@@nikosougias1298 Where would you want me to send them? I just had the leak looked at at my shop and they said it was the bell-housing --not the oil return. I thought I'd be relieved, but honestly, fixing the bell-housing leak is WAY more expensive. The whole trans has to drop out. fml.
As much as BMW incorporates multiple heat shields, heat is still what kills these engines. The valve stem seals become hardened due to the extreme heat from the twin turbos and cat converters. If they could deal with the exhaust heat issues, these engines would be nearly bullet proof.
is there a way to wrap the stuff with exhaust heat wrap? considering a 750i in the future i have a 2007 with the n62 and honestly other than gaskets going every once in awhile its not a bad unit
Hey Charlie, nice video. Let me tell you that I'm working on a N63 Twin Turbo 4.4 xDrive 50i, I am reassembling it, but then an issue appeared: I don't know how to synchronize the crankshaft with the camshaft, in other words to put on time the whole distribution. I'm part of Autodata community and also I have the diagram for the valves setting, but there's no further information which can help me. I'm wondering if you can help me with, thank you 🙏🏼
So many heat generating components stuffed in tiny little space. I don’t care how many heat shields bmw put in there. It is like putting aluminum foils in the oven separating a bunch of hotdogs. They all gonna be cooked no matter what.
Well said. Running a thermostat with a lower opening temperature will help to increase the lifespan of the engine but that won't nevessarily stop the problems.
Yeah….discontinuing since never considering they are pumping out V8’s constantly still in 2022. Misinformed right here. Check out the N63TU3 being sold right now worldwide by the thousands. Yeah….discontinuing alright lol NOT
Hello Majdi, sorry for the late reply. BMW makes this slightly confusing. Let me see if I can clear it up. The N63 is a Engine: It's a twin turbo V8, made from 2008 until present. The F13 is a chassis model, NOT a engine. The F13 is a 3rd generation 6 series BMW that was made from 2011-2017, the F13 also means it was a 2 door coupe, the F12 is the same year and body chassis as the F13 except the F12 is a 2 door convertible. The F06 is again the same year as F12 and F13 except it's a 4 door. It starts getting muddier when you look at something like E63 compared to N63. The E63 is a chassis, NOT a engine. The E63/64 was made from 03-10, it's the second generation 6 series, either in coupe form or the later convertible. The N63 is a engine. The F13 is a car. The e63/64 is a car. hope this clears things up.
what a smart heat shield to become heat trap. but what BMW engineer think put exhaust side upwards instead dowwards as other factory do. Save space or easier in assembly what ever it is that causes a lot of problems. Yuck
Is this exchange at $3700 still going on? If so, do they replace it with an upgraded newer engine or just a rebuilt N63? I am looking at a 2011 550xi vinC783362 with 98,000 that has a blown engine that I can get for under $4,000. How many hours labor for engine swap? Thanks.
Good technical advice. I will be trading in my '07 335i for something in the next 2 weeks. Haven't decided which one to go with. Either a '14 550i or a '16 340i. Like the F10 because of the roominess and V8 power but like the f30 due to the B58 motor and newer tech. I have a little time (30 days on my loan) so I will be doing more research. Maybe a '15 435i....decisions, decisions.
To do this job properly, any other gaskets or parte I must replace besides the housing? I replaced my crankshaft seal and still leaking from behind the motor.
It is routinely misdiagnosed as a rear main seal. The fix requires replacing all the turbo feed lines (oil actually cakes up inside of them), the coolant feed hoses, and all subsequent gaskets for the exhaust manifolds, and turbos. I also include the crankcase breather hoses, and the turbo inlet ducts which are routinely cracked as well.
Hi Kevin, yes Lynx Star is correct. The turbo return lines leak into the valley, and run out the back side and down the rear main seal. So if you don't know what your looking for, someone will misdiagnose it as a bad crank seal. You have to look down between the many heat shields to verify this. Sorry I'm late to the party.
@@CadexLaw so in your opinion I'm safe to buy a 2009 to 2014 BMW 7 series with the twin turbo V8? Because I'm afraid the turbos will fail on me. I've been looking for a failure rate on those engines but I can't the data.
@@carycoller3140 Turbos are the least of your problems, the N63 issues have been blown a little out of proportion. Just type in the vin of the bmw you are looking at and it will tell you if the recalls have been performed or not (www.bmwusa.com/safety-and-emission-recalls.html) If they have been done you should be fine, along with the proper maintenance being done like oil changes, fluid top offs, brakes, etc. For this particular model it varies from car to car and how well the owner took care of it, but if you do your research like looking at service history, you should be fine. But this is all just one person's opinion and you are welcome to believe what you want.
