I get that Melinoë was basically brainwashed by Hecate to see the gods as absolute good guys, but it's INSANELY out of touch to judge Prometheus for hating the gods.
@@Orion_Mr.Starlight The whole return of the Golden Age thing, Hades torturing shades in the underworld and Melinoe not giving a shit about mortals all feels like stuff that will have to become important later. Just beating Chronos and resetting the world to the status quo can't be it.
Ok, so, I feel Cronos will win, he'll trap all the pantheon in stasis, and what this means is that he'll cut the ties between humanity and the greek pantheon, starting the age of enlightenment and all of modern history, as turns out that the gods have actually been keeping humanity in an age of scarcity for eons, the gods Cronos froze seem to wake up, but it's actually because they're all now trapped in an age past, and the post-game would be the now-dethroned greek pantheon, fighting Cronos so they can try to make small impacts on reality. A few runs in and Olympus throws a full siege on Hades (mirroring the party on the first game), where Cronos gives the gods a glimpse into the present, the modern, secular age, revealing the true nature of his plan (self-sacrifice) and their own purgatory state as a new part of the *the Past,* and closes the story with the gods swearing vengance upon Cronos and to bring back the age of myth, setting the new status quo and allowing a cohesive post-game loop where Mel's personally happy with her new eternity hanging out with her family, and helping them beat up the old man she doesn't like.
Melinoe already experienced firsthand that the morals here are not black and white but she is too focused on rescuing her family that she can't stop to think about it.
Considering that we meet a lot of characters that were wronged by the gods (Arachne, Heracles, Odysseus, [Pan]Dora), I think the game will veer towards Melinoe becoming more skeptical of the gods. Or perhaps she'll remain naive. It would be interesting to see her ignorance turn into malevolence, could be a plot point for a Hades 3 to be made about Hades' possible second daughter Macaria.
Prometheus has a justifiable anger towards the gods since he literally had his liver eaten out by a bird everyday because he stole fire from Olympus and gave it to humans
Mythology is often created for the sake of enforcing a political or social status quo - and in the case of classical mythology, its submission to authority, represented by the gods and their judgement. In a more practical sense, the kings and emperors of the time all linking themselves to divinity in some way is the real purpose of the mythology. To our modern sensibilities, that sucks, which is why so many of our modern interpretations of the myths have the gods portrayed as evil, rather than untouchable figures of divinity. Hades isnt really an exception to this rule.
@@Lardo137 Indeed. To be boorish about it, too many in the olden days were slavish dickriders to authority as serfs were to aristocrats. In modern times, people are less palatable to abusive authority figures just because of their ranks and titles, just as Prometheus was.
in fact I hope mel start to see how much gods suck and hades house has payed the price(underground gods they just do their duty they don't make life of mortal a hell for fun)
I noticed something from the start, Olympus is against humanity, Chronos is the one that actually wants to help humanity, and Prometheus being on his side strengthens this theory, there is even dialogue in the game where the gods say they are going to punish humans after this is over, are we playing for the baddies?
@@noone12748 in fact my personal theory about penelope is she is on side of titans and ody is lying about the reason of break up. He is too afraid by Gods, she is like screw them! Penelope has two important characteristics : 1)she knows dream real(if I remember well the poem, it tell something about she was awake in reality of dreams, and it was very rare, maybe she can have lucid dreams?), and incredible weaver. weavering has power in hades, because arachne clothing have power, but maybe too much talented weaver can take place of fates?
@@noone12748 I'm glad the fandom is FINALLY realizing Chronos has a point. Everyone from Heracles to Ariadne to Dora to Orpheus to Sisyphus to Prometheus all have bones to pick with the gods, and theyre all completely justified.
Ah of course, why didn't I consider this a possibility? If we're gonna fight the granddaddy of titans who can manipulate time, then it's not out of the question to fight one who can predict your every move.
Is no one going to talk about how just absolutely incredible the music is? Especially coupled with the fight and the subject matter. It's like this majestic, fast-paced march forward, almost as if to symbolize Prometheus' self-destructive march of vengeance against the gods. As the Titan of Foresight, he probably knows that he will lose, just like he probably knew about his punishment, but he still chooses to do what he is doing regardless, in both cases. It's a relentless, almost obsessive march, ever forward, ever against his own fate, because that's what he feels he must do. That's what I hear in this music. That struggle against one's own fate, even with the knowledge of the outcome not being favorable - it ironically feels very similar to the human, mortal condition. And he is, in a way, the true patron of mortals in the greek mythos.
wonderfully put! you've put into words the reason why im starting to love prometheus. i really hope we get more story and depth from him in later updates.
