Odyssey X86 Windows & Linux SBC

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @edwin3928ohd
    @edwin3928ohd 4 года назад +325

    600k subs! And I know if Christopher sees this he will pin it... Because he has always been and will always be interactive with the viewers here. long live this channel. I hereby award the Golden Mr. Scissors award for 600k!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +40

      Award gratefully accepted. :)

    •  4 года назад +9

      This channel pride computer chronicles tv show

    • @blamb42
      @blamb42 4 года назад +5

      @- While I accept that we as a community probably outgrew Computer Chronicles I still miss the show and Stewart Cheifet. I tried watching some old shows that I found but they were so out of date that it wasn't as interesting anymore.

    • @circuitsandcigars1278
      @circuitsandcigars1278 4 года назад +2

      @@blamb42 I was a devoted Computer Chronicles watcher. It was part of my youth as I was not outgoing and it made me feel connected to the world. I still remember the day when Gary Kildall died, it was like I lost someone close and couldn't help crying.

    • @SarkarMotion
      @SarkarMotion 4 года назад +2

      Great video as usual. I didn't even skip the ad at the end.
      I just wish they'd put 4 SATA ports and then make a box worth hot swap trays. It's already got dual hard line, so pf sense on it would be ideal, plus ftp would make it a great box.

  • @morpheusfreeman5209
    @morpheusfreeman5209 4 года назад +68

    I have been following this channel for years, and honestly all I see is passion, patience, determination, rigour and humility. I really appreciate Christopher Barnatt, he's a College professor I would of wanted to have, listening him talk is almost soothing, clear, detailed and straight to the point.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for your kind feedback. Very much appreciated.

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 4 года назад +1

      He has a higher calling (than college professor) - being an educator to the entire world thanks to YT video publishing platform

    • @StuffOffYouStuff
      @StuffOffYouStuff 4 года назад

      Agree! Only just found him today

    • @cubeflinger
      @cubeflinger 3 года назад

      reminds me of my electronics teacher at college. you never forget a great teacher.

  • @MrTruthandlove
    @MrTruthandlove 4 года назад +65

    I've seriously no need for one of these, but this video has made me want one :)

    • @immortalsofar5314
      @immortalsofar5314 4 года назад

      For me, it falls into a gap. I have a mini-ITX, Ryzen Linux machine for my desktop, numerous Rasperry Pis (Linux) machines and some Arduinos. Even if I replaced Windows with Linux, it would be too limited for a desktop and too power hungry and bloated for a mobile app. Maybe as a DIY laptop alternative?

    • @bryanvandyke
      @bryanvandyke 3 года назад

      Plex server right here saw someone else do that with this and seems like the perfect use case

    • @snehanshourya3850
      @snehanshourya3850 3 года назад

      @@immortalsofar5314 No main thing is the raspberry connector and co processor. Lot of DIY things are possible, not just laptop. Just using the board as pc is probably not the purpose of this thing, although perfectly doable.

    • @immortalsofar5314
      @immortalsofar5314 3 года назад

      @@snehanshourya3850 You got me wondering and I think I've got it. If I were building an embedded vision recognition system requiring complex functionality, this is probably what I would use. The Pi zero works fine for a backup/security camera but if the latency/framerate became a problem (say, in a self-driving system) then this would be the next step.

  • @NewAgeDIY
    @NewAgeDIY 4 года назад +3

    I believe this board will work out nicely for my Land Cruiser track vehicle project that I’m putting together for the 2021 Robotics project competition. It has all the features I need and it’s for more expandable and at a lower cost then my Alpha that I picked up a year ago.
    It’s getting exciting to see all the new SBC’s being designed for the maker community. Just think it was a only a few years ago that all we had was the Raspberry!
    Your review today covered a lot of Territory. Can’t wait to see this unit setup in its case. Thanks for today’s overview and I look forward to next Sunday video.

  • @beedslolkuntus2070
    @beedslolkuntus2070 4 года назад +4

    Your videos are SO SAME when I watched them back in 2014 when I was young! LOVE this kind of videos! Congrats on the 600K subs

  • @artbecker5618
    @artbecker5618 4 года назад +7

    Something that Christopher didn't mention was Seeed Studio's excellent reputation. While they offer a wide range of other manufacturer's products, they have their own line that is generally leading edge. They have a product wiki that is kept up to date, and they respond to customer inquiries. I've purchased dozens of their products over the years. They were one of the first to offer the Raspberry Pi 4 to the general public. And, before one of the usual annoying trolls makes a rude remark, no, I am not connected with them, other than being a satisfied customer.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      This is very true -- and Seeed also have excellent support for the Odyssey board. See the links in the video description.

  • @tubegor
    @tubegor 4 года назад +36

    At around 2 a.m. one often looks at the watch for the expectation, the highlight of Sunday (EC) is about to come.

  • @dimensionalfuse1810
    @dimensionalfuse1810 4 года назад +3

    Chris, IMO you are RUclips’s best authority for SBC’s. Thanks!

  • @kitkats2391
    @kitkats2391 4 года назад +1

    You sir -- i appreciate your enthusiasm and explanations. i'm a systems and network administrator yet i still love watching your videos, having learned more than a few things from them. Thank you for your work!

  • @RoboNuggie
    @RoboNuggie 4 года назад +85

    This would be perfect as a PfSense or FreeNAS low powered box....
    I'm a FreeBSD only user, so looking forward to your FreeNAS video.
    Thank you for this Christopher....