Also, in 2012 BMW started releasing an updated N63 which can be determined by if the engine has a black cover (try to stay away from N63s w/ the gray cover as they’re the most problematic.) In addition the N63TU came out in 2014 which fixed almost all of the problems with the N63, so if you’re looking at ~late 2013 and above it’s likely N63TU.
Hello Keoki, I just called BMW. For a 2012 550i, BMW North America has 18 engines ready for shipment at $3,723.93. What is the last 7 digits of your vin and I can check for you and get you a part number. Where are you located?
@@fixingcars Hi Guys, I'm looking for a N63 for a 2011 X5 50i - can you advise if BMW North America still has them available for around this price please?
I'm a BMW guy. I have E34 with M50B25 from over 12 years. I want buy a car with V8 engine. What do BMW guy who want's to buy modern V8.... he buys Jag SV8. Greetings from Poland.
They said it's the twin turbos that is definitely producing too much heat and destroying the seals and gaskets on that engine. BMW poorly designed that engine and many more just like it.
Bmw start having too many problems with there engines we already know there engines have oil leaks problem now they doing worse oil leaks coolant leaks timing problems oil burning transmission jerking which is made by GM some models and etc
Saw a young buck driving a 2 to 3 year old top dog M6. His 4 ways were on and dark grey smoke pouring out of the exhaust. I did the same to my S type R Jag 12 years ago. Safe to say their far from bulletproof yet!
Not well versed in this motor I take it. They put out a lot more power at a better fuel economy, lighter and more reliable. Why would any fool do such a swap.
Ive contacted bmw said they cant do anything about my engine issue because i have 120,000 miles and supposedly had a customer care package already done to my replace valve seals,injectors in veh..but it was still leaking oil and messed up rod bearing and main bearings :/
@@Truebleux Really how many miles you have on it and what was the issue? Did you have the customer care package done to it before having your engine replaced?
@@Truebleux Do you have BMW reps name,mine is Carlos Castillo and he's no good. Im in desperate help bro if you can get me your BMW rep contact info would be greatly appreciated!
Rodrigo Cardenas I had 68k miles on it and mine was smoking but even if it wasn’t, all N63 engines are involved in this class action lawsuit. Just go to your local BMW dealership (not corporate) and tell them you want your engine serviced via the class action lawsuit. They’ll search your vin and see if you are eligible. If you aren’t eligible, it’s because someone alrdy serviced the engine but they’ll have a record of that too. Whatever u do though, dont go to BMW corporate. You wanna go to a local bmw dealer as they will bill BMW corporate for the labor/work which makes them money.
Why don't they just stick to durability and reliability instead of these confusing & complicated design which are just ridiculously expensive & unnecessary! Trying to recreate the wheel by damaging it's overall purpose is just stupid! If your going to design something unique or more efficient then stop over complicating things!! Yea it all looks good on paper but in the real world it tarnishes your reputation & reliability!!
I was lucky enough my warranty covered this fix one months before expired
It was roughly $38000 fix 13 hours of labor
I paid $200 deductible
This guy is a BMW Rocket Scientist. Great Video
Thank you so much for filming this!! Huge help! I have these exact symptoms on my X5M --trying to figure out where the leak is coming from.
awesome! thank you! Can you send pics of your leak?
@@nikosougias1298 Where would you want me to send them? I just had the leak looked at at my shop and they said it was the bell-housing --not the oil return. I thought I'd be relieved, but honestly, fixing the bell-housing leak is WAY more expensive. The whole trans has to drop out. fml.
@@patryk996 send to Niko@charliesforeigncar.com
Hi, where do you get these engines at that price? I had a fairly big Google search to no avail =/
Why did the oil fill up in the" base of the valley"weep onto the back of the bell housing
This is why I'm scared to buy a 550 i and a 750 i to many problems I just want to drive it and change the oil not go to a shop every 90 days
As much as BMW incorporates multiple heat shields, heat is still what kills these engines. The valve stem seals become hardened due to the extreme heat from the twin turbos and cat converters. If they could deal with the exhaust heat issues, these engines would be nearly bullet proof.
is there a way to wrap the stuff with exhaust heat wrap? considering a 750i in the future i have a 2007 with the n62 and honestly other than gaskets going every once in awhile its not a bad unit
@@anthonyk Getting more cooling air to the turbos would be the answer. Extracting the heat, rather than insulating it.
@@anthonyk the N62 is better than the N63, at least you will have space unlike the N63 which is a bigger engine with shit tightly packed.
Seems like a silly spot to place turbos. Heat soak must be a serious issue regardless of shields.
Ford did the same thing with the 6.7 PS
Hey Charlie, nice video.
Let me tell you that I'm working on a N63 Twin Turbo 4.4 xDrive 50i, I am reassembling it, but then an issue appeared: I don't know how to synchronize the crankshaft with the camshaft, in other words to put on time the whole distribution.
