I'm french and my english is not good but i would like to say thank's for theses videos, i just discover your channel this morning and see so much of them. And you dropped this VRAM comparaison, nice ! Keep going, that's realy usefull for Rog Ally.. sometimes, a little thing increase the performance a lot.
Dam, you have gone nuts with the game testing! Good job, keep it up. Funny you should mention 5 as that's what I've been messing around with myself and kinda came to the same conclusion. 4 is smooth but like you noticed, there's some stutters going on same with auto.
Timestamps are in description and easier to see the sections :) It looks like the membership option isn't showing up for some people. If you want to help support the channel you can become a member here :) ruclips.net/channel/UCTUwicX_v26e1dSv08FX8ZQjoin As of making the video to change VRAM to 5GB, 6GB or 7GB, it has to be done in BIOS. See guide here: ruclips.net/video/nhyXOqHHV7k/видео.html Further breakdown of larger sections in video: -First Test (4GB vs 5GB vs 6GB): 0:48 - 10:02 -0.1% Stutter Issue: 12:06 - 14:26 -Second Test (Auto vs 4GB vs 8GB): 15:03 - 22:19 -Hunting for high VRAM Games/Testing: 23:23 - 36:14 -The Charts: 37:22 - 45:19 -Final Thoughts/Recommendations: 45:41 Hope y’all enjoy! :)
Put watermarks on your videos. You're clearly putting in serious effort - and we all appreciate it - but there's a ton of content to be screenshot out of your videos without any attribution required, which you deserve.
Great work as always! The 3.2 gb number brings 2 things in mind when I hear it. The old 970 Nvidia card that was cheaply built though it had 4 gb, only 3.5 of it was properly usable. That last .5 was garbage RAM and ran 20X slower than the rest. And the Nintendo Switch, a system with 4GB but only 3.2 GB was usable for games while the rest was OS only. Maybe they programmed these games with those points in mind and maybe not, it's just what comes to my mind is all.
Thanks for the info! What you said makes sense to me, and I used to have a GTX 970 SSC (which I loved), but I didn't test anything back then. What's so strange is at 5GB it immediately uses the 4GB it needs. And the ones that start at 3.2GB (most of them) will slowly climb up to the 4GB. But when given more, they'll immediately use more. It's very strange, I suspect it could even be the way Asus is managing the VRAM. If you have any ideas for how we might be able to test it further and see what's going on, let me know. I'd definitely be down to run some more in-depth tests on that issue alone just to see :)
Be blessed, Kind Sir, for this video! ❤️ I played for almost a year with 5GB, with 0 problems on every game (FH5, FIFA23, Genshin, etc), and getting really amazing performance with custom and tested graphic settings…I’m really obsessed with making everything work as best as possible. But yea, 5GB it is for me, even tho I was thinking much about getting the Ally X…I think imma hold to my original Ally with Z1 Extreme, for the moment. 🙂 (waiting for a sale or idk)
Great video, like always from you. The auto setting is very interesting and seems like they could tweak that to better match the max performance that can be had when setting actual vram amounts. On the other hand, it seemed to do well with only using the tiny amount of vram. Just seems odd that auto uses such a tiny amount in all these games. I wonder if the AMD gpu drivers that should eventually be coming will change some of this because your video does show some weirdness in vram allocation. I don't know if that is a driver issue or if it's simply how this SoC works. The RDR2 vram usage just seems bizarre.
Thanks! I really hope they do tweak Auto to be more efficient. I'd love to be able to set the VRAM to Auto and forget about it all together. It did improve in BIOS 323, but just not quiet good enough. I'm looking forward to the new AMD driver as well, I'll be running some tests as soon as it comes out. It'd be great if we get even a little more performance and better VRAM allocation. The games stopping around 3.2GB and then even 4GB when it has 8 available seems strange to me. But we saw that some games will just use it up anyway, so I don't know exactly what's going on. I had someone comment that if you set VRAM to 1GB RD2 actually performs better, like you said I wouldn't be surprised with the weird results we got.
@@axroo5068 Auto seems to have improved even more with the latest BIOS updates. You could try it and see if it works for you. I'm personally still using 5GB's as there is still a slight performance edge from my lasts test.
Modern Games and GPUs use compression for the data stored to VRAM. So they use full 4 GB, but a portion reserved for worst case scenarios where data can't be compressed, like noisy patterns in effects and textures.
So your Red Dead benchmark confirms what I found off with my playthroughs. It's just like the Steam Deck where anything above 1gb Uma, Red Dead performs slightly worse. Set the vram to 1gb and Red Dead, for some reason, gives you better performance.