With how much people are commenting on how justified Prometheus is in siding against the gods, I’m surprised to see how little they are talking about how he calls Meli “agent of change” now there are too many ways to interpret that. Personally I always take it more of him approving of the change she brings, there are worse nicknames to use but he chose one that implies she will cause the change, mind you change also implies neither the golden age or the age of gods, since both are in flux. Like isn’t it entirely possible Prometheus is not rebelling but instead fighting Mel to make her stronger, like Hecate? Also of note for those saying chronos isn’t terrible, Odysseus is a mortal with more reason then most to hate the gods, Chronos litteraly as the first move captured the most true neutral god there is, In Greek Myth Hades is generally agreeable. And then he opened the gates to the afterlife just to have an army, while the Greek gods are asses who need to be taken down a peg, Chronos at worst is making empty promises so he has an army for revenge, or he wants to make a world where there is no night, death, dreams, or sleep. Aka entropy, or the cession of anything change. Also worth nothing that Prometheus was there for the original golden age and categorically wasn’t for it, I’d not put it past him to be in it just for the revenge, but I don’t think he actually agrees with chronos.
Agreed, based on the pieces of info we keep finding about Prometheus even Chronos is being denied some information from Prometheus' foresight. And with him knowing he was going to be defeated there eventually... Well, it raises the question about what game Prometheus is truly playing here. Because either he doesn't care about him and Chronos being stopped just for the opportunity to get some limited vengeance on the gods, or he has some entirely different goal. I bet on the latter. Besides the pain his punishment caused him it probably gave him more than enough time to come up with some kind of plan as well.
You know, it's kind of funny how there's now two Titans who are being super cryptic about what they want and how Melinoe fits into their plan, and are also pyromancers (Prometheus and Hecate). I wonder if they're siblings.
If the theory that "dora" is "pandora" is correct, that makes me curious if were gonna see his brother epimetheus any time, considering he was pandora's husband.
I hope we can actually help Prometheus. He was always someone I considered as a decent Titan that helped humanity. Seeing him as a henchman to Chronos is sad to me, so here's hoping we can somehow help him
Seriously this is what I’m thinking, why are we fighting the good guys? Mel is clearly a brainwashed soldier who wants revenge so her thinking is understandable Still I’m certain there’s definitely going to be an “are we the baddies” moment with Mel
Am I the only one who finds the bosses even harder after this update, Prometheus is hard ofc but even Eris and Polyphemus are harder, and Kronos (chronos?) is notably faster. Time to relearn these fights.
I just beat 32 fear on the surface two weeks ago, and it has been beating my ass this update. I lost a death defiance to Polyphemus during an otherwise stellar run. For some reason, Charybdis takes me forever and always chews through a good chunk of my health. I died to Eris at 0 fear for the first time in months. And I beat Polyphemus my first try, but HOLY SHIT did memorization section throw me off my game. I haven't run the Underworld since this update dropped, but I apparently never got the surface to the same level of mastery.
OK, fun facts time. Kronus (King of the Titans, who inherited Authority over the earth and agriculture hence the Scythe) and Chronos (Primordial of time, older than even gaia, let alone the titans) used to be two different figures, but a long time ago - by the end of the greek era actually, this is not a modern retelling problem - they were united into a single character, like we see in Hades, Percy Jackson and so many others. Curiously, the romans kinda forgotten Chronos althogeter , giving back Saturnus Authority over agriculture but not bringing up the Authority over time at all. The only media to bring up their difference are SMT and Smite, the but the former gave Saturnus Fire powers, even if by description he is still has the agriculture Authority.
Yes! If you read the details of the update they made Chronos, Cerberus and Charybdis I believe faster, like there's less time in between phases. Eris too they switched her so she doesn't stand in the flames, and I don'rlt remember reading about another change but she does move so fast now. I can barely hit her! Buuut I do find it more easy to avoid her... So idk. Also I haven't seen anything about this in the update but I feel like some regular foes, mini boss or even boss attacks hit a bit harder -even in godmode!-.
Prometheus keeps calling Melinoe an "agent of change". Wonder what change she will bring and probably it is far broader than just beating Chronos for good and rescuing her family.
