but what if... each universe back story is unique and the joker is so mentally broken he can see all his horrid origins from abusive parents to one really bad day and that's why he can't tell which is real anymore
FoxRNG Well remember Batman musing to Alfred “I don’t know him, Alfred. All these years and I don’t know who He is anymore than He knows who I am. How can two people Hate so much without knowing each other?” For me that pretty much answers that question, But of course there is that flashback from the Joker’s memory that gives us Batman encountering that nameless comedian who becomes the Joker in that Red Hood costume, but there are quite a few hints there that this is just one of Joker’s many flashbacks of his origin, “Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be Multiple Choice!” The fact that this flashback is in sepia coloring and Batman’s outfit is rather different than how it looks in the main story and especially the fact that Batman doesn’t pursue him when he’s looking down at him struggling in the river and surfaces across the bank of the river are just indications that this is just a fever dream interpretation of Joker’s origin from the recesses of his twisted mind. So it’s not something I really have any problem with. I’ve always thought Joker’s permanent skin bleaching and greenish hair and permanent grin was something that was done to him in childhood and it completely shattered his sanity, similar to the character in ‘The Man who Laughs’ which was an inspiration for The Joker for his creators Bill Finger & Jerry Robinson.
People being able to relate to the Joker is what makes the new Joker movie so good, any villain can be evil just for the sake of being evil. The descent into madness for Arthur was extremely well done imo, and that's what made movie so good. Joker wouldn't have been as good if he just fell into chemicals and boom, he became the Joker. Also, it's a movie, normal people won't fucking want to go kill people cause they saw a movie with a villain who wasn't "I'm evil cause I am!"
So then, the first guy has an idea... He says "Hey! I have a flashlight with me! I'll shine it between the gap of the buildings and you can walk along the beam and join me."
i think leto did a great job too. I wish he didnt look like that though. He looks like a mental herion addict. But ill have to agree that ledger really nailed crossing the comics with the dark real tone that movie had.
@@doomslayer812 2019 is a dangerous retelling... without the "vat of acid" arc, people can potentially relate to him, which is an incredibly unhealthy concept
JCBro2014 Yeah I didn't even cared for Heath Ledger's version of the guy. He was just too over the top for me to handle. That and the disturbing scene with him killing the guy on the tv freaked the shit outta me.
So many versions of Joker cartoon, comic, live action movies and feature length animated movies. One that unnerved me the most as a kid was KidsWB The Batman.
This story was telled by The Joker himself, and he love lying about his past, so he probably lied in this story to. P.S sorry for my english i'm french ; ).
+CMD3 the only thing we know about Joker's origin is that at some point he fell into a vat of chemicals and went insane, Joker has stated that his backstory is multiple choice and that every time he remembers it its different
The reason why it's better for the Joker to not have a conclusive backstory is because it makes him just like any member of the masses, symbolically portraying the evil and insanity that lives within us all that merely waits for something to come along to push us over the edge so that it can take control. Not only is he an undoubtably legendary villian due to the level of evil he is willing to go to, but a philosophical ideology in and of himself.
"If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice" In the end, Joker has no origin that can be considered true or false; I bet he doesn't even know
6:13, One of the most popular comic book super villains, The Joker has been played by many actors. Including the likes of Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, the voice of Mark Hamill, Heath Ledger, and most recently, Joaquin Phoenix in his own spinoff film, ‘Joker’.
I never felt like Joker needs a backstory, it’s what makes him a greater villain, as Joker is in itself unknown we never know what he’s going to do next so why should we know such a spontaneous and enigmatic person story when we know nothing of him already, we are basically telling a shadows story.
+J0KERHAHAHAHA I mean , I'm not sure why but in my opinion , his face just suits the role of joker. Unlike the current leto joker, decent acting but his face just doesn't suit joker
Heath Ledger will forever be remembered as the best joker, there is yet to come someone to surpass him. Leto's joker was just ok whereas Heath's was amazing.