Thanks 👍 great work👏 Would be nice to have newer AAA games that are really hard to run on the comparison. Like Jedi survivor or Hogwarts Legacy or Spider-Man. Of course Witcher, cyberpunk and so on are demanding but they are already years old and had a lot of great optimization. More recent games that are horribly optimized for Pc seem to be the target for eventually turning the VRam higher.
I’ve gotten Spider-Man remastered to run very well(but that was on 8gb vram, before the update. Have to try it out with 6. But also with Spider-Man I changed my page file to 16gb instead of the 8,7 that is standard and after that it ran amazing and I got +60fps 1080p I think it was fsr quality or balanced, it dipped down to like 50 sometimes when around in the city. Besides that I’ve pretty much only played Diablo. Which runs extremely well.
I have disabled on my system. However, I haven't noticed much difference (even in games I thought it'd matter). I'm sure there are games out there, but I haven't tested them yet. On my main rig with 32GB, core isolation being disabled helps a TON in a game called Star Citizen, but it also eats all 32GB (and would use even more if available).
Same! Even dedicating 8GB to the video card and only having 8GB system ram still seems to work pretty good in most games. I chose 5GB as my default VRAM though and it's working great! :)
Hey man, thanks for the great ROG Ally videos. As a Ally user wasn’t sure exactly where to start tweaking things, all of your videos have helped a ton. I binged most of them all at once, lol And are you sure that you have memberships set up properly? You mentioned it in this video, but I don’t see them on your channel. Just wanted to throw you a $1💰
Hey thanks, I'm glad the videos have helped out! Someone else messaged me about the membership thing, I'm not sure what's going on :/. This link might work: ruclips.net/channel/UCTUwicX_v26e1dSv08FX8ZQjoin.
Awesome video. Just curious, were these tests done before bios update 323 or after? Bios 323 actually improved performance for me with D4 and i am using 6gb vram, FSR quality and everything set to highest, I get 40+ 50 fps
BIOS 323 :). Diablo 4 can vary a lot depending on where you're at and day vs night. The tests I run are pretty demanding and because it's early on in the tutorial it's always the exact same time of day, weather, etc.
One thing to keep in mind… the more VRAM you use the less system RAM you have, so this will affect your fps. This is where your “strange” results are coming from I think, so the CPU based games will want more RAM over VRAM. Also, VRAM doesn’t translate to fps, more VRAM means more textures etc. in a higher resolution. Suggest you connect up a 1440p monitor and see what you get then since the screen on the Ally is limited. Interesting that Auto VRAM meter is broken.
Thanks a bunch for this! Curious, how do you get the VRAM to show up while you're playing. I don't see that in any of the monitoring tool modes on the Ally. Is it a 3rd party tool?
Hi filterless, iam curious about how this vram would perform for Yuzu. Can you test and share results for game like Totk? would it be better to set higher vram?
Diablo does have issues with stutters though. I think maybe it’s cause the season just started. I’ve experienced them on both 4 and 6vram. Besides that it runs very well. Almost 1300 subs now! Well deserved 👍🏻🔥 One last thing so my main game is Diablo 4 with some Spider-Man here and there. U would recommend 5vram? Spider-Man I had crashed before I set it to 8vram and made the page file bigger. But Diablo is definitely my main game.
What if, system doesn't allow to utilise more vram because it needs RAM? I run Hogwarts Legacy on 4gb VRAM and it was messy with frames, after changing to AUTO it is much smoother but when I looked at VRAM usage it only was 300+mb but RAM at the same time fully utilised and frame times became much smoother.
I heard about this issue, i think with the apus Windows or amd should optimize the auto vram because in every game if u select anything than auto it will use vram and ram more than it will do just for auto , i noticed in some games
after several tests I find that it is the original setting of 4gb of Vram that gives the best performance, because afterwards if we exceed 4 of vram we have more than enough RAM for the cpu
For real seems like the basic settings are working fine out of the box so ill do the same and keep vram at 4gb until i buy one of th xg mobile stuff for 1440p and 4k
Im wondering if the weirdness with vram has to do with the fact we still dont have any real video drivers from amd yet. All we can rely on at the moment is asus with bios.
I definitely think this could be the case. I can't believe we still don't have proper drivers. I'm planning to run a test once the new one drops to test differences :)
@@filt3rless I'm hoping they come soon. I just feel like the tech in this thing is not being utilized properly just yet. Definitely need to give it some time to mature.
