I love that Sorcerer's Synchronized Casting passive doesn't just make you cast faster together, but if you start casting the same spell as another sorcerer, you IMMEDIATELY jump to the same point of progression in the cast as them. So if they're less than a second from finishing that big old charge of High Bolide and you start casting, congrats, you just got to let rip a crapload of meteors for less than a second cast time. And that feels AMAZING.
This is an underrated comment. I know so many veterans of the game that JUST recently learned about this. Synch casting in all mage parties can be very fun and rewarding. The other thing people seem to always miss or gloss over is that you can make classes stronger by leveling up classes that are base to that class. I.e. leveling up mage strengthens magic archer and mystic knight and lets you buy some skills from the respective pools.
For Mystic Knight, I would recommend *not* enchanting your weapon and instead carrying weapons with enchantments already on them. Yes, it's tedious going into the menu to swap weapons, but so is all the buffs you mentioned. Choice is yours. Also, you don't have to bother with Abyssal Anguish if you don't need to melee an enemy and can rely on elemental ripostes, which are very powerful. That just leaves Ruinous Sigil and Great Cannon, which are also situational. Just use the best tool for the job at the time.
Well said. Moreover, you have a limited number of skill slots. So, it is better to bring enchanted weapons than assign a couple of skill slots for enchantments.
Ture the only time I bring enchanting is for the dark bishop boss fight in BBI I don't remember if there is a Dark enchanted weapon I can get to deal with him easily or I'll just art of obliteration him when I become a warrior again it's my main
Agreed. My standard opening is to enchant my shield, drop a cannon or two and walk up to the biggest guy in the room and dare him to hit me. My Sorcerer Fulminates the cannons for a magical MG-42 and my Fighter and Strider go do fighter and strider things.
Yeah I'd recommend just using the cursed light, definitely best sword for mystic knight, instead of using the devil's bane and hen enchanting it constantly
As the wiseman Caxton always says "They're masterworks all. You can't go wrong!". All classes in this game are more than worthwhile your time, so you only benefit of trying all of them out at some point.
one of the best parts of this game is being able to take augments from other classes and putting in on whatever you are running. taking the augment that skyrockets magic damage from sorcerer and slapping it on your magic archer is a game changer
Strider is my personal favourite vocation, and I think it’s a testament to how great Strider is when the Vocation considered The Best™️ by so many is basically just “Strider, but with Magic.” I’ve been playing this game since Vanilla Dogma and I’m still impressed with how incredible it’s combat is and how I’m still learning new things about it. I’m absolutely hyped for DD2!
Strider is pretty OP itself. If I had to pick one class to solo the game, would be Strider over assassin. Damage with the shortbow is good enough(and Blast Arrows exist), and fracture dart is great. It has climbing damage bonus vs a few late-game bosses and superior climbing speed(combine with Gloves of Might for stupid speed), plus Thousand Kisses and Brain Splitter. You have enchanted daggers for dealing with physical immune foes, and the shortbow can deal with metal golems and their floating, magic-immune medals. Strider with the strength augments + eminence and opportunism is nuts. 2 free augment slots left for whatever else you could need. Adhesion and Sinew or Leg Strength round it out.
I got back into Outward because of your videos and loved it so much more the 2nd time around, then I saw the sorcerer clips you were making and had to try this game. Pretty sure we have the same taste in games and couldn't be more appreciative of your efforts Sheen! Thank you!
Glad you got back into Outward! game is so much more fun when you are more aware of what's going on. As for this game... man its so awesome climbing monsters and using cool skills. Hope you continue to enjoy the channel!
Dope I just beat outward and hopped back on Elden ring for a bit got bored again and saw all the hype for DD2 so I bought DD1 to see how’s it’s like this game is so sick the learning curve is wild I’m level 13 first day playing so hyped for DD2 now just pre ordered it cheers
Ah yes, my Mighty Warrior Class getting shafted a skill page just because of Two-handing a weapon. It was still my most enjoyed and most used class despite its short-comings.
Yea this is the reason i don't play warrior as i play MK and 9 skills is ok for me as i like to constantly change my fighting style (at least on those weaker enemies where i can style on them.). 3 is just criminal (also no double jump/levitate for red classes). Imagine a sorc having only 3 skills lol.
For 90% of the game you don't even need skills as a warrior. Jumping in the air and slamming your sword down on things solves most situations with comical ease. But as noted, the main drawback is flying enemies.
@SotiCoto yeah but this is the Warrior class brandishing a comically large sword meant to devastate large groups of enemies in wide-arcing swings and toppling gigantic monsters, I didn't wanna play a Dragoon and just jump and slam into the ground all the time and neglect most of my kit since that gets boring real quick.
@@tobiasrex8052honestly I totally get how you feel but the truth is you don't need to spam jumping light attack to play warrior well. Jumping heavy attack looks much better and is still super effective. Also, if you get the augment ferocity which increases the power of your base weapon combos, they become devastating on warrior. Couple that with Exodus Slash that let's you avoid damage and the class becomes really fun to me.
@GeeGe. sad part is a lot of enemies (while playing on Hard difficulty) were given hyper armor/poise and just swing through your combos despite them being "devastating" and interrupt you if the hit was big enough. You lost so much for Warrior when you played on Hard. Hopefully Capcom has balanced the classes around a bit and maybe the heavy attacks worth using now since they were garbage in the 1st game as well.
I finally found a recent vid on Dragons Dogma. I'm about a month into this game and loving it. But there is alot out dated content out there.I'm happy to see I'm not the only one still playing.
I think my personal favorite Vocation will always be Mystic Knight. I always like Paladin type builds, and I love to balance magic with sword and shield builds. I understand and respect why you chose Magick Archer for first. It covers all the strengths of each type of damage and range style, and it really seems absolutely broken! Awesome video!
MK is my favorite class and honestly outside of abyssal anguish I don't use the other weapon buff skills. Like you said, it adds a lot of prep time to battles, and the duration on the MK weapon buff is the shortest of all the classes while also taking the longest to charge. They honestly feel like a bit of a trap, as where MK truly shines is in royal guarding everything to death. The shield buff spells cast way faster, and lasts longer too. If you want a weapon buff, get a sorcerer or mage to cast it instead, although admittedly it will leave your fate to the whims of the pawn AI. What I'll run on my shield is either two different elemental shield buff spells for weakness coverage + abyssal anguish, or one elemental shield buff + abyssal anguish + demonswrath if what I'm fighting resists my main shield buff. Also as effective as long range magick cannon spam is, I prefer to actually cast it in melee. That way my attacks hit both the monster and my cannon, enemy attacks can also trigger the cannon, and if your parries hit your cannon it'll also cause it to fire even more bolts. Ruinous sigil will also repeatedly trigger the cannon if you place it in the sigil's radius and an enemy walks into it! And you can cancel out of cast charging with a block, which makes casting in melee a lot more viable and fluid. So while long range magick cannon playstyle is safe, if you find MK boring I highly recommend using it in the thick of combat instead.
The only reason I don't abuse riposte skills is because I play my MK as if Dragon's Dogma was Quest for Glory 6 and I imported a Paladin with magic points. ...also because they're honestly strong enough to triviallise fights at times
I've toyed with riposte skills, but they're just not that great. That time spent trying to parry attacks could be spent putting down ruinous sigils and great cannons, which will stop the enemy even getting close enough to be parried in the first place.
Mage is probably my favorite classes. The visceral thrill of Sorcerer's spells is always tempting but I love the versatility of the Mage. Heck, I love most of the classes in this game.
Grapnel is about the only interesting thing the Mage has. I've seen loads of Mage pawns online, but a Sorcerer with Healing Spring Flasks can even cover the healing role better than a Mage can. And Mages can't sync-cast.
