@Clarissa the Crazy Ur right! Lite could be either one, and ur right, 3:00 is a perfect example why Feather is Lite! It;'s very confusing bc Lite could be Fire or Feather and there are many examples of how both can be Lite! Personally, I think Fire is LIte though! (I think Lite could be both but I'm leaning towards Fire) BUt u r totally right!
I think it's Feather since they definitely have a connection due to being out on the stretch for so long, they said I love you to each other, Feather looks a tiny bit more like Lite than Fire, and Fire was about to kill Nothing for a pride other than Lite when he never wanted to kill Kyoga for anything, especially a kingdom or pride.
It makes sense why Ghost interfered with Nothing challenging Fire, since the cycle involves Kyoga’s reincarnation killing Lite’s reincarnation. And in order to end the cycle Nothing has to avoid killing Lite’s reincarnation and focus on finding Asra. So it could be Fire, but I still wouldn’t be surprised if it was someone who we haven’t met yet.
Tight I think it’s fire the way Lite reacted and fire reacted is very similar u gotta admit that but at the same time there’s a possibility of fore being Lite
@@micahfrancis4326 yeah but she could've been saying it as in she has a purpose to do and she wasn't meant to die yet or be killed by Quickmane so I doubt it's him, besides he's already dead so he wouldn't be Lite's reincarnation
Nothing by the curse is "destined to kill lite" but she's actually meant to NOT kill him or else the cycle will only begin again. She has to make peace with lite in this life.
Every person that says Nothing is gonna be forced to kill Lite clearly didn't pay attention in episode 8. It is very clearly and expressly said that Nothing is NOT SUPPOSED TO KILL LITE. If she does that then the cycle of reincarnation and pride law continues and Cansu said very clearly they don't want that. They want Nothing to go find Azra instead and convince her to make amends with the other sisters so that this fued and pride law can end.
Well as a plot twist she could and the cycle could continue in a total new series (if they want to) but ehhhhh Idk maybe ur right but would be an amazing plot twist
I heard a life theory saying that if we have siblings we don’t get along with that means we were enemy’s in a past life. we reincarnated to be siblings to learn how to love each other. It made me think when I was watching the recent episode. It’s completely unrelated but it sits with me
if that`s true then i think me and my sister were enemies in the past life, beacuse its rare for us to get along for the whole day, first we get along and then when something happens we don´t get along..... I really hope we were animals in our past life
I personally think there’s going to be a big plot twist and it’s going to end up being feather I’m gonna also think it’s going to be fire but I think they’re going to go with the plot twist and make it feather or an unknown lion
I’m honestly still thinking it might be Proudmane, even though he’s sorta “out of the picture” for now. If you notice, comparing Proudmane to other manes we have met(Starmane, Quickmane, etc), the others appear to be more “Fuzzy on the details” as Starmane put it, when talking about the stories of the ancient Gods and Kingdoms. However, when Hover confesses her love for Nothing in front of Proudmane, he says “In my pride All the ancient laws are enforced” and he also seems extremely against relationships between lionesses, threatening Hover with a death punishment. While Quickmane didn’t seem to worry about it, in fact it was stated that they “accepted” it. Wouldn’t it make sense that Lite’s reincarnation be against lioness relationships? After all, that’s why Kyoga didn’t choose him. Weird side note, isn’t it interesting that Proudmane seems to have a larger vocabulary? He’s over here saying things like “your infraction” and when he got mad at the pride, he said “Flaming Eyes”? I’m really convinced there might be something going on with Proudmane.
I kinda have to disagree. In episode 8 (right?-) Asra said that Lite's life will be marked with suffering, and Proudmane's life was Going well, aswell as Quickmane, plus, Lite died way after Kyoga and Karabi, which is leading towards the fact he's way younger than Nothing or Hover. Either way, Proud nor Quick never cared for nothing, which is not what Lite would do, since, Nothing has the fear of anything going wrong, feeling quilty over every bad decision she has done, as well as Kyoga, meanwhile, Hover, has the same courage and boldness as Karabi, always telling Kyoga how it's her life, and her choice, which Hover did the same thing while getting ready for the naming ceremony, asking Nothing what was her name before they called her Nothing, and so would Lite in his reincarnation do, care for whoever Kyoga's reincarnation is. Proud nor Quick have ever run back or atleast take any responsibility of Nothing, while being Manes, Proud, "killed" Nothing, which Lite would not do. And then again, Fire, he only cared for Nothing in the pride, the only time he ever visited was before Hovers ceremony, getting her late. Feather, he always ran back or towards nothing, always finding her despite everything (Even tho I'm not exactly sure what's gonna happen in ep. 11) making sure she was alright. To your side note, Flaming eyes and all that other weird words are swear words, based mostly on what the goddesses did, or have. Like, Sunce's *flaming eyes*, watching upon Feather. Funny how i wrote this paragraph not making any sense aha.
@@kamykkkos We have no evidence Proud and Quick didnt care about her, they could just not be showing it, AND, nobody knows Nothing is actually Kyoga apart from rain and possibly ghost. We have no story impact or much screentime to say Proud and Quicks life is good, they couldve suffered on the stretch and their pride couldve disagreed with having him, like how hover and some others left in Episode 7.
@@rachaela9701 When he says "Don't ignore me! I am a mane and I will protect my pride-" (im pretty sure its this part and when Lite says: "Kyoga, im talking to you!"
@@rachaela9701 No sadly I dont. I dont make many videos and making videos is tough for me but I am working on My Pride Fanfics! I could find a way to post them or read them on youtube.
@@bettastar7587 cool! I myself am a webtoon artist although it just started :) My webtoon username is DoodleDooYEET and the comics I published is called Natatestrials, and epesode 2 is coming out soon 😊😆
@@moonblii_62 Oh.. I thought you meant that Feather couldn't be Lite because he died. Not that Fire is a cowardly A hole.. ok then I get it.. but I still think Feather is the more likely candidate. Think about it... Fire was nice until he feared for his life like a coward.. but Lite was a warrior and not a coward when it came to fighting like he was... heck Fire never could win a fair fight! He only bested Nothing because she was injured or even she would have beat him. Feather loves Nothing and it is clear it is becoming more than a love that is platonic or family/friendly like. Could you imagine how he (heck let's be fair, anyone in his position) might react when Hover finds Nothing and Feather finds Nothing and it is clear that Hover and Nothing have a thing when Feather is not only madly in live with her, but was the only one helping her out on the stretch for all of that time and felt like he was closest to her and loved her most? Heck, I don't think it would be evil to get really freaking pissed if she chose someone who let her go like Hover did right after her whole pride ripped her a new one... they all turned thier back on her including Hover. Nothing was wrong then too, but when Nothing was wrong to Hover, Hover turned her back in vengeance. When Nothing was wrong to Feather in a worse way (making him kill as a cub when he didn't want to hurt anyone) He still cared for her and wanted to support her. He is a better match for her when he is grown anyways.
@@haleymartin5798 uhm...feather and nothing are cousins which means they can’t mate, even in the live stream they all said “please don’t ship nothing x feather!” The only canon incest ship is proud x silent (proud is technically her uncle) not saying he can’t be lite because he and nothing are related just wanted to make a joke about how the fandom is so quick to switch things
@@moonblii_62 But you just said proud and silent are related and together. Also, that happens in the wild. They are lions. Not humans. Lastly, he looks just like Lite!. Also, if they are saying they cannot be shipped, it is only because they wanted to be sure poor Lite wouldn't have a claim to Nothing in this life.. (as he did in the past with a freaking engagement he had a right to be jealously protective over just like everyone else... if it was the female getting revenge on a cheater everyone would cheer after all) which still wouldn't make sense because of the silent stalk and proudmane thing soo... this doesn't bar the possibility of Feather X nothing feelings in Feather. Also, it wouldn't keep Feather from being Lite if he " couldn't" think of Nothing like that in this life due to being related either. In fact, that would be the best way for them to keep the gay relationship between Hover and Nothing going (which is a stupid dynamic and if they wanted to keep a gay relationship in the show I think someone should throw Farleap a bone because she obviously likes her) and have Lite kick rocks even if he stays nice his whole life... never being able to be together with his love Kyoga even in one life at all while the two who actually broke off the peace that was promised from the war that was going on before Lite and Kyoga were even born go off and skip into the sunset leaving him alone.
Everyone before the reveal of Fire: Omg Fire and tangled... SHIPPIIIING! Everyone about 5 minutes later before they could get that ship out:...Omg fire i hate you...No more ship
But everyone is assuming that when Lite is reborn, he is automatically a villain. The thing is... Nothing did not automatically follow the same exact path as hers. She is crippled, devalued in her pride from what I saw, and even fought a mane as a cub. Some very big differences in my mind. We are all assuming that Lite reborn will be evil, but like Nothing... Maybe he also had some drastic changes in life. It is worth noted.
