@@freddsims648 Is this the final battle scene from this movie? I have indeed heard of Crimmson Tide but I've unfortunately never watched it before. What is the rating of this movie, and what mature things can I expect from it if I choose to watch?
The part at the end when the Chief shouts "YOU GOT 'IM, SIR!" as the crew erupts in cheers amid the triumphant swell of Hans Zimmer's score is simply one of the greatest moments in cinematic history.
@@Zodroo_Tint What else could he say? The music montage as they begin celebrating is pretty “epic” . Not the greatest in cinematic history but a nice climax for sure
Anyway, i love the way Tony Scott mounted and filmed each action sequence of this movie with such intensity, speed and high kinetics and kept the suspense heavy. The critics might dismiss him as much as they would like. But for me no other directors that followed him in hollywood couldn't quite match this intensity. Not all of this movies are masterpiece but Crimson Tide is a textbook of war action thriller movie who shows us how to develop the characters,make them convincing, set the convincing background for conflict between characters and build immense suspense and drama based on it.
Would've been fire, but I think the show was a little too corny to handle his presence. Benjamin Sisko was as close as we got to a badass black Star Trek captain.
@@tomtrinchera8405 it would been hilarious if in their later confrontation Hunter would just brag to Ramsey "oh sorry.. please raise your hand captains who sank an enemy sub....oh its just me" , "Sorry captain i cant hear you over the sound of my sank Akula"
@Johnston Steiner yeah.. tought to be honest back then the MIGs were armed with guns only and had to get close to the B52 and the later was armed with a radar guided tail gun
I don’t think most people know fuck all about submarines tanks maybe planes if your a huge geek but submarines! They are just big dildos ! But Torpedo will sink any submarine so you could be on an underwater jet ski and still sink a sub if you can fire a torpedo so any sub can sink any other sub unless your playing some PC computer game where the most powerful subs can take more hits than old ones ! But to be honest a sub is such an advanced piece of engineering but is so delicate that if it’s hull is breached by anything your in trouble I mean it’s like fighting in space one little hole and it’s all over assholes ! Soon in the Sub world who ever shoots first will probably win
Agreed! I worked a little in theater so I know it probably took several takes for him to get the right amount of emotion into those lines. Props to him!
@@raj8032 His great-grandson, who looks like him, became a Navy SEAL and died during a mission trying to take back Alcatraz from a rouge Marine General and his mercenary group (and traitorous) of Marines.
The storyline of this movie was awesome, to begin with. Adding Denzel as a main character made the movie epic by a factor of 100 times. Then you add the venerable Gene Hackman? There ain't enough superlatives to go around.
Conn: sonar Radio cadence. You address who you're intending to speak to and who you are. "Conn" command station "sonar" this is sonar. Clipped languange to clean up clutter and get to the point. Which makes the "holy shit!" While relatable, wholly unrealistic. This message would be 100% No clutter. That is pants shitting distance.
He took out a Russian Akula on his first war patrol and had all the moves on the Russian Submarine and nailed them in the end. That just takes balls made of brass. That is one hardcore Sea Wolf to be respected there.
@@SphincterOfDoom Correct it wasnt.. in his interview when he first meets captain Ramsey they say he did several tours in attack boats as XO.. he was probably on his way to CO (as by the end of the movie they say he will be getting a command next)
Especially considering he's got an SSBN, not an attack sub. Ballistic subs are supposed to AVOID combat, and hide, and that's what they're designed for. Sinking an enemy attack sub with one takes real skill.
I watched this movie for years and just caught what the sonar operator said. "Just shoot the damn thing. What is the 1000 yards for? Sonar operator replied " That's because it takes 1000 yards to arm. Jesus who did you fuck to get on this boat!" I just died laughing. Lmaooooooooooooooo
the line is hilarious but it was really to tell us audience why he needed the range.. sounds way out of place in the crew of a Boomer.. maybe an electrician or the folks who run the reactor or power plant might ask but a sonar guy who among many things has to get the ranges for the officers to plot firing solution would definity know even by repeated drills
and that torpedo didn't even hit the hull, it detonated underneath the akula and then BOOM. and if the unlucky crew on that sub were probably dead before they even knew what happened
@Thedoom turtle yep. for surface vessels they do. and detonating it 10-20 feet away from the hull turns water into a giant hammer which helps the blast energy do more damage
@@tomtrinchera8405 Das Boot didn't really have much sub action (and you didn't get to see most of what did happen), it was more about the crew and the horror of their situation.
2:39 the torpedo detonated just below and aft of the Akula stern is accurate. Because underwater a torpedo or depth charge does have to explode right as it hits the hull to destroy a ship or sub. Underwater the force from the blast has 5x the force
@@jermed2001 Well he was sometimes but not always the commander of the USS Defiant a few times whenever Sisko is unable to command the Defiant such as tthe scene here showing Worf in temporarily command of the Defiant to battle the upgrade Excelsior class starship, the USS Lakota in the Deep Space Nine episode "Paradise Lost" [as shown here]: ruclips.net/video/dBmmlHR1Bwg/видео.html
I was never in the Navy, but as an armchair critic I always felt that the line at 1:48 - _"Snap-shot, Two and Four! Tubes fired electrically, sir."_ - was a deliberately-gentle reminder/notice to Commander Hunter [and the audience] that he may not be fully aware of the capabilities of how the torpedoes on an Ohio-class worked. Considering this was his first tour aboard the _Alabama,_ he may not have been aboard another Ohio before, and was called-in to replaced the previous X.O. _before_ he was fully trained and qualified to do so.
