@lunastarwater9856 True, I use a quality drugstore, not just a drugstore. For exapmle L'Oréal everpure(bond repair shampoo and conditioner, and color caring leave in) kristin ess(clarifyingshampoo), ogx oils(coconut and argan), and for skin is cera ve (cream to foam cleanser, daily lotion and healing ointment) and vaseline(cocoa lip therapy.) If you are for some reason wondering, I have a dry scalp and skin. Edit: Also keep on mind diets take a huge role in skin and hair/scalp health, I'm not on a strict diet, but the diet I follow keeps me healthy, happy, and balanced.
hahahaha 😂 i was thinking the same I want them to discuss this topic so bad, He literally says sulfates from drug end shampoo are not the quality sulfates like high end shampoo
I stopped using pureology and redkin and i ise loreal bond treatment line its a dupe for redkin brand and 1/4 the price . Exact same ingredients and results . Pureology was 100$ a bottle so 200$ a month and it didnt do what it should have for 200$ . My kids ise it also so it didnt last bit a month .
@@tiffanychill8219 L'Oreal owns Redken, Pureology, and many other high end brands. They make dupes for the drugstore from those brands. I use a mix of L'Oreal, Dove, Tresseme, and a few high end products. My hair is the softest it's ever been ❤
I think so much of how healthy and beautiful someone’s hair/skin looks is down to their genetics! Obviously products have some effect…but I don’t hear people mentioning genetics that much
Here where I live everyone uses drugstore haircare products, it’s not even a question. Not many people have the money to go after high end products when it comes to cosmetics, and even if they do it’s just easier to go to the drugstore and pick up some shampoo and conditioner. And I feel like the most drugstore brands are doing a really good job lately!
i’ve been using pantene recently, and i’ve found that my hair is breaking (i don’t brush my hair when it’s wet), getting greasy faster(even if i double wash), and i just have more buildup. i used to love pantene, but my hair cant do it anymore
@@millichicaa I am using Lador at the moment, elizavecca, I'm fromand Beauty of Joseon. Lador kerarin is only with no harh sulfates and elizavecca is for hair.
I have Lador Perfect fill up, didn’t try drying my hair with normal hairdryer after using it, but with AirWrap I look like a broom. So I was blaming the product, but I think the only thing I should blame is Dyson, my hair simply doesn’t like it. It’s frizzy, even dryer. Seems like it needs more heat.
@@millichicaa well I have a problem but posted on another video beacuse this one talks more about silicones so I dont want to talk now on the other side. But I always used natural hair products I didnt have any problems I grew my hair like in two years from my neck line do boobs so its really bleached and long. Since i started using silicone oils fist this mise en scene perfect serum which was btw great price and awsome for my sister and cer-100 from elizavecca my hair started to break of and is really frizzy. Now i scared to use the oil which is new and started using last few days so I dont know what to do.
If you don’t mind me asking What is your hair type? I have type 3 thick curly and dry hair and i know its hard for products designed for Korean hair to work for hair like mine but I’m tempted lol
@@vanbriannemodel because she was still learning and has gained more knowledge on ingredients since she started studying to be a trichologist. And she’s mentioned this before too.
I have the Elizzavecca protein hair mask everyone should get it. It’s amazing. I also love native (not everyone does) but I love their shampoo so much! I also love herbal essence
I bought Pantene today because of the video you posted about it earlier last week! I'll let you know how it goes! I have long (to my tailbone) dry, naturally blonde hair and I would love it if I could take great care of my hair for much less! I have kids and inflation is real! Thanks!
I avoid silicones in shampoo because they leave my greasy hair feeling greasy. That said, I use it on conditioner. And sulphates are a most with hair as greasy as mine.
Oh yes they will. They have with me. I just say nothing. They also are trying to sell you their stock. Even if I wanted what they are selling it’s cheaper to use a coupon code or wait for a sale online.
I agree about this except for shampoos. I used Redken last night for the first time and it wasn't like anything I've ever used. I've been using drugstore shampoo my whole life and I'm not sure I'll ever go back after this. My hair has never felt this clean and the amount I had to use was probably 4-5 times less
High-end brands simply use more expensive alternatives to what is already available and proven effective at a lower price point in drugstore brands whilst turning up the free-from natural claims to the max to fit their marketing. So unless they come up with some original innovative ingredient like in Olaplex and change the way people do things high-end brands are not worth it.
Honestly someone is finally sayin it! My hair was healthiest when I used drugstore products. Seriously. Now everyone wants to overpay for things and it’s really not necessary. The only thing I splurged on back then was It’s a 10 because that was truly worth it
I swear I'm 75 years old and my hair used to look terrible now it is my pride and joy thanks to this young lady Abby Young I started using all the products she recommended and my hair is now the only thing left on my body that's any good lol ‼️❤
Fine naturally smooth hair isn't all it's cracked up to be just sayin. We get damaged WAY too easily, can't color/style without some breakage, bad water quality causes tangles and Mats up, tangles are daily challenge. It's like little kids hair, shiny & smooth when done but when it's not it's a rats nest
Can you please make a video on how to take care of your hair after a pony tail day? As a dancer I put my hair in tight buns and ponytails (they have to be tight) because well I have to! Can you give some tips and tricks on what to do afterward?
No need to be confused. I use a mixture of both. I use drug store shampoo and conditioner but more high end oils, serums and styling products. This works for me and I have long hair, fine and high lighted.
I’ve been using Pantene again and my hair is so soft and shiny , looking better than it’s looked in a long time, my hair just hasn’t looked it’s best the past few years since I’ve been using professional shampoos and I’ve tried quite a few different brands
the only difference between them for me is that high end products smell better. Still not worth the price difference so I’ll stick with my Pantene and Elvive❤️
They're all labeled differently but who are we really kidding.... they're all owned by the same shareholders using the same labs and producers. I do search out smaller family owned that seem to care more about the ingredients and the customer but if I do contribute to the corps I'm fine only giving them $6 instead of $60 for almost the same thing.
Why the hell did our hairdresser teachers at college tell us that drugstore/supermarket shampoo was 95% water and 5% actual product? And why did they gaslight us into thinking coating the hair is actually a bad thing? Damn. Give me the silicones alllll day!