Honestly, if Prometheus of all people is on Chronos's side then that HAS to be a wake up call to Melinoe eventually. The more she leaens about him, the more obvious it will be that the Olympians don't deserve her loyalty or support.
Genuine, honest lore question: If Prometheus is on Chronos' side, what did Chronos need the Fates for? Is Prometheus' future-sight more limited than the Fates? Or is it that Prometheus can only see the future while the Fates are free to "weave" (i.e. alter) it?
chronos needed the fates so that they would no longer be able to make him quite literally fated to lose, they literally thread destiny into time, making the future pre-determined and free will dubious at best. prometheus has an unknown degree of foresight over future outcomes, he can see what is to come while the fates orchestrate what is to come.
I will say - the great benefit of this fight is that by the time you reach it, you already got some game knowledge to help along and a decent chunk of completion for the game. Otherwise, this fight would be much harder. I'm willing to argue Prometheus is a harder boss than Chronos. Prometheus is much faster than Chronos and he gives you fewer opportunities to deal damage without risking to lose health.
Melinoe still feels very weak compared to zag. Something about having a 3rd ability slows combat down so much. Like I have to do 2x more work to setup high dps. First gotta cast a circle so enemies dont hit me/move before I charge. Then hope the circle hit detection works to get the bonus damage for hitting enemies in its radius with an attack. Finally you get to do max dmg for maybe one attack or 2 casts, and repeat the whole process. It does not feel fast even with sprinting. Also the sprint mechanic just adds more worthless boons that are not easy to actually use in combat let alone remember what they do/how they activate/if they drain mana.
Now the question is what the heck is the next area gonna look like ? It will probably be a "mini" one like every final boss but what's between the top of olympus and.. well the top of olympus ? (And weird that we haven't seen the god of war during the war, i hope he is an npc and not a fight)
I don’t know he’s still fighting gods, and considering this is Prometheus we’re talking about, he probably gives more of a shit about humanity than them.
While I agree with it being justified I dont agree with how he's going with it. The irony that hatred can be a flame that consumes him and could seal his fate just like before if he doesn't douse the flame with rationality and calmness, despite how justifiable that anger is. Because when Chronos most likely betrays him for siding with the olympians... he will be nothing left but an empty shell of his former self forced to contemplate how easily he was manipulated... then he will be truly nothing, because wouldn't the Titan of Foresight have foreseen it coming? No, because he let the smoke of his burning hatred and anger blind him to this possible inevitability, all because he focused his foresight only on the destruction of the gods but no further to what Chronos might if not will do to him.
It could be other reasons for wrath. Prometheus is aware of something we are not… this much we know… it could well be his betrayal might be in the script, and defeat at melenoe’s hand are set factors, but he is still trying to rig the game in melenoe’s favour. A key thing is the telegraphs… if he were trying to best you without reservations and go all out… he would not be giving you a lead in… you would just be struck… instead… he shows you “hey… if you stand there, will hit you. Move.” He also describes her as an agent of change… change is not good or bad necessarily, but I could see Prometheus seeing many ways that the gods and melenoe’s actions might cause things to become far worse. Chronos needs to be defeated… but currently melenoe’s on a quest to kill him… and likely fuck up everything by accident. I don’t know what’s the game at play… but I have a feeling what awaits us at the top of Olympus is going to be a problem that is going to flip the script for us… it could be a good twist… or it could be a bad one. Hard to know considering I am probably not sure where hades 2 plans on going.
@@wiktorma1679 I was both relieved and scared when I realized he doesn't have a second phase. That was when it sunk in that he's not the final surface boss. Something else will come after him, and that something will be worse. And I'm gonna have to beat up Prometheus every time to get to it.
@@mrmacju1530 Theseus and Asterius were pretty challenging at first, but as time passed players came up with such broken builds that they managed to defeat them in 20 seconds.
@@thesenate8268 True, it's just a matter of learning. Both Eris and Chronos seemed almost insurmountable to me as well, but once you learn their movesets they get a lot easier.
