Palestinians: Would you agree to a one state democracy with the Israelis?
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It's an odd question. I would have asked, "Would you support a one-state solution, i.e. a secular, democratic state where Arabs and Jews have equal rights?"
He has asked the Palestinians verbatim that question many times & their heinous answers are deeply indicative of a culture that tragically doesn't understand what democracy even means. Sadly any dreams of an IsralStine are just that dreams. Palestinians for at least the next couple of generations won't be appeased until the sea runs red with the insides of Israeli Jews
A pipe dream.
"Equal rights? Yes. Tehy will be dimmihi, pay jizyah and there is Muslim-supremacy and we are all equals"
No, either two state solution with all the stolen Palestinian land, or the jews live under the Muslim state of Israel. Not the other way around. Muslims have protected the jews and christians for a millelnia....and there was no problem. The problem started in 1948
Arabs have equal rights in Israël, look at yoseph
It seems like at least 50% of the respondents didn't understand the question. They answer it as if nothing has actually changed in the hypothetical proposal.
Its surprising to see a population where the older people have a more progressive opinion than the youth
I suspect that is because of changing times. Older people can more easily remember a time when different religions lived in relative harmony together, but conditions under the occupation have only gotten worse. To the young people, brutal occupation is all they’ve known since they were born
This is a recurring theme in Muslim countries. Constantly radicalizing the youth. The younger the Arab nation the more likely there is to be a civil way or terrorist organization.
@@stavroskassinos7834well said
The younger generation is angry at the injustice and oppression they face, the older generation is just tired of it.
Is it only progressive to be sick of war and death?
Thanks for interesting interviews.
A technicality about working with an interpreter : For clarity it is advised to ask the questions directly to the interviewee in first person (as I hear you mostly do), and the simultaneous interpretation should also be done in first person.
Your interpreter is doing a good job, by the way.
I've always found it weird to hear another person speak as if they wear the person they're translating. To me it's not as clear funny enough. But yeah, whatever lady was with him did a strikingly good job, a lot of times she was speaking back to him while the people were still talking, and yet still getting the point across.
@@FairyCRat That's the way a professional interpreter is supposed to work.
Just for context - the arabic translation of the question was actually are you READY to live in a democracy with the jews. A lot of the people that said no were saying they are not ready to live with their oppressors, and that a lot would have to change first.
That's really important context
Lol that changes the entire meaning of the question. Thanks, definitely important context
It really doesn’t change a lot, as a person who knows Arabic it’s pretty good translation of the original question
I’m sure you know Arabic as well and can agree with me that the translation doesn’t really change the meaning of the question
@@segnos it really fucking does
Pretty disingenuous of all of you, since all of you know that there are no actual democracies in the middle east...
Not to mention that Arabs kill each other, more than Jews....
5:20- Love this guy. “We want peace and a Democracy with the Jews.”
Cory: “How about the younger ones who don’t.”
5:20 guy: “That’s there problem.” 🤣
taqiah....the old guys are good at lying and cant wait to slaughter the jewish israelis
@@chad-mo4npSettlers? Please give me the year the Palestinians lived on this land? Who was their king?
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276Lmao you guys are delusional
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276in Lebanon our family Doctor was a Jewish Lebanese man. We had approximately 45,000 Jewish Lebanese citizens that fled to Israel after the Fillistini invasion.
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276
You do know that all you are doing is repeating the lies of Islam! Name one Palestinian historical figure? You can’t because your 7th century thinking takes you no where.
1:07 this guy doesnt know history. Palestinian Jews were here probably even before his ancestors came to Palestine.
It is good not to have education. Life is easier then. Fewer things to worry about.
Who are his ancestors? Jews that converted? Kanaanites? Aramaics? You probably don't know history. Like that people speaking Arabic don't necessarily need to have ancestors merely from the Arabian peninsula....
3:01 "We want to have a democracy, but they don't want to"
3:05 Corey: "I'm asking you... Would you have a democracy with the Jews?"
3:09 "No"
Hilarious. And this happens commonly.
I honestly don't even know how Corey got through the question without laughing. "When you take back all of historic Palestine" and these people don't even question the premise. Absolute delusion.
1:15 Erhabi that must be deported back to egypt or jordan or wherever the F or 🔫 pew pew these people
Enough is enough
@@evangrey4737 If you think the Jews are colonizers maybe you should open a history book and learn how Arabs ended up in the Levant.
@@evangrey4737why?
@@evangrey4737
Arabs are from Arabia. Jews are from Judea. Remind me again *who* the colonizer is? 🤔🕎
Question is loaded and designed to induce a fiery response. Sensationism.
Pretty disturbing that at 7:40 these women don’t even know the difference btwn Jews and Christians in terms of the effects on the holy land during the crusades. What are they teaching them in school?
Certainly not nuanced thinking.
Tell me what they not know
They are teaching them Islam, and propaganda about Israel, they fill their heads with a lot of hate so the younger generation will fight "The Israeli Occupation" and to refuse peace with Israel unless they agree to leave the land.
