The only time any one will ever think of Klingons as conservationists. Eliminating a pest animal that without any natural predators can disrupt or destroy an ecosystem. I suppose tribbles would make a good snack for the Gorn.
I remember reading something back in my Starfleet Battle days that the long neck was originally a security design to keep the majority slave races manning the ship from having easy access to the command areas in case of a mutiny. The Aux bridge at the base of the neck was a citadel for Klingon security to maintain order. TOS Klingons had some issues...
The neck do seperate command and engineering to such a degree that if either the bridge is destroyed or the aft becomes flooded with plasma fires and radiation during combat, either part can continue operating the ship. The neck might be a weakness, but it is not so without reason. It gives the ship redundancy and resistance to combat attrition.
Alternatively, the 1960s designers wanted an imposing ship that strikes fear into the heart of any target. It ensures that the primary underslung weapon at the forefront of the ship indicates the ships intent and placing it in such a matter from the rest of the ship shows that the klingons are not afraid to do this, further weakening enemy resolve. With a good commander, this design can be interpreted as not idiotic. Edit: Hopefully, the klingons will use this to haul away the enterprise AS garbage.
I just love the way you talk about spaceships. It's like...part ad, part review, and part fictional historical precis. I get a kick out of it every time.
I really enjoy the way you've been weaving more of the setting of whatever ship you've been analyzing into your presentation. I know you've been doing it all along, but you've still definitely improved and it shows. I *felt* that ending when you said, "(. . .) for as long as there as warriors to sing them." It feels less like someone out-of-universe describing a ship and how it relates in-universe, and more like I'm listening to a technical, dry, yet somehow passionate description from a Klingon narrator. I don't know how to describe it, exactly? Your descriptions are thoughtful and precise, yet also feel incredibly alive. I guess it's something similar to the feeling I get from an SCP file.
One of the details I like is how information is always presented 'in world.' Instead of saying "this ship first appeared in episode 3 of season 2" he'll say something like "this ship was first deployed at the battle of--" some particular event.
@@watcherzero5256 The lights lower because so much power is being drawn to operate the cloak that other systems are reduced to compensate. The Romulans don't worry about this as they utilize Artificial Quantum Singularities. Over time, as the cloaks were made more efficient and the Warp Cores were upgraded there was no longer the need to decide between one or the other. However, the requirements for the Romulan devices were still so high that when the USS Defiant utilized one, they still had to reduce other systems, even though she was equipped with a more powerful Warp Drive and a smaller hull that needed to be covered. Plus it just looked cool and when in doubt: Observe the Rule of Cool.
@@boobah5643 The Romulan Plasma Torpedo can vaporize an enemy ship with a single shot if close enough, so I agree that the Warbird is definitely the best u-boat analogue in classic Trek. The D-7 and Constitution class probably both strike closest to battlecruisers, being both capitol ships with maneuverability, leaving Bird-of-Prey and Miranda class covering the roles of cruiser/destroyer escort
"Songs will be sung about the mighty D-7 for as long as there are warriors to sing them". I've always had a special love for the D-7 & K'tinga Class Battlecruisers 🌌🚀👽
Whenever anyone will ever think of a sci-fi "warship", the D7 will be the first that comes to mind. It just looks made for the part. A forever classic.
The Klingon D7 Class Warship was an impressive design and it was so good it had many refits and variants like the K'Tinga class that was first introduced at the beginning of Star Trek the Motion Picture and one was used as the personal flagship of the Klingon High Chancellor Gorkon in Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country.
And still formidable enough to take on a relatively new Intrepid-class ship, namely Voyager and did some considerable damage. True, if the game was a straight up slugging match, vikmmm
@@chrismc410Yeah it don't forget the D7 that was encountered by Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant because the crew was on a pilgrimage or something looking for a Messiah that would help the Klingon empire and they believed Lt. Bellana Torres' unborn child was that Messiah and also remember at the beginning of that episode where the D7 was attacking Voyager the crew were able to detect and disable the ships cloaking device with a metaphasic sweep and one well placed shot from Voyagers phasers.
My only complaint about the D-7? It's a really hard name to make sound good in a great victory song. It really just doesn't roll off the tongue at all!
In TMP they did show a Klingon ship with a rear facing torpedo tube. watch the opening scenes. The last ship fired afterward just before being hit by the Vger plasma weapon.
You know you've got a good ship design when you're looking for a new and updated battlecruiser and you get the K'tinga class. Basically just, "Hey, you remember the D7? Again, but better."
