Arab Israelis: Should all Palestinian refugees return to Israel?
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My grandmother was sent to Auschwitz in 44 from a little town in northeast Hungary. When she returned, the house’s new owner threatened to arrest her.
But it would be a little weird if I showed up today and said “it’s mine now.” Especially since I was born 40 years later.
But the Palestinians do not have the deeds to the house when the Jews came to take the houses back.
most palestinians that live outside of historic palestine don't have rights there. it would only be fair if they go back to their homeland. if giving back that property that was taken is not possible, at the very least the government would subsidize housing for them as a way of reconciliation.
True. But it would also be a little weird if Hungary told you that you could not live anywhere in Hungary.
That is delusionally false, they are all Arabs and every Arab country sucks anyway. Everything good was built by the Israeli people, the Arabs do not have any "homeland". They are wide ranging people from Morocco to Persia@@MZein-gs5gg
@@barnhib Who told her that she could not live in "Hungary" ??? Don't extrapoliate.... i read here such untrue comments that they become insane.
Following that logic, it’s ok for the 850, 000 Jews who were expelled from Arab states to return to their country of origin with their extended family.
Yes, of course. And they are already coming back. At least in Morocco.
They weren't expelled. Many left because of attack done by Israel
Which one of them would like to move to a 3rd world dictatorship where non muz are 4th class citizens?
@@muhammadedwards8425Arab countries forced thousands to leave. not even letting them take their belongings with them
@@Zane70K Most arab countries did not. Iraq for example was were Israeli spies bombed Jewish areas so that they would leave
The translator at 9:40 is very argumentative and tries to get the answer he wants instead of hearing what the interviewees have to say
Yeah he was kind of pushing something weird about the Palestinian authority
Agreed. But should have been clear in the question. ROR under isreal vs. palestinien authority is a different question altogether.
@@amalvila Not really. If there is ROR, with voting rights, the majority will be Arab and they will turn the government into some version of the PA with all the corruption included. They will use the very own democracy against itself. And if they don't have voting rights there will be unrest until they get those. In the end the country will revert to Palestine (probably even change the name).
The fact that they can say this openly speaks volume of democracy in Israel whereas its not possible in Islamic countries
Sure, democracy. They love democracy so much that they ordered American politicians to crack down on pro palestine protests 😆
A real free speech loving government in Tel Aviv and DC
Democracy?😂😂
@@user-ut7bx7fy2m youre slow arent you
If they speak out against the war in Gaza, they'll find out real quick how much of a democracy Israel is.
Corey should have a one-on-one extended interview with the last guy in the bookstore; seems like he has a lot on his mind.
I agree. Intelligent, articulate and gay! I've seen Corey's interviews with Israelis about gay and lesbians and I was struck by how accepting most of them were. Yes, Corey, please give an extended interview to the fellow in the bookstore!
would love to hear more about his perspective of living in israel really intereseting!
Why aren't "refugees" allowed to leave the camps in whatever country they are in and become citizens of that country?
. Shani, this person was complaining that the Arabs who left, were not allowed to become citizens of the states they fled to. They said nothing against Israel or Jews, if the Arabs had been allowed citizenship in 1948, 1967, and after, there would not be many of the issues we see today.
By keeping the Arabs stateless, the world blames Israel for something it never did. Most "Palestinian Arabs, left willingly on their own, with smiles on their faces thinking about returning in a week or two after Israel and the Jews were destroyed.
@@shainazion4073not only citizenship. They are also prohibited to work in some works
Arab lack of decency.
@@l_kFF In which countries?
I'm from Spain in reality no one left also the house of the real Judah and epraim.. sense the hiscos time ... Who left was 2 groups from the help of house of Alba , like meimonedis and other groups of the Greek comverted descendants that when taken to Babylonian exile rabinicals .. and some KARAITES , both when to Egypt. And fr there some rabinicals scholars to south french and south Itali and south of Spain 🇪🇸 . Don't believe what ROME AND GREEKS TELLS YOU ..
Ben Gurion begged the 75k arab residents of Haifa not to leave he called the British high command to negotiate but no they said the arab league told the to leave
He also sent Golda Meir to Haifa, the British police report is the evidence. The early Jewish leaders appealed to the Arabs to stay in their houses and help them create a country together. There reaction was to attack the one day old country of Israel.
If he really didn't want them to leave so badly, why didn't he invite them back after the war was over?
@@Discoursivistwhy should somone invite into his own country people that have joined it enemies?
Are you being re tarded on purpose?
@@dogbert52 "Joined the enemy?" These are families who fled for their lives! You invite them back because it is their homes and you have no right to steal their homes...Basic human rights, you can't just kick people out of their homes because they fled during war.
@@Discoursivist ask why because the arab league promised them that they would get all the jews wealth and property when they drive the jews into the sea A fifth Colum we didn't need the 5000 that stayed are fully enfranchised so don't paint them whiter than white they were blood thirsty
Marrying first cousins causes lots of issues, my grandparents were first cousins and the issues we face extends to me and my generation, it should stop.
@@Bigworld-lx5ly possibly my grandparents did, but our family hasn't had brilliant health since.
@@Bigworld-lx5ly I hope you and your family live very healthy lives.
Really? I married my second cousin, to keep our family wealth. There is no problem, ever. Touch wood….. !
Well, what is the problem with the marriage of cousins, when Jews marry their relatives?
@@closed1162 my grandparents were cousins, shall we say there can be mental and physical issues, this to me is not about religion.
Bruh... that one guy was really like Jews can be here peacefully. They eat hummus. They just aren't allowed to buy land here...
And? Did Knesset not just pass a law that allows communities the right to reject Palestinian ppl that want to live in them? Try again.
@@PrincessDay-yk2he What law?
@@guyeshel9316 The Acceptance Committee Law. They wanted to segregate against Arabs living their West Bank communities but when the supreme court struck it down, they introduced this bill in 2011 and keep expanding it as a loop hole.