Not all drugstore products are created equal, true. And just because some product doesn't work on me doesn't mean the product is bad-- sometimes it's just because the ingredients doesn't suit my need. For me personally i don't like Pantene, but Herbal Essences does great to my hair
I think that’s true for the most part but there are exceptions to the rule and that would be the necessaries hylauronic and niacinamide shampoo and the Paul mitchel lavender mint from the tea tree line
I don’t know who to believe 🤷🏻♀️ there’s this channel from the Blowout Professor. He always says that using professional shampoos makes the huge difference, and that drugstore shampoos will leave this oily texture no matter what
I used tresemme for years and years and had beautiful shiny healthy blonde hair. I switched to olaplex treatments and professional s+c for about a year after seeing a new hairdresser who told me my hair would benefit from it and my hair is damaged beyond repair. I’m still trying to grow out the frazzled split ended mess a year later because it’s too short to cut off.
i have waist length bleached hair & i find sulphate free is best in a shampoo, but Aldos conditioners are insane! i can even put some in after washing as a leave in & people always cone up to me to ask about it!!! seriously, get aldi conditioners!!!!
As a hair stylist for 15 years I can tell washing bleach out of hair what shampoo/conditioner you are using just by the way your hair responds to the bleach. Someone using Pantene or herbal essences hair will disintegrate right before my eyes but someone using better quality shampoo/conditioner will hold up 10x better. I don’t even have to ask my client when they are using I’ll be able to tell once that foil is pulled. I don’t recommend using drug store shampoo. Over high end.. It also helps that you never using curling irons on your hair. I am not sold on this. I don’t care to just sell products for commission.. I care
Abbey has been taking a trichology class and has said in a prior video that she has learned more and changed her views on some of her older videos where she may have said things she doesn’t particularly agree with now.
Exactly!!!! I spent a couple hundred dollars per her suggestions that high-end brands were necessary because of pH balance, etc. And she insisted that it was the only way to get healthy hair, and that it was how she got healthy hair. Now she’s completely contradicting herself. Have I just wasted all this money for nothing because an influencer is being paid by brands to promote their product? I don’t understand how you can completely and utterly contradict yourself like this.
@@SB-ny1pr live and learn? For whom exactly? I realize that no one was forcing me to buy products, but she was giving completely different information than she’s giving right now. That’s the problem that I have, is the complete 180. I’m going through breast cancer treatment and trying to save my waist length damaged hair. She claimed the only way to do that was with high-end products and pH balanced products. She claimed that only the high end products had proper pH. And said to stay away from drugstore products, if you were trying to heal your hair. Along with of course other advice, such as soft, scrunchies, pillowcases, hair oil, etc. she claimed that she healed her own hair from damage and breakage with these high end products. Now she is saying the exact opposite about drugstore brands and saying Pantene has essentially the same ingredients as like pureology for example. In essence, changing her entire hair history? I get why you’re trying to defend her, because you’re a fan and you love her. But I’m not attacking her. I have been a fan too, and I’ve watched all of her videos for over a year and I’m allowed to be disappointed and confused at the contradiction in advice. I’m financially strapped from medical bills… now I’m wondering if I wasted my money on expensive hair care for no reason. Can you possibly understand where I’m coming from? Like quite a lot of people on this and her other post, we are wondering the same thing. She’s here to give advice specifically on hair care… all we expect is honesty, integrity, and accountability. That’s not too much to ask. Especially when dealing with influencers who make money off of this. And thanks for singling me out when a ton of other people are confused as much as I am. Especially since this is far from how she was explaining dupes before. She specifically explained in prior posts that the dupes aren’t nearly as good and never will be as the top line products. Anyway, Please try to understand where someone is coming from and what they’re saying before you just assume their intent is to attack and your immediate reaction is to defend and attack back no matter what the situation is. ❤️ Peace to you, honestly. I just lost my breasts, I don’t need the stress. So I hope I explained that well enough and this is squashed. Lol
@@vanbriannemodel First let me say I am so sorry for all you have been through and pray that you’re cancer free now. I’m sorry you were offended by my response which I really didn’t intend for it to be an attack in any way. I’m not defending her just because I like her. I feel like at the time she made those claims they were her beliefs and her experience with the brands that helped her. She did say they were expensive but for her worth it because she only washes her hair like once a week. Everyone’s hair is different and unfortunately not everyone will have the same experience with a particular brand. Again, this is not to attack but she does always put a disclaimer that she is not a professional and that these are her opinions. She posted a video not too long ago addressing how since she’s taking a trichology class she has learned more and that is why she has changed her views. The hair care industry and beauty industry has made claims about “clean cosmetics” and how sulfates are bad for our hair and silicones and I’ve seen multiple RUclipsrs, not just influencers but estheticians and dermatologists, who say that sulfates aren’t bad and there really is no definition of clean beauty so what one brand claims is clean can be different from what another brand claims is clean. I guess what I’m trying to say is with science we’re always learning new things and even professionals and doctors find that after new studies they realize there are sometimes better treatments or they don’t recommend a product they used to. I’m really sorry that you spent a lot of money on products, especially if they didn’t work for you. I do hear a lot of good things about Pureology and I know it’s pricey because my daughter uses it. Abbey did do a dupe video for Pureology with the Kirkland brand moisture shampoo and conditioner, but she did show that it wasn’t exactly the same and Kirkland had some things Pureology didn’t and Vice Versa. I don’t think she said Pantene is a dupe but she did say for a while they got a bad rap because that’s when everything about sulfates and silicones had come out as being bad and Pantene contained them, but now they’ve learned that they’re not all bad. I hope that maybe explained things a little better and again I apologize if you thought my first response was an attack, I really didn’t intend it to be. I sincerely hope you’re ok and wish you the best with your recovery and your hair care journey.