Obviously I’m not going to tell the developers how to make their games, but if it had been me, I would’ve saved Mount Olympus as the setting for Hades 3, and given the players the option to play Zag or Mel while I’m at it. I mean Zag fought so hard to escape from the Underworld in the first game - he deserved a chance to see it too
Yeah I need to go play the new update later today or when I have the time Anyways oh look it's ben starr (rising star in my opinion do you know him because I final fantasy 16 and later Warframe 1999)
Aha! So my game *is* bugged! Actually seeing the flames hit after the memory game would switch that from nigh impossible to straightforward, and I would have probably killed him both times I've seen him:/
looks amazing in all the areas, and then you have . . . Hestia that looks horrendous and not even is young has the myths (the youngest and oldest at the same time)
I'm not sure I'm a fan of the new artstyle. Hades 1 felt more detailed, this feels more desolate. Not sure if by design or not but aesthetically I prefer Hades 1
Jen has so many more chars to draw so she might be holding back for the sake of time? But also remember it's still a beta. The games art could look different when it comes out.
ill says what have to be said - music for this fight is trash, it's bad everything about it, it doesn't fit boss - rebellious fire, it's just flat i just listened to it and i can't remember any single note. disappointed.
@@--InsertNameHere-- i stated why it's terrible in every way it doesn't fit character doesn't fit fight, forgettable af, and what's your statement? that you like insipid melody? that's fine but don't need to protect this nothing burger, after coral crown it's trash it's some elite room theme not for boss.
"COME TO ME AETOS"
Hahaha nice
They hate us 'cause they Aetos.
Making friends with the eagle that was assigned with punishing him is one hell of a power move.
Tbf, the eagle just doing his(?) job, no personal feeling. Seems they bonding after all those time
I mean... He's the one who feeds it.
We can say Sisyphus did something similar in first Hades
Right? Mayne bribed him with a Onion? Lol
@@awesometape2891 Bouldy was foreshadowing?!
I get that Melinoë was basically brainwashed by Hecate to see the gods as absolute good guys, but it's INSANELY out of touch to judge Prometheus for hating the gods.
100% this game is gonna have a "are we the baddies?" moment.
Even Hecate is like "Selene and I are both Titaness lest you forget Melinoe"
Well this IS a greek work and Melinoë having too big a grudge against Chronos to see why someone would side with him is a good fatal flaw
@@Orion_Mr.Starlight The whole return of the Golden Age thing, Hades torturing shades in the underworld and Melinoe not giving a shit about mortals all feels like stuff that will have to become important later.
Just beating Chronos and resetting the world to the status quo can't be it.
Ok, so, I feel Cronos will win, he'll trap all the pantheon in stasis, and what this means is that he'll cut the ties between humanity and the greek pantheon, starting the age of enlightenment and all of modern history, as turns out that the gods have actually been keeping humanity in an age of scarcity for eons, the gods Cronos froze seem to wake up, but it's actually because they're all now trapped in an age past, and the post-game would be the now-dethroned greek pantheon, fighting Cronos so they can try to make small impacts on reality. A few runs in and Olympus throws a full siege on Hades (mirroring the party on the first game), where Cronos gives the gods a glimpse into the present, the modern, secular age, revealing the true nature of his plan (self-sacrifice) and their own purgatory state as a new part of the *the Past,* and closes the story with the gods swearing vengance upon Cronos and to bring back the age of myth, setting the new status quo and allowing a cohesive post-game loop where Mel's personally happy with her new eternity hanging out with her family, and helping them beat up the old man she doesn't like.
I hope Melinoe slowly starts to understand Prometheus’s situation and has a more nuanced view of her family because of it
Melinoe already experienced firsthand that the morals here are not black and white but she is too focused on rescuing her family that she can't stop to think about it.
Considering that we meet a lot of characters that were wronged by the gods (Arachne, Heracles, Odysseus, [Pan]Dora), I think the game will veer towards Melinoe becoming more skeptical of the gods. Or perhaps she'll remain naive. It would be interesting to see her ignorance turn into malevolence, could be a plot point for a Hades 3 to be made about Hades' possible second daughter Macaria.
Prometheus has a justifiable anger towards the gods since he literally had his liver eaten out by a bird everyday because he stole fire from Olympus and gave it to humans
Mythology is often created for the sake of enforcing a political or social status quo - and in the case of classical mythology, its submission to authority, represented by the gods and their judgement. In a more practical sense, the kings and emperors of the time all linking themselves to divinity in some way is the real purpose of the mythology.
To our modern sensibilities, that sucks, which is why so many of our modern interpretations of the myths have the gods portrayed as evil, rather than untouchable figures of divinity. Hades isnt really an exception to this rule.