True. However, looking at Ledger's Joker, you realize Eisenberg's Luthor is pretty much Ledger's Joker. Even the way how they talk. Why didn't they pick a different personality for Luthor?
+J0KERHAHAHAHA The way Mark Hammill portrays him is both parts fun and scary. Remembering the one line from Arkham City and how he delivered it "You of all people should know... there's plenty wrong with me...."
I think the confusion behind his back story is perfect for him. Batmans backstory is clear and vivid while the jokers is distorted, another reason why these two characters where perfect rivals.
3:05 - 3:18 If my information is correct, that blonde girl working as a waitress is none other than *the future Harley Quinn*. After she talks with the depressed future Joker, she inspires him to stick to his job (he doesn't really tells her what he exactly does for a living), and as thanks, *he anonymously pays her College studies*. Mad Love indeed.
I like his lack of backstory in The Dark Knight. The mystery just added to his craziness in my opinion. He's the who/what/when/where but doesn't even give a reason WHY. Does it just because. Now THAT'S a villain.
I think The Killing Joke origin is the best origin for the Joker. No add-ons or retcons, The Killing Joke origin is just the story of a guy who had a really, REALLY bad day. But I also like what he says later on where the Joker says, "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another, but if I'm going to have to pick, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
People love to hate Leto's joker because he isn't like the "classic" joker despite the many different interpretations of the character that the character was inspired from. Given the right material, he could very easily be considered one of the best, even rivaling ledgers.
No people don't like Leto's joker because he has no direction. He doesn't have a single line in the movie that means anything and he plays the character as if the director told him to just 'act crazy'. That isn't what people like about the Joker's character. Ledger's Joker wasn't just 'crazy', there was motive behind his actions. He was someone who messed with people to the point where they show their true colors. His goal was to break down the facade of civility and exploit people's darkest qualities to create chaos. Thus the line, "when the chips are down, these 'civilized' people - they'll eat each other." Leto's Joker displays no depth at all. It's mainly the writer's fault. He just doesn't say anything or do anything that is thought provoking or meaningful or, most importantly, believable.
+Rythmbot except this joker wasn't simply crazy and there were motives to his actions. He was only there to service Harley, which essentially was his motivation throughout the movie which was handled extremely well if you ask me. That scene above the pit for her origin was intense and eerie and said a lot about both characters in that one scene and at least in the context of their relationship. This was never intended to be a joker movie. Why would we expect the depth of psychology of his character be treated as such?
+Rythmbot different people don't like Leto's joker for different reasons. Some don't like him for reasons I stated and some don't like him for reasons you stated. Different people like different things for different reasons. That's why I said some or half or a lot. I'm not implying all don't like the character for the same reasons
Ian Jackson So what exactly did that scene with the chemicals say about the Joker? He almost lets her die but then he has a second thought and goes back to save her. Why? That isn't explained at all. You may say, "because he loved her" but what is it about her that he loves? He wants to walk away but something makes him go back. So why did he want her to fall in the pit in the first place and what changed his mind? It's true, there could be a lot of reasons for this but the point is that the movie doesn't give us any answers. It's just random. You can't invent explanations for plot holes in movies that aren't actually there. There is nothing in the movie that sheds any light on that. And to answer your question of 'why you should expect depth from the Joker's character'? Don't you think the filmmakers should respect their audience enough to actually put effort into making their characters believable? It's one thing to not bother giving depth and motive and risk to an extra or something. But for god sakes the reason they put the Joker in this movie was because he is the most iconic comic book villain of all time. You shouldn't spend time defending a movie made by people who don't respect you enough to show you something decent.
Random movie production fact: The scene in The Dark Knight in which The Joker is struggling to blow up the hospital with his hand held detonator, was a well played, improv by the irreplaceable Heath Ledger. The pyrotechnics team got the timing wrong, and didn't blow the building up as Ledger was trying to hit the switch. Rather than do another take, Ledger simply made it appear that his device malfunctioned. His surprised reaction to the explosion was real, as he thought it wasn't going to happen.