I don’t understand then why you urged us a year ago to purchase shampoo and conditioner from companies like Pureology, which I did and cost me $70. All because you said back then that the pH of the shampoo and conditioner was absolutely the most important thing you can do for your hair, and that the high end products are the only ones that have proper pH levels. Now you never mention pH and are basically saying that these cheap drugstore brands are almost as good and make your hair look beautiful, when you claimed that you got your hair to where it is today by using products that have ingredients that drugstore brands don’t possess along with changing some of the ways that you treat your hair such as soft scrunchies, no high ponytails, etc etc. i’ve watched all of your videos for over a year now in an attempt to heal my waist length damaged hair, and your recent videos completely contradict your previous advice and explanation as to how your hair is as healthy as it is compared to what it was. I’m sorry, but this is incredibly frustrating and I’m just confused and baffled. I’m in the middle of breast cancer treatment and struggling financially with medical costs and attempting to still save my hair and now I’m wondering if the couple hundred I spent on hair care per your suggestions was never necessary? And if so, then how did you heal your hair from the photos you show from years ago to how beautiful it is now? Because in this current video, you’re showing how beautiful a five dollar shampoo has made your hair. I hope you and others are able to understand why I’m a little upset and frustrated?
She’s studying to be a trichologist now, and I think this is why her views on many things have changed; she just has new information that she didn’t have before. There is one category where more expensive brands were succeeding, and that’s bond builders. Those are the products that helped her hair recover from the bleach, and it wasn’t until recently that there were bond builders available in the drugstore. So combine her new knowledge with all of the innovations we’re seeing in drugstore haircare lines, and you get the basis for this video.
@@jjayjae_ That’s not exactly the issue for me. The issue of “clean beauty”, sulfates, and silicones, etc she has always given the same advice on, the same advice as scientists in the industry. I hold no issue with that. And the products that damaged my hair were the “dupes” that she was suggesting such as the OGX coconut oil, and the L’Oreal shampoo and conditioner she suggested, etc. Actually Pureology was doing nice things for my hair but I also took that suggestion from a chemist. However, she always warned that these cheap alternatives were not exact dupes, and if you really wanted truly healthy hair, you had to buy top line products. Which is what she claimed healed her own hair. My issue is that she used to agree with professionals and scientists in the industry who said that top line brands have better and more beneficial ingredients. She said that pH was THE most important thing in hair care. She hasn’t spoken about pH in quite a long time. And I take issue with her not doing videos explaining why such a sudden change in what she claimed was proven scientific fact. Now she’s not even calling brands like Pantene dupes. She’s claiming they are basically as good for your hair as top line products. Which wreaks of sponsorship to me because she’s holding every single shampoo and conditioner that Pantene produces and showing us that it has all the exact same ingredients as the top line brands. Maybe Pantene isn’t a terrible brand and it’s ok for some people? But how can she just erase what she claims is her own hair history, and what healed her own hair? She used to claim that brands like Pantene were one of the reasons her hair was damaged in the first place (as well as other general bad hair treatment), thus switched to top line and ta da! Beautiful hair! That’s my issue, the complete turnaround that she’s done is the reason that she was the last influencer that I even watch on RUclips. I’m afraid I’m just done with influencers. I’ve switched to all beauty chemists, dermatologists, etc. I don’t trust influencers. I work in the entertainment industry, and I know too much about how it functions. They make their living by promoting brands (the ads during their videos don’t pay anything). In order to make a living (which she does) by solely YouTubing, you have to endorse. And I’m just no longer interested in not being able to trust an influencers suggestions while having no idea which opinions are biased. And I think the age of the influencer is on its way out, because professionals have started their own channels, and are calling influencers out. So she’s smart to be studying for a degree (which I knew, and don’t understand why people keep pointing out to me since I’m watching all her videos too). However she’s still making her living off of endorsements. There is a learning curve for people like her without degrees, and perhaps she’s learned more. However she can’t claim to change her own personal hair history, and journey. And I’ve tried several “dupes” she’s recommended that caused a further 3 inches of breakage and damage to my waist length hair. I chopped it up to people’s hair being different. But at this point I really can’t afford anymore damage in my situation (currently fighting breast cancer) while she’s learning, or I’ll lose my hair completely, especially when I can watch a scientist who already knows the answers without having to google the ingredients list. I’m very happy if she is helping you and others in their hair journey, but from my own personal experience, and her recent videos, I’m just not on board anymore, and I’ve seen quite a few others with the same concerns. It also concerns me that a ton of women take what these influencers suggest as gospel, especially when very often a year later, whoops, that info was WAY off, or again, they are unaware it’s just a paid sponsorship. But it’s all good, to each their own, 😉. It’s no worries all around, she has plenty of followers and likely doesn’t even know or care about little ol’ me or my concerns, or whether I go. Haha. I understand from personal experience that once you get up into the 5 to 10 thousand digits or so range of fans you don’t notice nor care when some leave, more will follow. MY fans aren’t following me for advice or healthcare though. Thank God 🤣. As far as my Cancer journey, unfortunately I’m having bad complications since my Mastectomy which has been incredibly difficult, and at this point I’m just trying to survive it. A lot of people might think that my hair concerns are ridiculous in the face of Cancer or that I’m overreacting to her posts… but when you’ve been a professional career Model most of your life with waist length hair (relying on your looks essentially to make a living), losing your breasts is bad enough, and now I’m desperately trying to hold onto my hair. I literally can’t afford even the slightest possibility of bad hair advice right now, any more damage could quite literally push me over the edge, as I’m barely hanging on. A five dollar bottle of shampoo could ruin me, lol. I guess everything is a matter of perspective. 😊 So, no. I’m not going to rush right out to excitedly purchase Pantene like many women on here are doing as we speak 🤣. All the best to you in life and in your own hair journey my friend!
@@vanbriannemodel you keep repeating this everywhere. When people learn and have new knowledge and experiences, they will change what they’ve said. That’s how life works. End of the day you have to find the products that work for your hair type. No one told you to buy this or that and no one promised you results. It’s trial and error along with understanding your hair type, needs, goals, etc. She said what worked for HER hair, you copied and didn’t get the same results now you’re mad. You have health issues so that will affect your hair. You can’t expect the same results as anyone else. There is a difference between drugstore and salon quality hair products. I’ve used both and only the high end made my hair look and feel good.
