Fire Emblem Engage | Three More Even Weirder Maddening Builds | Titanium Guides
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this episode, Alfred, Lapis and Celine are our chosen buildees!
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Thief Alfred's colors look pretty clean, funny thing with Lapis kinda like what you did with Kagetsu I made her an armored knight into great knight because in that class she reminded me of Walhart and she did surprisingly well. I also agree that Gentle Flower comes in clutch alot
Honestly in theory thief Alfred seems like a VERY cool concept. One of the big limitations in engage is how competitive master seals are early game. It really invalidates a lot of the early game characters because you can only really choose like 2 (plus Alear) that can be master sealed in a reasonable time. Going thief means you can get promoted class base stats without the need for him to take up a master seal. Thief growths definitely compliment his really well and the base stats really fix his speed problem nicely to let his solid growths shine. Like you mentioned daggers work well with his horrible build too. 10/10 going to try this.
If you like Thief Alfred, might i recommend Halberdier Alfred? He gets pincer early thanks to being an early unit and pincer makes it so that you dont need to give him your Lyn emblem since he gets auto-followups. He gets access to lance power 2/3 super early to help with damage and his early game. And his growths are actually exceptional (especially in dex)
He pairs best with Sigurd to help with positioning for pincer attacks, strong overrides, momentum bonus damage and a bonus to bld, dex and def, all of which Alfred likes.
Nothing is weird about making lapis a wryven knight. It's probably her best class as is for most characters
What is so good about wyvern knights, from what I have seen they suck
Their mobility makes them versatile, and they have good stats.
@@TitaniumLegman they are so frail and can't dodge at all
@@JakeMarley-k6g What are you comparing them to? Overall, I would say they are the 3rd most sturdy promoted class, behind the general and great knight
3rd in defense for promoted classes, for both class base and class growth - behind general and great knight
5th in HP base- behind general, great knight, berserker, and warrior.
4th in HP growth - behind general, berserker, and warrior.
Of course they have to worry about bows, when most other classes dont, but if you have a frail wyvern, then that unit would be frail in every class. The problem would be the unit, not the class.
@@LAaronB10 I was using Ivy and the in-game computers as an example, I was also using griffins as an example too. That was before I got Rosado and used my first wyvern knight. He ended up being really good. I was also playing on easy mode. Wyverns are really bad on easy. I was also confused why people said Chloe was good. She was my first unit to die on easy and every time I used her she just died, now she carries my team on hard
My pasta salad brain desires Berserker Lapis, Berserker Alfred, and Berserker Celine, but these builds are good too
Glad to see you take my advice, I am curious if youd consider replacing Dual assist with Book of worlds 👀
I mean yeah you lose 5 range, but locking down any foe sounds like a good trade, I also love Celine’s personal so i keept her really close to everyone all the time, a 3-10 range weapon sounds like it does the exact same thing I did for Lucina/Celine (tho if you put Celine on an ice tile for that +2 range then I get ya 👀)
I’m still in shock my Thief Alfred was seen, holy pog
If you are taking any suggestions for builds, One I really enjoyed was Wolf Knight (axe) Panette with The 3 houses ring. *basically the same as any other wrath/vantage build, but you gain a lot from the 3 houses ring with it and fantastic growths (even more so when you use starsphere)
For DLC characters, if you role Zelestia with Lyn. She is one of the few S rank mage units that has enough speed to double majority of enemies in the game. (once you get Nova you will quad with Alacrity from lyn, or quad with Bravesword use. It is really fun. (and your clones gain the extra avoid too for flying bonus which is really fun to bait enemies with. Even more so if you have avoid learned from marth )
Or Zelestia with Hector, using Swords exclusively except for Thoron. With Sword Power, your soulblade hits will do some insane damage. But with Hector while engaged, you can essentially nosferatu tank with the Rune Sword on her. Another fun one I tried.
DLC class wise, I really enjoyed the 1 shot Mage Cannon build. With Chloe you gain true damage, add keen insight to gain even more damage on effective hits (I tested does with with mage cannons) and about mid point of the game you will have access to majority of cannons that have effective damage. With her personal skill and the +7 damage from keeninsight plus, you have 9 true damage, on top of the effective damage it would normally do. Add in Divinepulse+ to help with hit rate and you have a killer mage cannon. (second skill and emblem up to you)
Nice video overall. Looking forward to seeing what all you come up with for future builds.
I;m doing something similar for Louis with your Alfread build. My idea was on maddening enemies won't attack Louis because his def is so high, and they also won't attack theives because their avoid is so high. Making Louis a theif will lower his def so they still attack him but no where near enough to kill him, while keeping his avoid low enough so they still attack him but will likely miss. It's worked out pretty well so far.
