Wow dude..?.. this is the best goddamn bike review I've been subjected to..mmm..ever! Been riding dirt bike since early 90's and appreciate your input... My 2000CR 125 will catch up to you, later, anywhere... I can't afford to get rid of it 😅 see you at the crossing! Dirt roads
Excellent bike; I took one for a rip the other day and I was super impressed. I love the linear power of my TPI bikes but this TBI is amazing. Lot's of people will be buying this bike and Sherco and Beta will be way way behind as normal.
Awesome stuff. I'll be doing a review ony 2023 250XC soon as well. I'll subscribe to your channel also..trying to connect with as much XC owners with the TBI as possible !
The odd thing about that is that I intentionally idled my bike a long time, when I changed my oil, too see what would happen. Plug was fine. Strange. Might be another issue🤷♂️
Awesome review! I love mcnutt and I can see the at81ex working great there with tubliss, but where I live in Nelson the granite tears holes in that tire every other ride 😮 I’d like to hear a comparison between a TPI running a TSP flash/head vs the TBI stock
I’ve heard that a well setup TSB TPI bike is like a stock TBI, but I haven’t tried. Yup at81 is my choice…not in the summer or anywhere else though, I rip through em! IRC VE33S for summer.
Regarding the Throttle Body F.I, I like... No-jetting convenience. Improved fuel combustion. Shock clicker hand-knobs. But compared to a carb'd model, I don't like... Maintenance complexity and cost. More Weight. (My carb'd model is already too heavy). Inflated Retail Cost is nearly $13,000 otd! I probably would'nt be able to get it a license plate. I ride a 2017 Husqvarna TE300 with a license plate.
Any issues fouling plugs? I have 2 TBI bikes. The 300xc and a 300TX. Both fouled plugs starting at about 3-4 hours. Riding singletrack and try to clean it out as I can and that’s usually when it fouls. Can’t believe of all the crap people talked about TPi bikes and I never had an issue with any of those I owned. Ugh. Love the bikes but don’t feel confident going on long rides without a couple plugs.
@@scottfast03you probably sold the bikes or figured it out but the way to fix it is going to the next hotter plug which means going down 1 number. for example the 2023 husky tx300 comes with a br8es, i would buy a br7es or a br7eix. that will fix ur issue and the br7eix will be even better than the br7es just a lot more expensive
@@goon.1 exactly what my local KTM dealer and Slavens Racing says, so I'm going to try the br7eix on both my 2023 KTM 250 XC bikes that foul their stock br8es every 3 hours or so. ruclips.net/video/qRRdagFnXTw/видео.html
Most comprehensive review I have seen on the new tbi. Were the spokes tight when you received the bike? Would love to see some videos of that bike in action
Such a good review ! So happy with my husky tx so far. First lap out I felt that I could possibly change the gearing. Stock is 14/49 and considering a 14/51 for the Squamish/mcnutt stuff I enjoy.. thoughts ?
I’m very happy with the stock gearing, for technical stuff. The transmission is different, so 1st and 2nd gear are very close to the current xcw. Personal I think a 51 would be to much for me. I do like to run a gear higher typically and use a lot of clutch to keep traction.
@@TechEnduro cheers man! I’ll put more time before I change it. Overall really happy. Was dying at idle and clutch in near end of my vedder day so may need to twist the idle a tad. Did you have to play with yours yet ?
Hello buddy. Thanks for the video. I own a 300 sx 2023 and I notice I had some oil coming from the end silencer. My bike had 7hs running 60:1 just trail and it is my first 2t. Do you know why this? Btw the bike is running well just notice this oil splash in my rare brake
you probably already figured it out but the black stuff which is spooge just means that the engine is getting well lubricated and is excess oil, i would run 50:1-60:1 with an oil that has a flashpoint of 300 degrees fahrenheit or lower depending on ur type of riding
Thanks for sharing excellent review hows the gas mileage they say not so great. Might be a issue for after market larger tanks with the higher seat bolt anyway love the bike.