Ranger is great at taking advantage of the damage bonuses you get for disabled enemies... 1 arrow to put an elden ogre to sleep, 1 arrow to remove half its life, repeat :D
All classes in my opinion are number 1 due to their specialties, such as: Mage being able to cure all status effects including petrification, holding large enemies in place with High Grapnel which can shred health bars if properly augmented, and enchanting ally weapons with the most powerful and longest lasting versions of the enchantment spells. Fighter can literally become immortal thanks to all of the life regen armor alongside holy enchanted weapons, plus Dragon's Maw shreds enemies even without proper augments and Sheltered Spike if combined with all stamina increase augments allows you to stab for insane damage and take no damage. Warrior despite being limited to 3 skills can easily run around solo and decimate foes, and while Exodus slash is nice due to the i-frames, Indomitable Lunge is better since it allows you to bulldoze enemies with ease especially with Iraklis due to it being able to proc the 9 times damage increase more often while also allowing you to run around with soft hyper-armor. Ranger maybe able to snipe foes with Great Gamble and shred with blast arrows and Tenfold Flurry, but a great Ranger doesn't need those if they get Dragon's Glaze from BitterBlack Isle as it comes pre-enchanted with ice making all foes a cakewalk with Tenfold Flurry regardless of having blast arrows or not, plus being able to reposition with Cutting Wind and stun enemies with Dazzle Blast makes Daggers a great tool for Ranger. Mystic Knight is just broken and can be used to solo the game with just a bit of practice, but in the hands of a master player can turn Hardmode into "Journalist mode" due to how insanely versatile and strong it is, plus being able to perfect parry Exequy makes the Vocation immortal on BitterBlack Isle, not to mention just how insanely overpowered it's skills are if properly combined. Assassin is, interesting to say the least, cause with Force Hatchet and Dragon's Ire you can easily stroll through the game one-shoting everything as though it had 1hp, but any sword with shield makes you a more agile yet less defensive Fighter, and then daggers are just a cheat code for activating "Journalist mode" due to Masterful Kill which if buffed up with augments and periapts allows it to one-shot practically everything and two-shot everything else. Sorcerer is undoubtedly the strongest due to how versatile it damage types can be due to its' vast list of spells, but just strolling through BitterBlack Isle with High Bolide, High Maelstrom, High Gicel, High Seism, High Fulmination, and Grand Ingle makes the entire place a cakewalk if you cast your spells from around corners or just outside enemy aggro range, plus being able to apply weapon buffs like Mage allows it to abuse Holy-Focused Bolt for insane damage and respectable healing. Strider is astounding due to the well balanced mix of dagger based melee and shortbow ranged combat, and when combined with strong aoe bow skills and powerful single-target dagger skills allows it to adapt to situations the easiest of all Vocations, and if you can get Dragon's Ire enemies who are immune to physical damage will melt thanks to it and Downpour Volley, plus Dazzle Blast is great for when you need to stun and Cutting Wind for a quick reposition, and then Helm Splitter is amazing since it can shred healthbars and prevent all fall damage. Magick Archer is the literal personification of "Journalist mode" it can shred enemies with magick from its' magick bow which has auto-lock thus eliminating the need to aim properly, and then Magick Archers' dagger skills can shred enemies, heal you with ease to the point of eliminating the need for healing items in most circumstances, but the one downside that it has to keep it in line with the others is the fact that it's stat gain per level is roughly 1/3rd that of all other Vocations but that does mean that all stats level up more evenly as you level as Magick Archer, thus allowing you to more easily switch to the others despite them being weaker then what they could be if you focused on them.
Come on Magic Archer isn't Journalist mode. The game predates bad gaming journalism* by at least 4 years and you still have to unlock it. Its more along the lines of Isekai Protagonist Power Fantasy mode. Edit: Mainstream bad gaming journalism.
Mage cant cure petrification. High halidom cures all debilitations except offence/defence lowered and petrification. Sorceror can with voidspell, and magic archer can with ward arrow. Also, sorceror can do all the same buffs as mage. Halidom, anodyne, grapnel, and spellscreen are the only mage exclusive spells.
Can you get a refund 😂. The game is awful imo. The story is non existent. The graphics are ok considering the age and combat is good but I've never ever been so bored in an open world game. Some of the locations are ok but getting there is just a slog. You literally traverse through a bland dull empty world on foot to get to your location then run back again once your done. I found there was nothing that was of any interest. Other fantasy rpgs like skyrim witcher 3 even dragon age had a charm and lore that made you want to explore and discover things but this was just such a dull world you spend majority of it just running to get to the next task. I will say some of the attention to detail is not bad.your characters build effects certain situations and stuff which is a nice touch but for me personally when I delve into an open world map I like to be immersed and I like a world with points of interest and unfortunately this didn't cut it for me. Its only my opinion we are all different. Hope you enjoy the game
@@Akuankka000he isn't pressed lol he said what he didn't like and hoped the other guy could enjoy it. Yall just got mad cause he doesn't like your game
I had forgotton how much I loved this game. Don't remember what class I played, but pawns were so awesome. I'd replay it now while waiting for DD 2 if UW was supported properly. Subbed for your excellent fast-paced but confident and clear presentation, in anticipation of your future DD content.
I loved running a pure sorcerer squad & we all have the same spells so the cast time is always quick as we are charge syncing lol & the aftermath is just ridiculous.
One of the pitfalls newer players fall into is a desire to do as much damage as possible and the belief that doing lots of damage is equal to good gameplay. Dragon's Dogma has some of the most responsive enemy AI out there for fantasy games. By killing monsters as quickly as possible, you miss out on unique and memorable combat systems. Don't be deterred from trying out "weaker" vocations, as they might be exactly what you are looking for in regards to an enjoyable combat experience.
True that, though Sorcerers often need as many spell slots for offensive spells as possible. Meanwhile the Mystic Knight only really needs Ruinous Sigil and Great Cannon, so I wouldn't see any reason not to spend the shield slots on enchants. I've got zero interest in the riposte skills.
@@SotiCoto if you use blessed trance for shield which is enhanced with the ring from BBI and have holy enchanted weapon by your pawn you can use the shield with great cannon on a perfect block and the cannon will spit like a minigun. it goes bezerk. so the shield enchantments are very useful. you just have to know how to use them. I also like demonswrath, a dark shield enchantment because it stores the dark energy on a perfect block and you can release as an attack.
Mystic Knight doesn't need to buff at all. Carry different enchanted weapons at max upgrade with Sinew augment for carry weight and use shield buffs (all are super fast) and counter for massive damage like fire for an instant cast High Ingle and thunder is instant cast High Levin, etc. I know this list is opinionated, but MK is insane in the right hands. Add in the sorcerer's faster casting augment and the Wyrm King Ring and you have yourself a strong counter spell casting machine. 🧙♂️🗡️🛡️
Man. I’ve played this game for years, and I gotta say, Mystic Knight with Assassin augments, learning enemy movesets, is 100% the most busted vocation in the game. You can solo anything in the game with just Abyssal Anguish. Grab a decent one hander and laugh as you take away full health bars per swing on end game content that’s supposed to be difficult. With one spell cast. And the parries just add to the versatility of the class. The yellow vocations are all super strong as well. I’d probably put mystic archer and assassin right below mystic knight for me. My play style just fits really well with the parrying skills and heavy hitting melee attacks. Coming from thousands of hours in the souls series to this game back in the day just made it my preferred way to play. Love the content, love that you point out that even the lower ranked ones in this list have their uses. Keep it up! I made it through end game Outward cuz of your vids. Always super well informed and helpful can’t wait for you to cover some Dragon’s Dogma 2 content when it finally comes out
Interesting point. So you can max a vocation, move on to another and bring some perks from the earlier one? I'm at my first playthrough, rolling an assassin and think about how well it will be since I want to use only a single sword, no shields or bows. But I learned that mystic fighter is too dependant of shield, so I don't know if I should move on.
Sorcerer is really fun, and after playing that you will have a lot of different variety from the classes. Each has loads of interesting things all on their own.
I got to max rank in the strider I think and it unlocks an augment called leg strength so if u use that you are 1 rank lighter in terms of mobility so if u don’t have heavy inventory u can run for days instead of running out of stamina every 5 seconds
You can also just start a new game plus and use dinput8 (a mod) to set your level back down to 1 if you don't wanna lose those precious bitterblack items
If you can find the folder in your steam files that has your save data for the game you can just copy/paste it into a new folder on the desktop. Just copy/paste it back in if you want to swap back to that save file. I made a save right before you pick your starting vocation so that anytime I want to play a new playthrough I can skip the opening section by copy/pasting that file into the folder steam uses to house your save data.
I just found this and this vid is by far in my humble opinion, one of the best concerning classes in DD. Very clearly explained and edited. Thanks SheenShots 🤙🏻 all the best to you, Melbourne Australia 👊🏻
I love your descriptions for each class, you really do them justice. This game is so good and every class feels fun and actually viable. My list matches yours, Magic Archer is the most fun I've had steamrolling a game. Ricochet arrow in BBI is too fun. Only thing I'd add is for assassin just carry some buff magic daggers in your inventory for living armors and switch back and forth.
I think the leveling stats for MA are purposefully bad so it can offset the absolutely insane abilities of the class. But I agree with you, a fully Magick leveled MA is not only OP, but very easy to play as.
I've spent ages putting together ultra balanced stat builds for DD, and I've never featured Magick Archer in any of them. The only reason Mage gets in on the action is because it is the best from 0 to 10, but useless thereafter. Magick Archer, however, is a trap. its effectiveness hinges entirely on having high magick and physical attack, but it barely contributes anything to either... yet it has the easiest possible gameplay to bait low-level players into using it. The best approach is to wait until level 200 before even touching it. In simplest terms, Level 1-10 Mage, 11 to 100 Assassin and 101 to 200 Sorcerer will make for a pretty strong build that can play MA effectively.