@@Aphrodite01 I am so sorry to have offended you. It was not my intention at all, however, I just finished having a mastectomy, and in the middle of complications, and on heavy medication, regiment and treatments. It’s very difficult for me to think and process at the moment so conversations are very difficult for me thus I copy and paste a lot. I know that might be hard to understand, and I’m sorry. At the same time I have a different perspective from you and I started her hair treatments and suggestions before my cancer diagnosis, thus I’m not sure you understood what I was saying in my responses. I understand that different things work for different people, which I also stated in my responses. My issue is with her doing a 180 and not explaining it in a video about why she no longer believes in PH or her other perspectives. This is simply my opinion and you do not have to possess it. I have already moved on and people keep responding to me because they are upset and are fans of hers so people naturally defend her. I have also followed her for a year and a half. I’m very happy that she’s helping you, this just isn’t working for me and that’s OK too. But I do have every right to question influencers, and ask about their advice and perspectives especially if they change so significantly. I also cannot risk further damage to my hair as It’s hanging on by a thread, bald spot included. I’m not sure if many women on here understand what that’s like, and I do feel like I’m being attacked for simply stating that I’m confused and upset. I did it non aggressively, I did not attack her, and I’ve had civil conversations with others, who share the same opinion, but then people such as yourself thinking that I’m attacking her, and coming at me (perhaps it’s not what you intended) I just don’t share your view in regards to this matter. She’s here specifically to give hair advice and she’s admitted to giving bad hair advice in the past which is appreciated. I’ve just switched to watching professionals instead of influencers. It’s all good. I’m having an immensely difficult time at the moment and would appreciate if we could just move on and go our separate ways. I’m terrified of losing my breasts and now my hair, i honesty don’t need the stress of people yelling at me on RUclips because I politely questioned and/or disagreed with an influencer. My apologies once again for the misunderstanding and I hope you have a wonderful day!
I really hate when hair stylist/others think they know everything...🙄 How about: everyone is different? I've been using sulfates for at least 35 years, and my stylist always goes on to compliment how healthy my hair and scalp is. Saying that sulfates are "bad" is disingenuous. Not everyone's hair will react the same.
So you're saying I can save money and my hair would look the same or better if I switched back to my old faves from the ds? Excuse me while I run to Walmart 😂
I use those and prefer them over drugstore. Use what works for your hair type. Stick to what works don’t change it to something that may ruin your hair.
I think it depends on the hair type. Low porosity hair seems to benefit more from clean ingredients or natural products. I have low porosity hair and i once used Loreal fall resist conditioner. This left a waxy residue on my hair though it made it more manageable and less tangly.
Actually sulfates are bad for your hair (overtime). They are very drying to the hair and scalp. They can cause scalp irritation. Sulfates make my scalp very itchy. I have been sulfate free for many years. I’m a licensed cosmetologist.
Are you a licensed hairstylist?? If not, please stop giving hair advice to people. It's not just the silicone and plastics in hair care products as to why we advice people not to use drugstore brands. Who is the one that's cheering you on for your upcoming job interview and you want your hair to look good? Going through a rough breakup and needing some encouragement and want to look your best? Are you expecting a child and maybe nervous? That's right, Amazon, Walmart, Dollar General, etc. isn't going to do any of those things for you. But a stylist will🙂 When you buy hair products from a salon/stylist, you're supporting a local business and helping them out. Not all of them are money hungry people. We have bills to pay and months to feed also.
When I was using drugstore hair are I couldn’t grow my hair past my shoulders, my hair was super brittle and my scalp was always itchy... I’ve been using professional haircare (Redken) for 3 years now and my hair is to my butt 😅
Not to mention, she’s completely contradicting herself from what she said just a year ago, in insisting that high end brands were the only way to give you healthy hair because of pH balance, and such.
NOT TRUTH. For her straight hair is gonna be ok or just ok to use sulfate shampoo, she might not see or feel ir for some months maybe but definently is not scientifically healthy for hair, sulfate kills my natural hair, if she's in for a blowout or just brushing straight hair it won't be that noticeable, maybe a deep mask a few times gonna do the trick but is absolutely unnecessary damage. Also, the fake wax stuff she's referring to is SILICONES and it's literal make up for hair, it will fill out the cuticle till the next wash day instead of a protein that will strenghten it, but it eventually break and damage most types of hair on the long term. I have hips length natural hair and is ALL about the details and research, not short term but long term, Generalizing that drugstore is all bad is a LIE but don't mislead people. Actually, thr must important thing is to know what KIND of shampoo your hair needs at the time: hydrating, treatment, chelating or moisturizing, it comes in any price !
Finally, someone said it. I always had been using drugstore haircare and skincare, and my hair and skin are so frickin healthy.
Like yes some isn’t good but a majority isn’t bad
@lunastarwater9856 True, I use a quality drugstore, not just a drugstore. For exapmle L'Oréal everpure(bond repair shampoo and conditioner, and color caring leave in) kristin ess(clarifyingshampoo), ogx oils(coconut and argan), and for skin is cera ve (cream to foam cleanser, daily lotion and healing ointment) and vaseline(cocoa lip therapy.) If you are for some reason wondering, I have a dry scalp and skin.
Edit: Also keep on mind diets take a huge role in skin and hair/scalp health, I'm not on a strict diet, but the diet I follow keeps me healthy, happy, and balanced.
When I stopped using shampoo with sulfates is when my hair started going down hill.
Same and high end shampoos. I’ve been using Pureology for the last year and my hair just keeps falling out. I’m at a loss.
You and Chris Wentzel (Blow Dry Professor) need to talk. I’m not sure who to believe about this one…
hahahaha 😂 i was thinking the same I want them to discuss this topic so bad, He literally says sulfates from drug end shampoo are not the quality sulfates like high end shampoo
Right!
I stopped using pureology and redkin and i ise loreal bond treatment line its a dupe for redkin brand and 1/4 the price . Exact same ingredients and results . Pureology was 100$ a bottle so 200$ a month and it didnt do what it should have for 200$ . My kids ise it also so it didnt last bit a month .
All I know is that I tried all his stuff and it did nothing.
@@tiffanychill8219 L'Oreal owns Redken, Pureology, and many other high end brands. They make dupes for the drugstore from those brands. I use a mix of L'Oreal, Dove, Tresseme, and a few high end products. My hair is the softest it's ever been ❤
I think so much of how healthy and beautiful someone’s hair/skin looks is down to their genetics! Obviously products have some effect…but I don’t hear people mentioning genetics that much
I also think this plays an enormous role… that and age, health, etc.
genetics just define your hairtype. every hair can be healthy and strong
Yes! Genetics is the biggest factor of someone's hair health.
