Texas shooting: Why did it take nearly an hour for police to enter the school?
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2022
- Police in Uvalde, Texas, have been criticised for the time it took to stop 18-year-old gunman Salvador Ramos in the shooting that killed 19 children and two teachers. (Subscribe: bit.ly/C4_News_Subscribe)
He was reportedly in the school between 40 minutes and an hour before he was killed.
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They are so quick to give drivers a speeding ticket going 5-10 miles over the speed limit, but they are not so quick to save children from a psycho. Absolutely disgusting.
This was one of my first thoughts too - I got a $100+ for going 5 mph over speeding limit at a speed trap and the police officer pulled someone over immediately when he was done with me - predatory… predators
So afraid that they shoot unarmed teens and cower behind children.
omz3694 exactly 👏🏼👏🏼 they are just wasting time looking around for innocent people but not able to get the real criminals 😡😡
No money in saving lifes
Facts that's why i dont play wit police u treat me like mi life worthless ima do the cop the same..they protect they selfs
They cuffed a parent for freaking out that they weren’t doing anything. When they uncuffed her she hopped the fence and got her kids out, while the police did nothing for an hour.
Wow
It takes 5 minutes for a child to bleed out without donor blood or trauma care.
Really it's to dangerous they were lucky
I wouldn't of freaked out near the cops, I would of raced in if my kids were there.
I don't think we should put too much blame on the cops, sometimes the calls are hard to make and you don't know what will make the situation worse. You don't want to act on impulse like most parents would, but you want to follow the best procedures. If they're not following procedures then they should be brought up on that, if the procedures are bad then they need to be addressed.
The problem isn't the under funded police though. It's the size of the gun problem, that politicians would rather make money on, rather than fix the it like Australia and New Zealand did.
@@Commander_ZiN but they would burst into a drug dealers house without knowing whose inside though 🤔 planty of videos of that. And even during swating incidents
If the police are too scared to enter a classroom of children and save them they should find another job. And to stop the parents from entering is unexceptionable. I was a police officer and a Marine Corp Sergeant , and nothing but my death would have stopped me from going in there as my job was to protect the public at any cost!
Yes INDEED, NO doubt about that, rotten to the core so-called cops should be face charged, retirement removed, and face second degree murder charges indeed, among other things! Texas Police in there SHOULD resign! *All police have bullet proof armor, required and given, and these so-called Texas Police head saying why it took 90-minutes to go in, saying during news conference, "we needed more equipment, body amor, special equipment..." After I have listened the commonsense defying sickening loads of bul shets new conference with reporters, I almost fell off from the chair!" All the regular training of shootings paid for my police department, they have guns, refiles, even shot gun, best in close quarter combat, and what the miserable imbecile saying translated to them wanted, tank, APC for gun man only armed with pistole and rifle! Oh, my my, what kind of police, correction, despicable shameless cowards they are! I would immediately go into the school and engaging in combat since I have body amor, pretending I am a police officer, and side arm and rifle or shot gun is even batter, and engaging in battle. But that would be too risk for those cowards at the best plus dirty liers scared dog with tails in its legs! USA
what you have to do is hire ex military soldiers to join the police force, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ex military police who wouldn't mind getting a job as a police officer
Thank u Sir, for your bravery and service. God bless u
cops are cowards
Thank you.
The police at the scene should be fired for not immediately entering. Imagine if doctors or nurses waited an hour before the treated the victims. They would be fired, sued, and licenses taken away
WHERE WERE THE SWAT TEAMS?
Yes you right they acting immediately when is about drugs dealer they brake everything to get inside that is insane. But they can't protect our own children. coward is the right word for them😡🤬🤬
Doctors and nurses don't generally probably get shot multiple times in the face by a high powered machine gun by bleeding victims though. It's a bit like that Vulcan Raven ice warehouse boss in mgs1.
Police kill people all the time, you know how they do unarmed black people. But BLUE LIVES MATTER!
Some of the officers own children were in the school. Do you honestly believe they didn't care about the children inside? Without shields they would all have been dead in the hallway leaving the gunman free to go after the rest of the kids and the people outside. While they waited for backup to bring the shields so they could rush the door they got the rest of the children out of the school.
Police protected themselves before the children. It’s disgraceful.
Should be criminal charges brought against them. At least some of these kids are dead because of there actions or lack there of.
The two police who first confronted the shooter were both unarmed and shot... hard to fault them in that moment especially since we dont know where they were shot or how bad their wounds were... it's possible they were physically unable to do more against a man with a rifle at that point
The real issue for me is the backup officers that took a fucking hour to go inside. I understand they need to protect themselves as well, going against a man with a rifle and a bag of ammunition. Because if they did it wrong they would basically just be throwing their lives away too and bringing that dipshit shooter more weapons and ammo... the response to these types of things should have been much quicker and better prepared. I mean our kids have to do active shooter drills... why aren't there active shooter drills for police? Where they know exactly where their body armor and weapons are, and immediately head to the school. It shouldnt take an hour
*[Edit: to everyone replying to this saying parts of this aren't true, I'm already aware that the truth has recently changed. At the time I posted this, this was the most recent info given by the Texas Rangers]*
@@slip-n-slide4807 cops said that didn't happen.
@@firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100 which part?
Facts!
Absolute cowards, disgraceful. Willingly letting children die as they stood outside. I hope they carry that shame and that it eats away at them, for the rest of their lives.
