Supercharged Mazda MX-5 (Miata) MK2 vs New Porsche Boxster track battle
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2014
- Part 2 of our feature on whether it's possible to turn a 16-year-old Mazda MX-5 in to a Porsche Boxster beater. Can it be done?
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4:42 "LOADS OF GRIP" *he says whilst counter steering all over the place*
Am I the only one who thinks the guy driving the Miata is hanging it out way too much? Oversteer looks cool, but it isn't fast.
I was thinking the same
totally
I employ you to RUclips Koenigsegg test driver miata and watch him floor his miata around the Nurburgering.
its an mx5 not a miata
beshjs same car
Professional driver and he's drifting the corners smh
"Professional" driver not wearing a helmet. Seriously smh.
***** it's an mx5, it's too slow to even crash
The AE86 of Mt. Akina says the idiot with AE86 in his name.
The AE86 of Mt. Akina my mums one would boost off that porsche its 2006 mazda roadster 2 litre fuel injected twin can and has 800 HP
+geoff "resident" racing driver not "professional" racing driver.
Im i the only one who thinks the guy is talking too much and not actually concentrated on driving???
you're not the only one
+InBoostWeTrust7MGTE It seemed to me that he, for lack of a better term "sandbagged" the lap in the miata.
The comments about the braking, or the perceived lack of braking made it seem that he maybe blew it on purpose.
Yeah, it is called "sand bagging" Purposely lifting, or not braking hard enough because you've made prejudgements about the brakes.
He even made a statement (starting at 5:20) to the fact that he didn't trust, or think the brakes were as good as the boxter, He (imo) may not have known to what extent the brake upgrade was, or maybe just under estimated the braking power. I've taken courses at Bondurant, and Frank Hawley. I do know something about fast driving, mainly because I DO IT. Not just sit and throw insults when My ass gets chapped over an internet comment. Come back with some numbers then we can talk. Or keep on being twelve years old and living in your moms basement playing NFS and thinking that it makes you qualified to comment to grown ups.
And I'm sorry if "Sand bagging" was taken as meaning "Cheating" in this instance.
I meant it as he may have been...lets say worried, about maybe putting the car into the gravel, or maybe even into a barrier. It is a co-workers vehicle after all. So I was thinking maybe he lifted prematurely, or drove more conservatively than he would in the more proven platform (boxter).
+InBoostWeTrust7MGTE I enjoyed his commentary comparing the cars plus and minus while driving each.
Big difference is the tire widths. The Porsche is running 235x45r18 compared to the 195x45r15 on the MX5. There is 15% more rubber on the road for the Porsche, so no surprises that it was more stable and faster through the corners. I think the MX5 looked like more fun though!
How did you come up with that 15%? The width alone is over than 20% more than that of the Mazda tires.
We both are 8 years too late but the miata tire size chosen is not a good size for track driving. Its usually a 205 width for miatas that want to see track time and road use. Anything smaller is usually for being cheap or drifting as we saw.
Putting to the side that its a common practice to make one product look bad to make another product look better than it actually is, the miata driver was driving really bad. Regarding the driver, if you know you have less grip, obviously you match your speed to the tire's limits instead of drifting each corner each time thinking itll grip better next time. He did it so many times that its no wonder he had a slower time.
If he actually slowed down to prevent traction loss, he would have actually reduced his time a few seconds too. Im very confident in that.
@@jrod1577 Yeap, can confirm. I use my Miata as a daily but I usually go for track days too. I was using 195 tyres for quite some time. When I finally had the budget and bought new wheels I had to go for 205 width tyres and the difference is huge. I was thinking that it's just one step up from 195 so it's not a big upgrade. But my NB loves the 205 tyre width. Seriously, I regret spending money on other modifications and not going earlier for wheels and tyres. My dad is like "young and dumb, you didn't want to upgrade the only thing that touches the asphalt on a track day car, you preferred center console delete and a short shifter"😂
rather than a 2,5 sekond loss to the Boxster, look at it as a 7 second gain over stock. That must be satisfying in itself.