They also have after school activities such as throwing stones at Jewish cars and then at the Israeli soldiers who come to prevent them from doing that.
that every non-muslim is an infidel that has less value until they convert to islam
8:44 .. he thinks the ottomans allowed democracy 🤣
I noticed that. LMFAOOO. 🤣🤣🤣. I forgot to mention that.
@@davideskerlot2945 I think it's possible that he doesn't actually understand what democracy is supposed to be
@@tbishop4961 At all. 🤣
@@tbishop4961it clearly means peace and coexistence to him in this context, people don’t actually crave to live under capitalist bourgeois electoral representative oligarchies
@@yansideabacoa6257 you don't get to invent your own definition of democracy 🙄
I noticed a trend where the older Palestinians are more peaceful and less stubborn than the young ones.
I am guessing because you have less hormones as you age and perhaps the innate desire to kill your competition isn't there, or they are just really clever and are saying "yes" as a way to appease the Israelis, and when the Israelis are weak they are going to go in for the kill, as we saw last week
Which is a problem, since more than half of Palestinians are under 18.
As an older person I see this in most cultures.
@@dannabanana52 true, but this is a little different.
@@eduardosuarez2414 well from economic point of view its actualy good.
It's absolutely insane the resemblance of the Palestinians you are interviewing and so much of my family in Israel. Sad so many young people don't want peace.
You get wiser as you age. Oldies have realized by now that its just a never ending cycle of deaths and suffering for everybody & have grown tired of it. The new generations haven't learned that lesson yet.
Hard to blame them considering everything these "peace loving zionists" have stolen from them
@@fortheregm1249 young generation of Palestinians had grew up in schools those education was prepped by religious extremists. At this point there is no solution. Education plays important role and when country brainwashes it's kids country is down for war because when these kids grow up and their knowledge doesn't match the reality the only way for them to address it often ends up being war during which they either succeed by basically killing the other side and making their false reality into real reality or they lose and get to accept the reality as it is. This happened in Russia where older generation grew up in schools that told them that Ukraine is and was forever basically Russia. It's also happening in China where they only are teaching that Taiwan is just part of China and they teach nothing about Taiwan's own unique history passage.
The Jews and Palestinians are very genetically similar
@@bobbobb4804 REAL indigenous jews. Not these euro diaspora white supremacist psychopaths
1:27
There's no peace.
-If there would be peace, would you agree?
-No.
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Jordan illegally occupied the West Bank from 1948-1967; Egypt illegally occupied Gaza from 1948-1967. Why didn’t they create an independent Palestine for their Arab brothers? Because they didn’t care. Jordan also destroyed more than 30 temples, used other important Jewish sites as latrines and desecrated Jewish burial grounds.
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 thanks for not answering the question. Ignore, deny, deflect, evade, etc. Your non answer is your answer - classic.
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 what about the Jews with Palestine passports before 1948?
@@beslanintruder2077 maybe those will stay when we Muslims take the land back again from these European colonizers but all the Europeans will be tortured and deport them to Europe or whatever they came from
@@7135HOLLY you are European colonizer. Saying God gave me this land it is not an excuse and people are not dumb to believe that fairytale. I can also say GOD gave me the world and all of you must leave
There were British Mandate of Palestine passports. There wasn’t an independent Palestine; the Arabs were called of all things, “Arabs” until they were referred to Palestinians in the 1960s. The Palestinians were last offered an independent state in 2008 and 2000, with East Jerusalem as their capital and a road built exclusively for them which would have been a direct link between the West Bank and Gaza and they said NO.
The last guy is a liar, he realized that this is an international interview (something that somehow nobody else did) and went full propaganda mode
8:25
Every single thing he said was a lie. There was never a democracy there before Israel was re-established in 1948. Not during the British rule, and definitely not during the Ottoman rule! Arabs in that land butchered the Native Jews and the Samaritans as well, in any opportunity they had! Thank goodness we have Israel there today!
Exactly
A clear difference between the interviewees here and in the other video is that you don't see racism or hatred, you just see grievances, fear and distrust. And several actually responded yes. Although I the question was should have clarified that it's a one state with equal rights.
Relying on "Equal rights" is a bad framework for justice; it does not redress material wrongs.
The interviewer showed a lot of racist contempt: 8:55 He insisted on referring to Palestinian Jews as Samaritans. That was really weird. Then he insisted that Muslims as a whole did not have peace with the Jews during the Ottoman Empire but then he references violence during 1948. The period of time when Zionists initiated their campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide. That was super weird.
I think he was trying to point out that the Ottoman Empire was not a democracy. Also, in 1948, the displacement of Arabs was due to a war they started in hopes of capturing the entire state. The Arabs lost the war and land.. stop blaming Israel for Arabs being unwilling to accept the existence of the state of Israel.
@@mollyfriedman2013 Zionists started the 1948 war to ethnically cleanse Palestine aka the Nakba. It is a racist lie that Arabs started the war and what's worse you use that lie to justify the genocide and ethnic cleansing that occurred throughout 1947-1948 by Zionists. That lie is as egregious as saying the American Civil War was not about slavery and the North started it.
@@mollyfriedman2013 The 1948 "war" was a racist campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing initiated by Zionists to form a European colony in the Middle East. Denying that is as racist as denying the American Civil War was about slavery. Fix that lie and then we can have a discussion.