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The woman said after 14:00 that before everyone lived together, but not as equals ever in,a Muslim country
NTM the living part of "living together" was sometimes terminated...
Yeah, an opinion that shows you don't know anything. Jews can live well in almost every muslim country
Many Arabs have a really good soul but are very navies.
@@guyeshel9316 naive? Navies?
which country do people live as equal? Rich and poor exist everywhere. Before law both a Jew and Muslim face equality and got justice
Golden age of Jews were under Islamic caliphate were they were dhimmis (protected people)
Next question: if your refugee relatives come back and want to split the family lands with you, do you still support the "right" of return?
How about if a bunch of deranged European nazi types said that your house is theirs because God gave it to them 3500 years ago. How about that?
@@LeagueofLore-z3wWhat area was this? lands given to israel by the UN or the land stolen from the Palestinian arabs by Jordan
@@LeagueofLore-z3w As soon as the arabs give back the lands they have taken from the Jews of Gaza in 1929. Recognize the right of the Jews to the houses and land they lost in Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria in 1948
it's funny how every Palestinian family was kicked by force, even though most of them chose to flee the country during the war mostly because of the Arab League
calling them to flee@@LeagueofLore-z3w (not speaking about your family specifically )
@@LeagueofLore-z3wland belongs to the state, not random people. Your mentality is completely false: nobody ever owned all that land.
In your mind it was owned against other people of similar origin, the village custom. Nobody else has to believe or respect that, it's unreal
Good interviews! Really.Not the bombastic propaganda stuff...just average people in a quiet environment speaking their thoughts. ❤
Harvard-trained historian Howard M. Sachar writes that from 1922-1946, 100,000 Arabs entered the country from the surrounding lands[1]. Winston Churchill added that, "[d]espite the fact that they were never persecuted, masses of Arabs poured into the country and multiplied until the Arab population grew more than what all of world Jewry could add to the Jewish population."
[1] Howard M. Sachar, A History of Israel, Alfred A. Knopf 1996, p.167
Many of the Jews also came "from the surrounding lands." Some actually walked there. "The surrounding lands" have always played an important part in the history of the region.
@@edwinlucianofrias1643
Jews people were in surrounding lands for centuries (part of the divine mission), but home always was Israel.
That was the problem.
''Harvard trained historian'' 😂😂😂
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 Yes but few of the Jews were not in the "surrounding lands".
Love your channel brother I think you doing great jobs .respect and love from England +kurdistan ❤
We Jews love the Kurds!
We love you too God bless israel 🇮🇱
kurd are 🤡
I like the new into Corey.
Marrying your cousin and that over centuries is a very bad idea.
That’s why there is deformity in some Muslim societies. We see it in some of their countries where they are always involved in wars
LMAOOOOO There is literally a fucking disease that only Jews have because they only fuck within their families en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay%E2%80%93Sachs_disease
How dare you fucking consanguineous
@@dee74raz
And, do you think they even care if it's or not a supposed (and, I quote it) "good idea" as you yourself said!??!!! 😏
Do you really think so??!! 😂 😂 😂
They totally give a FUCK If it's a "bad idea" or not, if it's wrong or not, as long as they keep their family money, interest and business deals 💰 bombing 🤑 💲
Arranged marriages - it's all about money, buddy!!!! 😉
(not God's fearing people, definitely!!!) 👎🏻 🤢 🤮
@@JewFromIsrael55522
Honestly, My comment was for Arabs, from the 03:42 minutes Untill 04:20 minutes in the vídeo, but, if you say that you Yahudi are like Arabs, well.........
What can I say!!??!! 🤷🏼♀️
It's all rubbish 🗑️ 🤢 🤮
Gladly, I'm Christian and I'm not interested in marrying a non - Christian neither. Now I understand why.... 😒
@@dee74raz The most prominent genetic disease are in Jewish communities though lol.
If Israel ever allows the right of return it will become Marseille and then Lebanon in 1980.
It will actually be worse than that because Israel is surrounded by Arab and Muslim countries.
@@yellowfish555 nothing is worse than what Lebanon has become, trust me I’m originally from there.
@@HHH99ob yes, it is mainly the Fillistini that destroyed Lebanon but I also blame the Lebanese Government for allowing them to enter the country in the first place and agreeing to giving them Autonomy of the Zbale Camps and the lack of loyalty to the Country by Lebanese Citizens.
The Fillistini War with everyone and anyone is fair game to them even their hosts in Jordan and Lebanon
@@HHH99ob watch Road to War Lebanon 1969 by the BBC to know what the Fillistini Terrorists were doing to Lebanese Muslims in the South and the Lebanese Army.
They were killing Shites in the South to have access to the border.
In the village of Damour nearly 600 Lebanese civilians were given the BL@DE, no survivors including babies.
Girls as young as 9 were kept for a few days to be @BU$ED before being dispatched and Arafat arrived a few days later for a victory parade.
It’s still on the internet and it happened before Chatilla. The truth is they were guests that became tormentors something that is frowned upon in the Middle East. A guest must respect the host, be humble and appreciate being looked after.
Today they’re killing each other in the Camps.
@@kaus3587 delulu alert
Around the 3 minute mark is ironic because there are in fact some Arabs who buy homes in Caesarea
Last guy is really conflicted. They’d throw him off the roof
If he knows that will happen, he should not even have responded to the questions and excused himself. If the Arabs win, they will hunt him and down and others like him. He is not being smart.
I am confused about the Gay community in Israel on one hand, they crow about how open and liberal Israel is and on the other hand , they say the opposite. Of course, Israel is not perfect, but compared to our neighbors, the sterling examples of liberal, enlightened people...Israel is by far much better. My only complaint about the Gay, etc community is that I have to hear about it so much. I have no interest what they do sexually and to be fair, the same goes for straight couples.