So what happened at the end of the "Batman: The Killing Joke" movie? Did Batman become insane or did he genuinely find what the Joker said funny and did they become friends? I was so confused by the ending.
I think they have been enemies for so long that it's almost as if they have become frenemies, I think it was a moment of piece different from their usual dance of catching joker and jailing him.
They also forgot that times in Batman (1989) when he did the following: Tainted several products with Smilex Gas. Vandalized the paintings in the Gotham Museum. When he tried to kill every one with Smelix gas;
Ok, I haven't read the comic books, and Watchmojo is contradictory to itself, so tell me. In the first Watchmojo Joker origin video, using The Killing Joke, they said that the man-turned-Joker was nameless. Here, they say his name is Jack. 1. Which one is true? 2. If his name is Jack, is his last name (like I sometimes hear) Napier?
What about the origin story that said he has been the joker for hundreds of years because wen he was young he found a lazorth pit and Everytime he went in it he got more deranged and thru history he was known as the pale man who laughs
heath ledger was great in his own respects but nothing like the REAL joker. He like everyone else in Nolan's film played his own version of the character which isn't bad or wrong but it definitely isn't the joker as he should be portrayed.
"If I'm going to have a past I prefer it to be multiple choice." ~Joker
yet most of them involved a red hood and a vat of chemicals.
but what if... each universe back story is unique and the joker is so mentally broken he can see all his horrid origins from abusive parents to one really bad day and that's why he can't tell which is real anymore
"he looked into the abyss and the abyss stared back"
I liked the original, the Killing Joke, where we find out that the Clown Prince of Crime started out as a nobody.
+ Deadpool Guy It almost like Mass Effect 3 ending: they say you have choices but in reality it's all the same.
jesus the joker has more backstories than deaths
If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice.
-The Joker
Why do serious?
it's still weird knowing Luke Skywalker is the joker's voice actor
Mark Hammill
No it isn't
+Rainy Days well in the games and batman the killing joke mark Hamill voices the joker...
Ben Upton also the batman animated series
The best joker voice in my opinion.
The killing Joke origin is the best origin for him gives the character more depth
I don't read comics that often, but that was well worth reading.
FoxRNG It still works for me and IMHO is the essential Joker story.
FoxRNG Well remember Batman musing to Alfred
“I don’t know him, Alfred.
All these years and I don’t know who He is anymore than He knows who I am.
How can two people Hate so much without knowing each other?”
For me that pretty much answers that question,
But of course there is that flashback from the Joker’s memory that gives us Batman encountering that nameless comedian who becomes the Joker in that Red Hood costume, but there are quite a few hints there that this is just one of Joker’s many flashbacks of his origin,
“Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another...
If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be Multiple Choice!”
The fact that this flashback is in sepia coloring and Batman’s outfit is rather different than how it looks in the main story and especially the fact that Batman doesn’t pursue him when he’s looking down at him struggling in the river and surfaces across the bank of the river are just indications that this is just a fever dream interpretation of Joker’s origin from the recesses of his twisted mind.
So it’s not something I really have any problem with.
I’ve always thought Joker’s permanent skin bleaching and greenish hair and permanent grin was something that was done to him in childhood and it completely shattered his sanity, similar to the character in ‘The Man who Laughs’ which was an inspiration for The Joker for his creators Bill Finger & Jerry Robinson.
I totally agree
@@cha5 this was beautifully written I couldn't gave written it better
joker isn't insane, he is supersane
yilan obama hi this is the imaginary axis and i am Tyler
No... he is outsane
He’s just ahead of the curb
The joker character single handedly made batman franchise famous.
I believe batman made batman famous
yeah, but...but--THAT ROGUE'S GALLERY!
wow time traveler
I think it’s a combination of joker and Batman
Bitch please 🖐
Joker’s complicated backstory is one of the things that makes him such an interesting character.