I’d probably put mage above fighter and warrior. High granpel absolutely trivializes most encounters in the game, including some of the harder BBI fights. It is akward that you have to support your pawns so much, but even with mages lower magick attack HFB is still works well enough. Now none of these classes are exactly great, it’s really just personal pref which is worse.
My vote goes to Sorcerer. Its very strong, you can get holy focused bolt very early, and its the best class when it comes to mobs of weak enemies. Sure its not the strongest, and it certainly isn't the most engaging(I'll be the first to admit just holding and releasing light attack, with the occasional spell that takes half the fight to cast, can get boring fast). But between the guy who swings a sword really well, the guy who shoots a bow really well, and the guy who commands a facet of the universe to call down lightning, summon massive tornados, and cause meteor showers to attack their enemies, I know who I want to be. And besides, after a certain point unless you are actively trying to weaken yourself you will steamroll just about every enemy in the game, so it becomes more about looking cool than being optimal. And I've never seen anything in any RPG half as cool as a party of Sorcerers synching spells to unleash the apocalypse on an unsuspecting group of bandits.
High Maelstrom annihilates small enemies. Grand Bolide annihilates large enemies (including Golems). And the Holy Charged Jump Shot is just the icing on the cake.
I have over 3000 hours into this game and I absolutely love it. My favorite class has always been mystic knight. I know it's not the strongest, but the style is immaculate, and the feeling when you destroy huge enemies by only parrying them is irreplaceable.
Magic Archer is like to use the Jehuty (from Zone of the Enders) in a medieval fantasy setting... it's soooo goddamn overpowered and easy to play. I play DD for a long time (since PS3's version release) and watched your video to help me to decide what class will I use, since I always end up with Magic Archer or Mystic Knight. Realized that I never played as an Assassin and that is what its going to be. Thank you!
Really nice list. You can tell you know what you're talking about as you're familiar with all classes and their distinct nuances. If you're playing Strider, don't sleep on Fracture Dart! A great skill to bring down and stun a strong flying enemy in no time. Great job.
Someone else mentioned fracture dart to me. I had used it a few times but due to not being able to aim it well I wrote it off. Big mistake. That skill is crazy good.
This is so crazy, I LOVE starting as Strider because I'm a big bow fan, and Mystic Archer seemed really interesting to level after I finished Strider and Ranger!!
I would definitely say one of the great things about this game is the specific skills you can take from each vocation to add it to your arsenal continuously while you decide to take on a new vocation
Dragons dogma is one of the few games where I wanted to play as a magic user. All the classes are truly OP, and they really handed you the skills to be amazing and told you it's your fault if you failed here.
Overall, pretty good. I'd do it a little differently, but I think a lot of that comes down to personal preference. I'd keep Magick Archer as #1, but move Sorcerer to number 2, because magic is really op. There are several common enemies you can't kill without magic, but no enemies you can't kill with magic, thanks to Exequy and the phys component of Gicel. Also, Levitate is better than double jump, a Sorc or Mage can collect all "From a Different Sky" medals by themselves, but a Strider will need to change class for a few of them. It's also worth mentioning that Daemon's second form is a pretty miserable fight for a Strider, and given the importance of farming BBI weapons and armor, that's a notable mark against them. It can be powered through with Explosive Arrows, but that's an extra cost per BBI run the top two classes don't have. Strider is still my favorite class, but I'd say they belong in the 3rd spot.
I do feel like this ranking was based on your personal preference, and that's totally fine, but I do want to point out a few things. An assassin with a sword has access to full moon slash, and that'll guarantee thay they have a way to avoid damage with the invincibility frames. So sword/bow is certainly a thing. I'm surprised that you didn't mention spiral arrow, and how it's the best vocation at inflicting status ailments. You only need to carry a few special arrows & can set yourself up for some big damage. Sorcerer can do a little bit of physical damage. Gicel actually does 1/3 of it's damage as physical damage, so they can actually take out golems of both variety. This also points to how magick archer will actually suffer against metal golem since all of their range attacks are magic. Without a pawn to reach the high disks, they'll be forced to do some warrior shenanigans to reach a disk so high up. Strider can just equip some elemental daggers & then helm split ghosts.
@@eligreg99 yeaahh, but I feel like Dragon Age, specifically Origins, handles the AI companions way better than Dogma. Giving them backstories and making them actual characters not just annoying husks. I don't think co-op is really suited to Dragon Age. I mean, it could be done well, but it's fine as is. Dragon Dogma's fast paced and unique combat system along with large enemies and environments would be an excellent fit for actual co-op.
@@brreakfastYT I’m not saying Dragon’s Dogma has the better party system. I know their AI system is better. My argument is if Dragon’s Dogma made a seamless couch coop experience it would be ahead of Dragon Age. Dragon Age actually can work with coop lol they literally had an online mode that showcased 4 people could play together they’re just lazy. It could’ve Especially worked in Inquisition
I think you forgot to mention about Fighter's Ultimate Move, Dragon's Maw. It is insanely OP and can benefit both Arisen and Pawn. Hired Pawns with this ability have insane survivability because Dragon's Maw have absurd amount of i-frames when used.
There's also the fact that the "stamina drain" issue is completely removed when you remove the shield and have the deflect skill. It reads like you need a shield for that, but you don't. It's more like a parry from Sekiro, or specific weapons from the Souls games.
My favorite is sorcerer with a sorcerer pawn. They sync certain spells and two tornados going off at the same time is pretty epic. Plus the holy bolt is just fantastic. I will switch my pawn to mage sometimes and if they have been a fighter you get a perk that makes your basic attacks more effective so every buff, healing and that holy focused bolt makes my mage, given the correct inclinations pretty awesome.
Tbh, I'm hoping that on top of new skills, they allow Pawns to take on hybrid vocations in DD2, so you could have an OP team of a Magic Archer, a Mystic Knight, an Assassin, and a Mage or hopefully a Sorceror with new healing abilities like a spell that applies some kind of vampiric life steal effect to the team
Having a mystic knight on your team would be absolutely busted. Parry while buffing your while team. Easily the best pawn if they did something like that.
The real best class. Is the one you have the most fun playing. Feels like kind of an obvious thing to say, but people can get really wrapped up in the dagger classes especially strider and magic archer. If dps and speed are your thing then sure these are gonna be the best. But to all players. Seriously. Play whatever you have fun with ok? I play sorcerer 99% of the time. And I still have fun with it to this day. But they all fun and powerful. Don't get to caught up in min maxing. Especially your first playthrough. Enjoy the experience try all vocations. Just have fun.
I'm bought DDDA from eshop for $4.99 yesterday on my Switch Lite. Already level 10. Currently I choose Strider & my main pawn is Mage (only 3 class can choose now). I'm can't wait to choose Magic Archer ❤
Assassin was my favourite, didn't mention it in the video but Gale/Tempest harness is what made me fall in love with the vocation and made me prefer it to strider, got that need for speed
Thank you brother! I just recently got into DDDA and thanks to your tier list I finally decided on a class. It’s mystic knight for me lol! That cannon thing is the best
Great video, I've put over 100 hrs into this game and I'm still learning about all the different ways vocations can be effective, warrior being a personal favorite of mine:)
I love fighters bc it always look so cool to me 😢 but all that you said its true, the other vocations is way better. Good things i instal mods that allow me to use any weapon or skill no matter what class i choose 😄
I didn't even know there was such a mod. You have a link to it or a name? I might try it after I finish my current playthrough and see what game breaking nonsense I can conjure up. 😂
try getting a gauntlet with makes shield do double damage from cursed armor lvl 3 purification and use two bloody knucke ring, equip best shield you can and unequip sword then use cymbal attack and enjoy
Agree on warrior, painful to play but it was the first vocation I picked when I first played this game on the 360 and Arc of Deliverance has me addicted. Sure the other classes are stronger but I always find myself going back to Warrior because Arc of Deliverance does something to the neurons in my brain.
Dragons Dogma is a masterpiece and one of my favorite games of all time. My personal fave classes are Mystic Knight, Assassin and Sorcerer. But all classes are fun and viable
Something to note for Mystic Knight: Perilous/Ruinous Sigil not only creates area denial against smaller enemies, but against monsters it just constantly deals damage and stagger; you can basically stunlock non-flying monsters with Sigil, and you can cast 2 of them stacked on each other
Oh the absolute best thing is two Ruinous Sigils and 3 Great Cannons in the same place. The sigils trigger the cannons, so the moment even a large enemy steps on it, they get bombarded by an absolute ton of damage. A few times now I've popped Fire enchant and a 2-sigil / 3-cannon set-up on that cart where you first meet the Griffin. The instant the Griffin lands on the sigil, it just goes up in flames and dies instantly.