Alfred Lance Wolf Knight is no joke either! Don’t sleep on this build!
lapis served me well going sword fighter > hero > warrior. Hero utility and axe access tides her over for a while and inflates her strength and speed, and warrior gives longbow access
I’ve also been using WK lapis as well on my first maddening run, it’s been great and I think it’s definitely one of her best options. Plus the crimson armor is 👌
am i going to build thief alfred? omg that looks so fun and he actually looks so cute in the yello outfit lol
These are quite interesting build ideas, and I commend you for doing them. Still lamenting how much the game screws Lapis’ potential as a General, as I love the imagery in her as a red-clad sword/armour unit (the caps some classes have on certain stats are just aggravating), but this is absolutely a creative alternative path to either her default path or the paladin you tried out the first run. Really nice.
On Céline, the part of me that likes to keep aspects of a unit’s “canon” intact has really been throwing around something like Mage Knight in my head; she’d keep her swords and magic but also be mounted. Or something… on a similar train of thought, the fact that Framme and Clanne are the closest to the Cain/Abel duo but only the latter can default into mounted saddens me; I wonder how viable the former could be as say, a Royal Knight as it would at least let her keep her healing if not her fisticuffs no?
Meh, talking out my ass I admit. But although my personal interest in the game has slumped I still ponder the stuff that IS fun, and I want to *engage* with the community some more again.
Oho, it's interesting that you bring up that point about Clanne and Framme... 👀
@@TitaniumLegmanmage knight duo clanne/framme 👀
All those names. Aka the mad queen build. Berserker also works real well
Me: hey look!! It’s thief Alfred in the picture! That’s pretty cool
Me at 8:35 : WAIT (+2 str) THATS ME!! HOLY DIVINE DRAGON!! I feel so seen 🤧
That Celine build sounds crazy fun!
It really is. The damage racks up quite fast.
Liking this, gives me new ideas to go with!
Me I'm not to much of a fan putting characters into classes that don't fit their character! Been that way since the concept of doing so cropped up in Three Houses (can't use Fates much for this). The Royal Siblings, Veyle and Alear stay in their base classes and promotions and I play them as such! But that's what makes EVERYONE ELSE so fun to use because I have ALOT more freedom with them!
Like with Vandar! I only see Great Knight as an Alternative largely because the Jagans of the series have been Paladin or Great Knight! But the twins, I base their classes off of how they FEEL to me! Clanne for example has the game TRYING to nudge you into his final class in his INTIAL Class be Mage Knight with how his Magic growth is GIMPED compared to his strenght growth to try and encourage you into a magic class that also uses melee weapons (should have made MORE Magic using CLASSES in this game Intelligent Systems! Frankly Clanne is right up there with ODIN from Fates, and that is NOT a good thing as I only got Odin to be VERY useful by putting him in Robin from Awakening's class to get the best of BOTH his magic AND physical strength and only AFTER going Samurai-Swordmaster to make his time as Grandmaster more easier) and Mage Knight would make sense with him being Vander's squire! Same applies to Framme but in her case I go with Royal Knight! Yeah her BLD means her Lances ARE weighing her down, but her Magic means the Flame Lance is getting USAGE as I learned after a previous run with Mauvier! Seriously Mauvier BEFORE and AFTER he joins showed me ALOT of mechanics I missed, ESPECIALLY with the Micaiah ring and WARP/RESCUE/REWARP Staves that I found a GAMEBREAKER strategy with them BY ACCIDENT having it used AGAINST ME by him LOL. And I didn't think much of the Flame Lance till I saw him using it as he did! You have to WORK AROUND crappy shit to get the best out of them! (I look at the Swordmaster especially in this game as a Speedster that has a HIGH rate to dodge, hit back and DOUBLE, at least you're assured THIS MUCH from the class! Astra and Criticals did NOT make this class nor is the Lack of Astra/lowering of crits make them useless! Lapis is a speed queen and Kagetsu is discount Ryoma! And yes Beserker's losing their CRIT monster status for SMASH+ DOES suck, but they still HIT HARD and Panette is BUILD around still being a CRIT monster so there's that!) Plus it's also fitting in a way that the Twins who are BOTH Vander's Squires are horse mounted though unlike him they still have access to Magic in a sense.
Jean never really goes into Classes that DON'T show his marks of his character which is being a Healer! So I only see him in Martial Master, High Priest, Royal Knight, Griffin Knight and Enchanter which can STILL feel like a profession he'd take despite losing Staves (which giving him MICAIAH fixes), Lapis can be a Swordmaster or Hero, but nothing is stopping her being a Sword Paladin, Halberdier (my favorite because of her reminding me of my FAVORITE character in the series, Nephenee!), Wyvern Knight or Griffin Knight! It's fitting with her characterization making her someone who ADJUSTES to any situation because of her SUPER commoner background (I say SUPER in that she came from a VERY POOR background). Interestingly I tend to keep only ONE of the Fell Dragon Twins in the Fell Child class as I ALWAYS use them once Hortensia joins (that's when I do the LAST Xenologue stage) and the other I put into a class that works for them! Like Nel does pretty well as a Halberdier (and gets to keep her Lances) and Rafal makes a good Warrior (I just have a GRUDGE on Berserker's outfit like I do Hero Classes Outfit! How the hell does Goldmary have a GREAT Hero Outfit and everyone else in that class has that STUPID CAPE design! It reminds me of how Camilla is the only one that looks GOOD in the Malig Knight class because it uses her default outfit, yet everyone else wears that CRAPPY outfit the Malig Knight is suppose to wear! Just not RIGHT!)