Have u tried checking the texture problem in rdr 2 where some people have problems with the textures not being very low quality even though it was set at high. This is a solvable problem btw
I've been running 5GB's :) It'll depend on the games you're playing though. If you play Call of Duty, then I'd run 8 specifically for that game. Everything else I've played though seems to work with 5GB no issues.
There is something that noone seems to understand with vram on APU's. so let me try and explain. So, i APU has no dedicated vram. it uses the system ram as vram. now lets say you have 3GB of vram allocated to the GPU of the APU, bios locks that ram away from the OS and sets it aside to the GPU. but lets say you open a game that uses more than 3GB of vram, what happens? Well Windows (or any OS) starts to use system ram to make up for the extra vram required. now, normally that would be bad with a dedicated GPU as system ram tends to be slower than the vram on the GPU but this is a APU, which uses system ram to begin with. so, when you run out of the allocated vram, the OS just uses system ram but because the "vram" and system ram are the same, when it does use system ram you should see no difference in performance. So, is there a point of increasing the vram amount on APUs like what's in the ally or steam deck? Not really, setting it to 2-3GB should be enough, you really dont get any benefit from increasing it more apart from having less for the OS to use which could actually harm performance more once the OS runs out of ram (which lets be honest, its windows, you will run out of ram)
Hey, it's just by keeping the watts lower. Also the room I'm in is usually decently cold which helps with temps. Using a program called G-Helper is also great as you can set any watt level you want and it'll stay right at that level. I have a video on it here: ruclips.net/video/-UPfsmZxLss/видео.html
I use a program called MSI Afterburner with RTSS. I don't have a guide on it, and it takes a little while to setup. There are a bunch of guides on RUclips though that will show you :)
The thing is, even just 4GB would actually work pretty good. But some games are limiting themselves to 3.2GB for some reason. So if the games actually used 4GB, I think 4GB would work pretty well across the board. Since they don't though, the 5GB option gives them the headroom. If you saw in the results though, even if you set 6GB, not many games at all even go over 4.5GB. But 5 or 6GB still work great, so I'd use whichever one you like :)
Auto works a lot better now and seems to have improved with certain BIOS updates. I've been thinking about doing an updated VRAM video, but just haven't had much time to put into the channel lately. I'd say give it a shot and see if it works for the games you play :)
so do you have to change the vram, and restard windows everytime you want to play a game for example if i want to do 8G on COD and then play diablo i have to restart before playing diablo?
It's basically where it'll share the ram between the CPU and GPU automatically. So it's getting more then the 400MB, that'd just the small dedicated about. However, I don't know how Asus is deciding what gets what amount of RAM. I'd assume they're giving priority to the system and then letting the GPU use what's left over, but I'm unclear on that. If I was building a system I think it'd be really hard to get Auto working, because of lot of games would try to request too much, and there isn't a set "give this game this amount". They'd almost have to fine tune auto for every game. I'm sure someone else knows a lot more about this though, but those are my thoughts, hope it helps :)
Any thoughts as to why D4 is bumping to 6Gb VRAM when settings are 6Gb but when going to 8Gb it goes back to 4? When I set 6Gb I noticed less stuttering than 4Gb, but judging from your benchmarks it somewhat shows that 4Gb is king. Thoughts? Cheers
It's such a strange result and I'm not sure why it does it. Some of the other games also use slightly more VRAM when they have less dedicated. To me what the Ally is doing is very odd, however, it's still working really well. I've been running 5GB and just playing games and it's been awesome! I think 5GB is the sweet spot (including Diablo 4). It allows the few games that seem to not want to use 4GB to actually get up to that, and even go past up to 5GB. If you play COD though, 8GB is the way to go 👍
How do you fix a game when the screen goes black while the sound is still running in the background. Afterwards the game crashes stating “Unreal Engine is exiting due to D3D device being lost error hung”. Any advice on how to fix this problem? I’d greatly appreciate it 🙏🏻
@@bozolozo21 Ohh, what I'd suspect then is it's because we still haven't got updated AMD drivers for it. One thing you could try is changing it to 8GB and see if that works. If not, I think it's going to be a graphics driver issue. Hopefully we get some updated ones soon.
@@bozolozo21 Dang, yeah it's a driver issue most likely. Once the new driver comes out I'm going to be releasing a video on it and testing a bunch of games :)
It's from software called MSI Afterburner. I don't have a tutorial on the channel yet, but there are plenty out there that can show you how to get it setup :)
Great benchmarks, though I never pay attention to .1% lows in any benchmark. All it takes is one momentary stutter, be they traversal/loading, shader comp, or some other things going on with windows in the background and never represent real-world gameplay experience.