A whole bunch of the gods are also like "oh, he's against us? yeah understandable"
@@Lardo137 Indeed. To be boorish about it, too many in the olden days were slavish dickriders to authority as serfs were to aristocrats. In modern times, people are less palatable to abusive authority figures just because of their ranks and titles, just as Prometheus was.
i hope when the game is complete you can call heracles for this fight (he's the one who ended prometheus's punishment with Zeus's permission)
Heracles killed the eagle that was eating prometheus's liver. I'm hoping the game would match that lore
Ngl Prometheus betrayal is pretty justifiable I mean he was punished for doing the right thing
in fact I hope mel start to see how much gods suck and hades house has payed the price(underground gods they just do their duty they don't make life of mortal a hell for fun)
@Sifya yep the Olympians are assholes
I noticed something from the start, Olympus is against humanity, Chronos is the one that actually wants to help humanity, and Prometheus being on his side strengthens this theory, there is even dialogue in the game where the gods say they are going to punish humans after this is over, are we playing for the baddies?
@@noone12748 in fact my personal theory about penelope is she is on side of titans and ody is lying about the reason of break up. He is too afraid by Gods, she is like screw them! Penelope has two important characteristics : 1)she knows dream real(if I remember well the poem, it tell something about she was awake in reality of dreams, and it was very rare, maybe she can have lucid dreams?), and incredible weaver.
weavering has power in hades, because arachne clothing have power, but maybe too much talented
weaver can take place of fates?
@@noone12748 I'm glad the fandom is FINALLY realizing Chronos has a point. Everyone from Heracles to Ariadne to Dora to Orpheus to Sisyphus to Prometheus all have bones to pick with the gods, and theyre all completely justified.
Ah of course, why didn't I consider this a possibility? If we're gonna fight the granddaddy of titans who can manipulate time, then it's not out of the question to fight one who can predict your every move.
i thought that was zagreus just daddy-fied for a minute honestly.... can't wait to play this game again
I am surprised chronos accepted his help
@@daeity1same, though I really should’ve taken the eagle as a sign of who it actually was
Mel: Wait, why are we fighting you? You're one the good guys
Prometheus: You're Gods
Mel: Oh right
Is no one going to talk about how just absolutely incredible the music is? Especially coupled with the fight and the subject matter. It's like this majestic, fast-paced march forward, almost as if to symbolize Prometheus' self-destructive march of vengeance against the gods. As the Titan of Foresight, he probably knows that he will lose, just like he probably knew about his punishment, but he still chooses to do what he is doing regardless, in both cases. It's a relentless, almost obsessive march, ever forward, ever against his own fate, because that's what he feels he must do. That's what I hear in this music.
That struggle against one's own fate, even with the knowledge of the outcome not being favorable - it ironically feels very similar to the human, mortal condition. And he is, in a way, the true patron of mortals in the greek mythos.
wonderfully put! you've put into words the reason why im starting to love prometheus. i really hope we get more story and depth from him in later updates.
When you meet Prometheus you realize that you are no longer the main character
With how much people are commenting on how justified Prometheus is in siding against the gods, I’m surprised to see how little they are talking about how he calls Meli “agent of change” now there are too many ways to interpret that. Personally I always take it more of him approving of the change she brings, there are worse nicknames to use but he chose one that implies she will cause the change, mind you change also implies neither the golden age or the age of gods, since both are in flux.
Like isn’t it entirely possible Prometheus is not rebelling but instead fighting Mel to make her stronger, like Hecate?
Also of note for those saying chronos isn’t terrible, Odysseus is a mortal with more reason then most to hate the gods, Chronos litteraly as the first move captured the most true neutral god there is, In Greek Myth Hades is generally agreeable. And then he opened the gates to the afterlife just to have an army, while the Greek gods are asses who need to be taken down a peg, Chronos at worst is making empty promises so he has an army for revenge, or he wants to make a world where there is no night, death, dreams, or sleep. Aka entropy, or the cession of anything change. Also worth nothing that Prometheus was there for the original golden age and categorically wasn’t for it, I’d not put it past him to be in it just for the revenge, but I don’t think he actually agrees with chronos.
Agreed, based on the pieces of info we keep finding about Prometheus even Chronos is being denied some information from Prometheus' foresight. And with him knowing he was going to be defeated there eventually... Well, it raises the question about what game Prometheus is truly playing here. Because either he doesn't care about him and Chronos being stopped just for the opportunity to get some limited vengeance on the gods, or he has some entirely different goal.
I bet on the latter. Besides the pain his punishment caused him it probably gave him more than enough time to come up with some kind of plan as well.
