Supercharged Miata VS Turbo Miata Track Battle

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2018
  • It's supercharger vs turbo as we test a supercharged NB Mazda Miata against a turbo NA Mazda Miata.
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  • @TheOnlyToblin
    @TheOnlyToblin 6 лет назад +188

    2:22 "Ton of feedback though, you can feel every pebble on the road." That's just Miata steering for you. Even with power steering, the feedback is insane. The car really communicates with you. It's part of what makes it so goddamn fun to drive.

    • @Emoryyy123
      @Emoryyy123 6 лет назад +5

      Totally Legit Gaming [TLEG] it's because of the hydraulic steering rack! Even my NC has it. That, coupled with my stage one suspension (Tokico HTS shocks and flyin miata springs) makes the car feel like it's on rails. I'm putting on a cosworth supercharger some time in the next year 👌🏼

    • @ricepony33
      @ricepony33 2 года назад

      There is still a big difference in feel between the two racks. I’ve had 3 94R package cars with the manual rack and an 95M edition with the power.
      The power rack makes the car feel more nimble but jumpier, I can take the turns but I have less confidence in the actual amount of grip. More faith based compared to the manual rack. You know what you’ve got at all times. It’s much harder to auto-x the manual rack as the ratio is different.

  • @IamCredit
    @IamCredit 6 лет назад +514

    OMG they aren't perfectly comparable.
    They don't have the same tires.
    They don't have the same oil.
    They don't have the same floormats.
    They're not running the same shift knob.
    We, the RUclips community, demand a randomized double blind placebo control study. It's ok, we'll wait.

    • @AeroPR
      @AeroPR 6 лет назад +49

      Charlie Bui. Right? I mean, they aren't even the same color or have the same number of stickers. Who do they think they are fooling?

    • @tomkord220
      @tomkord220 6 лет назад +9

      Charlie Bui yeah look the black car is clearly at a huge disadvantage because its rocker cover isn't painted.

    • @alexisthemexican
      @alexisthemexican 6 лет назад +26

      Can't forget that the green car is running synthetic blinker fluid while the black car isn't. At least half second there.

    • @Djkommode
      @Djkommode 6 лет назад +18

      To be honest.... if you think tires don't make a difference... you're lying to yourself.

    • @juancarlos5964
      @juancarlos5964 6 лет назад +8

      Charlie Bui they're not even the same gen💤

  • @VEDEMRACING99
    @VEDEMRACING99 6 лет назад +147

    Next turbo S2000 Vs Supercharged S2000!

    • @The_True_
      @The_True_ 6 лет назад +4

      VEDEM RACING Yeah! Badass 2000 turbo versus the Engineering Explained SC S2000 would be cool!

    • @VEDEMRACING99
      @VEDEMRACING99 6 лет назад +1

      The True would be great to see!

    • @TheBishop12
      @TheBishop12 4 года назад

      VEDEM RACING supercharged wins every time. Reach VTEC first. It’s like, watching a movie after knowing the ending

    • @enlightnd0ne446
      @enlightnd0ne446 3 года назад

      WAy overdue and still over due!

    • @Mechjeb661
      @Mechjeb661 2 года назад

      There would be no difference. The same applies as the Miata and S2000 have the same race characteristics.

  • @Sam-gj3xg
    @Sam-gj3xg 6 лет назад +624

    The supercharger is like having a mosquito in your ear lmao

  • @ifgezroxy
    @ifgezroxy 6 лет назад +179

    Fd vs fc definetly. Nice rotary battle is always good.

  • @doctorferdinand1003
    @doctorferdinand1003 6 лет назад +115

    I’d gladly trade away 15 hp for the smooth, linear power delivery of a roots blower. Dealing with nonlinear turbo spool in a SWB car like a Miata would get frustrating.

    • @bjornkalle1628
      @bjornkalle1628 5 лет назад +5

      Thats because people still buy shitty turbos. Got myself a Borg Warner EFR 6758 on a build 2 Litre VVT MK 2.5. 370 HP on the engine and its running linear as fuck.