I remember the first time we saw a Klingon K'Tinga class Warship in the 24th century was in the Star Trek The Next Generation season 1 episode 'Code of Honor' where the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise encountered a K'Tinga class ship after picking up 3 Klingon renegades.
When I first saw a Klingon D7 warship fire disruptor blasts from it's warp nacelles I was surprised that something like that would work but then again I shouldn't be surprised as Federation Starships like the Galaxy Venture Class Refit had phaser strips mounted on top of the warp nacelles and on the sides of the warp nacelle pylons and let's also not forget the U.S.S. Defiant as it had phaser cannons mounted on brackets near the warp engines too.
The biggest issue I have with this ship is the very narrow hull section that connects the bridge to the rest of the hull. That makes no sense for a ship meant for battle because it would be a huge weakness. All you'd have to do to disable it is focus on the neck and you'd cut the bridge off the ship.
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I was thinking what DS9 should have done to the D-7 is to attach extra weapons(or stuff) to the underside of the ship. Inspired by the Nebula class modular section
Thank you for a in sightful look at what I and many thing is one of the best ships in STAR TREK. I am glad they just up graded to a K'tinga class without losing the great look.
I haven't seen explanations for Klingon ship names and I suspect the names were often simply made up for the ship by authors rather than being derived from an in-universe source. However, the K't'inga class that followed the D-7 does share a name with a star in Klingon space: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/K%27t%27inga
I'd wager the proper names were most likely tied to the individual Houses that built them. Though I'm guessing no one was so presumptuous as to name one after Kahless.
Sometimes the ships are just named after warriors or even the battles they are going to be in. There is no standard conventional rule for how the Klingons name their ships except after what ever it's first captain chooses to, name new steel is their creed.
I always felt that its greatest design flaw of the Klingon D-series is that really long and skinny neck connecting the Bridge with the rest of the ship. So I was like "Finally! Someone gets it!" when "Prelude to Axanar" had a scene of a ship blasting a D6 at the neck, cutting the ship in two.
As a WW II history enthusiast, I love the BF 109 vs Spitfire analogy, although Star Trek usually seems more like a naval frontier, so also maybe a Hipper class vs an Iowa class battleship would work too. I've got a really old diecast metal D7 made by uhh...Korgi I think...had it since I was a kid. Love the design of the D7.... it's every much as beautiful as Starflleet's Connies were.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and format provided on the Klingon D'7 Battle Cruisers and on all of their functions and abilities as per its various weapons systems, sheild strengths, enginepower and cloaking device and of it's upgrades and various missions and duties required of it; A job very nicely and greatly well done indeed Sir!👌.
You've been watching the show. The D7 and K'tinga are completely different animals, built on completely different engineering fantasies. The blueprints, on which the original television model was made, had a completely different weapon layout. While it did have its main disruptors on the warp engine nacelles, the secondary armament consisted of nine "phasers," which could ALL fire to the rear, but only five could fire forward. The K'tinga appeared almost a decade after the original series, and has a completely different weapon layout. It is never depicted firing weapons from the warp nacelles. Plan view drawings show it armed with 10 disruptors, 6 forward and 4 aft. The two on the underside on the "hat" are where the original had large tractor beam mounts. The K'tinga also has a photon torpedo where the original had what appeared to be a high gain RF antenna. These ships look may almost exactly alike, but they belong in completely different universes.
Always loved thus ship when I was a kid...... They way it did a power dive attack with a a group of then.......( Not sure if it was a D7 though) Always thought the ship was wearing a HAT!
I remember being irked when Discovery season one had an ugly vessel called the D-7, and being immensely happy when they bought the real D-7 back with an asskicking vengeance in season two.
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I'm a big fan of the Starfleet Battles boardgame and always get a kick when I see images of D7s that have SFB influenced elements in the design ( mainly the 7 phaser mounts on the hull ( 4 waist mounts next to the shuttle bay, 1underslung on each side of the main hull and 3 mounts on the bottom of the command pod )) in fact there were 2 examples shown in the breakdown 😁 And before anyone says anything, this is purely from the games universe/ timeline, nothing more. But the game has been around since 1975 so a little " crossover" is inevitable 😁
@@blackasp001 The original blueprints were drawn by Matt Jeffries, who had a background in aerospace. He deliberately designed the ship to be consistent with the same engineering fantasy he developed for the Enterprise. The later spaceship models are designed by people much better at theatrical design. Of course, if you have any kind of engineering fantasy, you just might not be able to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to keep up with the theatrics.
Stellar episode lad! great work as usual but I would have never comparre the constellation to the spitfire and the D-7 to the 109. That is stellar writing and as a huge fan of the spitfire I can see what you mean.