Thanks, and I agree. The 0.1% lows are a very loose number. Since I show the gameplay I leave it in there so when there is a big stutter we know how low it got. But I definitely don't think it's near as important as the AVG/1%.
@@filt3rless yeah, feels like reviewers and benchmarkers started throwing those in when performance during the last gen (3080ti and such) became powerful enough with a good build to brute force through just about anything. 🤣
How do you get your ally to run ultra on cod without crashing, mine crashes during a game and got it set on 8g ram. Do you have any solutions to fix the issue
I'd try lowering the settings down some. Also there is an option called "Memory Scale" that I have set to 85% so it will only use that amount, not sure if it matters, but it could make a difference.
It definitely does, however, I found setting a dedicated GB limit usually nets better performance than Auto across a range of games (a lot more than just what I recorded in this video).
I've been using 5GB and haven't switched it since making the video. If you run Call of Duty you'll need 8GB, but outside of that 5GB seems like a great option. I'm sure there are other games out there that will need more, but I haven't tested them yet.
Literally giving us updates daily this must of took so long to make test and edit bro honestly your goated 🐐 appreciate all the help your giving us
Doing the hard work for the rest of us 🫡
Just got an Ally and I'm watching through all your useful videos. They're very helpful to get the most out of this impressive gaming machine.
I'm french and my english is not good but i would like to say thank's for theses videos, i just discover your channel this morning and see so much of them. And you dropped this VRAM comparaison, nice ! Keep going, that's realy usefull for Rog Ally.. sometimes, a little thing increase the performance a lot.
Thanks! :)
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@@OtakugameFR Oui mais toi je regarde tes vidéos, mdr.
Bro.... outstanding job. This is exceptional work in my opinion, very thorough. I had to wait until after work in order to enjoy it. Very well done 😎
You're like a 1- man Digital Foundry. Thank you.
Dam, you have gone nuts with the game testing! Good job, keep it up. Funny you should mention 5 as that's what I've been messing around with myself and kinda came to the same conclusion. 4 is smooth but like you noticed, there's some stutters going on same with auto.
Timestamps are in description and easier to see the sections :)
It looks like the membership option isn't showing up for some people. If you want to help support the channel you can become a member here :) ruclips.net/channel/UCTUwicX_v26e1dSv08FX8ZQjoin
As of making the video to change VRAM to 5GB, 6GB or 7GB, it has to be done in BIOS. See guide here: ruclips.net/video/nhyXOqHHV7k/видео.html
Further breakdown of larger sections in video:
-First Test (4GB vs 5GB vs 6GB): 0:48 - 10:02
-0.1% Stutter Issue: 12:06 - 14:26
-Second Test (Auto vs 4GB vs 8GB): 15:03 - 22:19
-Hunting for high VRAM Games/Testing: 23:23 - 36:14
-The Charts: 37:22 - 45:19
-Final Thoughts/Recommendations: 45:41
Hope y’all enjoy! :)
Put watermarks on your videos. You're clearly putting in serious effort - and we all appreciate it - but there's a ton of content to be screenshot out of your videos without any attribution required, which you deserve.
@@Ky.H-i Hey thanks! I didn't even think about that 🙈
Great work as always! The 3.2 gb number brings 2 things in mind when I hear it.
The old 970 Nvidia card that was cheaply built though it had 4 gb, only 3.5 of it was properly usable. That last .5 was garbage RAM and ran 20X slower than the rest.
And the Nintendo Switch, a system with 4GB but only 3.2 GB was usable for games while the rest was OS only.
Maybe they programmed these games with those points in mind and maybe not, it's just what comes to my mind is all.
Thanks for the info! What you said makes sense to me, and I used to have a GTX 970 SSC (which I loved), but I didn't test anything back then. What's so strange is at 5GB it immediately uses the 4GB it needs. And the ones that start at 3.2GB (most of them) will slowly climb up to the 4GB. But when given more, they'll immediately use more. It's very strange, I suspect it could even be the way Asus is managing the VRAM. If you have any ideas for how we might be able to test it further and see what's going on, let me know. I'd definitely be down to run some more in-depth tests on that issue alone just to see :)
Bro you are goated, a huge thank you from every ally owner!
Hell yeah keepppp these videos coming appreciate all the time and effort
Thanks for doing all the hard work 😁 i come here for all my rog ally tips and settings, 5gb seems like the sweet spot for me ❤
Thank you for all the information given in this overview. Im considering getting the ally in the next few weeks
Thank you for thorough testing VRAM setting. Can't wait for new videos about Rog Ally optimisations.
