Dark Lies of Cults that Bewitch People into False Doctrines and Religious Elitism
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Quick clip from Baptist Pastor Charles Lawson preaching about the danger of cult like religious elitism, and my explanation of the dangers of TULIP theology and a couple of outrageous video clips from prominent Calvinist pastors Voddie Baucham and Paul Washer that highlight a major doctrinal error in Calvinism / Reformed Theology.
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There is a group of believers that believe God is sovereign, but still recognize man’s free will to reject him.
A group that believes that a sinner must first be drawn of God through conviction, but also believes that the Grace required for salvation has appeared unto all men.
A group who holds to the fact that once a man has submitted to the righteousness of God and believed for salvation, that the life he receives is eternal, having been sealed by the Holy Spirit.
A group that believes that salvation is by grace through faith alone, but also believes that once a man is saved he is a new creature and his salvation is to be evidenced by his works.
We are neither Calvinist nor Armenian…. WE ARE BIBLE BELIEVERS…
Yes!!!! May I add that we are Born Again Believers 🙌
I really appreciate that post and the way you put that. Lean towards Calvinist thinking generally most of my favorite preachers are but truthfully if it’s some who loves Gods word and handling it rightly I don’t care what they are. Predestination is a place I struggled with and people get worked up at me about
@@DumbSheep88 I love the way J Vernon McGee put it. On the outside of heaven’s gate is a sign saying “whosoever will may come, from any nation and tongue”. When you get in, a sign on the inside says “the elect, chosen of God before the foundation of the world”.
Don’t ever let the debate of these topics confuse you. If you want to come to Christ, you can. Let God figure the rest out. Also, notice how whenever the Bible is talking to the unsaved or about the way for them, it’s always whosoever will and giving them the gospel and condition. The passages talking about predestination, election, and God choosing, (such as 2 Thess 2:13, Romans 8:29-30), are only addressed to believers when teaching them.
@@Bufforp1ngt0n predestination and election make sense to because God is eternal outside of time….. omnipotence? I think that the right Omni . Now I do not get it the whole big argument and wouldn’t dare say someone isn’t going to get in the gates due to there understanding of something’s. I do believe there is false teachings and heresy but but I think Armenians Calvinist and other outlooks are wasting their time calling out each other there’s way more dangerous things to the body than that. And I’d honestly like this guy a lot more if he wasn’t on an anti-Calvinist mission.
@@Bufforp1ngt0n and what I meant by that was is, I don’t know how God could be all those things and sovereign over everything and not know who would be saved, and who wouldn’t be saved, and there is scripture that says he chose us before the foundation of the world before we would ever make an action to accept or not accept. But I think if someone else sees it differently thats just part of this God isn’t some simple Being. Also I can’t imagine all the things we are going to be so far off on when we do make it lol. I think the LORD would say you guys made it way more complicated than it had to be! lol idk maybe I’m off on that. I still try to study to show myself approved to the Lord.
I watch Pastor Lawson, too. I love his sermons. He is a very wise man. Amen ❤
If you believe on the finished work of Christ you are saved ! Acts 16:29-31 29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” Time to speak the truth. up to the rapture you won't find repent from sin in the Bible. Repent FOR remission of sins is in Acts chapter 2:38 Acts 2:38 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Read the verse carefully, it says Repent and be baptized FOR the forgiveness of sins. Do you get baptized every time you sin???.Peter was speaking to the Jewish people who sacrificed animals for their sin now they had to turn away from that belief and believe Jesus paid for all sin. 1 John 3: 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. How are we born again ? 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. If you don’t believe on the finished work of Christ because you add works then you are not born again 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. Galatians 3:21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
He sure is! I'm blessed to have found him several years ago ❤🙏
he does such a amazing wonderful job ive been really enjoying his preachings as well.Yahweh God almighty bless you shine his face upon you and your family always shalom :)
@@bobbyleck9196 Amen! God bless you ❤🙏
@@bobbyleck9196 who does an amazing job? Pastor Lawson ? He teaches repentance of sin therefore is not saved and is leading people to hell ! If you believe on the finished work of Christ you are saved ! Acts 16:29-31 29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” Time to speak the truth. up to the rapture you won't find repent from sin in the Bible. Repent FOR remission of sins is in Acts chapter 2:38 Acts 2:38 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Read the verse carefully, it says Repent and be baptized FOR the forgiveness of sins. Do you get baptized every time you sin???.Peter was speaking to the Jewish people who sacrificed animals for their sin now they had to turn away from that belief and believe Jesus paid for all sin. 1 John 3: 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. How are we born again ? 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. If you don’t believe on the finished work of Christ because you add works then you are not born again 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. Galatians 3:21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
After understanding Calvinism 2 years ago, my initial thoughts were that this completely "other gospel" has SO MANY features similar to cults...elitism, twisted view of Christ, only we "have the truth", etc., etc., etc.,. I find it to be a very corrupt and dangerous doctrine. I love Calvinists, but simply 100% reject their MANY twisted views of scripture.
It is anti-Christ, make no mistake.
Love your quip: Dead people cannot sin either. Good point. They take it literal only when it suits them.
Hey, i thought that was a great comment as well
I am from India & pastor Charles Lawson is at no# 1 always. He is my favourite preacher & no one can replace him from him i have learnt alot. I love him so much & wish to meet him someday or in heaven for eternity.❤
I had the same thought about Pastor Charles Lawson's comments on cults - sounds like Calvinism.
In Matthew 18, Jesus doesn't seem concerned about which of those beautiful children were chosen from before the foundation of the world for salvation, and which of these little children were predestined to perish. He knows that, because of the cross, every one of them and all future generations of children, will be drawn to Him with the God-given ability to seek him, reach out for him, and find him, because he will never be far from each and every one of them. That’s the true gospel!
Thanks, Brian
amen, brother
I’ve been Christian since I was born and my parents have raised me in the ways of the Lord. Yes I have sinned many times but so does everyone and every Christian especially but I’ve always repented for that and followed Jesus. I for sure wasn’t a viper in a diaper. What Voddie Baucham and Paul Washer said about Babies is flat out evil and the audience laughing along is just sickening.
Please provide the passage in Scripture that states that someone can be born a Christian? To me, that is absolutely wrong and a lie of the devil, because it directly contradicts the Gospel of Salvation. I'm quite sure that Brian as well as probably 99% of the people here would strongly disagree with you, even Calvinists.
dude you cant be born into christianity the bible is very specific no one on the planet is born a Christian just because you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God does not make you a Christian. Satan believes in the son of God does that make him a christian? NO! you have to receive the holy spirit and give up all other idols in your life. The truth is anyone who says they were born a Christian is Anti Christ because that is not how it works in they eyes of God.
If you believe on the finished work of Christ you are saved ! Acts 16:29-31 29 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30 He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” Time to speak the truth. up to the rapture you won't find repent from sin in the Bible. Repent FOR remission of sins is in Acts chapter 2:38 Acts 2:38 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Read the verse carefully, it says Repent and be baptized FOR the forgiveness of sins. Do you get baptized every time you sin???.Peter was speaking to the Jewish people who sacrificed animals for their sin now they had to turn away from that belief and believe Jesus paid for all sin. 1 John 3: 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. How are we born again ? 1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. If you don’t believe on the finished work of Christ because you add works then you are not born again 1 Corinthians 6:12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. Galatians 3:21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
You were born into a family of faith, that did not make you christian. Being christian requires repetance, + confession then faith placed in Christ.