I mean there is simply no reasoning with these people. How can anyone stand with palestians when 95% of them never agree to anything proposed?
Particularly interesting episode.
Cory navigates these people's opinions amazingly well without causing them to become aggressive.
Its never gonna happen so its a moot point
Notice the responses from a lot of people from Hebron (Al-Khalil). They seem to not want democracy with the Jews more so than people from other cities. And it’s important to keep in mind Hebron is a city where Jewish settlers literally live on top of Palestinians, and the Palestinians need to have nets above their homes and streets because the settlers throw trash and human excrement at them from above. And the Israeli occupational forces are complicit with this and do nothing to stop it. The main historic street is only usable by Jews, and Palestinians with front doors opening onto the road have had their front doors welded shut and have to take winding detours climbing out windows or back doors to leave their homes. You can look all this up but it’s a fact that this is the situation in Al-Khalil. It’s easy for us to judge them and think that they are evil and bigoted for not wanting democracy with the Jews, but what would you do in their situation? No Israeli Jew would accept this situation for themselves in a million years, and yet we expect Palestinians to grin and bear it and hold no ill-will or enmity whatsoever towards the Jews, and when they do they’re antisemitic or terrorists or both. Just food for thought.
Important point right here.
Maybe because all the artifacts and archeological evidence suggests that Hebron is a Jewish name and city in origin?!
Not to mention that the Ottomans ethnically cleansed the Jews of Hebron in the early 20th century and brought in Arabs from neighbouring countries....
Pretty disingenuous of you to not mention anything other than one sided narratives
Important also to remember that Hebron used to be a mixed city. Jews lived in Hebron for centuries and had property in Hebron for centuries. All the jews were evacuated from Hebron in 1929 after the Arabs committed a massacre and killed about 60 jews. The Brits didn't want to deal with the mess and just evacuated the remaining jews, and the arabs took over that property. After 1967, when the jews could come back, they came back to that property specifically. And if they have more property there now, then it was sold to them, not stolen from Arabs. I never heard about excrement throwing, so won't comment, but I guess if there are jews living there in their restored houses and the arabs won't let them use the road, something has to be done for them to get to their houses.
Holding ill will towards an entire ethnic group and wanting to have a state where you are superior to them is not right, no matter what justification you use. Should Christians hold ill will towards all Muslims because Muslims are treating them terribly all across the Islamic world?
I’ve seen videos of how they living and how they got their front door welded shut and have to pull out a stair and climb down from their own home Im sure even Jews would never accept such conditions
History is a fairytale in their minds 😅
You do actually know the whole land belongs to the Palestinians and not these invented israhell the European converts who came in 1948
You can not change the history my friend.
@@TahominaRokeya Tell that to the Arabs.
@@starhopper1706 haha I am not Muslim. Remember one things wolf and sheep never be friend no matter what. End day wolf come to sheep for hunt. Who is wolf and who sheep i dont care. I only know thats Palestine land. I read the history. They're suffering for Britain and zionist People
@@starhopper1706 that land 100% belongs to Palestinians. These European converts will have to go back to Europe
the result:
5 yes
2 doubt
6 no (could be 7 if the other store clerk also says 'no')
2:33 the only democracy in the middle east where you can't give an opinion. 😅 And the champion of democracy just said "hmmm okay"
Yes, in all the other democracies of the middle east there is great freedom of opinion. Good point.
The man may have been afraid that if he shared his opinion he would have whatever rights he has in Israel taken away
I think from a wider point of view is that younger people generally might not have had children yet but for the older generation, if there's a hope for their younger generation to enjoy peace and the suffering that they endured, as long as it's a fair deal, they are willing to take it whereas young generation are generally thinking from the point of view of injustice being done to their people.
I can totally understand the two schools of thought and as a parent, if I were one of them, I would consider living with them in peace given that there's one state with separation between religion and government. A one-state solution is very plausible as long as both sides don't hold onto the idea that the land needs to be a 'Jewsh state' or a 'Islamic state'. In this country everyone regardless of their belief, should live in equity and people who were forced out from the country should have the right to return.
I know someone on the Isreali side would say, but then we need to share out budget with them. Bro, you helicoptered yourself onto other people's land whose generation traced back to generations back and robbed them off their land, killed their people, refuted them their basic human rights, it's the least decent thing you can do for the Palestinians before you start complaining.
I don't think it's ever possible because there are too much hostilities on both sides against each other and it's not going away anytime soon
Currently, I don't think either side would want a secular state. The Jews want a majority Jewish state by and for the Jews. The Palestinians want a majority Arab state with no Jews.
Your grasp on our history is wrong and you spew lies. Educate yourself
I completely agree with this perspective and at the end of the day democracy isn’t built in one day. The institutions and culture of democracy need to be built up so that future generations can learn to live in peace with each other. It won’t happen overnight. It would be insane as an occupying force to expect that overnight the people you have been occupying are suddenly ready to live in peace and democracy.
Israel should and needs to remain a Jewish state. It’s a decolonization project. That doesn’t then entail adapting your government to include the colonizers.
