USA VS the World; China
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- HLC takes a closer look at the military strengths and weaknesses of The United States and China. Who would win in this conflict? Stay tuned to find out more!
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The attack submarine MUST be a character! He can be the F22's underwater cousin
Give him a Lovecraftian horror theme..
Lovecraft type or Megadeth.
"Tremble you weaklings, cower in fear
I am your ruler on land, sea, and air
Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall
I'm a nuclear murderer, I AM POLARIS"
If he does this, I will send him a gracious care package and become a patron!
Submarine character should whisper all the time. Lives on dip coffee and alcohol. And is a know it all.
@@robert3622 "land, sea, and air" just made me think of GI Joe. Polaris is there!
"Accuracy through volume..."
Right now, there's a Phalanx operator saying "Really dude? You man a Patriot."
Yes this is true
GAU8 Avenger enters chat hehehehehehe
I laughed harder than I should have 😂😂😂
@@joshschneider9766 that's a horrible example
@@grey9803Any input?
Arleigh Burke was such a badass that they named a class of ships after him while he was still alive. his standing orders were "Destroyers to attack on enemy contact WITHOUT ORDERS from the task force commander." the man looked at every battle the US Navy lost and took away that US captains hadn't been aggressive enough. In his later career he's a big reason we have nuclear subs
Aye 31-knot Burke. A nickname well deserved.
Submarine vet here, we would have a field day with their boats if the government took the reigns off of the submarine fleet.
Yeah, the US Silent Service is Amazeballs. Scary AF.
i question that considering one of the US sub lost it nose crashing into the seabed while operating near China...
@lagrangewei question it all you want. Even though that happened, the boat still wasn't lost and only 1 person passed away.
@@lagrangewei and it wasn't near China.
That's exact mentality usa and us general MacArthur had in Korea. "It would be a slaughter"
"We'll be back home by Xmas".
Then reality happened.
Discussion of support aircraft reminded me of a great line from Ryan McBeth: “the US military is less an army and more a logistics organization which occasionally dabbles in combat”.
Facts
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It's disturbing how much stuff the US military can move inside of 24 hours.
Why? I find comfort in knowing my country overspends on war and no other country is really dumb enough too come over here and start anything @veleriphon
@@JamesSpattWe developed logistics capabilities and capacity because we're so goddamn far away from the majority of the rest of the world.
HLC, how could you forget the amphibious assault ships? We have 31 of them!
The amphibious ships and ability to put troops ashore are a significant factor when comparing the US with China, definitely a big omission.
Probably lumped in the "littoral" section.
@@araaraaura1887nope
We have eleven of them, the rest are LHDs. Still amphibious warfare vessels but they have a completely different set of capabilities. One carries a battalion of Marines a bunch of attack helicopters and some F-35s, the others carry half that number of Marines and a handful of helicopters.
I think it's partly he was comparing combat navy, not logistics. Yes, an Assault Ship lets you land the Marines, but that seemed to be factored into his plan with landing the Marines elsewhere.
"We have our own problems, but if you give us a reason to put those problems aside and get on the same team, you do not want to be on the receiving end of that" is probably one of those most relevant and badass quotes I've heard.
The uniting theory of f*** those guys
Shipbuilder here from NNS, building both CVN 80 and 81 and felt proud when you mentioned the two Ford class that are on the way. Proud to serve and proud to do my part!
uss enterprise is being rebuilt again so glad about that. stil cv-6 is my favorite carrier
One extremely important factor is that China has zero modern-day military experience. The lack of understanding military tactics can kill the best armed military.
This 100%. We have been fighting conflicts most of our countries existence. On top of the fact that in training we train for worst case scenario as well as handicap ourselves in war games just for the learning from those situations. On top of that the marines typically farm exp from armies until told to stand down.
@@ShaunFVG the amount of times the marines have outdid themselves is crazy
Don't forget China is also a multi-millennial civilisation.. They wrote the Art of war 😂
@@thewizardofthoughts4700 They also tried their best to erase any pre-CCP history and culture, so that doesn't exactly translate.
True! America has been changing the face of war for over 200 years.
The one thing that all the fanbois and Stans don't account for:
Iran, North Korean, China, Russia, etc. release info on their "scariest" weapons in an attempt to intimidate their adversaries.
The US keeps those things a secret for as long as possible, until warheads start pounding foreheads. For reference, look at the B2, F117, the Manhattan Project, and even the Katana Hellfire.
I don’t think we’ll ever publicly see the NGAD they might not even fly it in daylight ever.