Just Horrible " how the police " respond ed to the situation ! You have to be on your toes and ready to respond ! That all your adrealine just jumped up ! - Those guys were afraid ! and because of their lack of response Beautiful children died so horribly and their teachers . Now the husband of the teacher who died just,passed away ! Their 4 children have no parents . ! OH Yes the police gang will say they are crying ! Pure liars .. Healing prayers >
corrupt. almost like it was planned
They didn't just stand outside. They assaulted some of the parents trying to go in. There is that.
Another pathetic idiot comment! You or know one else has zero clue of what was going on.. however all these pathetic people commenting saying some very ignorant dumb comments ,sounds like something senile Biden would say!!
these cunts have no shame, its why they chose to be police officers, so they could harass weak people. not people with rifles pointing their way
Good job officers! You successfully set up a perimeter defending the suspect from any vigilante rescue attempt and bought the shooter nearly an hour to perform his executions unmolested👍
How come he had a gun to shoot the kids?
Thank you for being reasonable everyone posted off there are so many variables to consider
Great Work! (Not really)
If they're afraid of dying to protect kids, they need to quit their job!!!
quit job is not enough , they should go to jail
CYA is " their" protocol
That response time is absolutely disgusting.
All outgunned by military-grade assault rifles & ammo.
Right?
Abbott had YEARS to prevent this, yet did nothing.
Politics won't fix this problem....
@@eightgauge9094 It can reduce it, though.
if that was their child they would of acted quickly
The kid had an AR-15 and the officers were scared to go in. It is that simple. But, according to America's gun lobby, the average gun-totting citizen is supposed to be able to handle these incidents just fine.
yup the police are literally good guys with guns that did nothing. Its a bullshit excuse by politicians for not wanting to regulate guns properly because they're funded by the NRA
Yes. An armed teacher would have disarmed or killed the killer, according to the gun whackos. It's seeing things like this that make ,e glad to live in a county where this doesn't happen or where people want to normalise arming teachers. Insane!
Most of the "gun-totting citizens" in America have far more training with firearms than the police. Because they can pay for it and enjoy the training. Police officers are limited because of budgets and also some of them have a complex believing they are Rambo so no further training is needed. Some people freeze when bullets whiz by their face - others get mad and do something.
If I was one of those guys who first saw him I would have tried to stop him from getting to that school thats every Americans duty
The buffalo shooting shows just arming teachers won't work
*Armed police were too afraid to confront the gun man, but teachers are gonna do it?*
*FFS!* 😖
Every single detail of this case breaks my heart.. the dad remembering his little girl being excited about going to school, the place where she ended up passing away..
and that poor husband of the teacher who was killed ended up following her to heaven after a heart attack.. my God.. this is tragic all over again, as it always was with school shootings.. I hope that one day America will be able to mitigate this issue.. it's the main reason why I would never want to live there.. I hope the families of the victims will someday be able to heal..
They will never heal, do you think if you lost a child you will heal?
@@headshot9611 you're right.. so tragic
always is gloria but i totally agree.
So here is my answer to the Statement "if the teacher had a gun these people could have been saved" Every single police had a gun and they are trained to use it yet he got there via a chase and killed for an hour.
EDIT: Officials at the scene have changed their story again and are now saying there was no armed guard at the school. The only fact we know are a lot of armed policemen were outside the school for an hour holding back parents, while petrified little kids and teachers were essentially left abandoned with the shooter for that long hour of terror.
Exactly.
The armed teachers/armed guards proposal to stop these school shootings is just plain stupid.
A determined mass murderer is always going to have the element of surprise, and will target anyone he believes to have a weapon first to remove them as a threat.
Plus, the simple fact is that not many people are really psychologically capable of staying composed and focused in that kind of terrifying, high-stress situation.
To prevent this kind of attack, guards and teachers would need to be extensively combat trained and preferably have real experience of coming under fire, which is completely impractical to apply in a country that has over 130,000 schools.
Guess what? Teachers in Israel carry guns. You see any school shootings there? Let me remind you, the cops were either cowards or were told to stand down, like in Florida a few years ago. This is a tragedy and has become political. You have an archbishop telling people about guns? Really? The catholic church needs to focus on their own problems involving children. Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the nation and look at how many shootings happen there. So as much as the communists..err...gun control crowd want it, Chicago proves that gun control doesn't work.
@@Lili-xq9sn What silliness...Texas is the most armed state how come now one stopped it.
wtf was the purpose of having those policemen onsite of the shooting? genuinely what were their priorities? IM SO ANGRY HOW THEY LET ALL THOSE CHILDREN BE FRIGHTENED INSIDE!!! THEY FAILED THE ONLY MISSION THEY EVER HAVE WHICH IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE!!!!
To protect the shooter from parents
@@Barry-rc5nf 🤯
The cops attacked the parents that wanted to save their children! Many need to be fired. What a bunch of cowards!
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
These cops may have been good men, but they were cowards, and did nothing. Evil triumphed. All of those officers should be fired.
Every single one of those cowards who were pepper spraying and cuffing distraught parents while their kids were being slaughtered, needs to be sacked at the absolute bare minimum and if there's any justice be charged with negligent homicide.
These cops are cowards I'm absolutely disgusted I hope they never forget what they allowed to happen while parents pleaded with them to go in or let parents go to save their own children. Horrible absolutely horrible.
Yep that's Texas . I know from experience that's why I moved out of that state
They are following commands
The cop will not that coward if no guns in civilian hand. That's logic.
@@edosaragih2277 how do you plan to get all the guns out of civilian hands? That's a question.
@@Ohhiohh would you, while children were being shot? And who's commands?
This is all so devastating!! My gosh--I can't imagine the utter fear & terror those children and staff members had to face.
