Arab Israelis: Why did you surrender to the Jews in 1948?
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Why did the Arabs surrender in 1948 ? There were a variety of reasons. The Arabs in Palestine were divided into factions that distrusted each other. There was no coherent united organization like the Jews had with Yishuv to coordinate social and military manpower during the war. As a result, Arab armies did not work effectively to combat the Jews. Arabs underestimated the resiliency and strength of the Jews. Since they were in the majority and had numerical superiority on the ground, the Arabs thought they would quickly overrun the Jewish state and obliterate it. The Arabs had the advantage early in the war and they informed the Arab residents living in their communities to flee from their homes expecting to make short work of Israel. Arab residents close to Israel also fled out of fear. They never expected the war to last as long as it did, that they would be defeated and not allowed to return to their homes. Arab leaders distrusted one another and aimed to take advantage of the situation for their own benefit. King Abdullah bin Hussein of Jordan was in competition with Haj Amin al Husseini, the imam of Jerusalem, the local Palestinian leader, and sought to reach an accomodation with the Jews in order to annex the West Bank. On the other side Egyptian armies occupied Gaza to forestall Israel from capturing it. Arabs also did not take advantage of the brief lull in the war of 1949 situation to prepare for the next phase of the conflict. While the Jews bought weapons like fighter planes from Czechoslovakia and raised donations to fund their war effort, the Arabs took it for granted that their numerical superiority in manpower would overwhelm the Jewish state. After the brief lull in 1949, the Jews had the advantage and captured more territory than they were allocated in the partition plan of 1948.
well researched!
Especially these days when so many people parrot anti-Israel mantra's, it is important to keep pointing out the historical context. @@Andrii87
Thank you
one mistake: yes there was in 1947, not 1948, the Resolution 181: division into arab and jewish parts. But only the Jews accepted this resolution. Therefor this land division was not implemented. So in fact the 1920 San Remo Conference (League of Nations) is upto today still valid: The Jewish Homeland from the River to the Sea (see also the map as part of this agreement). This is why after Egypt and Jordan had taken Gaza and Samaria and Juda (later named The Westbank by Jordan) in 1948, these areas were officially called Occupied Territory by the United Nations, but today they are called Disputed Territory due to the fact the PA, supported bij many countries, claim it as theirs, which again it is not. Only when an official Palestinian State is established (two state solution), of which Gaza will be a part, and parallel the Palestinians acknowledge the State of Israel, Israel will cease to be it's legal 'owner'. But the way it looks now this is wishful thinking on the side of the Palestinians. I do not believe that they will let go of their claim on whole of Israel too, and therfor they are no party in peace negotiations.
Exactly. Well the Israelis actually had more manpower but that was due to the overconfidence of the Arab nations.
Hi from Israel. Once I spoke with a Arab Janitor in my work place in Tel-Aviv. His Grandfather was during 1948. I asked him what happened when Israeli came to his grandfather city. He said his grandpa didn't want to leave. I asked "Is that all?", he replied yes.
😂😂 you like Tom n Jerry don’t yah.
@@Offa7a no, s/he just lives together with 2 mil arab israelis...
My family comes from Jish. My grandparents left the village briefly during the war and went to Tiberias I think. When the war ended they returned to Jish without any problems, to the same house they had before. They didn't take a side and are happy to live in peace with anyone in any country.
Were they Christians ?
@@HITBnn Yes my family are Maronites.
But that doesn't change the fact that Zionists are the biggest thieves in world history and the master ethnic
cleansing
@@LukaKarra The Israelis were more liberal with Christians than with Muslims.
@raanangeberer1903 Yes, I mostly agree. But Christians also mostly support Israel, even if they won't admit it. And there are many reasons why.
As a tunisan arab i want that peace with israel comes soon and all people live in peace if you are good or bad this does not have any relation with your country or with religion it is what your parents feeded you hate or love that is all
You are naive, israel never wants peace.
No peace with occupation
enjoy the never-ending "occupation" then@@user-er2um6fn5f
@@user-er2um6fn5fthere is no occupation, there is only occupation in your simple, backward mind! You are just like the palestinians, you care more about some land and Hating jews than you care about your children, that’s Why your children will continue to die, because you don’t want peace! Israel is right, go IDF!
That last guy was very interesting.
3:00 this guy here... ❤️
Weird question, but it's coming from someone in Syria.
Because Israël won....simple.
Yea Syrians are weird.
Degrading question for the purpose of Incitement.
@@chocomojo9552israel didn't win It will be perished and destroyed again HISTORY testifies
@@Anamorgan200 Israel exists. Deal with it already.
In reality the difference between the Palestinians and Israeli Arabs is class related. Some had quite a bit of property, and others had nothing!
Some of these respondents know exactly what I'm talking about. They've accepted Israel just like they accepted the Ottoman Empire.. and prospered as a result!!! You can see it!
see also my answer at
@abcxyz8787 and yes you are completely right, this was also an important aspect.
The ottoman they were not occupiers and they didn't kill Palestinian, the ottoman were the rulers of Islamic world, Egypt saudi Palestine Yemen Qatar ec . It was not a borders between them ,it was one nation one land one ruler
Israel Zionists must go away
Its good to see that some of their answers were (at least the vibes i got from some of them) "it happened, its the past and we need to focus on the future of living together for the sake of our children"..
That's the right mentality imo, for both sides. Too many years people on eithe side held grudges and were "stuck" in past, regardless how hard it was and how many bad things each side did to the other. This country won't go anywhere with grudges and hate..
Who hell do you think you are. Jews and Israelis have no credibility. Keep your bullshit to yourself, while the illegal apartheid "israel" was busy persecuting the Palestinians and my family...oh and how about the terrorist attacks of 9/11 and more evil...and even after knowing all that most of your israels were perfectly happy to have the world be bombed with nuclear weapons as long as it didn't affect you. You will never be trusted again. Never. The absolute truth, all of it, down to the most disgusting crimes, will be publicized. And finally you clearly have no integrity if you think this was a matter of grudges...when you read the public record of all the crimes israel and jews are charged with and will be convicted of...maybe you'll have a clue about what happened. You cheated, lied and defrauded and tried to destroy us.
