Sea Wolves - Vendee Globe 2020 report - Linked out and Hugo Boss - Dogfight for the lead!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Is Alex's Thomson having some mysterious problems with the Beast? Will Linked out finally catch up with the leader? As the tumble for the cape continues, nothings seems sure, the one thing we can count on is: coffee, or thee or another delicious beverage of you choice and coming together with
the other Sea Wolves from all over, to discuss all the latest excitement from the Vendee Globe 2020 race around the world.
kojiro shirashi seems to have fixed his main sail and is finally starting to make some headway, while still doing some last repairs. Charal is back on her way, how is Jemery doing? Also an update on the upcoming America's cup battle!
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When looking at the ALEX tab on the AlexThomsonSailing website, you can also see that Alex has been catching up on his sleep over the last 24 hours. This could also help explaining his recent slower speeds. Now that Alex is well rested, he is again going quite fast (close to 22 kts on average)
I think this is mostly the answer. Nearly 6 hours sleep.
The other part is quoted from @Flaming, who seems to know his stuff. Quote: The conditions they are in, moderate air reaching, are the absolute sweet spot for the boats like linked out and Apivia with their massive foils. In contrast HB has smaller foils more optimised for downwind conditions. My suspicion is simply that right now they are a bit quicker, but once they catch the Westerlies and turn East for, oh, about 9000 miles to Cape horn HB should be faster.
oh yes - you're right- I also was thinking that he should use the close to perfect sailing conditions to have some sleep. And As I said - stronger wind was coming from behind - last 4 days.
Wow. You are taking this coverage and insight on 'The Vendee Globe' to the next level. I am learning a lot. You deserve a medal. I am now a serious follower. I appreciate your fine work and good spirit. Best regards from Denmark.
Watching Alex and the winds to the south, I was pretty sure he was just sticking to a course to take him to the best wind. This is a loooooong race, if he goes a little slower now to get some decent sleep, then more power to him. And I’m a big fan of safety on board - I wear a SARSAT beacon on my PFD, and use jack lines when the weather gets nasty. I can think of few uglier ways to die than floating in the water behind your boat, watching it recede into the distance on autopilot. Great show as always!
If he falls off his boat, the remote control recognises the increasing distance and that he’s off the bot and puts the boat head to wind...hopefully he’s not more than 100m away
Absolutely - worst thing that can happen is you falling over board and seeing you boat sail away ... some sailors also racers are still rather macho ... but one of the better sailors of its generation (Tabarly) fell(/pushed by a spar )overboard ...
Crew safety is up to the skipper of course. On our doublehanded circumnavigation, we used safety lines when we were alone on deck at night and when we went forward in rough weather. I can't recall ever taking my security on the boat for granted. Paul Cayard has said that, and I'm paraphrasing, all of the crew on watch when racing offshore should be tethered at all times. A lot also has to do with how carefully you design the jackline system. If you use 3-ft. tether, you can, in most parts of the boat, make it so that the tether will not allow you to go overboard. Of course, this is impossible right at the bow and there is obviously a downside in mobility. But no one should consider it a sign of a lack of courage to use any and all safety precautions, or alternatively, a sign of recklessness to go without. Anytime you go offshore, there is no possibility of absolutely guaranteeing safety no matter what you do.
yes I agree completely
“The Sailing Frenchman” you mentioned is Hugo Picard. Great name for a potential VG sailor! Hugo is currently preparing for next year’s Mini Transat; it’s interesting to note that 18 of the current VG sailors come from a Mini background. Hugo is looking for help preparing for the Mini, whilst looking for a Title Sponsor, so if you’d like to be a part of helping a future VG winner progress then I’d encourage you to check out his RUclips channel and consider supporting him. Also, he’s a First Mate (AQP) in the current (postponed) Clipper Race.