1:03 both heads rotating to the side with the answer cracked me up
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Let's ask the Lebanese if letting millions of Palestinians into your country is a good idea? 💀
Lebanon literally treats them like absolute shit, plus Palestinians are not from there, they're from Haifa and Jaffa, so this argument makes no sense. Also why didn't you use Jordan as your example which has a bigger Palestinian population than Lebanon, including their queen. People of Palestinian descent in Jordan hover around 60% of the population. They're literally the most stable country in the region, and are the second Arab nation to have a peace agreement with Israel. Your staunch xenophobic prejudice is showing.
Funny with the Jabotinsky profile pic lol
@@SirEnzo371 Why? Can you explain?
@@killaram613people with saudi , jordanian and egyptian surenames are from those countries. Not jaffa or haifa.
Good. @@ShaniHodia-bo8yg
Corey, nice work. Diverse group of people. Of course I always enjoy the clickbaitably cute one in the blue shirt❤ good question regarding homophobia. Of course, editorially speaking, I would counter, just because there may be a prevailing homophobia in one culture, should not mean that that cultures demands Fred respect, human rights, etc. should be disregarded
Until 1967 before Israel reclaimed Yehuda and the shomron it's a little know fact but there was actually world peace and everyone lives until 1000 years old
Lol, imagine if there was a "Hebrew league" of 22 Jewish states and the Jews were complaining that the one tiny Muslim country must also be Jewish. No.
There's Israel and there are the Arab states. Anyone who doesn't want to live in the one Jewish state can relocate to Arab lands.
80 years ago Israel didn´t exist. You went there and said that the land belonged to you. Neighbouring countries complain not because of the regligion, but because the people who were living there before were expellled.
@@anttongudari1763your boyz lost their genocidal war. And now you dont want to live with your pastalini ar ab settlers so you push them onto israel
That is a weird way to look at it. Imo, there are three main different issues/conflicts. There is conflict between Israel and other Middle East states. Most of that has quieted down. Israel has cold peace with Egypt and Jordan and is at this point negotiating with Saudi Arabia.
Then there is the conflict with Israel and Palestinians.
Then there is tension between Iran and Israel. A number of Middle East states are willing to work with Israel because they see Iran as a bigger threat.
Lebanon has treated Palestinians refugees as dirt. Kuwait expelled tons of Palestinians in the 1990s. There are many other examples of Palestinian not being wanted and Palestinians dream of their own state. The reverse mirror of your line of thinking is Jewish Israelis should be expelled to Europe.
Just because they are Islamic does mean they see themselves as being part of the same nation.
@jimwaxer8166 I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but allow me to further explain my line of thinking.
The reason why a "Palestinian" identity is illegitimate is because it's directly related to Arab colonialism. The only reason we have an Arabic speaking, Arab Muslim population 1,000 miles away from where the religion/language originated is because Muslims invaded and colonized what is now Israel in the 7th century. Palestinians are simply the descendants of those settlers who came during Muslim rule, primarily after Salah Din's conquest. They aren't native to the land.
Jews are native to the land because they're descended from the Hebrew speaking tribes that were exiled by the Roman Empire.
Now, just because Arabs came through imperialism doesn't mean they should suffer or be treated unfairly. I strongly support their fair and equal treatment, an integration into Israeli society. What I have a problem with is the "Palestinian" nationality itself.
It's like asking the question, do Russians in Kazakhstan have a right to establish a Russian state in Kazakhstan? Much like Arabs, Russians came to Kazakhstan because Russia invaded. Russians are 20% of the population, and the majority in huge parts of the country. There population is also equivalent to Palestinians in the territories (3 million each)
But no one would suggest Russians have a "right" to a "Russian state" inside of Kazakhstan. They can live in Kazakhstan, or they can move to Russia. The same is true for Arabs in Israel. Assimilate as Israeli citizens or relocate to Arab lands. End of story.
Israeli is also an inclusive nationality. Most groups in Israel, not just Jews, consider themselves Israeli over Palestinian (Druze, Maronites, Assyrians, Circassians, Samaritians, about half of Bedouin clans, etc.)
@@anttongudari1763 90-100 years ago most of the nowadays countries in the ME didn't exist.
And the Jews offered the Arabs peace, they rejected it. Only after that the palestines became refugees and many of them left by their own will.
there were approximately 700,000 Palestinian arabs were called refugees in 1948. That number INCLUDES those that left on their own encouraged by arab countries telling them to leave so it would be easier to kick out the jews. Theb they can return afterwards. As of 2021 there are almost 7 million. Palestinian arab are the ONLY group on the history of a legal refugee status, the obly one who has that status passed on from generation to generation.
Also what of the hundreds of thousands of jews who were kicked out of arab lands after 1948. How come they dont have that status? Where is their right to return?
500,000-700,000 Arabs fled to Arab countries from Israel and became refugees.
900,000-1,000,000 Jews fled from Arab countries to Israel and became refugees, their descendants make the majority of Israelis.
You don’t hear about the refugees who fled to Israel, Israel has absorbed those incoming refugees, while the Arab countries for the most part did not, they use them as a political tool (a common cause, a unifying topic, a diversion from poverty, poor health care, poor education and corrupt governments).
First guy was good, surprised by positive answers.
Is it just me or is the sound quality severely degraded? A little bit of noise cancellation is ok but this audio is completely squashed.
@8:50 that is the most greek looking arab I have seen in my entire life hahaha
so many mixes. He does look Greek lol, most likely Egyptian.
Palestinians are Jews. Stop spreading false claims you have no proof of, just your racism. We are more Jews/Hebrews than the European ones.
@@madcatter1it is the fucking holy land, Palestinians are the descendants of all the people that fought, settled and lived in this land until israel was born
At 14:00 the woman says that people should be able to return to where they were born, these "Palestinians" were not born in Palestine, but in Jordan or Syria or America.