All traitors will be charged as such.
And we know who you are, what you are, even the bot comments.
And everyone who had in their possession a Talmud and/or Toledot Yesyhu will be charged with possession of child pornography.
That's right.
Your comments and pathetic attempts to diminish what jews and zionists have done to this world only makes you seem daft.
There are many "both" driving the Arab-Israeli conflict:
Arabs vs. Jews
Muslims vs. Jews
21 Arab countries vs. Israel
56 Muslim countries vs. Israel
Islam vs. Jewdaism
Shia vs. Sunni
Iran vs. Turkey vs. KSA vs. Egypt
USSR/Russia vs. USA
East block countries vs. West
Partial list.
And yet still today, Jews are receiving billions in reparations after 70 years. Can anyone say ; “Double standard”?
Unfortunately, these people are not the issue on what is thought
They have lived in Israel and for the most part thrived. The issue is the Palestinians outside Israel that spread vicious lies and propaganda about Jews and Israel.
@@theredboneking The reparations is between the Jews/Israel and Germany. It wasn't obligated to Germany to pay the Jews.
A wise man once said “You surrender when you accept defeat”
Jury is still out on the wisdom of that statement.
That's how surrender works.
@@Anamorgan200 because the Germans weren't as merciful as the Muslims. Give 'em hell, they will run away. Simple 🎉
@@Anamorgan200 Jews fight against the Germans in 43.
These people did not take a side in the war
@@Anamorgan200 did these Jews have guns in the concentration camps 😮
Brilliant comment of the third man👏
The guy at 2:00 - wow, how incredibly insightful and knowledgeable 👏🏽
Not at all, he sounded the most miseducated
@@Anne-mn3rh I beg to differ. In my opinion he sounded very informed and objective; it’s a shame you couldn’t see that
@@IbnSaifi Yes, he _sounds_ very informed, but only until you break down what he's saying:
The Palestinian cause is not about Jews? Then why didn't they establish a Palestinian state between 1948 and 1967, when Gaza, Judea, and Samaria were under Arab control? Why, at the time, did they focus only on destroying the tiny area that remained under Jewish control?
Arab Jews? Sephardic/Mizrachi Jews are not Arab - they are Judean, from Judea, like their Ashkenaz brothers
Establishing a state only for the Jewish people? He's saying this as an Israeli Arab...definitely faulty logic there
And he clearly doesn't grasp that Israel - not Europe - is the homeland of the Jewish people. Zionism began long before the Holocaust and was based on the Jewish people's eternal connection to their indigenous land
@@Anne-mn3rh ‘I cannot help but hear echoes of the Nazi mythos of "blood and soil" in the rhetoric of settler fundamentalism which claims a sacred right to all the lands of biblical Judea and Samaria. The various forms of collective punishment visited upon the Palestinian people - coerced ghettoization behind a "security wall"; the bulldozing of homes and destruction of fields; the bombing of schools, mosques, and government buildings; an economic blockade that deprives people of the water, food, medicine, education and the basic necessities for dignified survival - force me to recall the deprivations and humiliations that I experienced in my youth.’
- Dr Hajo Meyer (Holocaust survivor)
@@IbnSaifi an internet meme is your argument?
So far, from mecca to the gates of vienna , the atlantic shores to india and even nigeria , there is one religion practicing blood and soil. It occupies 58 countries.
And its not judaism
Situations can different people unite 🙏
The guy on the 3rd minute.
Great respect
This question should have been asked to old people, all these young people don’t know their history.
They have not surrendered. Such an unfair question.
Palestine was never a state. Did the people surrender to the Ottomans when the Ottomans occupied Palestine? Did they surrender to the British? Living in peace irrespective of the government in control is not surrendering.
i think they have better life as a israeli citizen 2 grad .so you can work live peacfully and you can be in the kneset and at the other side the palestinian in west bank they have nothing ,no work no future .after all as arab israeli you have your rights more any palestinian in syria,jordan or lebanon .my wish one country for arab,jews christian,muslim,druz .
peace for all and forgett the ethnity
Correct, I wonder what percentage would admit that?
Why one country? Why not 23?
They should say "hamdulillah we are lucky people and we should thank our parents and grandparents who stayed and did not leave because of the fantasy of Arab leaders who encouraged "temporary departure" before the war"
That was proven a lie by Jewish Professor Ilan Pappe PhD. No Muslim leaders ever told the Palestinians to leave.
True
True.
Or maybe according to all legal sources that zionists did ethnic cleansing against Palestinian.
They cry out as they strike you. Only "people" like you believe such things to justify massacres (see Tantura)
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ تَوَفَّاهُمُ الْمَلَائِكَةُ ظَالِمِي أَنفُسِهِمْ قَالُوا فِيمَ كُنتُمْ ۖ قَالُوا كُنَّا مُسْتَضْعَفِينَ فِي الْأَرْضِ ۚ قَالُوا أَلَمْ تَكُنْ أَرْضُ اللَّهِ وَاسِعَةً فَتُهَاجِرُوا فِيهَا ۚ فَأُولَٰئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَسَاءَتْ مَصِيرًا
Surely, the angels will ask those whom they cause to die while they were acting unjustly towards themselves (by prolonging their stay in the land of the disbelievers and thus transgressing against their own souls), `What circumstances were you in (that you did not avow Islâm openly)?' They will reply, `We were treated as weak in the country (to express our belief).' They (- the angels) will say, `Was not Allâh's earth spacious enough for you to have emigrated therein?' It is these whose abode shall be Gehenna and an evil destination it is!
Surrender is a wrong word. The Arabs did not surrender, they just fled from the battle fields. Many of them even didn't see one Israeli soldiers.
they chickened out.
UR CORRECT DUE TO KILLING BY SHAMIR AND BEGEN GANGS WHO GOT NOBLE PRIZE,
@@frankjames7272 Seven Arab Armies invaded Israel in order to defeat Israel and to throw the Jews into the sea as the Arab leaders announced many times. The poor plain soldiers didn't understand why they have to risk their lives for others and fled after a short time.