That being said, Palestinians deserve a state and the occupation is wrong. Israel could make a constitution protecting the Jewish nature of the state so that they could accommodate a large influx of Arabs and Muslims without sacrificing their culture or religion.
Plus they could have programs to help people adapt to the culture and religion of the area.
the brother at 5 minutes in has a very important point,. many may view it as callous to say the problem is passed to the next generation, but he is realistic, but optimistic, and that is so admirable to me, opinions like this give hope for peace, we need a change in leadership in israel in gaza!
Historic what??? you mean if the Brits come back? or what? LOL
What the hell are you talking about?
1. why didnt you ask them when their last election was?
2. why didnt you ask them if they could define what democracy means to them?
3. why did you bring up the concept of 67 borders when there is no such thing....there was a cease fire line with borders to be negotiated, since the arabs refused to accept the un partition
4. why do you continue using the term "historic palestine"....when did that exist?
5. i love the woman who thinks that a democracy means that jews can live with them as long as they pay the dhimmi tax...which means that they dont understand what democracy is
6. guy who says that before the mandate that there was democracy, clearly doesnt know what democracy means and lives with a revisionist history...again, why you should have made sure that all respondents told you what they thought democracy means
The Palestinian leaders declared their independence based on the pre-1967 borders in 1988 why didn't you recognize it yet?
@@blueshirt26Independence from whom?
@@blueshirt26 there are no pre-67 borders. there is an armistice line with borders to be negotiated. those who lose offensive wars of their making dont have the right to declare anything.
and which leaders? arafat, the child raping terrorist? gtfo
@@blueshirt26 "the Palestinian leaders"? Please tell us more
Elections is where they count heads?
The first guy gives me a lot of hope.
Can you say more about your comment about the discrimination against Samaritans? I didn't understand what that was a reference to
Keep in mind many of the negative answers you got in Hebron, where Palestinians are exposted to some of the most extreme settler violence and abuse
Good point! And also to add- some of the questions were worded strangely
Peace !
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respect the first guy,hope he is doing well
The girl at 7:00 was such a curve-ball. For a second I thought she was the voice of reason within the group, and then she began demanding that Jews pay Jizya! She is taking the pre-1947 argument so seriously that she wound up in medieval times 🤣
Well, consider that she had 3 friends showing increasing discord. It might be a bone thrown to them, not her long planned solution. Jizya is unacceptable, but still more acceptable than what the Palestinians have today.
You know for a channel that want to show us both sides with respect the subscribers here are the most toxic i have seen in many RUclips channels. This war will never end, are you all aware of this?
It will end cause Israel is temporary
As far as I can see, the Israelis are so much more advanced and progressive and created a wealthy nation for themselves despite tremendous hardships, that it would be a huge disadvantage for them, while being a huge advantage for the Palestinians, who did nothing much except promote their victim mentality.
General consensus - "WE DON'T WANT PEACE!" Ah well.
What kind of democracy do the palestinians have at the moment with Mahmoud Abbas?
These people don't seem to know what a democracy is.
What city were these interviews done in?
"when you'll have an historic Palestine" (joke)...well the answers are the exact reason why it won't ever happen. These people are not French and Germans who have fight 3 wars since the 19th century until they've decided to make peace, forgive each other, share their ressources and built the European Union together to never fight again. Nope it won't ever happen here. Or not before a very long time. You can't build a future with anger bitterness unrealistic expectations when you don't have the means of your ambitions whatsoever.
Bla bla bla
There might not any (independent) Palestine in the future, but there will definitely be no Israel at all
This happens because they are propped up by other countries.
no such a thing as peace without justice and equal rights. the question was asked in a way that makes them think they will still be subjugated and occupied under israeli law, not posed in a way that makes it clear that israel as a state will be dismantled and one state for all will be made
They also will never acknowledge that they are the colonizers of the land and Jews are indigenous. That doesn’t mean what happened to them is okay, but the people there have been completely brainwashed by Arab nationalism.
you're going to be surprised, all empires fall
I think the problem is the two sides barely interact
does anyone else notice the new cars and paved streets? all of this oppression they talk about and the refugee status, but they have nice cars and new buildings?
Has the same (reversed) question been asked to Israelis, with same framing? Referenced at 3:07-- does anyone have link to the video?
05:11 It's not their problem. It's their education.
Oh, not the Israeli aggression and occupation of Palestine, it's "education"
Could you be any more childishly naive?
@@rxtr664 What is Palestine?
@@tombuddy100 If you don't know the answer to this basic question, not even the best psychiatrists can help you 😄
@@rxtr664 Do you know?
@@tombuddy100 🤣
Don't you have an internet connection? Well, search that sh**, u demented chicken 😂
You should have asked whether they'd accept Jews as equal citizens, as opposed to second-class dhimmis.
All Israelis do not consider themselves Zionists.
War isn't a Solution
Who told you that?
Democracy under ottoman empire?
"What is democracy "?
the 2nd one the translator made a big mistake, she told the guy "part of palestine", he thought she meant a two state solution, thats why he asked him would you agree that seomthing like that happen in canada? he doesn't mean immigration, he means a jewish state being carved out of canada
The delusion of these people not even one bit of self awareness
The delusions go far, far beyond simply a lack of self awareness. They live in a fantasy world.