Can you do a segment on Robotech The Macross saga concentrating on the war with the Robotech Masters and the Invid war prior to the series involving Earth?
I have great respect for Klingon culture. They're like how earth could have been if certain ideologies became dominant, instead of the current status quo of human rights. Not as bad of a species as most people think, just in a lost and dark period of their history. Cool vid, as always
I wonder how you would say Matt Jeffries in Klingon phonology. I like the idea that the D-7 has a much smaller crew, the aft section being mostly automated and storage. My only support for this, of course, is Day of the Dove when a small number were rescued from the doomed Klingon ship.
Great video. Of course, the D7 and Bird of Prey both have their original design cues reaching back to no later than the NX-era. We're not sure what the heck happened in between "Enterprise" and "Discovery" (neither do the producers) but it is a fascinating lineage, nonetheless.
The long neck is because the engines were more dirty than the Federation ships, and the Klingons had slave races working on board, and the neck is a good control point to keep the slaves away from the bridge in case of a revolt.
Yeah. Warp engines can be made slightly faster and more efficient if you allow the core to dump excess delta radiation around them. This radiation is hazardous to any nearby biological matter. This is seen most prominently in the mirror universe episode In a Mirror, Darkly Part 1 when Commander Tucker boasts facial scaring from delta radiation exposure.
@@jasonwalker9471 why does there have to be a technically good reason for it? I just took it as the Terran Empire not caring to install as much shielding as Starfleet did. You could easily make that argument about the Klingon Empire too. Given Starfleet warp cores can mess you up way worse if their shielding is breached or, later, if some forcefields fail. So these empires install just enough shielding that it doesn’t kill you instantly, rather than making it genuinely safe.
@@kaitlyn__L Yes, canonically the Klingons do much the same thing as the Terrans do. Just like in real life, low levels of shielding = smaller, lighter vessels that can match the output of bigger ships. Heavy shielding is one of the reasons why real life nuclear thermal drive systems only have double the fuel efficiency of their chemically powered equivalents. The reactors and engines themselves are vastly more efficient, but the shielding and reactor components of current gen designs are so heavy that the extra mass negates some of the benefits. It makes sense that things would work much the same way in the Star Trek universe, even with inertial dampeners.
@@jasonwalker9471 I guess I had taken it as some kind of “ruthless efficiency gets that extra 5%”, which is more of a meme about fascist empires than reality, and it kinda sounded like the delta radiation was being deliberately and carefully allowed out into the cabin at the “optimum” rate, or stuff like that. But if all you meant was “skimping on shielding makes them marginally lighter” (considering how much bigger these ships are) that makes sense. It just sounded to me more like that was deliberate policy solely for speed, rather than just cheaping out on the materials for shielding to the bare minimum so they can churn out a few more ships.
Can I suggest that you do an episode on the Starlost vessel 'Earthship Ark'. Perhaps include the ships from 'Silent Running' as they use similar geodesic habitat pods.
The torpedo launcher up front was never intended to be that by the original model designer. It was intended to be the deflector dish. It wasn’t until the first movie that it became a launcher and that was retconned into always having been a launcher. This is part of canon drift, much as the obviously Romulan BoP became the iconic Klingon ship due to the cost of new starship models. Even worse, writers who weren’t even slightly familiar with Star Trek lore started applying the "warbird" term to all Klingon ships, most notably in the JJ Abrams movies. Considering he didn’t like Star Trek and was proud of the fact that some of the other writers had never even seen the shows, it’s not surprising he didn’t bother to give the canon any attention at all. Not that errors like this were restricted to JJ, we’ve see D-7s firing phasers out of their "torpedo launchers" in DS9 and even the Enterprise-D doing the same thing in "Darmok’.
This, the constitution class, the classic romulan warbird and the blue bulgles of planetary destruction are what have craved to see on a modern day screen, something Discovery hadn’t managed to recreate in the least and pray someone will try in the future.
As a trekkie who had made a D7 model as a kid in the 70s; the forward hole was supposed to be the deflector emitter originally. My model actually had a spike just recessed into the hole, rather like the spike of any radar saucer. And the deflector of the Enterprise. Then ST:TMP happened and in the opening scene this turned into a torpedo launcher! I was shocked, miffed, and yes I'm a jerk. And, btw, neither the Klingons nor the Romulans had photon torpedoes. In original Trek, it was Earth that was the most progressive in technology. Creating the great star ships. I've always been annoyed later treks implied Klingons and Romulans were more advanced (looking at you ENTERPRISE).