@@nasiryousif4076 You are wrong. Shamir didn't get it but the Archi Terroristic Arafat got it. Why? Because he agreed to except the generous Israeli offer for peace but he never dreamt to fulfil it.
@@nasiryousif4076 Further more, the gangs of Begin and Shamir had the same goal as the Arab gangs had, to expel the British out of Palestine and they did it right as the Arab gangs there did. Read a book.
I would love to hear more about Israeli Palestinian's past! I was glad that you actually found someone that knew or was comfortable enough to talk about it!
I'd love to know why their parents did decide not to flee and how they were treated in different parts of the country, and if they have a form of guilt of now living amongst their occupiers?
I understand both the perspectives of families that became refugees and people that simply refused to move! In 1967 a lot of Palestinians fled from the west bank, hearing the plan to ethnic cleanse them like in 1948. My Grandmother and her extended families made everything ready for departure, but my grandfather stubborn as ever said he would not leave and he will be buried on his ancestor's lands! So, some small parts of the family did flee and are not allowed to come back unfortunately, but the majority stayed with my grandfather, Alhamdulillah!
I also would like to hear what the newest generation learns about the nakba and if they even know about their past or what is been going on in the west bank and Gaza!
Joseph Abu Aishah, The only Nakba (catastrophe) to the Arabs was losing 6 wars to the Jews, and the Jews being able to create a state on land that the Arabs sold to them as trash!
The Palestinians are the children of Lot... The Moabites Moab written in the Holy Bible... Thèse Jordanians are Ammonites the children of Lot Ammon... Grace and truth reveals all... Remember Satan deceiveth the whole world
Read the book of Amos in the Bible 📖Amos 1:6 - 8 to see the future prophecy of Gaza...
@@Shemuah
"Mr. Black Judah" the last of the Edomites were absorbed into the Israelites in the second century BCE by John Hyrucanus. The Edomite population was diminished by the Assyrians and Babylonians to few in number.
God said,*_"Thou shalt not abhor the Edomite, He is thy brother. Thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. The children of the third generation that are born unto them can enter into the assembly of the LORD"_*
King Herod was the second or third generation, Antipater would have been accepted as an Israelite.
The plan was for arabs to ethnically cleanse jews and for palestinians to come back after the genocide. Too bad for the occupiers that the indigenous people won.
7 Arab countries attacked the young Jewish state in 1948.
They lost and now they cry.. Childish behavior
Which is another reason why Biblical prophecy was unfulfilled. Most Jews are atheists anyway, so the theft had nothing to do with religion.
@@theredboneking many prophecies predicted that most of the jews will be atheists. It's says so clearly. And yet jews are still around stronger than ever just as the prophecies predicted.
@@theredboneking what happened to all the great empires and kingdoms that went against the jews? They disappeared from history just as the prophecies predicted.
You go against God and you shall parish
The region's Arab Islamic majority cannot accept the existence of an independent state of a minority, be it of Maronites, Assyrians, Druze or others, especially of Jews. By Arab Islamic supremacy culture, if it is not dominated and controlled by an Arab Islamic regime then it is an occupation.
@@ef2718 Exactly.
The fact is no one is trying or ready to change the situation. 🤷🏿♂️
Out of fear and reprisals.
Why would they? Their lives are fairly good.
They have better lives than Egyptians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Lebanese. No reason to change
Most people in this video weren't even born yet😊
Yes, they were just taught by the older generations the fantasy for revenge. It's an endless cycle
2023-1948=75 ==> -Most- All.
Many of the questions sent to Corey are provocative.
What are you talking about. You said the people in this video are not real? So this video is fake?
@Shane v.d.B no many weren't born. 75 years ago they look young
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These Israeli Arabs keep saying that the Israeli state is unjust and treats them as second or third tier citizens.
Problem with the sound
Is it a new translator??
The arabs told other arabs to leave Israel because they wanted to invade the jewish settlements and finish the job of hitler for once and for all. The jewish militia won the fight and pushed the arabs far away. Ever since the jews created a multi religious and cultural state with jewish influence. Every nationality and religion can live peacefully and equally with each other. Thank Allah for Israel, he truly blessed this land.❤
God do never bless the Israelis nor the Jews.
@@Anamorgan200 Jews and Arabs are brothers. Israel is a heaven for those who leave their miserable country and truly follow god.
@@Anamorgan200 Allah has blessed the land. In 1948, it was Allah's will that the land was divided. The Arabs disagreed and fought His will in 1967, and Allah gave even more land to Jews. He gave them Sinai taken from Egypt, He gave them the Golan taken from Syria, and He gave them the West Bank/Judea and Samaria with AlQuds/Jerusalem taken from the foolish Hashemites.
@@olterigothieves can assume god gives them the money they stole also,
If god gives you Sinai and south Lebanon why he takes them back from you
@@ahmedelbadry4493 Hey, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Muslims tend to forget that they spread Islam with a sword and without that their lands wouldn't extend much beyond Saudi Arabia.
All of these responses to the question were predictable, especially the response "I didn't surrender".
Well, yeah, they didn't
it's like questioning the jews why did you surrender to the holocaust in Auschwitz?
@@Anamorgan200 thank you.
He should have asked if the Palestinian people surrendered not if they personally did. His questions only served his confirmation bias.
@Lucy 🇵🇸 Nothing Israel has ever done to the Arabs even remotely compares to what the Nazis did to our people in World War 2.
More Jews died in one week in 1943 than every single person killed over the course of the entire Arab-Israeli conflict, including all wars, all casualties in Lebanon, Syria etc on all sides.
The Arabs that remained in Israel are citizens, with representation in the Knesset, Supreme Court, official recognition of their language, holy sites, etc. We even had an acting Arab president in 2007.
The Arabs that live in Israel have the best living standards of anywhere in the middle east except maybe the gulf states. That's why Palestinians today will nearly kill each other to get a work permit in Israel. I used to see it when I worked the checkpoints in Hebron. All of them wish they were Israeli citizens.