    • @MrNeocortex
      @MrNeocortex 4 года назад +10

      When he confirmed that they were both Intel NICs pfSense was my first thought. I was half expecting one to me Intel and the other Realtek. Would still make it suitable for something like Untangle though.

    • @augurseer
      @augurseer 4 года назад +3

      Same thoughts lads. I got wind of those nic and cpu and went PFsense in a heart best.

    • @MrNeocortex
      @MrNeocortex 4 года назад +4

      That CPU support AES-NI. Although 2.5 will no longer require it, having hardware encryption helps.

    • @dbeko07
      @dbeko07 4 года назад

      @@MrNeocortex I've been using Untangle for three years now. Using a protectli like mini PC with four Intel NICs.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 4 года назад +4

      Yeah, but I think the $200 range is a bit much even if it is for a nice router, I personally like the ~$100 atom PCs/SBCs using vlans.
      ruclips.net/video/z59_MWWPL-Q/видео.html
      It's quite a bit of extra setup but instead of a managed switch you can find old routers for about $20, install dd-wrt or openwrt, most support vlans so you can use it as a managed switch, plus it also gives you an additional wireless AP without having to set one up in pfsense.

  • @gwmattos
    @gwmattos 4 года назад +1

    Bravo, with all of the stuff happening around the world this little work horse was a breath of fresh air. Yesterday, SPACE X and NASA FALCON 9 and today a nice Sunday Lesson. Thank you.

  • @perrymcclusky4695
    @perrymcclusky4695 4 года назад +4

    The price is impressive for a Windows based PC. Looking forward to seeing the case. It does have a lot of features. Looking forward to your next video!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      Greetings Perry.

    • @perrymcclusky4695
      @perrymcclusky4695 4 года назад

      ExplainingComputers Always wonderful to be greeted by you! May Stanley the Knife and Mr. Scissors keep you safe from that pesky Coronavirus!

  • @hermancohen4017
    @hermancohen4017 4 года назад

    I have been following this channel. I appreciate Christopher Barnatt, for the fact that he is, clear by slow talking, detailed and straight to the point. Thanks Christopher, and please continue to bring us the news and projects of the computing world.

  • @IgabodDobagi
    @IgabodDobagi 4 года назад +38

    We are getting closer to the day when an sbc can replace a standard desktop computer. Still not quite there yet, gaming on this thing would be a nightmare. But we are getting closer and closer all the time. I'd like to see one with at least a low end gpu integrated so you can play older games with good graphics. Or one with a pcie slot so you can plug a separate gpu in. But that's probably a few generations away still.

    • @cgraham6
      @cgraham6 4 года назад +1

      This board has a USB type-c port, so I wonder if it could utilize an external GPU? I don't see why not, but almost any modern GPU would cause a CPU bottleneck with the quad-core this thing uses. A full x16 PCIe slot would make for a mighty sizeable SBC (plus, it technically wouldn't be an SBC anymore with a discrete GPU installed, but that's just me being nitpicky).

    • @RichardiOS275
      @RichardiOS275 4 года назад

      @@cgraham6 I'm pretty sure that connector only has power, usb 3.1, and Dp 1.2
      you are unable to utilise an eGPU if the USB C connector itself don't have at least Thunderbolt 2.0

    • @darkfur18
      @darkfur18 4 года назад +6

      @@cgraham6 you can actually connect a GPU to the NVME slot, since it's pci-e 4x. It's not a full 16x slot, but unless you've got a top of the line GPU, that many lanes are unnecessary and, in fact, the CPU would probably bottleneck before the 4x slot does. So you could hook like a 1050 or something to it with an adapter

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 4 года назад +2

      I mean we're pretty much already there, since most people generally speaking just use a PC for watching videos/social media/email/documents that sort of thing, then this is plenty good enough to do those sorts of things, for high-end activities like gaming, 3D modeling, video production, etc... I highly doubt an SBC will ever replace a full-blown desktop, good cooling alone can be larger than some of these boards.

    • @vasilispapas482
      @vasilispapas482 4 года назад

      @@cgraham6 ATTENTION!: INTEL J4105 have only 6 (six)PCI-e LANES GEN 2 and 4(four) of these are used from NVM-e (Gen2X4).the other 2(two) lanes are used for SATA , USB and LAN conectors.So,i think that there is no way to conect any graphics card on this SBC, exept if You use a NVM-e to PCI-e andaptor (from mining hardwear) but again you will have very poor results because of Gen2X4 LANES!

  • @TheProjectOverload
    @TheProjectOverload 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for showing the current x86 side of SBC market - Love the variety and content on your channel - Congrats on 600k!

  • @SomeNot
    @SomeNot 4 года назад +8

    Keep up the great content. You’re nearly at 600k!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      Thanks -- and the subs are so close to 600K. To be precise, 27 to go! :)

  • @bradrandolph389
    @bradrandolph389 3 года назад +1

    Hey Chris, great video series on SBCs! I've recently purchased an Odyssey X86J4125 (with the blue case, very snazzy!) and am very impressed with its capability. I'm using WD Black NVMe sticks for the main storage with great performance. I chose to get two NVMe sticks, one for Windows 10 Pro and one for Linux (specifically Ubuntu Studio). So far I'm very please with this platform. Thanks for introducing me to SBCs and Seeed. I watch every new video as a regular Sunday event.

  • @augurseer
    @augurseer 4 года назад +10

    X86. Dual nic. Nvme. That has some PFsense potential. Thanks Chris!!!!