"I've always been annoyed later treks implied Klingons and Romulans were more advanced." Since when did they establish the Federation was technologically superior? Spock literally says "Obviously, their weaponry is superior to ours" when discussing the Romulan's plasma torpedo in Balance of Terror. Not to mention the fact they had a proper cloaking device which was only theoretical to the Federation at the time because of power requirements.
Very good, but I'd still like to see a break down of the Babylon 5 station and the Vorlon Dreadnought. I'm also curious as to your opinion on how a Starfurry would stand up to an X-Wing.
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4:20 Don't forget the greatest conflict in the history of the empire, the great tribble hunt.
They still sing songs of the great tribble hunt!! Qapla'
They don’t speak of it much
Gotta be one of my favorite DS9 episodes.
The Aussies with rabbits probably get it more than us in the states. Pests and all.
The only time any one will ever think of Klingons as conservationists. Eliminating a pest animal that without any natural predators can disrupt or destroy an ecosystem. I suppose tribbles would make a good snack for the Gorn.
Well, that’s The TroubleWith Tribbles!!😂
I love how the D7's "Vulnerable" neck is invisible when the ship attacks head on, indicating that this is the intended offensive strategy.
Just like with the Constitution class, which when faced head on, has the vulnerable neck … … oh!
_I see an issue here_
I remember reading something back in my Starfleet Battle days that the long neck was originally a security design to keep the majority slave races manning the ship from having easy access to the command areas in case of a mutiny. The Aux bridge at the base of the neck was a citadel for Klingon security to maintain order. TOS Klingons had some issues...
Crap, I never even thought of that.
The neck do seperate command and engineering to such a degree that if either the bridge is destroyed or the aft becomes flooded with plasma fires and radiation during combat, either part can continue operating the ship. The neck might be a weakness, but it is not so without reason. It gives the ship redundancy and resistance to combat attrition.
Alternatively, the 1960s designers wanted an imposing ship that strikes fear into the heart of any target. It ensures that the primary underslung weapon at the forefront of the ship indicates the ships intent and placing it in such a matter from the rest of the ship shows that the klingons are not afraid to do this, further weakening enemy resolve. With a good commander, this design can be interpreted as not idiotic.
Edit: Hopefully, the klingons will use this to haul away the enterprise AS garbage.
I just love the way you talk about spaceships. It's like...part ad, part review, and part fictional historical precis. I get a kick out of it every time.
I really enjoy the way you've been weaving more of the setting of whatever ship you've been analyzing into your presentation. I know you've been doing it all along, but you've still definitely improved and it shows. I *felt* that ending when you said, "(. . .) for as long as there as warriors to sing them." It feels less like someone out-of-universe describing a ship and how it relates in-universe, and more like I'm listening to a technical, dry, yet somehow passionate description from a Klingon narrator. I don't know how to describe it, exactly? Your descriptions are thoughtful and precise, yet also feel incredibly alive. I guess it's something similar to the feeling I get from an SCP file.
Draxiss if I ever publish a sci-fi story I'd want him to do the reviews on the spacecraft
One of the details I like is how information is always presented 'in world.' Instead of saying "this ship first appeared in episode 3 of season 2" he'll say something like "this ship was first deployed at the battle of--" some particular event.
I feel like the Klingon's ships have the most U-boat feel of the already submarine based space combat of Star Trek.
They also for some reason lower the lights when cloaked emphasising the 'silent running'
@@watcherzero5256 The lights lower because so much power is being drawn to operate the cloak that other systems are reduced to compensate. The Romulans don't worry about this as they utilize Artificial Quantum Singularities.
Over time, as the cloaks were made more efficient and the Warp Cores were upgraded there was no longer the need to decide between one or the other. However, the requirements for the Romulan devices were still so high that when the USS Defiant utilized one, they still had to reduce other systems, even though she was equipped with a more powerful Warp Drive and a smaller hull that needed to be covered.
Plus it just looked cool and when in doubt: Observe the Rule of Cool.
They are the ships of a hunter
@@danielseelye6005 well the lights shouldn't matter if you have an Antimatter powered ship.
@@boobah5643 The Romulan Plasma Torpedo can vaporize an enemy ship with a single shot if close enough, so I agree that the Warbird is definitely the best u-boat analogue in classic Trek. The D-7 and Constitution class probably both strike closest to battlecruisers, being both capitol ships with maneuverability, leaving Bird-of-Prey and Miranda class covering the roles of cruiser/destroyer escort
Yes, D7 probably my all time favorite spaceship design
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A classic Klingon ship whos design has been used for centuries, simply perfect. Long Live the Empire!