@@Veretax That’s true. But the point I’m trying to make is that babies aren’t “vipers in diapers” or in any way evil and for these guys to say that is flat out sickening.
Lord help us! 😢 I can't believe there are actually people listening to and laughing with these cult preachers, portraying babies as evil. It's INSANITY.
Unless we are born again we are at any age dirty rotten sinner sorry but it's God taking not me get mad at him.
@@anthonystroman8407wow!
What does that have to do with believing evil? Babies don't have sin! We are only accountable for our own sin, not someone else's. The Bible tells us so.
this is outstanding. thanks brother. I join you in this fight against this awful false teaching. stay strong keep pressing forward
Amen brother! Let's keeping fighting the good fight! God bless you!
I don't recall ever listening to Charles Lawson before, though I most definitely had previously heard of him. So, Brian, after watching your video, I found the first sermon that popped up, titled, "The Church Marrying the World", and listened to it. I found it to be of what I'd describe as being a bit lighter than what I normally like from a sermon, but certainly nothing bad in it. Then at the end, the last three minutes, he said some things which I think need repeating:
"You're on a journey. People mean well. You come down to the altar and you pray. They'll say, "Now you're saved. You prayed the sinner's prayer." They mean well. They're trying to help you. But that doesn't mean you're saved. What may happen to you is that what's working inside your soul is the beginning of a drawing God. It's the of the light shining in your heart. You're realizing a need to be born again. But during this process, you haven't really come to the point to where you can exercise saving faith in the Lord Jesus Christ."
"You call upon God out of a believing heart and at that moment He'll save you, write your name in the Lamb's Book of Life, and when that ever happens to you, you'll know it from that day forward and nothing will ever be able to change it and the Lord Jesus Christ becomes everything to you. Not your religion, not your church, not your pastor, not your leaders, but Christ, the Son of God, from that day you fall in love with Him and you'll love Him for the rest of your life. Have you been there?"
Those issues are some of the very most important for anyone who wants to be or professes to be a Christian. Do we have a "saving faith" instead of a dead faith? Just repeating a sinner's prayer, even if we mean it, does not automatically give us that "saving faith". Brian, I wish you would make more videos on what is that "saving faith" that Pastor Lawson mentions, because I fear so very many Christians have absolutely no idea what a saving faith is. I was one of those, who for decades professed to be a Christian, yet I lacked a real saving faith. My faith was merely a superficial asserting to the facts of who God and Jesus Christ were, having some sorrow for my sin, but not anything more, yet I thought it meant I was a Christian, because I once prayed the sinner's prayer.
In the second paragraph I quoted from Pastor Lawson, he seems to be upholding the P in TULIP - the perseverance of the saints, when he says, "you'll love Him for the rest of your life." And, based on my experience, at least so far, after becoming a true Christian, it seems to be correct. I cannot imagine ever leaving Him and not loving Him. Yes, of course I stumble often in my life, but never do I stop loving Him. And, as told to us in 1 John 5:1-4, "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith."
If we ever stop loving God, it is proof that we never had a saving faith to begin with. And if we truly have a saving faith, we will love God, want to obey Him, and will continue in that love/obedience, albeit not always perfect.
Brian, you spend an inordinate amount of time on making videos opposing Calvinism. I only wish you'd devote a fraction of that time/effort on teaching about what is true saving faith, and how one can be assured that their life/heart bears fruit that is an indication that their faith as that true saving faith. I fear that countless numbers of professing Christians are heading to destruction, because they were told by some pastor that they're saved, because of a prayer they prayed, when they absolutely are not, just as I was.
For anyone reading this, if you want assurance of your salvation (if you have true salvation), or are willing to be convicted of your lack of real salvation, if that's the case, then read and read and read again 1 John until it really sets in and shows you your true heart. That's what I did after doubting my salvation for so long, and God, via His Word, showed me the truth, and I realized my faith was a dead faith, and in realizing that, came to a true saving faith in our wonderous Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I remember before I even knew about Calvinism I saw that viper in a diaper sermon and thought it was awesome. After understanding Calvinism it's the worst thing I ever heard.
Love your videos.
The vipers in diapers saying is from one of their calvinist heros. I don't remember which one of these depraved men said it, but im positive it was a man. Because their women aren't quoted. They would have to be allowed to speak first. That clip from Paul Washer is just typical Washer for you. It's always tge most outrageous and demented scenario possible with him. God forbid he say something nice about a tiny, little, innocent baby. He would have to actually think something nice first, and that is beyond his ability. Great point, though, showing the glaring contradiction between what a calvinist believes about children and what Jesus knows about them!
Yes, great point. Keep in mind Voddie Baucham also said that God makes our babies small so they won't kill us. He and Paul Washer have such zeal for their false Calvinistic doctrines that they make up outrageous fantasies about babies becoming giant evil killers the size of an 18 year old. And the sad thing is that many people are so willingly gullible that they believe them!
I've been watching him for years and he's truly a blessing, I've learned so much. God bless 🙏
You putting these men Voddie and Paul as cultists are just extreme.
They are the extremists who concoct crazy imaginations such as evil snake babies (vipers in diapers) and strange fantasies about evil giant baby killers.
Calvanism is evil and corrupt
I'm with you Brian...The Doctrines of Grace/Disgrace are Blasphemy...God help us...
Love your content! We need to continue to raise awareness of the error and danger of Reformed/ Calvinistic doctrine and its consequences- the worse being that it maligns the very character of the God we serve!
Your thumbnail here describes calvinism to the very T of TULIP .
Excellent video and biblical insights Brian. Thanks for sharing. I will have to check out brother Lawson. I listen to Andy Woods and Jack Hibbs to name a few.
The heart is deceitful above all things,and desperately wicked:who can know it ? Jer.17:9📖
Okay, Jeremiah said that but he also said this in Jeremiah 29: 13 "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your *heart* ."
Jesus said in Matthew 5: 8, "Blessed are the pure in *heart* , for they shall see God."
Proverbs 3: 5 "Trust in the Lord with all thine *heart* ; and lean not unto thine own understanding."
Paul starts out Romans 10: 1 saying, "Brethren, *my heart's desire* and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved." Is that a wicked thought? I don't think so.
In fact Paul wrote in Romans 10: 9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine *heart* that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the *heart* man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Jesus even gave us the greatest commandment, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy *heart* , and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind."
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.Psa.58:3
Voddie Bauchem and Paul Washer have some demented views of children. I like the other end of the scale of Catholics who imagine that their children are absolute angels and could never do anything bad. Yeah, the more I hear about Calvinism, the more I find it repulsive and should be exposed for it's darkness, and perverted perspective. Another good learning experience about Calvinism on this channel!!
Jean Cauvin made a religion in the image of his dark twisted heart. That is not hyperbole one bit. If you dig into the works of the real man in Geneva, you will get one jaw dropping shock after another. That's my experience. It took several years because of all the candy coated garbage and lies written/spoken about him to paint a totally different picture. It all boils down to Jesus's words....."you will know them by their works."
All those great stories about how wonderful and "progressive" he was...are 100% lies. I used to believe them. Once the real man was uncovered then it became easy to see why his religion is the darkness that it is, its modeled step for step after Jean Cauvin's own self.
You know, this may sound cliché but listen you are one of the many reasons I believe God still hears us and answers the prayers of the saints. I remember many months ago I was in this phase of confusion because of some these reformed preachers all over the internet in fact one very popular one.