@@rpredator3088 Fair, but it is fun to theorize and share thoughts with other another. I could be wrong and it will interesting for others to point out clues or things I missed in the eps that show it. I do know the story is interesting and I look forward to more.
I personally think that it’s Fire because Lite was the one who created pride law so it would make no sense that if Feather was Lite he would most likely not hate pride law, or it might be Ghost I think this because he said that he wanted to fix his world just like Nothing.....so maybe he regrets what he did back when he was in Lites original body and wants to fix everything with Nothing A.K.A Keoga and fix his life. It could also be lion we haven’t met yet, but that still doesn’t answer the question of who Lite is.
Think about it tho: Lite created Pride Law out of a desire to change society into the way he wanted it. Feather wants to change Pride Law into a society *he* wants.
I think Feather may ultimately turn out to be Lite. When Lite finally reached Kyoga and Kurabi, I noticed that though he was distressed at her abandoning him, he never directly aimed his animosity towards Kyoga. He continued to bargain and sought to be seen as Just in her eyes. With Fire and Nothing’s interaction, his patience is eventually waned and Fire turned to attacking Nothing’s character and physical ability in order to break her down. I also do not see the parallel of abandonment and suffering caused by Nothing’s decisions in their relationship. Now, on the other hand, with Feather and Nothing’s relationship, we now have a new development, one that could lead to Feather feeling abandoned by Nothing on the prideless stretch. I can imagine it playing out in Feather’s mind in the following: After striving with Nothing through many difficult situations, making known my love for her and unwavering faith in her, and ultimately sacrificing my own morals in order to save the life of her brother which, in the end, worked towards my own detriment and near death, she has left me behind. If you’d allow me to conjecture further, what if time moves differently in this abode of Azera’s, and by the time Nothing and Ghost have returned from that realm a significant amount of time has passed in the land of the mortals. This could contribute toward the revealing of Feather as Lite.
Yes! All of this! I genuinely feel that the parallels we're seeing in Fire's character to Lite are a red herring not only for the audience but for Nothing herself. She will believe that Fire is the enemy, but when she returns, it will be Feather there, fighting the system and slaughtering anyone in his way.
Fire: "ok, i killed the cub like you asked. Am i your mane now? The lionesses: "if you are so sure you killed him, then why is there just a patch of blood where he 'died'?" Fire: *"That little piece of-"*
@FallenLion Art Maybe I’m missing something, but isn’t WaterHunter the sister of PowerStrike, and therefore Nothing’s aunt, making her and Feather cousins?
Yeah I don’t really see a feather having any sort of incest interest in his own cousin technically nothing has been more of a mother/sister to him ever since they both have been banished from their own bride
@lucifer-jh7tu Incest is how prides work pretty much, but yes they're cousins. I don't think they had any romantic interest for eachother, they had a sibling like bond. Feather reminded me of Spark when he was still alive, I think that's what drew Nothing towards him
I just feel that Fire is Lite. Their personalities seem to match, and I think it just fits. It’s wild that this reincarnation of Lite would be Kyoga’s sister, though. I find it interesting.
My current guess is Fire. I saw someone else say that in episode 1 Sharptongue says "I see things you can not, I know" when referring to not wanting Quickmane to harm Nothing and Fire. What if she knows they are reincarnations of Lite and Kyoga and if Quickmane kills them then the cycle will repeat and they will just be reborn. What if she wanted the cycle to end so she kept Quickmane from killing them because she knew. This theory was thought of by someone else but it is a good theory!
It’s clearly fire because fire cares deeply for his sister but will wipe out anybody that gets in the way. All the signs are in fire’s change in personality, like killing tangle and trying to manipulate nothing into thinking that those requirements for taking over the pride was worth it. Fire and lite are also decently similar names and their hairstyles are also similar. Fire would be the perfect “oh shit plot twist” type of character to end up being lite.
Fire's actions in the finale make a lot of sense when you realise that deep down he's doing it out of fear. Just as he ran when Quick came, out of fear. FEAR is what drives a lot of Fire's actions. Fear of not surviving, fear that his friend was going to betray him and eat all the prey leaving him to starve, fear that the pride he's taken over won't accept him, fear that with everything he's done if he doesn't find a way to justify it he'll realise he's become a monster because of following Pride Law.
Chances of Fire being the re - incarnation of Lite 1. Both of them killed someone the main character really cares about. For Kyoga it was Karabi and for Nothing it was Feather. Although Feather didn't die, he was left all alone. 2. When Fire killed Tangle, he told that Tangle was gonna take the food for himself. When Lite killed Karabi, he said - She was gonna kill me, you heard her! They both did something horrible but blamed the other lion. They are liars as Lite created Pride Law and telling Kyoga was kidnapped even if she ran away happily and Fire telling that Tangle was gonna keep the food for himself. 3. Both Fire and Lite grew up with the protagonists of each life, Kyoga and Nothing. But later in life, Fire betrayed his sister and Lite killed Kyoga's love. 4. When lions don't help Lite and Fire, they easily get aggressive even if it wasn't the other lion's fault. For Lite, he yelled at Precisecharge thinking that Kyoga was kidnapped. For Fire, when Nothing could no help him kill Barkmane, he yelled at her even if she froze. 5. Fire pretended to love Nothing but now he called him a "Pathetic little curse". Lite did the same thing and killed Karabi and out of his hate he created the cruel Pride law of hate, fear, homophobia and gender discrimination.
I think it might be Feather, but he’s certainly different in this life, this doesn't mean I think he'll be a villain, I think that he'd be horrified to know who he used to be!
I don't see how it could be Feather, though, due to the fact Lite was the lion who created Pride law. A clip was shown of Feather admitting to Nothing of how much he hated pride law, and that he wanted to fix it whenever he got older. Maybe he'll change whenever he gets older, but the creator of the series mentioned they hated it whenever younger characters grow to be villains.
@@s0lar3clipse3 except the first part of Asra’s curse: every life you will live upon this earth will be marred by suffering. What better way for Asra to take Kyoga’s revenge than by tormenting Lite’s reincarnation than with the very system he built out of his hate? Plus, think of this: Proud was able to kill Quickmane because of his blind spot, something he knew because of Feather. Feather only met the rogues because of Nothing, Quickmane had a blindside because of Nothing. Indirectly, Feather was supposed to to die because of Nothing’s action, and he would’ve died, if not for Nothing. Nothing started the path to breaking the cycle by saving Feather.
I know Hover is probably Karabi, and Feather or Fire are Lite, but I think it would be a better twist for Hover to be Lite. Plus the fact that the lion who was punished because he loved Kyoga too much to be Nothing’s brother makes me really uncomfortable
Exactly, plus the creators of my pride have expressed their dislike towards children becoming villians, wich will most likely happen If feather is lite.
I made a theory, around a year ago that even if Fire isn't Lite's reincarnation, there's something off about the mark that was given to him. If you notice, ever since he got that mark he's become more and more selfish which is the complete opposite of how he was before he got that mark.
Fire is Lite. Do you get what I'm saying? Plus Nothing said about pride law she said she couldn't believe she didn't see it for what it was before. Then she turns and narrows her eyes at Fire saying she couldn't believe she didn't see him for what he was before. That's why I believe it's him.
In this life, I think fire is lite, fire has always loved his sister like lite loved Kioga, until fire gets mad and try’s to kill feather, and expects his sister to still help him, just like lite killed kerobei, lite still expected Kioga to like or love him
I think it’s Fire, because when Nothing was going to miss Hover’s ceramony Fire said, “who’s Hover?” After Nothing left. And when Fire was going to kill Nothing. Ghost stoped him. As if Nothing was supposed to kill Fire. :0
I think Light is Feather because Rain said Light will always have a connection to Kyoga. It is shown that Feather really likes Nothing in spite what she did to is father. In all account Father should hate Nothing, but fore some reason he doesn’t. It’s like he is destined to love Nothing.
In the first episode of my pride nothing says "asra may take me but you will never win" to quick mane later in in rains episode kyoga says"asra may take me but you will never win" its the same praise I think it gives you a hint of who lite actually is
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Feather did say he trained with one of his older sisters ( I forgot their names I haven't watched the series in ages) , so that's why fire thought feather was dead ( in episode 4 )
I don’t feel like it would be either of Nothing’s brothers because Light had romantic feelings for Kiyoga. I believe it’s somebody that we haven’t met yet. (Possibly Golden, who should appear later in the show.)
Actually, I was thinking the same. And unfortunately Feather isn't related to Nothing. I would like it to be either as another lion we haven't met yet or proud mane.