Difference is, the Russian Black Sea fleet wouldn’t be particularly effective as they’d be essentially stuck in the Black Sea. The Northern Fleet on the other hand would be a serious threat
Plus, also, it's been shown that Russia's military seems to be incompetent AF. So far every Russian General seems to keep getting dismissed and replaced alevery few months. I guess some movies about Russians are true lol
That Alabama would be so dead if this scenario somehow happened irl. They barely accelerated away from their own countermeasues, they didn't change depth at all to at least try to get away from the torps search cones, if this happened, the torps would go through the cm's and reaquire them almost immediately, the akula would arm the torps early and f' off of there most likely not even looking back. In my mind, if such a close attack somehow happened without the akula being heard much earlier, the only things alabama could do is full flank, full dive both planes and ballast, release countermeasures shallow and spiral down under the torps cones simultaneusly launching a barrage ( also risky your own torps could find you later, especially if any wires would break) of torps, pushing the akula to be evasive. Also everything would depend on the internal logic modes and versions of launched weapons and cm's. They might even burn through cm's, interrogate them and disregard them or just go into different search modes etc.
Ah yes never forgot this scene and I think at the end of this movie COMSUBPAC forced everyone to keep absolutely silent of everything including the sinking of that Akula.
IKR, movie torpedoes behaving like real life antiair missiles turning harmless once they overshoot while movie SAMs would come back three times for the hero aircraft with build in countermeasure homing
If they manually armed the torpedoes, it meant they retained the command wire, which means they could also manually detonate those torpedoes if they started coming back towards ownship.
@@ronnelmonroe8599 Yes. Modern (Cold War Era ones too.) Torpedoes are homing torpedoes. They'll hone in on anything their onboard sonar picks up if the command wire from the mother ship has been cut. If they miss the target they tend to start doing circles to try and find it again. That means if you're close enough and making more noise than the enemy, its going to find you and go after you instead. Very spooky.
And somehow in 2022 this movie is dangerously relevant. The difference is the US and surrounding world wants war more then ever, without taking a moment of pause to ask what it would cost. When war itself is the enemy.
Really? I guess I'm the only worthless coward here, this movie(especially the scene with the one crew that drowned) scared me so much that I'd never even think about setting a foot in a combat submarine. The Hunt for Red October on the other hand....
nah, they probably COULD use countermeasures, but the torpedoes didnt arm until they were literally right on top of the target, in all likelihood, the enemy sub commander detected that the torpedoes were not tracking his vessel, which would mean that they would likely miss their targets and thus use of countermeasures was unnecessary and could even have potentially wasted resources that would be needed later. enemy Skipper made a call, and it was the wrong call
@@VersusARCH To be fair, it was likely a reactionary "FIRE NOW" once the Alabama suddenly appeared right next to them. Alabama subsequently taking the time to move far enough away to reach arming distance. And THEN, the Akula got off another shot during the confusion, Alabama not seeing it until it was too close to get away, even with countermeasures. Now... Why Captain Ramses did not fire back during the first attack is potentially questionable. They were WAY outside safety range, and already at battle stations, having already manned Battle Stations Torpedo earlier on. So the torpedoes were hot and ready in the tubes, even while they switched to Battle Stations Missile.
Love how everyone gives the new guy shit for not knowing about the 1000 yards to arm. Yet somehow the CAPTAIN of the Akula didn’t know this either 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣💀
Don't tell me the Akula is behind? If I understood this scene correctly, this would never have happened in real life. Those guys'd not even hear a peap, let alone the torpedos, given the Akula is in the baffles. Wow... I mean, that doesn't exactly take that much more research to figure out, especially when you've got millions of dollars at your disposal. And like bro, what is this radar thing? Radar underwater? What a joke. Like I said, they had millions of dollars at their disposal for research, and they couldn't get thee simple things right.
Interesting. I have seen photographs of significantly damaged bows of submarines. There is usually a large spherical object that I believe is the sonar array. Now I am thinking that you might have a baseline passive or active sweep going from port to starboard and back again, with added input from sensor elements above and below that sweep. That would give a rough elevation and angular position fix. Add in the range somehow. That data set might be displayed on a CRT or LED monitor.
@@christopherlee7334 , The commercial charting for deep ocean is not considered to be very accurate or precise. This is in light of numerous problems with the precision and accuracy of commercial coastal charts. The root cause of that? Numerous nations, including the USA, have failed to finance continuously updated ocean cartography the way it was during the height of the Cold War when undersea submarine warfare was a considered a high priority. Everyone today who goes out to explore or navigate the deep ocean knows they had better be ready to do their own form of sonar navigation and cartography.
Sorry, but exchange the Akula for the Dallas in this scene to see what would have happened in Red October if the Dallas actually tried what they did in that movie. You don't outrun a proximity torpedo in a sub by letting it get that close. Crimson Tide was much better at showing what happens if you make a mistake as a sub commander.
The standard is 1000yrd as a safety for the ship, you do not need to wait for the boat to be at 1000yrds because they are wire guided??? Plus you can remove the safety, but yes.... It's a movie.
Despite this movie being fantastically full of ****, this is about the most realistic portrayal in a movie I've seen how it is in the sonar shack when you're tracking something.