Joker in 1980:Created by chemical waste
Joker in 2019:Created by society
@Frank Sinatra agreed
2019 is a dangerous retelling... without the "vat of acid" arc, people can potentially relate to him, which is an incredibly unhealthy concept
@Drew Biggah he means the joaquin phoenix joker
Edward Ness It was amazing.
People being able to relate to the Joker is what makes the new Joker movie so good, any villain can be evil just for the sake of being evil. The descent into madness for Arthur was extremely well done imo, and that's what made movie so good. Joker wouldn't have been as good if he just fell into chemicals and boom, he became the Joker. Also, it's a movie, normal people won't fucking want to go kill people cause they saw a movie with a villain who wasn't "I'm evil cause I am!"
This reminds me of a joke. There were two men in the asylum
And one day they decided they didn't like it there anymore
+J0KERHAHAHAHA so they escaped and watched the sight stretching to the horizon stretching to freedom
Now the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. but his friend, his friend daredn't make the leap. Y'see he's afraid of falling.
So then, the first guy has an idea...
He says "Hey! I have a flashlight with me! I'll shine it between the gap of the buildings and you can walk along the beam and join me."
And then the second guy was like, "What are you? Crazy? You'll just turn it off when I'm halfway across!"
RIP Heath Ledger... you will always be the greatest Joker of all time...
He was good but mark hammil will always be the joker
+Silverwolfgaming it's like Mark Hamill was created so that he could voice the Joker xD
i think leto did a great job too. I wish he didnt look like that though. He looks like a mental herion addict. But ill have to agree that ledger really nailed crossing the comics with the dark real tone that movie had.
nah mark hamill is.
You mean the second best. MARK HAMILL WINS!!!!!!!!!!
Hands down! The greatest villain ever created throughout history.
No matter how many times DC Comics changes
Joker's origin story, he still falls into vat of acid.
Janet Teltschik not in 2019
2019: Gets thrown into society
@@matthew_natividad well there's 3 jokers.
@@doomslayer812 2019 is a dangerous retelling... without the "vat of acid" arc, people can potentially relate to him, which is an incredibly unhealthy concept
@@edwardness7497 Yeah what if some people......you know...
The Joker has always been my favorite supervillain ! He is truly Batmans archnemesis and he is the perfect match against the Dark Knight .
The Joker is one of my all-time favorite villains especially when Mark Hamill is playing him.
WatchMojo You forgot to mention that he has new origins that he is actually 3 people
That is true but that story is so new and not even fleshed out that they must of decided to not touch it.
They still should've mention it even timid there isn't much we kniw
+Waas But there are 3 different joker's.
Yea but the new 52 sucks
yeah but only in the new 52
jack nicholson did a great job in the batman movie as the joker.
I know right? He looked like he was really having fun and a time of his life.
Yeah, it's a shame he got overshadowed by Heath Leadger's performance in "The Dark Knight".
JCBro2014 Yeah I didn't even cared for Heath Ledger's version of the guy. He was just too over the top for me to handle. That and the disturbing scene with him killing the guy on the tv freaked the shit outta me.
***** and what do you expect,is the realistic version of a sadistic killer.
Carlos rodriguez Well yeah but I'm just saying. To me, it was just too much, man.
Joker: you know how I got these scars...
Depression
joker is the greatest villain (at least that is i believe)
So many versions of Joker cartoon, comic, live action movies and feature length animated movies. One that unnerved me the most as a kid was KidsWB The Batman.
One of my favorite versions, especially when he became a vampire in Batman vs Dracula
Psychotic geniuses are the worst.
In a bad way or a good way
@Roman Torteli yes
Finally a video worthy of my view.
Wow, what a very low standard.
2edgy4me
Damn, that burn...
Damn, a bit full of yourself aren'tcha?
All of Watchmojo's top 10 gaming videos are great.
Edge.
Best villain of all time, and my favorite. Nicholson and Ledger are great and Mark was born for the part.