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If Enterprise is accepted, so was the Bird-of-Prey. I wouldn't mind taking either the D7/K'Tinga-class or any version of the Bird-of-Prey into battle
"Songs will be sung about the mighty D-7 for as long as there are warriors to sing them". I've always had a special love for the D-7 & K'tinga Class Battlecruisers 🌌🚀👽
Whenever anyone will ever think of a sci-fi "warship", the D7 will be the first that comes to mind.
It just looks made for the part.
A forever classic.
the long neck, wings and marble with funny hat for front. bothers me, i tend to think of B5 human ships when the term scifi warship is uttered.
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From a purely military standpoint, yeah, not very efficient.
But this is sci-fi, after all.
It just looks downright sinister.
Eh, I usually default to Imperial Star Destroyers myself...
@@Noble713 For me it's that, Imperial Executor, the U.S.S. Prometheus, or U.S.S. Vengeance. :P
@@megamanx466 I'm partial to the GTD Orion-class destroyer
"Guess who's coming for dinner?" Pavel A Chekov in Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country.
The Klingon D7 Class Warship was an impressive design and it was so good it had many refits and variants like the K'Tinga class that was first introduced at the beginning of Star Trek the Motion Picture and one was used as the personal flagship of the Klingon High Chancellor Gorkon in Star Trek VI:The Undiscovered Country.
And still formidable enough to take on a relatively new Intrepid-class ship, namely Voyager and did some considerable damage. True, if the game was a straight up slugging match, vikmmm
@@chrismc410Yeah it don't forget the D7 that was encountered by Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant because the crew was on a pilgrimage or something looking for a Messiah that would help the Klingon empire and they believed Lt. Bellana Torres' unborn child was that Messiah and also remember at the beginning of that episode where the D7 was attacking Voyager the crew were able to detect and disable the ships cloaking device with a metaphasic sweep and one well placed shot from Voyagers phasers.
This was and remains my favorite starship. Period. Since the first time on TOS I saw her. I’m 67 and I wish I had one!!!
One of my all time favorite sci-fi ship designs! Truly a majestic beast.
One of my all time favorite ship designs! I loved how it retained its lethality in the Dominion War better than many old Federation designs did.
Your delivery of that last line really stirred something in me. Well done.
Since the Cloaking device was originally a Romulan invention.... maybe a video on the Romulan Bird of Prey?
My only complaint about the D-7? It's a really hard name to make sound good in a great victory song. It really just doesn't roll off the tongue at all!
depends. Probably sounds good in Klingon
That was hysterical how Seven just looked bored😂...”Oh...Klingons...”-yawns and goes back to charting stars...😂😂😂💗
*_"Revenge is a dish best served cold."_*
*Laughs in Microwave*
ka'plah. lol.
So is beef stew, I've found. There is no term for 'beef stew' in the Klingon Dictionary; I've checked.
And it is very cold in space
*_"KHAAAAAAN!!!!"_*
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Qapla'! This video pleases the empire!
Excellent. Thanks for this. Don't forget the K'Tinga had a rear-firing photon torpedo launcher.
Matt Jefferies -- we are not worthy.
The D-7, the only battleship that wears a sombrero.
the D-7 is not a battleship it is a battlecruiser.
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My favorite scifi ship ever!
Gotta be hands down my favorite ship in all of Sci-Fi.
Thanks for this vid.
In TMP they did show a Klingon ship with a rear facing torpedo tube. watch the opening scenes. The last ship fired afterward just before being hit by the Vger plasma weapon.
One of my favourite design's ever
You know you've got a good ship design when you're looking for a new and updated battlecruiser and you get the K'tinga class. Basically just, "Hey, you remember the D7? Again, but better."
I remember the first time we saw a Klingon K'Tinga class Warship in the 24th century was in the Star Trek The Next Generation season 1 episode 'Code of Honor' where the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise encountered a K'Tinga class ship after picking up 3 Klingon renegades.
When I first saw a Klingon D7 warship fire disruptor blasts from it's warp nacelles I was surprised that something like that would work but then again I shouldn't be surprised as Federation Starships like the Galaxy Venture Class Refit had phaser strips mounted on top of the warp nacelles and on the sides of the warp nacelle pylons and let's also not forget the U.S.S. Defiant as it had phaser cannons mounted on brackets near the warp engines too.
A gorgeous design. Agressive, powerful, intimidating. I am so happy I finally got one on STO to use.
Is it just me or does the name battlecruiser role of the tongue. Admiral jackey Fisher would be proud his mad idea has become so iconic in scifi lol.
I love how you get enthusiastic about these starships in your videos.
The biggest issue I have with this ship is the very narrow hull section that connects the bridge to the rest of the hull.