I just love the naming "Akula Class" That sounds like the most lethal shi$ ever. If I had a leg eating pit bull. That would be it's name. Male or female "Akula, attack!!!" It's freakin' OVER MAAANNN!!!!!...lmfao
Akula literally means "Shark", so it's not a bad choice. But the Akula in the movie isn't actually a Russian "Akula". That's just what the West called 'em.
@@roberthayes2593 The real "Akula" is much, much scarier. Fortunately, there's only one of those now. And it's tied to a pier on the Kola Penisula, providing power for a town. Funny how the world changed, eh?
@@NorthForkFisherman Are you Canadian? Lol. Thankfully it's being put to good use and helping the world. But I feel like Liz Lemon when I say this..."Thanks Nerds" lmao. God bless man. PEACE
An old lady I know has trained her little dog to do doo on one of those jumbo sized puppy pee pads. Her goal is to eventually switch to a big version of a cat like litter box. I bet that dog the captain has is trained for a litter box.
Could someone who's a navy person please tell me something when he snapshots the missle do those missles actually make those whistle sounds or what ever it is in the water. I would think having to rely on sonar down there there's an opportunity for the missles to be noise free? I'm not a navy guy I know that those type of sounds are common with very old bombs from world War ii so I'm just curious if the tec is fiction or what the deal really is down there. BTW if your in the navy for bless you I mean that with all my heart I would gladly fly but I couldn't do submarine work and very in fresh waters on a sub irs a claustrophobics nightmare
The propellers on the torpedos travel at very high revolutions so in the water it's very high frequency. They're definitely loud but they don't drown out others.
I think that it's a safety issue. One wants to make sure that a package of high explosives leaving the submarine (i.e., the torpedo) is not armed until it is at a safe distance from the submarine. There have been accidents in which submarines have been sunk by their own torpedoes.
every sailor should know their ship front to back even the weapons The Lead Sonar Tech was on the ball when he replied back to the other tech it takes a 1k yards for the weapons to arm then said how did you get on this ship. Begs the question how did that man get on the sub and just say just fire the torp when he should of known the 1k yard rule. according to the movie
That "Was a Mk-45 torpedo" USS Alabama, NUKE- 5-kiloton, & was armed by, "WIRE" , It pay's out, from drum. in Alabama's launch tube. Signal, is sent by, Low freq. thru water, & received by that trailing, copper rewind, wire.
So im gonna be that guy (Hollywood vs. reality) 1.) That sonar business...subs dont have radar displays like that which show subs and torpedoes. That ain't real. Yes they have displays, but nothing that looks that cool or that whole missile lock sound stuff. 2.) That 1000 yards to arm business is hollywood. There are presets for when torpedoes will arm, but they can be adjusted, or armed on command while running. Heck, they could even be armed immediately after launch, but it wouldn't be that safe. 3.) The snapshot firing of the torpedoes and torpedo evasion maneuvers were actually fairly realistic. The best movie for "modern" submarine warfare is the end sequence of hunt for red october. That's all pretty darn legitimate.
I just noticed this for the first time but what a huge screw up they fired the torpedo's and there was no propeller and they were in front of the Akula. We should have seen the propeller because they would have had to fire the rear torpedo's
SSBN's need to travel stealthily.. it's not the mission of the SSN's to escort the SSBN's.. the attack submarines job is to hunt the opposing navies ballistic missile submarines or if they're escorting carriers, to provide cover for the battlegroup from enemy attack subs..
An Akula has roughly 25-30% less displacement than an Ohio class submarine. Unless the captain of the Akula is grossly incompetent which might very well be the case with a coup. But the Akula a sub without any nukes shouldn't be losing to an Ohio class all by itself without any LA class escorts. The Red October sub battles are way more realistic IMHO.
@@samuelweir5985 I think he’s talking about maneuverability, Ohio class is a dedicated ballistic missile sub with attack capabilities while the Akula class is a more agile dedicated attack sub.
@@teasea546 You're probably right. But submarine combat isn't like a fighter aircraft dogfight where maneuverability ranks high in importance. I would think that the importance of submarine maneuverability ranks pretty low in submarine combat compared to the sensitivities of the respective sonar systems and the quietness of the respective subs as well as other factors.
@@samuelweir5985 That's true. Though it could be argued that without the need to fit in ballistic-missile-capable vertical launch tubes, attack subs have less design constraints and are likely superior in those aspects as well, especially for combat situations. That being said, I'm no expert. @Russian Vodka could elaborate on his reasonings since he brought this up.
Actually I'd take the Alabama. In the real world sub vs sub combat isn't about maneuverability nor is it an underwater dog fight. Much more important are your sonar and noise signature. Top speed is tactically significant.
I love that line:
"Because it takes 1000 yards to arm the torpedo's. Jesus, who'd you fuck to get on this ship?"
Quentin Tarantino was brought on this film to spice up the dialogue. That was part of it. In another scene a sailor references Marvel super heroes.
I like every word until the last - sailors call submarines 'boats' as a tradition.
@@freddsims648 Is this the final battle scene from this movie? I have indeed heard of Crimmson Tide but I've unfortunately never watched it before. What is the rating of this movie, and what mature things can I expect from it if I choose to watch?
@@freddsims648 Thank you.
Except it makes zero sense that anyone on that sub would not know that it takes 1000 yards for torpedoes to arm.