  • @rovertron
    @rovertron 4 года назад +1

    Great informative video, as always. I need a SBC in my life, and after looking at this, and your review of 8 SBC X86 video, I decided that the Seeed Odyssey was the one for me. Thank you very much.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      The Odyssey is a great board -- one of the best SBCs I have ever used. It just works!

    • @rovertron
      @rovertron 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers Indeed. I look forward to receiving it :) I’ve also ordered a 1TB WD M.2 PCIe card, but I’m stuck on the M.2 cellular module card as I do not know any of the brands that come up in searches. Do you know of the best one? Like yourself, I am in the UK. Any advise would be gratefully received on this one and then I’ll leave you in peace! Thanks.

  • @smartassist9700
    @smartassist9700 4 года назад +5

    Sir Christopher, A warm greeting to you this beautiful Sunday from my almost wilderness home “in the city”. I have 100 hectares to my left and 75 hectares to the front of property. Many wild animals visit daily. I sit on front porch to greet them as they start their day forging for their breakfast.
    Then I watch your video.
    Nothing like a cup of “JOE” watching animals AND CATCHING YOUR VIDEO! Excellent video! I am impressed with pricing provided the few key items are included such as power cord, WiFi antenna and data wires!
    Other SBC companies cost starts lower but once you buy the core requirements that adds $75.00 average!
    I will trek to their site this morning , EAGERLY to check it out!
    FOR EVERY FOLLOWER AND YOU, STAY SAFE FROM VIRUS AND ENJOY YOUR WEEK AT HOME WITH FAMILY!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      Thanks for this -- and it sounds like are in a good location right now.

    • @smartassist9700
      @smartassist9700 4 года назад

      I honestly need a DONATION to buy feed for the wild animals to keep them coming to my place.squirrels and chipmunks and deer eat the bird feed. I have bag of corn for deer and salt block. Squirrels have corn on Cobb dried, raccoons are in everything. I cannot afford full summer feeding . Perhaps I set up web cam and ask for donations for animals to be viewed around the world.
      I have made a wild black bear a friend years ago. I earn their trust easily.
      Care to ask viewers if they will be interested in nature and donate small amount for food?
      I have paypal account.

  • @resrussia
    @resrussia 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for an excellent video on the Odyssey x86 SBC. I am looking forward to your video using the board as a NAS using Free NAS. Keep up the good work!

  • @hans-joachimschroder5469
    @hans-joachimschroder5469 4 года назад

    Of course your channel is watched in Germany as well. I´ve seen lots and lots of your videos not only on SBCs but also on other topics. Its great fun to listen to you and I enjoy it very, very much. Your humor and dedication is fabulous. Thank you for this juwel box .

  • @TeamUnpro
    @TeamUnpro 4 года назад +6

    Nevermind the graphics performance, but my gosh. This thing would be a node server BEAST.

  • @WalterW
    @WalterW 4 года назад +2

    I'm always looking for a great SBC that can run Windows 10. This has been on my radar so thanks for the review.

  • @IraQNid
    @IraQNid 4 года назад +6

    Skip the eMMC storage, attach a SATA HDD for access to 10+ TB storage, use the 2 SSD slots for faster boots and what not. Now you've got access to your music, movies, games, and favorite fractal software. Yay :)
    With a PC this small it could take the place of my WD TV Live Hub when it stops working. That fan was barely audible. This could be used as a media kiosk, for printing .PDFs on demand such as cross stitch e-books, regular books, magazines, etc. For selecting video and audio entertainment for display on a larger 4K UHD+ monitor or video projector / video wall array. Lots of cool uses for a small form factor PC. Useful in craft stores, libraries, schools, night clubs, resorts, at home, in lobbies or waiting rooms, senior living communities, on-demand movie theaters, etc.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +3

      You clearly appreciate the potential! :)

    • @boratsagdiyev1586
      @boratsagdiyev1586 4 года назад

      True Ive made a NAS on the internal storage. One powerloss and i could reformst my entire OS vecause of corrupted boot drive. Use an external drive for good reasons!

  • @lilbandit1979
    @lilbandit1979 4 года назад +1

    This channel is one of the best on RUclips! Thanks for all your hard work Chris

  • @ChrisShadowens
    @ChrisShadowens 4 года назад +23

    Woah there, that was definitely a job for Mr Scissors or Stanley the Knife! Poor fellas were denied screen time.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +16

      They will return. In fact, they were very close to being on camera. While making this, I was also shooting a "behind the scenes" video -- in which they appear -- for my 300th episode in a few weeks time. So you will get to see that they were in waiting! :)

    • @albion1949
      @albion1949 4 года назад +12

      They're probably self-isolating.

    • @billfield8300
      @billfield8300 4 года назад +6

      Not to worry... Their agent got them contracts that include monetary compensation for being referenced in the video.

    • @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
      @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic 4 года назад +2

      I guess they aren't essential workers. :(

    • @ChrisShadowens
      @ChrisShadowens 4 года назад

      @@ExplainingComputers Excellent! I'm looking forward to seeing what goes on with my favorite RUclips utility-workers on the other side of the camera.

  • @eddiehughes2136
    @eddiehughes2136 3 года назад +1

    I liked this review of the Odyssey. I did buy one of these a couple months ago (the activated version). It was very responsive and I was pretty happy with it for a while. Unfortunately it failed in my stress tests (it no longer boots). The failure was the eMMC flash drive, as I was able to get into bios to confirm. I have not attempted to use the other bootable drives, but that is one of the strengths of this computer. The various boot options give you redundancy, which is not offered in the standard off-the-shelf, low-cost laptops. Even with this failure, this is a very good option for an SBC.