Have followed him for a while and I would love to see him enter the VG
You are so right when you speak about the safety lines and the lifejackets I did single handed France New Zealand with Heremoana RM 1270 and I prefer to take care about what I will do and how I will do and avoiding to go in the front of the boat when the weather is not good then wearing a safety line without thinking that it is dangerous. When you are hanging in the water maintained by your safety lines with more than 2 knt of speed it’s impossible to go back into the boat so it’s better to not fall into the water and do everything which possible to do to avoid to go in dangerous situation out of the cockpit and it is possible when you have a good equipped boat. Thank you so much for your nice and well documented videos
Great video. Very informative. I had assumed that the sailors were communicating with their teams the whole time and making route and sail decisions together so thank you for the education! Looking forward to your coverage of the America’s Cup.
The race director says they sign a gentlemen's agreement letter before racing to refrain from outside assistance. He is also a silent party to their WhatsApp chats and will step in if he thinks they are assisting too much. I might use a code though. "Your 3rd aunt from down south wishes you luck" etc... 🤪
Alex is no fool, the race is long, going to be a brilliant race
Fascinating bit of racing right now. Thank you for the insights.
Really enjoying your enthusiastic and informative insights - great stuff - I'll be with you till the end!
Thank you so much for this content. Being English I have big hopes for Alex but also want to see all sailors rewarded for their efforts. Keep updating, your knowledge is a great interest in me keeping coming back to your channel. Many thanks, all the best 👍👍👍
can't wait for the America's Cup commentary as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so thrilled. Thank you!
Your logic about safety lines is correct. i would only add that you should be hooked up at night because in darkness you cannot see much and most of the waves take you by surprise.
yes
That’s great your going to do coverage of America’s Cup. Look forward to it..!
Thanks for the video, Its nice learning about this great race, test of human an boat endurance, as a high performance motoryacht skipper ,never thought I would get into sailing but very similar in many ways, running fast day and night takes its toll on your body and no one to take your watch ever, awsome!
big respect form me to a competitors and teams
THANK YOU VERY MUCH -.... MASTER....FOR SUBTITLES....I APRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION...GREETING FROM PATAGONIA
Thanks for adding the sneaky drop of 'something stronger' to your coffee...in celebration of crossing the Equator, no doubt?
yup :) hehe
Coffe with a little sniff! Nice work.
Another great video! I’ve never watched the America’s Cup but planned to for the first time this year. So glad that you’ll be providing some analysis. (And The Sailing Frenchman’s name is Hugo Picard-like you, another cool cat of the sailing world!)
Thank you so much for providing us with updates Florian!
I'm like the channel, Florian. I just signed my contract to do the complete circumnavigation in the 2022-2023 Clipper race, so am really enjoying the race analysis. Thank you!
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He’s trying to get off the wind as fast as possible, and the wind angle is farther north in Alex’s western position, looking at the most recent update, he is already putting up a higher avg speed and distance than Thomas Ruyant, and I expect that to continue as he goes farther south. He also said in a recent update that he has been catching up on sleep before going into the southern ocean, so he hasn’t been at his speed limit for the past few days. Everyone always counts Alex out, but nobody in this race wants to win more than him.
Edit: if you look at the 2016 race line, this is a near identical course to what Alex and Armel sailed in 2016, and clearly that was pretty quick since Armel set the course record.
@Roelf Woldring I think you're right about the sleep. He mentioned waking up to some alarm and realising he could be carrying more sail, but made himself go back to sleep. He seems to want to take a hit now to be fresh and recovered in the Southern Ocean. That's when a lack of sleep will really start to show. He's just not pushing the boat full on at the moment. He worked through the doldrums and this is just the catch up time.
John Kretschmer said something along the lines of: "Its my responsibility to get the boat there safely, Its your responsibility to stay on the boat."
Marcus Hutchinson, the team leader for Linked Out, was speaking of this on the lunchtime English Live show, and he pointed to performance differences between different designs (foils, sailplan, hull) at different points of sailing. I guess they will also be optimised for various sea states too.
A good life line it's a line than you can`t feel out of the boat.
I think you mean "that you can't fall out of the boat" - ?
Awesome coverage on this definitely enjoying!
Cheers
I see Alex was asleep from 4.30am to 11.30am this is very strange from him. Now he's awake he's back up to speed again. I agree with this comment.