I think I remember rain saying that the shifting place will move if lite gets close to it in his lives so when feather goes to follow nothing the shifting place moves
I really feel like it's either Feather or Fire. Since the last 2 episodes Fire's actions makes me question if Fire is Lite. I'm beginning to think so, but Feather being Lite also makes sense. Lite has been through countless life times, where he has always died by Kyoga each time, and suffered in his lives as well. As Azra did say he would suffer in each life too. Feather realizing pride law is unfair, a law in which Lite made, makes it almost seem like he regrets the laws he Lite himself has made.
Feather might be Lite because of how Feather hates pride law. It could be his spirit changing and having regrets. Even if he doesn't have a full memory of his past lives. Rain would want to kill Feather/Lite (the falling tree branch and her ultimatum to Nothing) so Nothing would not be the one killing him, thus ending the cycle. Feather is also naturally good at tracking and strategizing, which are skills Lite needed. He tracked Kyoga and Karabi down and he lead a pride kingdom army into war. Those might have carried over through the past lives.
1. In the scene where Nothing walks off with Ghost and Fire calls her back, she says “I can’t believe I didn’t see you for who you are” and I think this is referring to her maybe figuring that maybe Fire is Lite 2. We’ve all assumed that Karabi was Hover, but it can be possible that Feather is Karabi, it might be a stretch but you don’t really have to be the same gender as the life before you 3. Karabi doesn’t even need another life in a present time, the curse was put on Lite to always be killed by Kyoga, but never does that include Karabi
Tribble said in the livestream recap of season 1 that feather is nothing’s cousin and that they do not want to have a in family love relationship between them
@@Changingtesting i mean, it maybe doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, but a familiar or platonic relationship as well. as they stated before in the show that you can love friends and family. but again, karabi is not important in the curse as she was not the one who got cursed, so she wouldn't need to be reborned.
I have a theory of my own. Asura had a mate. He died but, how do we know she wasn't pregnant with his cubs at the time. That's were I think Ghost comes in. I think Ghost has these powers because he's a dependent of the youngest sister. Also... I really Really REALLY, don't want want Light to be Feather. He has potential & Fire is the one who has alot to make right.
Okay, I don't mean to offend, but I don't like this argument. Feather didn't hate Pride Law until it affected him. It was a nurture situation rather than a nature one. Just because someone is Lite's reincarnation, doesn't automatically mean they'll become a villian or won't change. While it seems likely that Fire is Lite, there's still a chance it could be Feather.
I think its Fire because of the first episode, where Sharpetounge said "If it was the will of the Three Sisters for them to die, they would already be dead. If you harm these cubs you'll earn the ire of the Goddesses themselves." [...] "I see things you cannot. I know."
I think it’s feather. Mostly because he tells Nothing he loves her when they are on the pride-less stretch together, But Nothing doesn’t respond that she loves him at first. Kind of hinting to the relationship their past reincarnations had.
What if it’s ghost? Just here me out, ghost is very odd and mysterious. No one knows much about him and protected nothing from fire. And if it isn’t ghost I do believe it will be fire.
spoiler warning ig? this entire vid is a spoiler so idk personally I think it's fire. I believe (like alot of people) that ghost is a collection of the spirits asra hasn't been collecting. they refer to themselves in third person and as we. and the scene where tangle speaks through ghost could also be evidence.
it's Feather, just pay attention to what Asra said, all the signs point to Feather Feather is very similar to Lite, and he doesn't die from Fire's bite, and this bite was definitely not a weak bite to keep him alive, this happens because the one who should kill Feather is Nothing and not Fire, and Feather also has a passion for Nothing, and probably when Feather grows up and Nothing and Hover meet again we will have a fight between these three
I feel like it's either fire or feather. For now, i think 60% fire, and 40% feather. Before episodes 9 and 10, it was the opposite for me. Plus, i saw tribble hearting all the comments that said fire was lite, and yet at the same time she showed feather after sunce had appeared in the pride lore video. I feel like she's either trying to confuse us, or one of the two options prove to be right. Usually, all the hearted comments end up being canon, like the "fearleap has a crush on hover" ones. Tribble hearted all the comments that stated that farleap had a crush on hover; She later on confirmed on discord that farleap is indeed lesbian. So yeah. I feel like fire is lite. But why would she keep feather alive..? Hm. I don't know. I'm really confused tbh
She might be keeping characters linked to goddesses alive, as we see in the Pride Lore:Goddesses video we see Hover linked to Kansu, she’s alive, Nothing linked to Azara, alive, and Feather linked to Sunce, who’s also alive
Really weird thing I noticed, but the relationship between Kyoga and Light started out much the same as nothing and fires now. Kyoga went from being “In love“ with light to hating him for killing Karabi, much like how nothing went from admiring or loving her brother to hating him for what he’s become. Almost like Light was hiding within fire until then.
sometimes Tangled comes to mind for always being so caring towards Nothing. Also in episode 10 he knew about everything that happened to Nothing and he knew her motives
At first when I heard that Lite had a reincarnated life like Nothing's old self I had immediately thought Lite's reincarnation was QuickMane but QuickMane died so after episode 10 I belive Lite is truly Fire
In my opinion, it's Feather. 1. He really seems to love Nothing, and maybe even in a romantic way. Fire maybe loved Nothing, but not nearly as much as Feather. 2. Feather wants to be with Nothing and no one else because Feather didn't want to be with Fire or any other pride. He used to be buddies with Fire but when sees him again, he doesn't seem to care. 3.Feather seems to look more like Lite and also has suffered like Lite. His father and sisters are dead and he won't see his mother any time soon. While Fire did kill Tangle, he didn't know him as well as Feather did with his family. 4. Feather also said that he wanted to kill Proudmane. 5. I think it has all been leading up to this and Fire is just an example of what pride law can do to lions.
I don't really think that Feather is Lite, because I feel like, he loves Nothing like a sister or dearest friend, but maybe because he kinda survived Nothings disappearance could fill him with anger and betrayal, yet still he could love her as a friend. But, I wanted to talk about Fire, because I think he is Lite. First of all his name, it sounds pretty similarly to light, and you can light things on fire. Which can be absolutely wrong and crazy idea or it could be foreshadowing. Another reason why I think Fire is Lite is because, at the start of the series/season 1, Sharp Tongue was telling sort of origin the lions, and Fire interrupted her telling her that she's wrong, which could mean he actually is the reincarnation of Lite and he knows his origin well. And I think that (Nothing) Kyoga could at some point find unaliving Lite, but she wouldn't be couse of his unaliving, and she could forgive Lite, and the curse cycle will be finally broken. (If there are any grammar mistakes I'm sorry for bleeding your eyes out, but English is not my first language. :DD)
I feel its Fire because of the whole "I had to kill them-" with Lite"I had to strike first shes crazy" and with Fire killing Tangle bevause he didnt think Tangle would share. While Feather is really against the idea of killing other lions at current he doesnt seem like the type of lion to kill a lioness with a petty motivation- despite not even being fully grown he spoke to Nothing on why he wanted to leave talking it out instead- but that's just my opinion
I think it's Fire. That's because trough-out the series, Nothing and Feather get a more of a brother-sister realationship, like Fire and Nothing had it back at the pride
I agree with about everything mentioned in this video. If you pay close attention to the two scenes that are shown at 6:48, both Fire and Lite's voices are very similar. You can tell that, in episode 8 whenever we were viewing what happened between Kyoga, Lite, and Karabi, Kyoga's voice is very similar to Nothing's, and we later find out that Nothing is in fact a reincarnation of Kyoga. I'm guessing that reincarnations will be very similar to what they were in their previous life (I don't believe in reincarnation crap), and maybe even have the same voices, and that might explain why Fire and Lite have very similar voices. I also have no doubt that it is not Feather, since, stating the obvious, Lite was the lion to create pride law, and in one of the clips shown, Feather explains to Nothing how much he hates pride law and wants to get rid of it whenever he's older. Second of all, I think the creator mentioned they did not like it whenever a younger character grows to be a villain.
IM not all 100% on this but what if spark survived quickmane when nothing and her pride was attacked. Now spark is killing everyone in his path like lite to find nothing bc he loves her more since she was the one that attacked quickmane after he "died". I'm not fully on this track I'm more on the side that lite is fire but this is still a possibility. It would be a huge twist if it really ends up happening🫢🫢
I'm all on it being Feather. I think the parallels placed in Fire's story are diversions, ways to convince Nothing to believe it's Fire and make it that much more difficult when she realizes after returning that Feather is the one who has developed into the illogical villain of her story.