I'm part of Autodata community and also I have the diagram for the valves setting, but there's no further information which can help me.
I'm wondering if you can help me with, thank you 🙏🏼
So many heat generating components stuffed in tiny little space. I don’t care how many heat shields bmw put in there. It is like putting aluminum foils in the oven separating a bunch of hotdogs. They all gonna be cooked no matter what.
Well said. Running a thermostat with a lower opening temperature will help to increase the lifespan of the engine but that won't nevessarily stop the problems.
Most BMW enthusiastic won't admit that this engine is junk. I don't think BMW are too worried about it either since they discontinuing the V8 line
Yeah….discontinuing since never considering they are pumping out V8’s constantly still in 2022. Misinformed right here. Check out the N63TU3 being sold right now worldwide by the thousands. Yeah….discontinuing alright lol NOT
Hello, How much is the engine now in 2012? Do you have an idea?
Hi is the the BMW N63TU2 Engine? Or TU1? Or no TU?
Sounds like due to the “Hot Vee” design this is an issue. What is the part that fails-a gasket?
Question: is it a common occurrence or a once off?
Mitsubishi cast a series of 12 and 16 cylinder turbo diesel 40 years ago that were very reliable. BMW just cast grenades when they made those p.o.s.
Hi sir, do you know where is the engine number location?
What is the difference between n63, f13, and e63/e64 engines?
Hello Majdi, sorry for the late reply. BMW makes this slightly confusing. Let me see if I can clear it up. The N63 is a Engine: It's a twin turbo V8, made from 2008 until present.
The F13 is a chassis model, NOT a engine. The F13 is a 3rd generation 6 series BMW that was made from 2011-2017, the F13 also means it was a 2 door coupe, the F12 is the same year and body chassis as the F13 except the F12 is a 2 door convertible. The F06 is again the same year as F12 and F13 except it's a 4 door.
It starts getting muddier when you look at something like E63 compared to N63. The E63 is a chassis, NOT a engine. The E63/64 was made from 03-10, it's the second generation 6 series, either in coupe form or the later convertible.
The N63 is a engine.
The F13 is a car.
The e63/64 is a car.
hope this clears things up.
what a smart heat shield to become heat trap. but what BMW engineer think put exhaust side upwards instead dowwards as other factory do. Save space or easier in assembly what ever it is that causes a lot of problems. Yuck
great shortcut! Thank you!
Are these engines as bad as they say ?? Really like a BMW 650 2010 with 25k and I drive only 5k pr year , what do you think ??? Yay or ney
did you go for it mate?
Is this exchange at $3700 still going on? If so, do they replace it with an upgraded newer engine or just a rebuilt N63? I am looking at a 2011 550xi vinC783362 with 98,000 that has a blown engine that I can get for under $4,000. How many hours labor for engine swap? Thanks.
sorry i’m 2 years late, but that 3700 was for the N63’s not the N63TU(2014- newer)
time for an Ls swap. ;-)
Good technical advice.
I will be trading in my '07 335i for something in the next 2 weeks. Haven't decided which one to go with. Either a '14 550i or a '16 340i. Like the F10 because of the roominess and V8 power but like the f30 due to the B58 motor and newer tech. I have a little time (30 days on my loan) so I will be doing more research. Maybe a '15 435i....decisions, decisions.
Stick with the I6 in either car.
1 word about the N63 and S63 series=bomb! Good for a blast and game fucking over!
To do this job properly, any other gaskets or parte I must replace besides the housing? I replaced my crankshaft seal and still leaking from behind the motor.
It is routinely misdiagnosed as a rear main seal. The fix requires replacing all the turbo feed lines (oil actually cakes up inside of them), the coolant feed hoses, and all subsequent gaskets for the exhaust manifolds, and turbos.
I also include the crankcase breather hoses, and the turbo inlet ducts which are routinely cracked as well.
Hi Kevin, yes Lynx Star is correct. The turbo return lines leak into the valley, and run out the back side and down the rear main seal. So if you don't know what your looking for, someone will misdiagnose it as a bad crank seal. You have to look down between the many heat shields to verify this. Sorry I'm late to the party.
@@fixingcars would it be easier to replace engine i have 2011 750lixdrive w 179k love the car starting to leak badly
@@kevinsetzer4346 what did u do...I have near same mileage
BMW should be ashamed. They should build more reliable engines, given then cost of their cars.
Cary Coller they do. This was one bad engine.
@@CadexLaw so in your opinion I'm safe to buy a 2009 to 2014 BMW 7 series with the twin turbo V8? Because I'm afraid the turbos will fail on me. I've been looking for a failure rate on those engines but I can't the data.