Yes Palestinians have suffered and individual soldiers have committed atrocities at various points. But the minute you use a Nazi analogy, you lose all credibility.
It's like Germany didn't like losing some land after WWI and decided to start another war (WWII).
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Jesus is not my guy
@@danielmconnolly7 Jews don't even care about heaven. Be a good person, that is all.
Palestinian have not surrender but still fighting for their land .
The man at 3:30 - Israel was never established as a state for Jews only but as a state for the Jewish people. Meaning it will have a majority of Jews in it, but non Jews are welcomed to live here too with rights. If you look at the last 2000 years you see that the injustice was committed by non Jews who persecuted and discriminated Jews in every country. Zionism was a reaction to this injustice - that Jews weren't allowed to live as equal anywhere in the world.
so because the west persecuted the jews , that gives the right to oppress another nation ?
even worse when they wanted to flee after 1933 to their Jewish Homeland from the River to the Sea (officially name and land given to them in 1920 San Remo Conference, League of Nations), the British would use a low quotum only for Jews. Instead of helping the Jews to escape from the Holocaust ... but parallel Arabs flooded the land. And still after 1945 the British did not open the borders to Jews. Long story but it all has to to with the Arabs, who did not want to live under Jewish ruling in their Umma...
Therefore, Zionism executed the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the territories of 1948, reducing their number from 950 thousand to 150 thousand. As a result, the non-Jewish population in what is now called Israel became 150 out of 806 thousand Israelis. When the United Nations issued a resolution on the right of return for those displaced in 1948, Israel enacted a citizenship law in 1952. This law allows any Jew worldwide to come to Israel and obtain full citizenship, while a Palestinian who is an Israeli citizen cannot be reunited with family members through marriage. Similarly, the "700,000 Palestinians" displaced during that period do not have the right to return.
The first girl is pretty
Make a video on naqba done by zionists
You are doing great work and it’s very important , but it’s also very dangerous for you. I hope you are cateful
I don’t understand why one of the gentleman interviewed has a problem with one Jewish country but not with the 20 Arab Muslim countries.
There’s no such thing as Arab Muslim country what an ignorant comment
الرجل في الدقيقه 52
كلامه سليم يكفيه ان قلبه وعقله ويقينه فلسطيني.كانت النكبه الفلسطينيه صدمه ولها ظروفها فالقرارات تحتمت على جميع الفلسطينيين ولا يمكن لوم احد.الله ينصركم ويعزكم ويلم شملكم في فلسطين الحره.
إن شاء الله ❤🇵🇸
Free Palestine? Do you mean free from terror? From corruption?
I wish you have a free Palestine with religion freedom, speech freedom.
Free Palestine from ITS own stupidity and delusion and indoctrination and religious fanaticism and hate!
For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die- but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Romans 5:6-11 ESV
I am neither Jew or Arab but the question you are asking these people can actually get into trouble with the government
which government? The ones that are Israeli Arabs won't have a problem...the ones under PA rule, however, can, so you're partially right
Israel has freedom of speech so he can do this all he wants, but it’s a different story when you go in Palestinian controlled territories like Gaza.
Re they legally able to commemorate the Nakba? NO
Are they able to wave the Palestinian flag? No
Are they allowed to marry other Palestinians from the West Bank? No 😊
@@Ahmed-oq3ug Obviously. Try waving the flag of your enemy's country when you are at war. This is true in any country in the world ever. Go to ukraine and wave russia's flag.
@@polvoazul so your issue is not with the tERrorIStS, you just Hate Palestinian nationality and identity even if they are born with Israeli citizenship and never carried a weapon
*These questions are becoming stupid and offensive.*
Seriously. I'm Israeli and I agree.
it's hilarious when they say "I was not here when that happened.", that is an indicator of how they are unloyal to "their country"
Salam, Shlomo, Shalom, Peace.
The Israeli's, Palestinian's, Iranian's, Lebanese Civilians, Need A Two State Solution, The World Needs More Peace, Instead Of More Wars.
I am wondering, From a Palestinian perspective, why did they vote for Hamas in Gaza and what are their thoughts on the PLO de facto leaders in the west bank as they got segregated from Gaza as a result.
For Jihad mfethu
You're just trying to get hurt now🤦♂️
Bless your heart🤣✌️
Kind of a loaded question to make someone feel subservient. Truth is Israel is beautifully diverse as the world should be . Rabbi Sacks puts it into perspective in "the Dignity of Difference and how its divine
Why do you ppl shove diversity and other marxist slogans into everything?
Rabbi Sacks is a child sex predator, as anyone who has ever been in possesion of the Talmud or Toledot Yeshu,
And you morons. Jews came from apes...from grotesque evil crimes...that's not diversity, you half-with, thats PERVERSITY. And if you jews think you're divine...that's hilarious...you came from apes, you have been condemned by God, mother nature and the very universe itself. YOU CAN'T BE THAT DUMB OR DELUSIONAL.
@@bmr4566 👆 Israel's "peace partner" lol
Beautifully diverse??? Try immigrating there if your mother is not Jewish. If you marry a Jewish person, you can immigrate there IF you convert to Judaism. Which means Muslims and Christians will soon be extinct.
@@theredboneking Israel could limit it's immigration to one eye'd Eskimos if they feel like it (that's they way it works when you are a sovereign nation, rather than an imaginary one). As for "extinct", on the contrary, Israel is the only nation in the ME with a growing Christian pop and the Muslim pop is over 20% and growing as well. Remind us all again how many Jews live in the areas the so called "Palestinians" control?
Why the guy at 10:00 speaked french ? He said "c'est pareil" and "c'est bon" ?
😄He spoke Hebrew, not French, he didn't say "C'est pareil" -- but "ma ha sibah? zeh ha sippur", meaning "WHat's the reason? That's the story" and not "c'est bon" but "pashut me'od"--"very simple."
@@grasmereguy5116 it looked so french for me 😅 let's say I was a little tired when I listened to the video
@@MehdiZanjabil Well, he was talking fast and you don't know Hebrew (I assume), so I can see how you made that make mistake. I had to listen a few times myself to catch it, which was made more difficult because I only speak Hebrew as a second language and he had an Arabic accent in his Hebrew.