Some are TRAPPED in classes though like because of my COMPLAINT about lack of MAGIC classes in this entry, those like Citrinne are STUCK in Sage class, though she CAN go High Priest. Sword Mage Knight is only great if you never plan to use physical weapons at all other then the Levin Sword (Flame Lance is WAY to heavy for her PATHETICALLY low Build) but she's STUCK in Magic Classes. But hey, Classes are near less important to EMBLEM RINGS/BRACELETS! Only really important for the build you're going for (as you have to incorprate the Emblem they'll be using) and it only applies in Runs where you WON'T use the EMBLEM RINGS/BRACELETS in a game where everything is PUSHING you to use them (hence why Growths are as low as they are, they're COUNTING on you using the Rings/Bracelets to mitigate the negative! Yet so many WHINE like the game should have cathered to NOT using it's main gimmick! Challenge runs are called that for a reason! Hell they never expect you to make Constance, Hapi or Lysithea GREAT KNIGHTS, but you can still DO IT without them stopping you! I swear some people hav their heads too far up their asscheeks to consider anything outside their viewpoint!
I'm going to check some of these out after I get back into Engage (beat it 8 times since I got it in Jan when it first came out, currently playing Unicorn Overlord after 100% Tears of the Kingdom! 6 were Hard mode with Seven and Eight being Maddening Mode which I considered this where they TRULY mastered that setting at LAST! It's not about making enemy STAT MONSTERS/HP SPONGES! It's about making them MORE DANGEROUS to use your head more! Like giving them unique skills, weakening or cutting off vulnerabilities so you can't exploit easily, and making them SMARTER along with CUTTING EXP gains so you can't quickly grow too fast and overlevel is a GOOD balance in my opinion...still dumb you have to beat it to CHOSE Fixed or Random Growths, but it is what it is! Three Houses Maddening was BULLSHIT that lost it's appeal to a POINT at times, but was still an OKAY difficulty at least. But Engage MADE maddening appealing for me as I normally IGNORE Lunatic/Maniac/HARD BEFORE POR modes in the series beforehand)
I got one for Diamant that I've had fun with. I call it 'Break King Diamant'. Successor as his class of choice. Break Defense from Marth, Sword power from Roy and his emblem of choice Ike. Diamant has pretty average states all around and can double most enemies but having him triple 2 out of the 3 weapon triangle is just as fun. Ike gives him axe power to go with his axes, wrath for extra crits and resolve for tankyness. His main weapons of choice should be crit, whether by base like the killer weapons or from engraves. A few secret book when he reaches cap on his dex helps with sol procs too.
You didn’t get to the content until 1:30! Just from one RUclipsr, to another, I highly recommend getting straight into the topic of the video, you’ll definitely see better performance!! :)
I needed to give people an update since my schedule was in disarray due to my mother's health. I appreciate the advice, but this was an outstanding situation.
If you're looking for more flier options, Griffin Knight (sword) Citrinne is fun. On hard you just slap on a levin sword and she's good to go - no emblems required. Not sure how the maddening benchmarks might change that, but it's definitely worth looking into.
Previous games thieves were always squishy, but in engage they have a 20%Def growth, and as daggers are rarely broken by enemies making them oddly tanky. Alfred and Rafal are probably the best picks.
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Isn't WK Lapis literally her best class?
WK is so strong in this game and she can reclass into it almost immediately because you haven't lost all your rings yet.
I think the main reason Lapis is slept on is because Chloe already does her job and is more fed at this point, so you'd only actually use Lapis if you intend to use her for the rest of the game. Otherwise, you can just wait for Kagetsu.
Funnily enough in my planning for my next play through I'm actually gonna use both. Lapis as my flier and Chloè as a martial master to shake things up
Why sword agility instead of regular avoid+? Especially on a class that can use a non-sword weapon. It is the same amount of avoid without crit penalty or weapon requirement. You get both skills on Marth. Is it just because it is 500sp less?
Try mage cannoner boucheron with lucina emblem and inherit reprisal + with divine pulse+ enjoy the oneshot
Ayy it’s the hero soren build lmao
Yessssss ! 💪🏻💪🏻
First, video 5 of asking for control playthrough 💙
"Ally air"? Who?
do you mean Alear?
I mean what I said.
Wyvern Lapis isn't even weird, it's legit a great build.
the celine build is insane, but I'd simply just do it with a worse unit than her tbh
Ah, but I like doing it with Celine since it leaves her in a position for her personal skill to be active a lot.
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