* seeing the end of the video *
" Sigh…… Well, THAT was fun. Who's up for Chinese? ^_^ "
oh i get it
BTAS reference. I see what you did there lol
does Indian sound nice?LOL :) HAHA!
MEEEEEEE3!¡¡!!!!!!!!!
I want Chinese no dog or cat though
joker has no origin, it's a mystery. all anyone can do it guess. this video is all just a guess.
exactly
This story was telled by The Joker himself, and he love lying about his past, so he probably lied in this story to.
P.S sorry for my english i'm french ; ).
+CMD3 the only thing we know about Joker's origin is that at some point he fell into a vat of chemicals and went insane, Joker has stated that his backstory is multiple choice and that every time he remembers it its different
"If i'm going to have a past i prefer it to be multiple choice", that sums it up.
Isnt Rebirth bringing a new theory about the joker? 3 jokers apparently.
The greatest comic villain ever! That makes batman the greatest superhero of all times. Never gets old.
Nobody:
Joker: *Takes his dog on a morning walk, slips on a banana skin and falls into toxic chemical waste*
but this did not solve the question , Harvey Dent , can we trust him?!
😃😃😃
👍
I like the idea that NO ONE knows jokers origin.
It ads to his greatness.
His madness makes any story about his origin unknowable
i like heath ledgers potrayal as the joker because his past was a mystery
The reason why it's better for the Joker to not have a conclusive backstory is because it makes him just like any member of the masses, symbolically portraying the evil and insanity that lives within us all that merely waits for something to come along to push us over the edge so that it can take control. Not only is he an undoubtably legendary villian due to the level of evil he is willing to go to, but a philosophical ideology in and of himself.
"Oh,I`m not gonna kill ya. I`m just gonna hurt ya.....really...really...bad."
YOUNOWANOBEEF
YOUNOWANOBEEEEEEF
"I can`t wait to show you my toys!"
"You think so? well I can take it."
Matthew Burns"Are you sweet talkin me?"
Sam Kresil (puts hand over mouth and laughs)
Nobody:
Joker: You wanna know how I got these scars?
Ayush Zaveri Batman: No, but I know how you got these!
Ahh......deppresion?
Anyone here after the trailer for the movie was released
Me
a wise man once told me that if you have an origin story you better off making it multiple choice- still joker
ok cool now give me Harley Quinn's origins
Psychiatrist who falls in love with a weird psycho clown.
Bye bye normal life. Hello abusive relationship.
*THE END*
+Insomnia basically
She's not a very old character and doesn't have much back story. she falls in love with crazy. has Stockholm syndrome and gets abused daily.
+shiroikin I'm sick of people sayin she fucking has Stockholm syndrome. Every fan knows she's the one that keeps coming back.
+Diana Marroquin can't agree more.
The Joker is the yin to Batman’s yang.
"If you kill a killer the killers in the world stay the same"~Batman
The best Joker is still the Batman the Animated Series version
And now I have even more love for the prince of crime....
damn, what a great villain he is; hope to see and learn more about him
M(ARK) (HAM)ILL
Joe Balaich
I see what you did there
Joe Balaich someone knows their stuff :)
Wow that’s well wow I never would notice that (ARK) - (HAM) Arkham
Arkham
Very clever
"If I'm going to have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice"
In the end, Joker has no origin that can be considered true or false; I bet he doesn't even know
Literally the best super villain of all time.
One of the best Superman villains
6:13, One of the most popular comic book super villains, The Joker has been played by many actors. Including the likes of Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, the voice of Mark Hamill, Heath Ledger, and most recently, Joaquin Phoenix in his own spinoff film, ‘Joker’.
0:59 picture looks like Joaquin Phoenix's JOKER's thrilling scene (Joker shooting Murray Franklin)
How about another joke, Mur-ray?
@@TheBlackLodger U r awful Murray !
YA GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
Who cares about the origin when you have a mystifying thrilling unpredictable villian🤔🤔🙄
I prefer Alan Moore's origin. It's simpel yet haunting.
