I drove one of these for a week as a loan car, it felt just like a $45k car to me. I used to be a big brand snob but this car changed my mind, the Chinese car companies will own most of the market within 10 years.
I've been living with MY21 Jolion, here is what I find 1. People complain that they can't permanently turn off the monitoring camera in the new Jolion. I turned it off from the system, and it turned off permanently. You can use duck tape if you want if you use newer one. The new one use real dashboard buttons instead of capacitive touch, which is great. 2. There is a shortcut to change several settings. Just swipe from the border of left screen to the right. You can turn on/off heated seat, driving mode, wireless charger (ultra only), and sound settings 3. Changing the aircon is tricky. Just click any aircon-related button and the aircon setting will show up 4. Changing gear is easy. You don't have to look at the dial. Turn it left for several clicks will go to "R". Turn it right will go to either "D" or "M". If you hit "M", turn it right one more time to get "D" or vice versa. 5. Turbo lag is annoying. Just install the throttle controller, and it will cure it. Unfortunately, there is no cure for the dual-clutch confusion :( 6. Fuel economy is 9l/100km urban-traffic, and 6.5 l/100km for freeway driving. On the average, I got around 8.8/100km when refuelling. 7. The most annoying thing about this car is: no telescopic for MY21 and a capacitive touch panel. I agree that the keyless door handle is annoying as it's only available on the driver side. However, you can still open the boot since there is a button there. 8. Overall, it is great value for money (at the time of purchase). There have been no issues so far after 3 years. I still use the original parts (including the tyre and battery). I will keep it longer. Will I consider this brand again? Yes, if they offer a PHEV.
I own a jolion lux 21 model and going from reverse to drive is simple a quick twist flick to the left puts it in reverse then a quick flick to the right puts it into drive ,works every time ,a salesman told me this trick as I complained to him what a pain the dial change was, and this solved it.
Hi! In Russia, Haval Jolion has an all-wheel drive configuration using haldex V. And thanks to this, it became the best-selling car with all-wheel drive. I have one myself. A cheap and unpretentious car with a lot of electronic bells and whistles. P.S. Translated via Google.
The Jolion for me is great. I like the adaptive cruise in my opinion better than the Toyota Corolla. Duck tape has fixed the monitor system. Has heaps of room, can even fit a single mattress in boot with seats down. Fuel usage only slightly more than a Toyota Corolla but way bigger and more fun to drive in my opinion.
If it had a torque converter auto it would be very compelling. As it stands, if you need cheap transport buy a 2 year old one cheap, keep it to the end of the warranty, rinse and repeat.
Use a hybrid and all these transmission issues go away including the fuel efficiency. With the DCT and Turbo engine, the car fuel efficiency depends a lot on the driver. In my experience, use the car on eco mode and you will see a low fuel usage
Yes bugger all DCT,CVT, & traditional Auto Transmissions, they all have there problems & sap energy from the engine, Honda's latest Hybrid has two Motor generators, one attached to the engine & one attached to a simple single gear ratio gear box which drives the front wheels, gets around 4L per 100k in the Civic no accessory drive belts, everything on the engine is electric, it runs in series and or sudo parallel hybrid mode, either way always running on electric drive only, so smooth & instant!, & waaaay less to go wrong!, all cars should be made this way, with the option of plug in & bigger battery!.
Have had a 2021 for a few months. Petrol eco is dire but other issues less so. You can adjust most if not all safety settings, you can access some via a swipe gesture from left side of screen, and you can lower indicator volume. The camera is a stand out. Turning circle not great, seats are ok but not great for tall folks, lots of cabin space and noise is no worse than my 2008 bmw. If I had the $ I’d buy a hybrid but right now not an option, but do I regret this car, no, it does what it claims, it’s not a rally car or a luxury and I’m all good with those being how it rolls.
Pony up a little bit more and get the Haval H6. GWM spent a lot more money on the H6 development especially the H6 Hybrid because it had to go against the Rav 4 Hybrid. It's a vastly better car for a little bit more.
For mid 20s price its not bad at all considering it would be close to comparing a 14 thousand dollar Exell 25 years ago and they were tagged as being disposable after a few years, boy were we wrong.
Hi Matt. Love your detailed and honest car reviews. May I please request a review on the Skoda Fabia Select and the updated Hyundai i30 N Line hatch. Keep up the good work.