You know, it's kind of funny how there's now two Titans who are being super cryptic about what they want and how Melinoe fits into their plan, and are also pyromancers (Prometheus and Hecate). I wonder if they're siblings.
If the theory that "dora" is "pandora" is correct, that makes me curious if were gonna see his brother epimetheus any time, considering he was pandora's husband.
It's basically confirmed at this point, she has dialogue mentioning how Prometheus's name is weirdly familiar to her
Wait a sec, is that Ben Starr? Prometheus sounds suspiciously like Clive xD
Yep, it's Ben Starr sounding amazing as ever!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice
Yup, it's the man himself
From Final Fantasy 16?
That Ben Starr who become VA for Prometheus.
I was beating his face until his second streak of flame walls. Goddamn, gotta remember that next time.
I hope we can actually help Prometheus. He was always someone I considered as a decent Titan that helped humanity.
Seeing him as a henchman to Chronos is sad to me, so here's hoping we can somehow help him
He has his own agenda that will be revealed as implied by the fact that he wouldn’t tell Chronos his foresight.
"What I know you can do" GOES SO FUCKING HARDFF
Cant wait for more titans mann
I love this game like Dionysius on wine
Ben Starr really got some mad recognition after his role as Clive in FF16.
IKR? Seems like he’s in everything nowadays.
And I 100% approve
I feel like humans should be fighting alongside the titans since Prometheus is on their side. I would certainly feel indebted to the guy.
Seriously this is what I’m thinking, why are we fighting the good guys?
Mel is clearly a brainwashed soldier who wants revenge so her thinking is understandable
Still I’m certain there’s definitely going to be an “are we the baddies” moment with Mel
I got to olympus and beat this guy one try 1 simply because i spent 90% of the fight in dark side and he couldn't do sh*t.
how do you make it last that long?
@@deatheater6222 read the boons and see what boost the effect
“Show me what I know you can do” is actually such a raw line 😂
beat this boss first try at 5 am after a sleepless night and the huge adrenaline rush kept me awake longer than any caffeine ever could
I don't care how difficult the fight is as long as he keeps talking in that sexy voice
That huge AOE move which relies on memory is brutal.
Y’know, if the TITAN PROMETHEUS wasn’t the big dangerous boss that was giving all of the gods trouble,
I’m scared of what we’ll find at the top.
It might be another Titan, like Hyperion or something
Though it might be boring to have two Titan bosses in a row
I'm calling it now - the big dangerous boss is going to be Typhon!
I would like to think
That it’s Zagreius at the top that would be so cool
@@Lionstar16 typhoon would make a lot of sense actually!!!
@ as much as I’d love a zagreus fight, I’m pretty sure chronos still has him frozen in time.
If this is who they have for Prometheus, one must wonder if they'll have someone like the goddess Astrea on the side of Kronos as well
Am I the only one who finds the bosses even harder after this update, Prometheus is hard ofc but even Eris and Polyphemus are harder, and Kronos (chronos?) is notably faster. Time to relearn these fights.
Yeah seems they buffed a few (or im just hella rusty). Tbh i haven't really played since May so i know there were quite a few changes
@@CGInferno no they’re def buffed, I’ve picked up the game again in the last few weeks but this difficulty spiked with this update.
I just beat 32 fear on the surface two weeks ago, and it has been beating my ass this update. I lost a death defiance to Polyphemus during an otherwise stellar run. For some reason, Charybdis takes me forever and always chews through a good chunk of my health. I died to Eris at 0 fear for the first time in months. And I beat Polyphemus my first try, but HOLY SHIT did memorization section throw me off my game.
I haven't run the Underworld since this update dropped, but I apparently never got the surface to the same level of mastery.
OK, fun facts time. Kronus (King of the Titans, who inherited Authority over the earth and agriculture hence the Scythe) and Chronos (Primordial of time, older than even gaia, let alone the titans) used to be two different figures, but a long time ago - by the end of the greek era actually, this is not a modern retelling problem - they were united into a single character, like we see in Hades, Percy Jackson and so many others. Curiously, the romans kinda forgotten Chronos althogeter , giving back Saturnus Authority over agriculture but not bringing up the Authority over time at all. The only media to bring up their difference are SMT and Smite, the but the former gave Saturnus Fire powers, even if by description he is still has the agriculture Authority.