"YOU GOT HIM SIR!" and Hans Zimmer's soundtrack kicks in, and everyone cheering. Outstanding...
My favorite moment in the entire movie.
They really shouldn’t have cheered 😅
It sounds like Basil Poledouris' score from Hunt For Red October.
Captain Tupolev of the Konovalov would have just set the arming distance on his torpedoes to zero and fired.
“You arrogant ass. You killed us!”
@@joshuasantana685 You beat me to it!
He won't make the shame mishtake twiche...
Wrong movie..
@@admiralrachmaninov9036 It was a comparison.
The part at the end when the Chief shouts "YOU GOT 'IM, SIR!" as the crew erupts in cheers amid the triumphant swell of Hans Zimmer's score is simply one of the greatest moments in cinematic history.
Please keep it real! It is equivalent of a "we are in" hacker line.
@@Zodroo_Tint What else could he say? The music montage as they begin celebrating is pretty “epic” . Not the greatest in cinematic history but a nice climax for sure
It's awesome, but there's one scene of the classic 90's that tops that far above in my opinion. The Rock, "Green light to SEAL incursion".
Even the dog had to bark!!! Just Feeding off that pure energy and great music score! At that moment..😂
This movie stinks
The green lighting from the console is so satisfying. I noticed this entire movie had amazing lighting
I love how deliberate it is, the colours help the audience locate which team/ part of the sub they’re watching.
Anyway, i love the way Tony Scott mounted and filmed each action sequence of this movie with such intensity, speed and high kinetics and kept the suspense heavy. The critics might dismiss him as much as they would like. But for me no other directors that followed him in hollywood couldn't quite match this intensity. Not all of this movies are masterpiece but Crimson Tide is a textbook of war action thriller movie who shows us how to develop the characters,make them convincing, set the convincing background for conflict between characters and build immense suspense and drama based on it.
Gene Hackman, now retired, was one of the best actors in Hollywood to play any character on the ecran - either a good guy or a callous villain.
bruh remember when he was lex luthor in the superman movies?
Hoosiers is one of my favorite movies.
Especially ones that go war wacky.
He can go anywhere, do anything.
The best you can ask for :)
@@spartan3244
yeah, he could be both comic relief and a terrifying evil genius.
Best submarine movies ever: Red October, Crimson Tide, Das Boot. Nobody makes movies like these anymore.
All great movies.
You forgot Titanic
@@mcg5888Titanic wasn’t a submarine movie if you don’t count the opening and ending scenes
This never would’ve happened because he is so overqualified, but Denzel would’ve been the greatest Star Trek captain of all time.
Would've been fire, but I think the show was a little too corny to handle his presence. Benjamin Sisko was as close as we got to a badass black Star Trek captain.
Make It So
So true
You never know..lol
No because we already had Sisko
The practical effects in this movie were incredible. CGI nowadays could still not come close to this.
God that captain must be fuming. Bagging an akula would give your bragging rights forever, especially if you're an SSBN skip.
Almost felt sorry for him, missing all the action in the conn. Pretty cool that Hunter got his first kill tho!
@@tomtrinchera8405 it would been hilarious if in their later confrontation Hunter would just brag to Ramsey "oh sorry.. please raise your hand captains who sank an enemy sub....oh its just me" , "Sorry captain i cant hear you over the sound of my sank Akula"
Bagging an Akula in an Ohio class is like shooting down a fighter jet with a bomber.
@Johnston Steiner yeah.. tought to be honest back then the MIGs were armed with guns only and had to get close to the B52 and the later was armed with a radar guided tail gun
I don’t think most people know fuck all about submarines tanks maybe planes if your a huge geek but submarines! They are just big dildos ! But Torpedo will sink any submarine so you could be on an underwater jet ski and still sink a sub if you can fire a torpedo so any sub can sink any other sub unless your playing some PC computer game where the most powerful subs can take more hits than old ones ! But to be honest a sub is such an advanced piece of engineering but is so delicate that if it’s hull is breached by anything your in trouble I mean it’s like fighting in space one little hole and it’s all over assholes ! Soon in the Sub world who ever shoots first will probably win
“You got em sir!!” cue Hans Zimmer
Chills every time.
That guy who's yelling 048 and 050: fantastic performance. Gives this scene so much extra tension 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Agreed! I worked a little in theater so I know it probably took several takes for him to get the right amount of emotion into those lines. Props to him!
He is Jack's friend from Titanic 😀
@@raj8032 His great-grandson, who looks like him, became a Navy SEAL and died during a mission trying to take back Alcatraz from a rouge Marine General and his mercenary group (and traitorous) of Marines.
Its an Italian kid from Brooklyn.
@@danski6694 no from boston
The storyline of this movie was awesome, to begin with. Adding Denzel as a main character made the movie epic by a factor of 100 times. Then you add the venerable Gene Hackman? There ain't enough superlatives to go around.
Facts 💯
He got on the ship so the audience would get the explanation they needed lol
The industry term is "audience proxy"
_The Hunt For Red October_ had that same exposition, but handled it markedly better.
"Caught on Sonar! Holy SHIT, Sir! He's right on top of us! He's turning towards!"
"Range?"
"Six-Hundred Yards!"
Conn: sonar
Radio cadence. You address who you're intending to speak to and who you are.
"Conn" command station "sonar" this is sonar.