So far I get about 110km/65 miles ish per tank. Seems ok to me, same as TPI. HighlandCycles did a run dry test as well as a test of the fuel pump. Check him out on RUclips. Unless you’re running on flat paved ground the pump works just fine. 👍
Thank you for this video! Just bought one yesterday from international. Going to mcnutt Sunday!! What fan do you run? Will get the same one in hopes of no issues as well
Cool. I’ll probably riding Sunday too. I have the OEM fan no issues at all. It was on for 15 to 20 minutes straight and then periodically throughout the ride. Didn’t kill the battery totally fine.
Great vid! Any thoughts on how this bike would do as a "do it all"? How would the suspension handle occasional mx track days for an old fart who doesn't jump anything huge?
Of course the stator has enough capacity for a fan. It’s a fuel injection bike with a ecu. It will have the same output as any 2/4 stroke injection bike
@@toyota8830 Ride with guys that have 400 hours and 10,000 mi on two strokes. Bikes run amazing, riders are AA class...They change top end at lunch time at 150 hours that's it no bottom end work ever done.
KTM using customers as 1st year beta testers ???? i never heard of such a thing ..... 🙂 it looks badazz tho, i just can't fall in love w/all the electrics .... yet ......
I believe you’re thinking of the 23 XCW. I’ve see those videos. That’s the old gen bike where they switch piston brand. I’d be surprised to see anybody have 65 hours on these as they were released last month. I’d also wager those are isolated issues.
@@TechEnduro I believe its the new 23 bikes and it's multiple not isolated the piston smashed to pieces, different times but all brand new bikes I used the earliest as an example 65 hours some a bit longer but all same problem, piston obliterated into pieces, p.s just repeating what I've seen🤷🤷🤷🤷
@@shaunbradley5253 I’ve seen probably the same videos. (The dirtbike rider) that’s a 23 XCW. I have yet to see a 23 XC piston issue. If you find one I’d love to know too.
@@TechEnduro I’m pretty sure the XC and XCW use the same top end. One guy tore down a XCW and the top end was actually labeled “300 SX” meaning all 3 300cc bikes have the same top end. The primary difference on the XCW is gearing, the engine is the same
The so called KTM customers are the R&D department of the company. I decided since they don't pay any wages that I'd stick with a 21' 250 SX and do my own trail modifications to make my own trail bike without being an R&D employee (aka TPI customer). Haven't regretted anything and enjoy seeing the injected/battery bikes getting towed out from the trails from time to time🤣
@@dalecalahan4193 Hello, it has the A and B map switch. The power is wonderful. I just added a FMF header to it along with the Pipe as I needed a spark arrestor where I ride as the Park Rangers do check.
@@bbieger2 Don't forget linear engine on the TPI is a serious underrated engine set up, especially when in the super gnarly grunt stuff. All in all it's also an extremely dependable system and works great. No doubt the new TBI is amazing but no reason to take a bath on a newer bike just to grab the latest bike - rider is still 90% of the total equation
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Nice review. I have 10 hours on mine. The bike in the green map is an absolute monster!! Sooo much power, instant acceleration.
About time someone gives a review after 10 hours! Thank you!
Wow dude..?.. this is the best goddamn bike review I've been subjected to..mmm..ever! Been riding dirt bike since early 90's and appreciate your input... My 2000CR 125 will catch up to you, later, anywhere... I can't afford to get rid of it 😅 see you at the crossing! Dirt roads
Thanks! Unfortunately the bike has made me 0.1% better of a rider🤣 LOTS of fun though!
Awesome idea with hand knobs on suspension! Love ktm
Excellent bike; I took one for a rip the other day and I was super impressed. I love the linear power of my TPI bikes but this TBI is amazing. Lot's of people will be buying this bike and Sherco and Beta will be way way behind as normal.
Awesome stuff. I'll be doing a review ony 2023 250XC soon as well. I'll subscribe to your channel also..trying to connect with as much XC owners with the TBI as possible !
Good detailed review nice to hear your opinions on this bike
Great video. Short / covers a lot of good stuff. Thanks
love the dry humor. solid review
Great review! I agree with a lot of your points.