It’s a great pity the alexthomsonracing website does not provide the in depth explanations you do so adeptly. It is a huge communications failure in my view costing retained interest and benefit for their sponsors. Maybe you should approach them! They need you desperately to keep everybody “on board” for 3 months!! Good luck
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There is actually a contestant in this race who only has one hand (Damien Seguin) I think. So which hand for him and which for the boat? Still. either way he's the only real valid contestant for a single handed yacht race!
Clip on, always. Doldrums or hurricane, clip on
Thanks very much again, especially for your honesty in being unable to explain Alex’s lead loss, more recently partially recovered now. It’s a great pity the alexthomsonracing website does not provide the in depth explanations you do so adeptly. It is a huge communications failure in my view costing retained interest and benefit for their sponsors. Maybe you should approach them! They need you desperately to keep everybody “on board” for 3 months!! Good luck
I too have been disappointed by Alex's team's media content. He is very good on camera and I do know he doesn't have much time, but even the pre-race bits were mostly short and superficial. They should take a page from Merc's F1 team's inhouse media. They are amazing. Very honest and fairly indepth and long format content. I really feel Hugo Boss are missing out big time.
@@AntiVaganza agreed, the exposure and potential commercial benefits come nowhere near being maximised.
He is not going to give anything further away than that which is already in his website. He and his team will have carefully considered what was interesting and ‘safe’ to put on the website and how often it is updated so that fellow competitors did not gain an advanced insight into his tactics.
@@normanboyes4983 I thought so, too - for a very short while. There's still a whole lot more content that could be made without giving up tactics or design secrets. Especially pre-race. Who knows, maybe they intended to and Covid got in the way.
@@AntiVaganza Alex can “see” his competitors constantly and reacts accordingly as they can and do, from comments made. No one would expect tactics to be declared. This site explains technical/design aspects of boats, sailors issues etc enabling the observer to appreciate far more what is happening and thereby retain interest. He can only surmise on some aspects and is honest enough to say so, cant ask for more.
Hi! Supper video. About life harnesses. I were in broaching situations, when wall becoming a floor. People almost washed away. All the matters are you hooked somewhere or not. Are you prepared for that or you have false feeling of safety. As a captain I always ask for crew to look around and feel waves, wind, the yacht. Especially in choppy weather. Watch after sales. That makes you confidence and brings to reality what can happen.
I stopped my abo on the official channels in English and French. Your channel is much better and tells me everything I really want to know. Thanks a lot!
As a mostly solo sailor, my general rule is vest and safety line in over 20 knots of TWS. And keep the line short, it's more inconvenient but you won't fall over board and get dragged under. Awareness is great but doesn't beat a hard line.
Excellent content. I would say you should have a tv show, but I prefer a lack of commercials. Some things are better left unsaid. Bravo!
Love this stream❤️
Good point there Matthijs, Alex is possibly thinking ahead to the upcoming confused weather and the attention it will take to get through it and into the Southern Ocean. There is still a LOT of racing ahead so as long as no one (including Alex) falls 100's of KN behind then all is well. Having to slow or stop for repairs is the worst case scenario so keeping a good speed and staying in touch with the lead boats is all that needs to be done at this point!
Wow What a start
Giancarlo Pedote with his Prysmian Group defends himself well, now in 13th place. It is worth following him and having other Italians follow the channel as well.
I like him too, especially when he talks about Italian food :-)
There are some calm winds ahead. I think Alex is aiming for the maximum winds ahead and by cutting the corner, the other competitors are going to be caught in the low velocity wind currents.
thank you, very intelligent analysis of the situation with an open mind!
I recall Alex Thomson saying he was concerned by the broken mast as "We all have the same mast". What did he mean by that? Is the IMOCA mast a controlled item?
