Up until January this year I was using two 850 bodies commercially. I tried the Z6 as second bodies but they weren’t robust enough for me. I now use an 850 alongside a Sony A7r IV. It would appear I can’t let go.
In my experience other components on a Nikon D850 are far more likely to fail first. That’s why it’s important to consider other factors such as cosmetic condition, wear on lens mount etc. Don’t just judge a camera on its shuttercount.
Being available is not the same as being in production. There were some good prices on new as old stock was cleared. But that’s all but gone with the exception of refurbished stock and shop returns. Also don’t forget that availability varies from country to country.
Refurbished cameras will ‘perform to manufacturer’s specifications’. I’ve seen refurbished cameras (not from Amazon) with minor dents and lenses (not from Amazon) with damaged coatings. These issue don’t impact performance in the slightest so offer an opportunity to save some money. But problems may arise if you decide to resell the equipment. Unless the saving is significant I would stick with factory-fresh ‘A’ stock. And be very careful buying from some Amazon resellers. Some will offer ‘new’ stock at reduced prices that’s actually refurbished and ‘B’ stock. I would only recommend buying from authorised dealers.
One owner, press used, 200k actuations. Looks a bit battered, who cares? Really, it is a tool, not a mantelpiece. 800 €. Fantastic camera. 10k actuations later and it has already paid for itself. I disagree on it being more difficult to clean inside. The eyepiece can be screwed off of course. Dust on the matte focusing screen is a surety sooner or later if you actually use your camera out in the real world, but that is upkeep - or you live with it. Otherwise, yes, do prefer little used, pristine exemplars - but it is more important to know the providence and have a good communication with the seller. It is always a risk buying second hand - but on the whole, if you consider this camera you should know what it is you are buying. It is very very well built. And for you that consider updating from a D750: I did and no regrets. Better tonality than D750, D610. Build quality leagues beyond. Big files though and expensive memory cards.
Thanks for commenting. Yes, brilliantly made cameras. There are plenty of high-use cameras that’ll go on for years. And there are some (not many!) low-use cameras that will fail tomorrow. If today you were to buy 50 heavily used cameras and 50 low-use cameras, the failure rate would be lower in the latter group. Stick to low-use cameras and the chance of failure is reduced - hence my advice. Dust on the screen and inside the eyepiece are not an issue. But it can be difficult to clean inside the finder. As you say, dust isn’t a problem but you need to be 100% sure it isn’t fungus.
From what you described, we should only buy a used camera if it is new, I have seen cameras with 2,800,000 shots and do you think that after 100,000 it is finished? All the buttons can be replaced, this does not make the Camera better, when you buy a used camera, we have to make sure that the price is good, or that the seller offers us a guarantee, that is the most important thing.
No. That’s not what I said! You should buy lower-use cameras because, on balance, they are likely to be less worn. If somebody offers you a working D850 with 2.8 million actuations for $100 that’s a good buy. But I wouldn’t pay much more. There’s plenty of choice so be selective. Avoid the higher-use cameras unless the price is right. A guarantee will give peace of mind but only for a short period of time.
@@WorldwideCameraExchangeIts interesting how the whole focus on actuations only really became a big deal about 6 or 7 years ago. Everybody started asking about it. Having used a slew of cameras in the last twenty years (and bought most second hand), I never came across one that had a failed shutter. I even sold a Canon 5DMKII that had around 800,000 s.a. Because of this over emphasis (only in my opinion ; )) you can pick up pretty good deals since noone wants the 'risk' of a high shutter count. I take your point though. Also, appreciate your vids. Thanks.
Yes, agree. Back in the days of film nobody had access to actuation figures. Instead we used the condition to judge level of use. Shutters very rarely fail.
Focus microadjustment is a body-lens issue, not just a body issue. I have teardown knowledge of this issue. I'm not making RUclips videos because I'm not good at monologue
Nikon D850s are readily available on the used market, so it's worth waiting for one in good condition with a low shutter count. High-use cameras can be a good option if priced appropriately, but personally, I would steer clear of any with over 100,000 actuations.
Depends upon condition and level of use but if almost mint then around £1500-£1600 in the UK. That’s a drop of around 20% over the last couple of years.
Thanks for commenting. You’re right, you can’t check every function. I highlight the main points to check. This will rule out the most likely issues. Nikon cameras are very reliable, so as long as you avoid the heaviest used equipment, you’re unlikely to go wrong. Also, as I say in the video, make sure you get a return option. This’ll give you plenty of time to check a camera thoroughly.
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Thanks a lot, a very useful video and really a quite relevant topic right now for some hobby photographers on a nikon bases.
Thanks - glad it was useful. Nikon SLRs are an excellent buy at the moment!
Up until January this year I was using two 850 bodies commercially. I tried the Z6 as second bodies but they weren’t robust enough for me. I now use an 850 alongside a Sony A7r IV. It would appear I can’t let go.
Thanks for commenting
They're still damn expensive. Probably the greatest digital camera ever made. And Nikon knows it!!
Good advice and getting ready to update my beloved D750. Trade in or extra camara body .
Thanks
Thanks for the information
Thanks, this is great info, even in general for most cameras! I’ve recently seen some of these advertised for $1300 with only around 5000 actuations!
Yes, applies to Canon, Sony etc too! Thanks for commenting.
Great video. I like your idea of using the keyboard for fine-tune focusing. I will not need to purchase the dedicated ones for that purpose : )
Thanks for commenting. The keyboard trick works really well.
Very useful! Thanks for all your great presentations. 📸
Thanks!
Very useful information. Thank you very much, that couldn't have been done any clearer!
Thank you - appreciated
What is the real-life shutter count expectancy of the Nikon D850 beyond its 200 000 designed shutter?