Be blessed, Kind Sir, for this video! ❤️
I played for almost a year with 5GB, with 0 problems on every game (FH5, FIFA23, Genshin, etc), and getting really amazing performance with custom and tested graphic settings…I’m really obsessed with making everything work as best as possible.
But yea, 5GB it is for me, even tho I was thinking much about getting the Ally X…I think imma hold to my original Ally with Z1 Extreme, for the moment. 🙂 (waiting for a sale or idk)
6 seems to be the sweet spot
Great video, like always from you.
The auto setting is very interesting and seems like they could tweak that to better match the max performance that can be had when setting actual vram amounts. On the other hand, it seemed to do well with only using the tiny amount of vram. Just seems odd that auto uses such a tiny amount in all these games.
I wonder if the AMD gpu drivers that should eventually be coming will change some of this because your video does show some weirdness in vram allocation. I don't know if that is a driver issue or if it's simply how this SoC works. The RDR2 vram usage just seems bizarre.
Thanks! I really hope they do tweak Auto to be more efficient. I'd love to be able to set the VRAM to Auto and forget about it all together. It did improve in BIOS 323, but just not quiet good enough. I'm looking forward to the new AMD driver as well, I'll be running some tests as soon as it comes out.
It'd be great if we get even a little more performance and better VRAM allocation. The games stopping around 3.2GB and then even 4GB when it has 8 available seems strange to me. But we saw that some games will just use it up anyway, so I don't know exactly what's going on.
I had someone comment that if you set VRAM to 1GB RD2 actually performs better, like you said I wouldn't be surprised with the weird results we got.
@@filt3rlessany update on auto mode? should i keep it on or leave it at 5/6gb?
@@axroo5068 Auto seems to have improved even more with the latest BIOS updates. You could try it and see if it works for you. I'm personally still using 5GB's as there is still a slight performance edge from my lasts test.
Modern Games and GPUs use compression for the data stored to VRAM. So they use full 4 GB, but a portion reserved for worst case scenarios where data can't be compressed, like noisy patterns in effects and textures.
Brilliant video, my Ally work so much better because of your videos! Thank you!
Your content is legendary. thank you so much
So your Red Dead benchmark confirms what I found off with my playthroughs. It's just like the Steam Deck where anything above 1gb Uma, Red Dead performs slightly worse. Set the vram to 1gb and Red Dead, for some reason, gives you better performance.
My fellow tech nerd 🤓😄 This is the stuff us tech tinkering fans love. Yes, I want to know exactly what happens when I change the VRAM! U da man 😎
Wow man, super in depth. Respect! Useful video. 6GB VRAM is 💰
God damn, you are doing God's work yourself. Now, I'm pretty much clear what settings I want the VRAM to be for which game.
Damn this is comprehensive. Instant sub.
Ah, my prayers for long videos have been answered. 😁
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@@filt3rless Great work, this must have taken ages. Much appreciated.
Thanks for all the hard work!
Why does this remind me of the Nvidia 1070 Titan days? The VRAM may emhave been 6gb, but the amount useable was 3gb.
Thanks 👍 great work👏 Would be nice to have newer AAA games that are really hard to run on the comparison. Like Jedi survivor or Hogwarts Legacy or Spider-Man. Of course Witcher, cyberpunk and so on are demanding but they are already years old and had a lot of great optimization. More recent games that are horribly optimized for Pc seem to be the target for eventually turning the VRam higher.
I’ve gotten Spider-Man remastered to run very well(but that was on 8gb vram, before the update. Have to try it out with 6. But also with Spider-Man I changed my page file to 16gb instead of the 8,7 that is standard and after that it ran amazing and I got +60fps 1080p I think it was fsr quality or balanced, it dipped down to like 50 sometimes when around in the city. Besides that I’ve pretty much only played Diablo. Which runs extremely well.
you make the best ally videos! ty!
As a 900p RIS-80 user, 5GB is overkill for most games I play. Cant wait for AC6 and Starfield then I may have to bump it from 5 to 6
Didnt know auto had a performance penalty 😮😮
Amazing work 👍
Subscribed. Thank you for your efforts 👍
Awesome research. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on disabling Memory Integrity/Core Isolation.
I have disabled on my system. However, I haven't noticed much difference (even in games I thought it'd matter). I'm sure there are games out there, but I haven't tested them yet. On my main rig with 32GB, core isolation being disabled helps a TON in a game called Star Citizen, but it also eats all 32GB (and would use even more if available).
Great video. Keep doing good work!!!