    • @PapaFujiwara
      @PapaFujiwara 5 лет назад +3

      What do you mean stock 1.6 miatas don't make power till 3.5k anyways lol

    • @patrick3671
      @patrick3671 5 лет назад +4

      That noise is hella annoying though

    • @dougiequick1
      @dougiequick1 4 года назад +2

      @@PapaFujiwara 3.5k? So just after high idle who cares about that with little powerplants that rev past 7k

    • @willbill808
      @willbill808 4 года назад +4

      And here come the turbo fanbois

  • @tommack8650
    @tommack8650 5 лет назад +10

    1. Great video.
    2. Greater cars and builds by both teams.
    3. Greatest track car ever!
    4. From personal experience, biggest difference is Reliability. At the track, you will spend more time in the garage wrenching your turbo while listening to the superchargers whine on the track!

    • @EditsUnlimited
      @EditsUnlimited 3 года назад +4

      I completely disagree. A properly designed turbo kit wont need any maintenance. Mine has been issue free for over 2 years. They are very simple and not alot of failure points

  • @Rttuning
    @Rttuning 6 лет назад +5

    Love when you guys do track battles!

  • @vkotis
    @vkotis 6 лет назад +59

    Miata vs MR2

  • @cameroncerullo7738
    @cameroncerullo7738 6 лет назад +220

    LS Swap Miata vs Corvette. I am curious what gen Corvette would be equivalent to a Miata with an LS.

    • @motomanb2
      @motomanb2 6 лет назад +18

      at least a c5

    • @cyz44
      @cyz44 6 лет назад +5

      great idea, would love to see this

    • @derekyam1805
      @derekyam1805 6 лет назад +4

      definitely interested in seeing this

    • @tylerstafford
      @tylerstafford 6 лет назад +24

      LS Miata = 4/5 Viper

    • @ruthlessreid9172
      @ruthlessreid9172 6 лет назад +16

      None it weighs 1k less. Hp/wt. It's why after half a century the AC cobra is still relevant.

  • @comet30265
    @comet30265 6 лет назад +1

    Good video man , very fun to watch.

  • @DBatty
    @DBatty 6 лет назад +3

    Loving those fender vents 😍
    Would be great to watch a decent length video showing how to go about setting up shocker and ride height settings at the track. Back to back tests after changes etc.

  • @s3ns3ble
    @s3ns3ble 6 лет назад

    Awesome, I'm all for more stuff like this!

  • @jeremycurtis529
    @jeremycurtis529 5 лет назад +1

    Great vid! Very fun to watch! I would definitely like to see more battles. E36 vs E46 and/or E46 vs E92 would be interesting.

  • @burrido111
    @burrido111 6 лет назад

    Good to see the guys back on the track

  • @sk83rboi777
    @sk83rboi777 6 лет назад +2

    Great video, learned a bit about Miatas!

  • @sticky40sx71
    @sticky40sx71 4 года назад +6

    That green miata is very well built! Beautiful ride

  • @xanvavy
    @xanvavy 6 лет назад

    great video and awesome cars guys! sending you some love from Windermere, Florida USA ✌

  • @BecauseMiata
    @BecauseMiata 6 лет назад +6

    I approve of this video. Great job, guys.

  • @shadowxps
    @shadowxps 6 лет назад +3

    I think this is a good illustration of the difference of mentalities between setups. The NA probably has faster times in it but I think I would still want to drive the NB. For me it's all about the feel and the ease.

  • @project_miata9684
    @project_miata9684 6 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @midnighteightsix6919
    @midnighteightsix6919 6 лет назад

    Loving the pop-up headlight NACA duct on the NA!

  • @mas921
    @mas921 6 лет назад +2

    Love this!!!

  • @loganhughes3981
    @loganhughes3981 6 лет назад +336

    Everyone saying the supercharger is cooler but it sounds waaaaaay annoying

    • @VS666
      @VS666 6 лет назад +25

      yeah the exhaust note is awful too

    • @MuadDib1402
      @MuadDib1402 6 лет назад +1

      Here here!

    • @TheOnlyToblin
      @TheOnlyToblin 6 лет назад +36

      Supercharger whine is an acquired taste, and some sound better than others. This was particularly whiny. And as stated, the exhaust note was awful.

    • @loganhughes3981
      @loganhughes3981 6 лет назад +6

      Well yea ive heard plenty of superchargers but this thing is awful, pissed off cat or something

    • @Sky-qd2mf
      @Sky-qd2mf 6 лет назад +7

      Superchargers only sound good where they belong. On a V8

  • @InvidiousIgnoramus
    @InvidiousIgnoramus 5 лет назад +21

    I'm not normally in favor of the sound of superchargers (although I like how they perform), but this supercharger sounds kick-ass!