Hmmm, absolutely not. My grandparents were born in Jerusalem their parents were born there and my father was born there.. what you gonna say birth certificate is falsified?
Not all of them though. Most of the so called "Palestinians" immigrated to the land during the 19th century
@@purel0ve87 Not at all, they are talking about Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, not those living within Israel/Palestine,
Thats part of pastalini parasitism....... a cult of theft
Just like the news came from Europe? Palestinians have Jewish dna. What do you say about that
The logistics here are very interesting. They say people will return to their land and their houses. But even the language is different there now, the people who live there are different. The Jews hold most of the economy, higher education, etc. Will they learn hebrew to fit in and agree to coexist with the jews? And those houses aren't there anymore, say a returnee discovers there is a road where the house used to stand. Or a university or a prison. Will they take money in return and agree to rent an apartment in a place that has no connection to their heritage instead of the ancestral house? Because then they are just second-class citizens in a country that will be very-very expensive, without language and profession, not that different from Lebanon. And what about the Israeli Arabs that took over the property of those who fled/were expelled, in their towns and villages? They will have to leave these houses as well? And what about these (i suspect, many) Palestinians who cannot prove they owned a house or never actually owned anything in Palestine, will they remain in Lebanon? many questions :)
"I'm a stirrer. that's what I do." ❤
I watched the episode with the Druze and I admire their perspective so much. If the whole world would be just as loving like them, we can live together in peace without borders.
problem is that most of these so called "refugees" are born outside of Israel. and the whole discussion about refugees is one way. no one talks about the million eastern Jews who were thrown out of the Arab countries following 48 who lived in camps for years but eventually they moved on just like the Palestinian "refugees" should move on.
Born outside? Its not like most israelies who are 90% 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants from Poland, Germany, Morrocco, Yemen and Iraq were born there.
@@brianzar1943 That's a fair point but here's the difference: no Jew is asking to return to the exact latitude longitude coordinate where his family once lived. Jews are happy to return to an area in the general vicinity, in a place which there is Jewish sovereignty. So I ask, why is it so outrageous to ask a Palestinian refugee to live 4 or 5 kilometers east of the exact latitude longitude that he claims his great great grandfather lived, and in a place where there is Palestinian sovereignty? Doesn't that make much more sense logically?
@@trollnerd I don’t think it’s outrageous to ask Palestinians to live within 5kms of where their families came from. However, israel refuses the core idea of Palestinians returning regardless of its 5 km or 50.
@@brianzar1943 You're quite wrong about this. The idea of teh Palestinian right of return is "I'm not home unless I'm living on the literal property that I claim is my family property". They could be living NEXT DOOR and they'd say they're "not home" as long as a Jew lives in the place that they claim is theirs. The right of return isn't and never has been about refugees "returning home" because if it was they'd be fine living in Nablus. It's about displacing Jews and modifying Israel's demographics to the point where Israel's democracy can be used to permanently eliminate Jewish sovereignty. It's such an obvious ploy.
@@trollnerd unfortunately you revealed yourself and your agenda now. Remember what goes around comes around, and what you did to the Palestinians will be reflected against you one day.
Seeing that current Israelis arabs as well took the houses of the arabs that fled will they be willing to give them their lands and houses ?
That’s a very good point. I’m guessing NO.
Did they?
Now ask should the Egyptian, Iraqi, Syrian, Yemeni, Libyan Jews be allowed to return? If they left the territories problems will go away? They left Gaza and look what happened.
They should be able to return, yes same applies to the Palestinians.
Moroccan Jews can and they would eventually in Iraq. I doubt it will happen anytime soon as most of these people want to stay in Israel..
None of us want to return to those lands. We are quite content living with political independence.
If they are Jews they have a right to return
No they are Palestinian and they have the right to return to their homes.@@saftabracha1140
The woman at 14:00 saying that people should be allowed to return to the houses in which they were born, evidently does not realize that the vast majority of "Palestinians" are living in the houses in which they were born. Those houses are in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan.
In 2000, Arafat was offered a peace deal, which included the return of 1948 refugees who had not engaged in acts of violence against Israel. In 2000, it was estimated that there were 10,000 "Palestinians" who would be eligible. Because of their advancing ages, each returning refugee was to be permitted to bring one relative, as a care giver. The peace offer included a Palestinian capitol in a Jerusalem suburb and a ton of US development money. Arafat did not respond to this offer. He went home and started the second intifada, instead.
The Palestinians spent the past 70 years attacking Jews. That does not entitle them to what the Jews built, while fighting them off.
1:00 - 5:30 fascinating conversation
8:34 for a moment, i thought he was Simon Cowell
איפוא שיש מוסלמים יש בלגן. שוודיה פריז גרמניה אוסטרליה ועוד.אז תתכוננו לעזוב למה אין פיתרון איתכם
זה עצוב מאוד אבל אני חושב שאתה נכון.
I wish there would be more discussion of the nuance with regards to the implications of trying to integrate a refugee population from a few active warzones. as well as the implications for the national identity of palestinians with regards to secularism and religiosity
@@ShaniHodia-bo8yg את גרה בסרט
Yes. I don’t see how it could possibly work to integrate millions of Palestinians refugees into Israel. The great compromise for peace when leaders are in power that sincerely seek peace is Israel will have to allow Palestinians to their canyon East Jerusalem and Palestinians will have to accept only a symbolic right of return and Palestinians refugees would be able to return to the Palestinian state based on the 1967 lines and be compensated.
Let all the secular Palestinian women have citizenship and push their honour murdering religious schizophrenic males out into Egypt. With their new freedom they would become loyal Israeli citizens.