01:38 "Batman is teaching a criminology course because the 50s." I laughed a little too hard at that one!
The thumbnail looks like when you made a joke infront of your friend but realized it was someone else
I never felt like Joker needs a backstory, it’s what makes him a greater villain, as Joker is in itself unknown we never know what he’s going to do next so why should we know such a spontaneous and enigmatic person story when we know nothing of him already, we are basically telling a shadows story.
I don't think anyone looks better than Heath ledger as joker, everyone else just doesn't look right
Ledger is actually the farthest from looking like the actual joker, what are you smokin on???
+Trouble Maker who would you say is the closest?
Uhh what about Joker in the comics? You know, the way Joker is SUPPOSED to look?
+J0KERHAHAHAHA I mean , I'm not sure why but in my opinion , his face just suits the role of joker. Unlike the current leto joker, decent acting but his face just doesn't suit joker
i agree, he was a much more believable villain
Been waiting for a long time for this.
Heath Ledger will forever be remembered as the best joker, there is yet to come someone to surpass him. Leto's joker was just ok whereas Heath's was amazing.
AHEM MARK HAMILL.........
Heaths dead get over it
True. However, looking at Ledger's Joker, you realize Eisenberg's Luthor is pretty much Ledger's Joker. Even the way how they talk. Why didn't they pick a different personality for Luthor?
+J0KERHAHAHAHA The way Mark Hammill portrays him is both parts fun and scary. Remembering the one line from Arkham City and how he delivered it "You of all people should know... there's plenty wrong with me...."
***** I know he's dead (?) I don't understand what I said that made you think that I thought he wasn't.
The killing joke version is the one I liked the most it's more poetic and a better story
moral of the joker's backstories, DC Need to get their shit tOgether
stfi
I think the confusion behind his back story is perfect for him. Batmans backstory is clear and vivid while the jokers is distorted, another reason why these two characters where perfect rivals.
recently in the comics it was revealed that there are 3 jokers
joker's past and story is soooooooo dark ,but u cant see that on his face
Marvel=best superheroes
Dc=best villains
Facts
Am I the only one who already knew all of this?
Majority of us have faith in you Joaquin Phoenix. I believe you will be a great joker man, please don't let us down. It's your time to shine!🃏🎭
he didn’t. not in the slightest
@@reashark3987 he did in my opinion he’s better than Heath Ledger
Jared Leto joker/ Ben affleck batman/ redhood movie about to be Amazing
red hood movies confirmed??
+Radical Soul Imagine "Death In(Not Of) The Family Rated R by Ben AFFLECK 😍😍😍
+McKing1003 Gaming bruhhhhhh don't get me started
Christian bale is better
+No Trump naaaah
I would love a joker origin with Jared Leto. If you just focus on him, he'd be perfect.
The Joker is one of the most iconic DC supervillains in the DC comic books and one of Batman's most greatest enemies in Gotham City.
Villains in general
@@Qwerty-be5rh Yes he is
Killing Joke is still my favorite backstory
3:05 - 3:18 If my information is correct, that blonde girl working as a waitress is none other than *the future Harley Quinn*. After she talks with the depressed future Joker, she inspires him to stick to his job (he doesn't really tells her what he exactly does for a living), and as thanks, *he anonymously pays her College studies*. Mad Love indeed.
"WHY AREN'T YOU LAUGHING?"
I like his lack of backstory in The Dark Knight. The mystery just added to his craziness in my opinion. He's the who/what/when/where but doesn't even give a reason WHY. Does it just because. Now THAT'S a villain.
I think The Killing Joke origin is the best origin for the Joker. No add-ons or retcons, The Killing Joke origin is just the story of a guy who had a really, REALLY bad day. But I also like what he says later on where the Joker says, "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another, but if I'm going to have to pick, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"
They did this video soooooo long ago it's about time they redo it
Finally I've been waiting for this one
Red Hood One is my fave out of em all, he was always a badass in that one ='D
Ronald isn't doing well after he got fired from McDonalds
After Heath Ledger... I don't think anyone can do a better Joker. Jared Leto was just terrible.