I prayed for days non-stop using Jesus' own words from John 14 and 16 about sending us the Holy Spirit who is our Helper and Counsellor and the Spirit of all Truth to guide me through this confusion.
Funny enough I stumbled on Leighton Flowers, Jesse Morell, Gene Kim and eventually arrived here. You are indeed a breath of fresh air and I cannot thank God more for truth that truly sets free.
I honestly can't thank God enough how I've outgrown their brand of pseudo-intellectual gimmicks. Thank you Brian. My prayer is that you'll end well.
That is very nice of you to share. Much appreciated. Thanks for the encouraging words! God bless you!
The irony is that Calvinists will agree with Psalm 139 that says God knits us together in the womb. In their world of theology he is knitting a despicable, evil, wicked sinner. Complete and utter theological lunacy and heresy.
I do not believe in Calvinism, but also do not believe that they are cultish.
Matt.18 is an allegory to teach is to believe in Jesus without doubting, as a child will trust their father who loves them unconditionally. I also believe that we are all born in sin and falling short of the glory of God and we are all in need of the salvation of Christ Jesus. A child will grow up with own free will and have to choose between right and wrong, and be held accountable for themselves as soon as they can distinguish the difference. All will be judged by Jesus, according what they know, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord.
they are cultish, they follow the teachings of a man, John Calvin, No different than Joseph Smith, Jim Jones, L Ron Hubbard, or David Koresh, pick your favorite cult leader. My leader is the Lord Jesus Christ, not some junk a man created.
I heard a Calvinist leader say that if you speak in tongues you are Demonized . Could this be Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit ? Were the Apostles Demonized ?
I would not think so given that the Calvinist just spoke a generality in total ignorance, which they so often do. However when the Holy Spirit does manifest a specific miraculous work through a Christian and another person acknowledges that the miracle is real but says it is done by the power of demons, then that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit according to what Jesus said to the religious leaders.
Rejecting total depeavity does not mean denying original sin, or that we are all sinners. Excellent video!
I love Pastor Lawson. What he said applies to any cult. That man is very wise on many matters. He reminds me so much of the way the small town Baptist preachers sounded when it was growing up. He just makes sense. He’s one of a dying breed.
Love him and respect him very much.
I pity their children. I have some Calvinists in my family from whom I had to depart completely. I recall the way they disciplined their children. Terrible and shocking to have to overhear. Gave me nightmares. Love Charles Lawson, love you.
My wife grew up NOI and her father due to his understanding of NOI did a horrible job raising his family, but I have enough wisdom and discernment unlike you and Brian to know that not all NOI fathers raise their family the same way.
@@rogervincent2092 It's funny you should construe my brief comment on the experience with my family as an indictment on all fathers informed on childraising by the Calvinist cult. I don't know how these other fathers whom I don't know treat their children, but I shudder to think how Voddie Baucham and what's his name raised theirs, if their attitude towards children which they clearly state is any indication.
@rogervincent2092 You must be quite young to speak the way you do my friend. So tell me , just how Full of discernment are you pray tell ?
@helenem4586 "I PITY THEIR CHILDREN" You want to lie some more? If you do, I will only be too happy to call you out on it.
@@cecilspurlockjr.9421Only more than people who make absolutely ridiculous assertions. Does that answer your question?
They also dont believe in healings and speaking in tongues. Calvinist say that ended in the first century. And speaking in tougues ended as well. Calvinst believe speaking in tongues is demonic. Thats the only unforgivable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Great video Brian. Yes exactly...they preach the polar opposite.
Calvinists ' "Man is so totally depraved he can't & won't seek God he is unwilling & incapable"
Scripture: You were born when & where you were born to seek God (Acts 17:26-31).
It would be funny if it was such a travisty of how they corrupt the word of God & turn our Heavenly Father into an evil arbitrary Puppet Master.
Great video! I appreciate how diligently you share the message.
Thanks very much for the kind words. God bless you!
That's right Brian. We ain't scared.❤
Not sure if I'm out of context here but Paul says he was alive without the law once. I see this as a declaration of the age of accountability. I still remember the first time I recognized my own personal sin. I don't remember the sin, but I clearly remember the conviction when I knew it without being told it was wrong.
Romans 7:9 (KJV) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Romans 7:10 (KJV) And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Romans 7:11 (KJV) For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Romans 7:12 (KJV) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Thank God, we are given the gift freely by believing in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Word/God made flesh.
THANK YOU for explaining this!
Pastor Lawson is the best preacher on RUclips, you get more Jesus in a 30-minute Lawson sermon than you'll find anywhere - Lord willing, I'm going to visit his church one day soon
@kristophstjames4143 Amen to that! He's a true blessing....
God bless you brother.
Amen, I love when we use scripture to back up what we're saying, and in proper context 🙏
I can't think of that guy's name that you showed a little video clip of about children being evil and what have you lol... that guy, more than all of them truly rubs me in a very very bad way...I don't like John MacArthur either but that other guy, I can't think of his name, anyway he's evil as far as I'm concerned.. I get such a revolt in my spirit when I hear him. . Many Christians don't know he's a calvinist, I was one of them that didn't know.. what I did know is that he loved to get people afraid and terrified that they weren't going to heaven... Like Charles Lawson said in one of his videos, "the people that go around trying to condemn everyone are the very people who are condemned themselves"... Anyway completely appreciate your video as always, God bless you 🤗🌷
Believe you are referring to Paul Washer.
He was talking about the honesty of a child a child can be taught the caracter of a child but yet that child and any human being is born into sin.
I never taught my child character. He was born with it. Right, we are born into sin, that's why we must get saved.
Thanks Brian. Pastor Lawson described Jehovah's Witnesses. I know, I was there. Thank God I can see thru that. Still learning. Thanks for your help.
That's insane what they are saying. I wonder about them. If they're even saved.
So if we aren't born with a sin nature why do all humans sin? Why do 2 yr. olds throw temper tantrums? Are you saying that we don't all sin?
We have flesh inclined to sin because we are descended from Adam. We were in his loins when he sinned. But Augustinian Original Sin and sin nature are not found anywhere in scripture. He needed justification for infant baptism to increase political power and got the idea from pagans who were dipping their babies to emulate the story of Achilles. Had nothing to do with the Bible.
Biblically, two year olds do not sin--they are not capable of sinning because they lack the mental capacity to do so. There's a reason the Hebrews believed in an age of accountability that was repeated over and over throughout the OT.
Romans 7:9-11 literally says we are born spiritually alive and die spiritually when we willfully sin--when we know right from wrong and choose wrong. So babies are not born evil. But the spirit of sin comes to life in them when they come to know the law.
Total depravity is a lie. To believe such is to deny that we are made in God's image.
Perhaps God bestows a lot of grace on children who haven't decided against the Lord, being so young as to not really be aware of him.
@@tannerfrancisco8759 You begin by stating that "We have flesh inclined to sin because we are descended from Adam"; which is basically the doctrine of original sin, which you then attack as something that Augustine made up in order to justify infant baptism. You then state that a sin nature is not found anywhere in the Bible. But Paul calls it "the flesh." And in Romans 7 Paul goes on to state "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find" (v. 18).
Where do sinful passions, lusts and desires come from? Why two year olds through temper tantrums? Why do young children lie, steal, and hit others? Do you mean that if there was no law there would be no works of the flesh?
God did not created us totally depraved. We became totally depraved when we fell. (By "total depravity" we mean that sin has affected every part of our being, including are ability to think and reason. Read Eph. 4:17-19.)
see my comment, please.