Palestini people come back there home kick then Jews out of Palestine ❤🇵🇸
they are religious and don't want secularism, secularism is poison to society
The best thing that was in this channel for me that it was with no music ,now this seems more like a show I will stop watching 😢
You should do a video asking yellow people (Kaifeng and Kobe) about balancing being Jewish and Asian.
"If you don't bother the arabs, they don't bother you"... Ask the jews or other indigenous minorities in the 22 different arab countries
You can't
TAKIYYA ARABS::::::))))))))
then how did they exist in 22 arab countries prior to establishment of modern israel?
@@goobin9125 As second class citizens "dhimmis" that were massacred if the Arabs had the wrong mood.
LOL how many of the 1 million Jews still live in Arab countries? They bothered us in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan , robbed us and made us flee.
The Arabs have ethnically cleansed 899/900th of the greater Middle East.Israel occupies 1/900th and has 20% Arabs as full citizens. Maybe if the 899./900th allowed Jews equal rights, property ownership and the rights of return in safety? Then we can discuss the 1/900th that Israel sits on
Sure yeah.
"Anahnu bnei Enosh" ?
Isn't the expression "bnei Adam"?
Is he Druze, perhaps?
It is just incredible how every time Arab Israeli come to the stages they show such a clear comprehensive view of this conflict. On one hand they support and love their palestinian brothers, but they also have a clear understanding on reality and what are the prices for dimocratic society if you are giving power to the palestinian movement these days as it is now.
It's easy and "patriotic" for them to say yes to the right of return. But their ideology blinds them to what would happen. The Jews would lose majority, the country's system would change, the benefits of democracy would be gone, the material benefits they have would disappear. The country would be a bigger West Bank/Gaza where the PA or worse Hamas would steal the money they are donated from the UN and other organizations. They would be warring with each other (the PA, Hamas) and oppress the Jews, which would have to also pay Jizya, if they could stay at all. We would go back to 1946-47, with a new Mufti of Jerusalem and new Arab revolts because they want their lands back and because the Jews are wealthy and evil. Can you just picture this. No way Israel is ever going to allow that after so much sacrifice and blood. First I would drop a nuke.
@Rachelforpeace1Hello Rachel I'm Indian jew can I make aliyah to Israel ?
@Rachelforpeace1 why is that? I thought all Jews around the world ( both ethenic and converted) have right to return to Israel 😕
Boker Tov 😊 And A Blessed Shavuah Tov Chaverim From Judea and Samaria: The Biblical Heartland of The Nation State Of The Jewish People, Israel 🇮🇱.
Judea And Samaria Were The Home To Ancient Jewish Communities Before Islam And Christianity.
And Palestinians are Jews that converted to Islam. That still makes them ethnically Jewish.
@@PrincessDay-yk2he
The Palestinian ID was invented in 1964 by Arafat.
They are Muslims.
@@Linda43this account has been spamming that lying copypasta all over this video comment section
In my opinion, there are only 2 possibilities:
Case 1: 2 separate states with mutual recognition, a demilitarized zone "x" kilometers of both sides, a peace treaty, UN troops as neutral security of the border.
Case 2: 1 common state, voting rights for all with own politicians from both sides with common parliament.
Feel free to let me know what is your opinion or a better proposal that is good for BOTH sides.
Case 2 isn't possible.
@y.l7455 why?
@@hehejo8568
Two different groups of people with different values that also "don't like" each other? No.
@@hehejo8568 because arabs be like, bring "back" 7 million "palestinian refugees", now we are the majority, and now we decide to kick the jews/become the 23 rd arab country and the 56th muslim country
unfortunately, both of your proposals are unrealistic, and will ultimately lead to the destruction of Israel:
first scenario: Israel annexes the WB (but not gaza) and grant citizenship for the people there,
note that the PA wouldnt allow the people there to vote in free elections because they would definitely vote for Hamas - then they would use the democracy to dismantle it and massacre the jewish population. In "the best case scenario " they would vote for separatist Arab parties that currently represent the Israeli Arabs in the Knesset and Israel will become Lebanon 2 with constant civil wars and political deadlock and unrest.
second scenario: once Israel withdrews from the WB its a matter of days before it will be overtaken by Hamas (same as Gaza 2005 and Afghanistan with the Taliban), then jihadists will flood the region from all over the ME , they would have geographical advantage over Israel since all Israeli core lies on flat terrain beneath the mountainous WB.
Can you move camera slowly
Some are talking in a way so their relatives don't accuse them.The man who says it would be difficult is correct.Corey is trying to say the beautiful free life they live now would be gone in corruption
It would be a new PA or worse, Hamas. They don't realize what they are wanting. Or maybe they do but don't want to look "traitors to the cause".
5 arab armies attacked the Jews...they lost I'm sorry...
@@ShaniHodia-bo8ygget help.... seriously you need to learn english and read before you comment....
Lol..even in the dream it cannot happen
Back to Ethiopia
If people want peace and coexistence they should be able to return to build Israel. Our holy books never mentioned it to be intended as Palestine that was roman idolatrous nation renaming the region. If one respects justice and called themselves a believer in the God of Avraham Issac and Jacob than Jews would be encouraged to follow Torah and live in the land. Especially since billions of people benefit for the teaching of Jewish prophets which Jews have been extremely tolerant of allowing practice of faiths in their country even by former oppressive ideology. Prophecies is the temple will be rebuilt for all nations to thank God and praise his name together but the Jew must have his land and ability to fulfill laws of the holy books which many can only be done in the land of Israel
Do those that left before Israeli independence or the conflict and were not forced out, or those who left after the armistice have a right to return? Do those who now hold citizenship of the countries in which they reside have a right to return?
That's not possible - there's nowhere near enough space for them.
Nah David jo space for ur 👃
Could not care less, these people were expelled from their homes they have the right to return.
Yeah of course but there are spaces for European Jews if they want to come. Enough with the entitlement already and learn how to live together in peace.
Well it IS their native place!