The man at 8 minutes explains he is a Syrian. So he is a Palestinian? A Syrian Arab from a Syrian village?
This is Majd al Sham in the Golan. They are Syrian Druze
@@danielheckel2755 Druze.
Druze are an ethnoreligious group that keeps strict endogamy, hence a quite well defined group.
@@ef2718 thanks
He is a Syrian Druze from a village in the Golan Heights. After the 1967 war, some Syrian villagers remained and they hold onto their Syrian nationality and identity but also have many rights as residents of Israel. They are eligible for Israeli citizenship but only a minority have taken it.
Hi Corey from Australia. I watch all your shows and am a subscriber and this question wis the most ridiculous you’ve ever presented that I’ve seen.
You are right. Surrender is a wrong word. The Arabs did not surrender, they just fled from the battle fields. Many of them even didn't see one Israeli soldiers.
@@simko8665 yes I know but asking people that weren’t alive at the time this question is idiotic.
Another quest to ask is, did their Grandparents realise that living in Israel would be a lot better for them in the end.
@@kauss-uh3py he is just relaying questions from random ppl, and he said that this questions often comes back he therefore decided to share it. I agree that he could have mixed the audience with more elderly that were closer to 48, nevertheless young ppl's opinion about the past was also interesting
ridiculous lie. sheikhs signed peace deals village by village. it was a war.
@@kauss-uh3py he had worse.
Its just some syrian trolling the israeli ar abs .... the only ar abs outside the gulf that have 24/7 water , electricity and the only ar abs in the middle east that can actually vote and their vote counts.
Make one on the Druze, Samaritans and “arameans”
English created the problem.
There was no surrender.
Before I say anything, I personally do not condone the conditions under which the State of Israel was established; however, that happened 75 years ago and not letting go for the sake of moving forward is just as stupid as it is futile and unrealistic. The problem with this conflict is strictly religious and nationalist; accepting a ruler who is not a Muslim and Arab, basically. I don't think that, even if there was discrimination, the Palestinians living outside Israel have a better and more normal life than the ones living inside. There are very few decent Arab leaders who share wealth with their people and give everyone opportunity to make a living without being discriminated against just for being a normal citizen or having to bribe government officials left, right, and center. Would you rather live under your corrupt Arab and supposedly "Muslim" leadership with limited opportunities and prospects in life because they're busy stuffing their pockets at your expense? Or would you rather live under a non-Arab non-Muslim regime that is representative of natives of the land (Jews) where you can do something with your life? Had Israelis been Muslims, like the Ottomans before, I bet we would have had a very different scenario, even if they came from Europe! One has to ask oneself, is this religious/nationalist war even worth it? Especially when everyone "supposedly" believe in the same "God of Abraham" with some disagreements on how to perform religious rituals and some other insignificant matters? I doubt that there are laws in Israel that prevent Arabs from practicing their cultural or religious identity freely and forcing them to be Zionized. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The propaganda of nationalism that the Brits and the French left in the region before they drew the borders was wholesomely consumed by Arabs that they forgot there were no nationalities before, only natives of the land. And this particular land always had Jews in it as proven by many archeological discoveries and historic accounts, and even witness accounts from older Arabs. So, why is it OK for the land to be ruled by Arabs and not by Jews? Aren't both natives of the land? And if that means the end of a conflict that lasted over 75 years and bloodshed on both sides, is it really such a terrible proposition? The Ottomans, who were not even native to the land, ruled for 400 years. Does anyone else see the lack of any sense of logic in this?
Being a Muslim does not guarantee protection from violence perpetrated by other Muslims. The Ottomans faced conflicts with Egyptians, Arab nationalists, and Bedouins. Despite the perception of Muslims as a cohesive entity, the truth is that they are divided and engaged in ongoing power struggles.
Before the Ottomans, there were the Mamluks who serve as another illustration. These Mamluks, who were child slaves hailing from Central Asia, were brought, trained, and groomed to become Muslim warriors. They held power for approximately two centuries until the arrival of the Ottomans, who eventually took control. Unfortunately, even today, Muslims continue to struggle with coexisting peacefully amongst themselves.
@@yigalgurevitch2936 that's a very valid point, and it points towards an even bigger issue.
@@kaminobatto In the region, secularism is essential.
@@yigalgurevitch2936 100% agreed.
You basically summed up everything I think.
Bro, they were forced to surrender. 😂😂
God forced them to surrender. End of.
it's like questioning the jews why did you surrender to the holocaust?.
*"It was an occupation!"*
What was occupied?
▪︎ The former Ottoman lands?
▪︎ The expired British Mandate?
▪︎ The illegally annexed Jordanian land?
▪︎ The land won by Israel from Jordan in a defensive war?
*What is it that was occupied?*
Their brains, by fantasies.
israel annexed an occupied territory. call it south syria or palestine either way it was occupied. they took you in and you took their land then murdered thousands. what a bunch of hypocrites you are lol
@@goodnight360 The Golan was occupied because they chose war (it's Israel's now). So called "Palestine" isn't even that, because it's literally impossible to occupy a nation that has never existed (+ they chose war too). And if the Arabs were capable of winning anything, every Jew would be "gone". (hypocrite much?) As for "took in"?? When was that? When they demanded that Jewish immigration end during a time that it meant almost certain death? When they rioted and massacred in places like Hebron? When their mufti became the german dude's bff and tried to bring the same thing to the ME? Exactly which part was the welcoming part?
@@starhopper1706 study history, Abraham is a migrant from Mesopotamia (Iraq), this land belongs to the Canaanites whose descendants are now amalgamated into the northern Arabs (Levantine Arabs), the Bible is a fairy tale not a historical fact, there is no evidence that Moses split the sea, it only happened in a fairy tale ( fantasy), stop stealing land with false narrative justification of the bible, because the bible is not a historical fact but a fable filled with religious dogma!