We might already have seen it. Or at least the testbed anyway. What the Airforce asked for from NGAD is pretty similar to the B-21 Raider imo. I have no idea, but it's interesting.
nah concept designs and such are far different than the b21 raider. much smaller to start and less of that long horizontal body. @@reaperbsc
@@reaperbsc there was that patch and it supposedly showed the ngad but only time will truly tell.
Those concepts are just artistic renders. And I'm not saying the B-21 IS NGAD. But it's the best choice to test new tech meant for NGAD. And we know it's optionally manned. Just seems oddly similar to me in function.
"Why do we only have 3 frigates?"
Basically, we just started ordering them. They are being bought to fix the mistake that was the littoral ships.
The Navy invested heavily in the littoral ship program in a post soviet era when a near pier Naval threat was nonexistent. They are fast, light ships better suited to deal with pirates & terrorists than other warships. They were supposed to be multi-role ship with hot swappable mission packages, but that aspect failed to work. So the Navy essentially bought glass cannon ship, that didn't have a cannon (incidentally the same era as zumwalt destroyer).
The Constellation frigate is filling the smallest blue water ship role, but in a way that is much better suited for a navy meant to fight another navy. Think of them as mini-Burkes.
They are also three years behind, the first one just had her keel laid.
@@homeonegreen9 yeah sub-brief gave a revealing reality check. People (myself included) think there are multiple constellations already in the water right now. Not even close.
par for the course...domestic military productions has run a foul of the literal destruction of American manufacturing and industrial degradation
The constellation class demonstrates all the problems that exist in US procurement right now. If things had been done properly, the USN would have a fleet of them by now.
Ex Titan II launch officer here. Our greatest skill was computing launch times. We can do time math real good (sic). Salute to you! And subbed. Very entertaining.
U.S Navy "Hey boss so we got this ship" America "Can you strap a patriot to it?" U.S Navy "Uh.... no..." America "Do it!"
Kinda surprised that they haven't tried attaching one to the USS Constitution, "Don't Touch My Boats!"- US
@@kellhound7227 "Touch me if you can" probably USS Constitution
*random seabee * gimme time money and about 12 pallets of beer and I'll have it to you by lunch
@@austinbutcher8106 God bless the Sea Bees, you bunch of beautiful bastards.
4 patriot per vls cell and the production of patriot is 4x the standard missle series. Although they do cost alot more than a essm.
US vs China: A logistics puzzle that dabbles in war.
If we take the battle to them, wouldn't that just mean we are taking out the shipping time?
@@darylmorningGetting our troops and materiel to Kazakhstan and Kurdistan would be complicated by the fact that Iran would probably side with China and try to harass our flights, resulting in them getting glassed as a side quest. Think about where that stuff would have to come from, mostly through our European bases, Mediterranean fleet and maybe the Arabian waters.
(I know this is supposed to be Mano y Mano but I’m more of a realist.)
The Pacific action would look a lot like the run up to WWII with China stocking up its remote island bases and friendly foreign ports (I know, Mano y Mano vs realism) with everything they think they might need. Major differences are that the US now controls most of the places Japan used back then, and there won’t be another Pearl Harbor.
By the way, some strategists think that this is really why China wants Taiwan so bad, to use it as ports for its Pacific fleet and to base long range missiles. China could have similar plans for Japan. That could severely impact our Navy getting our Marines onshore.
_If fighting is sure to result in victory, then we must fight._
@HANKSANDY69420 Sun Tzu said that! and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal! because he invented it! and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
@@markfergerson2145 There's also the fact that Taiwan has chip fabs far more advanced than any tech the Chinese use. Computer chips have been a point where China stumbles a for a while now - the best computer chips are all produced by NATO members or Pacific allies.
Yamato and Musashi were the Japanese Battleships you wanted to remember the names of.
They learned to "DON'T TOUCH THE BOATS" the hard way.
Musashi was destroyed by carrier airstrikes, the Yamato was destroed by torpedoes.
Both courtesy of the the USN.
Those torpedoes were dropped by aircraft. Shinano was sunk by sub.
@@frednone Yes, but Shinano wasnt mention, and is an Aircraft Carrier not a battleship, (I know its a Yamato class Hull)
And I believe the Kirishima got aced by one of our battleships.
Both were sunk by carrier attacks.
Musashi took longer. They were attacking from two sides.
Yamato, they focused on one side until she was listing. Then finished her off from a torp to the exposed bottom.
HLC: *calls out my name and makes a your mom joke at me*
Me: "Man... that's a lot of jars of ashes that ship can carry."