10 second gain*
Edit nvm I realised it was 1:23 not 1:26
Satisfying yes but at a cost when you could have that same feeling but have a decent car like a SLK ok or BMW Z4 or even an older Porsche Boxster for the same amount of money they spent and tuned MX5
@@ashleynew5499 show me that BMW Z4 for 5k
@@ashleynew5499 The Z4 and SLK are both significantly heavier than the MX5. They would have no chance on track
2 years late but the cars mentioned are significantly heavier and significantly more expensive to maintain vs the miata. On top of that, they would never feel as sporty as the miata because the weight could never be dropped to miata levels.
They would be more comfortable on a road trip though.
For the love of God, that thing was on ice, what do you expect with aggressive street tread 195's with nearly 200hp. Specs run 205 and have about 120-130 hp. Should have saved a couple bucks on the happy meal, grabbed a cheaper clutch and got some 205 dot semi Slick take offs. Or upped the budget by a grand and got 15x8 6ul's, take off 225 Nt01's or R888 (in place of the slicks I just mentioned) and the 949 sway bar kit.
That Porsche has 265's in the rear and 235's up front. Making up a total of 39.34 inches of rubber just under 10 inches more then the Miata's 30. Sure it weighs more, has another 50 hp but it also has on board traction and stability control systems.
I'd like to see that Miata with some more rubber and properly tuned sway bars. That would make that for a very viable weapon.
OMG that "Race" driver. His driving style is so jerky and erratic. He could easily get better lap times by just changing his attack on the steering wheel to get a smoother motion.
All the oversteer! Ugh!
Po 66 what are you talking about: he was clearly doing the warm up lap, and then changed his watch, and started the timed lap. All in one cut! :D
He even said you have to drive it like a historic racecar. If you've ever seen someone pushing an older car his driving was definitely not as jerky.
Geez this guys loses a lot of speed by drifting in the corners, next time get a real driver and we would see a better report.
Probey 76227 gripping would had made it slower because braking and gripping would put more pressure on the tires
I actually don’t know anything about cars
This guy is not a smooth driver.
He lost a lot of time in the mx5 by over driving it.
Miata is a momentum car, if he had not slid the car so much I think it would have been much closer. Perhaps even faster. Spend another five grand and it would dust the Porsche for 60 k less.
@@paulfretz9486 Momentum car means you need to drift more than high power car.
@@largelampard3721 tf u hear that from?
@@recklessrickey9513 My timer.
Pretty cool result... no wonder it's the best! It's number one! It's number one! It's the best! IT'S THE BEST!!
I see you, regular car reviews reference.
You need a cookie.
Headlights go up, head lights go down..... Head lights go up.... head lights go down... Up... down... up... down... up down, up down, up down..... updownupdownupdownupdownupdown.....
4:54- TRACK DAY BRO
BRO TRACK DAY BRO
BRO GOING TO TRACK DAY
LETS GO TO TRACK DAY BRO
5 SETS OF TYRES BRO
YOKOHAMA BRO
HOOSIERS GOT SOME HOSIERS FOR THE TRACK DAY BRO
BRO YOU COMIN BRO
CONES
GONNA TARE IT UP
LEFT FOOT BRAKING BRO
BRO COME AND GET A ROLL BAR
LETS-Lets kiss.
It creates girl boners.
Struggling not to head straight over to auto trader to find an MX-5 after watching this!
Do it!!
+Seb J and im like i should sell my nissan suv
+hassanito hajj you won't regret it but more fun in a mk1 then the mk2
I had the same though about the Boxster. 1999 model in my town right now for $9800.
Im working to fix mine. By the end of this year, I will be posting videos
Superchargers are wonderful; I owned a Corrado G60 for some years in Germany and I absolutely loved it! Docile and calm around town, very controllable and easy on country roads, and never seemed as quick as it was; Often passing other cars there was no need to downshift; just press the pedal down and a glorious long surge would grab the car like a big hand and shove you along; no screaming engine, no big body-roll, just a calm, efficient and lovely performance. Taking my girlfriend down to the cinema in Nürnberg where they showed movies in the original versions, we often broke 200km/h on the way... lovely.. I miss that car. Picked it up at the Karmann factory in Osnabrück with my dad when he bought it in '90 I believe. We toured the museum as they finished our car...