Solid review of the bike man 👍
Awesome overview from an obviously experienced rider. I’m glad to see KTM continuing to innovate. Your mouth sounds nice too.
Bruh 😂
That took an odd turn.
I'm dying 😆😆
@@719vol 🤣
The f?😂
Nice overview. Thanks.
"Turn it" "it's EASY" FANTASTIC 👏😂✌️ Well done. Enjoyed that.. Got my Sub 👊.. OLD G 😉
From what I've heard, the plug fouling issue happens when you let it idle to long with the cold start engaged.
The odd thing about that is that I intentionally idled my bike a long time, when I changed my oil, too see what would happen. Plug was fine. Strange. Might be another issue🤷♂️
@@TechEnduro With the cold start knop pushed up- engaged?
@@racesla
For the first 2-3 minutes
I like the handguards . Nice bike im buyng the 250
Those ribs in the fender are to prevent rocks /dirt from flying up into your helmet/face/body
Oh!
Nice - if you ride midweek at Mcnutt looking for more mid week riders - solid intermediate rider.
The concern with the fan is running a fan and light together. Finding good performance within capacity
Great review. I have new 23 Husqvarna TE300
Awesome review! I love mcnutt and I can see the at81ex working great there with tubliss, but where I live in Nelson the granite tears holes in that tire every other ride 😮 I’d like to hear a comparison between a TPI running a TSP flash/head vs the TBI stock
I’ve heard that a well setup TSB TPI bike is like a stock TBI, but I haven’t tried.
Yup at81 is my choice…not in the summer or anywhere else though, I rip through em! IRC VE33S for summer.
Great review mate
which is better in the Eastern Woods, the XC or XC-w 300?
I can’t wait to see what the xcw will be like. Hoping for similar engine as the xc but with xcw transmission.
Sounds like it!
Regarding the Throttle Body F.I, I like...
No-jetting convenience.
Improved fuel combustion.
Shock clicker hand-knobs.
But compared to a carb'd model, I don't like...
Maintenance complexity and cost.
More Weight. (My carb'd model is already too heavy).
Inflated Retail Cost is nearly $13,000 otd!
I probably would'nt be able to get it a license plate.
I ride a 2017 Husqvarna TE300 with a license plate.
Great video sparky
Great review thanks. regarding the 75w stator. where did you get that from and was it just a bolt on operation?.
Nice bike!! Pikin mine up tomorrow. Did you use a old style fan or did you order new fan for this bike??
it's the old fan. it fits.
amazing review
Good review! Are the air filters the same as the 2022 bikes?
No, they are different.
@@TechEnduro bummer, I already have a nice stack to cycle through. Thanks!
Any issues fouling plugs? I have 2 TBI bikes. The 300xc and a 300TX. Both fouled plugs starting at about 3-4 hours. Riding singletrack and try to clean it out as I can and that’s usually when it fouls. Can’t believe of all the crap people talked about TPi bikes and I never had an issue with any of those I owned. Ugh. Love the bikes but don’t feel confident going on long rides without a couple plugs.
None. Are you on map 104? Some bike fouled like crazy on map 103. 104 fixed this as well as a few other issues.
@@TechEnduro yeah. Both bikes were updated. Still issues. Ugh.
@@scottfast03you probably sold the bikes or figured it out but the way to fix it is going to the next hotter plug which means going down 1 number. for example the 2023 husky tx300 comes with a br8es, i would buy a br7es or a br7eix. that will fix ur issue and the br7eix will be even better than the br7es just a lot more expensive
@@goon.1 exactly what my local KTM dealer and Slavens Racing says, so I'm going to try the br7eix on both my 2023 KTM 250 XC bikes that foul their stock br8es every 3 hours or so. ruclips.net/video/qRRdagFnXTw/видео.html
Good practical review! Glad to hear about the fan. Do you notice if the weight feels different than your previous xc in the techy terrain?
I think it’s slightly lighter but it feels the same to me
@@TechEnduro how it feels is what matters. thanks!
Most comprehensive review I have seen on the new tbi.
Were the spokes tight when you received the bike?