I laughed, but ashamedly lmao
So glad you started off by letting China introduce itself as "The Great China"......I may have read the title as such too, with that same voice 😂
Oh I definitely did
@@dakotaellis7465 same
Yep. 😁
It's the Great Taiwan Mainland
I gotta admit, read it that way me own self
"I can teach you radar theory but i cannot do long division" As an EW troop, i feel you HLC. I feel you.
As an EW on the Ike. I feel you.
The timing of getting a Temu ad just before he started to talk about Wish and how to say Temu.
YESSSS PLEASE do mooooore breakdowns. They are very interesting especially the memes. But very informational!
28:03 this is 100% accurate. Patton said it best, “Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans, traditionally, love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle"
No kidding, if China lands on California I feel bad for them given the gang warfare there. If you survive THAT then you'll either wish for the compassion of our Military or reconsider that whole "take Canada" angle.
@@Atlas3060If they Land on Canada they would have to experience the Geneva Checklist
@@alvinbonny1562
Nah, the Canadians are too innovative to go back to proven strategies
@@keladwynsolkas I think they would be the reason for more absurd Geneva convention rules being created....
@@bfin Exactly
If it tells you how much we love the USS Constitution, we still have a whole forest in Indiana to service lumber for it. Brings a tear to my patriotic eye.
but why Indiana? kinda far. Maine is like 90% tree farm and a lot closer.
@@83917Michael specific type of tree. Yeah the logistics must be a nightmare. They planted a whole forest of white oak.
The only warship in the world that is… sustainably sourced??
Fuck yeah
@@lifevest1 The only one (Technically) still on the active service rolls, yes.
You missed the Amphibious Landing Ships, also known as "Lightning Carriers" because they carry the F-35 Lightning II (B). They are literally Marine Corps aircraft carriers. They can launch enough ships and aircraft to be an entire landing force by itself.
Really enjoying the breakdowns!!
Keep it up, LineCrosser!
Musashi and Yamato made for great artificial reefs. Might have done well in the years before the flat tops, but flattops made them obsolete. In the end, the Musashi Yamato and their sister ship Shinano, converted to a flat top, all sunk before they could do anything of note. The Shinano was the saddest lose for the Japanese, it wasn't even finished when a single US sub, the Archerfish found it by sheer accident and sunk it.
Speaking of Leyte Gulf.
Mitscher: Alright, well that’s the only mission for today. So, uh what do you girls want to do.
Intrepid: Can we have a piñata party?
Halsey: Don’t see why not.
(Musashi piñata drops down and TF 38 breaks out the baseball bats).
TF 38: Yaay!
To be fair the japanese never played the Yamato when they were supposed to. Yamato had to come out and play at midway not Okinawa. It's armor and ability to soak up hits would have been good to bodyguard the carriers.
I think the battleship class of warship still has use even today, it's just not as cost effective nor as proficient as other options.
The psychological warfare factor alone of a BB modernized to "solve" modern "problems" would break morale of any lesser naval power immediately upon encountering it.
Basically imagine a ship like Yamato and Musashi. But instead of traditional WWII style AA it would have murder R2D2 units all over her hull AND missile batteries alongside the main battery for ground pounding shores and ships alike. The missile defense system would become an iron dome of explosions at full tilt. Hundreds of missiles raining out from her hull as too the main battery going fucking ape shit targeting multiple ships at once per gun on each turret because let's be honest when a massive shell that weighs as much as a Toyota pickup is hitting your deck at the speed of sound you got no answer. You just got a hole in your decks. Which could be achieved via partial or total automation of the targeting systems for all defense batteries. You could even have short range nuclear ordinance hiding away under the water line in launch tubes for extra intimidation. A few sun bombs, if ya will. To go with your missiles and shells buffet if they're hungry for something more spicy still.
A modern nuclear power plant could supply the juice for all that and still maintain a speed advantage when push came to shove, plus no coal/oil to supply. Which means more firepower onboard. Which would most likely be mostly missiles as to volume of main munitions. Though total it would be our good old R2D2 with anger management issues. Lol.
weight wise it'd be a toss up between missiles and shells.
Hell if you can get the power plant strong enough we could have a partial or total rail gun battery as the main armament. That would be fucking terrifying, now it's not a Toyota hitting you at the speed of sound but a Toyota hitting you at Mach 10. PLUS the 100 smaller missiles for extra flair if that wasn't somehow enough.
A ship like that would NOT be cost effective, but a hell of a power move and psychological beat down of enemy morale. Imagine 5 of those ships, one on each front. Guiding the lead as the lead ship in the fleet in the AO with the CVs and crew just HAMMERING the enemy into submission to Davy Jone's locker. Lmfao.