  • @ScottMaday
    @ScottMaday 4 года назад +9

    The instant I read the title I started thinking of all sorts of projects I could use this for (since unfortunately we haven’t reached the point where x86 and ARM software could be considered cross compatible)

    • @pinnaclesystemsgroup6472
      @pinnaclesystemsgroup6472 4 года назад

      When will the SBC board builders get that X86 ISA has become outdated by ARM and RISC-V

  • @rlegene
    @rlegene 4 года назад +1

    It is great to see new product reviews like these, thank you. In the future, could you include information about power consumption? That is rather interesting for small devices.

  • @jeremypharris-ward8356
    @jeremypharris-ward8356 4 года назад +8

    You can change the blurr effect in the Settings, Personalisation, Colours, under transparency effects set to Off.

  • @giftmukupe1
    @giftmukupe1 4 года назад +1

    Your channel made me pass my A+ certification for its clear explanation of tech

  • @elviraeloramilosic9813
    @elviraeloramilosic9813 4 года назад +3

    Amazing SBC!
    Truly impressive!
    I’m thinking to get one... 🤔
    Hello Chris 👋🏻
    Excellent video! Excellent SBC!
    Looking forward for FreeNAS!
    Stay safe and well!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      Greetings Elvira. I hope that you are keeping well. This really is a very nice board -- probably the best x86 SBC I've ever looked at. Everything just works as it should.

    • @awomandoesnothaveapenis
      @awomandoesnothaveapenis 4 года назад +1

      Elvira Elora Milosic I really think you need one. Honestly you do and you know it 🤪

    • @elviraeloramilosic9813
      @elviraeloramilosic9813 4 года назад +1

      Rob M
      It is excellent SBC to experiment. Maybe for my third NAS.

    • @awomandoesnothaveapenis
      @awomandoesnothaveapenis 4 года назад +1

      Elvira Elora Milosic I’m thinking cnc controller, paired with some MESA hardware via Ethernet.
      But what to do with the existing pc running the Mill atm ?

    • @elviraeloramilosic9813
      @elviraeloramilosic9813 4 года назад

      Rob M
      Indeed,
      It is to great SBC to be just a NAS. 👍🏻

  • @Escarlatine
    @Escarlatine 4 года назад +1

    Your reviews are quite enjoyable, detailed and lighthearted. Thank you good sir.

  • @jeffk5724
    @jeffk5724 4 года назад +31

    Someone had their head straight when designing this one. I would be more interested with 16GB of RAM. I think it would run better.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +5

      I agree -- the design is very solid.

    • @Ts6451
      @Ts6451 4 года назад +8

      True, a bit more memory would probably be useful, especially for Windows 10, but I believe that 8GB is the max the J4105 can address.

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад +5

      @@Ts6451 the odroid H2 can have up to 32gb of ram, same CPU used.

    • @andyshtroymish4997
      @andyshtroymish4997 4 года назад +1

      It really needs dual channel. Low speed CPUs usually win the most of it. I doubt it is affordable though - it usually rises expenses.

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад +1

      @@andyshtroymish4997 the odroid H2 uses same intel chip, it is cheaper and takes two ddr4 sodimm ram slots.

  • @rohithvishaal
    @rohithvishaal 3 года назад +1

    This is a very well put video and everything is explained with precision. THANKS A LOT FOR THIS!

  • @RichardiOS275
    @RichardiOS275 4 года назад +7

    I'm really surprised by this board, for the performance and the connectivity, it's reasonably priced
    can't wait for the future of x86 SBCs

  • @kirm8137
    @kirm8137 4 года назад

    A Really thorough and well done review. Finally! You know, this is the first video I've watched on this little computer where the NIC manufacturers were mentioned (Intel). Thanks so much. It helped me decide that it is a contender for a firewall project. And you also explained when you get the heat sink and when you don't Very, very clear. The manufacturer should be offering you funding, to be honest, as you are helping people decide if this is a "fit" for what they want to do.

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol 4 года назад +6

    I'd love a version with a 10 watt quad core, 8 thread Zen 2 processor. They just need to release something with a lower voltage, 2ghz base and 3ghz boost clock, and we will be in a new era of mini computers.

    • @boofmcgoof1534
      @boofmcgoof1534 4 года назад

      Is it really still an SBC,if it's the physical size of two separate boards & take as much juice to chooch as such ? lol

  • @johnhealy9231
    @johnhealy9231 4 года назад

    Love this program,the simple way things are explained ,you can take it on board, having little knowledge on computer and components I’ve learned the basics.thank you Chris 👍

  • @charleschapman2428
    @charleschapman2428 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the info, I would get the one less windows and just download the Home version and save the $40 dollars. A few months back I purchased a Beelink X45 mini computer with the same XJ4105 processor and 256 gig of storage for around the same price. I know it doesn't have the performance capability of the Odyssey but I'm very happy with it. Looking forward to seeing the video with the case.

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад

      I have a Beelink x45, it works very well, very quiet little thing, mine was £135, a great value item.

  • @kennyj4366
    @kennyj4366 4 года назад +1

    This is very nice, I'm looking forward to your next post about this product. Thank you for sharing. 👍

  • @daveseddon5227
    @daveseddon5227 4 года назад +3

    OK - I don't need one of these and I'm trying to talk myself out of buying one!
    Great video Christopher, thank you. 🙃

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross 4 года назад +1

    Looks like a really fine addition among SBC boards on which to run MAME emulator - retro computing, of course, being the optimal use of such new hardware. Yeah, nothing more satisfying than running ancient software on late model hardware. Get the attractive case and retro compute in very nice style!