Would love to see some videos of that bike in action
Does the black anodizing on the Bulletproof radiator guards wear off? Thanks!
I’ve had them on lots of bikes it never has.
Such a good review ! So happy with my husky tx so far. First lap out I felt that I could possibly change the gearing. Stock is 14/49 and considering a 14/51 for the Squamish/mcnutt stuff I enjoy.. thoughts ?
I’m very happy with the stock gearing, for technical stuff. The transmission is different, so 1st and 2nd gear are very close to the current xcw. Personal I think a 51 would be to much for me. I do like to run a gear higher typically and use a lot of clutch to keep traction.
@@TechEnduro cheers man! I’ll put more time before I change it. Overall really happy. Was dying at idle and clutch in near end of my vedder day so may need to twist the idle a tad. Did you have to play with yours yet ?
@@stevevanderhoek1304 just halfway through the first ride. A quarter turn higher, no issues now. Vedder was great this weekend👍
Hello buddy. Thanks for the video. I own a 300 sx 2023 and I notice I had some oil coming from the end silencer. My bike had 7hs running 60:1 just trail and it is my first 2t. Do you know why this? Btw the bike is running well just notice this oil splash in my rare brake
you probably already figured it out but the black stuff which is spooge just means that the engine is getting well lubricated and is excess oil, i would run 50:1-60:1 with an oil that has a flashpoint of 300 degrees fahrenheit or lower depending on ur type of riding
So just to clarify ktm includes solid dampeners for underneath the bar clamp, that comes with the bike when you buy it
Yup
Thanks for sharing excellent review hows the gas mileage they say not so great. Might be a issue for after market larger tanks with the higher seat bolt anyway love the bike.
So far I get about 110km/65 miles ish per tank. Seems ok to me, same as TPI. HighlandCycles did a run dry test as well as a test of the fuel pump. Check him out on RUclips. Unless you’re running on flat paved ground the pump works just fine. 👍
@@TechEnduro wow ok better then I heard
Howdy, could you please tell what fan you used on your 2023 300 xc? . Thanks
OEM
What bracket are you running. Spal fan? Info would be appreciated
It’s the OEM powerparts fan kit
Thank you for this video!
Just bought one yesterday from international. Going to mcnutt Sunday!!
What fan do you run? Will get the same one in hopes of no issues as well
Cool. I’ll probably riding Sunday too. I have the OEM fan no issues at all. It was on for 15 to 20 minutes straight and then periodically throughout the ride. Didn’t kill the battery totally fine.
Great vid! Any thoughts on how this bike would do as a "do it all"? How would the suspension handle occasional mx track days for an old fart who doesn't jump anything huge?
It would be decent. Add some PSI to the forks and play with the clickers a bit, you’d have a blast!
Also check out the Spanish Fly endcap. No screen, USFS approved.
Yup. A few guys I know have em👍
does the 2023 xcw have a map switch?
will these fuel tanks fit the 2023 300sx?
They finally raised the pipe... About time, lol
Great info thank you. What kind of bark busters are those? Looked like they mount to the clutch and front brake master cylinders?
OEM KTM
@@TechEnduro wow….never seen them come with wrap arounds.
@@kirkbrittain4659 it's actually an add on to the flags you get with the bike
Are you at Walker?
Do you know the part number for that rad fan?
732-FN3
Radiator Fan Kit: KTM XC-F/XC/SX
Great review. Is ccps still an issue with tbi bikes?
No. Different part # and connecting hose is larger. Haven’t heard of any issues.
Billet, Cycra, Flexx Bars, dampener, what's not to love.
Dude what handguards are those?? Those are sweet.
Powerparts KTM.
I just purchased a 2023 husqvarna tx 300 looking for a fan for it any ideas were I can find one ?
Mine is the OEM one
tanks god info
Do you notice the difference with the rubber mounted bars as apposed to the previous models?
I had rubber for both
Do you think the new rad style would fit on our TPIs to avoid the power valve pinch?
They do fit. I’ve seen it done
@@TechEnduro Good to hear, thanks!!