I don't care what you chuck at a ship like that, with that design. It WILL kill everything and move on. Go ahead, try to overwhelm and clog her AA with planes. It'll just result in a fireball of missiles/bullets before she trudges forth and gives your CV's a beat down for the history books.
The only real drawback would be fitting enough ordinance. But if you automate most systems, the crew can be small in size. Which means mostly engineers and a few vital personnel as to command/fire teams. Thus their crew quarters can be minimal. Allowing more storage for munitions. Thousands of missiles and shells, millions of rounds of bullets for the R2D2 psychos. And a few nuclear missiles for that extra kick.
Would probably cost a cool 20 billion to build, but looks to me like Uncle Sam has that in spare change for the military industrial complex. Fuck i would be more happy seeing THAT monster being built in a dry dock, than them putting trains on the fucking moon or whatever stupid shit they say they're doing. Lol.
That isn't about making a efficient naval vessel, it's about making a nightmare made manifest. The WORST thing you can possibly meet on the ocean waves as to a BB, in the modern day.
I hope you enjoyed the read, figured i would share this idea given it's such a meme ship i can't help but share it. I think the class name would probably be "Terror." Given that embodies what it is. Terror incarnate. :)
@@MA_KA_PA_TIEbut if they did that they'd risk loosing the Yamato, and that would be devastating for morale, so they had to keep Yamato and it's armor and firepower as far away from important major battles as possible... completely defeating the purpose of having a super battleship...
I looked up the sinking of the Yamato. My references show consistently 10 aircraft. 12 men. Even the US Navy's specialized aa cruisers had trouble stopping air attacks. The radar fuse was a huge advance though. Musashi cost 18 planes. If you want to see an excellent presentation of the Japanese side of the naval war, read Japanese Destroyer Captain. The "mighty" Japanese navy is way, way overstated and completely neutered by the Army. After 1942, the vaunted torpedo attacks just never happened due to rapid deployment of radar. Essentially, the was was over by late 1943.
“You own the waters, you own the world”
You hold the orbitals you hold the planet
@@stevenhunley9486 you fire all missiles straight up and Captain Kessler controls spacetravel for the next decade.
"Control the media, Control the mind..."
~ Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun
Mongols disagree
@@ashleg8350 Helium is optimal! oh wait thats russia
Titus said it best. "We build monster trucks....for fun. We build topfuel funny cars...for fun.... we build air cannons thay launch pumpkins a mile....for fun piss us off...see what we build"
which is why war against the US is best fought using unconventional means. Psychological, Information, Economic, Biological and Cyber.
@@hughmungus2760Biological would just result in a nuclear exchange. The others are somewhat viable though
@@Hakar17 make no mistake biological can be released without knowing who it originated from thanks to the porous US border and the sheer number of enemies the US has made.
I’m so happy this is a series…keep it up!
If u ever do a USA vs China part 2, I volunteer myself as tribute for free Chinese translation services. Greetings from Taiwan 🇹🇼
I support that random guy to translate stuff
@@victorpardoherrera643 thanks for the support mah dude. This just popped into my head so I thought I should maybe help with translation. When a while ago, a scathing report came out on Chinese Rocket Force having their rocket filled with « water », I was actually quite intrigued and went digging into the OG source, and it kinda confirmed my suspicion. You see, in mainland China, when they wanna say something is broken or made with shitty quality, they say « that shit is filled with water », or « 進水 ». In Taiwan we kinda also use this but we mainly use it as an insult saying « 媽的你腦袋進水 », which directly translates to mother fucker your head is filled with water, or colloquially translated to mofo ur dumb as shit. So, when China said their rockets are « filled with water », they technically meant their rockets are useless, badly maintained, and of shitty quality. Still basically means the same as « rockets filled with water » though.
Honestly, though, I can never see a scenario where the USA would fight the Republic of China. Maybe that rebellious West Taiwan, but not the ROC.
@@victorpardoherrera643 thanks for the support dude. So about the whole report about Chinese rockets filled with water, when I heard that I was suspicious, so I went to look at the original report and sure enough it confirmed what I was thinking. Basically, in mainland China, « filled with water » is used colloquially to indicate something is not working or terrible quality. Side note, in Taiwan we use it as an insult to call someone dumb, that is if we ain’t using Taiwanese. Anyway, I hope this translation gives it context. So no, Chinese rockets under their rocket force are not actually technically filled with water, but symbolically they might as well be, cause it basically still means their rockets are either badly maintained, don’t work, or just straight up low quality. Like imagine if they shot a nuke and it looses power immediately and gets blown up on the pad.
