure what the audience would be at this price point.
wait till your windows 10 starts rebooting itself in the middle of your project.
you can build a mini itx pc for 291 euro (brand new) and if you 418 you can even add a gtx 1050 ti
the specs are:
gigabyte b450m ds3h
2x 4GB 2666 MHz ram from g.skill
128 GB m.2 SSD
gigabyte pb500 (500W psu)
thermaltake versa h25 case
Try with reduced cpu max frequency in windows power options for gpu clocks.
Probably the TDP is set to 15W, it's possible to increase the TDP up to 25W for better performance: ruclips.net/video/Uc97rUs_OvY/видео.html
You are the best ETAprime
Do you have access to frequency, voltage and fan speed on Wattman? Maybe undervolting the GPU will help achieving higher clocks in it. And I believe on the latest drivers, Radeon Chill comes on by default, maybe that's what is keeping the frequency low.
dude i want to see this being the basis of something like the Switch. imagine this kind of perfomance (with windows 10) in a hand held.
GPD Win 2?
@@wafiwalid_ not as powerful as this board. and slap it in a box with a monitor, clamp it with one of those controllers meant to for an android phone, and boom.
@@fairplayer916 that's a bit bulky and heavy you will need a battery,a charging regulator,alot of wiring
,a microphone,a speaker and many more so it's not as portable as the GPD.
Thanks for the beautiful video. Please can this board be use for building Hackintosh?
looks like a cool build. I hope someone crams this into a psOne case and emulates PSX games
If you set the tdp to 25 watt the the gpu has not enogh power
One more cpu and gpu generation and the technology to make a handheld ps4 or xbox one will exist 🤯
It’s smaller than mini but aren’t we getting in to the size of sbc market that is going to be closer to a regular PC motherboard? Defeats the purpose? What do you think?
iGPU throttling could be cooling or power delivery. Try a beefier active cooler then higher wattage power adapter considering system board isn't limiting power input.
Looking forward to Atari VCS comparison which should be a competing product at a lower price point.
Loved the Video 1: Can the cpu be overclocked if you use liquid vmetal on the cpu with a custom cooler with better fan ?
just needs some more sata ports and would be great for a NAS
gpu clock low because CPU taking all the power, it used to happen on my ryzen laptop , i fixed it by reducing the power ,that cpu can use by 30% in window's power option. or just update the bios .
I would really be in the market for a ryzen 7640u motherboard with 2.5gbe lan.
I shit my pants when I saw that Unigene Heaven FPS.
Would like to see PCSX2 performance. If it runs that even at native I will be impressed.
Ryzen master that will let you boost the vega from the stock 400 which was the 2200g default stock clock on some older boards