It has to be Fire! Lite made Pride law, while Fire show's that he respects Pride Law. In a few episodes they show very similar arguments, when Lite said: "Im talking to you!" and Fire says "Dont ignore me!" Both said in a similar tone. Not to mention Lite says "I had to strike first!" and Fire killed Tangle, because he was hungry. Its clear Nothing is Kyoga. When Lite kills Karabi Kyoga does nothing, and when Fire "kills" Feather, Nothing does- well, nothing. Fire and Lite both appear to have a short fuse aswell. But, thats just me. Like some people said, Feather has potential for becoming a villian, and its obvious from the start Lite is a villian. But, Fire and Lite seem to have more similarities. I love this theory! Good job on this!
A bit late commenting on this, but amidst all this speculation, I'd like to throw my two cents in. So many people think Feather could be Lite, while *I* believe it's either Fire or some lion we have yet to even meet. I feel that it is completely *impossible* for Feather to be Lite, due to one reason and one reason only. Feather is YOUNGER than Nothing. The way Asra's curse is apparently set up, is that Lite and Kyoga will be reincarnated into new lives in a seemingly endless cycle. Kyoga's reincarnations will be the death of Lite's reincarnations in every single life he is reborn into. From what I've seen of reincarnation, it seems that as soon as a soul leaves the body of one who dies, it enters someone new at the moment of their birth, so I am going with that logic. So, Nothing, being the current incarnation of Kyoga, would have to have killed whomever Lite was *before* Feather was even born, in order for Feather to inherit the soul of Lite. And have we seen Nothing ever kill another lion? No. No, we have not. Nothing has never killed anyone, to my knowledge. I believe that whomever Lite is now would have to be at least equal in age to Nothing, or older than her. Say Kyoga's previous incarnation just before Nothing's turn killed Lite at some point, then went on to live a full and happy life. Lite's soul would have been reincarnated into someone new at the moment he died, and his new self would grow up. Kyoga's previous incarnation would have eventually grown old and died, prompting her reincarnation into Nothing. There is also the possibility that in their most previous lives, Kyoga would have killed Lite, but died in the process, so they both died at the same time. And if *that* happened, they'd pretty much be the same age as each other. And I know one lion that fits the bill perfectly. So, I'm thinking it's Fire.
Theory: Fire loves Nothing, but when the time came, he instantly betrayed her and fought her like she wanted. I know that Fire would not do that, but what if it was an instinct because he is lite? An instinct would have kicked in, and told Fire “kill her”, to the point he’d attack her, and like you said, it’s not like him when he snapped, and instincts All came up, and he tried killing her because instincts said so, instincts from, him, Lite.
Heres my theory: I think Lite is Quick mane since when nothing scratches his eye she says: Azra May take me but you will never win. And she said the same thing while being kayoga. But the thing is in episode 8 while Rain was showing nothing her past life story at the end she said: You have to kill Lite in whatever life he is now. And hearing that and knowing that Quick mane is dead then... Nothing might need to wait and find Lite in his another life and might need to kill him while hes a cub. Heres another theory why I think Lite is Quick mane. In epsidoe 8 Kayoga said that lite will be cursed forever (Or something) and when Quick mane killed star mane and spark. And since they were close to nothing, Quickmane lost his eye. And when he tried to hurt nothing again(į dont remember which episode was it) He got killed by proud mane. BUT theres a catch. Only Quickmane got punished by nothing and no one else which leads to a theory that Quickmane might be lite.
After watching my pride i think i know who light is... its Proud Mane. Think about it! He said that pride law forbids relationships with huntresses, and how they belong to their manes. As well as when hover told proud that she loved nothing proud said that he could technically kill her because it's a crime thats punishable by death. He's very stuck on where pride law is the Mane takes full control of the lioness. I belive Light in this life time is Proud mane...
Well ghost stopped nothing from killing fire most likely because if they continued she would kill him, and the cycle would just go on and on and on once again.
I think it is Proudmane he was the only lion that cared about the law that says “ lionesses belong to their manes”. Then Hunt chief says “ that law is rarely followed”. So maybe it could be Proudmane.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but I belive it’s fire, because when we see lite grow up, he’s kind and caring, but he is soon corrupted by jealousy as an adult, while fire follows the same path, becoming more resentful with age, causing both lite and fire to kill out of this (“kill” in fires case)
There's also a clever sneaky thing they snuck in. A blink and you'll miss it type detail. Cansu said that Sunce's rage destroyed the Emerald Valley... By _fire_ _Fire_ destroyed the Emerald Valley.
Honestly after watching the origin/story episode just now after listening to everything you just said, I think I'm leaning towards Feather being Light. Primarily because of the foreshadowing they've already given us with how their old and current selves look similar (Nothing's general pelt pattern and coloring, Hover's crescents under her eye, and then Feather's hair and pelt primarily match up to Light) but honestly I'm not sure
I 100% think Fire is Lite but the thing is have you noticed how similar Lite and Feather look or is that just me. Also what if another character comes in and they're Lite. You never know.
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All of your theories make me so happy!
Fire
Fire and lights voice are the same (hint hint)
@Clarissa the Crazy Ur right! Lite could be either one, and ur right, 3:00 is a perfect example why Feather is Lite! It;'s very confusing bc Lite could be Fire or Feather and there are many examples of how both can be Lite! Personally, I think Fire is LIte though! (I think Lite could be both but I'm leaning towards Fire) BUt u r totally right!
I think it's Feather since they definitely have a connection due to being out on the stretch for so long, they said I love you to each other, Feather looks a tiny bit more like Lite than Fire, and Fire was about to kill Nothing for a pride other than Lite when he never wanted to kill Kyoga for anything, especially a kingdom or pride.
@@lillyflovv6930 Do you mean Fire? Feather was "killed" by Fire in episode ten, and Fire was the one going to kill Nothing
It makes sense why Ghost interfered with Nothing challenging Fire, since the cycle involves Kyoga’s reincarnation killing Lite’s reincarnation. And in order to end the cycle Nothing has to avoid killing Lite’s reincarnation and focus on finding Asra. So it could be Fire, but I still wouldn’t be surprised if it was someone who we haven’t met yet.
Tight I think it’s fire the way Lite reacted and fire reacted is very similar u gotta admit that but at the same time there’s a possibility of fore being Lite
"azra may take me but you will never win" kyoga said that to Lite and Nothing said that to quickmane. So I think Lite is Quickmane
@@micahfrancis4326 yeah but she could've been saying it as in she has a purpose to do and she wasn't meant to die yet or be killed by Quickmane so I doubt it's him, besides he's already dead so he wouldn't be Lite's reincarnation
I just remembered what Nothing said “Azara may take me, but you will never win” thats what keoga said when she cursed lite
@@micahfrancis4326 but quick is dead now
"Being a reincarnation of Kyoga automatically makes you a lesbian."
-Siberian Sushi, 2021
When your so gay that it happened in your past lives:
@@truches7509 Fhysnkewfi
When you are so gay that you pass it down for thousands of reincarnations:
@@Hatchimatchii that’s what the comment before you just said lmao
@@alexandrangl11 lmao I didn’t even read it
Nothing by the curse is "destined to kill lite" but she's actually meant to NOT kill him or else the cycle will only begin again. She has to make peace with lite in this life.
That's why I think it could be fire his brother
@Grace Yun Sorry, I don't speak English, I use a translator and some words don't come out right, I just read a little English.
@@AlfysArtCave Thats fine and understandable.
@@MysticalSkyYT oki
And that would make sense why Ghost stepped in to stop the cycle
Every person that says Nothing is gonna be forced to kill Lite clearly didn't pay attention in episode 8. It is very clearly and expressly said that Nothing is NOT SUPPOSED TO KILL LITE. If she does that then the cycle of reincarnation and pride law continues and Cansu said very clearly they don't want that. They want Nothing to go find Azra instead and convince her to make amends with the other sisters so that this fued and pride law can end.
FINALLY
Which means she would have to make amends with her own brother as well. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
@@Kilava1231 or she can just pretend he doesn’t exist both are plausible options
Well as a plot twist she could and the cycle could continue in a total new series (if they want to) but ehhhhh Idk maybe ur right but would be an amazing plot twist
Well there not going to make another episode for a WHILE because of the creators mental health.
I heard a life theory saying that if we have siblings we don’t get along with that means we were enemy’s in a past life. we reincarnated to be siblings to learn how to love each other. It made me think when I was watching the recent episode. It’s completely unrelated but it sits with me
Whoa that’s a really cool theory! That would make sense if it’s true.
That's actually really good proof that Fire is Lite's reincarnation and I think you're right
So this means my she-devil sister was my enemy....................NICE!