JWs say “Babies are little enemies of God” it’s so gross
That is bad. Psalm 127: 3-5 says something very different, that children are a blessing from God.
This is the clincher for me. I cringe when any of the sermons I watch from otherwise solid teaching for the most part, start talking about evil babies. Now you used old footage, but this is so true about Calvinists and it is what gives them away. MacArthur was the one I first heard it from. Of course, it doesnt matter that babies have undeveloped brains. Actually I have read that a human brain doesnt fully develop until the age of 20: surprisingly that is what the Old Testament uses to begin adulthood and responsibility see Exodus 30:14. Similar example in 1 Chronicles. This is, at least, for men. Women are treated differently and their expectations come at a much younger age. Notice all these men pastors talk about a baby, but say "he" and won't apply this to a baby girl. I wonder why that is. On the other hand, pastor Charles Lawson has and continues to support capable women who show interest in serving in some type of leadership in his church. Anyway, good to see you Brian. Let's get back to positive bible studies and not so much doing what everyone else is doing, which is talking about each other. Love you brother. ❤
Yea those celebrity calvinist pastors not just say dum things they also believe in worse things then that. I can see that calvinists also have this cult feature which is saying the Gospel message to people to lure them in and never present their doctrines in the start they call it giving milk to the babes and then when calvinists think the men are ready they give them meat which is doctrines of Grace. It is that way cause if they would present 5 points from the start there would be no new calvinists joining.
Brother Charles Lawson is also one of my favorite preachers the past year(s). I don't remember exactly when I discovered his sermons.
I thought the bible says we are born sinners. You say we are not???
The Bible gives us reasons that sin is not imputed to a person, including all young children. You may want to do a study on that in Scripture if you have not done so.
we are born with a sinful nature but babies are innocent, and so are people who are born with mental disabilities, God doesn't send babies and the mentally handicapped to Hell to burn for eternity, Calvinists believe that he does.
@@faithonfireministriesFor it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Ruach Ha'Qodesh, And have tasted the good Word of Elohiym, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they execute again to themselves theSon of Elohiym, and put him to an open shame. IVRIYM 6:4-6.
@@kristophstjames4143 I thought original sin was a basic Christian doctrine
@@Neil-yg5gm It comes from pagan Gnosticism which Augustine of Hippo was as a Manichean before he "converted" to Christianity. There were/are a variety of Gnostic branches floating around the Med and Middle East. One trait they shared was the "good god" and "evil god" idea. As Augustine went along he inserted pieces of the Gnosticism into the church which was accepted as he was held in high regard. Predestination was another Gnostic idea.
Thanks for highlighting Charles Lawson. I just discovered him about a year ago. A powerful and truthful teacher.
I definitely don’t hold to much that Kenneth Copeland does, but isn’t it awful that Justin Peters says he believes Copeland is demon possessed?
garyleuba3036 He is demon possessed. He preaches another gospel too. He actually has said that Jesus was a failure, so.....
@user-qs2hn1xo3l you may be right about that…
Their hatred for children is so demonic and contrary to what God says and feels about children! Also, i didn't know Voddie Baucham was also a Calvinist(i just knew i couldn't listen to him past 2 minutes) .Someone told me he isn't. They're such liars!
Charles always says the Bible does talk about the elect and people are elected. But it never says only the elect can be saved.
Sure, election is in the Bible. Biblical election is unto service, not unto salvation as Calvinists claim. Many people are called elect or chosen in the Bible who rejected God and turned to Baal and other idols, or in the New Testament rejected Christ and were never saved. Sometimes the elect does refer to Christians, but not in the sense they are elected to become Christians but that they are already Christians and therefore elected to serve Christ and preach the Gospel, fulfilling the Great Commission and doing ministry equipped by the Holy Spirit with certain spiritual gifts or roles in the Church.
@faithonfireministries Exactly. Anything that raises yourself up instead of the Lord Jesus Christ is an extremely dangerous mindset to be in. All these false doctrines have one thing in common, they are special because of some knowledge not found in the gospel or Bible. And they always raise themselves up with it, not the Lord.
Self-righteousness will send more people to hell than anything. We are blessed the Lord gave us a way out. It's all about what He did, not what we do or don't do. He died for ALL, and salvation is available for anyone. From the drug addicted prostitute to the little old lady who's never cussed, drank, or smoked, in church every time the doors open. Both are sinners needing Jesus. The sad thing is that the drug addict is easier to witness to. Because she knows she's a sinner. The little old lady believes she's good enough.
Thanks for your response. Just found your channel last night. Great content. Keep it up!
Perseverance of the saints is perhaps the most stupid point of the 5th, if God controls, who is elect, when he gives grace, doesn't let you resist, how the heck do you think he'd leave your destination up to your own human designs? ROFL
Sadly, more denominations than not fit into the lost category, living according to the traditions of men instead of living by the word of God.
I Have attended a Baptist church for most of my Christian life, never have gone to a Calvinist church. What I find interesting when I decided to look at where I stand concerning the elect, is the fact that both sides use the same scripture to back up and make their point for their belief. (both are very compelling) I know God is a just God, and the Bible tells us He does what He pleases, I certainly have no idea why he does some things the way he does, but He does. Another thing that I have often thought about, is that everything you can see, everything you lay your eyes upon has a creator. Now I'm not comparing us to a product or an automobile, but all of these creators, create products to specifically destroy, these products that are created by their creator were doomed from the beginning. I retired from the fire department of 35 years, Ford Motor company had a program where we would get a car hauler of brand-new vehicles, including Lincoln's, just to cut up, and train on. These vehicles were never intended for anything more, that was their purpose. So why can't God do whatever he wants, its right or wrong because he says it is. Personally, I don't want to believe that God picks some for heaven and not others. One thing I do know and believe, if you have a desire to be saved and know and follow God, then He's not going to say no.
If believers can lose their salvation, then grace is not grace because for believers to be saved, they ought not to do something that will make them loose their salvation. In other words it is by their deeds of not sinning that is going to take them to heaven, then what becomes the essence of grace?
Perseverance of the Saints. Yes, children of light are to persevere in a world filled with darkness. They become the light wherever they go according to their master. If you think it is all about roses and flowers then think again. For the sake of our faith and expressing the faith through trials for the unbelieving to witness to also come into the Faith is of outmost importance.
There’s good in all people trying to follow Christ. There will always be variations in doctrine between people. There were arguments in the early Church. But we should always strive to follow the Word as closely as possible. However you were if you are one of the Lords chosen from since before the beginning..
I love the Lord and His word, I am nothing, I am asking, seeking, and knocking for the truth of Gods word, one of the largest bible studies you can undertake is false prophets and false doctrine, it starts in Genesis 3 and goes all the way through Revelation.
The fact that God has so much to say about that subject tells me that getting our doctrine right matters a lot,
For example there will not be any liars in Heaven, rev 21:8 says so.
False doctrine/teaching is lying and unrepented sin is not going to Heaven.
That is why we must get it right, and the only way is if we are being guided by the Holy Ghost.