@@lovo430exactly
The Arab cowboy from 0:45 is pretty refreshing. Mostly honest but not brutal. He's basically saying that Israel/Palestine is one land and shouldn't be divided, but there should be areas only for Arabs and other areas for Jews. It sounds like a federation, but with pretty firm rules.
Do I support this? Hardly, as it sounds like a way to kick out settlers from the West Bank *and* Israelis from whatever areas the returning refugees deem to be theirs. In what universe would Israel accept this?
What I do support is a two-state system that would enable some settlers not to leave their homes in Palestine, while also allowing a similar number of refugees to live in Israel. Should any of these people break the law of the state they reside in (not as citizens), they could certainly be expelled to the opposite state. I'd imagine that only a modest number on either side would accept this arrangement, but there should be a cap on that number. This solution would be fair and workable for those with good intentions.
Also: Nothing is the way it was in 1948. No one should expect to just undo the past 75 years. Even the settlers in Hebron (whom I don't like) can only dream about life before 1929. Building a good future is far more important than recreating the past.
it's delusional to think Zionists would live in peace with Muslims. Their whole ideology is based on wanting to Kill Arabs and steal other peoples homes.
Don't forget the Zionists learned settler colonialism from Nazis in Poland who were doing same thing
Corey pleass make the question more specific! Theres a difference between refugees from 1948, to descandants of refugees. Do grandchildren of refugees hold the right to cone as well? I think that should be asked.
One question what about christian land there?
The fact is that was population exchange, 700,000 arabs so called palestnians move to arab states and 800,000 jews from arab/muslim state move to Israel, end of this debate....
The follow-up question you are not asking, and the issue no one mentions, is that the Jews were NOT originally from Europe. The Jews lived in Israel as their homeland thousands of years before the Palestinians. So aren't they returning to their original homeland? I'm not even referring to the State of Israel, and I'm not suggesting the Arabs can't live in Israel, I'm just stating the fact of whose homeland was it originally?
where are you getting this info? Ashkenazi's are paternally and maternally not from the area they claim... Multiple studies show this, what sense does it make for europeans to expel jews from the area into their own continent?
So what, maybe Greeks should take sout Italy,because they are first to establish political entities, or maybe ireland should invade Britain and France because 2000 years ago it was Celtic teritoy
who cares whether Jews lived there thousands of years ago, the Palestinians didn’t kick them out. 😂 honestly the best solution isn’t a Jewish state or an Arab state but a non ethnically based state in which all are equal. But the hardliners on both sides will never agree to that so it will never happen
Hundred of thousands of years ago all humans were in Africa, so what?
@@pirate6616That is never possible, and it’s not the “hardliners” to blame. The two groups are incompatible in as much as they are competing factions for the same land. Even if they aren’t outwardly extremist in any way, if both groups are aspirational in a pursuit to domineer the region culturally or economically it would cause a natural clashing. One group would have to assume submission to the other and accept a compromise that they are not the dominant force in the region.
Can the refugees return to the West Bank? Is it legal?
They would have to enter through Jordan as Israel might not let them in
nice words from that guys in puna shirts,even i am pro israeli,i admire the words of that guy,that is what a man should do to his fellow humans
can they return ,hell yeh!
can i put next to your village ,hell no!
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq it was joke to show their hypocrisy when they talk ,they want to show solidarity but if you put them together they Slaughter each other
הכל טוב
@@ShaniHodia-bo8yg 😀
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq We stole your land from you? Your land was taken by the Romans, and those who fought them and expelled them are indeed Arabs and Muslims. If the Arabs, had not taken control of the Levant, you would now be at the mercy of the Romans, and you do not have any land. On the contrary, you fled everywhere and left your land, leaving a few of you there. So they have the right to live in this land as you live.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq Even under British rule, those who expelled the Ottomans from Arab countries were Arabs and rebelled against the Ottomans, and at that time most of your people were spies asking Britain to help them. Indeed, they helped you because you were their spies.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq And do not talk about the Arabs already and their non-existence there, because they have the right to live there just as you came to live there!
The last gal is dreaming fantasy
he said it again us arabs believe it is the holy land for them how could it be you are arab and if it was not for a muhamad and his religion ,it would still be the the holy lands and the land for first the jews , so they are confused and this confusion is self inflicted by the arabs " palestinan"
If Israel adopts a secular government, people could live with peace. I am a Muslim from Turkey and support secular government showing respect to people’s religions. America is a good example as well. Government is equally supporting our choices.
the whole point of israel is for it to be jewish
Sorry, no. That's not how it works. Israel is a Jewish land for Jews. Arabs can live there, but it has to stay Jewish. Why is it that we Jews have to give up our heritage, religion and culture in our one state, but not Arabs, who have 22 other Islamic countries to go and live in freely?
One is too many
"Occupation in the Territories" in Palestinian dialect, that means Jews living in Israel.
Wise woman
Kfar kana looks beautiful
מגיע לכולם לחזור חוץ מליהודים כמובן איזה שטויות
They really know how to act for the camera 😂
They must have learned this from Jews. Such good actors
@@PrincessDay-yk2he Seems like you are the real actors here
Israel was created as a haven for Jews, that’s why there is “favoritism” forJews who come to Israel. It’s not necessarily discrimination AGAINST other ethnic groups, it’s a specific effort to help one group. Understandable.
by stealing other peoples homes?
understanble? Is it moral? Justifiable?
And I ask based on jewish laws since it's clearly against UN human rights
@@Aksarallah Those homes and land belong to the Jews who were expelled by the Romans, since you wanna go back.
At the expense of another group. Hence the crux of the issue...
7:20 best answer ❤
16:46 If you attack first someone else who bought a house next door with the aim to seize it and the lose the battle, then you can't complain if the one you attacked retaliate and seize your house in return. It's call war reparation.