My favorite is ranger, but i also enjoyed sorc and magic archer. You can always use pawn buffs or different weapons if you really need to get around phys resist on ranger.
exactly like you said, I played as a fighter and when I arrived in bitter black isle everything became frustrating, I managed to defeat daimos and the other enemies, but from start to finish on that island I had the feeling I was playing with a "wrong class".
He is really good in his own way, but once you get to the harder content it feels quite difficult compared to having a bow or long range magic attacks.
Thankyou. Watched this before my second run through and it was supper informative. I'd rather have info given to me like this so I can play while listening. So thanks, you should do more on dragons dogma, few months and 2nd comes out.
I can't tell you how many times i have watched this video. Getting ready for DD2. First time playing this game and I've been following this video to the T
My guy, magic archer can't be number one because they can't use blast arrows. Blast arrows give the ranger with the tenfold arrow the highest DPS in the game unless they changed it for newer gen consoles. But back in the day that was the answer.
6:21 “you can be monster in battle” i kinda believe it since your warrior send flying final boss of Isle (at least I think its him since I played this game really long ago)
All Mystic knight mains cringed when he said he said you have to buff your weapons, on mystic knight you should instead carry enchanted weapons as whatever element in that enchanted weapons carries over to your skills it just doesn’t have have the visual look as when you manually enchant your weapons, this also lets you carry multiple elemental weapons to exploit different enemies weaknesses and the only thing you buff is your shield which is a fast buff that can be done in the middle of battle, other than that I think everyone can agree with the list the only thing I would personally change is Warrior 8 and Fighter 7. Even thought I say this about Mystic knight I still think you have it ranked where it should be also if explosive arrows where ever taken to account it would put all vocations with bows at the top
Brand new to this game and this was super helpful. It would have made some of the classes "too" OP, but having daggers not automatically be paired would be an interesting option (i.e., you can equip two different types of daggers, each with their own special effects).
Just got into the game two weeks ago and finally leveled up ALL vocations this morning. If i have to be honest my top three are definitely Sorcerer, Ranger and Mystic Knight.
Greatsword Max is a great overhaul mod for warriors. Changes a bunch of the moves and allows for the use of a shield so you get the shield skills, also allows you to use forward roll to dodge. That with the Berserk armor restored mod has really turned this into a Guts simulator.
The warrior and fighter carry hard in the early game, but by late game BBI they feel more like supports for the ranged vocations. Having played a fair amount of warrior, it can get through all the content, but my first playthroughs were with ranger and assassin, and the difference is massive. Hopefully DD2 gives warriors something to make them less gimped by their range and lack of magic damage. Personally, I think they should buff "Arc of Deliverance" so it completely ignores all resistances when fully charged. Both Audacity and Temerity should be core skills instead of augments, as no other vocation really makes use of them, at least not to the extent that warrior can. There's no point where you don't want the benefits these augments provide. It's not like the other vocations, that can comfortably pick and choose what augments they want without sacrificing deeps. Getting knocked out of Arc is a huge damage loss, especially for one of the melee vocations that has to work the hardest for its damage.
I mostly agree my top 3 are your top 3 my bottom 3 are also your bottom 3 the only thing I'd like to add is living armour isn't immune to magick it has around 1500 magick defense if I remember correctly hence why you can kill them with 9fold bolt(it deals pure magick) now there are ways to bypass that 1500 defense easily with all of the magick based classes(yes even mages high comestion has 800 base magick damage without the variable amount added by cote and weapon magick) as for toughest enemies to fight with as a sorcerer golems are harder than metal golems(ironically) the reason being is that (high) mealstorm can pull disks together and when the enemies are close together bolide does a s... ton of damage (with quite good physical power) one high mealstorm and one grand bolide either kills a metal golem Or leaves it very nearly dead based on your magick stats
dude im just now getting into this game. I had it on switch for awhile even then I never got into it on switch. The animations/combat in this game feel like someones making a massive joke. Like it feels like a elden ring type game but with very outdated graphics. They were seriously ahead of its time and im so sad I didnt know about this game on release. It would have been my favorite game of all time forreal.
All pawns have knowledge of battles. Read over their knowledge of enemies and they'll have a way to bring flyers down and make quick work of most too. Mage is primarily just a healer/support depending on what skills are equipped.
Warrior - Why allow the enemy a time to recover? Fighter - Why should I ever get hit? (Also don't bother Blocking just I-frame) Mage - I have no Idea... Sorcerer - F_ck this particular Goblin with a Tornado, or the North Pole. Mystic Knight - The Prodigy. Strider - No Brain vocation... Actually not kidding. Assassin - Jack of all trades. Ranger - Just fun overall. Magick Archer - Lose that brain and just Unga Bunga.
Hey! I'm actually playing DD2 and i was looking back for theses classes. Not totally agree for the Mystic Knight weakness because if i remember correctly, you can boost your cast so much (i don't remember if this is with a ring or spell 🤔) that you can rename it to a "Sorcerer Knight" 😂 I hope for a good dlc with that class! Good video!
I was actually kind of expecting magic knight to be lower on the list, it gets memed on a ton, as one of the few people who actually main magic knight (listen you kill the Ur dragon solo it does something) gotta say very impressive
Don't worries if your favorite class is "bad" ranked for you. Just remember : "All Vocations are op"
trueee
Yes, and that class will help you increasing your stat planner
The One who earned Chad title for sticking it through.
*Infinite Cringe*
That's true if you know how to build properly
This needs to be pinned lol.
Mad respect to DD for making all classes and playstyles viable
Wish we had The Dragonforge class, a spear user! >D
Look forward to see that in DD2, haha
@@raphathekidwhy is it that so many fantasy games lack polearm classes or just polearms in general? I want my spears lol
Si son divertidas todas
@@GrimViridian If you try Final Fantasy 14, you'll have lots of fun (and Deaths) as Derpgoon. I mean, Dragoon, haha >D
@@raphathekid it's funny you say that. Was just playing it last night and drg was my first job lol
I love that Sorcerer's Synchronized Casting passive doesn't just make you cast faster together, but if you start casting the same spell as another sorcerer, you IMMEDIATELY jump to the same point of progression in the cast as them. So if they're less than a second from finishing that big old charge of High Bolide and you start casting, congrats, you just got to let rip a crapload of meteors for less than a second cast time. And that feels AMAZING.
This is an underrated comment. I know so many veterans of the game that JUST recently learned about this. Synch casting in all mage parties can be very fun and rewarding. The other thing people seem to always miss or gloss over is that you can make classes stronger by leveling up classes that are base to that class. I.e. leveling up mage strengthens magic archer and mystic knight and lets you buy some skills from the respective pools.
For Mystic Knight, I would recommend *not* enchanting your weapon and instead carrying weapons with enchantments already on them. Yes, it's tedious going into the menu to swap weapons, but so is all the buffs you mentioned. Choice is yours. Also, you don't have to bother with Abyssal Anguish if you don't need to melee an enemy and can rely on elemental ripostes, which are very powerful. That just leaves Ruinous Sigil and Great Cannon, which are also situational. Just use the best tool for the job at the time.
Well said. Moreover, you have a limited number of skill slots. So, it is better to bring enchanted weapons than assign a couple of skill slots for enchantments.
Ture the only time I bring enchanting is for the dark bishop boss fight in BBI I don't remember if there is a Dark enchanted weapon I can get to deal with him easily or I'll just art of obliteration him when I become a warrior again it's my main
Agreed. My standard opening is to enchant my shield, drop a cannon or two and walk up to the biggest guy in the room and dare him to hit me. My Sorcerer Fulminates the cannons for a magical MG-42 and my Fighter and Strider go do fighter and strider things.
Tbh not as tedious as what he described in the video. This is what I do and it works WONDERS
Yeah I'd recommend just using the cursed light, definitely best sword for mystic knight, instead of using the devil's bane and hen enchanting it constantly
As the wiseman Caxton always says "They're masterworks all. You can't go wrong!". All classes in this game are more than worthwhile your time, so you only benefit of trying all of them out at some point.
one of the best parts of this game is being able to take augments from other classes and putting in on whatever you are running. taking the augment that skyrockets magic damage from sorcerer and slapping it on your magic archer is a game changer
Adds a lot of customization to builds that would otherwise be very similar each time.
Hey you can't do that, that's cheating :v
@@youwantgoodrng Not cheating if its an obvious feature :D
how do you do that
purchases a class specific augment then equip it in any class once purchased @@denzelherrman
Strider is my personal favourite vocation, and I think it’s a testament to how great Strider is when the Vocation considered The Best™️ by so many is basically just “Strider, but with Magic.”
I’ve been playing this game since Vanilla Dogma and I’m still impressed with how incredible it’s combat is and how I’m still learning new things about it.
I’m absolutely hyped for DD2!