Omg... it makes so much sense now!
if that`s true then i think me and my sister were enemies in the past life, beacuse its rare for us to get along for the whole day, first we get along and then when something happens we don´t get along..... I really hope we were animals in our past life
Sushi’s ears during this video: 🦟🦗🦟🦗🦟
Lmao yea
Don’t mention sushi girl from grubhub
@@ReviCat youve got my icon twins💖💖💖💖💖💖
@@freefall8285 lol
I got the icon from screen shotting the video: “Feather Being Adorable”
@@ReviCat same!
It's definitely Fire
Anybody evil enough to kill a Cinnamon Roll like Tangle and try to kill Feather is definitely Lite's reincarnation
**Also the scar and the battle he described on how he got it. Lite got it in the exact same way.**
I personally think there’s going to be a big plot twist and it’s going to end up being feather I’m gonna also think it’s going to be fire but I think they’re going to go with the plot twist and make it feather or an unknown lion
@Rexxka Ik
*C I N N A M O N R O L L*
agreed, plus his scar is like lites
I’m honestly still thinking it might be Proudmane, even though he’s sorta “out of the picture” for now. If you notice, comparing Proudmane to other manes we have met(Starmane, Quickmane, etc), the others appear to be more “Fuzzy on the details” as Starmane put it, when talking about the stories of the ancient Gods and Kingdoms. However, when Hover confesses her love for Nothing in front of Proudmane, he says “In my pride All the ancient laws are enforced” and he also seems extremely against relationships between lionesses, threatening Hover with a death punishment. While Quickmane didn’t seem to worry about it, in fact it was stated that they “accepted” it. Wouldn’t it make sense that Lite’s reincarnation be against lioness relationships? After all, that’s why Kyoga didn’t choose him.
Weird side note, isn’t it interesting that Proudmane seems to have a larger vocabulary? He’s over here saying things like “your infraction” and when he got mad at the pride, he said “Flaming Eyes”? I’m really convinced there might be something going on with Proudmane.
I kinda have to disagree.
In episode 8 (right?-) Asra said that Lite's life will be marked with suffering, and Proudmane's life was Going well, aswell as Quickmane, plus, Lite died way after Kyoga and Karabi, which is leading towards the fact he's way younger than Nothing or Hover.
Either way, Proud nor Quick never cared for nothing, which is not what Lite would do, since, Nothing has the fear of anything going wrong, feeling quilty over every bad decision she has done, as well as Kyoga, meanwhile, Hover, has the same courage and boldness as Karabi, always telling Kyoga how it's her life, and her choice, which Hover did the same thing while getting ready for the naming ceremony, asking Nothing what was her name before they called her Nothing, and so would Lite in his reincarnation do, care for whoever Kyoga's reincarnation is.
Proud nor Quick have ever run back or atleast take any responsibility of Nothing, while being Manes, Proud, "killed" Nothing, which Lite would not do.
And then again, Fire, he only cared for Nothing in the pride, the only time he ever visited was before Hovers ceremony, getting her late.
Feather, he always ran back or towards nothing, always finding her despite everything (Even tho I'm not exactly sure what's gonna happen in ep. 11) making sure she was alright.
To your side note, Flaming eyes and all that other weird words are swear words, based mostly on what the goddesses did, or have.
Like, Sunce's *flaming eyes*, watching upon Feather.
Funny how i wrote this paragraph not making any sense aha.
@@kamykkkos We have no evidence Proud and Quick didnt care about her, they could just not be showing it, AND, nobody knows Nothing is actually Kyoga apart from rain and possibly ghost. We have no story impact or much screentime to say Proud and Quicks life is good, they couldve suffered on the stretch and their pride couldve disagreed with having him, like how hover and some others left in Episode 7.
@@pondchlorine5181 you're one year late, idc about my pride anymore
@@kamykkkos and i dont care im late
@@pondchlorine5181 cool ig
It sounded like Lite and Fire have the same voice actor near the end lol
I do think Fire is Lite btw.
Which part is that?
@@rachaela9701 When he says "Don't ignore me! I am a mane and I will protect my pride-" (im pretty sure its this part and when Lite says: "Kyoga, im talking to you!"
@@bettastar7587 Do you post comics on webtoon? I now subscribed to you channel :3
@@rachaela9701 No sadly I dont. I dont make many videos and making videos is tough for me but I am working on My Pride Fanfics! I could find a way to post them or read them on youtube.
@@bettastar7587 cool! I myself am a webtoon artist although it just started :) My webtoon username is DoodleDooYEET and the comics I published is called Natatestrials, and epesode 2 is coming out soon 😊😆
Everyone: feather is lite!
Episode 10: r u sure about that?
He is still alive. There is the clip at the end of him running after them after the credits saying he faked death and got away
@@haleymartin5798 I know?
@@moonblii_62
Oh.. I thought you meant that Feather couldn't be Lite because he died. Not that Fire is a cowardly A hole.. ok then I get it.. but I still think Feather is the more likely candidate.
Think about it... Fire was nice until he feared for his life like a coward.. but Lite was a warrior and not a coward when it came to fighting like he was... heck Fire never could win a fair fight! He only bested Nothing because she was injured or even she would have beat him.
Feather loves Nothing and it is clear it is becoming more than a love that is platonic or family/friendly like. Could you imagine how he (heck let's be fair, anyone in his position) might react when Hover finds Nothing and Feather finds Nothing and it is clear that Hover and Nothing have a thing when Feather is not only madly in live with her, but was the only one helping her out on the stretch for all of that time and felt like he was closest to her and loved her most? Heck, I don't think it would be evil to get really freaking pissed if she chose someone who let her go like Hover did right after her whole pride ripped her a new one... they all turned thier back on her including Hover. Nothing was wrong then too, but when Nothing was wrong to Hover, Hover turned her back in vengeance. When Nothing was wrong to Feather in a worse way (making him kill as a cub when he didn't want to hurt anyone) He still cared for her and wanted to support her. He is a better match for her when he is grown anyways.
@@haleymartin5798 uhm...feather and nothing are cousins which means they can’t mate, even in the live stream they all said “please don’t ship nothing x feather!” The only canon incest ship is proud x silent (proud is technically her uncle) not saying he can’t be lite because he and nothing are related just wanted to make a joke about how the fandom is so quick to switch things
@@moonblii_62
But you just said proud and silent are related and together. Also, that happens in the wild. They are lions. Not humans.
Lastly, he looks just like Lite!. Also, if they are saying they cannot be shipped, it is only because they wanted to be sure poor Lite wouldn't have a claim to Nothing in this life.. (as he did in the past with a freaking engagement he had a right to be jealously protective over just like everyone else... if it was the female getting revenge on a cheater everyone would cheer after all) which still wouldn't make sense because of the silent stalk and proudmane thing soo... this doesn't bar the possibility of Feather X nothing feelings in Feather.
Also, it wouldn't keep Feather from being Lite if he " couldn't" think of Nothing like that in this life due to being related either. In fact, that would be the best way for them to keep the gay relationship between Hover and Nothing going (which is a stupid dynamic and if they wanted to keep a gay relationship in the show I think someone should throw Farleap a bone because she obviously likes her) and have Lite kick rocks even if he stays nice his whole life... never being able to be together with his love Kyoga even in one life at all while the two who actually broke off the peace that was promised from the war that was going on before Lite and Kyoga were even born go off and skip into the sunset leaving him alone.
Everyone before the reveal of Fire: Omg Fire and tangled... SHIPPIIIING!
Everyone about 5 minutes later before they could get that ship out:...Omg fire i hate you...No more ship
Tangled is a snacc
i now ship Tangled and Nothing... >///
@@angelinabalaban1152 Isn't Tangle gay? And Nothing likes Hover.
@@angelinabalaban1152 the fact Nothings lesbian
I don’t think it’s Feather bc the creator has said that she hates it when young kids turn into villains
I don't feel like he is the villan any more than the others
But everyone is assuming that when Lite is reborn, he is automatically a villain. The thing is... Nothing did not automatically follow the same exact path as hers. She is crippled, devalued in her pride from what I saw, and even fought a mane as a cub. Some very big differences in my mind. We are all assuming that Lite reborn will be evil, but like Nothing... Maybe he also had some drastic changes in life. It is worth noted.
@@fallenreaper4064 well it is the first season but I’m still doubtful it’s Feather
@@rpredator3088 Fair, but it is fun to theorize and share thoughts with other another. I could be wrong and it will interesting for others to point out clues or things I missed in the eps that show it. I do know the story is interesting and I look forward to more.