Just remind me ... How much to buy that Porsche in comparison to the Mazda ? When talking "value for money" I know which one would keep me smiling.
IIproductionsII NA6 MX5 ^.^
IIproductionsII You have missed the point completely. People who build Miatas for the track tend to spend the fortune saved on track time, proper driving skills, and safety equipment, easily making up the time and even passing noobs in R8's, Caymans, etc. Boxster is a GREAT car but..."prestige"? That is synonymous w/ "poseur."
Just remind me....how much better is Porsche in terms of luxury, refinement, comfort, equipment, safety, handling, reliability, efficiency, etc.?
derbigpr500
Slightly better in terms of luxury, unless your 6ft a miata is a comfy little car, and handling, you can get a Miata to handle better than a boxster if you put some money into it, equipment wise there's bells and whistles to them both, but I could care less about a radio and a bunch of doo-das, safety wise it all depends on the wreck or accident, reliability a Miata is a more reliable car that will run into less issues and is a large amount lees to work on and fix, and a boxter which is pretty much the cheapest newer model porsche is $35-40k more than a miata. I think I'd rather buy a Miata before I'd even consider buying a porsche boxster. Not to mention I know a woman with a Porsche boxster and she would rather drive her other cars and doesn't seem to care for it as much as you'd think. All together if you buy a Miata, and put $10K into it you'll have a more reliable, and way cheaper car. But hey, if you got the money, you can do whatever you want, I'd say get a 911 turbo way before get a porsche boxter. Also a 1.8l Miata, and then a 2.7l porsche, and the Miata almost got the same time. So really it's kind of a personal opinion on what you'd rather have.
derbigpr500 maybe less than how much it costs over a Miata. Then again, if money is not a problem...
I bet if he did another lap without letting off the accelerator as much around those last 4 corners the miata would have won. Oh well, I'm still going to buy a miata.
The car's suspension setup looks too oversteery. maybe a stiffer front would solve the problem.
Yeah, I suppose, I still think he could've got a better lap time.
*****
It looks like after all I possibly won't be getting a miata and I'll be getting a 93 impreza sedan. I can't find a Miata that is worth any time nor money where I'm living.
possibly not though. I might have to keep looking around.
Yeah, I'm going to look at it sometime this week, I'll still be able to do a lot of stuff to it. It's only $1200 so it's not very expensive. I can't find any Miata's for that price nor even $2000 that are running or worth that much money.
The miata would've won with a simple change of shoes. Those wheels and tires were too narrow.
Na, If he got lighter wheels, he would've had better 0-60 as less rotational mass = faster acceleration which would've helped quite a bit, if he also had an exhaust he would've had more power, also should've swapped the 2 pot calipers for 4 or 6 pots from another car
The driver said it had tons of grip and needed better brakes. Got to remember - this is a low weight car and does not need wide tyres so much.
@@andrewnorris5415 Would still benefit from a slightly wider wheel set up and judging by the way it oversteered every turn, maybe a beefier front swaybar as well.
@@samraymond215 yes to the Sway Bar ....;-)
At least the wheels, 6" stock is too narrow for for a 195 semislick
if you spend 1000,- more for correct wider weels for that power, like 225 and some extras you easy beat the boxter ;)
Great video. I love the boxter but I also really appreciate cars that are tuned up tastefully, not just completely maxed out ruining the car.
Since you can not get a boxster for under 5K this is a WIN for the MX-5!
Must be the same place where they sell 1K mx5s in same condition. lol
If you actually knew what you're doing with the miata you could make it faster with 5k
@@Triple88a lighter wheels, a turbo kit and a bolt in roll bar would've been better for the track
Speak for yourself...
@Elliot Rodger I did lol Far below $5k. Running, driving, supercharged 2000 Evolution Orange. Rotrex S/C, intercooler, aftermarket exhaust and no leaks in the top. All I had to do was install the bumper(I think he wanted to show off the intercooler), register/insure it and drive. Definitely not the average buy but, they're out there. I've seen several running, turbocharged Miatas for under $5k, as well.