That is definitely such a telling red flag even his audience laughs😳 are they reading the same Bible?... Hmm, yes, they are but all the while proof texting their way around what doesn't fit their systematic!!! Seems a bit Thomas Jefferson to me or at best different lenses because of their indoctrination 😢. I also remember in a sermon from MacArthur, which seems to always be painful to watch for me.. he basically asks his congregation a simple question pertaining to Scripture, and no one answers, so he jokingly mocks them. I mean, really! shame on them for not knowing, but more so shame on him and his elevated (imaginary) pedestal..🌻
I don't understand how Calvinists can believe that
Christ died for our sins, as the Scriptures say,
that he was buried and was raised to life on the third day
And yet deny nearly everything else He says
does and shows
The Father as Jesus revealed Him (God) to be
and the testimony of how
the Father (God) relates to actual people in the Bible
What Calvinists believe is the antithetical doctrines of grace
They don't fit the overall testimony of Scripture
These are two of the worst at showing how to distort the
Fathers revelation of these things
What is wrong with the idea of original sin ? Scriptual replies only please .
"T" isn't just inheriting sin from Adam, it's inheriting the guilt for said sins.
T of TULIP is consistently proven not true in the Bible including right at the beginning when sin first happens in Genesis 3. After Adam and Eve sinned they didn't lose the ability to talk with God, or to understand what God was saying, nor did they lose their ability to receive from God. They received clothes of skin from God and they held a conversation with God in God's presence. And the same is true with Cain after he sinned, killing his brother Abel.
@@faithonfireministries no argument here. I was simply pointing out that “T” goes deeper than many Calvinists will openly acknowledge. They like to represent it as “we inherit sin or a sin nature”, while soft pedaling the fact that you are actually judged guilty for Adam’s crimes. The doctrine is directly antithetical to Scripture and we all know that.
I believe God told me I am of the elect. It is my understanding that the elect are chosen preordained by God. However, salvation is not guaranteed. The bible says even the elect will be decieved in the last days. That does NOT mean all the elect.
My understanding is that the elect are to be the light to others and draw them to God so they can be saved. There are no guarantees of salvation. It is still an individual's choice to turn to God every day.
I'm not a Calvinist, but we're born in sin, therefore having a sinful nature; are we not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies? Did not David say "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.”? Babies aren't taught so sin, rather it is their (our) very nature to sin.
David's baby died and David acknowledged He will one day go to where his dead baby is, which is in the presence of the Lord. If Calvinism were true then David would have no assurance whatsoever that his dead baby was one of the elect that died and went to heaven. He is acknowledging where all babies who die go. And that verse you quoted does not say David was born a sinner at all. Read it again! It says he was brought forth in iniquity. Does a baby bring forth itself or do parents bring forth a baby? Didn't your parents ever teach you about the birds and the bees? And the next part... that is not his iniquity he is speaking of. "In sin my mother conceived me." Who was in sin in that part of the text, David or his mother? His mother obviously as the text plainly says.
Jesus in Matthew 18 affirmed that a child is considered innocent by God which is why Jesus told the adults they must be like a child to enter into heaven. If the age of accountability was not a true concept in Scripture and children were considered sinners by God, then what Jesus said means adults must be like sinners in order to enter heaven, and we know that would make no sense since the blood of Christ washed away the sins of every believer, and by the Grace of God believers are justified before God, seen as in the righteous of Christ who knew no sin and was perfectly righteous.
I liked your points here.
Love love your content.
Thanks so much for the encouraging word. God bless you!
List of YT Faithful Men of God teaching the True Gospel of Jesus Christ. Pastor Charles Lawson (TN), Bishop Wooden (NC), Pastor Marc Monte (IN), Pastor Ralph Yankee Arnold (FL), and my new favorite Pastor from Minnesota who has a 7-video series on "Trojan horses in the Church" Great Series. And of course I like Faith on Fire. Hey I know there are lots of Bible verses that completely refute Calvinism but every time I hear them start with their t for total depravity I am always reminded by the holy spirit that the word of God says that God dealt to every man The measure of Faith! The verse that says God dealt to every man The measure of Faith is the one and only verse needed to completely refute the t of tulip. RC Sproul died a heretic.
Revelation 22:18
Ive listened to lawson for a time,but he seemed to lean heavy on behaviour of believers unto salvation a couple months ago, he seemed to be going through something at the time,he touched on it but didn't go into it.
I hope he's doing better now,haven't listened for few weeks.
@mrjesabi He's still going strong. You can tell at times he's still burdened and he seems to have slowed down some from his preaching. But he's been called by God to preach and will do so until God takes him. His words....
Hebrews 6:4
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Ruach Ha'Qodesh, And have tasted the good Word of Elohiym, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they execute again to themselves theSon of Elohiym, and put him to an open shame. IVRIYM 6:4-6.
Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;KJV
Believing in original sin from birth, total depravity doesnt make one a cult. Brian has forgotten that Pelagius and semi pelagians who rejected total depravity were condemned by the church in history as heretics.
It is so typical of a lying Calvinist to try to discredit Bible believers by associating them with Pelagius. I believe in the Trinity. Does that make me a Catholic now too? Idiotic comment!
@@faithonfireministries Nothing new the past 500 yrs. Do your research on the 4 views of salvation -
Augustinian
Semi Augustinian
Semi pelagian
Pelagian
You would fall under any one of them, most likely semi pelagian if you are a provisionist. Educated scholars are fully aware of this. Aren't you? Since you hate the first two calvinism and arminianism because they affirm total depravity, you fall on semi P or even worse full blown Pelagian. I'm not an idiot as you think. I spent years studying different theologies in Soteriology.
@@faithonfireministries
Justin peters is going to keep doing what he is doing, preaching the Besorah. He will continue to expose false teachers, and replace it with truth.
Jospeh, let me give you another category that ends in "ian." Christian. This is a person who follows Jesus Christ and God's Word. The other 4 categories are named after two men whose names never appear in the Bible, and the only people I ever hear throwing around those labels at people are Calvinists.
The names only represent the interpretation they believe about salvation in scriptures. They are all following Christ. They are also Christians. I would like to Add Jacob Arminius to Augustine, Calvin and Pelagius. There are no new revelations the past 500 yrs. What you believe about Total depravity will align with any of these men. The names are just a form of identification. If you disagree with Calvin or ARminius on total depravity then your interpretation is the same as Pelagius or the semi pelagians. I am not saying you are a pelagian but you are supporting or aligning with their theologies whether we like to identify with them or not.
Any teaching that goes outside the biblical truth is false and misleading.
Calvinism is the modern nicolaitans.
Love Lawson ! You only talk about Calvinist. It’s about the same as the heresy hunters you talk about. I’m not a Calvinist but I love alot of Calvinist preachers sermons.
All this sounds like the philosophy of men.
God bless y'all.
He was talking about Pentecostals, charismatics, and evangelicals.
The scripture I don’t get is where the holy spirt bares witness with our spirit that I’m a child of God think it is Roman’s 8 :4 but somehow I know it’s true
Calvinists are the wolves that Paul in Acts 20, warns his Ephesian brothers and sisters about. These wolves will come in attempts to devour the sheep. But the true church will prevail because the Lord of Lord and the King of Kings said it would and that's good enough for me. Calvinism is evil!
Never heard of Lawson, thanks Brian for the reference as I'll be watching a ton of his videos. 👍🏽
@Richard_Rz You'll be blessed...Btw zion4131's channel has everyone of his sermons and he does have his own website too.
Ezekiel 34 (KJV)
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² Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
³ Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
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²⁰ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle.
²¹ Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad;
²² Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
We have _both_ the knowledge of Good and evil, is our knowledge of GOOD depraved? If God called it "good" then who is anyone to call it depraved? Hang that on your wall of blasphemous beliefs.