@@starhopper1706 You do actually know the whole land belongs to the Palestinians and not these invented israhell the European converts who came in 1948
They’re no different than North Koreans. The brainwashing runs deep
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 Nope.
A Zionist talking about Palestinians being deluded ??!! 🤣🤣🤣
WTF IS HYSTORIC PALSTAIN ?
A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
This is a completely pointless question. It's something that will never happen. Genocide is more likely than 1 state for 2 people.
Young people need to learn to forgive and to not seek revenge!
I know it's hard and I'm privileged but it's the only way to be free. Free yourself from hatred. Stop the hostility.
COREY PLEASE ASK THIS QUESTION....WHEN WILL PALESTINIANS STOP GLORIFYING BEING VICTOMS AND INSTEAD TAKE THE NECESSARY(NON-VIOLENT) MEASURES TO SECURE A FREE PALESTINIAN STAT.
How do they peacefully secure a free Palestinian state when they are currently *ruled* by a militant terrorist organization that has been holding onto power through intimidation and violence since 2006? The average Palestinian does not have the power to hold back Hamas without means of force and numbers. The only peaceful solution to this is a one state solution.
they tried that
back in 1993
with rabin
lowest violence ever in the hsiotory of this conflict
the plo had and 85 percent support in the country
unfortunately rabin got assasinated, and netanyahu took over, who had no interest in peace,
the palestinians then viewed that peace wouldnt work since israel sabotaged the deal and the second intifada happened
Welcome to the middle east
🙄
The really odd thing about this is the framing of the question accepts the fundamental premise that what Palestinians have ISN'T a democracy. And you're asking them as if they should be ready and willing to forgive living in their current non-democratic state with Israel as a rhetorical and highly improbable event occurs such as return to 1967 borders or refugees right to return or a one state solution (all of which are unique proposals with their own challenges for all involved)- accept that this is just a bait question to try to catch the Palestinians expressing hesitance to co-exist with Jews as anti-Arab propaganda.
This isn't a sincere exchange, but I applaud those who tried to take you sincerely even though the question is clearly a bad faith attempt to produce propaganda to continue justifying the occupation.
When that woman enthusiastically said yes to sharing. I was like oh cool. Then shes like... with Jizya. 🤦🏽♂️
"historic palestine" is laughable, it should be called historic judea, as that's what it was called to begin with before the romans exiled the jews and brought in the palestinians. palestinians need to learn the history of the holy land a bit better. and jews aren't going anywhere by the way. they are back where they belong too. may they all live together peacefully.
They desire to return under the wing of his majesty King George VI, i guess. LOL
I agree that expecting the jews to leave is laughable. But they don't "belong" there. They have been given the opportunity to form a state were they were historically from since the land was not part of any country at the time. But I hope you agree that forming a country based on a religion is a very stupid idea, and humans in all parts of the world should move toward accepting everybody else with equal rights. Which means when the conflict is over there should be a sensible immigration policy, like most western countries, that lets people in based on a set of objective and non-discriminatory merits.
The conflict is fanned by religious motives and will be going on and even get worse as long as people eternally claim the whole land that's been there for millions if not billions of years for their religion after living on it for a measly few thousand years.
@@amirt825
1.Judaism is not only a religion it is an ethnicity.
2.Every free country can set it own rules of immigration, and my friend in the case of the Jews and Israel it is called repatriation.
@@untitled7184
1. That's even worse! If you base a country on a religion, people may be able to join you by converting. But basing a country on an ethnicity is not much different than South African apartheid.
Modern humans have the tool of science and have thus realized how other ancient tools like your religion and ethnicity and whatnot are shared illusions to help human societies to survive. But we don't need those illusions anymore. So that's why forming a NEW country based on either religion or ethnicity is really stupid. We should move toward integration like the European Union, not segregation.
2. The rules a country set must stand the test of time and prove to help that country flourish. Stupid rules get pushed aside, and the one that actually select deserving people to immigrate to a country remain. That's why most advanced countries share similar criterions.
Repatriation means returning to one's own country. Was there a country 3000 years ago where Jews lived that modern Jews want to return to? Would you support a movement by American Indians to form a country in their sacred lands and repatriate all Indians?
@@untitled7184
The majority of religions correlate with ethnicity, The religions that do not correlate with ethnicity are those that were adapted to serve imperialistic regimes (Easy conversion, convert or die, convert or be second class, males can take war booty and booty wives, the war brings true religion, fighting for God).
Which of the holidays of Jews is purely religious and not related to an historical event, agriculture of the land of Israel, nature of the land of Israel, localities of Israel?
Majority didn't understand the question
Some people here seem not to know what democracy means…in any case Corey, I think you’re threatening their sense of identity with this question, since Palestinian identity is formed around the idea of occupation and war. They wouldn’t know how to define themselves if you just took that away from them, so their answers basically continue this line of thinking.
The young generation will pay a heavy price for there behavior
Backed by western leftists who knows
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 the hole land belong to the jewish people since the time of prophet moses peace be upon him,this is why the jewish called bnei israel
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 the "Palestinians" are m0slim arab nomads from syria,Egypt etc...