Clipped languange to clean up clutter and get to the point.
Which makes the "holy shit!" While relatable, wholly unrealistic. This message would be 100% No clutter. That is pants shitting distance.
He took out a Russian Akula on his first war patrol and had all the moves on the Russian Submarine and nailed them in the end. That just takes balls made of brass. That is one hardcore Sea Wolf to be respected there.
To be fair, the captain of the Akula was a moron.
Wait it wasn't his first patrol.
@@SphincterOfDoom Correct it wasnt.. in his interview when he first meets captain Ramsey they say he did several tours in attack boats as XO.. he was probably on his way to CO (as by the end of the movie they say he will be getting a command next)
There's no way an Ohio out turns torpedos or gets the trophy on an Akula. They are a lot quieter but the size and maneuver like a train.
Especially considering he's got an SSBN, not an attack sub. Ballistic subs are supposed to AVOID combat, and hide, and that's what they're designed for. Sinking an enemy attack sub with one takes real skill.
This is by far one of my favorite scenes !
In the theatre it was really cool -- THX surround sound in 1995 when it was released.
Because we all wish we could ram that akula like we could ram a cheeky destroyer going into two brothers
This movie is absolute masterpiece
I watched this movie for years and just caught what the sonar operator said. "Just shoot the damn thing. What is the 1000 yards for? Sonar operator replied " That's because it takes 1000 yards to arm. Jesus who did you fuck to get on this boat!" I just died laughing. Lmaooooooooooooooo
Gotta love Rivetti! And love when he rescues the others to stop Capt. Ramsey from launching
the line is hilarious but it was really to tell us audience why he needed the range.. sounds way out of place in the crew of a Boomer.. maybe an electrician or the folks who run the reactor or power plant might ask but a sonar guy who among many things has to get the ranges for the officers to plot firing solution would definity know even by repeated drills
He must've had a go with an Admirals daughter 😆
@@geoffwilliams4478 lol 😂 I like what you did right there!
2:38 wow best implosion on film.
Andy Summers They just play it in reverse after the initial explosion but it does look really good.
Heliosphan underwater explosions always look like that.
and that torpedo didn't even hit the hull, it detonated underneath the akula and then BOOM. and if the unlucky crew on that sub were probably dead before they even knew what happened
Hunter Killer did some good underwater explosions as well.
@Thedoom turtle yep. for surface vessels they do. and detonating it 10-20 feet away from the hull turns water into a giant hammer which helps the blast energy do more damage
Best sub combat since Red October.
very indeed true
Agreed. Funny i always find Submarine battles more intensive & interesting.
Naw, since DAS BOOT!
On the novel The Hunt for Red October, the Red October defeats the Acula by ramming it.
@@tomtrinchera8405 Das Boot didn't really have much sub action (and you didn't get to see most of what did happen), it was more about the crew and the horror of their situation.
I love the noob colleague, probably the best way to get some needed exposition to the audience who knows as little about submarine lingo as he does.
The industry term is the audience proxy.
The truth is there’s always one is the a “noob”
2:39 the torpedo detonated just below and aft of the Akula stern is accurate. Because underwater a torpedo or depth charge does have to explode right as it hits the hull to destroy a ship or sub. Underwater the force from the blast has 5x the force
Brings back some good memories from my days aboard a US submarine..the good ole days!
How realistic is this compared to the real thing ?
Klingon Captain: "WE DIE IN GLORIOUS BATTLE!!!"
Wasn't Worf a captain at some point? But he ended up turning it down to return to Starfleet. Anyways sounds like something he would say.
@@jermed2001 Well he was sometimes but not always the commander of the USS Defiant a few times whenever Sisko is unable to command the Defiant such as tthe scene here showing Worf in temporarily command of the Defiant to battle the upgrade Excelsior class starship, the USS Lakota in the Deep Space Nine episode "Paradise Lost" [as shown here]: ruclips.net/video/dBmmlHR1Bwg/видео.html
To Be, or Not, To Be
@@theimperfektman Klingon General Chang: "CRY HAVOC! And let slip the dogs of War!"
why did i think it was me
Bruh same
I love how some of the crew is doubting his ability until he calls that snap shot command.
Combat tactics.
I was never in the Navy, but as an armchair critic I always felt that the line at 1:48 - _"Snap-shot, Two and Four! Tubes fired electrically, sir."_ - was a deliberately-gentle reminder/notice to Commander Hunter [and the audience] that he may not be fully aware of the capabilities of how the torpedoes on an Ohio-class worked. Considering this was his first tour aboard the _Alabama,_ he may not have been aboard another Ohio before, and was called-in to replaced the previous X.O. _before_ he was fully trained and qualified to do so.
0:53 Damnit, didn’t you ever watch The Hunt for Red October?!?!
This is one of Hans Zimmer's lesser-known soundtracks. I can't find this music on RUclips.
Crimson Tide soundtrack. It's there.
Yes, it's there! I have it on my playlist!
Well the soundtrack was released after the film’s release. Later bootlegs containing the recording sessions were released
The special effects used still hold up well!
It is eerie that now we are very close to seeing the actual danger of WW3 in the current situation just like this movie predicted.
Difference is, the Russian Black Sea fleet wouldn’t be particularly effective as they’d be essentially stuck in the Black Sea. The Northern Fleet on the other hand would be a serious threat
Plus, also, it's been shown that Russia's military seems to be incompetent AF. So far every Russian General seems to keep getting dismissed and replaced alevery few months.