Having just completed an east coast Australia over winter, it too came to me that this tether attached to me is more of a hinderance than help...there is a false sense of security when it's dark, strong winds and having to fix some fitting at the bow, however tripping and tangling it making my way aft on a 50' yacht, I did think i would have been better off without it. Previous years on another yacht, I never used them instead practiced planning out the task thoroughly, timing, planning and holding on
Watch Boris Herrmann recent video, gives a good explanation of Alex's westerly track
ruclips.net/video/fs9I_BTckU0/видео.html
What an interesting complex race so far . And yes , the gap is shortening between Alex Thomson and the other front leaders . Interesting right now - and yes, he knows exactly where he is and knows this #vendeeGlobe2020 is a long long haul . Maybe he is trying as you suggest to conserve himself and the boat
Hi - actually - I was checking Alex's wind speed last 4 days - it was all time slightly less than wind experienced by Apivia and LinkedOut. Also when looking on wind speed map - it was obvious that stronger wind was coming from behind with Apivia and linkedout -while Alex running in front actually had constantly 2-3 knots less wind. It is only today when he had stronger wind than his competitors and immediately he is going faster (than those two competitors)
Dont know, but you won’t see me going out on the fore deck during my night watch without a safety line as you’re not going to see shit behind the toe rail
Quite right. Clip on, always. Use a double line so you can clip the new one on before you release the other one. Use short lines so you can't go overboard. It's just habit
OK nice show as always!! As a mini single-handed sailor on a mini, how about, your personal take on the stresses and emotional turmoil you guys go through with your good or bad decisions! The more human you make this the more you touch people…Your experience too, please!
I sailed mini also for sveera months every day :) great boats :)
Your logic on safety lines is based on their improper usage. The point of safety line is not to keep you attached to the boat in case you go over, but rather to prevent you from going over in the first place. The position of lifelines and length of your tether should be such that it is impossible to go over board. It is really horrible how many people do not understand this. The racers will not use them in many cases as they accept higher risk for the ability to move faster on deck, since they are racing. But for cruisers safety should be prioritized against doing a maneuver 5s faster.
Hey Matthijs, nice vid again. Thank you, I love your spirit. And you give out nice informations. I love you dutch people, you are nice people. Have been living in amsterdam for some time and enjoyed it a lot. (the only thing, if I may, is that church music at the beginning ;-) hey ! there are so many nice rock songs or metal ones or disco that could fit also. But hey, it's YOUR video so you def got to chose what you like ;-)
LinkedOut and Apiva seem to be the faster boats but Alex is a really really good sailor
The 4, 5, 6 day predictions depend on who can organize the larger number of butterflies, flapping their wings
Can you plot the gradient of the wind direction? Speed
the gradient of the gradient of wind direction? Acceleration...
Any other “Field Variables”?
Thanks for your talent and work/research!
Nice stock footage of coffee being made /s LOL
We require more proof /s LOL
thx
Nice commentary! Can you explain in next video the grinder mechanics in the cockpit? Does it operate all sails lines tensions? thanks
They have remote control of the auto pilot, maybe it get confidence to don't use savety line.
maybe yes :)
My guess is the automation of the boat is a virtual tether. They must wear a watch or some device and if contact is lost the boat goes head to wind...
@@eddiedoherty2349 now that you've pointed that idea out, it would seem totally crazy for this not to be a thing.
This was my immediate thoughts. A sailing Kill Switch tied to the Autopilot. Why? Because if you fall overboard, the boat will continue to sail on at 20+ knots and you will have to swim home.
If you were going to look at other systems on the boats that would be interesting to explain then the hydraulics for keels and foils, the extensions for the stays on the mast, power generation and water generation would all be great.
I will
excellent as always ,,, could you do something on polars ?
I think for a Dutch person your English is pretty incredible. Lots of idioms and phrases i would not expect you to know. It was clear to me what you meant.
Whoops. Commenting wrong post. Wet fingers in the bath!
Alex is sailing strategically (it's all about finding the door to Southern Ocean - so he is going more west - they are not looking at what happens 500 or 1000 nm in front of them - they look at 1500-2000 nm in front of them) + don't always look at the "VMG" speed either + bye the way the VMG is not really correct - it's a VMC (the ideal course) . 2ndly he had a +/- 6h "sleep" this morning - and after he woke up he has been very busy exploring the performance of his boat - so don't be surprised if you'll see him doing a 4h 21kn avg. Don't forget they want to be in a good position @Cape Horn before really pushing the pedal to the medal.