@@JustThatOneRandomGuy the more you know, each language is always full of nuances but I think even more with the chinese, hope you can help if another videos pops up 🇹🇼💪🏼.
The "Kid" and the Seawolf's would get along really well.
The Kid: "Wait I can swim?!"
Seawolf: "Wait, there's a me that flies?!"
@@Atlas3060 HLC needs to make this convo happen...lol
All 3 Seawolfs?
Wait until the kid hears the seawolf didn’t get a single intercept or whatever the navy term for an intercept.
@@Kriegsmen-7803 They'd get along just fine. They'd relate in their suffering.
Yes more breakdowns please. Love this type of stuff. Hate see actual war and the inhumanity involved but it's very interesting to see how all the chess pieces would move. Thanks HLC love the videos.
Awesome fun fact, the USS Constitution is the oldest commissioned warship still afloat in the world.
And still technically in use.
Can you imagine, nuclear black out, we still have the only ship that works and it can still level cities
Fun fact: the government operates a forest in Pennsylvania to supply the Navy with white oak for repairing the USS Constitution.
Doesn’t the title of “oldest warship” belong to the HMS Victory of the British Royal Navy?
@@SpaceCase132 HMS Victory doesn't float, and it's "cannons" are just pyrotechnic tricks, it's technically commissioned yeah, but since it's got a hole cut in it below the waterline to serve as an exit for the gift shop, it'll never float again. Constitution can still sail (It is usually towed by tugboats though just for safety reasons) and it has actual working cannons.
Not according to one famous gunslinger. He used to say, "It ain't how fast you draw, but how well you aim." And when he was finally shot, it was an assassination to the back of the head as he played cards.
🤔 you're not typically playing cards meters away from the enemy in a war, and if you're dealing with overwhelming short range artillery vs overstretched long range artillery, the short range artilery is going to cause more damage unless the long artilery is very, very quick and consistent to always stay out of range, limiting effectiveness.
Bill Hickock.
Pair 8s and a pair of aces.
@@johngavin3180The Dead Man's Hand.
Wild bill hickock
Informative and fun.
Thanks!
Just gonna say I absolutely love this “USA VS The World” series. I am really big into war gaming the “what if” scenarios. Love your content man.
The funniest part of wargaming these hypothetical situations is that the more you do it the more you realize that nobody even comes close to being able to engage the US unless you take out all outside factors and handicap the US beyond what is reasonable and assume the absolute best scenario possible for a theoretical opponent.
27:57 "The hardest part for the general public at that point in time is pretending they're not excited" LOL, REAL.
At least a quarter of our populace would ABSOLUTELY be down with a Chinese invasion.
As the saying goes: There is a gun behind every blade of grass
And the US has more guns than people
"If you give the American people a reason to push their own problems aside and come together as one, you do not want to be on the receiving end of that".
Hell yeah, man.
Yeah just ask the Japanese
That's such a fact because we're all pissed off about something. You give every one of us a common enemy then they're about to feel so much wrath that they'll be thankful when they arrive in hell.
@@wareagle0425WDE
Merica
Amazing breakdown! My only concern (🇨🇦 here) is how many troops they have here already. For years we’ve had rumours and some video evidence that they’re amassing on land/in facilities the CCP has purchased, and back in 2016 there was a quietly passed bill here that said they could have their military personnel on “their” property here without having to notify OUR military. I wanna say it was a NORTHCOM archived article I read….wish I still had the link to it. I agree the variables are astronomical and there’s no real way to predict what conflict is gonna look like in the future.
Excellent work!
Well thanks for the video on my birthday.
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From the Dept of the Boat People Bullets, Beans and Black Oil! I've said this before, but the U.S. Navy, literally, wrote the book on underway replenishment.
Unless the ship needs to reload VLS missiles.
Hey, I just deliver them. I don't do reloads.
These are mint videos man keep it up !
Well said brother, Thank you for the presentation.
I forget the creator, but I saw a video that went over how the US could realistically fight the entire world combined and possibly win. It involved a 3 pronged strategy of a naval blockade of China, air strikes destroying all military and oil production Facilities in the Middle East, and a mass artillery bombardment followed by a land invasion of Canada to secure Canadian oil and then hold until the other nations cannot support a war effort due to no fuel
Trying to hold Canada would be a bitch. If we were to invade I’d try to keep their independence and just replace their government which tbh currently many wouldn’t mind that.