I guess some movies about Russians are true lol
That Alabama would be so dead if this scenario somehow happened irl. They barely accelerated away from their own countermeasues, they didn't change depth at all to at least try to get away from the torps search cones, if this happened, the torps would go through the cm's and reaquire them almost immediately, the akula would arm the torps early and f' off of there most likely not even looking back. In my mind, if such a close attack somehow happened without the akula being heard much earlier, the only things alabama could do is full flank, full dive both planes and ballast, release countermeasures shallow and spiral down under the torps cones simultaneusly launching a barrage ( also risky your own torps could find you later, especially if any wires would break) of torps, pushing the akula to be evasive. Also everything would depend on the internal logic modes and versions of launched weapons and cm's. They might even burn through cm's, interrogate them and disregard them or just go into different search modes etc.
Not to mention an Ohio is a black hole of noise. No way a busted ass 5 or 10 year old akula could creep on one.
Ah yes never forgot this scene and I think at the end of this movie COMSUBPAC forced everyone to keep absolutely silent of everything including the sinking of that Akula.
The moment you know that such torpedos would come back if they miss and start searching on their own...
IKR, movie torpedoes behaving like real life antiair missiles turning harmless once they overshoot while movie SAMs would come back three times for the hero aircraft with build in countermeasure homing
wait torpedos can circle back
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ronnel monroe it is a reference to the Khrushchev class sub from The Hunt for Red October
If they manually armed the torpedoes, it meant they retained the command wire, which means they could also manually detonate those torpedoes if they started coming back towards ownship.
@@ronnelmonroe8599 Yes. Modern (Cold War Era ones too.) Torpedoes are homing torpedoes. They'll hone in on anything their onboard sonar picks up if the command wire from the mother ship has been cut. If they miss the target they tend to start doing circles to try and find it again. That means if you're close enough and making more noise than the enemy, its going to find you and go after you instead. Very spooky.
**cold waters be like:**
@*televisio86 They're ASW ships im a time of war, they're always going to be active
I am now. Playing the Dot Mod in Cold Waters, fighting the Akula in an Ohio-class SSBN, exactly the same scenario like Crimson Tide!
And somehow in 2022 this movie is dangerously relevant. The difference is the US and surrounding world wants war more then ever, without taking a moment of pause to ask what it would cost. When war itself is the enemy.
Hi, Dmitry! 😄
Last time I checked it was Putin egging everyone on, invading his neighbors.
Seeing those countermeasures and internal set up really made you realize how old those submarines are.
do submarines use countermeasures like those?
@@derekwall200 Older ones, the new ones are a huge umbrella shape.
@@saturnv2419 oh i see
@@saturnv2419 for instance - like in hunter killer correct?
@@OBI-KONOBI-ISRAEL Yes, the countermeasures in that movie is correct.
“Conn, sonar, HOLY FUCK!”
"Sonar, conn, HOLY FUCK aye!
Can you imagine the terror of dying in the bottom of the ocean!and worse at depth crush no one will never find them and be buried far below!
Who the hell didn’t want to be a submarine commander after this scene?
I wanted to be one.
the russians
Really? I guess I'm the only worthless coward here, this movie(especially the scene with the one crew that drowned) scared me so much that I'd never even think about setting a foot in a combat submarine.
The Hunt for Red October on the other hand....
Give me a submarine movie anyday.
Gotta love that nod they gave to USS Alabama's crew in the Batman animated movie, Sub Zero.
Red Oct and this. Nothing since.
DJ Tan The world is awash in semen.
das boot ?
oh right it was nazi sorry~
The Wolf’s Call on netflix is a decent sub flick
Enemy Below. But it was then...
Fire torpedoes!
0:56 best line of the movie 🤣
The other sub didn't get to use counter measures... because plot?
At least they can make the enemies realistic, not just dumb.
nah, they probably COULD use countermeasures, but the torpedoes didnt arm until they were literally right on top of the target, in all likelihood, the enemy sub commander detected that the torpedoes were not tracking his vessel, which would mean that they would likely miss their targets and thus use of countermeasures was unnecessary and could even have potentially wasted resources that would be needed later. enemy Skipper made a call, and it was the wrong call
Yup and the US scriptwriters are also really keen on "Russians shooting at too close a range" plot...
@@VersusARCH To be fair, it was likely a reactionary "FIRE NOW" once the Alabama suddenly appeared right next to them. Alabama subsequently taking the time to move far enough away to reach arming distance. And THEN, the Akula got off another shot during the confusion, Alabama not seeing it until it was too close to get away, even with countermeasures.
Now... Why Captain Ramses did not fire back during the first attack is potentially questionable. They were WAY outside safety range, and already at battle stations, having already manned Battle Stations Torpedo earlier on. So the torpedoes were hot and ready in the tubes, even while they switched to Battle Stations Missile.
Yes, because of plot. It is an American film.
Best practical movie explosion (implosion in this case) of the 1990s, the killshot on the Acula.
Love how everyone gives the new guy shit for not knowing about the 1000 yards to arm. Yet somehow the CAPTAIN of the Akula didn’t know this either 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣💀
Been saying it for years. Tony Scott was a better director than his brother Ridley
You might be right. Definetly better action director for sure. One of my favourite action directors.