That makes no sense for a ship meant for battle because it would be a huge weakness. All you'd have to do to disable it is focus on the neck and you'd cut the bridge off the ship.
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Wish they'd release it on steam. Does the game still work well 'out of the box'?
I was thinking what DS9 should have done to the D-7 is to attach extra weapons(or stuff) to the underside of the ship. Inspired by the Nebula class modular section
D7 or Ktinga is quickly becoming my favorite ship.
the end of this video gave me a chill.. you spoke well sir.
Thank you for a in sightful look at what I and many thing is one of the best ships in STAR TREK. I am glad they just up graded to a K'tinga class without losing the great look.
You should do a review of the most OP ship in space: The Andromeda Ascendant.
It was ridiculously powerful and the knockoffs they built after resurrecting the commonwealth paled in comparison.
They should do a one time cross-over since they(the shows) were both created by Roddenberry and they're normally two different galaxies anyway. :D
A question; as earth starships are named after a variety of things (rivers, generals, gods and such,) any idea what Klingon ships are named after?
I haven't seen explanations for Klingon ship names and I suspect the names were often simply made up for the ship by authors rather than being derived from an in-universe source. However, the K't'inga class that followed the D-7 does share a name with a star in Klingon space:
memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/K%27t%27inga
I'd wager the proper names were most likely tied to the individual Houses that built them. Though I'm guessing no one was so presumptuous as to name one after Kahless.
I have heard of a "Fek'lar" class, which is named after the Klingon "Devil", and my thought was they might be named after famous warriors or battles.
Flowers, of course. Kor commanded the Petunia, Korath commanded the Daffidol and Kang commanded the Tulip.
Sometimes the ships are just named after warriors or even the battles they are going to be in. There is no standard conventional rule for how the Klingons name their ships except after what ever it's first captain chooses to, name new steel is their creed.
If only the High Council had listened to Kharn, the D7 would have been ready to deploy to Cygnus III, and they would have destroyed the Federation.
Nice reference!
Long live the Ares!
Gross, Axanar
Gross? Are you insane?
Axanar? Gross?! What universe are you from?!
@@Bronasaxon One where we don't have scammers like Alec Peters.
A truly unique and beautiful weapon.
I always felt that its greatest design flaw of the Klingon D-series is that really long and skinny neck connecting the Bridge with the rest of the ship. So I was like "Finally! Someone gets it!" when "Prelude to Axanar" had a scene of a ship blasting a D6 at the neck, cutting the ship in two.
Digging the new production touches. Like sound and cleaner graphics.
As a WW II history enthusiast, I love the BF 109 vs Spitfire analogy, although Star Trek usually seems more like a naval frontier, so also maybe a Hipper class vs an Iowa class battleship would work too.
I've got a really old diecast metal D7 made by uhh...Korgi I think...had it since I was a kid. Love the design of the D7.... it's every much as beautiful as Starflleet's Connies were.
Thank you for featuring a screen grab of Axanar. :)
My favorite Klingon warship.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and format provided on the Klingon D'7 Battle Cruisers and on all of their functions and abilities as per its various weapons systems, sheild strengths, enginepower and cloaking device and of it's upgrades and various missions and duties required of it; A job very nicely and greatly well done indeed Sir!👌.
A brilliant summary of the most Iconic Battlecruiser the Empire has ever built. Glory to the Empire, Glory to Spacedock, qapla'!
And so the fleet of D7s surrounded the planet in preparation for the final fight of the great tribble hunt: The Battle of Squeaking Fields
You've been watching the show. The D7 and K'tinga are completely different animals, built on completely different engineering fantasies. The blueprints, on which the original television model was made, had a completely different weapon layout. While it did have its main disruptors on the warp engine nacelles, the secondary armament consisted of nine "phasers," which could ALL fire to the rear, but only five could fire forward.
The K'tinga appeared almost a decade after the original series, and has a completely different weapon layout. It is never depicted firing weapons from the warp nacelles. Plan view drawings show it armed with 10 disruptors, 6 forward and 4 aft. The two on the underside on the "hat" are where the original had large tractor beam mounts. The K'tinga also has a photon torpedo where the original had what appeared to be a high gain RF antenna.
These ships look may almost exactly alike, but they belong in completely different universes.
My favourite spacecraft of any franchise in the scifi genre.
Always loved thus ship when I was a kid...... They way it did a power dive attack with a a group of then.......( Not sure if it was a D7 though)
Always thought the ship was wearing a HAT!
For the Empire!
Qapla'
I remember being irked when Discovery season one had an ugly vessel called the D-7, and being immensely happy when they bought the real D-7 back with an asskicking vengeance in season two.