And hearing that the husband of one of the teachers that was shot & murdered, he also died due to a heart attack, is so heartbreaking!!
He literally died from a broken heart. 💔
My deepest & sincerest condolences to all the victims' families. 😞
For America i have prayed these last few days...Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, O most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.
Lead: Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
Response: That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
@@Zoomo2697 Your prayers clearly aren't working, there has been over 350 school shootings in America in the last 23 years, God loves school shootings, God loves seeing children being slaughtered
Hello 👋
Everyone of the cops that didn’t respond to save these students should immediately be locked up
Yes. If it was the other way around then it would be ' assaulting a police officer"!
The police screwed this up BIGTIME! Terrible training and there partly responsible for not this. The police BOTCHED this up. I'm so sick of it!
While parents stayed outside too.
@@mr.rochester1857 Oh because that's a fantastic idea, multiple parents with their own guns shooting it out not knowing who the active shooter is.
@@Twisterhere Yeah well in a school the shooter would be the guy with the gun.
@@mr.rochester1857 parents were held back
Listen you don't have to be a delta force operator to defend others...smh
It's the job of law enforcement officers just as it is for soldiers to put their lives on the line to protect the innocent.
Legally, it's not.
@Ben Avery I agree, it should. Doesn't happen in practice though, not in real life. Only movies.
Unfortunately according to the Supreme Court they are not required to put themselves in harms way to save anyone. They are also not responsible for any damages to property when making a "lawful" arrest. Do not ever believe that they are required to save you or anyone else
They were scared.. its negligence. so they could be disciplined. But its not a prison or financial notion..
I wonder if stopping those parents from protecting their children was a violation of their second ammendment rights.
Useless law enforcement, USELESS. Anyone else could have went in there with a gun and ended it before any more terror could have continued.
Petition to remove those police and elected official's for dereliction of duty!!! That Governor, the mayor, sheriff, and those police officer's should be removed their public offices and duties immediately!!!.
They pulled a taser on a parent trying to rush in the building. They put handcuffs on another…. They were listening to the shots and screams… one officer told the children to yell help if they needed it. One girl did… the shooter shot her.
These ppl saying they would save kids if teachers were armed are insane. Absolutely insane. I’d go so far as to say stupid as well. They would be torn apart by an AR-15 before they could even get their gun raised, aimed and their finger on the trigger.
Exactly
Lol! And how do you know that, what if there are multiple people who know how to deal with this sort of situation and they surround and eliminate him? Is he going to dodge the bullets.
American society is fucked. They will NEVER end this evil from happening. And why? Because to some, a powerful minority of extremists, a room full of kids getting their heads blown off is from time to time simply a fair sacrifice for keeping their beloved guns. It's a cowardly stqmce, it's disgusting, and it's pathetic.
that's your police tax dollars hard at work. They only know how to overpolice black communities and ride around in leftover military hardware
@@JwayT delusional scenario. Shooters like this attack with no warning. All empirical evidence and facts point to the fact that getting rid of guns would cause less deaths and mass shootings. There is no other developed country on earth that has this problem. Just the US. And that's down to their gun laws and unhealthy obsession with rights to weapons which are more important to Americans than their fellow citizens.
The COPS WAITED 40 MIN TO GO IN!!!???!!! WTF This is gross
They waited for more specialised forces to arrive
@@Ohhiohh And the protocol for active shooter isn't waiting for gear...
@@shakemiz they thought he was barricaded
@@Ohhiohh "They thought he was barricated". As he keeps slaughering children one after another. How could he have been able to kill a total of 19 children with a damn rifle and they somehow didn't know he was still actively shooting? Sound like excuses to me bro.
@@shakemiz damn maybe because the police were not inside the building ?
How was there a shootout with gunman if gunman was in the classroom ??? 19 cops in the hallway not one could see kids in classroom & radioed to the chief of police ?? I call that bull💩
Where did the shooter get the money for 2 rifles & ammo ???
The chief should be arrested for not letting the departments officer enter that school. DON'T let this chief off the hook. He help cause this massacre
Im sorry I couldn't finish watching, the horror of the parents standing outside of the building My God! I'm so sorry, I cry for you.
America is an insane nation.The police should not have to be placed such a situation in the first place.
You want the right to bear arms then put up and shut up.! Ask the
parents of the murdered children if they agree with the right to bear
arms.? If not a question of if it will happen again it's a question of
when!. You no longer live in the wild west . The second amendment was
written in 1789. We are now in 2022.!
Why wasn’t the school on lock down when the killer shot his grandma down the street. Or when he crashed the truck. When I was in high school we’d always go on lock down when there was something going on in our neighborhood.
I was thinking the same thing, like if all this chaos is going on so close to the school they should have been warned and put on lockdown right away!
Exactly. Also, how was he able to just...run into an unlocked door. The video I saw showed him run right in!
Good point, we used to that in a medical center too
@@bbjjbb61 pls what video
They did lock down
As an American mother I am disturbed by this TRAGEDY! Law enforcement officials have grossly let these precious children and their teachers down! Come on America 🇺🇸 you have got to do better!
Earlier today a would-be shooter also attacked a birthday party but he was shot dead by an armed mother who was also at the event. Thankfully only the shooter was killed and by the time the police arrived there was nothing to do other than take statements and bag up that failed monster. Everyone went back home safe that day, thanks to a licensed, concealed carrier who was clearly properly trained for an event like this.
@@jackspring7709 exactly. But you don’t hear it on the news. She took him down solo.
The delayed response runs contrary to commonly taught active shooter protocol, established after the Columbine school shooting of 1999, to stop the shooter as quickly as possible and even bypass helping the injured.
