Honda CB650R | 3 Ways Traction Control 'SAVED' me

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • Traction control is one of those tech that has trickled down from larger capacity bikes to smaller bikes and in this category of motorcycles it is a rarity that traction control is fitted to a bike in this category. Fitted on the Honda CB650R is the HSTC (Honda Selectable Torque Control).
    In this video I will show you how the traction control has activated during my experience riding this bike.
    0:00 - Intro
    0:29 - TC display on HUD and toggle
    2:25 - Ducati Monster wheelspin
    2:47 - Scenario 1 - Slippery surface
    3:02 - Scenario 1 - Slippery surface in action video
    4:44 - Scenario 2 - Speeding through a speed bump
    5:07 - Scenario 3 - Accidental wheelie
    5:23 - Scenario 3 - Accidental wheelie in action video
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Комментарии • 79

  • @dinohuntr851
    @dinohuntr851 3 года назад +7

    Thanks, brother! I haven’t touched the traction control on my CB650R. Haven’t really understood what it does. Thanks!!

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +2

      No problem bro. Glad it’s useful. I personally leave it on probably for the best I don’t think I’m skilful enough and not risking the perfectly brand new bike.

    • @xuanmohamed8441
      @xuanmohamed8441 2 года назад

      @@RUBBERNMETAL how much if convert to Malaysian ringgit

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      @@xuanmohamed8441 how much for what ya bro? Let me know.

  • @anonharingenamn
    @anonharingenamn 3 года назад +6

    Nice. I was looking for a video of the CB 650R traction control in action. Thank you for showing me with multiple angles and all.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Thanks for your comment and glad you find the video useful. Ride safe!

  • @jetset47400
    @jetset47400 3 года назад +6

    Great to see traction control in action. Thanks for sharing this

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      No problem glad you enjoyed it. It’s my first bike with traction control so I was really intrigued by it.

  • @muhammadfauzi5495
    @muhammadfauzi5495 2 года назад +3

    Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the real-life experience on HSTC.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment! Glad you find the video useful.

  • @jmt7981
    @jmt7981 3 года назад +1

    Kudos to all your blog i really enjoyed and very informative i love it! 👍👍👍

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Thanks my friend! I’m glad you enjoy them.stay safe!

  • @carlosfrancovar
    @carlosfrancovar 3 года назад +7

    Excellent demonstration of the operation of the HSTC. I will have my new CB650R Neo Sports Cafe soon and have been reading about this feature. You show us very clearly the moments where it works. Great video! Thanks!

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video!
      Excited for your new bike hope it’s a 2021 with updated features. Ride safe!

  • @turpal-alidudaew8553
    @turpal-alidudaew8553 3 года назад +6

    Trust me the traction control on my cb650r saved my life several times

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +2

      Oh man... glad it did. In what situation did it save you? My habit it to Leave them turned on by default.

    • @baruchzoe1219
      @baruchzoe1219 2 года назад

      Saved me on a right turn hit some dirt almost fell off I felt the rear tire sliding but also the TC working to keep my body and the bike up right

  • @BluesIsAlright
    @BluesIsAlright 3 года назад +2

    Thank for sharing this, very useful!!

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      No problem glad you enjoyed it! Stay safe!

  • @milosmilosevic1695
    @milosmilosevic1695 2 года назад +2

    Traction control on my XMax saved me a few times. It's not about the power of the engine, it's more about road condition, so I would say all bikes should have it.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      That’s great to hear. Yea sand and loose gravel would be something that requires the TC. No Michelin/Bridgestone can save us from that.

  • @johnnyhun1
    @johnnyhun1 6 месяцев назад

    i think this stuff saved me a couple times... :D I ride in winter too (when its above freezing point of course) and the roads are so slippery and at high rpms the back wheel always want to spin out

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks bro! I’m buying this bike and I wasn’t sure how effective the traction control would be. Looks like it can definitely save you from disaster. I wish the wheelie control was separate from the TC though.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  5 месяцев назад +1

      Congrats on your bike again! Yea the traction control is not sophisticated as it only cuts you in abruptly but sometimes simple is good as it won’t go wrong. Wheelie control? Nah you don’t need it for this bike it won’t pull a wheelie unless you really mean it.

  • @intoxu1946
    @intoxu1946 3 года назад +1

    Very useful. I'm a new rider, and the cb650r is my 1st bike, so I always wondered in which kinds of situations I'd need the traction control.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment and congratulations on your awesome purchase. Hope you got the 2021 model with the new updates.

    • @intoxu1946
      @intoxu1946 3 года назад +1

      @@RUBBERNMETAL indeed I did! Got the pearl smoky grey one. Still breaking into it, and it's hella fun! Ride safely!

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      @@intoxu1946 ahh ok i dig the new grey colour. If I’m not mistaken you posted on the Cb650r group about your bike recently... could be a different person tho. Anyways have fun breaking in the bike and ride safe too!