Probably the infographics show, it’s a pretty old vid iirc
@@curiousentertainment3008 Canada is easily taken lol yes there’d be some gorillas but over 75% of their population is under the 49th parallel all the major cities would be captured very quickly because they are all right on the border. Plus from the negative view I hear about Trudeau idk if he had the balls to fight a unified gorilla war. And there’s actually a decent amount of pro American movements such Alberta there’s actually a decent movement for Alberta to be annexed by America. Throughout history Canada has known this and their entire plan was just to hold out until the UK could come in and save the day but the UK wanted nothing to do with them lol.
Might've been Infographics. I think the strategy for a non nuclear war makes sense. We could take Canada without dealing with their cities and blocking their ports. China might be a bigger challenge though...
Was it hold Canada for the oil or maple syrup?
"Mongoloids with Missiles" OK you got a genuine laugh out of me with this one, that was good!
Loved the video. Probably more breakdowns.
Great video and congrats on 600k!
You missed a few different important ships like the amphibious landing ships (San Antonio Class) and the Amphibious Assault Ships (America class), but the coolest thing that's recently come up in response to the Pacific is the Expeditionary Mobile Base. Look up the USS Lewis B. Puller, that's a cool concept that can really make a difference in the middle of the ocean.
I did see that one briefly bit I did not look into it I will in the future
Arleigh Burke was Captain (later Admiral) during WW2 in the pacific theater. I served on the USS Cape St. George (CG-71) which was named after his most famous battle. In general our Cruisers are named after battles, and Destroyers are named after people. Fast attack subs are usually named after cities and the ballistic subs are named after states. Carriers are usually named after Presidents and Admirals.
WOO! CAPE!!!! Always Victorious!
Arleigh Burke was the only man to serve three two-year terms as Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) 1955-1961. He was also the most junior Admiral to be chosen as CNO. He was a Rear Admiral (2 stars) and never served as a Vice Admiral (3 stars).
Enterprise, Lexington, Saratoga and Shangri-la: “Ah yes.. we’re presidents or admirals.”
First groups of SSBN were mostly named for historical figures, i.e. Lafayette (SSBN 616), Daniel Webster, Kamehameha, etc.
@@KRDecade2009that was the old name style for carriers, originally it was for historic battles, which is why you get those names, eventually it transitioned
These are great, solid work.
This was an awesome video👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
"you're wrong, nothing can hurt the Great China"
You got that wrong. It's Chiinnaaah....
Ha, yall are both wrong!. .. it's West Taiwan!
@@anubis20049999
Actually it's the PRC .
Yeah write.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165🤓
On submarines, we have one that's very special. USS JIMMY CARTER. She's a modified Seawolf with an extra 100' added in for secret squirrel stuff. Plus the guided missile Ohio class boats can carry SEALs.
Thank you for what you do!!!
HLC I just saw video and wanted to wish you Happy Memorial Day and Thank you for your service.
Amateurs study tactics, Masters study logistics. HLC is definitely showing he is a master. War doesn't determine whose right war determines whose left.
Experts talk intelligence
supply chains and military production is a seriously overlooked factor. The US would burn through its entire stockpile of conventional long range munitions in a month of fighting and if China's military is still standing. the US would lose that war.
I already know the comments are gonna get filled with bots.
Yep
No doubt. Cant win a real argument when ur evil. Gotta fake it
Says User blah blah
Nope
For real get a real name
Finally, I’ve been trying to remember to watch these
Bro more breakdowns this was awesome!!!
I love that you have basically made a "blooper reel" video without even trying, the "erectile disfunction advert" was especially funny. Hello from New Zealand HLC, keep churning out the content.
Lets see if Habitual Linecrosser crosses any lines with DA GREAT CHINA....
Fun thought experiment! Thanks for the analysis
Well alright. I’ve been a fan for a while now but this is the first time I’ve watched an analytical video from you. Typically I’ve looked for the countries/weapons systems with faces for a quick laugh, but this topic piqued my curiosity, and frankly, I’ll be looking for more of these after watching this. Your insights are realistic, insightful, and in depth. You identified different weapons systems in a manner that was informative but not overwhelming, letting this old Canadian peacekeeper ingest and assimilate the various elements without being swamped by the nonessential elements that so commonly become brain draining background noise that information can’t pass through. You’re the real deal sir. Thank you for an informative and entertaining dissertation on a possible dust up between two world powers. I’ll be looking for more in the future.
8:54 FE’s head pops up “It’s the Yamato, you idiot!” 😎
Either you or Fat Electrician needs to do a video on Sargent Stubby! Most decorated animal in US history
Why not both?
You know that's right up TFE's alley
Polish bear Wojtek enters the chat.