@@anakgembala7253 If you take religion entirely out of the equation, it all still belongs to Israel. And it's impossible to steal that which is yours, or to steal something from someone that never owned it in the first place. Check your history, it's been owned/ruled by just about everyone in the area BUT the so called "Palestinians".
You gotta learn to ask questions in a less confrontational manner
Lol about the building without permits.. they're not being discriminated against 🤦🏻♀️ It is a bit frustrating to get these permits, regardless of your ethnicity.
Thing is.. the Arab residents tend to keep on adding floors and parts to their homes illegaly 🙄
Simply drive by one of their villages, it would look a bit like what Gaza looks like now.. a lot of grey concrete walls unfinished, but they do live in them, cause they're constantly expanding, since they tend to live as one large family, with their kids, daughters/sons in laws, grandchildren etc.
By "surrender" they mean make the logical choice to live in peace and become a part of a thriving nation rather than wallow in self pity on the losers side.
In 1948 Israeli Army was made from rival organization (Hagana, Etzel). The overall manpower was 30K and ended as 117K (Wikipedia). As in any army maybe half are front line fighters. Almost no tanks, modest air force.
Fighting was on all fronts: North (Syria), East (Jordan), South West (Egypt), West (Egyptian Navy) and other expeditionary forces such as Iraqis. Also, internal uprising from local Arabs.
Add to this mix a story about forced expulsion of 600K Arabs.
Reply if you understand what kind of efficiency, command and control superiority should have happened. I don't think Allies of 1945 could achieve this kind of performance, if this story is true.
So the official Palestinian narrative is forceful expulsion of 600K people. All that when fighting on all fronts...
I don't Palestinian and their supporters understand what they are claiming with their 1948 Nakba story. No other army in history achieved that or planned for that.
The maroon guy kinda makes sense but still misses the context...Zionism was a thing even before the Holocaust, either spiritually which is older, or just the concept of a nation state which is modern like Ben Gurion.The Holocaust gave the urgency for a Jew nation state, but it was slowly being established in Mandatory Palestine. Who knew if the Jews there would've eventually want to split off from a potential single state Palestine especially if it seems many Mirhazi Jews -- who lived in Middle East -- in particular based on interviews seem to be the most nationalistic group. When the Ottomans lost, the Britsh took over the territory, and gave permission Jews to have their own state there, which can be seen as "liberating" for the Jews like how Americans helped "liberating" the Philippines (albeit we Filipinos already close to winning the war against the Spanish). If Arabs of that region did agree also to the conditions, then both Israel and Palestine could've said they both broke off from the Brits at the same time, not feeling like one is overrun by the other.
In the Palestinian psyche of 1948 the raw cruelty of the Ottomans was very much a part of their past experiences before British rule. How did they know that Israel replacing the Ottomans would not be just as cruel.
This explains a lot of what happened. It's an untold story never explored or explained
The British administered the territory of Israel and Palestine between the Ottomans and the Israelis.
Nazi support and Arab Jew hatred had a lot to do with it. The pogroms and killings 1920s and 1930s proof of that
It doesn't justify the 75 year long ordeal of a nation that's beeen displaced and dispersed because of European exports. Why couldn't Europe allow them to live in the land where they were for decades? Europeans seem to have deep vested discrimination issue. They subjugated the Jews and kicked them out.
I think that this guy at 2:00 has a point. I mean in a whole video :)
I think he is left oriented (which is not so god) but still, I think he has a point to say.
This is a really stupid question. Everyone in this video was born after 1948 and even after 1967
Why did you ( psome of Palestinians people surprendre)
For being able to give a reasonable answer of personal experience one must be at least a very smart and educated 12 years old at the time, meaning born before 1936, older than 87 today (FYI 87 is older than life expectancy of an infant born Today), surely such questions can not be directed at personal level.
BTW in 1931 the overwhelming majority of the population of the middle east (~90%) could not read or write, so apart from dementia there's scholastic aptitude issue.
Well we were born to this situation. I beleive they did not surrender, they had no power. They were kicked out of their homes and no Arab country stood with them.
They made a choice. A smart , humane, logical choice. Which no one other then them in the current ar ab is lamic can understand.
Faith and History is all in the Bible. Joshua, King Saul, King David, and King Solomon all settled this issue with God's direction.
Stupid question, there was a war between all the surronding arab countris and israel and israel managed to win, offcourse they didnt want to surrender, they actually really wanted to win and take all the land but failed to do so
it's like questioning the jews why did you surrender to the holocaust in Auschwitz?
@Lucy 🇵🇸 your logic is sick 1. We didnt kill you in gas chambers like germany did 2. Your people left israel during the war, because the arab leaders told you to leave until they will win the war and then return, whoever stayed in israel, today he is a citizen with full rights in israel.
Your propoganda is false cause you started the war and didnt accept the un participation plan, you lost and now cry? And if you won, what would you do to the jews? I prefer not to think, cause your terror organisations could really do what the germans did
They had no army or head of state. Who or what should have surrendered?
Palestinians, whether Jews, Christians or Muslims, had lived together peacefully for centuries. The Zionists, however, wanted the land only for themselves. From whom did the Palestinians want to take all the land, as you claim? They lived there for hundreds of years and most of the land was theirs. It is not only Muslims vs Jews. The Zionists drove the Christians out as well. In 1922 Bethlehem was 84% Christian, for example.. It is not difficult to see, who drove whom from their land.
I think the Covid years have made it obvious how dangerous a weapon the media are and how little we can trust their messages. Btw, that reminds me, are you aware of the story of the USS Liberty? In three days is the 56th anniversary, if I remember correctly.
@Christoph Grießner are you serious?, the jews accepted the partition plan offered by the un in 1947, the jews accepted it but all the surronding arab declared war on israel, for what purpose exacly do you think? I will tell you , to take all the land and leave the jews with nothing... they failed to do so and israel won..so who tried to drove out who? Trust me, if the jews lost the war, one inch the arabs wouldnt give them and probably no one would stay alive as well...
@@christophgriener9852 "The most peaceful religious" + "had lived together peacefully for centuries" - any proof?