Bf 109 vs Spitfire. I like that analogy!
Let us embark to glory my fellow warriors, let us show our enemies the might of the D7. Kapla!
Excellent breakdown.
Klingon Proverb: "Only a fool fights in a burning house."
Tholian: "petaQ, please."
Trump supporters: "My house might be burning down, but so is yours! Take that, liberals!" *Continues sucking off the carrot man* "Yes! Burn my house, daddy! BURN IT! Also, take all my money too, and use it to build a flimsy fence! 'MURICA!"
@Danny M Isn't your phrase redundant as aren't unhinged and liberal the same thing now days?
@@DeathlordSlavik Perhaps, but it's ironic anyways because the man doesn't seem conservative to me at all... which would make him a liberal. :P
@@megamanx466 Who Trump? If the comment is about Trump he is a Kennedy era democrat which I have criticized him for but he is far better then the alternative which would of been Hilary or if someone else was nominated by the republican party it would of been a left leaning neo-con which would of been far further left then Trump is. At least with Trump we get someone who is at least a bit of a populist or nationalist and wont roll over for the other side as we haven't had someone like that in..... I honestly don't know how long as Trump was the first to actually push back against modern liberals in my life time.
@@DeathlordSlavik I'm not going to argue about politics on here(not because I can't), but I will 🤣 @ populist. :)
just realized that your intro music is from Battlezone 2 ... one of my all time favourites. Kudos :-)
Welcome back. Great video as always.
An ICONIC design! Meloootaaaaa...
I'm a big fan of the Starfleet Battles boardgame and always get a kick when I see images of D7s that have SFB influenced elements in the design ( mainly the 7 phaser mounts on the hull ( 4 waist mounts next to the shuttle bay, 1underslung on each side of the main hull and 3 mounts on the bottom of the command pod )) in fact there were 2 examples shown in the breakdown 😁
And before anyone says anything, this is purely from the games universe/ timeline, nothing more. But the game has been around since 1975 so a little " crossover" is inevitable 😁
Don't forget the drone racks in the shuttle bay.
@@Redwaltz4 true, but I was going for the the most visible aspects 🙂
@@blackasp001 The original blueprints were drawn by Matt Jeffries, who had a background in aerospace. He deliberately designed the ship to be consistent with the same engineering fantasy he developed for the Enterprise. The later spaceship models are designed by people much better at theatrical design. Of course, if you have any kind of engineering fantasy, you just might not be able to perform the mental gymnastics necessary to keep up with the theatrics.
Stellar episode lad! great work as usual but I would have never comparre the constellation to the spitfire and the D-7 to the 109. That is stellar writing and as a huge fan of the spitfire I can see what you mean.
Can you do a segment on Robotech The Macross saga concentrating on the war with the Robotech Masters and the Invid war prior to the series involving Earth?
Awesome !! Yes Thank You! D-7s
My favorite Klingon ship! Qapla'!
Superb episode‼️‼️
Another great breakdown👍
Wow. I must applaud that presentation! (Your accent doesn't hurt, either :))
I have great respect for Klingon culture. They're like how earth could have been if certain ideologies became dominant, instead of the current status quo of human rights. Not as bad of a species as most people think, just in a lost and dark period of their history. Cool vid, as always
I wonder how you would say Matt Jeffries in Klingon phonology.
I like the idea that the D-7 has a much smaller crew, the aft section being mostly automated and storage. My only support for this, of course, is Day of the Dove when a small number were rescued from the doomed Klingon ship.
One of the more grounded sci fi designs. Long and sleek with low cross sectional area.
The Ton'G
3:02 I always suspected of ben stiller being a romulan, now i know
Klingons always viewed something, if it ain't broken don't fix it.
Great video. Of course, the D7 and Bird of Prey both have their original design cues reaching back to no later than the NX-era. We're not sure what the heck happened in between "Enterprise" and "Discovery" (neither do the producers) but it is a fascinating lineage, nonetheless.
Missed these star vids
Great video. Still can't get over the weird looking discovery klingons
They look amazing in season 2
Ok, so I'm not even a trekkie but Daniel's final narration got me aroused.
The long neck is because the engines were more dirty than the Federation ships, and the Klingons had slave races working on board, and the neck is a good control point to keep the slaves away from the bridge in case of a revolt.
Yeah. Warp engines can be made slightly faster and more efficient if you allow the core to dump excess delta radiation around them. This radiation is hazardous to any nearby biological matter. This is seen most prominently in the mirror universe episode In a Mirror, Darkly Part 1 when Commander Tucker boasts facial scaring from delta radiation exposure.