Strider is pretty OP itself. If I had to pick one class to solo the game, would be Strider over assassin. Damage with the shortbow is good enough(and Blast Arrows exist), and fracture dart is great. It has climbing damage bonus vs a few late-game bosses and superior climbing speed(combine with Gloves of Might for stupid speed), plus Thousand Kisses and Brain Splitter. You have enchanted daggers for dealing with physical immune foes, and the shortbow can deal with metal golems and their floating, magic-immune medals.
Strider with the strength augments + eminence and opportunism is nuts. 2 free augment slots left for whatever else you could need. Adhesion and Sinew or Leg Strength round it out.
It's SUCH a good vocation for really feeling the game
Dual daggers are lame
@@Airinas96L take
I got back into Outward because of your videos and loved it so much more the 2nd time around, then I saw the sorcerer clips you were making and had to try this game. Pretty sure we have the same taste in games and couldn't be more appreciative of your efforts Sheen! Thank you!
Glad you got back into Outward! game is so much more fun when you are more aware of what's going on. As for this game... man its so awesome climbing monsters and using cool skills. Hope you continue to enjoy the channel!
How to get magic archer in the beginning of the game? It is only three option to choose?
Dope I just beat outward and hopped back on Elden ring for a bit got bored again and saw all the hype for DD2 so I bought DD1 to see how’s it’s like this game is so sick the learning curve is wild I’m level 13 first day playing so hyped for DD2 now just pre ordered it cheers
@@akangflint2534I’m sure you figured this out already but you gotta progress and you can change vocations I believe at level 10 lol
@luketexas DD2 is gonna be crazy, the vocation teaser videos have been so fire!
Ah yes, my Mighty Warrior Class getting shafted a skill page just because of Two-handing a weapon.
It was still my most enjoyed and most used class despite its short-comings.
Yea this is the reason i don't play warrior as i play MK and 9 skills is ok for me as i like to constantly change my fighting style (at least on those weaker enemies where i can style on them.). 3 is just criminal (also no double jump/levitate for red classes). Imagine a sorc having only 3 skills lol.
For 90% of the game you don't even need skills as a warrior. Jumping in the air and slamming your sword down on things solves most situations with comical ease. But as noted, the main drawback is flying enemies.
@SotiCoto yeah but this is the Warrior class brandishing a comically large sword meant to devastate large groups of enemies in wide-arcing swings and toppling gigantic monsters, I didn't wanna play a Dragoon and just jump and slam into the ground all the time and neglect most of my kit since that gets boring real quick.
@@tobiasrex8052honestly I totally get how you feel but the truth is you don't need to spam jumping light attack to play warrior well. Jumping heavy attack looks much better and is still super effective. Also, if you get the augment ferocity which increases the power of your base weapon combos, they become devastating on warrior. Couple that with Exodus Slash that let's you avoid damage and the class becomes really fun to me.
@GeeGe. sad part is a lot of enemies (while playing on Hard difficulty) were given hyper armor/poise and just swing through your combos despite them being "devastating" and interrupt you if the hit was big enough. You lost so much for Warrior when you played on Hard.
Hopefully Capcom has balanced the classes around a bit and maybe the heavy attacks worth using now since they were garbage in the 1st game as well.
I finally found a recent vid on Dragons Dogma. I'm about a month into this game and loving it. But there is alot out dated content out there.I'm happy to see I'm not the only one still playing.
I think my personal favorite Vocation will always be Mystic Knight.
I always like Paladin type builds, and I love to balance magic with sword and shield builds.
I understand and respect why you chose Magick Archer for first.
It covers all the strengths of each type of damage and range style, and it really seems absolutely broken!
Awesome video!
I feel mystic knight is the most broken with magic cannon. I played all class and final boss on hardest mystic knight and magic archer wins.
@@KhoiBoaYeah and it's magical perfect blocks!
MK is my favorite class and honestly outside of abyssal anguish I don't use the other weapon buff skills. Like you said, it adds a lot of prep time to battles, and the duration on the MK weapon buff is the shortest of all the classes while also taking the longest to charge. They honestly feel like a bit of a trap, as where MK truly shines is in royal guarding everything to death. The shield buff spells cast way faster, and lasts longer too. If you want a weapon buff, get a sorcerer or mage to cast it instead, although admittedly it will leave your fate to the whims of the pawn AI. What I'll run on my shield is either two different elemental shield buff spells for weakness coverage + abyssal anguish, or one elemental shield buff + abyssal anguish + demonswrath if what I'm fighting resists my main shield buff. Also as effective as long range magick cannon spam is, I prefer to actually cast it in melee. That way my attacks hit both the monster and my cannon, enemy attacks can also trigger the cannon, and if your parries hit your cannon it'll also cause it to fire even more bolts. Ruinous sigil will also repeatedly trigger the cannon if you place it in the sigil's radius and an enemy walks into it! And you can cancel out of cast charging with a block, which makes casting in melee a lot more viable and fluid. So while long range magick cannon playstyle is safe, if you find MK boring I highly recommend using it in the thick of combat instead.
The only reason I don't abuse riposte skills is because I play my MK as if Dragon's Dogma was Quest for Glory 6 and I imported a Paladin with magic points.
...also because they're honestly strong enough to triviallise fights at times
I've toyed with riposte skills, but they're just not that great. That time spent trying to parry attacks could be spent putting down ruinous sigils and great cannons, which will stop the enemy even getting close enough to be parried in the first place.
Mage is probably my favorite classes. The visceral thrill of Sorcerer's spells is always tempting but I love the versatility of the Mage. Heck, I love most of the classes in this game.
Mage definitely has a lot of versatility when it comes to how you approach combat. Which is always fun to mess with.
Grapnel is about the only interesting thing the Mage has. I've seen loads of Mage pawns online, but a Sorcerer with Healing Spring Flasks can even cover the healing role better than a Mage can. And Mages can't sync-cast.
@SotiCoto well, it's all a matter of opinion, isn't it?
Genuinely, every vocation has its moment. Been playing this game since like 2015 and its still amazing
Ranger is great at taking advantage of the damage bonuses you get for disabled enemies... 1 arrow to put an elden ogre to sleep, 1 arrow to remove half its life, repeat :D
All classes in my opinion are number 1 due to their specialties, such as:
Mage being able to cure all status effects including petrification, holding large enemies in place with High Grapnel which can shred health bars if properly augmented, and enchanting ally weapons with the most powerful and longest lasting versions of the enchantment spells.
Fighter can literally become immortal thanks to all of the life regen armor alongside holy enchanted weapons, plus Dragon's Maw shreds enemies even without proper augments and Sheltered Spike if combined with all stamina increase augments allows you to stab for insane damage and take no damage.
Warrior despite being limited to 3 skills can easily run around solo and decimate foes, and while Exodus slash is nice due to the i-frames, Indomitable Lunge is better since it allows you to bulldoze enemies with ease especially with Iraklis due to it being able to proc the 9 times damage increase more often while also allowing you to run around with soft hyper-armor.
Ranger maybe able to snipe foes with Great Gamble and shred with blast arrows and Tenfold Flurry, but a great Ranger doesn't need those if they get Dragon's Glaze from BitterBlack Isle as it comes pre-enchanted with ice making all foes a cakewalk with Tenfold Flurry regardless of having blast arrows or not, plus being able to reposition with Cutting Wind and stun enemies with Dazzle Blast makes Daggers a great tool for Ranger.
Mystic Knight is just broken and can be used to solo the game with just a bit of practice, but in the hands of a master player can turn Hardmode into "Journalist mode" due to how insanely versatile and strong it is, plus being able to perfect parry Exequy makes the Vocation immortal on BitterBlack Isle, not to mention just how insanely overpowered it's skills are if properly combined.
Assassin is, interesting to say the least, cause with Force Hatchet and Dragon's Ire you can easily stroll through the game one-shoting everything as though it had 1hp, but any sword with shield makes you a more agile yet less defensive Fighter, and then daggers are just a cheat code for activating "Journalist mode" due to Masterful Kill which if buffed up with augments and periapts allows it to one-shot practically everything and two-shot everything else.
Sorcerer is undoubtedly the strongest due to how versatile it damage types can be due to its' vast list of spells, but just strolling through BitterBlack Isle with High Bolide, High Maelstrom, High Gicel, High Seism, High Fulmination, and Grand Ingle makes the entire place a cakewalk if you cast your spells from around corners or just outside enemy aggro range, plus being able to apply weapon buffs like Mage allows it to abuse Holy-Focused Bolt for insane damage and respectable healing.
Strider is astounding due to the well balanced mix of dagger based melee and shortbow ranged combat, and when combined with strong aoe bow skills and powerful single-target dagger skills allows it to adapt to situations the easiest of all Vocations, and if you can get Dragon's Ire enemies who are immune to physical damage will melt thanks to it and Downpour Volley, plus Dazzle Blast is great for when you need to stun and Cutting Wind for a quick reposition, and then Helm Splitter is amazing since it can shred healthbars and prevent all fall damage.