Is one explanation of the erosion of ATs’ lead, the fact that he had 6 hours sleep from 2300 last evening, rather than a grand routing strategy?
I agree with you about safety lines. They do offer utility if you are going to be in a static location - furlers, main mast, stern to conduct a task BUT the securing tether has to be short enough to keep you on deck (and not over the deck edge) under any circumstances. If the task is a ‘quick one’ involving wide ranging tour of the boat (inspection) then tethering is counter productive of quick and the best strategy is to do this tasks when conditions are less risky and do them quickly.
Nice kettle - Lidl?
ikea ;)
I think your point about not wearing a safety line is within what's called risk compensation. (wikipedia is the place for you). Basically: The bigger the safety-net, the bigger the risk people are willing to take.
Alex looks to be about 50 miles south of Linked out but further to the west so the 12 miles from 1st to 2nd is to the Finnish. So it will be interesting to see if this choice to go further west pays off in the next few days..
A few things about Alex ‘going backwards’: firstly it looks like the yardstick for ‘who’s leading’ is a more ‘direct route’ South and East, that doesn’t necessarily reflect the trade winds, or the realities of the weather. It does look like he’s gone further West than maybe he needed, but I think the ‘baseline’ (finishing line, or at least gateway to the Southern ocean?) to which the fleet is heading, may not be what the fleet is being measured against by ‘the data’. Secondly, he did say in an early video that Hugo Boss wasn’t fastest on the point of sail all the boats were initially on, when Aptivia etc pulled ahead. So, it maybe they are on a point of sail at present that really does not favour Alex’s boat. When Alex was extending, the wind direction was more from the rear, ie the boats downwind. Lastly therefore, if Hugo Boss is optimised for downwind sailing, then this is what the trade winds are (back in the days when sailing boats were more or less only ‘pushed downwind’, before wing-action sails clawing to windward had been understood). Over the total distance of the race, Hugo Boss may therefore have an overall advantage, but short term, may not. Look at the weather animations of the Southern ocean now, it’s a whole lot of exactly wind from behind, relative to the direction the fleet have to travel. One last thing - if you look at Alex’s website, in the last 24hrs Alex has had the longest sleep that I think he has taken so far - of your sleeping, your not responsive and racing full tilt.
The funny thing about the current path of Hugo Boss, is that this course closely follows the winning route from the last race.
Once again, fantastic show! Loving your updates, as well as the explanations, and the intelligent discussions in the comments which have answered questions also. Kojiro's last name is pronounced like Shee-Ra-Yee-Shee. Basic questions I have - how are the sails actually lifted? I know there are ropes, but is there some kind of track system on the mast that they slid into like a zipper to be hauled up? Actual visual representations would be helpful (your sail drawings were very helpful, BTW!). Travellers, hooks, sheets, halyards, blocks, it all gets a bit confusing. We see them talk about replacing things or things that broke, but half the time I don't know what those bits are. Oh, and one thing I noticed missing from the sail discussion but is talked about all the time is big and small "gennaker" - how do those fit into the sail lineup?
Measured distance between Alex and 2 followers on the map is about 100nautic miles, while official distance is 17,8 nm.
Yep. They have a distance to a theoretical waypoint on the ideal course, not bow to bow distance in the direction of travel. But these waypoints are pretty meaningless at this stage. You have to follow the wind and weather.
When you are sailing single handed there is nobody to stop the boat so you reboard! I have single handed most of the time on a fast Trimaran and went overboard when single handing without safey lease but survived because boat sailed on it's own as recovered by RNLI after I had swum for 2 hrs to get ashore!
I would never of survived being dragged for 11miles! You need a lifejacket on at all times on open deck and a personal Location Beacon ! I now always wear a PCB even when in dinghy on own accessing mooring!
Unfortunately, there's no RNLI in the southern ocean!! Overboard and you're gone!! I guess they except that for expediency.
@@charlesRLmartin Doesn't the Venlee Globe deploy some choppers to get out there fast? There's always a Navy vessel somewhere in the area can dispatch assistance.