@@fallenreaper4064 I agree it is I hope we see more of Silentstalk
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I personally think that it’s Fire because Lite was the one who created pride law so it would make no sense that if Feather was Lite he would most likely not hate pride law, or it might be Ghost I think this because he said that he wanted to fix his world just like Nothing.....so maybe he regrets what he did back when he was in Lites original body and wants to fix everything with Nothing A.K.A Keoga and fix his life. It could also be lion we haven’t met yet, but that still doesn’t answer the question of who Lite is.
Tbh fire has his own pride now he’s most likely be gone for the whole series now
Think about it tho: Lite created Pride Law out of a desire to change society into the way he wanted it. Feather wants to change Pride Law into a society *he* wants.
you all make sense in you’re own ways, hopefully we’ll see soon who Lite actually is. I hope you have a great day or night!
Ghost is an amalgamation of dead souls....
Lol I have the exact mind as you-
It's Fire. It has to be Fire. He practically represented Lite killing Karabi when he attacked Feather, while Nothing was Kyoga watching in tears.
I think Feather may ultimately turn out to be Lite. When Lite finally reached Kyoga and Kurabi, I noticed that though he was distressed at her abandoning him, he never directly aimed his animosity towards Kyoga. He continued to bargain and sought to be seen as Just in her eyes. With Fire and Nothing’s interaction, his patience is eventually waned and Fire turned to attacking Nothing’s character and physical ability in order to break her down. I also do not see the parallel of abandonment and suffering caused by Nothing’s decisions in their relationship. Now, on the other hand, with Feather and Nothing’s relationship, we now have a new development, one that could lead to Feather feeling abandoned by Nothing on the prideless stretch. I can imagine it playing out in Feather’s mind in the following: After striving with Nothing through many difficult situations, making known my love for her and unwavering faith in her, and ultimately sacrificing my own morals in order to save the life of her brother which, in the end, worked towards my own detriment and near death, she has left me behind. If you’d allow me to conjecture further, what if time moves differently in this abode of Azera’s, and by the time Nothing and Ghost have returned from that realm a significant amount of time has passed in the land of the mortals. This could contribute toward the revealing of Feather as Lite.
Yes! All of this! I genuinely feel that the parallels we're seeing in Fire's character to Lite are a red herring not only for the audience but for Nothing herself. She will believe that Fire is the enemy, but when she returns, it will be Feather there, fighting the system and slaughtering anyone in his way.
yes we also see many signs throughout the series pointing towards feather being light the main one being the lightning strike hitting the tree branch
That would actually be so sad
Fire: "ok, i killed the cub like you asked. Am i your mane now?
The lionesses: "if you are so sure you killed him, then why is there just a patch of blood where he 'died'?"
Fire: *"That little piece of-"*
The Lioness Watching Feather Leave; 🤐
I think Feather loves Nothing like a relative; Not the same way Nothing loves Hover.
@FallenLion Art Maybe I’m missing something, but isn’t WaterHunter the sister of PowerStrike, and therefore Nothing’s aunt, making her and Feather cousins?
Yeah I don’t really see a feather having any sort of incest interest in his own cousin technically nothing has been more of a mother/sister to him ever since they both have been banished from their own bride
@lucifer-jh7tu Incest is how prides work pretty much, but yes they're cousins. I don't think they had any romantic interest for eachother, they had a sibling like bond. Feather reminded me of Spark when he was still alive, I think that's what drew Nothing towards him
I just feel that Fire is Lite. Their personalities seem to match, and I think it just fits. It’s wild that this reincarnation of Lite would be Kyoga’s sister, though. I find it interesting.
My current guess is Fire. I saw someone else say that in episode 1 Sharptongue says "I see things you can not, I know" when referring to not wanting Quickmane to harm Nothing and Fire. What if she knows they are reincarnations of Lite and Kyoga and if Quickmane kills them then the cycle will repeat and they will just be reborn. What if she wanted the cycle to end so she kept Quickmane from killing them because she knew. This theory was thought of by someone else but it is a good theory!
It’s clearly fire because fire cares deeply for his sister but will wipe out anybody that gets in the way. All the signs are in fire’s change in personality, like killing tangle and trying to manipulate nothing into thinking that those requirements for taking over the pride was worth it. Fire and lite are also decently similar names and their hairstyles are also similar. Fire would be the perfect “oh shit plot twist” type of character to end up being lite.
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Fire's actions in the finale make a lot of sense when you realise that deep down he's doing it out of fear. Just as he ran when Quick came, out of fear. FEAR is what drives a lot of Fire's actions.
Fear of not surviving, fear that his friend was going to betray him and eat all the prey leaving him to starve, fear that the pride he's taken over won't accept him, fear that with everything he's done if he doesn't find a way to justify it he'll realise he's become a monster because of following Pride Law.
I thought Feather not being where the blood was was an animation error
Nope nope, go back and stay until after the credits ;D
I really hope that this is how the story will go since it seems obvious that Hover would be Karabi, It would be more interesting if Feather is Karabi.
Notice how the two claw-like marks are now on Feather’s neck as well. Didn’t Karabi die from claw marks to the neck?
Phoenix Skulldog Those were tooth marks, since Fire bit his neck.
@@fabplays6559 that’s why I said ‘claw-like’.
@@fabplays6559 like how they looked similar to the claw marks Karabi had in her neck
In one of the dreams, I'm pretty sure Nothing saw Hover with the same wound Karabi got when she was killed by Lite
Chances of Fire being the re - incarnation of Lite
1. Both of them killed someone the main character really cares about. For Kyoga it was Karabi and for Nothing it was Feather. Although Feather didn't die, he was left all alone.
2. When Fire killed Tangle, he told that Tangle was gonna take the food for himself. When Lite killed Karabi, he said - She was gonna kill me, you heard her! They both did something horrible but blamed the other lion. They are liars as Lite created Pride Law and telling Kyoga was kidnapped even if she ran away happily and Fire telling that Tangle was gonna keep the food for himself.
3. Both Fire and Lite grew up with the protagonists of each life, Kyoga and Nothing. But later in life, Fire betrayed his sister and Lite killed Kyoga's love.
4. When lions don't help Lite and Fire, they easily get aggressive even if it wasn't the other lion's fault. For Lite, he yelled at Precisecharge thinking that Kyoga was kidnapped. For Fire, when Nothing could no help him kill Barkmane, he yelled at her even if she froze.
5. Fire pretended to love Nothing but now he called him a "Pathetic little curse". Lite did the same thing and killed Karabi and out of his hate he created the cruel Pride law of hate, fear, homophobia and gender discrimination.
Even if Hover WAS Lite, Nothing can't kill her because her goal is to break the cycle by not killing Lite
True
I think Hover is Karabi
@@makaylareynolds8617 she is lol there was a jump scare with hover and she turned around and had a scar on her neck. Karabi got one from Lite too
yeah, or feather being Lite.
buut what if Proud is Lite...
When feather “died” I was like No he was so passionate with changing pride law
hes not DEAD
@@maldaughterofmalificent7084 ik he’s not dead
😂😂😂 same
@@maldaughterofmalificent7084 hence the quotations ;)
same! i had the urge to create Nothing getting revenge and ruining the cycle
Lite definitely had better motives for his misdeeds than Fire did.
6:40 Fire also tried to push the blame onto tangle just like Lite did when he killed Karabi.
I think it might be Feather, but he’s certainly different in this life, this doesn't mean I think he'll be a villain, I think that he'd be horrified to know who he used to be!
I don't see how it could be Feather, though, due to the fact Lite was the lion who created Pride law. A clip was shown of Feather admitting to Nothing of how much he hated pride law, and that he wanted to fix it whenever he got older. Maybe he'll change whenever he gets older, but the creator of the series mentioned they hated it whenever younger characters grow to be villains.
Yeah
@@s0lar3clipse3 except the first part of Asra’s curse: every life you will live upon this earth will be marred by suffering. What better way for Asra to take Kyoga’s revenge than by tormenting Lite’s reincarnation than with the very system he built out of his hate? Plus, think of this: Proud was able to kill Quickmane because of his blind spot, something he knew because of Feather. Feather only met the rogues because of Nothing, Quickmane had a blindside because of Nothing. Indirectly, Feather was supposed to to die because of Nothing’s action, and he would’ve died, if not for Nothing. Nothing started the path to breaking the cycle by saving Feather.
I know Hover is probably Karabi, and Feather or Fire are Lite, but I think it would be a better twist for Hover to be Lite. Plus the fact that the lion who was punished because he loved Kyoga too much to be Nothing’s brother makes me really uncomfortable
Exactly, plus the creators of my pride have expressed their dislike towards children becoming villians, wich will most likely happen If feather is lite.
I made a theory, around a year ago that even if Fire isn't Lite's reincarnation, there's something off about the mark that was given to him. If you notice, ever since he got that mark he's become more and more selfish which is the complete opposite of how he was before he got that mark.