Magick Archer is the literal personification of "Journalist mode" it can shred enemies with magick from its' magick bow which has auto-lock thus eliminating the need to aim properly, and then Magick Archers' dagger skills can shred enemies, heal you with ease to the point of eliminating the need for healing items in most circumstances, but the one downside that it has to keep it in line with the others is the fact that it's stat gain per level is roughly 1/3rd that of all other Vocations but that does mean that all stats level up more evenly as you level as Magick Archer, thus allowing you to more easily switch to the others despite them being weaker then what they could be if you focused on them.
Come on Magic Archer isn't Journalist mode. The game predates bad gaming journalism* by at least 4 years and you still have to unlock it. Its more along the lines of Isekai Protagonist Power Fantasy mode.
Edit: Mainstream bad gaming journalism.
mage cant cure all... wtf u talking about
Mage cant cure petrification. High halidom cures all debilitations except offence/defence lowered and petrification. Sorceror can with voidspell, and magic archer can with ward arrow. Also, sorceror can do all the same buffs as mage. Halidom, anodyne, grapnel, and spellscreen are the only mage exclusive spells.
"journalist mode" 💀
This is why I love dragons dogma all classes are so good on how you use them
Just bought Dragon's Dogma and came across your videos. Subscribed for the DD videos and info. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Can you get a refund 😂. The game is awful imo. The story is non existent. The graphics are ok considering the age and combat is good but I've never ever been so bored in an open world game. Some of the locations are ok but getting there is just a slog. You literally traverse through a bland dull empty world on foot to get to your location then run back again once your done. I found there was nothing that was of any interest. Other fantasy rpgs like skyrim witcher 3 even dragon age had a charm and lore that made you want to explore and discover things but this was just such a dull world you spend majority of it just running to get to the next task. I will say some of the attention to detail is not bad.your characters build effects certain situations and stuff which is a nice touch but for me personally when I delve into an open world map I like to be immersed and I like a world with points of interest and unfortunately this didn't cut it for me. Its only my opinion we are all different. Hope you enjoy the game
@@rosspeters7551lol why are you so pressed
@@rosspeters7551
>Likes Skyrim
>Says Dragon's Dogma is boring
Yeah okay guy
@@Akuankka000he isn't pressed lol he said what he didn't like and hoped the other guy could enjoy it. Yall just got mad cause he doesn't like your game
I always start at Strider and change vocation to Magick Archer. I wasn't sure if anyone else enjoyed this class as much as I do!
My first playthrough right now that's what I did
What level did you switch your vocation?
@@TheStudio_70 When I reached Gran Soren 😀
@@MiyuEmi I just hit level 16 so I think I’m going to switch now lol.
I had forgotton how much I loved this game. Don't remember what class I played, but pawns were so awesome. I'd replay it now while waiting for DD 2 if UW was supported properly. Subbed for your excellent fast-paced but confident and clear presentation, in anticipation of your future DD content.
UW?
If I'm not mistaken, there's someone that was able to fully one shot death full health, with a warrior build.
yes, using act of vengance and tenacity augment to resist mimic insta kill spell and make act of vengance broken
GamaV the goat
I loved running a pure sorcerer squad & we all have the same spells so the cast time is always quick as we are charge syncing lol & the aftermath is just ridiculous.
One of the pitfalls newer players fall into is a desire to do as much damage as possible and the belief that doing lots of damage is equal to good gameplay. Dragon's Dogma has some of the most responsive enemy AI out there for fantasy games. By killing monsters as quickly as possible, you miss out on unique and memorable combat systems. Don't be deterred from trying out "weaker" vocations, as they might be exactly what you are looking for in regards to an enjoyable combat experience.
but i just can't resist dire gougeing every big hp enemy to death in like 5 seconds
Yeah I always like going easy on Damon instead of instantly annihilating him because his fight is so fucking awesome
Nah, I just Brain Splitter, Climb + Thousand Kisses, or Pentad, Fivefold, and Downpour everything to Oblivion.
if your pawn enchants your weapon, you can save time as a mystic knight. just press the help key while not in battle.
True that, though Sorcerers often need as many spell slots for offensive spells as possible. Meanwhile the Mystic Knight only really needs Ruinous Sigil and Great Cannon, so I wouldn't see any reason not to spend the shield slots on enchants. I've got zero interest in the riposte skills.
@@SotiCoto if you use blessed trance for shield which is enhanced with the ring from BBI and have holy enchanted weapon by your pawn you can use the shield with great cannon on a perfect block and the cannon will spit like a minigun. it goes bezerk. so the shield enchantments are very useful. you just have to know how to use them. I also like demonswrath, a dark shield enchantment because it stores the dark energy on a perfect block and you can release as an attack.
I know I’m probably YEARS late but the newer generation assassins creed games stole a lot from this game 😂
Warrior Fighter and Ranger are my top three best vocations in that order, Warrior being the best as it is the most time sunken into it!
Mystic Knight doesn't need to buff at all. Carry different enchanted weapons at max upgrade with Sinew augment for carry weight and use shield buffs (all are super fast) and counter for massive damage like fire for an instant cast High Ingle and thunder is instant cast High Levin, etc. I know this list is opinionated, but MK is insane in the right hands. Add in the sorcerer's faster casting augment and the Wyrm King Ring and you have yourself a strong counter spell casting machine. 🧙♂️🗡️🛡️
Fine... ill play dragons dogma again... great video gamer ❤
I watched your Outward vid. Great stuff. Good luck with the Dogma run!
Man. I’ve played this game for years, and I gotta say, Mystic Knight with Assassin augments, learning enemy movesets, is 100% the most busted vocation in the game. You can solo anything in the game with just Abyssal Anguish. Grab a decent one hander and laugh as you take away full health bars per swing on end game content that’s supposed to be difficult. With one spell cast. And the parries just add to the versatility of the class. The yellow vocations are all super strong as well. I’d probably put mystic archer and assassin right below mystic knight for me. My play style just fits really well with the parrying skills and heavy hitting melee attacks. Coming from thousands of hours in the souls series to this game back in the day just made it my preferred way to play. Love the content, love that you point out that even the lower ranked ones in this list have their uses. Keep it up! I made it through end game Outward cuz of your vids. Always super well informed and helpful can’t wait for you to cover some Dragon’s Dogma 2 content when it finally comes out
Interesting point. So you can max a vocation, move on to another and bring some perks from the earlier one?
I'm at my first playthrough, rolling an assassin and think about how well it will be since I want to use only a single sword, no shields or bows.
But I learned that mystic fighter is too dependant of shield, so I don't know if I should move on.
I'm about 30 hours in and have gone all Sorcerer so far. I'm definitely looking forward to the other vocations.
Sorcerer is really fun, and after playing that you will have a lot of different variety from the classes. Each has loads of interesting things all on their own.
I got to max rank in the strider I think and it unlocks an augment called leg strength so if u use that you are 1 rank lighter in terms of mobility so if u don’t have heavy inventory u can run for days instead of running out of stamina every 5 seconds
Wish I could have multiple saves so it wouldn’t replace my current one. I’m also playing this game on Pc ❤
if you pull the save file out into a folder on your desktop you can. just remember to change it out when you want to go back
also there's a mod for that
You can also just start a new game plus and use dinput8 (a mod) to set your level back down to 1 if you don't wanna lose those precious bitterblack items
If you can find the folder in your steam files that has your save data for the game you can just copy/paste it into a new folder on the desktop. Just copy/paste it back in if you want to swap back to that save file. I made a save right before you pick your starting vocation so that anytime I want to play a new playthrough I can skip the opening section by copy/pasting that file into the folder steam uses to house your save data.
I just found this and this vid is by far in my humble opinion, one of the best concerning classes in DD. Very clearly explained and edited. Thanks SheenShots 🤙🏻 all the best to you, Melbourne Australia 👊🏻
I love your descriptions for each class, you really do them justice. This game is so good and every class feels fun and actually viable. My list matches yours, Magic Archer is the most fun I've had steamrolling a game. Ricochet arrow in BBI is too fun.
Only thing I'd add is for assassin just carry some buff magic daggers in your inventory for living armors and switch back and forth.
I think the leveling stats for MA are purposefully bad so it can offset the absolutely insane abilities of the class. But I agree with you, a fully Magick leveled MA is not only OP, but very easy to play as.
I mean the magic defense does increase the heal from Scension
Play first 50 lvl as strider and second 50 Lvl as sorcerer. When 100 you can be a very effective MA.
I've spent ages putting together ultra balanced stat builds for DD, and I've never featured Magick Archer in any of them. The only reason Mage gets in on the action is because it is the best from 0 to 10, but useless thereafter. Magick Archer, however, is a trap. its effectiveness hinges entirely on having high magick and physical attack, but it barely contributes anything to either... yet it has the easiest possible gameplay to bait low-level players into using it.