The whole race is not in the Southern Ocesn and there are always fellow competitors in a a fleet of the size
@@donaldsutherland491 Let's hope they're around when needed !! but the vastness of the ocean is I guess one of the reasons they do this. The Lifebuoys on the rear of these boats they know are pointless…
Alex is slowing down to be in position for a weather window later on.
Alex's boat is prepped for downwind sailing. Now they are sailing more to the wind. This was already playing in the beginning of the race.
With Apollo 13, they stirred the oxygen tanks and then the oxygen tanks practically exploded. If you’re looking for a good podcast on it, look up 13 minutes to the Moon from the BBC. Series 1 is all about the 13 minutes of powered descent on the Apollo 11 mission and series 2 is about Apollo 13.
When you mentioned “PRB”, I believe you meant “Apivia”. Great work, keep it up!
The distance behind leader is misleading, it is a “distance to finish” comparison between the boats. If you measure on the tracker bow to bow, it is clear he is further ahead than the “distance to leader” given, ie ahead/astern not distance to some waypoint possibly near South Africa or elsewhere. That said, yes he has been slower in last few bulletins, and slightly more headed so therefore harder on the wind, but he will be freed up by the backing wind first and should extend again within the next 12 to 18 hours I think
I think this is spot on. The most recent official tracking map, (17.00. UTC), shows Alex being about 45 minutes, (not time minutes - but minutes of longitude), further south than linked out - or about 45 nautical miles, so however the official site calculate the comparative distances, it must include some element of how Far East each vessel is at this point. They are not as close as they look.
Of course I meant, minutes of latitude not longitude. That will teach me to post in a hurry but my fajitas were ready!
See the safety tether is intended to keep you INSIDE the rail ....
Has this guy ever sailed overnight ? anywhere ?
People need to understand something here, Thomas isnt 7 miles behind Alex, the distance is calculated from whats left of the course, and as Alex has gone further west than Thomas he will have more of a distance to cover, but potentially looking for better water to cross, we need to look at the next week to 10 days, not just whats happened over night
So based on that its not a case that Thomas has gained that much on Alex, more than Thomas has picked a shorter distance
Ya ... Ok dude .... if you are in the South Indian Ocean at 4:00 AM with 30 knots, and 20 foot seas ... and you have to go to the foredeck to resolve a problem ..... I GUARANTEE you have a tether ON !!!!
Is Hugo Boss slow because of the wind or is he not pushing the boat like the others?
What's that diagonal line of doldrum pockets, gong south-east from Caravelas, Brazil
L O and Apivia are wider do maybe they have a speed advantage in side wind?
maybe yes
Next time Louis Burton goes to the bow he should bring a bar of soap along 10:14
When he realized he was bleeding miles and thought about doing something about he said (quote from the hub) “Shut up Alex. Go back to bed, for goodness sake.” So that’s what I did, I went to bed again.
Once again,Thank you for rendering in ultrawide and not simply putting black lines, love your content!
But dude, you seriously need to up your rendering game or maybe find another way do download content from YT(i use savefrom.net it lets you choose quality of video you want to download, hope this will help/)
Referance the safety lines a healthy fear of death focuses the mind
If you look at the Volvo race videos most at clipped on but on short lines so they can not go overboard
Also if you do something every day you accept some of the risk that would frighten some one else
Reference Alex going slower he could be pacing him self ready for the Southern Ocean both physically and mentally so he is ready rather than wearing himself down just to stay in front when a mistake in the Southern Ocean could cost him the race, long way to go...
Really loving the site, the strategy reviews, the insight on tech. A question: I see they have desalinators for fresh water, but how is "waste" handled, big tank?
I read a French article about this. They basically urinate over the side. Bowel movements are generally into a bucket. Some have a drop hole for the bucket to fit into to make sitting easier. It is the only waste they are allowed to throw overboard, and it's in bags made of starch which dissolve within 24 hours in the water. Trash is kept on board until they return, in part of the hull to seal off some of the odor.