I think heat and bleach have the biggest impact overall (and sun for the skin)
Genetics third
Here where I live everyone uses drugstore haircare products, it’s not even a question. Not many people have the money to go after high end products when it comes to cosmetics, and even if they do it’s just easier to go to the drugstore and pick up some shampoo and conditioner. And I feel like the most drugstore brands are doing a really good job lately!
i’ve been using pantene recently, and i’ve found that my hair is breaking (i don’t brush my hair when it’s wet), getting greasy faster(even if i double wash), and i just have more buildup. i used to love pantene, but my hair cant do it anymore
Started using korean haircare and skincare brands with silicones omg I am never turning back at least 3 products at my shelf🍰
Which Korean brands for hair are you using?
@@millichicaa I am using Lador at the moment, elizavecca, I'm fromand Beauty of Joseon. Lador kerarin is only with no harh sulfates and elizavecca is for hair.
I have Lador Perfect fill up, didn’t try drying my hair with normal hairdryer after using it, but with AirWrap I look like a broom. So I was blaming the product, but I think the only thing I should blame is Dyson, my hair simply doesn’t like it. It’s frizzy, even dryer. Seems like it needs more heat.
@@millichicaa well I have a problem but posted on another video beacuse this one talks more about silicones so I dont want to talk now on the other side. But I always used natural hair products I didnt have any problems I grew my hair like in two years from my neck line do boobs so its really bleached and long. Since i started using silicone oils fist this mise en scene perfect serum which was btw great price and awsome for my sister and cer-100 from elizavecca my hair started to break of and is really frizzy. Now i scared to use the oil which is new and started using last few days so I dont know what to do.
If you don’t mind me asking
What is your hair type? I have type 3 thick curly and dry hair and i know its hard for products designed for Korean hair to work for hair like mine but I’m tempted lol
Who do I believe so many people in the internet say diffent things😂
Not to mention she said, the exact opposite in her videos from just a year ago. I’m baffled.
@@vanbriannemodel because she was still learning and has gained more knowledge on ingredients since she started studying to be a trichologist. And she’s mentioned this before too.
I know right. I got sucked in and now I don’t believe any of them.
Drop your new drugstore routine ❤
I have the Elizzavecca protein hair mask everyone should get it. It’s amazing. I also love native (not everyone does) but I love their shampoo so much! I also love herbal essence
You’re the hyram of hair care! thank you!
I just LOVE my Kerastase. I get your point, but I like expensive hair care better than drug store products.
I bought Pantene today because of the video you posted about it earlier last week! I'll let you know how it goes! I have long (to my tailbone) dry, naturally blonde hair and I would love it if I could take great care of my hair for much less! I have kids and inflation is real! Thanks!
I avoid silicones in shampoo because they leave my greasy hair feeling greasy. That said, I use it on conditioner. And sulphates are a most with hair as greasy as mine.
Thank you! I stay fibbing to my hair dressers about using nice shampoo 😅 I’m so afraid they will judge me
Yes, they do judge you. It's ridiculous.
Oh yes they will. They have with me. I just say nothing. They also are trying to sell you their stock. Even if I wanted what they are selling it’s cheaper to use a coupon code or wait for a sale online.
They will for sure. They always say they can tell
The British voice filter is sending me tho
I starting buying drugstore hair products. My hair looks just as good. Thank you.
I agree about this except for shampoos. I used Redken last night for the first time and it wasn't like anything I've ever used. I've been using drugstore shampoo my whole life and I'm not sure I'll ever go back after this. My hair has never felt this clean and the amount I had to use was probably 4-5 times less
I love my drugstore products. Specifically my Tresemme Biotin Repair +7. Best deep conditioner ever.
High-end brands simply use more expensive alternatives to what is already available and proven effective at a lower price point in drugstore brands whilst turning up the free-from natural claims to the max to fit their marketing. So unless they come up with some original innovative ingredient like in Olaplex and change the way people do things high-end brands are not worth it.
Honestly someone is finally sayin it! My hair was healthiest when I used drugstore products. Seriously. Now everyone wants to overpay for things and it’s really not necessary. The only thing I splurged on back then was It’s a 10 because that was truly worth it
I swear I'm 75 years old and my hair used to look terrible now it is my pride and joy thanks to this young lady Abby Young I started using all the products she recommended and my hair is now the only thing left on my body that's any good lol ‼️❤
let’s not forget that she has fine naturally smooth hair and probably gets keratin treatments done.
Fine naturally smooth hair isn't all it's cracked up to be just sayin. We get damaged WAY too easily, can't color/style without some breakage, bad water quality causes tangles and Mats up, tangles are daily challenge. It's like little kids hair, shiny & smooth when done but when it's not it's a rats nest
Yeah, and also the plastic-silicon scent on your head is amazing too.
You have such pretty hair
Can you please make a video on how to take care of your hair after a pony tail day? As a dancer I put my hair in tight buns and ponytails (they have to be tight) because well I have to! Can you give some tips and tricks on what to do afterward?
i m so confused right now..
No need to be confused. I use a mixture of both. I use drug store shampoo and conditioner but more high end oils, serums and styling products. This works for me and I have long hair, fine and high lighted.
I’ve been using Pantene again and my hair is so soft and shiny , looking better than it’s looked in a long time, my hair just hasn’t looked it’s best the past few years since I’ve been using professional shampoos and I’ve tried quite a few different brands
Thing is the formula isn’t bad for your hair at all it’s just that the drugstore and most mainstream brands aren’t really the best for the environment
my hair hates tresemme, idk why but my hair is always dry after using. I prefer loreal or garnier
the only difference between them for me is that high end products smell better. Still not worth the price difference so I’ll stick with my Pantene and Elvive❤️
YESSS DRUGSTORE PRODUCTS ARE MADE ON THE SAME PRODUCTION LINES AS THE MOST LUXURIOUS PRODUCTS
I always have to wonder what the drugstore haircare bashers are trying to sell. That virtually always happens.
What about for curly hair?
They're all labeled differently but who are we really kidding.... they're all owned by the same shareholders using the same labs and producers. I do search out smaller family owned that seem to care more about the ingredients and the customer but if I do contribute to the corps I'm fine only giving them $6 instead of $60 for almost the same thing.