Consider educate yourself:
1920 Jerusalem riots: In April 1920, violent anti-Jewish riots took place in Jerusalem, resulting in the deaths of several Jewish individuals.
1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine: This uprising against British rule in Palestine included attacks on Jewish communities by Arab militants. While it was not exclusively targeted at Jews, there were instances of violence against Jewish individuals.
Farhud (1941) - In Iraq, during World War II, a violent pogrom known as the Farhud occurred in June 1941, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 180 Jewish people and widespread destruction of Jewish property.
Aleppo pogrom (1947): In December 1947, an anti-Jewish pogrom took place in Aleppo, Syria, resulting in the deaths of dozens of Jewish individuals and the destruction of Jewish homes and businesses.
Being Jewish means attaining the sensation of two contrasting forces in nature, the egoistic force, which is our human nature, and its opposite altruistic force, which is the force of nature itself.
The attainment of these two forces define the people who, first under Abraham, developed this sensation of reality. They became known as the people of Israel, and later, as the Jews.
At a certain point, around 2.000 years ago, we lost the sensation of the two forces and lived solely in the egoistic force. That is the meaning of being in exile.
Exile has no geographic connotations, i.e. that we left some geographic Land of Israel and now we return to it. It is rather a matter of an inner exile, that we do not host the sensation of the altruistic nature, i.e. the quality of love, bestowal and connection, between us. When we fell from this sensation, we then entered our period of exile and ceased to exist as the people of Israel.
Jews never ever completely lived in exile, part of them stayed. From 70 CE onwards during most of the centuries Jews were the majority. For instance in a city like Jerusalem until 1948. This is the unbreakable bond between the Jews and the land of Israel. Next to the fact that during these centuries many Jews visited Israel (trade and learning), there always remained a strong relation towards each other and the land: Jews visiting the graves of the patriarchs in the four holy cities: Jerusalem, Hebron, Tsefad and Tiveriah. Instead of being so 'philosophical' you might dive into the history?
The 22 Arab states have almost no Jews or Christians, but the Jews are not entitled to the same?
What a brilliant argument to bring up in court. "oh your honour we jews have no state, so we stole other peoples homelands, lied and claimed we built it, and the Arab States have almost no jews or christians. As for Christians -good...considering the way everyone exploited his name i don't want there to be any Christian churches...yeah, I can do that. And as for jews...who cares? Territorial land is based on the law, legal rights, ownership. Don't you understand that. Not that anyone really gives a shit...I certainly dont
@@bmr4566 if you expect something from others than you should firstly expect it from yourself.
Perhaps israel needs to complete the exchange of populations? Whoever is hostile should be deported
Lebanon is 40% christian and the president is christian
Egypt is 10% christian (more than the whole population of israel)
Jews live today in Tunisia and Morocoo as citizens with full rights
Every arab country is diverse in its own way
@@nejmbrayek4711 Egypt - Christians persecuted.
Morocco - 2000 Jews.
Tunisia - 2000 Jews...
So much...
Arab/Israelis: Why do you continue to live with Israeli government rather than with hamas or pa?
Because they have roots there regardless of the goverments
Cette question me paraît brutale
I wasn't born yet bruv
So, they also decided for you 3,000 years ago as well.
I think Corey could have done a better job asking the many that said they didn't surrender because they were not born yet in 1948. Corey should have ask them if they think their parents, grandparents surrendered, in other words if their community surrendered.
It's actually surprising from him, we are used to see him pushing boundaries when interviewees escape questions
He should maybe sweep streets.
it's like questioning the jews why did you surrender to the holocaust in Auschwitz?
As American Indians to India...
@@ef2718 What American Indians have to do with India?
@@Anamorgan200It’s nothing like that; the Israelis didn’t send the Arabs to gas chambers. Had they done so none of these people would be alive.
ask palestinian freedom fighter please
"We are forced to live with them" - mentality of arabs in 1920 when jews arrived and arabs started rioting. This is what led to the current conflict.
This question is wrong, provocative to people already considered Israelis
I agree, it sounds very divisive.
Asking people why they surrendered in 1948 when they weren't even born yet in 1948. That's logic.
This was a dumb question. As these Palestinians in the video weren’t born yet.
He should have asked it as "nikhnatem" in second person plural past tense, in which case more people would have understood it as meaning "You, the Palestinian Arabs" and not "You," personally. But he used the second person singular past tense in Hebrew, "lama nikhnata"? for some reason "Why did YOU (meaning you as in individual) surrender".
it's like questioning the jews why did you surrender to the holocaust in Auschwitz?
no one surrendered....there was a cease fire agreement
the guy in the middle is delusional if he thinks an average 18-year-old Israeli has any job prospects or the ability to ever own real-estate in Israel lol
Hey Cory they didn’t surrender to the Jews they were massacred
the answer in very simple! they surrended because the jews in this areas got a millitary superiority important to remember in gaza strip, west bank and golan heighiest jews didn't got millitary superiority in 1948!
They did not surrender, they were defeated, they had no chance agist the well funded and well armed Israelis.
After the establishment of Israel the Arabs were placed under military rule for 19 years (until 1966).
@Corey please fix your mic
Ashkenaz jews or mizrahi jews or their mixed are more in israel,especially in youngest generation thst born after 2000.
They had a choice? Smh
Your faith in "good" people and your hospitality will be exploited later in the future. Now we see the results.
Sad story about the Bedouins.. Reminds me of the indigenous people in the country that is now called the USA. Or the indigenous people of the land that is now called Greenland. Or the Roma and Sinti population. Or the Molukkers in the Netherlands who were kept in former concentration camps. Wiki: "Geschiedenis van de Molukkers in Nederland".
Humans are a migratory species. Disparate groups are always bumping into one another, somewhere. Successful fusion cultures, in which the good parts of both cultures are retained, are a happy outcome. Sometimes, fusion happens slowly, over generations. Rarely, fusion doesn't happen at all. Then you have winners and losers.
Bashir, the Bedouin fellow, did not strike me as someone who struggles with modernity.