  • @tonyelsom6382
    @tonyelsom6382 4 года назад +6

    Very cool, looks like my waiting for a near perfect SBC is paying off..The Odyssey X86 is almost there, but my trusty old laptop is still faster with a duo 1.5ghz cpu. Nevertheless, I'm keeping a close eye on SBC progress. If I buy one, I'll go for the board only, since WinX is NOT an option for me. Great video as usual, thanks Chris, keep it safe there in the UK. 👍 🆒

    • @JoeLinux2000
      @JoeLinux2000 4 года назад +2

      Celeron is not an option for me, and I only run Linux so anything to do with Windows is a total waste of time and energy.

  • @silviocesarsilvaoliveira
    @silviocesarsilvaoliveira 4 года назад +2

    Congratulations Christopher for one more cool video, I really really like your videos because I love the computer science area!!! Congratulations one more time!!!

  • @bluehornet6752
    @bluehornet6752 4 года назад +3

    Very cool SBC! I would love to see you start to include power usage stats in your evaluations of these SBCs, Christopher. This board looks to be an awesome choice for something like an underwater UAV, but that means you'd likely need to power the thing via an umbilical...simply because (I suspect) the power requirements are significant. I'll have to research it. Great video though!

    • @bluehornet6752
      @bluehornet6752 4 года назад

      Well, I just ordered one of the 64gb eMMC versions...without Windows. I also ordered the case, but their site indicated it will take a bit longer to get, which is fine. But I'll evaluate the power use requirements and report back here once I do. I guess there's a possibility that this SBC could be powered by battery, but with this CPU and a cooling fan, it would seem that the battery life wouldn't be terribly long. That said though, and for something like an underwater UAV, this likely wouldn't be a problem--as the thruster motors would probably require power greater than that feasible for a battery pack. So in other words, as long as you're using a an umbilical tether for powering your thruster motors anyway, then using it to also power the SBC seems like a freebie.
      So Seeed Studio should be happy with you CB...you sold one of these SBCs for them!

    • @bluehornet6752
      @bluehornet6752 4 года назад

      Got my board two days ago, and it seems pretty nice. However the implementation of the on-board Arduino doesn't seem quite correct. For instance, you must use the SerialUSB object (not "Serial") as the default serial port object. That's the one that will show you output on the Arduino IDE's serial monitor. So do it like this:
      SerialUSB.println("foo");
      The other serial port is on pins 1 & 3 of the 28-pin header, but it is Serial1...and not Serial1USB or SerialUSB1. But there are two other UART pins, on a 4-pin header next to the Arduino's 28-pin header. I have NO idea what these do. There's a thread about this on the Seeed Studios forum, and I've posted some screen shots I took of using a Logic Analyzer to probe that bus. There's a weird (mostly) synchronous clock-like signal on the Tx line from that pin, but no matter what I try I cannot get any sort of output to appear on that line. And there's apparently no documentation available to tell us what that 4-pin header is for--and the Seeed Studios folks participating in thread on their forum, haven't really given us any information as to how to use those pins.
      So all-in-all, although the board is pretty nice on paper, there are some things that aren't quite right just yet. Hopefully it will get fixed however, because the board has a TON of potential.

    • @bluehornet6752
      @bluehornet6752 4 года назад

      It turns out that the instructions on the Seeed Studios wiki page were out-of-date for this product. The pin-out diagram was also incorrect for the little 4-pin header next to the 28-pin SAMD21 "Arduino" header. Myself and another US user of this board have been working with one of the Seeed developers, and these things have improved significantly. The pin-out diagram has been fixed, and the instructions updated for loading the correct support library into the Arduino IDE...so things are working much better now. I've even been able to start working with the i2c buses on both the 40- and 28-pin headers.
      Thus far I can say that although the documentation issue(s) has been a bit frustrating, things are definitely improving. Seeed Studios has been fairly receptive to critique on the documentation--and has made changes as needed to their on-line "Getting Started" wiki. There still needs to be more documentation, but the forum threads are starting to grow in number--and the incredible potential of this board should make it extremely attractive for people doing ROV or robotics projects.

  • @rolfsinkgraven
    @rolfsinkgraven 4 года назад +2

    This could on my bucket list very soon.

  • @odisclemons9700
    @odisclemons9700 4 года назад +152

    I love the "Compatible with Linux" label. That's like saying this creature is compatible with oxygen.

    • @SmileyJack.
      @SmileyJack. 4 года назад +11

      you're being delusional. For example Linux is not compatible with some CPUs.

    • @SmileyJack.
      @SmileyJack. 4 года назад +9

      and oxygen is toxic if you don't now

    • @SmileyJack.
      @SmileyJack. 4 года назад +4

      can't stand stupidity

    • @odisclemons9700
      @odisclemons9700 4 года назад +2

      @Max Raider yeah that's exactly what I wanted ever since I found out pfsense didnt have an ARM version. I wanted to put it on the Pi but I'll look into this instead.

    • @karlscheel3500
      @karlscheel3500 4 года назад +18

      @@SmileyJack. Really? Which CPUs cannot run Linux? Is this applicable to all Linux distros, or just a few? Of course, you cannot run a 64-bit Linux kernel on a 32-bit CPU! But AFAIK, Linux can be run on just about _anything,_ including Macs.
      I personally, was able to run a 64-bit Linux kernel (Kubuntu 14.04) on my old iMac 5,1 (although it ran in emulated-BIOS/CSM-mode, not EFI).
      Ironically, this iMac model could only run a 32-bit OS X kernel (i.e., up to _Lion_ ), _even though it had a 64-bit CPU,_ because it only had a *32-bit EFI.* That design is just _one example_ of how Apple *screws* their customers! I'm glad I didn't purchase it new.