Fire is Lite. Do you get what I'm saying? Plus Nothing said about pride law she said she couldn't believe she didn't see it for what it was before. Then she turns and narrows her eyes at Fire saying she couldn't believe she didn't see him for what he was before. That's why I believe it's him.
Makes sense
In this life, I think fire is lite, fire has always loved his sister like lite loved Kioga, until fire gets mad and try’s to kill feather, and expects his sister to still help him, just like lite killed kerobei, lite still expected Kioga to like or love him
OF COURSE IT'S FRICKING FIRE HAVE YOU *SEEN* EPISODE TEN
@Rose Hinton its fire dude
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Definitely Fire. Seeing how Nothing reacted, and he did, it HAS to be.
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I can’t help but see the similarities in their names as fire give gives way to light
I seriously hope it’s fire if it’s feather I will cry so hard
I think it’s Fire, because when Nothing was going to miss Hover’s ceramony Fire said, “who’s Hover?” After Nothing left. And when Fire was going to kill Nothing. Ghost stoped him. As if Nothing was supposed to kill Fire. :0
I think Light is Feather because Rain said Light will always have a connection to Kyoga. It is shown that Feather really likes Nothing in spite what she did to is father. In all account Father should hate Nothing, but fore some reason he doesn’t. It’s like he is destined to love Nothing.
I mean its a good theory but i think fire being lite is more logical.
In the first episode of my pride nothing says "asra may take me but you will never win" to quick mane later in in rains episode kyoga says"asra may take me but you will never win" its the same praise I think it gives you a hint of who lite actually is
with all the plot twists im starting to think its skruffy qwq
I actually had the same theory!! I’m glad someone else thinks the same thing!! :)
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Feather did say he trained with one of his older sisters ( I forgot their names I haven't watched the series in ages) , so that's why fire thought feather was dead ( in episode 4 )
Silent stalk I think
I don’t feel like it would be either of Nothing’s brothers because Light had romantic feelings for Kiyoga. I believe it’s somebody that we haven’t met yet. (Possibly Golden, who should appear later in the show.)
Actually, I was thinking the same. And unfortunately Feather isn't related to Nothing. I would like it to be either as another lion we haven't met yet or proud mane.
I think I remember rain saying that the shifting place will move if lite gets close to it in his lives so when feather goes to follow nothing the shifting place moves
I really feel like it's either Feather or Fire. Since the last 2 episodes Fire's actions makes me question if Fire is Lite. I'm beginning to think so, but Feather being Lite also makes sense. Lite has been through countless life times, where he has always died by Kyoga each time, and suffered in his lives as well. As Azra did say he would suffer in each life too. Feather realizing pride law is unfair, a law in which Lite made, makes it almost seem like he regrets the laws he Lite himself has made.
Feather might be Lite because of how Feather hates pride law. It could be his spirit changing and having regrets. Even if he doesn't have a full memory of his past lives.
Rain would want to kill Feather/Lite (the falling tree branch and her ultimatum to Nothing) so Nothing would not be the one killing him, thus ending the cycle.
Feather is also naturally good at tracking and strategizing, which are skills Lite needed. He tracked Kyoga and Karabi down and he lead a pride kingdom army into war. Those might have carried over through the past lives.
1. In the scene where Nothing walks off with Ghost and Fire calls her back, she says “I can’t believe I didn’t see you for who you are” and I think this is referring to her maybe figuring that maybe Fire is Lite
2. We’ve all assumed that Karabi was Hover, but it can be possible that Feather is Karabi, it might be a stretch but you don’t really have to be the same gender as the life before you
3. Karabi doesn’t even need another life in a present time, the curse was put on Lite to always be killed by Kyoga, but never does that include Karabi
Tribble said in the livestream recap of season 1 that feather is nothing’s cousin and that they do not want to have a in family love relationship between them
@@Changingtesting i mean, it maybe doesn't have to be a romantic relationship, but a familiar or platonic relationship as well. as they stated before in the show that you can love friends and family.
but again, karabi is not important in the curse as she was not the one who got cursed, so she wouldn't need to be reborned.
I have a theory of my own.
Asura had a mate.
He died but, how do we know she wasn't pregnant with his cubs at the time.
That's were I think Ghost comes in.
I think Ghost has these powers because he's a dependent of the youngest sister.
Also...
I really Really REALLY,
don't want want Light to be Feather.
He has potential & Fire is the one who has alot to make right.
Cant be feather, feather said he wanted to change pride law i don’t know why people think he is lite now
Okay, I don't mean to offend, but I don't like this argument. Feather didn't hate Pride Law until it affected him. It was a nurture situation rather than a nature one.
Just because someone is Lite's reincarnation, doesn't automatically mean they'll become a villian or won't change. While it seems likely that Fire is Lite, there's still a chance it could be Feather.
I think its Fire because of the first episode, where Sharpetounge said "If it was the will of the Three Sisters for them to die, they would already be dead. If you harm these cubs you'll earn the ire of the Goddesses themselves." [...] "I see things you cannot. I know."
I think it’s feather. Mostly because he tells Nothing he loves her when they are on the pride-less stretch together, But Nothing doesn’t respond that she loves him at first. Kind of hinting to the relationship their past reincarnations had.
I think it makes sense that Fire or a new lion could be Lite
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Amazing video! I love the editing, very smooth transitions!
What if it’s ghost? Just here me out, ghost is very odd and mysterious. No one knows much about him and protected nothing from fire. And if it isn’t ghost I do believe it will be fire.
spoiler warning ig? this entire vid is a spoiler so idk
personally I think it's fire. I believe (like alot of people) that ghost is a collection of the spirits asra hasn't been collecting. they refer to themselves in third person and as we. and the scene where tangle speaks through ghost could also be evidence.
@@spectrbones I may have forgotten that while making this comment.
(Damn, why do I have a terrible memory?!)
Technically, the storm kingdom god TOLD Nothing to leave Feather to die basically..
it's Feather, just pay attention to what Asra said, all the signs point to Feather
Feather is very similar to Lite, and he doesn't die from Fire's bite, and this bite was definitely not a weak bite to keep him alive, this happens because the one who should kill Feather is Nothing and not Fire, and Feather also has a passion for Nothing, and probably when Feather grows up and Nothing and Hover meet again we will have a fight between these three
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I think its fire cause Feather wants to Fix things like nothing does. Fire seems to be willing to do anything thats in his Favor.
I feel like it's either fire or feather. For now, i think 60% fire, and 40% feather. Before episodes 9 and 10, it was the opposite for me. Plus, i saw tribble hearting all the comments that said fire was lite, and yet at the same time she showed feather after sunce had appeared in the pride lore video. I feel like she's either trying to confuse us, or one of the two options prove to be right. Usually, all the hearted comments end up being canon, like the "fearleap has a crush on hover" ones. Tribble hearted all the comments that stated that farleap had a crush on hover; She later on confirmed on discord that farleap is indeed lesbian. So yeah. I feel like fire is lite. But why would she keep feather alive..? Hm. I don't know. I'm really confused tbh
She might be keeping characters linked to goddesses alive, as we see in the Pride Lore:Goddesses video we see Hover linked to Kansu, she’s alive, Nothing linked to Azara, alive, and Feather linked to Sunce, who’s also alive
@@ShadowSailor Oooooo
I always thought it was Fire when we finished My Pride, but It could be a lion we havn't seen yet.
I believe fire is lite, honestly they have similar personalities and voices
Maybe but I think u should just wait for the next episodes
Really weird thing I noticed, but the relationship between Kyoga and Light started out much the same as nothing and fires now. Kyoga went from being “In love“ with light to hating him for killing Karabi, much like how nothing went from admiring or loving her brother to hating him for what he’s become. Almost like Light was hiding within fire until then.
sometimes Tangled comes to mind for always being so caring towards Nothing. Also in episode 10 he knew about everything that happened to Nothing and he knew her motives
At first when I heard that Lite had a reincarnated life like Nothing's old self I had immediately thought Lite's reincarnation was QuickMane but QuickMane died so after episode 10 I belive Lite is truly Fire
In my opinion, it's Feather. 1. He really seems to love Nothing, and maybe even in a romantic way. Fire maybe loved Nothing, but not nearly as much as Feather. 2. Feather wants to be with Nothing and no one else because Feather didn't want to be with Fire or any other pride. He used to be buddies with Fire but when sees him again, he doesn't seem to care. 3.Feather seems to look more like Lite and also has suffered like Lite. His father and sisters are dead and he won't see his mother any time soon. While Fire did kill Tangle, he didn't know him as well as Feather did with his family. 4. Feather also said that he wanted to kill Proudmane. 5. I think it has all been leading up to this and Fire is just an example of what pride law can do to lions.