Police failed to respond in a timely manner. The police were more worried about keeping fathers from running in to the school to try and save their kids. Than to react to the situation. The police were the only ones that could have tried to save some of these victims. Think about the fact that one of the victims was able to call 911 and shortly after died. If police would have reacted immediately that little girl might have survived.
What breaks my heart is those kids had hope the cops were coming to save them before they died
Told to stand down, they need these school shootings to be as big as possible so thry can justify disarming the american public.
Every time the cops show up they make the situation worse that’s just how it seems to go… seen many videos of people calling the police for help and end up being arrested themselves. It’s always about putting on a show with them to show how in control they are of every situation…
Police in America are just Tax collectors.
Lol, you guys do know that cops don't have to actually protect you, right? They LITERALLY DO NOT HAVE TO PROTECT YOU OR ANYONE for that matter.
The woman at 5:00 is why America is doomed. She says she does not want to get in to politics but agrees with their Governor!
Yeah these people are completely delusional. If wanting to stop murder on a large scale is somehow a sensitive political subject, than it's safe to say that you have a problem. The US has 8 times the gun murder rate of the EU. So it's not just some random incident. It seems like people are lacking some moral values, if they agree that this is a price worth paying for their freedumb.
It is complete insanity. She would be shot before she could grab that gun in her desk.
She has the blood of those kids on her hands
Wrong!! America is doomed because of a small sick minority who control the MSM, The purse string of the Nation. Who use these things for political gain. Nothing else!
Where are they when 70+ men are gunned down in Chicago and NY..... CRICKETS!!! Dealing with some sick people.
@@coachking5208 Whataboutism is stupid. All of those problems have one common cause. A country that is flooded with firearms. That's why the US has a 8 times higher gun murder rate compared to the EU. Whoever votes for either the Republican or Democratic party has their blood on their hands. Seeing as neither of them want to completely ban guns.
I cant believe people cant grasp the fact that an 18 year old person with no previous background checks, psychological evaluation or social media presence can go buy 2 AR-15 rifles with high capacity magazine and as much ammo as he can afford in our country. This makes absolutely no sense to me.
When Law Enforcement is too cowardly to "Charge To The Sound Of The Guns", as I was taught in the Infantry thirty - five years ago , this country is finished.
Any soldier who behaved this way would be Court - Martialed
See 10 U.S. Code § 899 - Art. 99. Misbehavior before the enemy
Despicable. If the cops aren't going in to protect these kids, for God's sake, don't stop people that want to go stop it. It was one 18 yr old. More pressure could have resulted in his suicide!
Yes INDEED, NO doubt about that, rotten to the core so-called cops should be face charged, retirement removed, and face second degree murder charges indeed, among other things! Texas Police in there SHOULD resign! *All police have bullet proof armor, required and given, and these so-called Texas Police head saying why it took 90-minutes to go in, saying during news conference, "we needed more equipment, body amor, special equipment..." After I have listened the commonsense defying sickening loads of bul shets new conference with reporters, I almost fell off from the chair!" All the regular training of shootings paid for my police department, they have guns, refiles, even shot gun, best in close quarter combat, and what the miserable imbecile saying translated to them wanted, tank, APC for gun man only armed with pistole and rifle! Oh, my my, what kind of police, correction, despicable shameless cowards they are! I would immediately go into the school and engaging in combat since I have body amor, pretending I am a police officer, and side arm and rifle or shot gun is even batter, and engaging in battle. But that would be too risk for those cowards at the best plus dirty liers scared dog with tails in its legs! USA
WHERE WERE THE SWAT TEAMS?
If it's one of their own, they will scorch the earth to save them, but not a school of children.
@@sharonsimpson9288 they were debating whether their lives were in danger and if it was safe to enter.
it's TOO BIZZY HUNTING INNOCENT PPL.
Evidentially, it's more important that police officers go home safely to their families instead of saving the children. The parents could've done a better job saving kids compared to the coward cops afraid to go inside and do their job. Sad excuse for a profession that claims to "protect and serve."💔
Maybe they wanted SWAT to take him alive. The only way to find out who is sending these people to carry out mass shootings is to capture one of them alive and torture them until they tell us. Get one of them into guantanimo.
Yes they trained police to always think going home save
Yes INDEED, NO doubt about that, rotten to the core so-called cops should be face charged, retirement removed, and face second degree murder charges indeed, among other things! Texas Police in there SHOULD resign! *All police have bullet proof armor, required and given, and these so-called Texas Police head saying why it took 90-minutes to go in, saying during news conference, "we needed more equipment, body amor, special equipment..." After I have listened the commonsense defying sickening loads of bul shets new conference with reporters, I almost fell off from the chair!" All the regular training of shootings paid for my police department, they have guns, refiles, even shot gun, best in close quarter combat, and what the miserable imbecile saying translated to them wanted, tank, APC for gun man only armed with pistole and rifle! Oh, my my, what kind of police, correction, despicable shameless cowards they are! I would immediately go into the school and engaging in combat since I have body amor, pretending I am a police officer, and side arm and rifle or shot gun is even batter, and engaging in battle. But that would be too risk for those cowards at the best plus dirty liers scared dog with tails in its legs! USA
OUR MELINATED COMMUNITIEZ HAV BEEN HUNTED BY THEZE SEEMZ THAT'Z it's ONLY PAID WERK, NOW THE WHOLE WERLD KNOWZ WHO u REELY protect & serve ur self's.
The blood of these children is on the hands of the LEOs who failed to act. Since Columbine all cops train to the same active shooter standards. Diamond formation or triangle if only 3 officers, find the shooter and neutralize the threat. We never wait for SWAT or ERT. My heart aches for the children who died needlessly.