Calvinist depend on terms and phrases that they make up from the Bible. I've been a Believer for over 50 years and if I have learned anything it is that nobody can put God in a neat little box, packaged and wrapped, categorized and filed, whatever you want to try to do, you can't do it. That is a fleshly/carnal attempt at understanding the spiritual. Did everyone catch that? A _fleshly_ attempt to understand GOD!!!! O, you foolish little sons and daughters of Adam. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, not doctrines and imaginations of men! Bless God.
If anyone thinks they can define the parameters of Grace then you haven't met God or if you have, you haven't learned very much. His Grace is EVERYTHING. GRACE FOR STRENGTH, WISDOM, COURAGE, MERCY, USE OF HIS NAME, AN ENTRANCE BEFORE HIS THRONE, FOR COMMUNION WITH THE FATHER, FOR GOOD WORKS, FOR PATIENCE, FOR ENDRANCE, AND THATS JUST THE SHORT LIST.
I learned that from walking with my Lord and hearing the Holy Spirit of God Who was freely given me, to teach all things to me. I would calvinists could taste how wonderful and blessed a walk with God and hearing Him is.
You are mistaken Brian!!! You are misreading your quote from Mathew 18: It states:.. "one of these little ones THAT BELIEVE IN ME, it will be better..." I trust you can see that Jesus is making a DESTINCTION...
You are referring to just one verse, but I read the whole passage and some verses that comes first from Jesus which is a blanket statement about children, not just about believing children, "3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me." Those are 3 statements about salvation and going to heaven. Then 4th comes the warning from Jesus to anyone in this life that offends one of these little ones that believes in Him.
That aside, are you suggesting that offending a little child that is not a believer in Christ (yet) is okay and not offensive or considered sinful to God? Or are you saying that we don't have to be like a little child to get into heaven unless that little child is a believer in Christ because that is not what Jesus said. If it was, then why did Jesus refer to the little child at all as an example? He could have just pulled aside a believing adult and said you must be like this believing adult to get into heaven. That would have been true too. After all, that is the Gospel of how we are saved, by believing in Christ by faith, so it would be correct if Jesus had done that. But he chose a little child and that has meaning and significance that encompasses the Gospel by which we believe and are forgiven of ours sins while at the same time Jesus is saying something about the innocence of children as God sees them.
Brian have you ever tried listening to Dr Carl R Turner? My dear sir he was in prison when he had an Angel of the lord experience and he has worked diligently to teach his flock the truth about false religion doctrine.
desireehelms8012 Where in scripture does it say we can have an angel of the Lord visit us? Paul mentions that we will entertain angels UNAWARES.....Remember that satan transforms himself into an angel of light.
Jesus told us that in the last days to not be deceived
I listen to Pastor Lawson all the time thanks to you Brian. I believe it's been a year since I started listening to Pastor Lawson. I have heard him preach on Calvinism
I am still concerned though if he is freemason from his hand jesters and I have seen on the web he is.
I know you told me once that he wasn't but the hand jester look suspicious. Thanks ❤
He is not a freemason. He has been a faithful preacher of God's Word for many decades. I truly believe that he believes and lives out what he preaches. He has countless hours of on-camera preaching for well over a decade now, and he is an animated preacher, moving his hands all over as he preaches. I'm sure if someone were to scrutinize enough hours with the intent of trying to discredit him they could capture a screenshot with any hand gesture they are looking for and a make some baseless accusation out of it. I really would not give such accusation any credibility but simply test what the man preaches against the Word of God. I find him to be a very solid preacher and he has been my favorite pastor to watch online for over a decade. However, that said, I can also say there have been a few times he taught something that I disagreed with. That is okay. We don't all have to agree 100% on everything to listen to a person and be edified and blessed by their messages. Anyway, that is my take on that issue. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministriesThanks Brian, I really love listening to Pastor Lawson.
I believe he walks the walk. God bless you!!
@stephaniebergmann80 Really? His hand jesters? Oh my, he just uses his hands in the way he uses his hands. That's the silliest thing I have heard. I have listened to him for over 8 years. His message and his fruit says all you need to know. He is all about the Lord Jesus Christ.....
What is so offensive about babies being born sinners or w sin nature? Ps 58:3 says the wicked are estranged from the womb. They go astray speaking lies as soon as they are born. It started from the womb. Rom 3 says there is no one righteous, no one who does good, for all have sinned. Rom 5:19 because of one man's disobedience many were made sinners. In adam we all died 1 cor 15:22. Regardless of whether you reject total depravity or not, we were all radically impacted by adam's sin I believe from birth. We were not born regenerated by the Spirit and that's the default. The term viper in diapher is strong, something I would not mention in preaching but if you do careful exegesis of Rom 3, 5 you can conclude that no one is born perfectly righteous. Stop getting emotional people and seriously exegete your bible and make your own conclusions.
Brian quotes from Matt 18 about children which simply means at their young age it is easier to teach them the gospel and train them before they become hardened reprobate adults. Train them when young in the way they should go so when they are old they will not depart from it. Actually that is a scripture verse in proverbs 22:6. Matt 18 is silent on the anthropology of babies. Do a comprehensive systematic study of scriptures vs eisegesis based in Matt 18 alone.
It's Matthew 18 by the way, not 19. And how can you say I eisegeted the text when I simply read Matthew 18 and the words of Jesus are not confusing at all and were shown right on the screen what I was reading? It is His WORD, not mine, so don't be a liar. It was the two Calvinist I featured who taught their own evil imagination and did not quote any Scripture doing it. You are siding with them and refuting the words of Jesus. I read and displayed them. Verse 10 says, "Take heed that ye *despise not one of these little ones* ; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." What part of that verse do you disagree with? I can assure you that it is "despising little ones" to claim that they are vipers in diapers, or to concoct some nonsense fantasy about them being evil giant baby killers.
Ezekiel 18: 20, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."
Psalm 127: 3 says, "Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward." Why would God reward people with an evil snake (vipers in diapers) for a child?
Luke 18: 16 says, "But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." This means we are to tell children Jesus loves them and welcomes them into His Kingdom! The opposite of that would be telling children they are evil snakes and wicked creations.
@@faithonfireministries I understand babies in diapers offends. But calvinists dont mean to insult and love their children. Whether you believe in Original sin or not, Total depravity or not, there is a direct link from the sin of Adam to all men. In Adam all DIED 1 Cor 15:22. Rom 5:19 because of one man's disobedience many were MADE sinners. Also Rom 5:12 sin and death spread to ALL men through one man. Rom 5:18 through one man's offense judgement came to ALL men resulting in condemnation. Are we born regenerated ready to enter the kingdom? Why did Jesus say you must be born again to enter His kingdom John 3:3? Ps 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb astray and speaking lies as soon as they are born.. So if this is true, are you saying some babies were born perfectly righteous, they were not astray, did not speak lies as soon as they were born? Where is that specific verse? I believe Ps 58:3 is universal. I believe babies are a blessing from the womb according to scriptures . Sure God admires the softness, humility of children compared to an adult reprobate because it is easier to teach and train them in righteousness, the gospel when young and when they get old they will not depart from it Prov 22:6. I believe this is what matt 18 is all about. We must come to Jesus in humility like the little children, soft and easy to teach.
So is your anthropology of babies based on Matt 18 alone? It is silent on this subject. There are more explicit, specific, weightier texts on anthropology of man like Rom 3, 5 that establishes the direct link between Adam and all men. Arminians and provisionists may have nuanced disagreements on these but they do not deny the effects of Adam's sin on all men.
Answer this. In this video are you justified in calling calvinists CULT because their view of original sin or depravity is stronger?