They have no connection to this land
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 the israeli jewish are the descent of bnei israel
@@poorindiansanddogsarenotal1276 no matter where the israel jewish come from its there house always, this what gd said
They already have three states all by themselves (Jordan, PLO dictatorship in Judea-Samaria, Islamic State In Gaza), and you're expecting them to unite with Israelis?
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Typical Zionist gibberish
You are delusional, the entire world knows they were relocated from their lands of what is now Israel, who are you even talking to?
@@marcellomancini6646 Let "the whole world" take care of the balastinyans.
@@Tamir-Barkahan The whole world sees you as the oppressor in foreign land, you stole the land just like the british, spanish and portuguese
If Jordan were the Palestinian state it would resolve all conflicts in the region. West of the Jordan River would be Israel and East would be Palestinian. But the English were very bad at dividing the borders. They gave Jordan to a royal family to create their dictatorship. Jordanians and Palestinians are practically the same people.
"will you have a democracy with the Jews" umm what democracy what even the heck are you talking about
Jews have history in that part of the world. They have as much right to be there as Palestinians.
Muslims also have history in Portugal in Spain, then, do we have right to be there ?
@@ObjectiveTruth-zm3hi does islam originate in spain? fucking no. but judaism does originate in Palestine .
@@ObjectiveTruth-zm3hi yes u cud go live there lol in fact im sure there r many muslims living there already so whats ur point
@@levigoldberg901 my point is that most Jews are terr0rists while muslims are not
@@levigoldberg901 muslims do not call children in spain
Usually the English speakers seem more modest, it shows in their will to learn a foreign language.
Language is one barrier in this conflict.
It’s not a conflict, but an occupation. Learn the difference.
@@yurgen5713 Gaza is not occupied last time I read, it has closed borders with both Israel and Egypt, fully controlled by Hamas.
Israel has abandoned it's occupation in 1980's in the West Bank -> there's Israeli law in Area C, Martial law in Area B and Palestinian law in Area A.
Oslo accords gave the Palestinians autonomous control for the first time ever.
"Learn the difference",
I can educate you on this subject.
Thats true..... if israeli je ws would understand ar abic , and what is written and said about them and planned upon them by their neighbours..... this will be all over in 1 month.
no it isn't......
@@farsalami8605 Thank you for your insightful comment.
At 4:31, the subtitles are wrong. He actually said "under our laws and NOT under their laws". BTW, interesting how you chose to open the question with "when", not "if". I guess someone gave you sound advice, since presumably you want to live.
Now here's something i didn't know until it slip the tongue : 09:51 'We have discrimination here in Palestine.' Corey, please ask Palestinians if there's discrimination here in Palestine .
Y’all speak like Israel doesn’t have discrimination 😂they hand towards Palestinians even to people inside of Israel 😂
@@Jayy_sadsure but it’s not even up for debate that conditions in Palestine are extraordinarily worse than Israel and that includes discrimination. The worst is in Gaza, where terrorists run wild and if you dare question them you are killed. The West Bank has terror problems as well, but the PLO also follows Islamic law and so women have no rights, gay people are stoned. It’s just a really sick and awful place to live on many fronts. That being said, most of the every day people are very nice.
I am surprised how patient and friendly these Palestinians
answer these impromtu questions.
Considering that the so called palestinian people in the Shomron and Judea do not live in a Democracy under the thumb of the PA, I highly doubt that they will ever achieve it. They are like their fellow Arabs are too used to a strong man and nepotism. There may be a few Arabs who not only understand Democracy, but desire it as well. But I think they are in the minority. A Democracy is for all people residing in the country. If they prevailed, any semblance of a Democracy would be for them and no other non Arab. Added to this is the curse of their religion, Islam. Islam is not Democratic, for the palestinians to be Democratic, they would have to give up Islam or make it apart from any govt.
It would be absolutely wonderful if we had the Calipha back. Democracy is full of trouble. Look what it did to the middle-east.
There is no such thing as "historic Palestine", Corey.
It's a stupid question because it is very hypothetical and will never happen. The people being asked this cannot picture it. The question itself is trying to frame the issue in a certain way.
Ask them: What is Palestinian identity? We should get interesting answers.
We are Arabs , just like the Arab Canaanites. Btw I'm a Palestinian
@@motasemmkThere aren't Palestinians which are arabs.
There are arabs which lived in palestine.
I say that "there aren't Palestinians which are arabs" because arabs never identified as Palestinians before Israel creation, nor the 50s,
Only in the late 60s when the terrorist yasser arafat tried to rewrite history, this myth was created.
Who can be called Palestinians? Jews.
They identified themselves as Palestinians before the creation of Israel.
@@liron-hazan lol you go back to Ukraine or Russia
Palestinians are a people native to the region of Palestine, they have their own distinct culture, foods, clothing, dialect, and connection to the land.
@@motasemmk The Canaanites were NOT Arabs, they were Levantines. They never new anything about Saudi Arabia.
It's amazing that they can not think about any question that requires visualization. Out of the answers, 8 said *No,* 3 said *Yes,* 1 said Yes with Jizya, 1 said there was a democracy in Ottoman times, and 1 said *Maybe* There will never be a Palestinian state!!