Hence you do lose your right to return to your house because it's not yours anymore. You lost it by attacking first,
Ask an arab what would have happend to the jews if they won the 1948 war
They talk so sincerely about "returning home" while their homelands are Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon when there are countless videos of them admitting that. Ever wonder why so many "palestinians" have the name "Al-Masri"? That means "the Egyptian/from Egypt" in Arabic. Again even if there ever was a palestinian nation who had lived in Israel, that still means nothing since living somewhere does not grant you ownership rights to the land. Jews had Sovereignty over the land, Kingdoms, Government, Court Systems, Currency and so on aside for it being known in Biblical and Historical text that Israel is the land of the Jewish nation. Even the Muslim Quran admits it. Jews and so many other nations had lived in so many countries throughout the ages, should we start dividing lands into shreds for everyone to have a piece of it? Another thing is there's a difference between genuinely wanting to live in a country and claiming its your own and vowing to do anything to take it back by force.
FALSE. I’m a Palestinian and my dna test says I am 20% Mizrahi Jew. That’s a big percentage and that is also many Palestinians dna too. Try again.
@PrincessDay-yk2he Not surprising considering a good chunk of Palestinians are descended from Samaritians that converted to Islam. Especially those in and around Nablus and Hebron.
I would love to see them adopt the Hebrew language and be proud of their Jewish roots. In the same way Iranian Muslims are proud of their Zoroastrian roots and still celebrate the holidays, etc.
@@PrincessDay-yk2hemy DNA says i am 20% eskimo , therefore the north pole belongs to me.
Its so easy to invent stuff on the internet ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@PrincessDay-yk2heNo such thing as Palestinian DNA
This is the reverse how many Palestinians see Jews claim to a Jewish state. They do not see The Jewish people worthy of a nation. They see them as Europeans. They say they should go back to Europe.
Palestinians have seen themselves as a people worthy of a homeland since the 1920s. Trying to say they are not a people is not going to convince them that their dream of nationhood is worthwhile.
The hard part is to convince both peoples that they are both worthy of having a nation and for peaceful coexistence.
Guy at the end was a good dude, it is hard to be gay but also non western
So many people out here in the comment section doesn't count that the term "Palestinian" wasn't Arab state , it was just a piece of land named by the greeks, if you somehow saw the historic coin you can see that it written in hebrew א"י that means eretz israel -> or "Israel Land" So jews like my grandfather and grandmother were "Palestinians" as so many of the world forgets that this land wasn't Arab ones and neither jewish one but surely the term Palestinian is not only consider for someone who is "Arab".
Come back to what? Simply living somewhere doesnt give you right to return. Jews lived in Israel for thousands of years and held it as their one and only Sovereign land. No other nation ever called this land their homeland, they only occupied it as they already had their own lands. Arabs who had lived in Israel before 1948 and before "Palestinian" was used as a word to describe a new nation were just living there under whoever controlled the land at the time. Comparing Jews returning to their homeland to Arabs who simply lived there and now call themselves palestinians, is just absurd. Can the Jews return to Saudi Arabia and claim it as an additional homeland since they were expelled by the muslims in 1948 after living there for 1000 years?
Jews were forced out of Saudi Arabia by Quathem, their Muhammed when he vowed to remove every Jew from Saudi Arabia. There are about 3000 Jews living in Saudi Arabia today. The Abraham Accords have helped them accept Jews as travelers, or when employed there.
Muhammed killed all the Jewish men of three tribes and took their women as sex slaves.
Palestinians are Jews, try again.
oleg shoihet was murderd in kfar kana (was burried alive)
they screaming that they wash all with blood in kfar kana
they are lying!
2:40
October 7th changed very many things for this region sadly
Humanity has no limits
Didn't know there were Arab cowboys.. learn something new.
there are Israeli cowboys too, agriculture is a huge industry in Israel.
Is salvation a reward for the righteous or a gift to sinners? It is a gift.
So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked.
Revelation 3:16-17 ESV
(Jesus speaking)
In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
1 John 4:10 ESV
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23 ESV
Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Matthew 11:28-30 ESV
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name.
1 Peter 4:16 ESV
If you actually read the Hebrew Bible, you would see that your Messiah doesn’t fulfill any of the prophecies. You’re following Roman mythology 2.0.
Please take your prosletyzing elsewhere, it's Rude!
@@NetanelWorthy
Just a few of the prophecies fulfilled by Jesus -
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 7:14 ESV
But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to be ruler in Israel, whose coming forth is from of old, from ancient days.
Micah 5:2 ESV
he says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
Isaiah 49:6 ESV
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; righteous and having salvation is he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
Zechariah 9:9 ESV
I gave my back to those who strike, and my cheeks to those who pull out the beard; I hid not my face from disgrace and spitting.
Isaiah 50:6 ESV
they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion. I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast; my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death. For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet- I can count all my bones- they stare and gloat over me; they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.
Psalm 22:13-18 ESV
The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.
Psalm 118:22 ESV
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 ESV
This human child, this son is called Mighty God, Everlasting Father. This from the mouth of God's prophet, Isaiah.
All praise our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
@@NetanelWorthy take a look of one for Israel.
@@rachelsamuel3328
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Matthew 24:14 ESV
So I have a question ? Corey from Canada could relocate just because of his faith . He was not born or raised in Israel but people who are born and raised there can’t return? How is that fair ? They can’t return because it will change “ population dynamics” and then may lose Jewish majority . So in order to maintain Jewish majority they must not allow non Jews to come but allow
Only Jews . In my opinion it is discrimination on basis of race and religious indentity . That is obviously not fair .
these people keep calling them selves arebs and then want to say they are palestinan but claim israel as palestine and that the jews stole their land , but non of them will acknowledged juda was there first and that their name is a latin name just like the arab invaders in kemet .
Palestinians are Jews. They know this already, it doesn’t need to be stated
The answer is no. Never.
ahh good old fashion racism! LOL
They will and you will get your ass genocided again you filthy jew.