I have a Jolion Lux 2024 just 5 weeks old. Recently ive returned home from holidays Question for you and your followers. While using cruise control the car decides to just to pull up for know reason at all. 4 limes this happened to me. NO other cars in sight. Just me and the road. And believe me it's frightening. To over come this I just don't use cruise control...
While I see why you didn't like it, I do think the S grade had some merit from its independent rear suspension which IMO made it handle slightly better (despite being firmer), and the higher output engine was more efficient and faster. In other words it should have been the base engine & suspension in this update.
My Seltos GT Turbo gets around the same mileage (MPG). Not over happy with that, thought it would be a bit better. Highway 7 Lt l/100. I just worry about parts if it breaks down. I’ve read that there is a long wait on parts, perhaps that could be a topic in reviews, how good is the after buy service.
Your reviews are why we went for the Sealion 6. We test drove the Jolion and the H6 top models and they both just felt too cheap and nasty even for the good price.
I think that if you have to go through all those menus to cancel the annoying ones (and I agree with the ones you point out Matt) it would drive me up the wall. Stop at the shop come back out and do it all again.
Hey matt, obviously you know where I work, I drove this car around well not this exact model, it was the model before it. It had a few kilometres on it. It was about 6 to 12 months old, yeah, wasn’t very good so not a big fan of these cars, I would probably go with the alternatives that you’ve just shown. Just my opinion. As always great Vids 👍
The only Havel worth buying is the H6 Hybrid. They need to do something about that horrible Havel on the grill about time they had an emblem instead of that bloody, ugly name and ditch the DCT and put a spare wheel in all their vehicles.
When i have the ability to get in that segment and still need a vehicle of that size I plan on getting I plan getting the non hybrid H6 because unlike its competitors I can see where my money is going and I get a spare wheel.
I dont mind the new front grille, not fully a fan of it(better than the new H6 who took Cadillacs DRLs) but hey. Overall while its a good car I wouldnt take over a S Cross,the boot while its the same capacity in litres the one in the Scross is way more useable as you get more height and width between the wheel wells. With that said Suzuki priced that car ridiculously high,but I digress. The new Jolion and a new to a good value proposition but with the same old niggles (no reach in the steering wheel and the poor fuel economy). one last thing,the Seltos is a better alternate to this as its in the same class, the Suzuki S Cross is also a good competitor as well.
while it doesnt have a stopper on the knob the gear youre in is indicated on the instrument cluster . Once you drive the car for a for a bit its not that difficult to live with.
@therightcar thanks for your reply, and for offering to work on rectifying your "mistakes". If you ever stop making them, then please let me know how you did it, because I never could (as well 😅).
I thought it was awesome for a $26k car while I had it as a rental, this is coming from a guy with a manual ve ss with an engine built by a well known engine builder for a V8 supercars team.
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I drove one of these for a week as a loan car, it felt just like a $45k car to me. I used to be a big brand snob but this car changed my mind, the Chinese car companies will own most of the market within 10 years.
I've been living with MY21 Jolion, here is what I find
1. People complain that they can't permanently turn off the monitoring camera in the new Jolion. I turned it off from the system, and it turned off permanently. You can use duck tape if you want if you use newer one. The new one use real dashboard buttons instead of capacitive touch, which is great.
2. There is a shortcut to change several settings. Just swipe from the border of left screen to the right. You can turn on/off heated seat, driving mode, wireless charger (ultra only), and sound settings
3. Changing the aircon is tricky. Just click any aircon-related button and the aircon setting will show up
4. Changing gear is easy. You don't have to look at the dial. Turn it left for several clicks will go to "R". Turn it right will go to either "D" or "M". If you hit "M", turn it right one more time to get "D" or vice versa.
5. Turbo lag is annoying. Just install the throttle controller, and it will cure it. Unfortunately, there is no cure for the dual-clutch confusion :(
6. Fuel economy is 9l/100km urban-traffic, and 6.5 l/100km for freeway driving. On the average, I got around 8.8/100km when refuelling.
7. The most annoying thing about this car is: no telescopic for MY21 and a capacitive touch panel. I agree that the keyless door handle is annoying as it's only available on the driver side. However, you can still open the boot since there is a button there.
8. Overall, it is great value for money (at the time of purchase). There have been no issues so far after 3 years. I still use the original parts (including the tyre and battery). I will keep it longer. Will I consider this brand again? Yes, if they offer a PHEV.