  • @Nasonix2
    @Nasonix2 6 лет назад

    I'd watch miata or k swap content from you guys all day, everyday

  • @JesusIsGod222
    @JesusIsGod222 6 лет назад +47

    Suggestion : you guys should do a video comparing lap times of light weight wheels vs heavy . or square tire setup vs staggered ! just a suggestion .

    • @emc3065
      @emc3065 6 лет назад +5

      Tyre Reviews have done similar tests to that in pretty comparable settings: ruclips.net/video/Bgz0qF3CuNA/видео.html

  • @R1j0hn
    @R1j0hn 6 лет назад +4

    2nd !!! Love your vids, always enjoy watching Canadian content !

  • @nathanyoung3078
    @nathanyoung3078 6 лет назад

    After watching your 5-Day (8-Day) Civic build, and inspiring me to get another Civic, I feel like we need some more FF track cars on the channel!

  • @BoostedNDMiata
    @BoostedNDMiata 3 года назад +4

    Very cool. I just think the supercharger whine although fun to hear, would get old pretty quickly.

  • @NoGrip
    @NoGrip 6 лет назад +1

    This will be interesting, mine is also Black, also around 240 wheel with a 7200 limit

  • @mgamma5001
    @mgamma5001 3 года назад

    nice and perfect track battle, wanna see the V6 swap in that same mix

  • @GT_FREAK
    @GT_FREAK 6 лет назад +3

    Ohh my i love this battle😃😃👍

  • @CalebOrvik
    @CalebOrvik 3 года назад

    Nice driving my man!

  • @earnestbunbury2103
    @earnestbunbury2103 6 лет назад +12

    That supercharger is squealing louder than Ned Beatty in "Deliverance"...

  • @drpiv
    @drpiv 6 лет назад

    Great video.

  • @alexnaranjo3299
    @alexnaranjo3299 6 лет назад

    I love your maniacal laugh at 2:20 😂 pure excitement sound.

  • @vcupiano
    @vcupiano 6 лет назад +3

    Even a stock Miata is fun as hell to drive. A friend let me borrow one for about a month. It was unfortunately automatic but still fun to drive. They handle well and even with a small power plant they are fairly quick. I think the price of the newer ones is getting a little out of control however.

  • @mayk3lll
    @mayk3lll 5 лет назад +1

    Lol “sorry mom” best thing I’ve seen in a long time

  • @darxcide7375
    @darxcide7375 6 лет назад +96

    Fox body vs Modern mustang? Track civic vs modern civic?

    • @patx35
      @patx35 6 лет назад +3

      They already did a K swap Civic vs modern Type R Civic. They also did an Integra Type R vs modern Type R and a turbo Civic vs Modern Type R.
      TL;DW: Modern Type R is faster, but all other Hondas have VTEC, higher rev limiter, and more fun to drive. The K swap Civic gets nearly as good performance on the track as the 10th gen Civic Type R.

    • @ganjaspeeder1144
      @ganjaspeeder1144 6 лет назад

      put a turbo on that kswap civic and its leaving the type r in the DUST

  • @crossandshoot796
    @crossandshoot796 6 лет назад +56

    So when's the badass2000 going to get a supercharger??

  • @LLSniper
    @LLSniper 6 лет назад +1

    Enjoyed the video. Makes me want to modify a Miata someday.
    I would like to see a Corvette vs Shelby Mustang

  • @RapierTL
    @RapierTL Год назад

    Great review! I'm jonesin' for the day I have a supercharger on my Miata!

  • @DJimeku
    @DJimeku 6 лет назад

    badass video. Please make more turbo miata videos! :)

  • @taylorboultinghouse8296
    @taylorboultinghouse8296 6 лет назад

    Rear wheel drive turbo van track battle.
    Cheers!

  • @exidous6831
    @exidous6831 6 лет назад +2

    Want more of the yellow LS FD.

  • @tactiletinkerer
    @tactiletinkerer 6 лет назад

    Ariel-Atom-ization of an NB! Very interesting comparo...

  • @trentsqb666
    @trentsqb666 5 лет назад

    knew this was at cayuga right away when i saw the stands behind you lol

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 6 лет назад

    Nice!! Great cars!!