@@jasonwalker9471 why does there have to be a technically good reason for it? I just took it as the Terran Empire not caring to install as much shielding as Starfleet did. You could easily make that argument about the Klingon Empire too. Given Starfleet warp cores can mess you up way worse if their shielding is breached or, later, if some forcefields fail. So these empires install just enough shielding that it doesn’t kill you instantly, rather than making it genuinely safe.
@@kaitlyn__L Yes, canonically the Klingons do much the same thing as the Terrans do. Just like in real life, low levels of shielding = smaller, lighter vessels that can match the output of bigger ships.
Heavy shielding is one of the reasons why real life nuclear thermal drive systems only have double the fuel efficiency of their chemically powered equivalents. The reactors and engines themselves are vastly more efficient, but the shielding and reactor components of current gen designs are so heavy that the extra mass negates some of the benefits. It makes sense that things would work much the same way in the Star Trek universe, even with inertial dampeners.
@@jasonwalker9471 I guess I had taken it as some kind of “ruthless efficiency gets that extra 5%”, which is more of a meme about fascist empires than reality, and it kinda sounded like the delta radiation was being deliberately and carefully allowed out into the cabin at the “optimum” rate, or stuff like that. But if all you meant was “skimping on shielding makes them marginally lighter” (considering how much bigger these ships are) that makes sense. It just sounded to me more like that was deliberate policy solely for speed, rather than just cheaping out on the materials for shielding to the bare minimum so they can churn out a few more ships.
When will we hear stories of the Great Tribble Wars?
Nice work.
When are we getting more of the Sojourn?
I second that......
but this is still good stuff...
Thank you
THE GOAT.
QAPLA! Love Klingon ships 👌🏻😉
Can I suggest that you do an episode on the Starlost vessel 'Earthship Ark'.
Perhaps include the ships from 'Silent Running' as they use similar geodesic habitat pods.
Inform bridge! Inform bridge! Inform bridge!...
The torpedo launcher up front was never intended to be that by the original model designer. It was intended to be the deflector dish. It wasn’t until the first movie that it became a launcher and that was retconned into always having been a launcher. This is part of canon drift, much as the obviously Romulan BoP became the iconic Klingon ship due to the cost of new starship models. Even worse, writers who weren’t even slightly familiar with Star Trek lore started applying the "warbird" term to all Klingon ships, most notably in the JJ Abrams movies. Considering he didn’t like Star Trek and was proud of the fact that some of the other writers had never even seen the shows, it’s not surprising he didn’t bother to give the canon any attention at all. Not that errors like this were restricted to JJ, we’ve see D-7s firing phasers out of their "torpedo launchers" in DS9 and even the Enterprise-D doing the same thing in "Darmok’.
A favorite of mine.
Nevermind the similarly appearing D6 cruiser Klingons used a hundred years before.
This, the constitution class, the classic romulan warbird and the blue bulgles of planetary destruction are what have craved to see on a modern day screen, something Discovery hadn’t managed to recreate in the least and pray someone will try in the future.
As a trekkie who had made a D7 model as a kid in the 70s; the forward hole was supposed to be the deflector emitter originally. My model actually had a spike just recessed into the hole, rather like the spike of any radar saucer. And the deflector of the Enterprise.
Then ST:TMP happened and in the opening scene this turned into a torpedo launcher! I was shocked, miffed, and yes I'm a jerk. And, btw, neither the Klingons nor the Romulans had photon torpedoes.
In original Trek, it was Earth that was the most progressive in technology. Creating the great star ships. I've always been annoyed later treks implied Klingons and Romulans were more advanced (looking at you ENTERPRISE).
"I've always been annoyed later treks implied Klingons and Romulans were more advanced."
Since when did they establish the Federation was technologically superior? Spock literally says "Obviously, their weaponry is superior to ours" when discussing the Romulan's plasma torpedo in Balance of Terror. Not to mention the fact they had a proper cloaking device which was only theoretical to the Federation at the time because of power requirements.
I so hope that one day we will actually see Axanar, their shots of the D7 are just perfect 😁
Very good, but I'd still like to see a break down of the Babylon 5 station and the Vorlon Dreadnought.
I'm also curious as to your opinion on how a Starfurry would stand up to an X-Wing.
When I have my galactic empire....this will be my ship-of-the-line
D-7 is definitely a strong contender for best sci-fi ship design of all time, IMO.
The Battle of qlaH D'qel braQ is one of my favourite slaughters!
2:11 Can someone tell me what episode this scene is from is it from an episode of Discovery I missed or is it from an episode of Strange New Worlds.