You can see how MATT is all PROUD of his baby. It's been REBORN LOL! GOOD FOR YOU MATT!
For the average owner, the Miata will take the prize. If for no other reason than the "Smile Factor"
I have a '90 (1.6l) with 14Kmiles (you read that right) that i picked up for $1,800USD (with hard top) 2 years ago from a couple of 80yr olds in FL. Thet had been using it as a shelf in the garage. I spent $2,500USD to get it on the road. So the total was $4,300USD for a road worthy car.
I also have a '13 Boxster, cost $60K USD. The car ia a dream to drive. My only complaint is it could use a back up camera because of the high rear end.
When you factor in the cost of the car and maitenance, I'll give the prize to the Miata.
I don't mind pushing the car that cost $5KUSD hard. The $60K Boxster comes off as a great luxury GT.
Then figure in $50(Miata) vs $250(Boxster) for an oil change, $75(M) vs $500(B) for a tire....................
Sounds like you've got the best of both worlds! I had thought about selling my miata ($4000 USD) and save up for a Porsche Cayman. Looks like it makes a lot more sense for me to keep the miata for fun drive/track day and buy the Cayman for daily and occasional spirited drive to keep the overall maintenance cost down.
That would be the way to go if you're trying to keep expenses down and fun level high. That track day in the Cayman adds up in routine maintenance costs, then add in the longer term maintenance like clutch and brakes...... The Porsche is not a cheap car to keep on the road. If your Goal FUN and you're a weekend warrior not a pro, the Miata would be my choice. And don't misunderstand I LOVE my Boxter. To give you one more example of the Porsche expense: I had a small understood trim clip go missing, a piece that should cost $.99, Porshe doesn't make the clip available (it just slides into a small receiver) and you have to replace the whole panel $250. The dealer was doing it under warranty, or it would not have been done, the new panel came in broken. The dealer let me slide out both clips before taking the panel back. All were happy in the end.
Or you could just sell the $5,000 miata and use the money for Porsche maintenance and drive it harder and be able to have more fun in the Porsche all the time. A stock 90 Miata is nothing like a 2013 Porsche Boxster, to let the Boxster sit and drive a Miata because of maintenance costs is absurd.
lifehackertips My Boxster doesn't sit except in winter. The cars are in two different States both are driven and enjoyed!
Elliot Check I bought mine with 4500 miles. I didn’t pay that low though. Mine also has a hard top. Has no power steering, no air con, no power windows an LSD a sports exhaust all from factory. Weighed it and it weighs 1875 pounds full of fuel.
Not fucking bad for the budget of the build and the age of the car.
Really enjoyed this series!
i think he got a bit of a instruction to throw the mazda around like a drift car,so he might have a porsche in his xmas stocking.
I'm sure the Boxster is delightful to drive, and undoubtedly more elegant inside. That being said,
it's also 50% heavier than the Miata. There's just no way some extra rubber won't let the Miata
walk away in the corners. So maybe this test needed to be £5500 to allow for that (!)
PS I should have checked first….more like 25% heavier. My mistake, but still 25% is
quite a bit. One also has to wonder if those hp figures were dyno'ed since 196 hp from
a Sebring Supercharger is very much on the high side (one assumes extra big pulleys
and boost, but wonders about engine management etc to support it…not a strong suit
of the Sebring setup). Fun vid though!
More of these! Please!!! Really fun.
You guys should totally do a part three to this series, just to see how much more it costs to meet or exceed the Boxsters lap time. I have no doubt the Miata can do it, but the pertinent question is "for how much"? I'd be willing to bet with just a slightly wider tire, you'd make up a ton of time if not the majority of it. I run 195s on my mostly stock 1.8 and it will still get loose in 2nd and 3rd gear. Also EBC brake pads aren't particularly great. Next time go with Hawk.
Awesome video. really really enjoyed this. I've been thinking about an mx5 for a year or so now. Without doubt it's my next car.
Great test and all well considered mods. I'm sure a semi roll cage would have also helped without stuffing up street use.