@@jacobrodriguez1150 She is using a new name again. I'll find the name and post it so you can look for her. How are you doing??
@@jacobrodriguez1150 Her new name is *israeljudah555*
@@jacobrodriguez1150That’s nice of you to apologize. Something that is never done online.
Zionist from europe.....ashkenazi europe genetic?
@@anakgembala7253 Yes, Ashkenazi *Jews* are the Jews brought into Europe by the Romans in the first and second century. They moved from Italy to Germany and France and then Eastward. The Ashkenazi Jews have 70% Levantine DNA with Ancient DNA from Southern European Greco-Roman mitochondrial DNA.
The Ashkenazi Jews are Levantine with Ancient Greco-Roman mitochondrial DNA from the first century. They have little to no DNA in common with the people they lived among in Eastern Europe.
Really weird what the interviewer says to the last guy about killings in 1948. Interviewee is very clearly referring to times before Israel and he starts talking about events of the war of 1948? I can't help but feel like interviewer was letting his emotions get in the way trying to disprove him or something when its supposed to be an interview not a debate.
Do they even understand what a real democracy IS??? What it means??
Sorry but Israel took nothing from
Palästina 🇵🇸 were never really free. They own fathers decided to leave under those circumstances. Israel just doing what they have to do. Protecting they people
Still spreading lies. Palestinians were forced at gunpoint or by the terror of many gruesome massacres to leave. Anyway such exits happen in all wars but never in modern times have refugees been prevented and prohibited from returning home. You lack a sense of morality in toeing Jewish supremacist ideology. If Yahweh and Allah are the same God then clearly He changed his mind in the 7th century and wills that the land belong to Muslims as is written in the Qu'ran.
@@lora8546 Nah, they just ran away at the first sign of trouble.
We won't be sorry when Israel is destroyed 😊
@@rxtr664 We won't sorry for you dumbies that you didn't even created your own state when you could do so.
@@lora8546 Again, the Institute for Palestine Studies, an Arab organization based in Beirut stated, *_"68% of Arabs left their villages without ever seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier!"_*
older generation: "enough conflict - let's have peace"
younger generation: "tit for tat"
Until both generations answer in unison, there is sure to never be peace.
Old Jew like Netanyahu is extremeist and younger jews even more extremist, so its over
@@pdsckfhow is your Gaza doing?
It's not like it matters what they want. Their opinion have 0 power. The Israeli state is darwinist.
@@Lateralmove ask israeli who create hammas
I think of they want a one state solution it has to go through a two state intermediary solution. Like the EU. Otherwise there will never be enough support for any type of peace.
The old generation lived next to the Israelis. Israelis used to go shopping in Arabs towns and villages and there were relationships. Once the Intifada started the increasing cycles of violence, came the separation between Arabs and Jews, and the new generation did not get to know one other. They came to know one another only through the conflict and violence, and the hatred grew with the years.
This is an excellent point. Older generations have had more social/professional interactions pre Intifadas. Israeli millenials and younger may have memories of suicide bombings, rammings, rockets, but other wise have not had a connection to Palestinians, unless the were a apart of border patrols, or responsible for a checkpoint, or if they are in a special unit that does raids for terrorists(which even that is such a small sliver of people). Obviously these interactions are going to shape the way people see one another.
i feel blessed to know palestinians and israelis, here in canada most of them coexist together, but most israelis here do not support the settlements near gaza and in the west bank from my experience, i truly believe peace is still possible, but it will take change in leadership on both sides to happen sadly.
Settlements near Gaza?
@@DanBorensthey have many kibbutz near the borders with gaza
@@truthseeker-nv6nyit's in proper Israel 1947 borders. Even if they get Palestine no one would remove the kibbutzes near Gaza. You just showed your ignorance + hatred
@@truthseeker-nv6ny yeah those aren’t illegal settlements and aren’t controversial whatsoever. No one in Israel is against the settlements surrounding Gaza
The "settlements near Gaza" where people were murdered were actually populated almost solely by left wing Jews, many of whom are peace activists.
There is alot of bad blood between the the two sides.
Don't expect to get tolerant answers now.
Hvordan kan de tro , de skal have noget
A lot of people are ignoring the fact that many of the people saying no is a result of how they have been treated by Israel. If you can't see this from their point of view then you're biased in my opinion
but palestine is no more exist
Never did.
Always and forever Palestine 🇵🇸
@@EmmySilentCat
always & forever gone
@BoreOlam1
true free from map from, just like drug free or sugar free, it means gone forever
“Palestinians Dont need a country, they need a Mayor.” - Hassan Yoseph
Ashkenazi from europe...europe genetic?
Mind Begs the Question:
To support and aid an Apartheid State
Democratic,Fascist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
Criminal Islam.
"And you will surely hear from those who were given the Scripture before you and from those who associate others with Allah/Creator many hurtful things.But if you are patient and mindful of Allah/Creator - Indeed,that is of the matters worthy of resolve."
Holy Quran (3:186)
They need far more than a mayor.