Agree with you. I bought the Jolion Lux Launch Edition in May 2021. Covered 70K KMs already. Just changed a pair of tyres. Absolutely love the car.
I own a jolion lux 21 model and going from reverse to drive is simple a quick twist flick to the left puts it in reverse then a quick flick to the right puts it into drive ,works every time ,a salesman told me this trick as I complained to him what a pain the dial change was, and this solved it.
Really like your honest reviews.Been watching a lot of them recently.
Matt's view of Halogen , the lights on but no one is home.😅
love the honesty man.
Hi! In Russia, Haval Jolion has an all-wheel drive configuration using haldex V. And thanks to this, it became the best-selling car with all-wheel drive. I have one myself. A cheap and unpretentious car with a lot of electronic bells and whistles. P.S. Translated via Google.
Hi! Wow, didn’t know such a model existed. Thanks for the intel!
The Jolion for me is great. I like the adaptive cruise in my opinion better than the Toyota Corolla. Duck tape has fixed the monitor system. Has heaps of room, can even fit a single mattress in boot with seats down. Fuel usage only slightly more than a Toyota Corolla but way bigger and more fun to drive in my opinion.
Using tape to be able to drive properly. Right.
@@mrkring1526 Screw being watched by a camera all the time!, I would be duct taping the camera as well!.
Your right about the accelerater lag when you want to take off briskly 😮
If it had a torque converter auto it would be very compelling. As it stands, if you need cheap transport buy a 2 year old one cheap, keep it to the end of the warranty, rinse and repeat.
Use a hybrid and all these transmission issues go away including the fuel efficiency. With the DCT and Turbo engine, the car fuel efficiency depends a lot on the driver. In my experience, use the car on eco mode and you will see a low fuel usage
Yes bugger all DCT,CVT, & traditional Auto Transmissions, they all have there problems & sap energy from the engine, Honda's latest Hybrid has two Motor generators, one attached to the engine & one attached to a simple single gear ratio gear box which drives the front wheels, gets around 4L per 100k in the Civic no accessory drive belts, everything on the engine is electric, it runs in series and or sudo parallel hybrid mode, either way always running on electric drive only, so smooth & instant!, & waaaay less to go wrong!, all cars should be made this way, with the option of plug in & bigger battery!.
Have had a 2021 for a few months. Petrol eco is dire but other issues less so. You can adjust most if not all safety settings, you can access some via a swipe gesture from left side of screen, and you can lower indicator volume. The camera is a stand out. Turning circle not great, seats are ok but not great for tall folks, lots of cabin space and noise is no worse than my 2008 bmw. If I had the $ I’d buy a hybrid but right now not an option, but do I regret this car, no, it does what it claims, it’s not a rally car or a luxury and I’m all good with those being how it rolls.
i have heard the fuel economy gets better over time but I guess thats why you get one of the larger fuel tanks in the segment.
How did you turn down the indicator volume? I just got a 2024 facelift jolion and can’t see anywhere to turn it down
I can’t find out how to turn the indicator volume down either. It even comes through the speakers which is very annoying.
Pony up a little bit more and get the Haval H6. GWM spent a lot more money on the H6 development especially the H6 Hybrid because it had to go against the Rav 4 Hybrid. It's a vastly better car for a little bit more.
the boot is also alot better.
For mid 20s price its not bad at all considering it would be close to comparing a 14 thousand dollar Exell 25 years ago and they were tagged as being disposable after a few years, boy were we wrong.
Hi Matt. Love your detailed and honest car reviews. May I please request a review on the Skoda Fabia Select and the updated Hyundai i30 N Line hatch. Keep up the good work.
I have a Jolion Lux 2024 just 5 weeks old. Recently ive returned home from holidays
Question for you and your followers.
While using cruise control the car decides to just to pull up for know reason at all. 4 limes this happened to me. NO other cars in sight. Just me and the road. And believe me it's frightening.
To over come this I just don't use cruise control...
While I see why you didn't like it, I do think the S grade had some merit from its independent rear suspension which IMO made it handle slightly better (despite being firmer), and the higher output engine was more efficient and faster.
In other words it should have been the base engine & suspension in this update.
His and her cup holders, good idea.
My Seltos GT Turbo gets around the same mileage (MPG). Not over happy with that, thought it would be a bit better. Highway 7 Lt l/100. I just worry about parts if it breaks down. I’ve read that there is a long wait on parts, perhaps that could be a topic in reviews, how good is the after buy service.