This and part 1 best video in this channel ever.
Those sticker add altleast 50hp
Boxter matching performance for 5K? absolutely bonkers and what a great little car!!
Got myself a little mx5 1.8 sport recently and it's a brilliant little car! Stuck a decent set of coilovers on it and you cannot get a better handling fun car for the money. Only cost around £2k all in and it's just as fun on a back road as my 400bhp focus rs
Great face off. I'm a huge Mazda fan and it was cool to see it "Boxing" out of its class. I'd happily take either car, but for obvious reasons, I'd take the price friendly car.
I own a RX8 and that's pretty sweet, I hated the MX-5 up till a few weeks ago when I started working on a few of them and now I'm looking at buying one and using the RX8 as the track toy (192 5 speed stick shift, I'm also buying a Phanton Blue Evolve 231 6 Speed stick shift RX8)
Low powered Boxter with a great chassis. Strange test, but the Miata struggling with the corners would be a hoot. Think I could happily race it in the Porsche eating digestive biscuits and drinking a cup of tea. Still, I'd prefer to be driving the little car even though i'm not an MX5 fanboy.
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Larger wheels for larger discs would've helped massively, maybe even something like a ducktail spoiler to slightly improve rear traction at those speeds. Personally though I'd fit braces over the engine, under the body and nearer the boot for ridgetity (earlier mx5s didn't get any bracing)
MX5 is oversteering more then it needs to be . The car might benefit from a staggered tire set, 1 size wider in the back. A thinner rear anti-roll bar would also help to get the MX5 more planted at the back.
People usually go with a bigger tubular front sway bar to reduce oversteer.
No, they ruined it with that crappy coilover setup, 2 piece shock coilovers lack travel and handle pretty bad, ohlins too
How were you able to make that 0-60 on the Boxter so slow? 5.4-5.6 maybe but over 6.x??? I call BS
@Joe H If the run videoed is the actual run for the time, he bogs it down when leaving the line, that's a few tenths there alone.
“Professiaonal driver” over steers on near every corner
Good video, wish there were more MX5 vs Z3 vs 986 track battle videos! As far as the "drifting" comments, the driver seemed to be pushing both cars and tires to the limits; didn't look like drifting to me. I keep my Miata NA stock because every time I've checked it's very time consuming and more expensive to bring it up to Boxster standards than to buy a used Boxster...and you still wouldn't have the finesse, balance, and class of a Porsche. I think the Miata is the most fun when you're rolling the chassis and sliding around on stock tires and suspension; they spent millions designing it to be just that, just the way it is! Personally, and owning all three, the Z3 is the most "fun" on mountain roads near the Smokies! The Boxster is a little too good, like a slot car; and the Miata can't power out of corners up the mountain, and has a little to much give and sliding coming down. But any one of them is great. I'm guessing a Lotus Elise would beat them all on a mountain road. I test drove one, but not in the twisties.
Why on earth didn't they fit PROPER wheels and tires to the MX5??? Lightweight 15x9's with 225 width extreme summer tires easily generate 1.2 lateral G's which would have easily whooped up on the Porsche.
Because that would have put them over the stated budget of 5k quid.
Tires would have cost the same and a set of 15x9's would be all of $500 which would have been WAY better bang for the buck vs. some of the other stuff they got.
Good one mate. I'm looking into getting an MX5 myself. Boxster or Caymen being a bit pricey. Thanks
Nice to see some in the UK are now quoting rwhp (which is what a chassis dyno measures) and not extrapolating crank bhp and quoting it as gospel.
Would be interesting to perform the same experiment using a TorSen LSD, bigger braked (including ABS), wider tyred 2001 onwards Sport model fitted with upgraded suspension bushes and a decent set of anti-roll bars (e.g. 1.125” hollow front, 12mm rear).
Heh, pretty charming. I wonder if the suspension tuning on the Miata could be fettled with further to make it less pushy-slidey in corners, it looked like it took a lot of correction to do. I know it got springs/shocks and an alignment, probably corner-weighted as well, but did someone go in and adjust all the damping across the corners? (assuming they're adjustable). What can be done with some sway bar tuning now? And how much better of a chassis would it be with some under-car braces? Miatas are notoriously flexy, and stiffening the suspension on 'em tends to just make the body twist and distort instead.