In my experience other components on a Nikon D850 are far more likely to fail first. That’s why it’s important to consider other factors such as cosmetic condition, wear on lens mount etc. Don’t just judge a camera on its shuttercount.
Incredibly useful video. Those were some bangin tips!
Glad it’s useful - thanks!
Well the D850 is in production: I bought mine new last Christmas 2023 for euro 2k. No point in buying a second hand.
Being available is not the same as being in production. There were some good prices on new as old stock was cleared. But that’s all but gone with the exception of refurbished stock and shop returns. Also don’t forget that availability varies from country to country.
What’s your feelings on Amazon refurbished? Using Global Camera USA & offer extended warranty. Obviously I get to test in hand for the month
Refurbished cameras will ‘perform to manufacturer’s specifications’. I’ve seen refurbished cameras (not from Amazon) with minor dents and lenses (not from Amazon) with damaged coatings. These issue don’t impact performance in the slightest so offer an opportunity to save some money. But problems may arise if you decide to resell the equipment. Unless the saving is significant I would stick with factory-fresh ‘A’ stock. And be very careful buying from some Amazon resellers. Some will offer ‘new’ stock at reduced prices that’s actually refurbished and ‘B’ stock. I would only recommend buying from authorised dealers.
One owner, press used, 200k actuations. Looks a bit battered, who cares? Really, it is a tool, not a mantelpiece. 800 €. Fantastic camera. 10k actuations later and it has already paid for itself.
I disagree on it being more difficult to clean inside. The eyepiece can be screwed off of course. Dust on the matte focusing screen is a surety sooner or later if you actually use your camera out in the real world, but that is upkeep - or you live with it.
Otherwise, yes, do prefer little used, pristine exemplars - but it is more important to know the providence and have a good communication with the seller.
It is always a risk buying second hand - but on the whole, if you consider this camera you should know what it is you are buying. It is very very well built.
And for you that consider updating from a D750: I did and no regrets. Better tonality than D750, D610. Build quality leagues beyond. Big files though and expensive memory cards.
Thanks for commenting. Yes, brilliantly made cameras. There are plenty of high-use cameras that’ll go on for years. And there are some (not many!) low-use cameras that will fail tomorrow. If today you were to buy 50 heavily used cameras and 50 low-use cameras, the failure rate would be lower in the latter group. Stick to low-use cameras and the chance of failure is reduced - hence my advice. Dust on the screen and inside the eyepiece are not an issue. But it can be difficult to clean inside the finder. As you say, dust isn’t a problem but you need to be 100% sure it isn’t fungus.
From what you described, we should only buy a used camera if it is new, I have seen cameras with 2,800,000 shots and do you think that after 100,000 it is finished? All the buttons can be replaced, this does not make the Camera better, when you buy a used camera, we have to make sure that the price is good, or that the seller offers us a guarantee, that is the most important thing.
No. That’s not what I said! You should buy lower-use cameras because, on balance, they are likely to be less worn. If somebody offers you a working D850 with 2.8 million actuations for $100 that’s a good buy. But I wouldn’t pay much more. There’s plenty of choice so be selective. Avoid the higher-use cameras unless the price is right. A guarantee will give peace of mind but only for a short period of time.
@@WorldwideCameraExchangeIts interesting how the whole focus on actuations only really became a big deal about 6 or 7 years ago. Everybody started asking about it. Having used a slew of cameras in the last twenty years (and bought most second hand), I never came across one that had a failed shutter. I even sold a Canon 5DMKII that had around 800,000 s.a. Because of this over emphasis (only in my opinion ; )) you can pick up pretty good deals since noone wants the 'risk' of a high shutter count. I take your point though. Also, appreciate your vids. Thanks.
Yes, agree. Back in the days of film nobody had access to actuation figures. Instead we used the condition to judge level of use. Shutters very rarely fail.
I'm not in the market for one of these.
I am just commenting to boost the Al(Gore)Rhythm.
Thank you!
A brand new one in the US is now (June 2024) about $2200 plus tax. I wonder if it will be discontinued soon?
Isn’t that already discounted?
@@WorldwideCameraExchange Sorry, I meant if Nikon will stop production of the D850 camera.
I don’t think you see it much cheaper that it is now.
A great camera, but unless you can recoup the cost, and is fine with a 2027 repair cut off date buy it.
Thanks for commenting
Focus microadjustment is a body-lens issue, not just a body issue. I have teardown knowledge of this issue. I'm not making RUclips videos because I'm not good at monologue
Yes, of course. Cameras and lenses are manufactured within tolerances so a cumulative error can mean focussing is slightly out.
Criminal how you dont have more views...
Thanks for commenting!
how much click is still oke to buy ?
Nikon D850s are readily available on the used market, so it's worth waiting for one in good condition with a low shutter count. High-use cameras can be a good option if priced appropriately, but personally, I would steer clear of any with over 100,000 actuations.
@@WorldwideCameraExchange i see 1 with 9.456 clicks, 1849, euro is that good ?
Sounds like a good buy if the condition is good.
@@WorldwideCameraExchange thank you very much. now i need to save money still
What sort of price should you pay
Depends upon condition and level of use but if almost mint then around £1500-£1600 in the UK. That’s a drop of around 20% over the last couple of years.
@WorldwideCameraExchange thankyou for advice Aussie
You can't really check how all those things work
Thanks for commenting. You’re right, you can’t check every function. I highlight the main points to check. This will rule out the most likely issues. Nikon cameras are very reliable, so as long as you avoid the heaviest used equipment, you’re unlikely to go wrong. Also, as I say in the video, make sure you get a return option. This’ll give you plenty of time to check a camera thoroughly.