Yes! If you read the details of the update they made Chronos, Cerberus and Charybdis I believe faster, like there's less time in between phases. Eris too they switched her so she doesn't stand in the flames, and I don'rlt remember reading about another change but she does move so fast now. I can barely hit her! Buuut I do find it more easy to avoid her... So idk. Also I haven't seen anything about this in the update but I feel like some regular foes, mini boss or even boss attacks hit a bit harder -even in godmode!-.
By the Flames!
Bro starts his sentence with: I know . . .
> Accept the truth
NOOOOO CLIVE WHY
Because both fight against God?
Man's fighting more gods with fire.
Hollos out your noble name-
Wrong one, sorry
1:12 did he just ORA-ORA'd to launch those fireball attacks?
Indeed
"suffer as I did" PM SLEEPER AGENT ACTIVATED
Glory to Project Moon.
This is this and that is that
Prometheus have tame the eagle!
Prometheus keeps calling Melinoe an "agent of change".
Wonder what change she will bring and probably it is far broader than just beating Chronos for good and rescuing her family.
Honestly, if Prometheus of all people is on Chronos's side then that HAS to be a wake up call to Melinoe eventually. The more she leaens about him, the more obvious it will be that the Olympians don't deserve her loyalty or support.
he's so anime i fkn love it
MMM BEN STARR MMM
Genuine, honest lore question: If Prometheus is on Chronos' side, what did Chronos need the Fates for? Is Prometheus' future-sight more limited than the Fates? Or is it that Prometheus can only see the future while the Fates are free to "weave" (i.e. alter) it?
chronos needed the fates so that they would no longer be able to make him quite literally fated to lose, they literally thread destiny into time, making the future pre-determined and free will dubious at best. prometheus has an unknown degree of foresight over future outcomes, he can see what is to come while the fates orchestrate what is to come.
Oh he’s perfect 💙✨
Ere stands Prometheus, the one who betrayed his gods by cursing them to their entire enterprise.
Prometheus! Accept the truth!!
Ben goes from Epimetheus to Prometheus.
I will say - the great benefit of this fight is that by the time you reach it, you already got some game knowledge to help along and a decent chunk of completion for the game. Otherwise, this fight would be much harder. I'm willing to argue Prometheus is a harder boss than Chronos. Prometheus is much faster than Chronos and he gives you fewer opportunities to deal damage without risking to lose health.
Why does he sound so much like Zagreus?
Ben Starr putting in work
I’m surprised Prometheus becomes a boss but I guess his punishment took a toll on him
1000s, potentially millions of years of unprocessed trauma and agony will definitely do that to ya
I was playing this and when I saw the strafeing move, I tired dodging it. Then it kept going and I was like "fuck it's the maven memory game"
Melinoe still feels very weak compared to zag. Something about having a 3rd ability slows combat down so much. Like I have to do 2x more work to setup high dps. First gotta cast a circle so enemies dont hit me/move before I charge. Then hope the circle hit detection works to get the bonus damage for hitting enemies in its radius with an attack. Finally you get to do max dmg for maybe one attack or 2 casts, and repeat the whole process. It does not feel fast even with sprinting. Also the sprint mechanic just adds more worthless boons that are not easy to actually use in combat let alone remember what they do/how they activate/if they drain mana.
Isn't it difficult to remember the pattern of the banded ranged attacks when Prometheus comes looking down from on high? Up to five times.
Now the question is what the heck is the next area gonna look like ? It will probably be a "mini" one like every final boss but what's between the top of olympus and.. well the top of olympus ? (And weird that we haven't seen the god of war during the war, i hope he is an npc and not a fight)
I would imagine it's the Palace of Zeus. I've no reason to think it'll be small.
WHYS HE SO HOT
Bro thats a good run. 240 damage per regular attack is wild ;-;
No way they added hawk to a game
She reminds me of Oralech from Pyre so much: bitternes, hatred, old betrayal, etc
Clive, really?! How low have you fallen!
I don’t know he’s still fighting gods, and considering this is Prometheus we’re talking about, he probably gives more of a shit about humanity than them.
Imagine hestias boon heals the guy
Why is he kinda???
Because this is Hades.
Being voiced by Ben Starr also helps.
Anyone else see him and think he was Zagreus?
Damn this game looks so good is it worth buying now?
Honestly yeah. I had a blast playing it when it first came out in Early access
always has been, frfr
what is that alternate death defiance thing he has?
His voice is... mesmerizing... ❤🥴
What’s the trick to dodging the flame of Olympus attack?
Can we pleaaaase date him
This isnt the music that plays for me. Bug?
Every boss has 2 different songs that play when you fight them...