I'm actually impressed by the fact that 10GB of system RAM is enough to run Windows 11 + A Game like Cyberpunk at 40fps on a handheld 😮👍
Same! Even dedicating 8GB to the video card and only having 8GB system ram still seems to work pretty good in most games. I chose 5GB as my default VRAM though and it's working great! :)
Hey man, thanks for the great ROG Ally videos. As a Ally user wasn’t sure exactly where to start tweaking things, all of your videos have helped a ton. I binged most of them all at once, lol
And are you sure that you have memberships set up properly? You mentioned it in this video, but I don’t see them on your channel. Just wanted to throw you a $1💰
Hey thanks, I'm glad the videos have helped out! Someone else messaged me about the membership thing, I'm not sure what's going on :/. This link might work: ruclips.net/channel/UCTUwicX_v26e1dSv08FX8ZQjoin.
@@filt3rless Cool, yeah that link worked. Idk why it didn’t show up when I searched for it
@@mbhayden14 Sweet! Thanks for becoming a member :)
Awesome job. Seems like 5 or 6 is the sweet spot. I noticed on my system that deathpool won’t run if I run it anything but auto or 4gb. Weird!
Ty for your bench good job😊
Awesome video. Just curious, were these tests done before bios update 323 or after? Bios 323 actually improved performance for me with D4 and i am using 6gb vram, FSR quality and everything set to highest, I get 40+ 50 fps
BIOS 323 :). Diablo 4 can vary a lot depending on where you're at and day vs night. The tests I run are pretty demanding and because it's early on in the tutorial it's always the exact same time of day, weather, etc.
Amazing work! Subbed
Great work Filter!
One thing to keep in mind… the more VRAM you use the less system RAM you have, so this will affect your fps. This is where your “strange” results are coming from I think, so the CPU based games will want more RAM over VRAM. Also, VRAM doesn’t translate to fps, more VRAM means more textures etc. in a higher resolution. Suggest you connect up a 1440p monitor and see what you get then since the screen on the Ally is limited. Interesting that Auto VRAM meter is broken.
make sense, 5GB its good to me
So if I want more performance what should I set my Gb at for VRAM ?
Thank you for this video! High quality and pack full of bechmarked games.
Sound like the games had yet to update VRAM usage limitations for Z1 extreme APU.
Thank you soo much and great work on your video. Just wish you had a tarkov test😅
Best ROG Ally tester out there!!
Thanks a bunch for this! Curious, how do you get the VRAM to show up while you're playing. I don't see that in any of the monitoring tool modes on the Ally. Is it a 3rd party tool?
Bro thank you so much!
Hi filterless, iam curious about how this vram would perform for Yuzu. Can you test and share results for game like Totk? would it be better to set higher vram?
Diablo does have issues with stutters though. I think maybe it’s cause the season just started. I’ve experienced them on both 4 and 6vram. Besides that it runs very well. Almost 1300 subs now! Well deserved 👍🏻🔥 One last thing so my main game is Diablo 4 with some Spider-Man here and there. U would recommend 5vram? Spider-Man I had crashed before I set it to 8vram and made the page file bigger. But Diablo is definitely my main game.
This is GOAT material
What if, system doesn't allow to utilise more vram because it needs RAM? I run Hogwarts Legacy on 4gb VRAM and it was messy with frames, after changing to AUTO it is much smoother but when I looked at VRAM usage it only was 300+mb but RAM at the same time fully utilised and frame times became much smoother.
I heard about this issue, i think with the apus Windows or amd should optimize the auto vram because in every game if u select anything than auto it will use vram and ram more than it will do just for auto , i noticed in some games
I can't understand why the highest VRAM wouldn't just be the best option all the time?
after several tests I find that it is the original setting of 4gb of Vram that gives the best performance, because afterwards if we exceed 4 of vram we have more than enough RAM for the cpu
For real seems like the basic settings are working fine out of the box so ill do the same and keep vram at 4gb until i buy one of th xg mobile stuff for 1440p and 4k
Im wondering if the weirdness with vram has to do with the fact we still dont have any real video drivers from amd yet. All we can rely on at the moment is asus with bios.
I definitely think this could be the case. I can't believe we still don't have proper drivers. I'm planning to run a test once the new one drops to test differences :)
@@filt3rless I'm hoping they come soon. I just feel like the tech in this thing is not being utilized properly just yet. Definitely need to give it some time to mature.
is this still good for reference? or is this already outdated especially the Auto mode since various asus updates?
Have u tried checking the texture problem in rdr 2 where some people have problems with the textures not being very low quality even though it was set at high. This is a solvable problem btw
So which is your final conclusión? Which Quantity of V RAM is best for choosing?