Of course, then there's also the fact that you can really see where your money goes in the Porsche. It goes to that last 10-20% of tuning, calibration, and refinement that makes it come together and perform so well.
Yes, I couldn't agree more! The NB MX5 has torsional rigidity range of ~5,200 to 5,500 Nm/deg (not good) versus 987 Boxster (12,600 which is ok for a convertible). 987 cayman is 31,500 which is excellent! Interestingly a Mazda RX8 is 30,000 and the equivalent convertible, ie. NC MX5 is 8,132. It shows that convertibles are not the answer! My brother's MX5 had the full bracing kit from Flying Miata which helped a bit but I think a full cage is the answer
@@richardggeorge Yeah but a full cage for the road is illegal and dangerous, I got a GC fab half cage in my NB and that's the way to go for max stiffness in a road car, I think the torsional rigidity is at least double of the stock number now
@@fastslapterence5904 nice 👍
I'm wondering ... how do you go about technical check and emissions after you do something like this to your car... ?
what a nice change to see a car review of this type well done guys. the little mazda for what it is did so well against a car thats probably 30k.
just a few dollars more: sway bars and adjustable end links with suspension tuning and corner weighting, BBK from NB2 Sport model, maybe a PSI boost with an ethanol tune.
That was highly enjoyable!!
Consider the HUGE difference in design intent between the two cars (the mazda prioritises fun, engagement, simplicity and low weight and was cheap-ish, the boxster is about min-maxing performance with luxury and premium perception with high tech and costs a lot), the massive time gap in design (mk2 mx5 is really more like a facelifted mk1, which is was designed in the 80s). Consider all that, and 2.5s difference with such basic upgrades is pretty impressive.
That is so cool! Two the my favorites sport cars
All it needed was a larger front swaybar to match the Boxster time, you can see on every corner exit the driver was struggling to put down power without the car under-steering. A larger FSB would have allowed for much more power down on corner exit.
good couple of vids , and this is why I want an MX5.
Do they do one that takes 3 kids....
Shouldve gone with a massive fuck off turbo and ran 11-13psi
Nice to see Dave Rowntree went from drumming to driving cool cars 👍
Two simple things would've made this a lot closer: 1. Sway bars are incredibly cheap but effective, accounting for at least a half-second here. 2. Miatas can take huge rubber and proper 225/45 sized tires (vs. 195's!) would've easily dropped over a second more. Yes, those require 15x8 or 15x9 wheels but they're readily available and would even up this match nicely.
Ditch those EBC discs and pads and get some two piece front discs and decent pads, like RS14's all round, and I reckon you might be able to match the Boxster.
Very interesting exercise and they succeeded in making a MAJOR improvement to speed and handling over the factory Mazda.
Ive got no experience with mx5s but how are these cars when it comes to rear wheel clearance? that is to say that car could done way better if it can more rear end control
thatd be such a fun little track car for that money, though i think if they did a bit of chassis bracing and softened up the rear suspension settings it would be a tiny bit quicker and better to drive. it still rolls about a bit
Hmmm, you didn't change the header or exhaust? I read stock header and exhaust on these cars is very restrictive. Changing them out would have gave you a bit more wheel hp out of the supercharger.
We call it a manifold here and he said there was one in the pile of parts. Dunno about the rest of the system.
@@buggs9950 He installed a new intake manifold for the SC but didn't touch the exhaust side.
Enjoyed it a lot!
That MX-5 sounds amazing, love a supercharger whine!
need a stabilizer on hood and under body for front suspension and rear suspension
How does de SC whistles that much? I have a similar one but doesnt sound at all
Great job on that MX-5 guys...
I'm impressed he managed to change his watch during the Mazda laps.
Do you have a repair manual for that 1993 mazda mx5 supercharger that you bought me?
Epic, keep going!! Only 3 or 4 seconds to shave off. What about some aero kit?
It would take more than just a set of coilovers to bring the handling up to the level of the Porsche.