Yes .they forget about A Higher Power in Heaven who is THE ULTIMATE JUDGE. not the world's courts . (They shield each other right or wrong.)
@@gradyhernandez4699 or maybe they dont believe in fairytales.
So they know mental health is an issue and you’re going to give them a gun? How does that make sense
Everyone of those lawenforcemen should consider another career where they dont risk theirs lives embarrassing embarrassing
Very shameful and will have to live with that decision of not going in, for the rest of their lives!
1. If "mental health problems" are an issue, all the more reason to have extremely strict gun-laws.
2. It should be equally as difficult for a 60-year-old to acquire a gun as a 16-year-old.
3. NO-one who is prone to violence or to hateful acts should be allowed to possess a gun.
Plenty of 60 and older people are far more psychologicaly safe with guns .
Ban rifles, let them buy handguns for self protection, if needed.
Do the mentally ill people you know seem like they're spending their time reading about laws and how to follow and obey them as best as possible? It's illogical. We need better defense, and it's very hard to train people at any pay rate to be willing to die for the job. Most cops do go above and beyond, this seems like a case where the first few would not enter into fire. It is of course tragic, but becoming weaker has never been a good response to evil. Train yourself in self defense and vote for people who will help you.
Gun laws don't cure mental illness.
@@drury2d8 vast majority of gun violence is with hand guns.
How does that help?
One of the moms literally broke through the police barrier and hopped a fence to get her kids. The father was arrested, they double teamed those police!
Whats crazy is they will bust your door down about some drugs, or a warrant, but wont burst into a classroom to save innocent kids??????🤯Blows my mind...
I fear we are going to find out that he actually killed himself. I know…I know…the current line is that Rambo went in and save the day. How me times does it eventually come out that that there is no hero and the ending came at the gunman’s own hand? It happens quite often. Notice the statement today that a “majority” of the shots were fired early. I suspect either the gunman was about to run out of bullets or had done all the damage he could. I know it’s not romantic, but nothing about this scenario is. The spokesperson they sent out today was just not believable. Time will tell.
I think he killed himself too ….
Most likely. They would kill an unarmed black person without blinking.
This could actually be the case no reason to wait an hour before getting killed.
People called the police thinking they will come help, but leave to police to make a situation worse. Never call the pilice people
They need to catch one of these fuckers alive and find out who is sending them and why. Thats the only way they will ever get to the bottom of these school shootings.
“Good guy with a gun” just doesn’t hold up. The school had three armed security guards, what did they do? Where were they? Why didn’t they intervene? Why did the cops not go in? Why did it take so long for an effective police response?
Obviously dozens with guns, just not “good guys”
Being good in itself doesn't protect you from anything, obviously. Being trained much better than these first officers to arrive, and being selfless? That would have ended it immediately. If the good guy having a gun doesn't work, just imagine a world where the good guy is always unarmed and the bad guys are always creating more shop weapons.
Wish to know
So much conflicting information, in another video a cop said there were no armed security guards in school, there was one but he was unarmed.
"Good guy with a gun" does in fact hold up according to the CDC which everyone knows doesn't exactly lobby for the NRA and such... This is the CDC having to admit the truth.
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"Firearms are used for defensive purposes between 500,000 and 3 million times every single year in the United States.
In comparison, firearms were used to commit violent crime 300,000 times as of 2008.
So objectively and rationally, gun prohibitions are a good idea, right?
If your reflexive reaction to reading that data is that it must rely upon exaggerated estimates by pro-Second Amendment activists, guess again. The source of that data is none other than a study commissioned by the Center for Disease Control (CDC) following an instruction from President Barack Obama in January 2013 "to research the causes and prevention of gun violence."
In other words, even accepting the minimum estimate of defensive gun uses in the U.S. each year from a source hardly inclined toward Second Amendment advocacy, that number still dwarfs the number of instances in which guns are used to commit violent crime. "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals," the report summarized."
Firefighters would have done an excellent job on protecting these kids and getting these kids to safety. Kids are taught to call the police to get help and they failed these kids and their families tremendously
Bunch of cowards. They should face criminal charges. This needs to be investigated extensively.
So much for training
Run every police officer off that stood outside and didn’t react.
America police officers are notoriously badly trained compared to other countries. And most of it is just firearm trainin
They were in fear of their lives.
Those suggesting that teachers should be armed are essentially expecting teachers to do within minutes, seconds even, what took nearly an hour for police to do. Where is the logic in that?
You can not reason with republicans
The teachers have no choice but to shoot or die, but if surprised, it's futile, agreed. So ridiculous.
Not to mention a lot of teachers are unstable
Especially if gunmen know the one person in the classroom that is armed... who do they take out first? 🤣
I don’t know where I stand on the topic yet. But the logic would be that the teachers, instead of hiding behind a desk holding their student’s hands and saying prayers, would make an attempt to stop the threat by fighting back. Can you expect a teacher to wander around the school looking for the shooter? Not always. But if someone broke into your classroom you are locked inside of, what would you choose? Granted, there are probably implications that would stem from teachers owning weapons, but as it would with many “solutions” the majority of people are talking about.
If I were one of these parents, I would not want any officer within 100 miles of my Childs funeral.