Thank you so much
I've been running 5GB's :) It'll depend on the games you're playing though. If you play Call of Duty, then I'd run 8 specifically for that game. Everything else I've played though seems to work with 5GB no issues.
Thanks for this!!
I think sticking to 5GB is the best result
Straight sub xD not many good rog ally yubtubers
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There is something that noone seems to understand with vram on APU's. so let me try and explain.
So, i APU has no dedicated vram. it uses the system ram as vram. now lets say you have 3GB of vram allocated to the GPU of the APU, bios locks that ram away from the OS and sets it aside to the GPU. but lets say you open a game that uses more than 3GB of vram, what happens?
Well Windows (or any OS) starts to use system ram to make up for the extra vram required.
now, normally that would be bad with a dedicated GPU as system ram tends to be slower than the vram on the GPU but this is a APU, which uses system ram to begin with. so, when you run out of the allocated vram, the OS just uses system ram but because the "vram" and system ram are the same, when it does use system ram you should see no difference in performance.
So, is there a point of increasing the vram amount on APUs like what's in the ally or steam deck?
Not really, setting it to 2-3GB should be enough, you really dont get any benefit from increasing it more apart from having less for the OS to use which could actually harm performance more once the OS runs out of ram (which lets be honest, its windows, you will run out of ram)
So can we just set the vram to 8gb and add virtual memory to offset on the system ram?
Sorry if i missed it, was this test on the Z1 Extreme or the regular Ally?
Hey it’s the z1 extreme.
One day we will see 1TB vram.
So it seems like there is some degree of improvement when using 5 even if it's just a little less stuttering. 6 seems like more of a toss-up.
Great video! How do you keep such low temps at that watt?? Please help 🙏🏻
Hey, it's just by keeping the watts lower. Also the room I'm in is usually decently cold which helps with temps. Using a program called G-Helper is also great as you can set any watt level you want and it'll stay right at that level. I have a video on it here: ruclips.net/video/-UPfsmZxLss/видео.html
Thx alot for an awesome video. How do you display your vram
I use a program called MSI Afterburner with RTSS. I don't have a guide on it, and it takes a little while to setup. There are a bunch of guides on RUclips though that will show you :)
I thought to myself is it worth going from 4gb to 5gb of vram for 1gb more, shouldn't it be better to go to 6gb to see a difference ??
The thing is, even just 4GB would actually work pretty good. But some games are limiting themselves to 3.2GB for some reason. So if the games actually used 4GB, I think 4GB would work pretty well across the board. Since they don't though, the 5GB option gives them the headroom. If you saw in the results though, even if you set 6GB, not many games at all even go over 4.5GB. But 5 or 6GB still work great, so I'd use whichever one you like :)
@@filt3rlessThanks for the explanation
How's the auto setting?
Auto works a lot better now and seems to have improved with certain BIOS updates. I've been thinking about doing an updated VRAM video, but just haven't had much time to put into the channel lately. I'd say give it a shot and see if it works for the games you play :)
do u recomend auto over other options now (for general use and most games)?@@filt3rless
Wish you had put the resolution at the top of the charts
neck what is better 4go, 8go, or car?
I have the impression that 4go remains the best balance... right?
I think 5GB is the best overall. If you play COD though, you need 8GB.
@@filt3rlessOk I will put 5go vram, thank you
@@filt3rless5g vram seems to me the perfect compromise
so do you have to change the vram, and restard windows everytime you want to play a game for example if i want to do 8G on COD and then play diablo i have to restart before playing diablo?
yes boss
honestly i never understand why the auto is always at 400mb.
It's basically where it'll share the ram between the CPU and GPU automatically. So it's getting more then the 400MB, that'd just the small dedicated about. However, I don't know how Asus is deciding what gets what amount of RAM. I'd assume they're giving priority to the system and then letting the GPU use what's left over, but I'm unclear on that. If I was building a system I think it'd be really hard to get Auto working, because of lot of games would try to request too much, and there isn't a set "give this game this amount". They'd almost have to fine tune auto for every game. I'm sure someone else knows a lot more about this though, but those are my thoughts, hope it helps :)
Any thoughts as to why D4 is bumping to 6Gb VRAM when settings are 6Gb but when going to 8Gb it goes back to 4?
When I set 6Gb I noticed less stuttering than 4Gb, but judging from your benchmarks it somewhat shows that 4Gb is king. Thoughts?