Sway bars, firmer bushes, adjustment of the suspension and steering geometry and increased chassis and subframe rigidity, all finely tuned, might give it close to the grip and stability of the Porsche.
Track day bro?
Bargain performance... Great exercise thanks! I like my nc but those earlier ones are where the ultimate fun is imo.
Umm, what about things like a comparison between the steering feel of both cars, how easy they are to control at the limit compared to each other, etc? Owen could have commented on that while he was at it. That's the whole reason why I watched these two videos.
would wider tires improve corner speed any?
the video did not mention anything about ecu? was this changed at all?
yes they did, watch part one where they tune up the car, they mention the ECU
I love all the comments about the driving style shown on the Miata but the big thing is $5k vs. 40-50K? for similar performance.
My grandparents own the 1990 Mazda im looking forward to trying to drive it.
Did you guys add exhaust kit and intake to go with the super charger?
Probably not. Cause the exhaust tip isnt changed and nobody just changes exhaust manifold and dont change the tip
I know im 5+ years late but if he smoothed out his steering input he would've gotten a faster laptime
Didn't think I would but I absolutely love how a supercharged 4 cylinder sounds....
Good job Nick from skuzzle! Go to guy for everything mx5. I've used him a couple of times now and he really knows his stuff.
The test driver is so relaxed he managed to swap his wristwatch while driving!
Not sure how accurate the numbers are when several other websites state the porsche 981 2.7 L engine 0-60 mph acceleration time is 5.3 to 5.6 sec. That is a big difference compared to their stated 6.2 sec. Possible bias? perhaps
Was that a standard Boxster? They are just so flat in the corners.
I know this vid is a little old.. But I'm getting a Miata next year and was wondering has anyone supercharged theirs and upgraded the clutch and flywheel but left everything else standard? I will have enough money to do that but I would need to save for suspension and all the other stuff. But I don't plan on taking it to a track, just want it to be quick on the road
always do your suspension and braking first, why add power if you cant corner and stop well
plus you'll be able to chuck it round corners better
Where to you get a supercharger kit for L1000? ($1300). I see Jackson Racing selling FR-S (but not Miata) superchargers for $4000. Flyin Miata sells kits for $5000.
Give the MX5 wider tires with a short sidewall like 215/35's along with upgraded brake calipers / larger brake discs, and it will be an even match versus the boxster. It won't need much brakes with tires that wide due to added traction but they certainly do help.
The Miata sounds like it runs on lightning blots lubricated by volcanic ash! It's awesome! I reckon you can get even lighter rims and if you have plenty of money you can rebuild the engine..
does not need rockhard suspension or stripping down - just better brakes.
I know this is a old video but why don’t you just get lighter wheels and lighter and stiffer sway bars? That on top of stripping off some weight might help shave off a second off the lap. Also strut tower bars/braces and lower arm bars/braces will help stiffen up the chasis to kill body roll in the turns without having to resort to a full roll cage. Rear roll bars on a miata are a must thought, they will save your head if you ever flip.
I really really want a cayman, but I am forced to remember the cost of ownership of my four Porsche’s over 12 back in the late ‘70’s.Great deal of fun, repairs, and tickets. The Miata is beginning to become appealing just to regain the fun of driving.
Definitely needed LSD and sway bar up front and thinner sway bar in the back with wider tires.
Matt has no idea that in approximately 5 years, he will be racing Yiannimize
what was the 0-60 on the miata
Dosen't boxter have the flat 4-cyl engine rather than the 6-cyl?
Mat you forgot to add racing stripes on the hood...that alone adds about 137hp man....not to mention the aerodynamics improvement...
Carbon fiber wrap for an additional 420hp and 69% better suspension!
He used higher gears coming out the corners even at the rolling start what if he done a lap using the same gears as the boxster instead of 3rd used second like he did when it was boxster.
I think you could shave the 2.8 seconds by increasing the size of the wheels and attaching lager brakes,but I guess that'll be over budget,but I'll be delighted to see it
I like how he didn't break in the clutch disk or the new brake pads
How are all those parts plus labor only 2k?