Where were the three armed security guards when the shooter entered the school, then the classroom as he began shooting and killing all eleven kids and two teachers in that classroom??? What angers me the most is the cops that did enter the school first got within 50 feet of the classroom the shooter was in, but pulled back to and take cover and hide as one wounded little girl actually saw them, and started screaming for help but backed away hearing her screaming for help, then the shooter went next door and ended her life as she kept screaming for help!!! This little girls father was standing outside of the school begging police to go in and kill the shooter!! But was held at gunpoint as him and several other parents tried entering the school, because law enforcement was standing around for over an hour at that point!!!! Like seriously WTF!!!! This makes my blood boil just writing this comment! I couldn’t imagine if anyone was that little girls father, or and father of the kids that were killed….
How heartbreaking I can’t imagine what there parents & family are going through, Rip to all the victims, so so sad
dam shame so much anger in this world
We need to send California officers to train Texas cops
agree
what about the children? when will someone stand up to the gun lobbyists and say go away, stand up to the politicians and say what's all that gun lobby money doing in your pockets? What are the priorities here adult fear or keeping children safe by not having so many people accessing guns. It is utterly crazy what is happening in America!
@@karate4348 You're assuming that gun ownership is the cause. I'm afraid the data doesn't really back that assertion. I think it's something cultural that has happened in America in the last 30 years.
They let those babies down 💔😠😭😭😭.
Every parent who got tased or pepper sprayed needs to sue the PD. Imagine tasing a grieving parent instead of the shooter. Wow.
Call Ben crumps office
Or Anne Gabnejo atty at Law Houston texas
The teacher that propped back door open and Principal who allows it should be fired.
The cops were there to control the scene but not to stop it.
Shamefull
Why? Because most cops are cowards. My heart breaks for the parents.
Then they call for ' back up" while there's only one person with a weapon?
The shooter got out of the school after killing 21 people! All while the police stood outside arresting parents desperately trying to save their children? What a disgusting show of law enforcement if this is true.
Dont become a police officer if you’re not gonna give down your life to protect and serve the safety of your COMMUNITY!!!!!
Not for brown kids they won
1 HOUR TO TAKE THE SHOOTER DOWN!!!! that’s unbelievable that is un heard of Law enforcement did an extremely poor job….
I thought police were supposed to put their lives on the line instead of the teacher?
It’s sad that irrelevant gun owners rights come before young childrens rights to be alive, and go to school safely, without getting shot by guns and assault rifles.
A lot of Texas politicians have these children's blood on their hands. That’s 3 big mass shootings in Texas, within 5 years. Church, Walmart and now kids at elementary school. Terrible and making the state very unsafe.
Texas can be a great friendly state, especially in the modern suburbanized cities, however these old towns are still stuck in the Battle of the Alamo era.
Dallas cop shootings too in 2016 I think and 2018.
Wise up Texans and Americans, guns are not safe, especially in the wrong hands of crazy people, which there are a lot of in the United States!
I just don't understand they had bullet proof vest more then one officer go in as a group tackle the guy shoot him but waiting a hour the guy just when nuts . This is a tragedy . Some thing has to be done to prevent this
THIS IS NOT A HOSTAGE SITUATION WHERE YOU NEED TO PLAN AND NEGOTIATE…. THERE IS AN ACTIVE SHOOTER!!!!!!!!!!!! POLICE WITH OR WITHOUT THE BODY ARMOUR NEEDS TO ENGAGED AND NEUTRALIZE THE SHOOTER IMMEDIATELY !!!!! ALL POLICE OFFICERS WENT FOR TRAINING FOR THIS SITUATION!!!!!!!!!
Just gutless wonders limp dicks
Why don't you stfu, this isn't a movie.
Sure, let's the teachers do the job of the cops!!!
Please, stop with the nonsense.
@Waka Waka Clearly the cops were worthless, so simple common sense would dictate that the teachers needed to be armed. Please, stop with the nonsense!
Someone has to do the job of the police if they won't do it.
@@evorider3689 so according to your "common sense" there are no reasons why in the vast majority if not all states of the world the guns are given to the police and not to the teachers.
@@Gezira Clearly, in this scenario, and in countless other school shootings, only the police having guns did not produce an acceptable result, now did it? Common sense dictates that when you have an armed madman locked in a room with unarmed people he wants to kill, it is like shooting fish in a barrel. However, if even just one of those people is armed, then those otherwise entirely helpless people have at least somewhat of a chance of surviving the incident!
@@evorider3689 "only the police having guns did not produce an acceptable result, now did it?"
It did not.
"However, if even just one of those people is armed, then those otherwise entirely helpless people have at least somewhat of a chance of surviving the incident!"
I don't know about that, somewhat maybe.
Shooting someone requires a certain attitude, a coldness that I don't see so much compatible with that of the teacher.
I could be wrong but wouldn't it be better to tighter rules for the police, better training or something along that lines?
Or even better some form of gun control?
Maybe similar to a driving licence, what's wrong with that?
They need to find a way to screen people who have mental health issues and not give those type of people access to any guns. Mental health is serious and people are not taking it serious or getting the proper help they need. Smfh R.I.P. to those innocent kids
Are these the "good cops" I've been hearing so much about?
To that little girl who tried to help her dead class mate I pray for her healing and counsel my God to be one of the only survivors Lord have mercy
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Lead: Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
Response: That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Wtf? Is this channel actually saying "if the teachers were armed," while dozens of cops in full body armour cowered outside and didnt do their job ??
Well when teachers are getting their door blasted in by bullets, its probably a good idea for a teacher to great them with a mag full of bullets. Or u rather they pray?
Full body armor? Are you blind?
How many officers does it take to get one shooter out of a school?
They stopped parents of helping their children
Border patrol probably drove from the border before even Any officer stepped in I bet 💔 Every day I lose such respect for those cowards. They think they’re such authority when shooting or harassing others though right? Ugh I’m tired
oh they were the first ones there and didn't do sht..