I don't really think that Feather is Lite, because I feel like, he loves Nothing like a sister or dearest friend, but maybe because he kinda survived Nothings disappearance could fill him with anger and betrayal, yet still he could love her as a friend.
But, I wanted to talk about Fire, because I think he is Lite. First of all his name, it sounds pretty similarly to light, and you can light things on fire.
Which can be absolutely wrong and crazy idea or it could be foreshadowing.
Another reason why I think Fire is Lite is because, at the start of the series/season 1, Sharp Tongue was telling sort of origin the lions, and Fire interrupted her telling her that she's wrong, which could mean he actually is the reincarnation of Lite and he knows his origin well.
And I think that (Nothing) Kyoga could at some point find unaliving Lite, but she wouldn't be couse of his unaliving, and she could forgive Lite, and the curse cycle will be finally broken.
(If there are any grammar mistakes I'm sorry for bleeding your eyes out, but English is not my first language. :DD)
I feel its Fire because of the whole "I had to kill them-" with Lite"I had to strike first shes crazy" and with Fire killing Tangle bevause he didnt think Tangle would share. While Feather is really against the idea of killing other lions at current he doesnt seem like the type of lion to kill a lioness with a petty motivation- despite not even being fully grown he spoke to Nothing on why he wanted to leave talking it out instead- but that's just my opinion
I think it's Fire. That's because trough-out the series, Nothing and Feather get a more of a brother-sister realationship, like Fire and Nothing had it back at the pride
I think its fire, and if not him then a lion we haven't met yet! AWESOME VIDEO!
I agree with about everything mentioned in this video. If you pay close attention to the two scenes that are shown at 6:48, both Fire and Lite's voices are very similar. You can tell that, in episode 8 whenever we were viewing what happened between Kyoga, Lite, and Karabi, Kyoga's voice is very similar to Nothing's, and we later find out that Nothing is in fact a reincarnation of Kyoga. I'm guessing that reincarnations will be very similar to what they were in their previous life (I don't believe in reincarnation crap), and maybe even have the same voices, and that might explain why Fire and Lite have very similar voices.
I also have no doubt that it is not Feather, since, stating the obvious, Lite was the lion to create pride law, and in one of the clips shown, Feather explains to Nothing how much he hates pride law and wants to get rid of it whenever he's older. Second of all, I think the creator mentioned they did not like it whenever a younger character grows to be a villain.
IM not all 100% on this but what if spark survived quickmane when nothing and her pride was attacked. Now spark is killing everyone in his path like lite to find nothing bc he loves her more since she was the one that attacked quickmane after he "died". I'm not fully on this track I'm more on the side that lite is fire but this is still a possibility. It would be a huge twist if it really ends up happening🫢🫢
Yeah, it makes sense that Fire would be Lite. Even if Feather was Lite, Nothing still wouldn't kill him.
I'm all on it being Feather. I think the parallels placed in Fire's story are diversions, ways to convince Nothing to believe it's Fire and make it that much more difficult when she realizes after returning that Feather is the one who has developed into the illogical villain of her story.
It has to be Fire!
Lite made Pride law, while Fire show's that he respects Pride Law. In a few episodes they show very similar arguments, when Lite said: "Im talking to you!" and Fire says "Dont ignore me!" Both said in a similar tone. Not to mention Lite says "I had to strike first!" and Fire killed Tangle, because he was hungry.
Its clear Nothing is Kyoga. When Lite kills Karabi Kyoga does nothing, and when Fire "kills" Feather, Nothing does- well, nothing.
Fire and Lite both appear to have a short fuse aswell. But, thats just me.
Like some people said, Feather has potential for becoming a villian, and its obvious from the start Lite is a villian. But, Fire and Lite seem to have more similarities.
I love this theory! Good job on this!
A bit late commenting on this, but amidst all this speculation, I'd like to throw my two cents in. So many people think Feather could be Lite, while *I* believe it's either Fire or some lion we have yet to even meet. I feel that it is completely *impossible* for Feather to be Lite, due to one reason and one reason only.
Feather is YOUNGER than Nothing.
The way Asra's curse is apparently set up, is that Lite and Kyoga will be reincarnated into new lives in a seemingly endless cycle. Kyoga's reincarnations will be the death of Lite's reincarnations in every single life he is reborn into. From what I've seen of reincarnation, it seems that as soon as a soul leaves the body of one who dies, it enters someone new at the moment of their birth, so I am going with that logic. So, Nothing, being the current incarnation of Kyoga, would have to have killed whomever Lite was *before* Feather was even born, in order for Feather to inherit the soul of Lite.
And have we seen Nothing ever kill another lion?
No. No, we have not. Nothing has never killed anyone, to my knowledge. I believe that whomever Lite is now would have to be at least equal in age to Nothing, or older than her. Say Kyoga's previous incarnation just before Nothing's turn killed Lite at some point, then went on to live a full and happy life. Lite's soul would have been reincarnated into someone new at the moment he died, and his new self would grow up. Kyoga's previous incarnation would have eventually grown old and died, prompting her reincarnation into Nothing. There is also the possibility that in their most previous lives, Kyoga would have killed Lite, but died in the process, so they both died at the same time. And if *that* happened, they'd pretty much be the same age as each other. And I know one lion that fits the bill perfectly. So, I'm thinking it's Fire.
Theory: Fire loves Nothing, but when the time came, he instantly betrayed her and fought her like she wanted. I know that Fire would not do that, but what if it was an instinct because he is lite? An instinct would have kicked in, and told Fire “kill her”, to the point he’d attack her, and like you said, it’s not like him when he snapped, and instincts All came up, and he tried killing her because instincts said so, instincts from, him, Lite.
I think lite is fire cause they both have the same voice and they act the same
Okay buy someone tell me why Nothing gets frozen when fire goes to k!11 feather on one scene
I’ve seen all and it’s sad they haven’t don’t another episode in a year
Fire and Lite's VA's also sound very similar. I will look into it and see if they are voiced by the same person.
Heres my theory: I think Lite is Quick mane since when nothing scratches his eye she says: Azra May take me but you will never win.
And she said the same thing while being kayoga. But the thing is in episode 8 while Rain was showing nothing her past life story at the end she said: You have to kill Lite in whatever life he is now.
And hearing that and knowing that Quick mane is dead then...
Nothing might need to wait and find Lite in his another life and might need to kill him while hes a cub.
Heres another theory why I think Lite is Quick mane.
In epsidoe 8 Kayoga said that lite will be cursed forever (Or something) and when Quick mane killed star mane and spark. And since they were close to nothing,
Quickmane lost his eye. And when he tried to hurt nothing again(į dont remember which episode was it) He got killed by proud mane.
BUT theres a catch. Only Quickmane got punished by nothing and no one else which leads to a theory that Quickmane might be lite.
After watching my pride i think i know who light is... its Proud Mane. Think about it! He said that pride law forbids relationships with huntresses, and how they belong to their manes. As well as when hover told proud that she loved nothing proud said that he could technically kill her because it's a crime thats punishable by death. He's very stuck on where pride law is the Mane takes full control of the lioness. I belive Light in this life time is Proud mane...
I feel like it’s either
A. Proud, or
B. Fire, then again it may be
C. Ghost, or
D. A random lion/lioness.
Well ghost stopped nothing from killing fire most likely because if they continued she would kill him, and the cycle would just go on and on and on once again.
I think it is Proudmane he was the only lion that cared about the law that says “ lionesses belong to their manes”. Then Hunt chief says “ that law is rarely followed”. So maybe it could be Proudmane.
It's definetely Fire!
The lite reancarnation is fire
Haven’t finished the video yet, but I belive it’s fire, because when we see lite grow up, he’s kind and caring, but he is soon corrupted by jealousy as an adult, while fire follows the same path, becoming more resentful with age, causing both lite and fire to kill out of this (“kill” in fires case)
There's also a clever sneaky thing they snuck in. A blink and you'll miss it type detail.
Cansu said that Sunce's rage destroyed the Emerald Valley... By _fire_
_Fire_ destroyed the Emerald Valley.
Fire has the dang same voice as lite! If not way too simular!
Honestly after watching the origin/story episode just now after listening to everything you just said, I think I'm leaning towards Feather being Light. Primarily because of the foreshadowing they've already given us with how their old and current selves look similar (Nothing's general pelt pattern and coloring, Hover's crescents under her eye, and then Feather's hair and pelt primarily match up to Light) but honestly I'm not sure
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I 100% think Fire is Lite but the thing is have you noticed how similar Lite and Feather look or is that just me.
Also what if another character comes in and they're Lite. You never know.
i think it’s fire because of his dialogue in episode 10 when he was fighting nothing