Did you have to put a different spring on the shock or are you in the weight range?
No. I’m within range
Can you do a demo in the different maps please?
Not sure how I’d show that. I will say the green map is a significant power change.
I know mcnutt when I see that background
Of course the stator has enough capacity for a fan. It’s a fuel injection bike with a ecu. It will have the same output as any 2/4 stroke injection bike
The stator is a lower output to all 22 bikes, that’s the issue some are having.
What thermo fan is that and did it just plug in?
OEM KTM fan. Trail tech makes it. It plugs in to the battery and a prob in the rad measures the temp that you can set to what you like.
Thanks, is there a part number or link you can share?
@@joedwyerjoe
78135941244
I have the 23 250xc, is the fan year specific? Just curious if yours if for a 23 or 22 from parts stores who don’t have many 23 parts
@@Seager_68 it’s the same fan that fits a 2022
Lets see it in 300 hours
not a two stroke or a xc bike but i have 330 hours on my 01 ktm 520
@@toyota8830 Ride with guys that have 400 hours and 10,000 mi on two strokes. Bikes run amazing, riders are AA class...They change top end at lunch time at 150 hours that's it no bottom end work ever done.
Any tbi issues since this video?
Zero issues. Very happy with the bike, I also did a long term review at about 70 hours.
KTM using customers as 1st year beta testers ???? i never heard of such a thing ..... 🙂 it looks badazz tho, i just can't fall in love w/all the electrics .... yet ......
I've heard multiple owners saying piston disintegrated after just 65hours
I believe you’re thinking of the 23 XCW. I’ve see those videos. That’s the old gen bike where they switch piston brand. I’d be surprised to see anybody have 65 hours on these as they were released last month. I’d also wager those are isolated issues.
Kymco chinese top end
@@TechEnduro I believe its the new 23 bikes and it's multiple not isolated the piston smashed to pieces, different times but all brand new bikes I used the earliest as an example 65 hours some a bit longer but all same problem, piston obliterated into pieces, p.s just repeating what I've seen🤷🤷🤷🤷
@@shaunbradley5253 I’ve seen probably the same videos. (The dirtbike rider) that’s a 23 XCW. I have yet to see a 23 XC piston issue. If you find one I’d love to know too.
@@TechEnduro I’m pretty sure the XC and XCW use the same top end. One guy tore down a XCW and the top end was actually labeled “300 SX” meaning all 3 300cc bikes have the same top end. The primary difference on the XCW is gearing, the engine is the same
I have a 2023 tx 300 and my bike ran out of fuel after 40 miles with lots of fuel left in the tank.
KTM ever improves customer service, that will be newsworthy
The so called KTM customers are the R&D department of the company. I decided since they don't pay any wages that I'd stick with a 21' 250 SX and do my own trail modifications to make my own trail bike without being an R&D employee (aka TPI customer). Haven't regretted anything and enjoy seeing the injected/battery bikes getting towed out from the trails from time to time🤣
D’you say Beta tester, thought you were testing the KTM? 😂
looks like Washington
Close. BC
15 minutes
this guy killed five narcatics agents before making this Review.
Ill stick with my new 2023 TPI KTM 300 XC -W ERZBERGRODEO.
That's because you have not experienced the new engine.
@@bbieger2 Maybe so, but I do want to do the pre-mix anymore or I would have bought this model.
I’m looking at the 2023 w also. Does it have a map switch? How’s the power on the w?
@@dalecalahan4193 Hello, it has the A and B map switch. The power is wonderful. I just added a FMF header to it along with the Pipe as I needed a spark arrestor where I ride as the Park Rangers do check.
@@bbieger2 Don't forget linear engine on the TPI is a serious underrated engine set up, especially when in the super gnarly grunt stuff. All in all it's also an extremely dependable system and works great. No doubt the new TBI is amazing but no reason to take a bath on a newer bike just to grab the latest bike - rider is still 90% of the total equation
😂your on a dirt bike, dont do that haha
Nope… all the electronics will eventually spell doom for thus bike….
On the bike graphics is that Purple or Blue ?
There is TBI here