@@ccchk1 that's inaccurate! The Uvalde PD is LESS than .05 mile from the school. Uvalde was first, followed by the county sheriff, and Texas DPS all with 7 minutes. U.S.Border Patrol was then requested. They were 28 miles away.......and had to get a team assembled. This first falls on Uvalde FIRST, city AND county! Now DPS, has this FUBAR.
@@ansonreaves5786 facts, facts 💯🙏🏼
Yes INDEED, NO doubt about that, rotten to the core so-called cops should be face charged, retirement removed, and face second degree murder charges indeed, among other things! Texas Police in there SHOULD resign! *All police have bullet proof armor, required and given, and these so-called Texas Police head saying why it took 90-minutes to go in, saying during news conference, "we needed more equipment, body amor, special equipment..." After I have listened the commonsense defying sickening loads of bul shets new conference with reporters, I almost fell off from the chair!" All the regular training of shootings paid for my police department, they have guns, refiles, even shot gun, best in close quarter combat, and what the miserable imbecile saying translated to them wanted, tank, APC for gun man only armed with pistole and rifle! Oh, my my, what kind of police, correction, despicable shameless cowards they are! I would immediately go into the school and engaging in combat since I have body amor, pretending I am a police officer, and side arm and rifle or shot gun is even batter, and engaging in battle. But that would be too risk for those cowards at the best plus dirty liers scared dog with tails in its legs! USA
@@klo206 I feel the same way 😡😡
Cops just think about gossip or going to Race Track or QT to go get free snacks
I been taking pictures were they are just wasting time, doing shi# but they are so ready to go stop someone speeding 😒
Many are demanding a formal FBI investigation into the shootings and the conduct of the Uvalde police department...They have lost all credibility and cannot be trusted.
Wonder if someone in power bought the guns for the kid knowing he was going off the rails and planted seeds in his head. Was the girl from Germany he was chatting with really German or was she Russian-that’s a stretch…maybe something more local and low key for whoever bought the guns to get retribution on someone who crossed him by killing his child 🤷♀️ I’ve watched too many movies and written too many short stories
That's the school's fault for not having arm security at the doors and not having atleast 1 or 2 school police officers at schools. Many schools only have like 1 school officer and that same officer has to cover so many schools. Don't forget the BONE HEAD TEACHER THAT LEFT THE DOOR OPEN
how the lady in the blue was praying the rosary was just so heartbreaking, i feel so bad for all the victim’s families. R.I.P to the 19 innocent kids and the 2 teachers (im a catholic btw)
the answer to question of why it took an hour is pretty straightforward the colour of the people in the neighborhood/community. they even shot they dude when the folks up in Minnesota mass shooting allowed the white shooter just to surrender so he can get away with it in court.
And not even a scratch on the racist Buffalo shooter's neck.
Not very smart are you?
Absolutely correct
That might be the smallest simplest and most stupid world view I've heard in a while. It's all about race now, every single thing? You can't imagine the first police were just afraid of death and waiting on SWAT back up? And the shooter was purely white now in your mind or how do you even think this way? How long did it take to catch the DC sniper? Was that a racial crime?
@@AMpufnstuf Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's. As the saying goes "an opinion is like an asshole, everybody has one." So feel free state your opinion, after all this is a "free" country.
My brother is a cop in Texas we are about a little less than 4hrs from Uvalde and he said the cops were cowards and even though have no fault in the shooting they are at fault for the late response which ended in a bigger # of deaths, he said a cop a sheriff a state trooper border patrol are all trained to go in if there are gun shots they are paid to put their life at risk even if that's means they have to loose it
That training is useless if their work ethic is in the gutter.
I'm 4 hours away. Our cops should train them how to care for kids. I'm in 254 area
If you are not willing to give your life for your community or if you don't have the guts/courage, please don't ever apply for a police officer. Your decisions could affect a lot of people and some may even die because of you.
Such a beautiful community. IAM praying for everyone of them.god bless
It always baffles me when anyone quotes the 2nd amendment, they always leave out the well regulated militia part
Thank You finally someone who knows history!
Please look up District of Columbia v. Heller. The Supreme Court case deals with this specific issue.
@@Alex-wr6pd so this is what stripped away gun regulations, It's sickening that the supreme court would allow this.
Americans have been deliberately brainwashed by lobbyists like ALEC ( American Legislative Exchange Council) over the course of many years.
The intention was to gradually change the public’s perception of the 2nd amendment interpretation from a ‘collective’ to an ‘individual’ right to bear arms by a well regulated militia.
The powerful and influential ALEC produced a resolution on the 2nd Amendment which ‘ guarantees each law-abiding American citizen the right to keep and bear arms of his choice’.
Thank u...u absolutely correct 💯
Imagine wanting to arm teachers to combat this threat to schools. It is genuinely mind blowing that some people think that it is the solution to the issue
Imagine wanting teachers to take out a school shooter while zillions of police stand around cuffing parents for trying to run in and handle it, because they won't. These people suggesting this, always spouting some "blue lives matter" bs, clearly have no faith in our own police if they want to arm TEACHERS, rather than train police.
America!!!! 🤣 Data analysis ain't there strong point apparently
definately is part of the solution. You know how many hunters and vets become teachers? Many. I've ben in life threatening situations more than once and I can assure you I would have terminated the terrorist post haste or died trying while buying the others time. Lots of people like me out there, just not the cops...