Sorry I don't have time to translate the whole thing right now, but if you read French (or use Google Translate to do it), here is an amusing and informative article on the subject: www.francetvinfo.fr/sports/voile/vendee-globe/vendee-globe-faire-ses-besoins-sur-un-bateau-c-est-la-foire-du-trone_1970455.html
imho , with a safety line you can survive.
not with a combination lifejacket and safety line .
lifejacket in this course is useless
good channel lots of information especially when you are not hat much a sailing expert. Following you on regular basis.
One question which has nothing to do with sailing: I like your picture with the monkey very much. :-) From whom is it? is that print available elsewhere?
Q for you : what do you think about the group of women sailors ? In particular , watching all the ‘sail change’ videos and discussion, it’s clearly very very physical to cart sails out and change them . What are your considerations or thoughts about how the women and men deal with saving their energies
last 2 volvo ocean races proved that women cannot compete with men. that's why during the next edition every team will have to include women members so there is no women only team. women can still sail anywhere they want at their own pace.
@@piotrtrocki3842 tell that to Tracy Edwards and good luck with that
@@sailormarttiki3197 like I said women can sail anywhere and can get close. There are single cases. Tracy Edwardsa was 18th out of 21 boats that finished the race, about 40 days behind the leader. There is a reason why Volvo Ocean Race decided to get rid of "female only" team for the next year edition of Volvo race. There are women sailing around the world, but if you put them against men shoulder to shoulder, their chances are slim. That's why it's an idiotic thing to let men after sex change procedure compete with women.
1 1/2 minutes to the show and my Nespresso machine is broken
ajjj :)
Seems clear that Alex is going slower than Linked Out and Apivia over the last 3 days, and it's not just weather differences. Is it a breakage or just a slower boat?
He is just resting now after the stress of the doldrums.
A couple of days ago Charal left port, sailed to the exclusion area (400mls), then sailed back to port. Did I read his plot correctly, if so why such a big out and return ?
If you roll back and replay the tracks on the website you can see his track. I think you are wrong in that.
Looking forward to the update today - However I don't understand Alex Thomson's decision to take such a westerly track when the winds at present appear stronger to his east, favouring those who are chasing him ??? Any thoughts/comments ?
First tpoic in today;s show is Alex's course and spreed :)
I guess we are also looking at a wind prediction from a model. Alex has extra data points - the actual wind, wave state and cloud he is seeing - and several different models and satellite images, and offshore experience. But he is not infallible...
Somewhat on the Hugo Boss question; what does history say about who wins versus who is leading at various times? I'm no expert, but it seems to me that leads grow and vanish and the eventual winner is never set in the first week.
Seems to be constantly confusing PRB with Apivia....
Yeah, it was driving me crazy :D Otherwise the content is great and entertaining.
Do you carry an EPIRB on your body in case you land in the water, without a safety line?
He has been heading more westerly.
Every bary With alex.untel the end the finish
Alex is concerned that if he leads too far he would be bullying the others
How is Jeremy doing relative to where the fleet was where he is now?
Hang on in there, Florian. Only 60 more of these to go. Do you have auto pilot? 😂
Image of Charal seemed to show it reversing out from the dock to turn round. Do these boats have engines? I did wonder when the other boat was dismasted and the tracker showed it going straight to an island, but there were no images of damage. Do they all have engines in case of emergency?
Yes, they have engines. the class requires a minimum 37HP diesel with a permanent, no folding prop.
@@niagara1238 Thanks. I had never seen mention of an engine in any of the technical videos I have watched I must look more closely at pictures of them well heeled over or foiling.
@@seankearney6915 The quantity (weight) of diesel they carry is another matter. Apparently the engines are sealed on departure to make sure they do not cheat in the doldrums. Way offshore you might need to wait until you drift closer to land or Jerry rig some sails if you dismast to get you moving slowly in the right direction until you are in engine range of land.