Truth is what we have is a nuanced disagreements on some doctrines which all Christians have. That does not qualify calvinism as a cult based on scripture. That is not damnable heresy or false gospel that you accuse calvinism of. Its obvious Brian that you have strong biases against calvinism.
There is so much wrong with what you wrote here. Perhaps I will do a video soon and go through your Bible references and also the others you didn't mention that provide the right context and I will explain what sin is, when and who the Bible says it is imputed to or not imputed to, because you have clearly disregarded those verses.
@@faithonfireministries Dr Micheal Heiser addressed most if not all the "concerns" brought up. Plenty of blogs, podcasts and videoed talks and lectures on a wide variety of Scripture.
Could have easily been about Leighton Flowers circle.
Makes God into the devil
I think when we were born were bent to do evil. That's why you don't have to teach a kid to be jealous or envious of his brothers or sisters or something or some other kid may or may not have. That's why I love we need to be born again now there may be innocence in their younger years but there will be a time when they become born again. Didn't Jesus have that the father long to gather Jerusalem as a hen with its little young ones underneath its wings but yet they refused we know it was God's will for them to accept God but they refused how did that happen when Abraham believed God it was counted into his righteousness the act of you believe in is not a work in God's eyes only in men's eyes
I like Pastor Lawson buy Ive seen believable videos online claiming he is a Freemason.
I would not give such accusations any credibility.
He is not a Freemason, that rumor was started by some devil who hates truth. They also called him a flat earther, he is neither
@dannywizz He is no way a mason.
@@birdlover-zu7ez You still have to deal with the fact that he sees it ok that Masons are part of his congregation.
1:59 Amen I live 40 miles from there in Sweetwater Tennessee
Here's some of what Jesus taught that was edited out of the Gospels due to political influences...
Jesus forbade his followers from eating dead animals, and the tables he overturned in the Temple belonged not just to the moneychangers but to those selling "kosher" meat from animals slaughtered inside the Temple walls, which was the far greater offense.
Excerpts from the Essene Gospel of Peace, Book I, some essential lost teachings every true Christian should hear.
And his disciples questioned Jesus: "Whither should we go, Master, for with you are the words of eternal life! Tell us, what are the sins which we must shun, that we may nevermore see disease?"
Jesus replied: "Be it so according to your faith," and he sat down among them, saying:
"It was said to them of old time, 'Honor thy Heavenly Father and thy Earthly Mother, and do their commandments, that thy days may be long upon the earth.' And next afterward was given this commandment, 'Thou shalt not kill,' for life is given to all by God, and that which God has given, let not man take away. For I tell you truly, from one Mother proceeds all that lives upon the earth.
“Therefore, he who kills, kills his brother. And from him will the Earthly Mother turn away, and will pluck from him her quickening breasts. And he will be shunned by her angels, and Satan will have his dwelling in his body. And the flesh of slain beasts in his body will become his own tomb. For I tell you truly, he who kills, kills himself, and whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death. For in his blood every drop of their blood turns to poison; in his breath their breath to stink; in his flesh their flesh to boils; in his bones their bones to chalk; in his bowels their bowels to decay; in his eyes their eyes to scales; in his ears their ears to waxy issue. And their death will become his death. For only in the service of your Heavenly Father are your debts of seven years forgiven in seven days. But Satan forgives you nothing and you must pay him for all. 'Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot; burning for burning, wound for wound; life for life, death for death.' For the wages of sin is death. Kill not, neither eat the flesh of your innocent prey, lest you become the slaves of Satan.
“For that is the path of sufferings, and it leads unto death. But do the will of God, that his angels may serve you on the way of life. Obey, therefore, the words of God: 'Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is breath of life, I give every green herb for meat. Also the milk of every thing that moveth and liveth upon earth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given unto them, so I give their milk unto you. But flesh, and the blood which quickens it, shall ye not eat. And, surely, your spurting blood will I require, your blood wherein is your soul; I will require all slain beasts, and the souls of all slain men." -The Essene Gospel of Peace, Book I
Actually, this preacher is not talking about Calvinism at all. He very well could be talking about the "free will" salvation folk. Really. What's the difference between a person who hears the Gospel and is saved versus the person who hears the Gospel and is isn't? Is the person who hears smarter? More spiritually discerning? Nicer? Less of a sinner?
No. Yet, you'll have all these reasons given as to why some "choose" salvation while others don't
The reasons we can be assured of our salvation when we choose to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ come from the Bible. Your reasons for how God arbitrarily chose some over others come from Gnosticism and pagan fatalism and they provide you zero assurance of your salvation.
@@faithonfireministries there's no denying scripture speaks of election, predestination: "those whom God called". Jesus affirms this is John 6. And I do appreciate your reply, yet you didn't address my comment. What is the difference between those who hear the Gospel and come to Lord versus those who don't, yet hear the same Gospel?
For the record, I personally am not a Calvinist, but as a Christian of more than 3 decades, I can only affirm what scripture teaches me in regard to election, thus agree with it.
I also have my personal testimony that also agrees with it. I didn't purposely choose to hear the Gospel as a young 20 year old woman. I merely stopped by a church to pick up a friend who needed a ride. I went into that church for the AC to escape the sweltering Louisiana summer heat. In that place, I heard the Gospel for the first time and was immediately filled by the Holy Spirit. My heart was instantly changed from a young liberal woman full of ambition who knew nothing about Jesus, to being filled with the Spirit of the Lord and my heart set aflame in love for Jesus. As I've reflected through the years on that day, I live with all certainty that the Lord Himself orchestrated the events of my day, if not my life, that would lead me into that church to hear the Gospel. That is the defining moment personally of being called by the Father into Christ.
@@faithonfireministries and for the record, I have absolute assurance of my salvation because of the inner witness of the Holy Spirit. When men seek to cause doubt, the Holy Spirit affirms what's already been done inside of me- and not because of me. I didn't "choose" God. As an unchurched child of parents who were agnostics, I had little to no understanding of who Jesus is. I simply heard the Gospel, and was filled by the Holy Spirit. it remains quite literally the most important and profound day of my entire life
I think that is wonderful that you got saved that day. I believe you, but your understanding of how and why you got saved seems to have be way off due to your acceptance of Calvinistic doctrines you were later taught after the fact. They are all wrong! That does not mean you lose your salvation, but it does mean you got confused by some very sneaky false teachers and therefore you will not pass on the good news of the Gospel correctly but instead talk of it as though it is some secret reserved VIP invitation only to some pre-chosen few, whomever that may be.
Revelation 22: 17 says "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." That is the wonderful good news that the Gospel in which the Spirit (Holy Spirit) and Bride (Believers on earth) say come because both are actively engaged in spreading the Gospel with an open invitation to all, to come and be saved eternally by Jesus Christ.
Election and Predestination are in the Bible but it is nothing like what you have been taught. Just go watch my last video from last week or two on Ephesians 1 and you will hear the truth of election and predestination in Scripture. God does not force salvation upon those who reject Christ by not believing in Him. The Holy Spirit convicts people of unbelief through the preaching of the true Gospel but some people quench the Spirit and do not believe and the Holy Spirit does not indwell them to force them into believing the Gospel anyway. Irresistible Grace in Calvinism is found no place in the Bible. As far back as Joshua, God speaking through Him said "choose you this day whom you will serve. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord." It is a choice!
God knows it is a choice and that is why He commands us to believe in Jesus in Scripture. God would not have to command anyone to do anything that He already predetermined them to do or not to do. 1 John 3 says, "23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."