  • @rhontis
    @rhontis 4 года назад

    Definitely a great video to watch this Monday while working from home

  • @epretorious
    @epretorious 4 года назад +13

    "The state of the World being what it is..."
    LoL, Chris - Thanks for the breath of fresh air!

  • @chriholt
    @chriholt 4 года назад

    Very impressive board, and I’m pleasantly surprised at the price point! Also, big congratulations on your well-deserved 600k subscriber milestone!

  • @dbeko07
    @dbeko07 4 года назад +5

    I've been using FreeNAS for a few years now and love it. I'm thinking that this SBC would make a great firewall running PFSense, OpnSense or Untangle.

    • @ISellSigals
      @ISellSigals 4 года назад

      I agree.. get snort running on it too

  • @srtcsb
    @srtcsb 4 года назад +1

    This SBC sounds like a winner alright. I'd like to see tests of both the Arduino and RPi functionality on this board to make sure they work as expected. If those do work, this board is indeed worth the price to say the least (and the possibilities as a Nuc, video streamer, NAS, ... Wow! ). Thanks for another great video Chris.

  • @polymorphism1966
    @polymorphism1966 4 года назад +3

    It’s Sunday Love EC!!!!

  • @homemixer
    @homemixer 4 года назад +2

    Congratulations Chris!! You the man!! 🙋🎂🎉

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 4 года назад +5

    Your "terrible" Internet connection is still better than what mine has been for more than a decade... 7/1 Mb/s over here.

    • @RichardiOS275
      @RichardiOS275 4 года назад +3

      mine was a quarter megabit per second, I can barely stream videos in 144p

    • @nunya___
      @nunya___ 4 года назад +1

      🛰 Starlink coming soon...I hope. 🤞

  • @zebop917
    @zebop917 4 года назад

    A new Explaining Computers video means two things now. First there’s the usual 20 min or so of interesting stuff and second the realization that we’re another week through lockdown.

  • @raghavendraraghu4988
    @raghavendraraghu4988 4 года назад +3

    He explanes clean plane and even the product manufacturers can't do

    • @another3997
      @another3997 4 года назад

      He certainly does. 😀 It's an easy mistake to make, but just to let you know it's "explains" and "plain", whereas "plane" is, for example, an aircraft (aeroplane) or a type of woodworking tool. 👍

    • @IMRANKHAN-we9un
      @IMRANKHAN-we9un 4 года назад

      Why are you repeating this funny comment ?? You should take ENGLISH GRAMMAR tution!!!! LOL 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @Dastivus
    @Dastivus 4 года назад +1

    Hi Christopher! Great video and looking forward to your FreeNAS video! Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy.

  • @chatarraymas7258
    @chatarraymas7258 4 года назад +16

    great idea this board, but the price is high, really high. An ITX board with a basic CPU do more and it's cheaper....i cannot find the use to this

    • @mbvalency
      @mbvalency 4 года назад +2

      It does not compete on this level.
      An ITX Board with a basic CPU probably consumes more power and takes up more space.
      Standard Mainboards do not have GPIO pins and most of them do not include Wifi or two Gigabit LAN ports.
      So this board is just not made for the average PC User. And for the given features I think it is not too expensive.
      Would I personally buy it? No - but that is my answer to most IT products on the market.

    • @Dude_Slick
      @Dude_Slick 4 года назад

      I agree. Sure it has a small footprint, but is that going to be reason enough to spend that kind of cash? Not for me. I think it would fill some needs, like if I wanted to condense my CNC controller to one unit rather than having a separate desktop. But I have the room, and it works for me so no need to fork out the money. Maybe at like $75, but no higher. At least for me.

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 4 года назад

      It's a nicer rig than Intel NUCs

    • @thewatcher5271
      @thewatcher5271 4 года назад +1

      Hey Jose', I Think You're Kind Of Missing The Point, For Me It's Kind Of Like A Boner, I Don't "Need" One But I Just Know That I Want One!

  • @ericjohndluhos5480
    @ericjohndluhos5480 4 года назад

    This is an excellent video! What a fine demonstration of this beautiful, well designed x86 SBC. The presentation is so superbly nformative that I really can't say enough about how tmuch of a pleasure this has been for me to watch. Really so well done with great enthusiasm, care and attenton to detail. You sold me on it. Thank you so very much!

  • @cbm80amiga
    @cbm80amiga 4 года назад +3

    Prices for this SBC are ridiculous :( Recently I bought Chuwi HeroBox (N4100/8GB/180GB SSD/Win10) for $180. It works perfectly well in dual monitor setup. I have test/teardown on my channel.

  • @cristianestrada6424
    @cristianestrada6424 4 года назад +2

    Another great sunday with EC new video! Grettings from Mexico City!

  • @5argetech56
    @5argetech56 4 года назад +3

    Off Topic:
    Please be safe and do not take any chances...
    I just lost my brother in Seattle to Covid-19.... He was 58 and had COPD
    I can't even go out there... Quarantined :(

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      I'm very sorry to hear about your brother. I hope that everybody here stays safe and follows whatever lockdown or other social distancing measures are in place in your country to prevent the spread. These are dark times.