    • @outlook507
      @outlook507 2 года назад

      @@RUBBERNMETAL why 2021?

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      @@outlook507 because when i made that comment in 2021. Hence that was the latest then.

  • @vintagerealityvr
    @vintagerealityvr 3 года назад +5

    It's amazing in the first video of how fast traction control stands up a bike. I've never seen it in slow motion like that

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +1

      I find it scary when it first kicked in my first instinct was thinking there was something wrong. Cos I was used to sliding on the monster. But yea it kicked in pretty instantly.

    • @vintagerealityvr
      @vintagerealityvr 3 года назад +2

      @@RUBBERNMETAL not even how fast it kicked in but just how fast it stood the bike upright! The times the HSTC kicks in on mine is the same experience - 1 accelerating too hard on slippery/wet surfaces and 2 accelerating too hard when turning from a stop (like taking a right hand turn off after a red light). I like how they tuned the traction control, it really only kicks in if it's supposed to. ✌️

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      @@vintagerealityvr ahh I’ve had my Ducati monster do a slight drift while getting out of a right hand junction on a rainy day. No fun man! I’m grateful for the HSTC too leaving them on is for the best.

  • @jakubjerzak2981
    @jakubjerzak2981 3 года назад +1

    Maybe it's not neccessary but it's better to have it than not. Thanks for showing this.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      No problem. Yes that’s true it’s a safety net in case of anything and I can imagine the tech’s appeal to newer riders who want to get onto bigger machines.

  • @ComandanteJ
    @ComandanteJ 2 года назад

    Yeah, first time it activated on mine it was quite scary.
    Its not very smooth because our bike is not ride by wire. That's why the quickshifter is up only, and why it doesnt have any cruise control.
    But in the 3000km i've done on mine it has saved me more than once. Some of the roundabouts where I live are very polished, and slippery. It also works nice when encountering debris like sand or gravel.
    In my opinion, every bike should have it. It has actually saved my ass more times than ABS has.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад +1

      Hi there glad to hear your experience and how it has been useful for you. It’s not a sophisticated setup but it’s useful enough to save us from sticky situations glad to have it.
      For me it has activated when I glide over potholes tho which is a weird sensation. Straight reaction is “is my bike broken?” 😂

  • @shosholozabalafon2436
    @shosholozabalafon2436 2 года назад

    i Experienced the same thing two days ago, accidental wheelie on a green light , i was a bit enthousiastic when the green light went on and the HSTC kicked to counteract my optimistic twist of the wrist !

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  Год назад +1

      Haha did you think “shit somethings wrong with my bike” for a moment?

    • @shosholozabalafon2436
      @shosholozabalafon2436 Год назад +1

      @@RUBBERNMETAL 😄Yep ! i was so worried i stopped and searched for something unusual on the bike before realising the HSTC may have been involved since i thought i spotted a light flashing on the dashboard.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  Год назад +1

      @@shosholozabalafon2436 yea it’s just the bike doing it’s thing. I get it nowadays from skipping over potholes or running over sand while accelerating. It gets better once you get used to it.

  • @alexanderkorchagin67
    @alexanderkorchagin67 Год назад

    thanks for the explanation

  • @TopshelfJunior
    @TopshelfJunior 3 года назад

    What helmet cam is this ? Looks great !!! Is it the Sena ?! Cam + mic are great !!! Keep it up. Thanks for sharing.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Thanks for the compliment bro!
      Btw I’m using a Sony HDR AS300 but connected to a mic that is supposed to be for my Bluetooth headset (VIMOTO V8).

  • @dsofe4879
    @dsofe4879 2 года назад +1

    I hate that toggle, TBH. I keep hitting it when I'm going for the clutch, especially in bad weather when I'm wearing thicker gloves. Which is exactly when you'd want TC not to be accidentally switched off.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      Yea man!! That’s true. Sometimes I wonder when I switched the tc off to only realise that it’s accidental due to wearing thicker gloves.

  • @dben9986
    @dben9986 3 года назад +1

    Hello, SG fella here. Got my license just before the lockdown. So I never got the chance to ride into msia. Just wanna know how do you prevent motorcycle theft in msia? SG too safe, our street smart not very high hahaha

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Hi there. No worries big bike theft is not an issue in Malaysia (happens but very rarely) thieves tend to go for the higher range kapcais. The thieves however love to steal brake calipers and brake pumps so the best is to avoid leaving bikes with brembo or high end brake equipment in dodgy areas. Your best deterrents in this case are alarmed caliper brake locks and caliper lock nuts.

  • @MosesTheExplorer
    @MosesTheExplorer 3 года назад +1

    I'm getting this bike as a new rider, so turning it on it's safer and better?