@@perseusrex614 this whole situation proves your reasoning wrong...the cops with guns stopped the parents with guns from stopping the teenager with the AR15
@@primrosed2338 actually it proves me right. There were average people with guns ready willing and able to take down the terrorist, just not the coward cops. My point exactly, so take it up with the cops, not with the brave civis with guns. An armed hunter/vet teacher or three with the same mindset would have stopped the terrorist also, and fast. Just like at the Florida school, cowards with badges and inflated pensions enabled a terrorist to extend his killing spree.
My heart goes out to this I'm so sorry. The police are a waste of time. They are bullies and cowards,should of gone straight into this.
@m K they could of tasered him, they taser others no problem,n the guy was spotted bout hour before all this with weapon
@m K such a tragedy my heart goes out to these people and family rip xx
With the benefit of hindsight, I sincerely hope that lessons will be learnt this time and procedures will be reviewed thoroughly and vigorously to ensure that this doesn't occur again on US soil. Prayers and a minutes silence.
Naw - the cops did the same thing at Columbine - the most infamous massacre in school shooter history: this was all down to incompetence, cowardice and, judging by how they treated the parents during the event, and blamed the teachers after the event, downright nastiness.
Even if procedures are reviewed that doesn’t mean the next time they will be followed, unfortunately. As long as the cops review their own wrongdoing nothing will change.
The governor of Texas isn't going to turn his back on that old money, they have dinner together, he'll their grandkids probably go to the same schools. I can assure you none of these uvalde children go to the same schools as his. Lobbiest are the issue and those who are influenced by their money grip.
WTF the teacher's husband died of a heart attack
Yes, or of a broken heart 💔
@@travelwell6049 😂
@@a.h.543 it wasn’t supposed to be funny 😞
@@travelwell6049 nevermind wrong video
So much for the "good guy with a gun" theory. There were supposedly dozens of them and none wanted to do their job.
They should of just give their weapons to the parents . Those bastards . Even if the kids were shot, responding quickly could have saved some of the 19 kids
Does that really surprise you
Those pigs are Not worthy of the pay
A healthcare worker who left their patients to die would be charged with negligence and abandonment which carries jail time. But these cops can violate their oath and things go on as normal?
Sending love from the UK, stay strong.
Gypsy king!!!!
🙏
You mean stay alive.
Up here in Canada we were told that he barricaded himself in the room and police couldn't get in which begs the question what kind of equipment do your police in Texas have anyway???
That was likely a convenient lie told in an attempt to cover up the fact that the cops failed to do their job!
Absolutely Tragic, My hearts broken for the families of the innocent lives lost. Absolutely crazy 💔
For America i have prayed these last few days...Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, O most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.
Lead: Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
Response: That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
Every officer on the scene needs to be fired and charged with reckless endangerment
Please stop this. The issue here isn't the police its the fact it takes me longer, costs more, and requires more paperwork to adopt a kitten from the pound than it does for me to get a gun.
And a car driving licence!
Yeah, but kittens don’t massacre schoolchildren in their classroom. You need lions and tigers for that.
@@titteryenot4524 Yeah that was kind of my point that it is harder to get a kitten than a gun and there is something wrong with that.
@@mattsmith1859 Misread you. My mistake. Apologies.👍
US cops are useless though
They love their guns more than they love their children
Its a blood sacrifice
That's the brutal truth. The gun nuts fetishize guns to the point that they see these kind of events as tragic, but ultimately a price they are willing to pay for incredibly easy access to firearms.
Just so long as it's not their _own_ kids that die, of course.
If you make laws to disarm or ban certain guns....criminels dont care about laws.🤔 It takes time for a cop to arrive at a crime scene. Alot can happen in 5 minutes🤔. I will protect my family and my property as it is my Right. what stops a bad guy with a gun? Why do people call the cops? a good person with a gun. 🤔
@@williemills2657 you will protect no one, you are completely delusional, you would be the first one killed if something like that happens. You are keeping something in your house that would more likely be used against you or cause accident with your children. Your mindset is flawed and you are the cause of the problem. Criminals will not go against you unless you are involved with crime my dude.
@@chlorinelori1064 Im a Army veteran you crackhead. I servered 8 years, all my kids are grown and lived around guns, you teach your kids things Do you have knives, saws ect in your house do you just set them on the table and say hey let see what happens, if someone breaks into your house to do you harm you gonna stand there and be a victim? Not me.
At one point there were a dozen or more cops (out of hundreds) who had body armor, helmets, ballistic shields and extensive firearms training. There was only one 18 year-old shooter who had already demonstrated his lack of firearm skill. There were six points of available access to this shooter; the classroom door, the adjoining classroom door and four windows. Still the cops did nothing for over an hour. After 77 minutes a team of cops finally took the shooter out, Why couldn't it be done sooner?
I'm sorry for your lost God be with you all
My heart breaks 💔 I'm watching this from South Africa 🇿🇦 and I'm crying. This is senseless and tragic. My prayers to everyone 🙏 ❤
I agree no 18 year old or younger should be able to purchase a assault rifle
Crazy. And yes, for what? Ornaments? It's not that there is wolves and grizzlies and cougars everywhere in Texas, these days!
It's usually the parents who buy the guns and the children who use them. See the Michigan school shooting last November.
There needs to be stricter screenings and gun control against those who pose a risk
An 18 year old can join the military, be trained how to use firearms safely. During war time the can be drafted.
And they're not able to. Rifles are restricted to 10-15 round mags and semi-auto only.
This is incorrect, teachers at that school are required to lock the class room doors once class starts. The classroom door the shooter entered was propped open by the teacher....huge mistake.
Unforgivable.
Absolutely unforgivable!!