RIP Tony Scott
When my dad's ship USS Midway was fired upon..they fire interceptors to divert the enemy's missle's from hitting and sinking the ship!
What a great piece of cinema
I appreciate Crimson Tide had actual underwater explosions. An explosion underwater is a bubble that implodes into itself
I LOVE THIS MOVIE AND THE POWER DYNAMICS!!! 🖤💪🏽👌✅
When all you need was a great script, actors and practical effects. How did they mess it up?
The closest thing that we can get denzel and tarantino collaboration
“Vossler? This is Captain Kirk. I need warp speed on that radio!”
Brilliant film
BRAVO MR.HUNTER!
Don't tell me the Akula is behind? If I understood this scene correctly, this would never have happened in real life. Those guys'd not even hear a peap, let alone the torpedos, given the Akula is in the baffles. Wow... I mean, that doesn't exactly take that much more research to figure out, especially when you've got millions of dollars at your disposal. And like bro, what is this radar thing? Radar underwater? What a joke. Like I said, they had millions of dollars at their disposal for research, and they couldn't get thee simple things right.
Could have been using a towed array
I love that I grew up Before Woke, and movies like this were still possible.
Sonar does not appear like a radar screen
Interesting. I have seen photographs of significantly damaged bows of submarines. There is usually a large spherical object that I believe is the sonar array. Now I am thinking that you might have a baseline passive or active sweep going from port to starboard and back again, with added input from sensor elements above and below that sweep. That would give a rough elevation and angular position fix. Add in the range somehow. That data set might be displayed on a CRT or LED monitor.
@@davidhoffman1278 why would a submarine use active sonar?
@@christopherlee7334 ,
Active might be used for collision avoidance with the underwater topography?
@@davidhoffman1278 why not just... look at sounding info from a commercially available chart?
@@christopherlee7334 ,
The commercial charting for deep ocean is not considered to be very accurate or precise. This is in light of numerous problems with the precision and accuracy of commercial coastal charts. The root cause of that? Numerous nations, including the USA, have failed to finance continuously updated ocean cartography the way it was during the height of the Cold War when undersea submarine warfare was a considered a high priority. Everyone today who goes out to explore or navigate the deep ocean knows they had better be ready to do their own form of sonar navigation and cartography.
The Hunt for Red October torpedo scene was much better. This is still done well and effective.
Sorry, but exchange the Akula for the Dallas in this scene to see what would have happened in Red October if the Dallas actually tried what they did in that movie. You don't outrun a proximity torpedo in a sub by letting it get that close. Crimson Tide was much better at showing what happens if you make a mistake as a sub commander.
Sonar, Con: We've got good comms so stop yelling in my ear, get a grip of yourself.
The standard is 1000yrd as a safety for the ship, you do not need to wait for the boat to be at 1000yrds because they are wire guided??? Plus you can remove the safety, but yes.... It's a movie.
Lol the little Dogo has the last words of approval:) haha
Who tf brings a dog on a sub 😂
Denzel is now older than gene was when this was filmed.
My biggest gripe is how tubes 2 and 4 are both on the port side in real life but they are port and stbd here 😢
That SSBN submarine has an engine of a Camaro
"Jesus, who'd ya fuck to get on this ship!"
Despite this movie being fantastically full of ****, this is about the most realistic portrayal in a movie I've seen how it is in the sonar shack when you're tracking something.
Lol the guy rocking in bed at the end made the entire video
CAPTAIN OF THE BOAT OWNS THAT BOAT
AND ALL THAT SAIL ON IT WILL FOLLOW THAT MAN
EVEN UNTO AND THRU PROBLEMS
Not if Denzel Washington is your XO!!!
"As Captain... I am responsible for the conduct of the crew under my command"
- Captain James T. Kirk
I just love the naming "Akula Class" That sounds like the most lethal shi$ ever. If I had a leg eating pit bull. That would be it's name. Male or female "Akula, attack!!!" It's freakin' OVER MAAANNN!!!!!...lmfao
Akula literally means "Shark", so it's not a bad choice. But the Akula in the movie isn't actually a Russian "Akula". That's just what the West called 'em.
@@NorthForkFisherman Either way, it's a Bad Ass name for a Sub division. Lol. But thanks for the Intel. I did not know that. Love
@@roberthayes2593 The real "Akula" is much, much scarier. Fortunately, there's only one of those now. And it's tied to a pier on the Kola Penisula, providing power for a town.
Funny how the world changed, eh?
@@NorthForkFisherman Are you Canadian? Lol. Thankfully it's being put to good use and helping the world. But I feel like Liz Lemon when I say this..."Thanks Nerds" lmao. God bless man. PEACE
That was the first mean thing I've ever said on ANY platform. My bad dude. I'm sorry. That was bullshit on my part.
I’ve always wondered as a kid...where the hell does that dog do his business???? 🤣🤣🤣
In one of the scenes after drill and fire, it is seen pissing on one of the missile silos.
Out the screen door of course. Play with the dogfish.
An old lady I know has trained her little dog to do doo on one of those jumbo sized puppy pee pads. Her goal is to eventually switch to a big version of a cat like litter box. I bet that dog the captain has is trained for a litter box.
Akula. Russian word for "Shark".
It was also what the Soviets called the Typhoon.
Sub that US calls Akula is actually called "Shchuka"- Pike. What US calls Typhoon is actually called "Akula" - Shark.