Heath ledger's was terrible!!
But He is just a voice
+Sterling Archer. You and the 1% opinion and man is it a shitty opinion. Ledgers joker is legendary and will always be remembered as the best.
+floger dingus whatever u say, ledger looked like a homeless hobo. let's joker is rich and shoes he's been doing tons of robberies.
Sterling Archer. What the fuck.... is that your actual argument.... hahahahahaha holy shit you use must be a little kid.
HOLY SHIT WATCHMOJO DIDNT MAKE A LIST VIDEO
EVERYBODY PANIC
People love to hate Leto's joker because he isn't like the "classic" joker despite the many different interpretations of the character that the character was inspired from. Given the right material, he could very easily be considered one of the best, even rivaling ledgers.
No people don't like Leto's joker because he has no direction. He doesn't have a single line in the movie that means anything and he plays the character as if the director told him to just 'act crazy'. That isn't what people like about the Joker's character. Ledger's Joker wasn't just 'crazy', there was motive behind his actions. He was someone who messed with people to the point where they show their true colors. His goal was to break down the facade of civility and exploit people's darkest qualities to create chaos. Thus the line, "when the chips are down, these 'civilized' people - they'll eat each other." Leto's Joker displays no depth at all. It's mainly the writer's fault. He just doesn't say anything or do anything that is thought provoking or meaningful or, most importantly, believable.
+Rythmbot except this joker wasn't simply crazy and there were motives to his actions. He was only there to service Harley, which essentially was his motivation throughout the movie which was handled extremely well if you ask me. That scene above the pit for her origin was intense and eerie and said a lot about both characters in that one scene and at least in the context of their relationship. This was never intended to be a joker movie. Why would we expect the depth of psychology of his character be treated as such?
+Rythmbot different people don't like Leto's joker for different reasons. Some don't like him for reasons I stated and some don't like him for reasons you stated. Different people like different things for different reasons. That's why I said some or half or a lot. I'm not implying all don't like the character for the same reasons
+Conor Climo I agree. There are also recent comics that also explore the character being a mob boss, and crime boss like Azzarello's joker.
Ian Jackson So what exactly did that scene with the chemicals say about the Joker? He almost lets her die but then he has a second thought and goes back to save her. Why? That isn't explained at all. You may say, "because he loved her" but what is it about her that he loves? He wants to walk away but something makes him go back. So why did he want her to fall in the pit in the first place and what changed his mind? It's true, there could be a lot of reasons for this but the point is that the movie doesn't give us any answers. It's just random. You can't invent explanations for plot holes in movies that aren't actually there. There is nothing in the movie that sheds any light on that. And to answer your question of 'why you should expect depth from the Joker's character'? Don't you think the filmmakers should respect their audience enough to actually put effort into making their characters believable? It's one thing to not bother giving depth and motive and risk to an extra or something. But for god sakes the reason they put the Joker in this movie was because he is the most iconic comic book villain of all time. You shouldn't spend time defending a movie made by people who don't respect you enough to show you something decent.
Great video liked it a lot
Why didn't you talk about endgame and the pale man?
Do you wanna know how I got these sca...."All that chitchat's gonna get'cha hurt"
Weird how you didn't show any footage from Suicide Squad's Joker, like he doesn't exist...
I don't think they have footage other than the trailers. Although acting like Leto didn't happen would be for the best.
Let's give him a chance to shine on the upcoming Batman movie
He sucks......so they did a good thing not showing that garbage in this video.
+Akib Hassan Maruf why exactly
He doesn't.
Best portrayals were by Heath Ledger and definitely Camron Monaghan. Iconic!
Here after the 2019 Joker Trailer!