  • @adampiccioni13
    @adampiccioni13 6 лет назад

    @speedacademy !! Great video! How about CTSV vs Charger/Challenger? CTSV vs the world?

  • @Torontoinjectors
    @Torontoinjectors 6 лет назад +28

    Sure the cars are very different, however they have something very common: 650cc injectors from TorontoInjectors :)

    • @EditsUnlimited
      @EditsUnlimited 3 года назад

      Do you guys have 1000cc or larger? Something suitable for e85?

    • @Torontoinjectors
      @Torontoinjectors 3 года назад

      @@EditsUnlimited Hi, sure we do have. 1000cc direct fit flow matched set gor Miata www.torontoinjectors.com/product-page/mazda-miata-1000cc-injectors

  • @ImBarryScottCSS
    @ImBarryScottCSS 6 лет назад

    Lightweight track car I go supercharger, ultimately they are usually slower but more enjoyable to me. They can be built so differently that I would have both if I could.

  • @ItsTheNada
    @ItsTheNada Год назад

    Legend has it, he’s still driving that track trying to decide between Turbo and Supercharger

  • @gussy6142
    @gussy6142 6 лет назад

    Mk3 supra vs mk4 supra
    More track battles! Love it!!!

  • @dbnpoldermans4120
    @dbnpoldermans4120 6 лет назад

    Seem like a blast to drive!
    Any BMW 5-series E60, preferably diesel VS any other type of 5-series

  • @erwinlommer197
    @erwinlommer197 6 лет назад

    Obviously a tuned lancer vs tuned subie could be nice. But it might be more interesting and unique to see a comparison between a tuned lotus evora vs the electric evora we have seen on your channel couple of times. Ls swap porsche vs flat six porsche track battle would be great too!

  • @PoptartKingz
    @PoptartKingz 6 лет назад +11

    WE NEED THE FRS VS S2000

  • @austinthornton4150
    @austinthornton4150 4 года назад

    I loved the dash in the NA miata.

  • @therooster191
    @therooster191 6 лет назад

    I would love to see a turbo ka 240sx vs a supercharged ka 240sx, that would be so cool. You never see ka builds anymore

  • @NishantDash
    @NishantDash 6 лет назад +7

    NBs look soo nice!

  • @TheDailyBoost
    @TheDailyBoost 6 лет назад +1

    Let’s find something to go against my GTI soon ! Well....if I can stop breaking it all the time haha.

  • @ThePointlessBox_
    @ThePointlessBox_ 6 лет назад +14

    god damn I really like that NA

  • @chrisd1828
    @chrisd1828 6 лет назад

    old school Track Ready, Mitsubishi DSM (Talon,Eclipse,Galant vr4, etc) vs a Late model track packaged, performance car.
    example, 2018 Mustang with level 2 track pack vs 400HP AWD Eagle Talon.

  • @Fi1del
    @Fi1del 6 лет назад

    yaaaasss speedacademyyyyyy

  • @Leri0th
    @Leri0th 6 лет назад +8

    The turbo Blow of valve is jizz!

  • @trickz901
    @trickz901 6 лет назад +1

    I want those fender vents on my NA

  • @jasoncahochan
    @jasoncahochan 5 лет назад

    It would be awesome to see a battle between Dc2 vs ek9, both with a k-series motor

  • @james10739
    @james10739 6 лет назад +1

    That supercharged one sounded like a box full of bees

  • @joekawasaki
    @joekawasaki 3 года назад

    The turbo in the nb car is the right combo! The na was at a disadvantage from the start even though the generations were almost the same.

  • @wrth
    @wrth 5 лет назад +11

    "not a lot of room for heel and toe"
    Well you won't want brake and gas miles apart from each other

    • @Rollincoal311
      @Rollincoal311 5 лет назад +2

      Not all of us have little girl hipster feet though friend. Some of us men aren't 5'8 120 pounds with a frappe latte.

    • @chanmanthegreat1429
      @chanmanthegreat1429 3 года назад

      @@Rollincoal311 i cant heel toe in my miata, i have size 13 shoe and my foot gets stuck when i try and turn it sideways

  • @800ismyluckynumber
    @800ismyluckynumber 5 лет назад

    The initial d sticker on the turbo miata makes me smile

  • @toto29620
    @toto29620 6 лет назад

    Golf Mk3 VR6 VS Golf Mk3 GTI 16, understeering contest !