99.99% of humans transitioned from nomadic culture to stationary and Urbanic, boudins too have to make that transition, those who don't make that transition suffer but also enjoy and exploit the contradictions of a separatist nomadic desert warrior tribal culture with modern country.
The Bedouins took their animals and would graze them on farmlands that were planted for human food, they destroyed areas, felt that they should not abide by any rules others had to follow. They left their waste anywhere, grazed their animals anywhere, moved where they wanted, even onto private property.
It is not the 1800s or 1900s anymore. The entire population was 350,000 people in the entire land in 1860, today there are over 14 million people between Israel, Gaza and the Disputed Territories.
bedouins are indigenous to arabia not Judea
@@CCI320yeah well palestinians ate not beduin they are mainly levantine
Can somebody link us to the guy in maroon who had a very insightful answer of this question? He is a such a bright mind.
This would only put him in danger . You know the other side....
Yes please.
some comments on the guy at 2:00
1)there are no arab jews,we never felt as arabs and there was never an attempt to make us feel like arabs.besides the fact many mizrahi jews didnt even speak arabic(assyriac jews like my moms family,jews to turkey,iran,caucaus,central asia,jews who lived among berbers,ladino speaking jews),the middle eastern and north african jews didnt integrate into the arab population. assyriac jews and jews of iraq,iran,caucasus ans central asia married with one another and studied at each other's religious schools,and of them only iraqi jews spoke arabic on daily basis...the banishemtn of jews from across the muskim and arab world proves jews were never regarded as "arabs".
2)there were no "palestinian jews"-
the samaritans were forced over many years of persecution to convert to islam(sometimes just plain forced mass conversion)and now count less than 1000 people. half of them live within israel and all of them hace israeli citizenship and non of them participate in violence against israel.
as for the rabbanical jews-i think 1834 safe and hebron riots,1919 gaza banishments,1920 riots,1921 nabi musa riots and 1929 hebron ans safed riots show the arab population(especially the islamist one)never considered the ancient jewish communities here as "palestinian",and they certainly didnt view themselves that way..
3)zionism in the land of israel started the moment tanzimat(equal rights to non muslims) was granted across the ottoman lands. tel aviv oldest nieghbourhoods and west jerusalem oldest neifhbourhoods were built by yemenite jews under ottoman era.till 1939 israel had few hundred thousand jews.jews had wish to return to israel and maintained presence in israel all through history. they didnt want to uproot anyone-they were purchasing land from willing owners registered in ottoman land registry till 1947...the violence came when the islamists started violence against jews,all thw way back to 1884 petach tikva attack.
religious and ethnic groups who werent attacking the jews like circassians,certain christian villages,druze and samaritans were granted citizenship right when israel was created.
I think the most problematic statement (lie) he made was stating that Zionism calls for a state for Jews *only*
Clearly they surrendered
Why would they suddenly have a problem "surrendering" when the didn't for the last two millennia when the land was controlled by imperial and colonialist powers. Mind boggling to me.
Sometimes I get the impression that being an Arab Israeli is like being a North Korean. If someone asks you question as an Arab Israeli they stare into the abyss and say something the state would want them to say.
נכון מאוד. אין ברירה אלא לענות את מה שהצד השני רוצה לשמוע אם אתה רוצה להמשיך לחיות בכבוד ללא סכנה. אלא אם כן אתה אמיץ במיוחד להגיד את האמת שלך. בגלל זה השאלה עצמה מניפולטיבית.
They are more afraid of other people in their village considering them traitors and causing them harms, rather than what Israel would do to them. See the Druze guy's answer for example.
The state is not policing what they say. We don't know their particular situation. Each one of them may be considering what others in their family/clan/village might think and what Israeli Jews might think. At the end of the day many of them or their close relatives still go to shop into cities under PA control because it's cheaper there.
It’s nothing like being a North Korean. Netanyahu doesn’t kill the people who criticize him; Kim does.
2:04 all this man did was say a bunch of buzz words
Arab Israeli..Do You Attack Palestinian
Why ask this provocative question? What are you trying to learn?
Why is it privocative?
The Arabs that were living in Israel at its founding fled because their own leaders told them to, not because the Jews forced them out (one of the many Arab untruths). The neighboring Arabs believed that their combined armies would easily and quickly crush Israel and kill all the Jews, and then the displaced Arabs could return to their homes almost immediately. Having the Arabs out of the way would make that massacre easier. However, the Jews won that war. The Arabs that chose not to flee Israel became Israeli citizens and are living the best life of any Arabs in the Middle East. The Arabs that fled were herded by their own leaders into permanent refugee camps to be used as a propaganda weapon for again blaming the Jews. The irony is that virtually all of the fled Arabs were recent immigrants into Israel in the first place.
Do you want to continue with the lies israel tells the outside world and itself or is this enough for you
germans knows the best
Provocative question. When are you rocket scientists gonna learn that every Arab in 1948 was not a combatant who "surrendered"?
They won the war defensively, they draw the lines😊
It is illegal to gain land by war.
@@theredboneking How did the Muslim invaders do it? They bought the lands? BTW. The Israeli certainly did it in the beginning. After that the Arabs there gave it to the Jews after starting war and lose. .
@@simko8665 As of the 1907 Porter Convention, the 1920 Covenant of the League of Nations and the 1928 Kellogg-Briand Pact, culminating in Article 2(4) of Chapter I of the United Nations Charter. It is illegal to gain land by war. All land seized by Israel is unlawful and illegal.
@@theredboneking In general, the acquisition of territory through aggressive warfare is considered illegal under international law.
So far you are correct, but there are exceptions, where the acquisition of territory may be deemed legal or justified under international law.
For instance, if a state acts in self-defense against an armed attack, it may gain control over territory as a result of the conflict, which is exactly what happened with Israel.
Mansour - the cross is a Christian symbol. As a Christian you must follow the New Testament.
1 Timothy 1:4 - Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
We are ordered to forget genealogies which cause devision. People who claim to be Jews are Gods children, just like everyone else. God promised to deliver his chosen to Israel himself. This has yet to happen.
Stupid question to ask young folks Corey, don’t you think so?