Alabama, in American means:
-We eat sharks
@@misterysmithers8566 America banned eating sharks.
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Great movie. So realistic.
This movie is a relic
Could someone who's a navy person please tell me something when he snapshots the missle do those missles actually make those whistle sounds or what ever it is in the water. I would think having to rely on sonar down there there's an opportunity for the missles to be noise free?
I'm not a navy guy I know that those type of sounds are common with very old bombs from world War ii so I'm just curious if the tec is fiction or what the deal really is down there.
BTW if your in the navy for bless you I mean that with all my heart I would gladly fly but I couldn't do submarine work and very in fresh waters on a sub irs a claustrophobics nightmare
The propellers on the torpedos travel at very high revolutions so in the water it's very high frequency. They're definitely loud but they don't drown out others.
I do not understand something. Why the torpedoes not pre-armed prior to launching?
I think that it's a safety issue. One wants to make sure that a package of high explosives leaving the submarine (i.e., the torpedo) is not armed until it is at a safe distance from the submarine. There have been accidents in which submarines have been sunk by their own torpedoes.
"Who'd ya fuck to get on this ship?
A submarine is a boat, sailor, so who'd you fuck to get on?
"American plot armor is out the Yin Yang"
- Confucius
every sailor should know their ship front to back even the weapons The Lead Sonar Tech was on the ball when he replied back to the other tech it takes a 1k yards for the weapons to arm then said how did you get on this ship. Begs the question how did that man get on the sub and just say just fire the torp when he should of known the 1k yard rule. according to the movie
captains thinking what the fuck is going on with my boat 1:57
Thank 😂❤theNavy❤😅😊
That "Was a Mk-45 torpedo" USS Alabama, NUKE- 5-kiloton, & was armed by, "WIRE" , It pay's out, from drum. in Alabama's launch tube. Signal, is sent by, Low freq. thru water, & received by that trailing, copper rewind, wire.
You don't need that many commas dude.
the mark 45 was retired in 1976, it probably was a non-nuclear mk 48 or mark 48 ADCAP torpedo. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_45_torpedo
@Alex Replay of the "Bedford Incident"
0:56 lmao
I love it, it's a great and funny way to present exposition.
1:06 The guy in the back with the red hair and glasses is my grandma's cousin aka my 1st cousin 2x removed. His name is Jim Boyce
Who noticed how the sonar man was sweating
There's only been one time a nuclear submarine has sunk another vessel in battle and that was during the Falkland's war.
As if anyone on that boat wouldn't know about the 1000 yards thing.
They have to let the audience know somehow. And at least they treat the question as something incredibly stupid for a submariner to ask.
The worst place for a submarine to get hit by a torpedo is the propeller.
What's movie name
So im gonna be that guy (Hollywood vs. reality)
1.) That sonar business...subs dont have radar displays like that which show subs and torpedoes. That ain't real. Yes they have displays, but nothing that looks that cool or that whole missile lock sound stuff.
2.) That 1000 yards to arm business is hollywood. There are presets for when torpedoes will arm, but they can be adjusted, or armed on command while running. Heck, they could even be armed immediately after launch, but it wouldn't be that safe.
3.) The snapshot firing of the torpedoes and torpedo evasion maneuvers were actually fairly realistic.
The best movie for "modern" submarine warfare is the end sequence of hunt for red october. That's all pretty darn legitimate.
I just noticed this for the first time but what a huge screw up they fired the torpedo's and there was no propeller and they were in front of the Akula. We should have seen the propeller because they would have had to fire the rear torpedo's
There's only been one time a nuclear submarine sunk another vessel in battle and that was during the Falkland's war.
"Enemy submarine sunk!"
Why would a SSBN travel alone without escort?
SSBN's need to travel stealthily.. it's not the mission of the SSN's to escort the SSBN's.. the
attack submarines job is to hunt the opposing navies ballistic missile submarines or if they're escorting carriers, to provide cover for the battlegroup from enemy attack subs..
no countermeasures for the rusky sub?
An Akula has roughly 25-30% less displacement than an Ohio class submarine. Unless the captain of the Akula is grossly incompetent which might very well be the case with a coup. But the Akula a sub without any nukes shouldn't be losing to an Ohio class all by itself without any LA class escorts. The Red October sub battles are way more realistic IMHO.
I don't understand. Why are the displacements of the respective submarines an issue here?
@@samuelweir5985 I think he’s talking about maneuverability, Ohio class is a dedicated ballistic missile sub with attack capabilities while the Akula class is a more agile dedicated attack sub.
@@teasea546 You're probably right. But submarine combat isn't like a fighter aircraft dogfight where maneuverability ranks high in importance. I would think that the importance of submarine maneuverability ranks pretty low in submarine combat compared to the sensitivities of the respective sonar systems and the quietness of the respective subs as well as other factors.
@@samuelweir5985 That's true. Though it could be argued that without the need to fit in ballistic-missile-capable vertical launch tubes, attack subs have less design constraints and are likely superior in those aspects as well, especially for combat situations. That being said, I'm no expert. @Russian Vodka could elaborate on his reasonings since he brought this up.
Actually I'd take the Alabama. In the real world sub vs sub combat isn't about maneuverability nor is it an underwater dog fight. Much more important are your sonar and noise signature. Top speed is tactically significant.
Denzel Washington.. Bravo!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Awesome kickass Submarine Battle!