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It's such a strange result and I'm not sure why it does it. Some of the other games also use slightly more VRAM when they have less dedicated. To me what the Ally is doing is very odd, however, it's still working really well. I've been running 5GB and just playing games and it's been awesome! I think 5GB is the sweet spot (including Diablo 4). It allows the few games that seem to not want to use 4GB to actually get up to that, and even go past up to 5GB. If you play COD though, 8GB is the way to go 👍
Because the coding in the game are shit.the game is loading other players stash when you are close to them 😂😂😂
Hi, so you confirm that 5GB of Vram is better than 4GB ???
I don't think there is a best setting. It really depends on the games you play.
@@filt3rless I don't play COD
I tried replicating cod settings and it crashes for me
How do you fix a game when the screen goes black while the sound is still running in the background. Afterwards the game crashes stating “Unreal Engine is exiting due to D3D device being lost error hung”. Any advice on how to fix this problem? I’d greatly appreciate it 🙏🏻
What game and what VRAM do you have set?
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It’s a fan made game called “The Hike-Return to Crystal Lake”. I have the GPU at 4.
@@bozolozo21 Ohh, what I'd suspect then is it's because we still haven't got updated AMD drivers for it. One thing you could try is changing it to 8GB and see if that works. If not, I think it's going to be a graphics driver issue. Hopefully we get some updated ones soon.
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Yea I already tried that. It’s still the same unfortunately.
@@bozolozo21 Dang, yeah it's a driver issue most likely. Once the new driver comes out I'm going to be releasing a video on it and testing a bunch of games :)
bro, how did you add more system information under there? is that form another software?
It's from software called MSI Afterburner. I don't have a tutorial on the channel yet, but there are plenty out there that can show you how to get it setup :)
Great benchmarks, though I never pay attention to .1% lows in any benchmark. All it takes is one momentary stutter, be they traversal/loading, shader comp, or some other things going on with windows in the background and never represent real-world gameplay experience.
Thanks, and I agree. The 0.1% lows are a very loose number. Since I show the gameplay I leave it in there so when there is a big stutter we know how low it got. But I definitely don't think it's near as important as the AVG/1%.
@@filt3rless yeah, feels like reviewers and benchmarkers started throwing those in when performance during the last gen (3080ti and such) became powerful enough with a good build to brute force through just about anything. 🤣
@@xbradx75 I didn't even think about that... Make perfect sense as those can push ridiculous frames. In the future we'll start seeing .001% lows 🤣
in my case,
forza 5 in high with 4gb and 6gb performs both 60 fps, but with 6gb there is no stutters
What does vram and Gb actually do I’m still learning
How do you get your ally to run ultra on cod without crashing, mine crashes during a game and got it set on 8g ram. Do you have any solutions to fix the issue
I'd try lowering the settings down some. Also there is an option called "Memory Scale" that I have set to 85% so it will only use that amount, not sure if it matters, but it could make a difference.
I think 5 and 6 GB is looks the sweet spot
Same! I'm using 5GB right now and just got done playing some Horizon 5, very smooth and playable at 1080p - Medium - 15 Watts :)
Hmm? I'm currently running Diablo 4 locked to 60fps with 5GB VRam
How are u set it to 5gb? I dont see any 5gb option in armory crate settings.. only 4gb and 8gb..
Here is how you change it: ruclips.net/video/nhyXOqHHV7k/видео.html
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nice
i get lots of crashing at 5GB, still trying to figure it out
I have the same problem, did u fix it?
For some reason my system crashes or fully restarts when it’s set to 8gb
That is very strange, it almost sounds like you might have a RAM issue. It's working perfectly fine at 4GB though?
Does 8gb use more power? Would that be its only downside?
There shouldn't be any power difference between the amount of ram you use.
It’s really depends on every game 😂😭 for me auto works the best for horizon zero dawn and hogwart legacy
It definitely does, however, I found setting a dedicated GB limit usually nets better performance than Auto across a range of games (a lot more than just what I recorded in this video).
Great video . TLDR don’t use auto .
Which value in hwinfo shows vram usage?
I'm using MSI Afterburner and RTSS to show the statistics.
@@filt3rless which metric in msi after buner shows vram usage? GPU usage just shows the percentage
@@aadesh3474 Hey the labeling is off in MSI so right now it's the "Memory usage". Which usually would be system memory, however it's actually VRAM.
So Bro what ur best recommended vram?
I've been using 5GB and haven't switched it since making the video. If you run Call of Duty you'll need 8GB, but outside of that 5GB seems like a great option. I'm sure there are other games out there that will need more, but I haven't tested them yet.
@@filt3rless thank you so much dude, I appreciate it so much, may ur channel keep moving and god bless u
Can you test warzone?
Get the fsr 0.7.3 mod for fsr 3 NO GHOSTING