The best approach is to wait until level 200 before even touching it. In simplest terms, Level 1-10 Mage, 11 to 100 Assassin and 101 to 200 Sorcerer will make for a pretty strong build that can play MA effectively.
I love the outward reference in your pawn’s name
Thought it would just be funny but it ended up being kind of awesome instead lol.
Sorcerer main for life. Love your list, and the rest of your stuff. Keep it up!
I’d probably put mage above fighter and warrior.
High granpel absolutely trivializes most encounters in the game, including some of the harder BBI fights.
It is akward that you have to support your pawns so much, but even with mages lower magick attack HFB is still works well enough.
Now none of these classes are exactly great, it’s really just personal pref which is worse.
My vote goes to Sorcerer. Its very strong, you can get holy focused bolt very early, and its the best class when it comes to mobs of weak enemies. Sure its not the strongest, and it certainly isn't the most engaging(I'll be the first to admit just holding and releasing light attack, with the occasional spell that takes half the fight to cast, can get boring fast). But between the guy who swings a sword really well, the guy who shoots a bow really well, and the guy who commands a facet of the universe to call down lightning, summon massive tornados, and cause meteor showers to attack their enemies, I know who I want to be.
And besides, after a certain point unless you are actively trying to weaken yourself you will steamroll just about every enemy in the game, so it becomes more about looking cool than being optimal. And I've never seen anything in any RPG half as cool as a party of Sorcerers synching spells to unleash the apocalypse on an unsuspecting group of bandits.
High Maelstrom annihilates small enemies. Grand Bolide annihilates large enemies (including Golems). And the Holy Charged Jump Shot is just the icing on the cake.
Btw, instantly one shotting death is possible with warrior with the correct augments. Hitting up 6 mil damage if you can get it right.
I have over 3000 hours into this game and I absolutely love it. My favorite class has always been mystic knight. I know it's not the strongest, but the style is immaculate, and the feeling when you destroy huge enemies by only parrying them is irreplaceable.
Magic Archer is like to use the Jehuty (from Zone of the Enders) in a medieval fantasy setting... it's soooo goddamn overpowered and easy to play.
I play DD for a long time (since PS3's version release) and watched your video to help me to decide what class will I use, since I always end up with Magic Archer or Mystic Knight. Realized that I never played as an Assassin and that is what its going to be. Thank you!
Assassin is crazy cool and well worth trying.
Really nice list. You can tell you know what you're talking about as you're familiar with all classes and their distinct nuances. If you're playing Strider, don't sleep on Fracture Dart! A great skill to bring down and stun a strong flying enemy in no time. Great job.
Someone else mentioned fracture dart to me. I had used it a few times but due to not being able to aim it well I wrote it off. Big mistake. That skill is crazy good.
@@SheenShots Great skill, but only if you can time the explosion properly. I prefer not thinking with my striders.
Also Magic archer has their flare arrow ability which is a huge quality of life improvement when exploring tombs.
This is so crazy, I LOVE starting as Strider because I'm a big bow fan, and Mystic Archer seemed really interesting to level after I finished Strider and Ranger!!
I would definitely say one of the great things about this game is the specific skills you can take from each vocation to add it to your arsenal continuously while you decide to take on a new vocation
Dragons dogma is one of the few games where I wanted to play as a magic user. All the classes are truly OP, and they really handed you the skills to be amazing and told you it's your fault if you failed here.
The skills are an absolute blast to use that's for sure.
Overall, pretty good. I'd do it a little differently, but I think a lot of that comes down to personal preference.
I'd keep Magick Archer as #1, but move Sorcerer to number 2, because magic is really op. There are several common enemies you can't kill without magic, but no enemies you can't kill with magic, thanks to Exequy and the phys component of Gicel.
Also, Levitate is better than double jump, a Sorc or Mage can collect all "From a Different Sky" medals by themselves, but a Strider will need to change class for a few of them.
It's also worth mentioning that Daemon's second form is a pretty miserable fight for a Strider, and given the importance of farming BBI weapons and armor, that's a notable mark against them. It can be powered through with Explosive Arrows, but that's an extra cost per BBI run the top two classes don't have.
Strider is still my favorite class, but I'd say they belong in the 3rd spot.
Thank you sir. I know that creating this video took up quite some time. Very insightful to someone like me that had no idea what vocation to choose.
I do feel like this ranking was based on your personal preference, and that's totally fine, but I do want to point out a few things.
An assassin with a sword has access to full moon slash, and that'll guarantee thay they have a way to avoid damage with the invincibility frames. So sword/bow is certainly a thing.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention spiral arrow, and how it's the best vocation at inflicting status ailments. You only need to carry a few special arrows & can set yourself up for some big damage.
Sorcerer can do a little bit of physical damage. Gicel actually does 1/3 of it's damage as physical damage, so they can actually take out golems of both variety. This also points to how magick archer will actually suffer against metal golem since all of their range attacks are magic. Without a pawn to reach the high disks, they'll be forced to do some warrior shenanigans to reach a disk so high up.
Strider can just equip some elemental daggers & then helm split ghosts.
Man.. this just, once again, makes me wish Dragon's Dogma had actual co-op. It would be incredibly fun.
This game has so much potential for coop. Better than Dragon Age
@@eligreg99 While I agree with you, I don't really see the point in comparing the two.
@@brreakfastYT Well in Dragon Age you have a party that you can recruit similar to Dragon’s Dogma
@@eligreg99 yeaahh, but I feel like Dragon Age, specifically Origins, handles the AI companions way better than Dogma. Giving them backstories and making them actual characters not just annoying husks. I don't think co-op is really suited to Dragon Age. I mean, it could be done well, but it's fine as is. Dragon Dogma's fast paced and unique combat system along with large enemies and environments would be an excellent fit for actual co-op.
@@brreakfastYT I’m not saying Dragon’s Dogma has the better party system. I know their AI system is better. My argument is if Dragon’s Dogma made a seamless couch coop experience it would be ahead of Dragon Age. Dragon Age actually can work with coop lol they literally had an online mode that showcased 4 people could play together they’re just lazy. It could’ve Especially worked in Inquisition
I think you forgot to mention about Fighter's Ultimate Move, Dragon's Maw. It is insanely OP and can benefit both Arisen and Pawn. Hired Pawns with this ability have insane survivability because Dragon's Maw have absurd amount of i-frames when used.
There's also the fact that the "stamina drain" issue is completely removed when you remove the shield and have the deflect skill. It reads like you need a shield for that, but you don't. It's more like a parry from Sekiro, or specific weapons from the Souls games.
My favorite is sorcerer with a sorcerer pawn. They sync certain spells and two tornados going off at the same time is pretty epic. Plus the holy bolt is just fantastic. I will switch my pawn to mage sometimes and if they have been a fighter you get a perk that makes your basic attacks more effective so every buff, healing and that holy focused bolt makes my mage, given the correct inclinations pretty awesome.
Love when you jump on a game as that means i get solid content/guides! Might have to start the xbox one version
Glad you enjoy the guides. I sometimes take a while to really find a game that fits for channel content, but once I do its go time lol
Tbh, I'm hoping that on top of new skills, they allow Pawns to take on hybrid vocations in DD2, so you could have an OP team of a Magic Archer, a Mystic Knight, an Assassin, and a Mage or hopefully a Sorceror with new healing abilities like a spell that applies some kind of vampiric life steal effect to the team
Having a mystic knight on your team would be absolutely busted. Parry while buffing your while team. Easily the best pawn if they did something like that.
Already confirmed that pawns will have a limited class pool like last time. The new Trickster class is Arisen only.
theres more buttons on more modern controllers so it should be much easier to map more than "3" skills to a command,
I really hope the classes in the Dragon's Dogma online makes it to DD2, would love to try that magic pugilist-like class, punching with magic
That does sound pretty good 😄
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The real best class. Is the one you have the most fun playing. Feels like kind of an obvious thing to say, but people can get really wrapped up in the dagger classes especially strider and magic archer. If dps and speed are your thing then sure these are gonna be the best. But to all players. Seriously. Play whatever you have fun with ok? I play sorcerer 99% of the time. And I still have fun with it to this day. But they all fun and powerful. Don't get to caught up in min maxing. Especially your first playthrough. Enjoy the experience try all vocations. Just have fun.
I'm bought DDDA from eshop for $4.99 yesterday on my Switch Lite. Already level 10. Currently I choose Strider & my main pawn is Mage (only 3 class can choose now). I'm can't wait to choose Magic Archer ❤
Mystick knight = tactical gigachad
Riposte all the things.