    • @5argetech56
      @5argetech56 4 года назад +2

      @@ExplainingComputers Thank you! I appreciate you saying that...

  • @basroos_snafu
    @basroos_snafu 4 года назад +1

    In one word: wow! I do agree with every comparison and conclusion you've made about this SBC. It seems to be so versatile, I'd wish to own multiple for different purposes. Thanks for the effort Explaining another (SB)Computer !

  • @Spriggen1337
    @Spriggen1337 4 года назад +4

    im surprised these bigger sbc boards dont come equipped with a PCIE slot 8/16x or atleast an option to swap the GPIO and arduino for a PCIE slot

    • @brunesi
      @brunesi 4 года назад

      I think it would require another Intel bridge chip, is that correct? If so, the manufacturer had to cut corners in order to target a thinner audience, struggling to pull out some profit, whilst providing a considerable lower price tag in this tier.

    • @Ts6451
      @Ts6451 4 года назад +1

      The Celeron J4105 only has 6 PCIe v2 lanes, so it can't really drive 16x or 8x

    • @Spriggen1337
      @Spriggen1337 4 года назад

      @@brunesi maybe but they could also take off the arduino controller and GPIO connector (and deduct the cost from other options) to replace with a chipset and PCIE slot i wouldnt mind paying extra or something like this since i dont really use GPIO or arduino i use things like Pi for watching media in a low power ormat instead o switching on my main computer a PCIE slot would give it more expandability functionality

    • @Spriggen1337
      @Spriggen1337 4 года назад

      @@Ts6451 didnt think of that! but isnt there some mobile ryzen chips that can do it?

    • @brunesi
      @brunesi 4 года назад

      @@Spriggen1337 I see your point no doubt. Hence my comment on 'thinner audience'. The manufacturer has a razor blade narrow roadmap in order to avoid cheaper arm based SBCs and mainstream low cost x86 boards. They search for a magic balance between differentiation and price target. It's a warfare level tough market.

  • @PS_Tube
    @PS_Tube 4 года назад +1

    Another interesting EC day. Congratulations on crossing 600k.

  • @JohnDoe-tm2sc
    @JohnDoe-tm2sc 4 года назад +3

    Normal PC, smaller package. Still CPU seems to be a bit weak, comparing to, for example, very old Thinkpad T400. Nice video though. Thanks.

    • @Rico_G
      @Rico_G 4 года назад +1

      Right! I use a small ThinkPad X201 with an i5 for projects which cost me all of $33 USD. No USB3.0 but does have expresscard slot so can be added.

  • @HKey_Root
    @HKey_Root 4 года назад +1

    Another gem. Thank you sir. My bank balance is being depleted rapidly. Very much looking forward to the FreeNAS video !!!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      Thanks. That video is now in production. It runs well on this board.

  • @rpl1
    @rpl1 4 года назад +5

    Why there are 3 sata power supply ports, but only 1 sata data port?

    • @richards7909
      @richards7909 4 года назад

      I was confused by that too but I thought it was just me missing something.

    • @turbinia
      @turbinia 4 года назад +1

      you can add 2 more sata ports with one of the m.2 slots

  • @4.0.4
    @4.0.4 4 года назад +1

    X86J4105 is such a catchy name too, it just rolls off the tongue!

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      I have to agree. I personally would not have included the CPU model in the name. "Odyssey X86" would be clearer.

  • @ryanzmuda3167
    @ryanzmuda3167 4 года назад +3

    So do you need to install a power button if so do they cone with the cases. Is is fully 64 bit.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад

      It is 64 bit -- Intel CPU specs here: ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/128989/intel-celeron-j4105-processor-4m-cache-up-to-2-50-ghz.html Looking at the case on the website, I think that it works with the power button already on the board. But if you made your own enclosure -- or fitted it in a robot or soemthing like that -- they you could connect a power button on leads to the header as required.

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 4 года назад +1

    Very enjoyable, thanks, and congratulations on the 600k subs. Wow! I think I began watching at 1253 mark and therefore, surely, significantly wiser?

  • @TEchWIse2203
    @TEchWIse2203 4 года назад +7

    Hello Chris how are you coping in quarantine

  • @RYBAT
    @RYBAT 4 года назад +1

    Informative Review, as Always... Thanks Christopher

  • @aaronrennyvargheseOriginal
    @aaronrennyvargheseOriginal 4 года назад +13

    No! 18 minutes late!

  • @dominicsworkshop
    @dominicsworkshop 4 года назад +3

    I love all your videos really good job

  • @williamrutter3619
    @williamrutter3619 4 года назад +3

    Same CPU in odroid H2, how does it compare.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      The Odroid has an extra SATA port (2 rather than 1), but only one M.2 slot, and you have to add you own RAM (which is both a plus and a minus).

    • @williamrutter3619
      @williamrutter3619 4 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers sodimm ddr4 ram slots are a cheaper than they were, I bought two 4gb 2600 for £16, that was at cex.

    • @iflnr978
      @iflnr978 4 года назад +1

      the H2 has been out of stock so much, maybe now it will be in stock. hopefully this will be in stock too

    • @jeremyxiao2668
      @jeremyxiao2668 4 года назад

      They have made a comparison table www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2020/04/29/odyssey-x86-and-odriod-h2-comparison/

  • @hernanruiz756
    @hernanruiz756 4 года назад +2

    I love SBCs, they always make me think "wow imagine all the cool applications of this"

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 4 года назад +11

    It's a dang shame you have to pay for the emmc version with Windows to get the fan/heatsink included, and for me that's a big turnoff. I'd gladly pay an extra $10 to get the fan/heatsink included, and not pay for windows.