There has to be a better answer to safety than just to not bother with safety lines because they are inconvenient. Maybe shorter ones so one doesn't go overboard or remote control of the boat if one does. For all the buccaneer adventurer look in your eyes Florian when you were talking about this I wonder how you would look and feel if you did fall overboard and saw your boat sailing away from you
Like Florian said, at +5 knots from the water pressure you are pinned to or behind the boat anyway. Shitty way to drown. Most offshore life jackets come with a safety knife to cut your line and release yourself anyway. But good luck finding and using that in 20 knots of stream. There is a reason water skiers release the line when they fall. On smaller boats you might be lucky and find yourself near a rudder to turn the boat into wind but these things - fighting an autohelm - no chance. I use life lines at night with two people on watch. Then your mate can slow the boat and assist you back on board or you can bang the hull to wake the sleeping crew.
@@ecoworrier You might want to read what I wrote again. Good luck anyway
@@johnswimcat Hi. Thanks for the reply. I take your point - better to use a short leash and not go over the rail into the water. In reality though these boats are quite wide so if you clip a short leash into a life line running forward from the cockpit, it will either be too inboard that you cannot reach blocks on the toe rail or too outboard that you cannot stand at the mast. I might choose a really short leash and just clip in at the mast or wherever I was going and be unsafe for the short walk there. If you are at the mast or on fore deck when the boat broaches or decelerates or a wave comes over - that short leash will be really useful.
@@ecoworrier Hi, thank you for an intelligent and non-confrontational reply. I was thinking back to the days when there was very little safety applied to Formula 1 racing and first class people lost their lives. Sailing offshore is a risky business, especially in super high performance boats, and I don't think it's cowardly to try to take reasonable safety precautions. Clipping on or not is probably largely a matter of habit. I do practical stuff all the time and know only too well how tempting it is to take shortcuts with safety, however having been hit in the face by flying bits of metal and wood I will never use a strimmer with a blade or a table saw again without eye protection. I used to be a yacht designer of sorts and I have found that most problems can be addressed if one gives them enough thought. I feel desperately sad for the relatives and friends of sailors who have been lost overboard. I can't even imagine the thoughts and feelings of someone in the sea seeing their boat sailing away
Likewise. You are quite welcome. Civility costs nothing. 👍
Wind the movie...LOL
Silly Frenchies love a movie about the U.S.A. losing a race for the first time since its inception.
No wonder you created a race with 7 out of 8 frenchies... so you can win occasionally.
Not to mention calling it a race around the world when in actuality they just sail around the south pole.
Why not just go sail around Iceland and call it a race around the world! LOL
Love the videos...keep up the great work!
Florian is Dutch, not French and more supportive for the international competitors. It is a race around the world, because the total lenght of the race is about the same as if you would race around the equator. A sailing race needs water, you know.
@@dehermannen2419 I seeee... that's good.
Why not sail around and around Ireland until you hit the magic number?
I think there is a place in Panama that allows ships to go from one ocean to another if you wanted to really sail around the world.
@@dehermannen2419 I watched Wind the movie last night...you were right it's a great sailing movie.
I am not sure how much of it really happened but I loved the sailing side of it.
I wish the veendee had more sailing.
@@eddrm4685 Glad you liked it. The Vendee is different, it's like a Formule 1 race and the Dakar. But I can appreciate both. I guess you are not very fond about the French, but you have to give them credit for creating great inspiring contests. The Tour the France, Dakar, Vendee Globe and so many others, they make people dream and that's why they are so popular. I wish you al the luck with your 100 times around Ireland, but I doubt it wil gain the same tracking as the Vendee Globe.
@@dehermannen2419 100 times wow.. I would agree that may not catch on...contestants might get dizzy .
Le Cam's boat won the 2008-2009 Vendee after restating 41 hours behind
About what's going with Alex. What I see. I'm on VR and choosing the same route as Alex. Why? Wind will be stronger. The are will be some strange light wind patches on East. My plan is go down for a day, following the curve and see what changes. Tricky predictions, my predictions. My be will come some Low pressure system in game which will push High pressure system more to NE. As Thomson yesterday sad. "I'll go to Brazil coast and the will look for window." I'm doing the same. It's like a game. Truth or False. I'm saying that 3 days forecast is almost false. Off course for me it's a game. For Alex?