Assassin was my favourite, didn't mention it in the video but Gale/Tempest harness is what made me fall in love with the vocation and made me prefer it to strider, got that need for speed
Thank you brother! I just recently got into DDDA and thanks to your tier list I finally decided on a class. It’s mystic knight for me lol! That cannon thing is the best
Great video, I've put over 100 hrs into this game and I'm still learning about all the different ways vocations can be effective, warrior being a personal favorite of mine:)
I love fighters bc it always look so cool to me 😢 but all that you said its true, the other vocations is way better. Good things i instal mods that allow me to use any weapon or skill no matter what class i choose 😄
Oh nice. I thought about trying that mod to see how it shakes up the gameplay.
I didn't even know there was such a mod. You have a link to it or a name? I might try it after I finish my current playthrough and see what game breaking nonsense I can conjure up. 😂
try getting a gauntlet with makes shield do double damage from cursed armor lvl 3 purification and use two bloody knucke ring, equip best shield you can and unequip sword then use cymbal attack and enjoy
Nice job with this video. Quite informative and I believe you summed it up correctly.
Wow!!!. Now that is an amazing video. Thank you sir.
Sapfire dagger or dragon ire bow and magic boosters make living armor and phantoms easier to deal with as a strider
Agree on warrior, painful to play but it was the first vocation I picked when I first played this game on the 360 and Arc of Deliverance has me addicted.
Sure the other classes are stronger but I always find myself going back to Warrior because Arc of Deliverance does something to the neurons in my brain.
Dragons Dogma is a masterpiece and one of my favorite games of all time.
My personal fave classes are Mystic Knight, Assassin and Sorcerer. But all classes are fun and viable
Something to note for Mystic Knight: Perilous/Ruinous Sigil not only creates area denial against smaller enemies, but against monsters it just constantly deals damage and stagger; you can basically stunlock non-flying monsters with Sigil, and you can cast 2 of them stacked on each other
Oh the absolute best thing is two Ruinous Sigils and 3 Great Cannons in the same place. The sigils trigger the cannons, so the moment even a large enemy steps on it, they get bombarded by an absolute ton of damage. A few times now I've popped Fire enchant and a 2-sigil / 3-cannon set-up on that cart where you first meet the Griffin. The instant the Griffin lands on the sigil, it just goes up in flames and dies instantly.
My favorite is ranger, but i also enjoyed sorc and magic archer. You can always use pawn buffs or different weapons if you really need to get around phys resist on ranger.
My top 3 are magic Archer, Sorcerer and magic knight
exactly like you said, I played as a fighter and when I arrived in bitter black isle everything became frustrating, I managed to defeat daimos and the other enemies, but from start to finish on that island I had the feeling I was playing with a "wrong class".
He is really good in his own way, but once you get to the harder content it feels quite difficult compared to having a bow or long range magic attacks.
Thankyou. Watched this before my second run through and it was supper informative. I'd rather have info given to me like this so I can play while listening. So thanks, you should do more on dragons dogma, few months and 2nd comes out.
Infinite cringe has proved that all vocations are equal in being stupidly powerful
Magick Archer vocation is very OP. Literally it's a kind of a bug of the game.
It's boring.
I can't tell you how many times i have watched this video. Getting ready for DD2. First time playing this game and I've been following this video to the T
Mage would be better to play if the boons upgrade turned them into party boons à la Mystic Knight
100% think that should have been a thing.
My guy, magic archer can't be number one because they can't use blast arrows. Blast arrows give the ranger with the tenfold arrow the highest DPS in the game unless they changed it for newer gen consoles. But back in the day that was the answer.
6:21 “you can be monster in battle” i kinda believe it since your warrior send flying final boss of Isle (at least I think its him since I played this game really long ago)
Yes, last boss. He is really tough to hit with that skill, but get it to work and the results are beautiful.
Since the ring from DLC helps the vocation helps a lot, I'm looking forward to next video that charts those rings :D
All Mystic knight mains cringed when he said he said you have to buff your weapons, on mystic knight you should instead carry enchanted weapons as whatever element in that enchanted weapons carries over to your skills it just doesn’t have have the visual look as when you manually enchant your weapons, this also lets you carry multiple elemental weapons to exploit different enemies weaknesses and the only thing you buff is your shield which is a fast buff that can be done in the middle of battle, other than that I think everyone can agree with the list the only thing I would personally change is Warrior 8 and Fighter 7. Even thought I say this about Mystic knight I still think you have it ranked where it should be also if explosive arrows where ever taken to account it would put all vocations with bows at the top
I did not expect to agree with the entire ranking list. But yeah, that ranking is spot on.
Brand new to this game and this was super helpful. It would have made some of the classes "too" OP, but having daggers not automatically be paired would be an interesting option (i.e., you can equip two different types of daggers, each with their own special effects).
Just got into the game two weeks ago and finally leveled up ALL vocations this morning.
If i have to be honest my top three are definitely Sorcerer, Ranger and Mystic Knight.
Greatsword Max is a great overhaul mod for warriors. Changes a bunch of the moves and allows for the use of a shield so you get the shield skills, also allows you to use forward roll to dodge. That with the Berserk armor restored mod has really turned this into a Guts simulator.
Darn, just started, I'm at level 20+, and still playing Mage class, seems like I'm missing out!
Super glad I'm seeing this video pop up in my feed as I'm playing this video game more than ten years after launch 🤩
The warrior and fighter carry hard in the early game, but by late game BBI they feel more like supports for the ranged vocations. Having played a fair amount of warrior, it can get through all the content, but my first playthroughs were with ranger and assassin, and the difference is massive. Hopefully DD2 gives warriors something to make them less gimped by their range and lack of magic damage.
Personally, I think they should buff "Arc of Deliverance" so it completely ignores all resistances when fully charged. Both Audacity and Temerity should be core skills instead of augments, as no other vocation really makes use of them, at least not to the extent that warrior can. There's no point where you don't want the benefits these augments provide. It's not like the other vocations, that can comfortably pick and choose what augments they want without sacrificing deeps. Getting knocked out of Arc is a huge damage loss, especially for one of the melee vocations that has to work the hardest for its damage.
I mostly agree my top 3 are your top 3 my bottom 3 are also your bottom 3 the only thing I'd like to add is living armour isn't immune to magick it has around 1500 magick defense if I remember correctly hence why you can kill them with 9fold bolt(it deals pure magick) now there are ways to bypass that 1500 defense easily with all of the magick based classes(yes even mages high comestion has 800 base magick damage without the variable amount added by cote and weapon magick) as for toughest enemies to fight with as a sorcerer golems are harder than metal golems(ironically) the reason being is that (high) mealstorm can pull disks together and when the enemies are close together bolide does a s... ton of damage (with quite good physical power) one high mealstorm and one grand bolide either kills a metal golem Or leaves it very nearly dead based on your magick stats
Thanks for this rank, subscribed.
dude im just now getting into this game. I had it on switch for awhile even then I never got into it on switch. The animations/combat in this game feel like someones making a massive joke. Like it feels like a elden ring type game but with very outdated graphics. They were seriously ahead of its time and im so sad I didnt know about this game on release. It would have been my favorite game of all time forreal.
6:01
Daimon: Time for my ultimate move!
Arisen: You sure you want to do this?
I got bored of fromsoft games and found this, and it’s perfect
Very fun combat system that makes it easy to try out a ton of things.
Best vacation is one to with nice beaches..warm waters...friendly people and work being left at home.
All pawns have knowledge of battles. Read over their knowledge of enemies and they'll have a way to bring flyers down and make quick work of most too. Mage is primarily just a healer/support depending on what skills are equipped.
20:43
Mystic knight: hold my 🛡️. For nought shall forstall my judgement.
Warrior - Why allow the enemy a time to recover?
Fighter - Why should I ever get hit? (Also don't bother Blocking just I-frame)
Mage - I have no Idea...
Sorcerer - F_ck this particular Goblin with a Tornado, or the North Pole.
Mystic Knight - The Prodigy.
Strider - No Brain vocation... Actually not kidding.
Assassin - Jack of all trades.
Ranger - Just fun overall.
Magick Archer - Lose that brain and just Unga Bunga.
Perfect conclusion! (I like the mage one lol)
I'm glad... Fighter in number 8... I always do solo fighter, kills everything on BBI.. make every single fight... a Good Fight 😌
Hey! I'm actually playing DD2 and i was looking back for theses classes.
Not totally agree for the Mystic Knight weakness because if i remember correctly, you can boost your cast so much (i don't remember if this is with a ring or spell 🤔) that you can rename it to a "Sorcerer Knight" 😂 I hope for a good dlc with that class!
Good video!
A weird flex saying Mystic Knight is middle of the pack, seeing as it's one of the strongest classes in the game
this is the only game that ive ever completed with every class and keep coming back to play, years of entertainment hopefully 2 is just as good
I was actually kind of expecting magic knight to be lower on the list, it gets memed on a ton, as one of the few people who actually main magic knight (listen you kill the Ur dragon solo it does something) gotta say very impressive