Why the hell did our hairdresser teachers at college tell us that drugstore/supermarket shampoo was 95% water and 5% actual product? And why did they gaslight us into thinking coating the hair is actually a bad thing? Damn. Give me the silicones alllll day!
I’ve been using sulfate-free shampoo for over a decade now and my hair misses it lol can’t wait til my shampoo runs out so I can be reunited with sls
What about for colored hair i noticed they strip color more
Not all drugstore products are created equal, true. And just because some product doesn't work on me doesn't mean the product is bad-- sometimes it's just because the ingredients doesn't suit my need. For me personally i don't like Pantene, but Herbal Essences does great to my hair
drugstore products made my coarse curls completely dry, broken and dull. this might be true for people with straight hair
I have wavy hair and experienced the same thing too :( or it made my hair extremely greasy lol.
I think that’s true for the most part but there are exceptions to the rule and that would be the necessaries hylauronic and niacinamide shampoo and the Paul mitchel lavender mint from the tea tree line
I don’t know who to believe 🤷🏻♀️ there’s this channel from the Blowout Professor. He always says that using professional shampoos makes the huge difference, and that drugstore shampoos will leave this oily texture no matter what
I agree. I wish each product had a small bottle to try so that it wasn’t so expensive to buy something that doesn’t work for you.
I used tresemme for years and years and had beautiful shiny healthy blonde hair. I switched to olaplex treatments and professional s+c for about a year after seeing a new hairdresser who told me my hair would benefit from it and my hair is damaged beyond repair. I’m still trying to grow out the frazzled split ended mess a year later because it’s too short to cut off.
Can u please recommend some good drug store shampoos for flat sort of oily hair thank you !
What about for my hair extensions please need help finding a great hair routine for my new beaded head
i agree but wasnt tresemme having a lawsuit bc people lost alot of hair after using something from them?
i have waist length bleached hair & i find sulphate free is best in a shampoo, but Aldos conditioners are insane! i can even put some in after washing as a leave in & people always cone up to me to ask about it!!! seriously, get aldi conditioners!!!!
As a hair stylist for 15 years I can tell washing bleach out of hair what shampoo/conditioner you are using just by the way your hair responds to the bleach. Someone using Pantene or herbal essences hair will disintegrate right before my eyes but someone using better quality shampoo/conditioner will hold up 10x better. I don’t even have to ask my client when they are using I’ll be able to tell once that foil is pulled. I don’t recommend using drug store shampoo. Over high end.. It also helps that you never using curling irons on your hair. I am not sold on this. I don’t care to just sell products for commission.. I care
why the switch up? wouldn’t she always promote the high end and bash the the drugstore ones?
Abbey has been taking a trichology class and has said in a prior video that she has learned more and changed her views on some of her older videos where she may have said things she doesn’t particularly agree with now.
Exactly!!!! I spent a couple hundred dollars per her suggestions that high-end brands were necessary because of pH balance, etc. And she insisted that it was the only way to get healthy hair, and that it was how she got healthy hair. Now she’s completely contradicting herself. Have I just wasted all this money for nothing because an influencer is being paid by brands to promote their product? I don’t understand how you can completely and utterly contradict yourself like this.
@@vanbriannemodel It’s called live and learn. It’s not like she was forcing anyone to buy the high end brands and she has done drugstore dupes before.
@@SB-ny1pr live and learn? For whom exactly? I realize that no one was forcing me to buy products, but she was giving completely different information than she’s giving right now. That’s the problem that I have, is the complete 180. I’m going through breast cancer treatment and trying to save my waist length damaged hair. She claimed the only way to do that was with high-end products and pH balanced products. She claimed that only the high end products had proper pH. And said to stay away from drugstore products, if you were trying to heal your hair. Along with of course other advice, such as soft, scrunchies, pillowcases, hair oil, etc. she claimed that she healed her own hair from damage and breakage with these high end products. Now she is saying the exact opposite about drugstore brands and saying Pantene has essentially the same ingredients as like pureology for example. In essence, changing her entire hair history? I get why you’re trying to defend her, because you’re a fan and you love her. But I’m not attacking her. I have been a fan too, and I’ve watched all of her videos for over a year and I’m allowed to be disappointed and confused at the contradiction in advice. I’m financially strapped from medical bills… now I’m wondering if I wasted my money on expensive hair care for no reason. Can you possibly understand where I’m coming from? Like quite a lot of people on this and her other post, we are wondering the same thing. She’s here to give advice specifically on hair care… all we expect is honesty, integrity, and accountability. That’s not too much to ask. Especially when dealing with influencers who make money off of this. And thanks for singling me out when a ton of other people are confused as much as I am. Especially since this is far from how she was explaining dupes before. She specifically explained in prior posts that the dupes aren’t nearly as good and never will be as the top line products. Anyway, Please try to understand where someone is coming from and what they’re saying before you just assume their intent is to attack and your immediate reaction is to defend and attack back no matter what the situation is. ❤️ Peace to you, honestly. I just lost my breasts, I don’t need the stress. So I hope I explained that well enough and this is squashed. Lol
@@vanbriannemodel First let me say I am so sorry for all you have been through and pray that you’re cancer free now. I’m sorry you were offended by my response which I really didn’t intend for it to be an attack in any way. I’m not defending her just because I like her. I feel like at the time she made those claims they were her beliefs and her experience with the brands that helped her. She did say they were expensive but for her worth it because she only washes her hair like once a week. Everyone’s hair is different and unfortunately not everyone will have the same experience with a particular brand. Again, this is not to attack but she does always put a disclaimer that she is not a professional and that these are her opinions. She posted a video not too long ago addressing how since she’s taking a trichology class she has learned more and that is why she has changed her views. The hair care industry and beauty industry has made claims about “clean cosmetics” and how sulfates are bad for our hair and silicones and I’ve seen multiple RUclipsrs, not just influencers but estheticians and dermatologists, who say that sulfates aren’t bad and there really is no definition of clean beauty so what one brand claims is clean can be different from what another brand claims is clean. I guess what I’m trying to say is with science we’re always learning new things and even professionals and doctors find that after new studies they realize there are sometimes better treatments or they don’t recommend a product they used to. I’m really sorry that you spent a lot of money on products, especially if they didn’t work for you. I do hear a lot of good things about Pureology and I know it’s pricey because my daughter uses it. Abbey did do a dupe video for Pureology with the Kirkland brand moisture shampoo and conditioner, but she did show that it wasn’t exactly the same and Kirkland had some things Pureology didn’t and Vice Versa. I don’t think she said Pantene is a dupe but she did say for a while they got a bad rap because that’s when everything about sulfates and silicones had come out as being bad and Pantene contained them, but now they’ve learned that they’re not all bad. I hope that maybe explained things a little better and again I apologize if you thought my first response was an attack, I really didn’t intend it to be. I sincerely hope you’re ok and wish you the best with your recovery and your hair care journey.