Random movie production fact: The scene in The Dark Knight in which The Joker is struggling to blow up the hospital with his hand held detonator, was a well played, improv by the irreplaceable Heath Ledger. The pyrotechnics team got the timing wrong, and didn't blow the building up as Ledger was trying to hit the switch. Rather than do another take, Ledger simply made it appear that his device malfunctioned. His surprised reaction to the explosion was real, as he thought it wasn't going to happen.
Hey guys did you know Bruce Wayne's parents died??
What no way! spoilers man spoilers gosh! lmao
wait if batman's parents died, how was he born lol
thanks man, I might as well never watch a batman movie ever again now
batman v superman
MARTHA!!!
batman - favourite superhero
joker - favourite villain
So what happened at the end of the "Batman: The Killing Joke" movie? Did Batman become insane or did he genuinely find what the Joker said funny and did they become friends? I was so confused by the ending.
Bats Killed Me
I think he was laughing in a ironic way. I think that because it appears in the comic he killed him while laughing.
there's a theory that batman killed joker. but they also could've just shared a laugh. they didn't become friends.
I think they have been enemies for so long that it's almost as if they have become frenemies, I think it was a moment of piece different from their usual dance of catching joker and jailing him.
seeing as though DC comics has multiple universes, the safest bet is to say he killed joker but also didnt.
finally the redux version of the joker's origin, thank you!
Who’s here because of a 2019 movie name The Joker?
They also forgot that times in Batman (1989) when he did the following:
Tainted several products with Smilex Gas.
Vandalized the paintings in the Gotham Museum.
When he tried to kill every one with Smelix gas;
Ok, I haven't read the comic books, and Watchmojo is contradictory to itself, so tell me. In the first Watchmojo Joker origin video, using The Killing Joke, they said that the man-turned-Joker was nameless. Here, they say his name is Jack.
1. Which one is true?
2. If his name is Jack, is his last name (like I sometimes hear) Napier?
OK. Thanks. That helps.
This si the issue with DC comics all the villians and heros have different origin stories.
it is complicated you need to read all the origins and then make up your mind for one of them
In the Killing Joke he is nameless. Jack Napier comes from the Batman movie with Jack Nicholson.
Well most recently the joker is actually three different people......yeah try to understand that
Please do a "Top 10 Best Batman Storylines You Should Read"
"Batman is teaching a criminology course, because... The Fifties." Hilarious. Love it!
hawkeye18100 sadly im to young to understand this joke
@@OGKWAM Teacher Batman
Through all of the updated and different origins, it has to be said that Jack Napier is the true identity behind The Joker
Renato Costa Jack Napier has only been used for the Burton films.
Why so SERIOUS???
Ily
"The id to his superego" I really like this line :) well placed sir
see this is what i didnt see in jared letos joker. he was psychotic and all but wasnt a fun comical it was more like mobster mentality
Like Jack Nicholson
+Romefeller And yet, you still dont understand this video...
Romefeller Joker has been a gangster before but it still feels like the Joker, Jared was just there tbh
Almost every origin revamp has to end with him falling into a vat of chemicals
Best villain its a fact
In The Killing Joke, he is never called by name.
can someone tell of a good app to read all these comics for free?
I want one too
I tend to watch comicstorian or ComicsExplanined
Idk an app but there's a website where I read comics all the time for free and it's called readcomiconline.to ! :)
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What about the origin story that said he has been the joker for hundreds of years because wen he was young he found a lazorth pit and Everytime he went in it he got more deranged and thru history he was known as the pale man who laughs
Jack Nicholson joker is just legendary and right below him Heath ledger.
The new one is really bad
bandwagon
heath ledger was great in his own respects but nothing like the REAL joker. He like everyone else in Nolan's film played his own version of the character which isn't bad or wrong but it definitely isn't the joker as he should be portrayed.
leto wasn't bad the joker was bas, but supposedly that's not even joker it's Jason todd
Nicholson's really wasn't that great. It just gets a pass for nostalgia nowadays
+Grim no it fucking isn't. Stop with this theory already