@@carycoller3140 Turbos are the least of your problems, the N63 issues have been blown a little out of proportion. Just type in the vin of the bmw you are looking at and it will tell you if the recalls have been performed or not (www.bmwusa.com/safety-and-emission-recalls.html) If they have been done you should be fine, along with the proper maintenance being done like oil changes, fluid top offs, brakes, etc. For this particular model it varies from car to car and how well the owner took care of it, but if you do your research like looking at service history, you should be fine. But this is all just one person's opinion and you are welcome to believe what you want.
Also, in 2012 BMW started releasing an updated N63 which can be determined by if the engine has a black cover (try to stay away from N63s w/ the gray cover as they’re the most problematic.) In addition the N63TU came out in 2014 which fixed almost all of the problems with the N63, so if you’re looking at ~late 2013 and above it’s likely N63TU.
@@CadexLaw good information. I appreciate it. Thanks.
Please put a link for the price of these engines. My local dealer says that this engine is in the $30,000 range.
Hello Keoki, I just called BMW. For a 2012 550i, BMW North America has 18 engines ready for shipment at $3,723.93. What is the last 7 digits of your vin and I can check for you and get you a part number. Where are you located?
Charlie's Foreign Car Service
Last 7 of vin are DV59430 and am in Austin Tx. Car is a 2012 550i
@@fixingcars Hi Guys, I'm looking for a N63 for a 2011 X5 50i - can you advise if BMW North America still has them available for around this price please?
@@fixingcars brand new ?
amaizng idea!!
I'm a BMW guy. I have E34 with M50B25 from over 12 years. I want buy a car with V8 engine. What do BMW guy who want's to buy modern V8.... he buys Jag SV8. Greetings from Poland.
Hello from Encinitas!
They said it's the twin turbos that is definitely producing too much heat and destroying the seals and gaskets on that engine.
BMW poorly designed that engine and many more just like it.
Bmw start having too many problems with there engines we already know there engines have oil leaks problem now they doing worse oil leaks coolant leaks timing problems oil burning transmission jerking which is made by GM some models and etc
Saw a young buck driving a 2 to 3 year old top dog M6. His 4 ways were on and dark grey smoke pouring out of the exhaust. I did the same to my S type R Jag 12 years ago. Safe to say their far from bulletproof yet!
i image if anyone made a kit to swap out and LS they'll sell like hotcakes
Not well versed in this motor I take it. They put out a lot more power at a better fuel economy, lighter and more reliable. Why would any fool do such a swap.
@@MrThisIsMeToo BMW more reliable???.........
@@jackmehoff1840 😂😂😂
You don’t need to pay for a new engine - BMW gives you one for free via the N63 Class Action Lawsuit.
Ive contacted bmw said they cant do anything about my engine issue because i have 120,000 miles and supposedly had a customer care package already done to my replace valve seals,injectors in veh..but it was still leaking oil and messed up rod bearing and main bearings :/
Rodrigo Cardenas I have the same car and BMW replaced mine last month.
@@Truebleux Really how many miles you have on it and what was the issue? Did you have the customer care package done to it before having your engine replaced?
@@Truebleux Do you have BMW reps name,mine is Carlos Castillo and he's no good. Im in desperate help bro if you can get me your BMW rep contact info would be greatly appreciated!
Rodrigo Cardenas I had 68k miles on it and mine was smoking but even if it wasn’t, all N63 engines are involved in this class action lawsuit. Just go to your local BMW dealership (not corporate) and tell them you want your engine serviced via the class action lawsuit. They’ll search your vin and see if you are eligible. If you aren’t eligible, it’s because someone alrdy serviced the engine but they’ll have a record of that too. Whatever u do though, dont go to BMW corporate. You wanna go to a local bmw dealer as they will bill BMW corporate for the labor/work which makes them money.
Why don't they just stick to durability and reliability instead of these confusing & complicated design which are just ridiculously expensive & unnecessary! Trying to recreate the wheel by damaging it's overall purpose is just stupid! If your going to design something unique or more efficient then stop over complicating things!! Yea it all looks good on paper but in the real world it tarnishes your reputation & reliability!!
All BMW become unreliable a hunk of fucking piece of junk
These engines are a mess, surprisingly enough, the S63 is more reliable.
I'd like to argue that, my x6m is giving me fits
@@03mm24 doesn't surprise me.
@@f32_boost52 Aux water pumps, low batt voltage, limp mode, rear air shocks.............👦🔫
@@03mm24 here i am on my 2014 S63 AMG with the 5.5 bi-turbo with over 417,000 Kms with 0 issues. Never buying a BMW/M product ever.
@@fkmbmw yep mine is currently still sitting in the driveway waiting to be engine swapped...it sucks
So
Junk
Shit ass engine. Would've kept my 550i GT if it weren't for this engines issues.
pls I want to no more about BMW