I don’t understand then why you urged us a year ago to purchase shampoo and conditioner from companies like Pureology, which I did and cost me $70. All because you said back then that the pH of the shampoo and conditioner was absolutely the most important thing you can do for your hair, and that the high end products are the only ones that have proper pH levels. Now you never mention pH and are basically saying that these cheap drugstore brands are almost as good and make your hair look beautiful, when you claimed that you got your hair to where it is today by using products that have ingredients that drugstore brands don’t possess along with changing some of the ways that you treat your hair such as soft scrunchies, no high ponytails, etc etc. i’ve watched all of your videos for over a year now in an attempt to heal my waist length damaged hair, and your recent videos completely contradict your previous advice and explanation as to how your hair is as healthy as it is compared to what it was. I’m sorry, but this is incredibly frustrating and I’m just confused and baffled. I’m in the middle of breast cancer treatment and struggling financially with medical costs and attempting to still save my hair and now I’m wondering if the couple hundred I spent on hair care per your suggestions was never necessary? And if so, then how did you heal your hair from the photos you show from years ago to how beautiful it is now? Because in this current video, you’re showing how beautiful a five dollar shampoo has made your hair. I hope you and others are able to understand why I’m a little upset and frustrated?
She’s studying to be a trichologist now, and I think this is why her views on many things have changed; she just has new information that she didn’t have before. There is one category where more expensive brands were succeeding, and that’s bond builders. Those are the products that helped her hair recover from the bleach, and it wasn’t until recently that there were bond builders available in the drugstore. So combine her new knowledge with all of the innovations we’re seeing in drugstore haircare lines, and you get the basis for this video.
@@jjayjae_ That’s not exactly the issue for me. The issue of “clean beauty”, sulfates, and silicones, etc she has always given the same advice on, the same advice as scientists in the industry. I hold no issue with that. And the products that damaged my hair were the “dupes” that she was suggesting such as the OGX coconut oil, and the L’Oreal shampoo and conditioner she suggested, etc. Actually Pureology was doing nice things for my hair but I also took that suggestion from a chemist. However, she always warned that these cheap alternatives were not exact dupes, and if you really wanted truly healthy hair, you had to buy top line products. Which is what she claimed healed her own hair. My issue is that she used to agree with professionals and scientists in the industry who said that top line brands have better and more beneficial ingredients. She said that pH was THE most important thing in hair care. She hasn’t spoken about pH in quite a long time. And I take issue with her not doing videos explaining why such a sudden change in what she claimed was proven scientific fact. Now she’s not even calling brands like Pantene dupes. She’s claiming they are basically as good for your hair as top line products. Which wreaks of sponsorship to me because she’s holding every single shampoo and conditioner that Pantene produces and showing us that it has all the exact same ingredients as the top line brands. Maybe Pantene isn’t a terrible brand and it’s ok for some people? But how can she just erase what she claims is her own hair history, and what healed her own hair? She used to claim that brands like Pantene were one of the reasons her hair was damaged in the first place (as well as other general bad hair treatment), thus switched to top line and ta da! Beautiful hair! That’s my issue, the complete turnaround that she’s done is the reason that she was the last influencer that I even watch on RUclips. I’m afraid I’m just done with influencers. I’ve switched to all beauty chemists, dermatologists, etc. I don’t trust influencers. I work in the entertainment industry, and I know too much about how it functions. They make their living by promoting brands (the ads during their videos don’t pay anything). In order to make a living (which she does) by solely YouTubing, you have to endorse. And I’m just no longer interested in not being able to trust an influencers suggestions while having no idea which opinions are biased. And I think the age of the influencer is on its way out, because professionals have started their own channels, and are calling influencers out. So she’s smart to be studying for a degree (which I knew, and don’t understand why people keep pointing out to me since I’m watching all her videos too). However she’s still making her living off of endorsements. There is a learning curve for people like her without degrees, and perhaps she’s learned more. However she can’t claim to change her own personal hair history, and journey. And I’ve tried several “dupes” she’s recommended that caused a further 3 inches of breakage and damage to my waist length hair. I chopped it up to people’s hair being different. But at this point I really can’t afford anymore damage in my situation (currently fighting breast cancer) while she’s learning, or I’ll lose my hair completely, especially when I can watch a scientist who already knows the answers without having to google the ingredients list. I’m very happy if she is helping you and others in their hair journey, but from my own personal experience, and her recent videos, I’m just not on board anymore, and I’ve seen quite a few others with the same concerns. It also concerns me that a ton of women take what these influencers suggest as gospel, especially when very often a year later, whoops, that info was WAY off, or again, they are unaware it’s just a paid sponsorship. But it’s all good, to each their own, 😉. It’s no worries all around, she has plenty of followers and likely doesn’t even know or care about little ol’ me or my concerns, or whether I go. Haha. I understand from personal experience that once you get up into the 5 to 10 thousand digits or so range of fans you don’t notice nor care when some leave, more will follow. MY fans aren’t following me for advice or healthcare though. Thank God 🤣. As far as my Cancer journey, unfortunately I’m having bad complications since my Mastectomy which has been incredibly difficult, and at this point I’m just trying to survive it. A lot of people might think that my hair concerns are ridiculous in the face of Cancer or that I’m overreacting to her posts… but when you’ve been a professional career Model most of your life with waist length hair (relying on your looks essentially to make a living), losing your breasts is bad enough, and now I’m desperately trying to hold onto my hair. I literally can’t afford even the slightest possibility of bad hair advice right now, any more damage could quite literally push me over the edge, as I’m barely hanging on. A five dollar bottle of shampoo could ruin me, lol. I guess everything is a matter of perspective. 😊 So, no. I’m not going to rush right out to excitedly purchase Pantene like many women on here are doing as we speak 🤣.