When will this be available for iPhone ?
While I agree with it being justified I dont agree with how he's going with it. The irony that hatred can be a flame that consumes him and could seal his fate just like before if he doesn't douse the flame with rationality and calmness, despite how justifiable that anger is. Because when Chronos most likely betrays him for siding with the olympians... he will be nothing left but an empty shell of his former self forced to contemplate how easily he was manipulated... then he will be truly nothing, because wouldn't the Titan of Foresight have foreseen it coming? No, because he let the smoke of his burning hatred and anger blind him to this possible inevitability, all because he focused his foresight only on the destruction of the gods but no further to what Chronos might if not will do to him.
It could be other reasons for wrath. Prometheus is aware of something we are not… this much we know… it could well be his betrayal might be in the script, and defeat at melenoe’s hand are set factors, but he is still trying to rig the game in melenoe’s favour. A key thing is the telegraphs… if he were trying to best you without reservations and go all out… he would not be giving you a lead in… you would just be struck… instead… he shows you “hey… if you stand there, will hit you. Move.” He also describes her as an agent of change… change is not good or bad necessarily, but I could see Prometheus seeing many ways that the gods and melenoe’s actions might cause things to become far worse. Chronos needs to be defeated… but currently melenoe’s on a quest to kill him… and likely fuck up everything by accident.
I don’t know what’s the game at play… but I have a feeling what awaits us at the top of Olympus is going to be a problem that is going to flip the script for us… it could be a good twist… or it could be a bad one. Hard to know considering I am probably not sure where hades 2 plans on going.
Are you high? Who cares about the Oympians gods? 😂
beat it on first try but i think it is a pretty hard boss
I barely did this and was like: "please don't have a second phase" Olympus in general is a hard region, probably hardest in Hades games so far
@@wiktorma1679 I was both relieved and scared when I realized he doesn't have a second phase. That was when it sunk in that he's not the final surface boss. Something else will come after him, and that something will be worse. And I'm gonna have to beat up Prometheus every time to get to it.
@@mrmacju1530 Theseus and Asterius were pretty challenging at first, but as time passed players came up with such broken builds that they managed to defeat them in 20 seconds.
@@thesenate8268 True, it's just a matter of learning. Both Eris and Chronos seemed almost insurmountable to me as well, but once you learn their movesets they get a lot easier.
Is this the final part of the game? Or there are still doing somethin?
There will be more added. Its the games first major early access update
Obviously I’m not going to tell the developers how to make their games, but if it had been me, I would’ve saved Mount Olympus as the setting for Hades 3, and given the players the option to play Zag or Mel while I’m at it. I mean Zag fought so hard to escape from the Underworld in the first game - he deserved a chance to see it too
For all we (and even Supergiant Games) know, this might be the only sequel they do.
game got so much harder I couldn't beat 21 fear 😭 had to turn off vow of fury to get to prometheus
Yeah I need to go play the new update later today or when I have the time
Anyways oh look it's ben starr (rising star in my opinion do you know him because I final fantasy 16 and later Warframe 1999)
Aha! So my game *is* bugged! Actually seeing the flames hit after the memory game would switch that from nigh impossible to straightforward, and I would have probably killed him both times I've seen him:/
Already??
He seem really weak
He's not, trust me. His aggression is on pair with extreme measures Hades and sometimes stronger
I think he has more hp than chronos and his attacks deal good damage
looks amazing in all the areas, and then you have . . . Hestia that looks horrendous and not even is young has the myths (the youngest and oldest at the same time)
I'm not sure I'm a fan of the new artstyle. Hades 1 felt more detailed, this feels more desolate. Not sure if by design or not but aesthetically I prefer Hades 1
Jen has so many more chars to draw so she might be holding back for the sake of time? But also remember it's still a beta. The games art could look different when it comes out.
Yeah I think it's mostly just because the game is still in beta, I'm sure everything will get some slight polishing before release
Nah. This fight looks too slow and easy
ill says what have to be said - music for this fight is trash, it's bad everything about it, it doesn't fit boss - rebellious fire, it's just flat i just listened to it and i can't remember any single note. disappointed.
The hell are you talking about? It's easily one of the best songs in the game.
@@--InsertNameHere-- i stated why it's terrible in every way it doesn't fit character doesn't fit fight, forgettable af, and what's your statement? that you like insipid melody? that's fine but don't need to protect this nothing burger, after coral crown it's trash it's some elite room theme not for boss.