Aren't Kia slash Hyundai experiencing complete eng breakdown or failures
@@robertceroli3512 not that I’m aware of. Seltos Aus FB group, no mention of it either.
hybrids cost more to buy and also more to insure. so the cost savings may not turn out best.
i would keen on knowing if these functions can be easily controlled using voice instead of click the sreen and going through the manual
Safety systems cannot be disabled using voice.
This or the new MG HS you think?
Your reviews are why we went for the Sealion 6. We test drove the Jolion and the H6 top models and they both just felt too cheap and nasty even for the good price.
I think that if you have to go through all those menus to cancel the annoying ones (and I agree with the ones you point out Matt) it would drive me up the wall. Stop at the shop come back out and do it all again.
Hey matt, obviously you know where I work, I drove this car around well not this exact model, it was the model before it. It had a few kilometres on it. It was about 6 to 12 months old, yeah, wasn’t very good so not a big fan of these cars, I would probably go with the alternatives that you’ve just shown. Just my opinion.
As always great Vids 👍
The only Havel worth buying is the H6 Hybrid. They need to do something about that horrible Havel on the grill about time they had an emblem instead of that bloody, ugly name and ditch the DCT and put a spare wheel in all their vehicles.
When i have the ability to get in that segment and still need a vehicle of that size I plan on getting I plan getting the non hybrid H6 because unlike its competitors I can see where my money is going and I get a spare wheel.
My Haval Ultra has a spare tyre as well as a jack in it
They will make a on raill version. For the masses
"on raill" version, what is that?
Have the 2023 lux version for just over a year with no issues except a small wind noise coming through the drivers size window.
Sounds like you’re a happy owner!
😂😂
now it’s 23,990
Yep, makes a stronger case at that kinda money!
@@therightcar LUX is 26,990. Whats your take ? Hope its worth buying.
The badge on the front still looks like an afterthought. At least it's not blue I suppose.
I'm only into driving a manual and I'd rather not drive a computer. I guess I just got too old for this.
People needs to be used in technology in car. Like when iPhone cameout no keypad. What happen now
Easy to get used to the transmission issues
I dont mind the new front grille, not fully a fan of it(better than the new H6 who took Cadillacs DRLs) but hey. Overall while its a good car I wouldnt take over a S Cross,the boot while its the same capacity in litres the one in the Scross is way more useable as you get more height and width between the wheel wells. With that said Suzuki priced that car ridiculously high,but I digress. The new Jolion and a new to a good value proposition but with the same old niggles (no reach in the steering wheel and the poor fuel economy). one last thing,the Seltos is a better alternate to this as its in the same class, the Suzuki S Cross is also a good competitor as well.
I like the previous look, it has a unique look.
So how are you suppose to concentrate on the road with that fiddley info system. You couldn’t pay me to buy this crap.
Gear Shifters should have ‘notches’ as constantly looking down is potentially dangerous.
while it doesnt have a stopper on the knob the gear youre in is indicated on the instrument cluster . Once you drive the car for a for a bit its not that difficult to live with.
Wow My MUX gets 8.1tlrs/100kms
Like your presentations, but PLEASE try to stop repeatedly saying "as well" throughout every one of them 😮.
I will try to learn from my mistakes, and as well as that, thanks for caring... as well.
@therightcar thanks for your reply, and for offering to work on rectifying your "mistakes". If you ever stop making them, then please let me know how you did it, because I never could (as well 😅).
"As well" is cultural affectation. You may "as well" tell someone to quit saying "too."
😂
Some people can't help repeat a line, I can't help saying "like" "is it"...
I'd pick the Skoda Kamiq.
So it's a flop then. Oh well. Won't be on my shopping list I suppose
What a rubbish unliveable car.
I thought it was awesome for a $26k car while I had it as a rental, this is coming from a guy with a manual ve ss with an engine built by a well known engine builder for a V8 supercars team.
Sounds utterly crap and doesn't look great either.
I LOVE my 2022 MG ZST Excite.
I just test drove the zs. I found it really revvy and noisy when accelerating... do you find your zst noisy??
@@murrayhyde4902 Not in the least. The ZS and ZST are TOTALLY different cars!
The way the wheels are inset along with the black fenders is so ugly. No, not worth it.