@@HanSolo__ Wojtek is Polish.
This means he wouldn't be the most decorated animal in US history.
Thanks dude, enjoying these 1 to 1 comparisons between military powers
Love the content brother!! Please keep it up👍😎🇺🇸
Love these videos
The reason we have so little frigates is because the u.s had planned for the LCS ships to replace them, upon seeing just how bad the lcs ships perform they ( recently) decided we still need frigates and decided to place orders for new frigates to be built. I believe the new frigates our navy is supposed to be getting are based on the french design
What's wrong with an LCS? Genuine question
@@alecmullaney7957 honestly there were so many problems and I genuinely suck at explaining ( and writing 🤣) so I'll just post a link to a video that does it pretty well. One thing that I do know was a serious problem was overall reliability
ruclips.net/video/RTWo8NWQrdo/видео.htmlsi=drh6RS88QW7ADwm_
@@alecmullaney7957 they were originally supposed to be cheap, low crew requirement asw/mine clearing vessels for fighting against navies like iran. Then lobbyists, the military industrial complex and mission creep got involved and they wound up with a near toothless ship spec'd for 40 knots that can't safely exceed 20, which was supposed to cost 220m per and instead costs ~600m per and has the operating cost of a full sized destroyer. Also, only a couple of the planned modular mission modules are ready and are apparently not as good as they were originally supposed to be.
@@isaacdoggart4879 thanks
@@alecmullaney7957 Basically everything. The Independence class has structural problems and the Freedom class has mechanical problems coupled with design issues that made it unsuited for a third of its mission profile
Been hyped about this one since the iran one. Banger intro btw, very early RUclips-esque.
A HLC can you do other countries as well,like Switzerland versus Norway love your content
Great stuff.
We also have the capability to come up from Aussieland, Philippines, and potentially Viet Nam (they hate the Chinese, and with growing economic partnerships we could work a deal to maneuver up and into China, as a tertiary consideration) alongside Thailand and the Himalayan Range as you mentioned (that's a tough maneuver obviously). Also South Korea as a staging and logistics deployment hub.
Good stuff!!! Keep up the fire bro.
I wouldn't be surprised if Philippines willing to lend their airfields and stuff, but that's assuming that China won't attack us (Philippines) in the first second. Considering that we've been "fighting" (not much we can do, really) with them over sea territories for years, it's not surprising if they have a grudge for that.
Not to mention, the Philippines is essentially a massive sea port with where it is located, connecting SEA and the rest of Asia easily; it's a massive asset to have, WW2 for example. But that just raises the possibility that they'd attack us first.
@@Eis_ Philippines are certainly a strategic location/ asset, guaranteed joint Pacific Command multi-national forces would be moving in to secure and protect and utilize our friendly nation there. The US has already increased Marine Corpse presence and training there so it makes sense.
Vietnam is going to stay neutral unless china attacks it first. The last thing they want is to be turned into a battlefield for superpowers again.
Corvette = SIze / LCS = Role Freedom & Independence were designed specifically to be used on close to shore missions, not really intended to engage other near peer naval vessels.
Oh shit thank you I learned something new today 🤘
I thought those were also being cancelled because of numerous issues with the ships, and the ones still being constructed are being sold off?
@@logicplaguenot only were they canceled but the few that we do have are being given to the Coast Guard
@@Wyomingchief really? I heard they are being scrapped because of their numerous engine problems.
@logicplague2077 The independence and freedom class are but I don't think the littoral is gonna be abandoned just yet.
Really liked your breakdown
You are the man, brother. Keep this up, hooah!
LMFAO bro that “do you suffer from ED” moment at :40 was fucking hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I spat out my drink accidentally, did not see that sht coming at all
Same here dude 😂
I really LOVE these. Please keep making them.
I absolutely love this series!!!!!!!!
Love the long form!
HLC, let me bail you out. You're thinking of the IJN Battleship designated, "Yamato."
She had a sister ship with an m name, too, was the same size I believe
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That would be the Musashi
@@BouncingZeussister ship was musashi and the third Yamato class ship shinano was converted to an aircraft carrier.
And they all make fantastic coral reefs
@@Wyomingchief And also great studies into the evolving combat dynamics of the times and how it was becoming increasingly obvious great Ships of the Line and their equivalent like most post Dreadnought battleships were becoming obsolete thanks to the great threat envelope Aircraft Carriers possessed.
In a global conflict the number of redshirts they have to move and supply is probably a hindrance, their blue water navy isn't combat experienced and will learn the hard way, while the air force may be able to supply the quantity needed it's going to be a priority target in any conflict. China is a t rex, strong but limited in range.