  • @ZeSneakyNinja
    @ZeSneakyNinja 6 лет назад

    The NA was probably a depowered steering rack which is a powersteering rack with all the power components removed. Definitely an acquired taste, but once you get used to it you can sling it around like a powersteering car.

  • @Kapottezuiger
    @Kapottezuiger 3 года назад +1

    This is what im doin to my miata when im older

  • @gazorpazorp9798
    @gazorpazorp9798 6 лет назад

    Great vid! Raj seems like an Indian-Canadian Wayne from Wayne’s World. Party time excellent.

  • @TheTERIO14
    @TheTERIO14 6 лет назад

    Fd vs fc would be sick. Miss hearing ken's 13b

  • @2007dalin
    @2007dalin 6 лет назад +2

    can you find any hot hatches to race? the new ford focus rs or fiesta vs a golf or suburu

  • @Fobwall
    @Fobwall 6 лет назад +1

    S13 vs S14 track battle!!

  • @beowolf9991
    @beowolf9991 6 лет назад

    Track video after soooo long

  • @WilliamLevesqueineX
    @WilliamLevesqueineX 6 лет назад

    Oh, I know these two cars ! Beat both of them at Shannonville last year for a Miata Cup Challenge/Track&Time time attack hehe :P

  • @derekyam1805
    @derekyam1805 6 лет назад

    would be interested in seeing a mustang vs vette, something like a gt350 vs either the new grandsport or z06

  • @OctaneMonkey
    @OctaneMonkey 6 лет назад +13

    Lotus elise vs alfa romeo 4c

  • @emanyo
    @emanyo 6 лет назад

    Nice vid! Let’s see 2j vs LS

  • @lpvgs-817
    @lpvgs-817 4 года назад

    I have the hood vents and fender vents on my NA miata

  • @GrahamBartle
    @GrahamBartle 6 лет назад

    Race prepped R32s GT-R vs GT-ST. Extra weight in GT-r vs 4 wheel drive. Maybe kinda interesting. Supra vs GT-ST. 944 vs Miata. Triumph vs MG. 350z vs tiburon.

  • @m36h9n
    @m36h9n 6 лет назад

    AWESOME.

  • @matthewhowell1389
    @matthewhowell1389 4 года назад

    What exact supercharger kit was used on that car I really love the sound. The kraftwerk's doesn't seem to sound that way

  • @Dabber422
    @Dabber422 6 лет назад +1

    Track battle is a good idea, Can we get a K eg vs B eg civic?

  • @Captaindan7141
    @Captaindan7141 6 лет назад +2

    Man you're driving the turbo Miata like Gran Turismo 2

  • @cocoguardian6679
    @cocoguardian6679 5 лет назад

    I think Ive might’ve seen the green Miata at the calabogie track at some point

  • @doapSauce
    @doapSauce 6 лет назад

    Way cool. I'm trying to decide on supercharged or Turbo 1.8. This didn't make anything any easier

  • @ldsiverling
    @ldsiverling 4 года назад

    Wish SC kits were as popular as TC ones. Damn.

  • @boro92
    @boro92 6 лет назад

    more miatas! Spec miata type build comparison.

  • @MumbleVlogs
    @MumbleVlogs 6 лет назад +2

    The only thing compatible is he name of the car everything else was so different. But not a bad estimate on what the cars might actually hit with more seat time

  • @enceptor
    @enceptor 6 лет назад

    Do an AE86 vs. AW11 or enginewise 2ZZ-GE vs. 4A-GE 20V ... show some Toyota love

  • @youcdtube
    @youcdtube 5 лет назад

    Request: could you guys do a video on a turbocharged gt86 vs a supercharged gt86 on the track using nearly the same power. Apples to apples etc

  • @fakeaname
    @fakeaname 6 лет назад +1

    Oh how I miss the days when a racecar vs racecar comparison actually involves racing the cars...

  • @wolfy9005
    @wolfy9005 6 лет назад

    No power steering is great once you're used to it, bump steers a lot more than with power steering(at least in my car), but I feel like it's made me a better driver

  • @thepilotmaster777
    @thepilotmaster777 4 года назад +1

    You really need to be smoother on your inputs. You can probably unleash an extra 3-5% more grip if your smoother!

  • @infiniteblue895
    @infiniteblue895 5 лет назад

    Turbo is super satisfying 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