Don't blame us
If we are antisemitic
@@war_falco4466at least you admit that you're antisemitic
@@sunnyvegas2778 If you recreate the demographics of 1948 you will recreate the conflict. It isn't racism, it's reality.
I think the Jews and Arabs should have a country of their own , they will be happier and more comfortable than living in a mixed country.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq Can you give me a straight answer please, the boundaries of what must be the state of Israel and the state of Palestine in your opinion.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq By the way , i am not black or African, seems you are a bit confused.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq Again a confused statement.
@@ShaniHodia-bw4uq Well that would be something similair i was thinking of the area west of river Jordan Israel and the area east of river Jordan Palestine as partition of the former mandate of Palestine, Jews and Arabs living apart , not being bothered by each other.
@@rkapoor7533based on the 1967 lines with swaps. Something close to what Olmert proposed.
The main question that isnt asked. Should they be allowed to return after starting a war to kill the jews and lost the war? So since when people have to give beneficts to the agressors that loose the fights?
כפר כנא במקור - ישוב נוצרי
יש תמונות " חתונה בכנא גלילית"..
A "right of return" would mean Israelis inviting Hamas, the PIJ and other terrorist groups into their country. How do you think an Israeli would feel with someone from Hamas living right next door to him?
Try making a peace treaty with Palestinians. I´m sure that if the apartheid state, the settler policy... ends peace can be achieved.
@@anttongudari1763 Israel made peace offers several times to the Palestinians. All the offers were rejected.
@@anttongudari1763 There were no settlers before 1967 and Israel was still suffering from terror attacks, what is your excuse now?
@@anttongudari1763 try not doing what you people do to kids.... then talk about peace
@@anttongudari1763 wrote:
"Try making a peace treaty with Palestinians. I´m sure that if the apartheid state, the settler policy... ends peace can be achieved."
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Cosimo:
In 1947, the Jewish people agreed to something the Arabs rejected -- an Arab/Palestine state.
In 2005, Israel left Gaza; in return they got tens of thousands of projectiles fired at them.
Both Jews and Arabs go to the same beaches, parks; both go to the same hospitals where they're treated by both Jewish and Arab doctors, who were trained in Israeli medical schools.
How can one be a "settler" in one's own homeland?
The Olim hadashim don’t have to pay taxes for 10 years? Tell me about that 😂
No, that isn't exactly the case. It isn't about all taxes. 10 years is about taxes on things like foreign investment dividends, let's say rent from a house abroad, pension payments abroad, or foreign earnings of your company located abroad (last one, I think, I am not sure I understood some distinctions). The income from a job in Israel will not be completely tax-free. There's a benefit that is given and decreases over 5 years of living in Israel, after which you are taxed on that income the same as other citizens.
@@olterigo I know that my friend. Did my aliyah 1,5 year ago
I wonder if they think Jews should return? 🤔 and if both Jews and Palestinians returned that would be over 12 million people migrating to Israel would they want the Israeli government or the PA to be the government? Would they give up Israeli citizenship to gain Palestinian citizenship?
Jews already are allowed to return under the "law of right to return", even the converts
yet palestinians whose ancestors lived in palestine for thousands of years aren't allowed
you can't have a law of right to return that only applies to one group of people and not the others, that's a racist law
I am not saying they all should come back to what is Israel today (it would be the end of Israel), but i do say that those that can prove their family had property in Israel before 1948 should be compensated financially or otherwise.
No compensation, just the right to go back to their homes.
Every Person and his descendant who got expelled or had to flee should have the Option if he wants his right to return or accept financial compensation.
A solution could be a one state solution with lots of autonomous regions
Sure, no problem with this, as soon as the more than million jews that were kicked at the same time period from now arabic countries get compensated for all of their land and properties stolen by those countries when they kicked them and they had to flee to Israel
. The Palestinian Arabs owned only 3.3% of the land in the British Land Survey of 1945. Most of them were not land owners but were tenant farmers (fellahin) they worked others properly as surf's did, and at the end of the season, had to pay the wealthy Arab and Turk land owners rent.
@@lovo430Any Arab that could prove they owned lands in Israel that was registered and had a deed, could be compensated by the court. The land in the West Bank is not part of this as Israel has not annexed that land as theirs.
Why do they want to return so bad? Because the Jews made something of Israel. Why aren't Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc places they desire? Other than Jurasalem, why do you want to be there as opposed to anywhere else?
עולים חדשים כן לא משלמים את מס הכנסה. אני כבר שלוש שנים פה, ולא משלמת.
𝗜𝘀 𝗣𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗣𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝗢𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵?
Peace between Israel and any other nation depends on the Jewish people being at peace with each other.
In the past, Israeli Jews were once united in times of war. Today, even war fails to unite us.
There is no need for us to fight anyone. We will finish ourselves off with our own hands.
Until we understand that everything depends on uniting above our divisions and discovering a common love, we will have no peace and calm with our neighbors.
How does it work?
It works because we are a special nation that was established not on biological ties, but on achieving the idea of “love your friend as yourself,” and it is that example of unity that will let us function as a healthy organ in the world.
If we achieve such love for each other, then Palestinians will have no drive to fight us, and in general, the hatred against us will subside.
If we wish to be at peace with Palestinians and the entire world, we first need to be at peace with each other.
The Palestinians had a hand in there own fate and they took up arms against the jews and the IDF did not want to fight a rear guard action
what should Palestinians do? Surrender and give their land? It is logical and fair to fight against oppression
They lost move on they ate not any different than the 10s of millions of refugees after WWII who lost everything.
JORDAN is Palestinian 75% of the population is Palestinian or descendants of , Remember it wasn't the Jews who murdered 20000 Palestinians in one night incident blood in the 1970s it was the Jordanians the Hashamites we were never the enemy