Happy memorial Day man thank you for your service God bless you and your family
I’m sorry, but you’re commentaries just coming into my recommendation for some reason. I can’t believe this time, time to binge watch if there’s more!
More long form content. Lets go!
Thank you so much it makes me feel great that you guys really enjoy these videos
These are a great mix of entertaining and informative
Please make more in this style 🤙
LOVED THE BREAK DOWN! CAN YOU DO NORTH KOREA NEXT? I LOVE YOUR SHOW AND SORRY I GOT CHATTY.
Love these Rock on Young Man!
Keep up the great content. All the hard work and long hours really shows
Arleigh Burke was a Destroyer officer in the Second World War. Once when asked what he was doing, he replied, "33-knots!" The story differs between him leading his Destroyers through a Minefield at 33-knots or doing something else I totally forget right now. You can guess which one is more popular.
He also liked to live by Halsey's creed of 'Hit Hard, Hit Often, Hit Fast.'
Please keep these usa vs the world and your other materials going my wife and I love it and you do a great job. Your short clips always get me laughing.
US Constitution does rum voyages and you can buy bottles of rum marked with the barrel number, pour, and voyage(s) listed on the bottle
A lot of research, but executed to your typical master class, HLC.
Love your stuff, HLC. You overlooked the Zumwalt stealth destroyers, which are actually sized as battlecruisers, and are being equipped with 12 X hypersonic strike missiles, each. We have 3 of these.
That program was canceled. There will only ever be 2 and they never got the railguns they were built for. Something about parts melting.
@@reaperbscThe three existing Zumwalts are being fitted with those large hypersonic as I type this. They started removing the turrets a few days ago.
Hmm... I didn't realize we finished building the third one. I assumed they wouldn't waste the money finishing it after the program died. They are cool, but not much better then a Burke. We don't even need hypersonic missiles. We already have stealth missiles to beat radar. That doesn't add any new capabilities.
@@reaperbsc actually, there are no other nations on earth that possess a stealth battlecruiser, armed with hypersonic missiles. And we have 3, so that's nice I guess. 😉
And you can bet the Chinese carrier captains are particularly unhappy about it. 😁
Yeah, it's neat. Especially if it could have lived up to its full potential. In the end it's just a harder to hit Burke with an insane price tag.
Hey HLC, this is the first breakdown that I've checked out. I like it. As you can see from my avatar I am, or was a US Navy sailor and I agree with most of your readout of USN vs PLAN. But I have to say that, brother ... a ground war against the PLA is not something I would want to do. The principal reasons are the ones you pointed out ... logistics, logistics and also logistics.
Love your stuff man, keep up the good work.
yeah immagine running a logistics chain into mongolia, which is landlocked by China and Russia. To what? Hopefully win a land war against china in a region with zero defensive terrain, no friendly airfields and very little in transport infrastructure?
How are the US suppose to even move around in the gobi desert? By sandworm?
The USS Constitution is the reason that the Navy maintains a 50,000 acre "base" in the middle of Indiana, 750 miles from any salt water. It is "Constitution Groove" where they make sure that the are enough old growth White Oak trees available to be available repair Old Ironsides, while also ensuring that the harvesting of these trees doesn't cripple the building of the forest/ ecological preserve.
You forgot the ability to reactivate the 4 Iowa class battleships that were refitted in the 80’s with Phalanx, CIWS, Harpoon Missiles, Tomahawks, and brand new fire control systems for the 16 in guns.
I'd have to go back through the Battleship New Jersey's videos, but I'm pretty sure Ryan has pointed out why they could no longer be reactivated.
While yes we probably can't get the Iowas going again
We all know what they can do by asking Iraq how well did things go when we released the Missouri and Wisconsin
@@robertlewis8295 Yeh not true. Ryan is just saying that. The NAVY looked into this and only the Wisconsin and the New Jersey are capable of being put back into service. Not very well kept secret that the NAVY wants them back for Island hoping in the South China Sea. This would only be a stop gap till DARPAs next gen Battleship project can be implemented. They found that it would cost just over $2billion to put a Iowa Class back into service and about $2.5billion per new DARPA Battleship but thats about 10 years out if they decide to do it. $2billion is chump change for the NAVY I think they will do it.
All four technically are no longer part of the Naval Reserve. New Jersey is owned by the State of New Jersey, I think Big Whisky is the only one that could still be brought back up.
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I love this longform content, keep it comin!
The Kid: Has anyone ever told you, "you suck?" 😂😂😂
I love how you talk to your characters while doing this LOL