You see there? It is crystal clear. The Spirit is not given to anyone who does not first obey that commandment and believe in Jesus. Belief (Faith) comes before regeneration by the Holy Spirit. Calvinism teaches that backwards. Also, if God predetermined that many would never believe in Jesus, then that would be God's will for their life and God would be commanding them to do the opposite of His will for them, contradicting and defying Himself. Nope, not a chance.
Faith comes by hearing the Gospel according to Romans 10: 17. That is why Calvinism is backwards and wrong. They have substituted a pagan Gnostic view of salvation and just wrapped it up in Bible terms and badly misinterpreted isolated prooftexts that when given the actual correct context just by reading the Bible a bit more, it says the very opposite of what Calvinism teaches.
Some real Christians get all confused when these big name preachers in suits and ties who look all dignified and trustworthy stand at a pulpit and absolutely pervert God's Word with zero shame or fear of God and say that salvation is reserved for the few, which they themselves are part of naturally. They say salvation is a result of God's arbitrary selection of some and rejection of all others, predetermined by God before time began. No. It does not work that way. It never has worked that way.
@@faithonfireministries sir, I'm not given to false teachers. The Holy Spirit is well able to teach those who belong to the Lord. I'm not wearing a lens of Calvinist presupposition. You clearly have an axe to grind in accusation for those who are Calvinists though. Accusing the brethren merely because you disagree on how people receive the Gospel doesn't speak well for you. Your assumptions - without offense intended toward you- reek of hypocrisy. You cannot point a finger and level a charge of "evil" at the very same time you're leveling judgement against those who belong to Christ.
With regard to what you think of my determination of my own salvation, respectfully sir, you don't know me and certainly do not carry the weight of my Lord in correcting me, which He is quite willing and able to do.
You should examine your motives that prompt you to speak this way about others who belong to the same Lord you claim as Savior.
Have a good weekend
Go back to the book of acts
That was God's plan and church
They received the holy
Acts 2.38 was God's plan
Do you preach this
Are you baptized in the name of Jesus
Were you filled with holy ghost
Do you believe in Jesus
The lord God
If you answer no
Then you are a cult and truth is not in you
I see it like politics. Democrat idealist in my youth. But when I became a man I began to think like a man. Scripture clearly says that we are Born with sin. Not as si nful as we could be perhaps, but every sin is contained in our wicked hearts. Salvation is a gift of God. I think anyone would acknowledge that. God doesn't work in a person.
If you can acknowledge that then you have to take pride in figuring it out on your own and then faith becomes a work. Sad to see all the name calling
Calvinism doesn't even qualify as a cult. The cult accusation is an ad hominem, a logical fallacy. Please pray for the Palestinian people. They are image bearers of God as well. 🙏😢
They're freaking demigods
Yes the new administration
Sick Calvinists. Didn't know they see children like that. Wicked!
Oh, it doesn't stop at just the wrong view of Children. The whole belief system of Calvinism is false, sneaky, subtle and leads many astray into cult like social club religious elitism.
@@faithonfireministries That I agree. I preach against calvinism too. But I didnt know they view children like that but it all makes sense because of their fatalistic view on salvation. Keep exposing them.
On the Children; the missing quality between the videos and the scripture in Matt 18 is the Posture of the child…. The human heart is deceitful above all things; who can know it? -Notice in that scripture, it doesn’t Qualify the Age of the heart in question, but instead is talking about the Posture of that heart…. People are Evil, of all ages, until the Holy Spirit moves them, or they choose something different.
Hey brother😊 would you mind doing me a favor...? That's a channel I watch and they're actually talking about false teachers and they have Justin Peters on their periodically saying some things about false teachers and what have you, anyway I was so confused as to why they're sitting there putting a false teacher on to describe false teachers... Anyway someone left a comment on my comment saying that Justin Peters is not a calvinist and so I went and looked it up and everywhere I'm looking it's saying he is not a calvinist and he is dating that he is not a calvinist.. I thought he was an admitted calvinist? Anyway I'm trying to find something that I could copy and paste to give to this person that left me a comment prove that he was a calvinist but I can't find it anywhere... Thank you in advance brother, I hope you're having a blessed day🌷 by the way if this has a bunch of errors and it just understand I just woke up lol
He prefers the term Reformed over Calvinist. It means the same thing. He goes to a Reformed Baptist church and has affirmed the 5 points of Calvinism (Doctrines of Grace) when he is preaching at churches and conferences that he is invited to teach at on topics such as God's Sovereignty or what makes a doctrinally sound church. First clue by the way are that those are almost always Calvinist churches with rare exception that invite him to speak.
However, when he does his "Clouds Without Water" series at churches, he usually does not go into the Calvinism doctrines but sticks with Cessationism (which is a doctrine invented by Calvinists by the way). That series he does is basically one big presentation against Charismatics with lots of video clips of outrageous moments or silly stuff some of the big name celebrity types have said or done that Justin tries to paint Charismatics as a whole of being like.
Another clue is that Justin is one of the most adamant and staunch supports of John MacArthur who is well known to be one of the top leading voices promoting 5 point Calvinism.
But he basically spells out his believing the doctrines of Calvinism on his website FAQ section. justinpeters.org/faqs/
One of his frequently asked questions is "Are you a Calvinist? Hmmm. I can only wonder why that is frequently asked. LOL.
He affirms Calvinism in the FAQ by how he answers the question while trying to distance himself from being called a Calvinist because of two main reasons. 1. He says most people don't understand Calvinism. 2. He says he is not a disciple of John Calvin, therefore not a Calvinist.
However, he does make these statements of belief in the answer I will copy and paste what he wrote here:
"But God, being rich in mercy (Ephesians 2:4-8), has chosen to save some. He is stretching out His arms and plucking some from their Hell-bound race, drawing them to Himself and saving them."
"God chose His elect by sovereign decree in eternity past"
"The Bible teaches both God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility"
Those points of his belief is the Calvinist unconditional election doctrine and the last quote is affirming his belief in the Calvinist view known as "compatibilism" which is God did not intend nor provide a way of salvation for most sinners, and they have no ability to believe the Gospel and be saved, but because they are sinners they are still responsible for their sins and God is just to send them to hell. It's a nonsense argument that defies true justice of a Holy and righteous God who said in His Word that he hates unequal scales. Why would that same God have unequal scales of justice when it comes to the most important thing in the world with an eternal consequence?
For an example, in this personal testimony Justin did on the Polite Leader channel ruclips.net/video/bR6zq2qZsZY/видео.html&t he claims to have gone to seminary and then started in ministry preaching while not being saved but that he did finally get saved in 2011. At the 6 minute mark he clearly states that he once was against the "doctrines of grace" but that melted away which was one of the big changes that came over him that year in 2011. However, I think it simply means he got indoctrinated into Calvinism in 2011.
In any event, unlike most Christians, some Calvinists do tend to operate as stealth Calvinists. It is a tactic many of them use to avoid the labels or to avoid being transparent about their true beliefs in Calvinism because they know that will drive away most of the audience. They want to gain the trust first on other matters so when they slip in a hint here or there towards Calvinism it starts to bring the listener along with them more and more as a form of subtle indoctrination. So, they use coded terms that those trained in reformed theology and in those circles clearly understand but for most Christians it just sounds Biblical and the hidden meaning goes right over their head. For example, "sovereign saving grace" is code for the U in TULIP, unconditional election unto salvation. Never saying God or Jesus loves you or affirming that when speaking to an audience is another indirect clue. There are many other hints that reveal a stealth Calvinist in action.