All the best to you in life and in your own hair journey my friend!
@@vanbriannemodel you keep repeating this everywhere. When people learn and have new knowledge and experiences, they will change what they’ve said. That’s how life works. End of the day you have to find the products that work for your hair type. No one told you to buy this or that and no one promised you results. It’s trial and error along with understanding your hair type, needs, goals, etc. She said what worked for HER hair, you copied and didn’t get the same results now you’re mad. You have health issues so that will affect your hair. You can’t expect the same results as anyone else. There is a difference between drugstore and salon quality hair products. I’ve used both and only the high end made my hair look and feel good.
@@Aphrodite01 I am so sorry to have offended you. It was not my intention at all, however, I just finished having a mastectomy, and in the middle of complications, and on heavy medication, regiment and treatments. It’s very difficult for me to think and process at the moment so conversations are very difficult for me thus I copy and paste a lot. I know that might be hard to understand, and I’m sorry. At the same time I have a different perspective from you and I started her hair treatments and suggestions before my cancer diagnosis, thus I’m not sure you understood what I was saying in my responses. I understand that different things work for different people, which I also stated in my responses. My issue is with her doing a 180 and not explaining it in a video about why she no longer believes in PH or her other perspectives. This is simply my opinion and you do not have to possess it. I have already moved on and people keep responding to me because they are upset and are fans of hers so people naturally defend her. I have also followed her for a year and a half. I’m very happy that she’s helping you, this just isn’t working for me and that’s OK too. But I do have every right to question influencers, and ask about their advice and perspectives especially if they change so significantly.
I also cannot risk further damage to my hair as It’s hanging on by a thread, bald spot included. I’m not sure if many women on here understand what that’s like, and I do feel like I’m being attacked for simply stating that I’m confused and upset. I did it non aggressively, I did not attack her, and I’ve had civil conversations with others, who share the same opinion, but then people such as yourself thinking that I’m attacking her, and coming at me (perhaps it’s not what you intended) I just don’t share your view in regards to this matter. She’s here specifically to give hair advice and she’s admitted to giving bad hair advice in the past which is appreciated. I’ve just switched to watching professionals instead of influencers. It’s all good. I’m having an immensely difficult time at the moment and would appreciate if we could just move on and go our separate ways. I’m terrified of losing my breasts and now my hair, i honesty don’t need the stress of people yelling at me on RUclips because I politely questioned and/or disagreed with an influencer. My apologies once again for the misunderstanding and I hope you have a wonderful day!
If you have hair like yours they are okay, but for fine, fragile, color treated hair they are a nightmare.
She has colour treated hair.
For me it’s really not about high ends Vs drugstore
It’s about getting an allergic reaction after using drugstore shampoo
I really hate when hair stylist/others think they know everything...🙄 How about: everyone is different? I've been using sulfates for at least 35 years, and my stylist always goes on to compliment how healthy my hair and scalp is. Saying that sulfates are "bad" is disingenuous. Not everyone's hair will react the same.
So you're saying I can save money and my hair would look the same or better if I switched back to my old faves from the ds? Excuse me while I run to Walmart 😂
Does this mean pureology and redken are not as good as drugstore? Or am I still okay to use those over drugstore?
I use those and prefer them over drugstore. Use what works for your hair type. Stick to what works don’t change it to something that may ruin your hair.
I think it depends on the hair type. Low porosity hair seems to benefit more from clean ingredients or natural products. I have low porosity hair and i once used Loreal fall resist conditioner. This left a waxy residue on my hair though it made it more manageable and less tangly.
That brand gives me bacne though
Packaging & advertising
Can you address the claim that high end products have better quality silicones?
Which she has stated herself
Actually sulfates are bad for your hair (overtime). They are very drying to the hair and scalp. They can cause scalp irritation. Sulfates make my scalp very itchy. I have been sulfate free for many years. I’m a licensed cosmetologist.
Thank God cause I definitely can’t buy high end 😊
Are you a licensed hairstylist??
If not, please stop giving hair advice to people. It's not just the silicone and plastics in hair care products as to why we advice people not to use drugstore brands.
Who is the one that's cheering you on for your upcoming job interview and you want your hair to look good?
Going through a rough breakup and needing some encouragement and want to look your best?
Are you expecting a child and maybe nervous?
That's right, Amazon, Walmart, Dollar General, etc. isn't going to do any of those things for you. But a stylist will🙂 When you buy hair products from a salon/stylist, you're supporting a local business and helping them out. Not all of them are money hungry people. We have bills to pay and months to feed also.
It's not only about hair. It's also about your health.
I'm so sick of scare propaganda
When I was using drugstore hair are I couldn’t grow my hair past my shoulders, my hair was super brittle and my scalp was always itchy... I’ve been using professional haircare (Redken) for 3 years now and my hair is to my butt 😅
I disagree,drugstore schampoo and condotiomer is very bad
When they send high end products at drugstores:👁️👄👁️
Cuz they literally have Gucci at the pharmacy no kidding
Well… they might make your hair look nice but they still have toxic ingredients…
So true!
Not to mention, she’s completely contradicting herself from what she said just a year ago, in insisting that high end brands were the only way to give you healthy hair because of pH balance, and such.
I am a L’Oréal fan 👍🏻
NOT TRUTH. For her straight hair is gonna be ok or just ok to use sulfate shampoo, she might not see or feel ir for some months maybe but definently is not scientifically healthy for hair, sulfate kills my natural hair, if she's in for a blowout or just brushing straight hair it won't be that noticeable, maybe a deep mask a few times gonna do the trick but is absolutely unnecessary damage.
Also, the fake wax stuff she's referring to is SILICONES and it's literal make up for hair, it will fill out the cuticle till the next wash day instead of a protein that will strenghten it, but it eventually break and damage most types of hair on the long term.
I have hips length natural hair and is ALL about the details and research, not short term but long term,
Generalizing that drugstore is all bad is a LIE but don't mislead people.
Actually, thr must important thing is to know what KIND of shampoo your hair needs at the time: hydrating, treatment, chelating or moisturizing, it comes in any price !