This state actually exist within israel right now
But here is the problem: palestinian muslims need to limit their religious fanatics as well proactively in such a state, or else such state will only turn into an islamist one given the fact that muslim palestinians always have high birth rate, which may spell doom to the equal rights and others because islamic mentality worldwide always privilege islam over others and inequal treatment and religious freedom follows, always.
It is when the secular or irreligious muslims proactively held the zealots back despite them using the banner of their religion, like in the case of Albania or Turkmenistan (the latter is a dictatorship, i know, but his iron fist and active intervention to repel islamist influence in his country led to the country still holding on to secularism) will secular-equal rights-religious freedom values follow. The irony here is that to maintain such religious freedom, you have to restrict Islamist movements, which 100% will made cries like 'this is religious oppression and freedom' despite having no favorable intention towards those very values being hypocritical in their actions. But still, if you want the religious freedom - equal rights not only by name to exist, islamic influence need to be partially restricted, again due to the religion's nature itself
Im just wondering how those places look now today
Historic Palestine = Imaginary Palestine 😂
Who are your ancient Palestinian Kings and Generals?
Its irrelevant that Jews had a country thousands of years ago.
Just like Rome had lands long ago, its in the past.
Palestinians were there in much larger numbers before people from other places removed them.
@@bunjijumper5345 The Romans technically no longer exist as Romans. Even their language (Latin) and all of their pagan religions are dead. But the Jewish people still exist. Their Hebrew language still exists, and their religion still exists. Their culture still exists. Which is why they are back in Israel & their capital, Jerusalem. 💁🏻♂️. The Roman legacy ended, while the Jewish legacy continued and still exists today. 😉
@@bunjijumper5345 Name an Ancient Palestinians King or General?
@@davideskerlot2945 Israel wasn't a country for a long time, and people moved there or accepted Islam, and Christianity, so its irrelevant.
@@davideskerlot2945 It only exists because you purposefully stole land from people who were living there.
There are many religions and ethnic groups without homelands or countries.
Nothing I can saw with make you look at this fairly.
The one state solution is a one state illusion.
There is only one state solution. One Israel. Palestinians aren't even able to establish well working authorities for themselves. Overall Arabs could live a much better life within Israel if they wouldn't be so winy and aggressive.
look at Singapore, the other so called "Israel" in SEA surrounded by muslim countries. Singapore is originally part of Malaysian Federation but broke away and declare independence. If the muslims in Singapore can live in peace with everyone from other races, why cant the Palestinians and Jews do so ? they could have much a better future and progress towards 1st world country had they not adamant on killing each other.
Did any one ever explore the possibility of a 2 state republic?
The British gave the Arab Hashemites 77% of the Mandate lands to become trans-Jordan, leaving only 23% to become the Jewish state. The Arabs were offered another state, 5 times, from the 80% of the land offered in 1939 Peel Commission, to the Entire West Bank with ½ of Jerusalem and land transfers for any Jewish communities kept as part of Israel. Each one of the 5 offers turned down!!!
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All true, however every single Israeli government ignored the 1920 lines, and never bothered to challenge the "palastinian" hoax, or th UN lies,
so at this point the any practical path would include the presence of the "arab plestinian nationality"
@@yosikama2611 Why? They should send them all to re-education camps, teach them about the ties of the Jews to the land, and also that about 30% or more of the Palestinians are descendants of Jews that they wish dead. When they accept the truth, that Jews come from Judea and are not Khazars, or European Pagan converts, then there is a possibility for peace.
Many, many times. However, each peace talk one side always backed away. The most recent we had was in 2008, which proposed giving all of Gaza and almost all of the West Bank back minus 6% where the largest Israeli settlements remained. In exchange 5% of Israel’s land would be given to compensate. All settlements would be withdrawn. And infrastructure would be built to connect Gaza and the West Bank and would be considered Palestinian territory. Abbas walked out of the room during the proposal and there was never a second talk.
The absurd is that they live in Judea and Samaria, which is Jewish Land and pretend we stole "Palestine".
I am not suprised that the younger Generation says no hamas whants them on their side for their Propaganda
I'm not surprised you're THAT clueless
this was a good question, at least to those who answered no. get their hopes up and hopefully a little later they realise, nothings gonna happen. they will still be palestininans, crying for their so called land.
So what? Israel will be dismantled eventually, after all
@@rxtr664 probably
@@talsingh451 with respect sir, they will never truly be peace in Israel unless both Jew and Arab put their trust in YESHUA HA MASHIACH (ie Jesus THE MESSIAH/CHRIST) for it is only by this faith in YESHUA HA MASHIACH that will set us free from the lies of this world and make us born again to truly love one another instead of fake love for one another and truly have peace within ourselves that no one can take away and have Eternal Life when leaving this life. this can only be experience by faith in YESHUA HA MASHIACH. for HE IS The Way, The Truth, and The Life and no one gets to GOD (THE FATHER) except through HIM
Democracy, yeah not just on papers. But on reality. So when you set the rules and write the law this should involved all despite of their race or relegion.
Democracy. The hallmark of ar ab culture.
why not just offer us all the videos in files of 2 hours worth of all your you tube videos with a breakdown of like 5 subtopics included with the files
Post October 7 the “I’m anti Zionist not anti Jewish” demarcation is done.