    • @v2joecr
      @v2joecr 4 года назад +1

      I was looking on mouser & a 64 GB eMMC with a quantity of one starts at $30.48. So to me adding $30 for eMMC & a heat sink with fan seams reasonable.

  • @ezekielrobinson9139
    @ezekielrobinson9139 4 года назад +1

    Another great video. Thank you. I learn so much from you and this channel. Single board computers are so cool! This single board computer looks awesome! Price range for everything is reasonable. Thanks again good sir for another cool informative display of new tech and your knowledge covering it.

  • @Yrouel86
    @Yrouel86 4 года назад +3

    I'm thinking this could make for a very compact Hackintosh. I wonder how's the support tho

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      May well be possible given an Intel CPU, graphics and controllers.

    • @mohamadyusoff9091
      @mohamadyusoff9091 4 года назад +1

      not possible due to the GPU. It is cheaper to buy an elitebook from ebay for less than 100 and install catalina www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/ftdbfq/mac_os_catalina_success_on_hp_elitebook_8570p/

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 4 года назад

      @@mohamadyusoff9091 prob more efficient too, power and performance wise?

  • @BagusSumanjaya
    @BagusSumanjaya 4 года назад

    I was impressed with seeed recomputer. so I have see other video but I can't understand the review, its better to see yours Mr. Barnatt, thank you again, and I will wait for free NAS videos, cheers

  • @Tntdruid
    @Tntdruid 4 года назад +3

    Is there any SMC whit AMD Ryzen?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      Yes, the UDOO Bolt (well, almost an SBC, the RAM is socketed): ruclips.net/video/8DINmS5YBD4/видео.html

  • @Jacob6853
    @Jacob6853 4 года назад

    Thanks Chris for this great video! Stay well!

  • @anshul4589
    @anshul4589 4 года назад +3

    Chris, did you upload the video 1 hour early today? I was so prepared to comment first and win the gold medal but the video has been already up for an hour.

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      I think this has to do with daylight saving clock changes. Here in the UK we moved to British Summer Time (GMT +1) last weekend.

    • @anshul4589
      @anshul4589 4 года назад +1

      @@ExplainingComputers Nevermind, I will try again next week.

  • @jameswelch2850
    @jameswelch2850 4 года назад

    excellent video as per usual. Some great videos in the past month.

  • @25hztolife86
    @25hztolife86 4 года назад +3

    No anti-static bag on the board? Would this not cause an issue?

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      No, no antistatic bag. A little surprising as you suggest. But Raspberry Pis come without them too now.

    • @SeersantLoom
      @SeersantLoom 4 года назад

      Maybe the black packing paper has antistatic properties?

  • @GMLSX
    @GMLSX 4 года назад +1

    Congratulations to reaching 600000 subscribers. (Only noticed it b/c the number looks so uncommonly uniform)

  • @whickervision742
    @whickervision742 4 года назад +7

    "Install windows 10 home instead". *Hold on there buddy.* Ever hear of UWF? Unified Write Filter protects against mass storage corruption due to unplanned loss of power (or tampering if used as kiosk).
    Please take a look at how to enable UWF from the Microsoft website. You typically configure the computer with installs and whatnot. Then go enable the protection and reboot.
    UWF will also help with not saving all the temp and log files to eMMC, prolonging its service life.

  • @danmanx2
    @danmanx2 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video, Christopher. I might buy one of these for my parents as a simple desktop computer. As long as the USB works for a printer and a display for quilting sites, light youtube, this should suit them fine!

  • @Marceloalvesgodinho
    @Marceloalvesgodinho 4 года назад +3

    Top awesome ...

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +1

      The Odyssey really is an excellent board -- probably the best x86 SBC I've ever used.

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 4 года назад

    Many thanks for the video, Christopher! Stay safe!

  • @alvimuka1853
    @alvimuka1853 4 года назад +4

    A great thing to do would be spending a week with this sbc and comparing it to the latte panda and the raspberry pi

  • @capritsuno2885
    @capritsuno2885 4 года назад +2

    Now my Sunday is complete!

  • @antonsurviyanto5896
    @antonsurviyanto5896 4 года назад +3

    32 bit or 64 bit architecture? I'm confussed

  • @blackterminal
    @blackterminal 4 года назад

    Thank you for making and sharing this video. I enjoyed it

  • @jeroeneijer
    @jeroeneijer 4 года назад +3

    Dear Sir,
    I'm a teacher in physic on a high school. The computer at my workplace is horrible. The chroombooks already has been bricked twice....
    At home I'm looking at the moment for a alternitive for my desktop-computer (12 years old with little to no problems)
    Laptops I'm using now freezes up when I open up multiple browserscreens and streaming options (reading: multytasking is not possible)
    My question is: Is a single board computer, like this odyssey, a serious Windows alternative for my desktop (with a videocard) at home and at the same time a workable pc for at work?
    Thank you for reading and consindering an anwser

    • @ExplainingComputers
      @ExplainingComputers  4 года назад +2

      The Odyssey is probably more powerful than most 12 year old desktops (it just depends what the spec of the desktop is). You can use the Odyssey for a lot of computing tasks today -- web browsing, watching videos, e-mail word processing, etc. But it is not an idea machine for heavier tasks like video editing.

  • @AndreKK-
    @AndreKK- 4 года назад +2

    Very good! Waiting for the FreeNAS video!