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +1

      Hi there, even as an experienced rider, I'd leave it on (it's on by default everytime you turn on the bike). Its additional safety and doesn't intrude you unless you plan to do silly things like wheelies and slides.

  • @hegnermuri
    @hegnermuri 3 года назад +1

    Can you put link to side mirrors?

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +1

      Hey bro. I bought it from a Malaysian website but I found this one on Ali express looks exactly the same from the photos. Here you go.
      a.aliexpress.com/_mM3PNrF

  • @sundipchakraborty9180
    @sundipchakraborty9180 3 года назад

    Hey ! Nice gloves 👌🏽

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      Thanks dude! they're Dainese air something... best gloves I've owned so far.

  • @magmafist
    @magmafist 3 года назад +1

    I've put 20,000 km on my CB650R. Always disable Traction control. Rode on road, wet, rain, semi-off roads, track, never had problem.
    Sure, I slipped rear wheel a few times in deep lean cornering / U turns, but good delicate throttle hand saved me every time
    You should test ride a Trident 660 when it comes available later and compare

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      I don't think the bike would be difficult without traction control its not that powerful. The default setting is on so I don't bother touching it. Small slides are exciting sometimes I get you and yes I'll try and test the Trident once it arrives at our local dealers.

  • @gerardoesquivel9919
    @gerardoesquivel9919 3 года назад

    Where are you? The roada look great, stay safe!

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +1

      I’m in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Thanks there are some nice roads to ride on especially the paid toll roads (but it’s free for bikes 😎). You too stay safe!

    • @gerardoesquivel9919
      @gerardoesquivel9919 3 года назад +1

      @@RUBBERNMETAL thanks

  • @xuanmohamed8441
    @xuanmohamed8441 2 года назад

    Are Honda CB650R come with quickshift ?

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      Not by default. It can be purchased separately not expensive tho.

    • @xuanmohamed8441
      @xuanmohamed8441 2 года назад

      how much for the installation quick shifter bro.

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  2 года назад

      @@xuanmohamed8441 if you buy from Big Wing it’s around RM1.1k. you can get it slightly cheaper elsewhere or if you import it yourself from webike.

  • @jamie1453
    @jamie1453 9 месяцев назад

    This is excellent.
    Please be careful when you're narrating and driving simultaneously. Maybe it's just how i feel when I ride.🙏

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks buddy. Actually behind the scenes is a lot of retakes and repeats. I only took what I think is the best one.

  • @ericsaint-remy4679
    @ericsaint-remy4679 3 года назад

    👍

  • @nikeroach
    @nikeroach Год назад

    cool so slick surfaces good idea.. all else. off lol

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  Год назад

      Yea true that. I used to powerslide around on my ducati monster on the slippery surface after a rainy day. Even with used to doing that I’m not prepared to turn off the TC on the Honda haha 😂

  • @shukri1088
    @shukri1088 3 года назад +1

    This factories tyres very slippery..good use traction control..how about if use good tyres😊😊😊

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад

      I’m not too sure. I plan to replace the stock tires with Bridgestone s22 soon and I think I’ll be leaving the traction control on probably for the best. If you’re skilful enough to ride it on the edge of the grip limit and slide then you can turn it off but I’m not at that level yet.

    • @shukri1088
      @shukri1088 3 года назад

      Hehe same with me..😊😊😊..I want replace my tyres too but I don’t know what tyres I want use..coz I not study ..I newbie for this bike..

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  3 года назад +2

      @@shukri1088 you have a lot of choice. For sports riding and daily commute you can go for Pirelli Diablo Rosso III, Bridgestone Battlax S22, or Michelin Pilot Power 5. For long distance, touring and daily you can try Michelin Pilot Road 5. For track and only sports riding maybe the Pirelli Rosso Corsa II. Those are some tires that are best it all depends on your riding style and need.

    • @shukri1088
      @shukri1088 3 года назад

      RUBBER N METAL tq bossku tuk info nie..nty kita cari..

  • @silver_surfer88
    @silver_surfer88 Месяц назад

    Even a 125cc can benefit from traction control

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta Год назад

    It has a cable throttle, so the only real way to implement traction control is either cutting the fuel or cutting the ignition. Can't make that smooth ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
    I'll take that over electronic throttle though

    • @RUBBERNMETAL
      @RUBBERNMETAL  Год назад +1

      Yea I love the fact that there’s only 1 power mode and that means you know the real bike rather than adjust to some modes. Can’t complain too much about the traction control it has got me out of trouble a few times.

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta Год назад

      @@RUBBERNMETAL I like the idea of a tunable throttle responce in principle, but the trouble is once you add compute cycles to the process you just add latency. A cable throttle, sensitive though it may be, is immediate. It's like your right hand is directly connected to the seat. It's direct and precise, and it allows you to get very precise. You just don't get that with electronic setups ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