Fire Emblem Engage | Three MADDENING Builds for Three Winds | Titanium Guides
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Builds for Gregoy, Zelestia and Madeline.
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Here is my versions of them I keep them as is though
Zelestia
Melusine
Emblem
Chrom
Str +3 Dex +5 Spd +4
Skills
Spd/Dex +5
Spd/Res +5
Hp: 75
Bld: 12
Str: 40 (+3) 43
Mag: 40
Dex: 33 (+10) 43
Spd: 37 (+14) 51
Def: 34
Res: 37 (+5) 42
Lck: 24
Wepons
Silver Blade +5 Bonds Engraving
Mt: 31 Wt: 10 Hit: 90 Avo: 20 Crit: 0 Ddg: 20
Excalibur
Bolganone
Engrave Weapons
Levin Sword
Thoron
Falchion
Gregory
Sage
Emblem
Byleth
Mag +3 Spd +3 Lck +12
Skills
Str/Def +5
Spd/Dex +5
Hp: 43
Bld: 11
Str: 24 (+5) 29
Mag: 51 (+3) 54
Dex: 32 (+5) 37
Spd: 28 (+8) 36
Def: 20 (+5) 25
Res: 47
Lck: 32 (+12) 44
Combat stats
Mag Atk: 64
Hit: 201
Avo: 84
Crit: 36
Ddg: 74
Nova +5 Academy Engraving
Mt: 10 Wt: 16 Hit: 115 Avo: 10 Crit: 20 Ddg: 30 Rng: 1-2 + 3-4
Thyrsus Staff wielded by Emblem Byleth Grants magic range +2 May Halve damage if carried
Madeline
General
Emblem Hector
Bld +3 Str +4 Def +5
Skills
Mag/Res +5
Spd/Res +5
Hp: 86
Bld: 25 (+3) 28
Str: 50 (+4) 54
Mag: 16 (+5) 21
Dex: 37
Spd: 15 (+5) 20
Def: 58 (+5) 63
Res: 15 (+10) 25
Lck: 25
Weapon
Ukonvasara +5 Strength Engraving
Mt: 46 Wt: 27 Hit: 80 Avo: -30 Crit: 10 Ddg: -30
I gotta respect the Silver Blade play on Zelestia, that's awesome. This is also an incredibly thorough writeup showing how to max out these characters in their base classes. It's a great call on Thyrssus with Greg as well, I have very rarely utilized it myself.
@@TitaniumLegman Glad you like it ^^ Also Someone said Ike on Madeline is good to
@@DARKMalice9000 yeah, Madeline Ike is my go to atm, we'll see how I can make it work for her.
@@TitaniumLegman Okay ^^
Makes no sense to run Ukonvasara on a Hector character. Hector lets your General double. Ukonvasara however cannot double. So you have a weapon working against your best passive.
Groundswell works on every modified terrain type, not just the negatives.
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i loved using zelestia! i was almost done with my playthrough when i got her, so i grinded her up and she was super helpful with micaiah
She's definitely a high value include, for sure.
I like Madeline as a Great Knight as well. The skills I'm running her with are Gentility and Quick Riposte. She is a monster on enemy phase.
I did the same with Aclaraty instead, and gave her Edelgard
With Zelestia, I also just went with Melusine, but i have Micaiah on her to have her as a pure versatility unit who can do magical, physical and can use staffs. Her damage is okay, but nothing out of the ordinary, having Micaiah on a more mobile unit through has proven useful.
For Gregory, I didn't reclass him and just kept him in his base class because 80% MAG - I don't say no. With Celica, I increased his offensive further. However, the other thing I did, and that is the complete opposite of your build. I gave him the Micaiah Engrave on a Bolagone, Avoid +20 from Emblem Marth and Tome Precision from Celica. One of these skills can be inherited instantly thanks to his 2000SP. And that's when he really took off as Dodge tank. His Avoid is just crazy high and his damage output is honestly disgustingly high. He can solo entire maps lime this, the only danger being chain attacks.
With Madeline, I'fe honestly leaned into the all or nothing principle and just have her as a unit that can basicly kill egerything once she hits. But I've got to say, out of the 3, she is definitively the one with the least potential, because she's really the one where solving her issues is the hardest and where it actually severely impacts her (what worth has the highest STR if you can't hit if your life depended on it?). And in addition to that, she's also incredibly similar to Louis to the point where her base stats are actually the same as his average stats at internal level 20 with some minor alterations. And if you're not going for having insanely broken units in the early game she'll also come at a point where Generals all start to fall off.
Swiss army knife Zelestia could definitely be a great tool in the arsenal, I like that. As for dodge tank Greg...not what I ever would have expected to see, but I like the sound of it! Something about the scardey cat dancing around attacks and throwing fire everywhere, that's fun. And yes, Madeline definitely faces stiff competition from Louis, for sure.
I wonder how Zelestia would do with Eirika and Brave Sword? She seems to have pretty decent Build and Speed so it’s fairly likely she can quad with it for the tons of true damage Eirika provides. She benefits from the +3 magic at Bond Rank 14 or higher, and when engaged she gets Eclipse Brace + to turn all her weapons into Nosferatu in terms of HP recovery, so she can use tomes to effectively 1-2 range on enemy phase
I'm pretty sure Eclipse Brace only works on player phase, so she can't Nosferatu tank with it. Soren or Micaiah is who you'd want if you are trying to do that.
@@UnlimitedMrX oh yeah of course it is lmao
Only on Chapter 21 with my first playthrough using them, Maddening, picked them up at Chaptedd 9.
I put Lyn on Zelestia. The Speedtaker really helps with being able to double with heavy tomes, and the bows allow us to crush enemy griffin knights. Canter+ allows her to put herself in safety. No second skill atm.
I put Soren on Gregory (Sage.) He serves several roles. He can debuff with any tome, snipe with Bolting, Assign Decoy when necessary, you know, typical Soren stuff. What makes him so good is the combination of his Personal, Dodge +20, and Tome Precision 5. He can be a front line healer or mage without worrying about dying. It's actually kind of nutty.
I put Hector on Madeline (GK) because of course I did. Gave her the Revanche with Lyn Engraving so she rarely misses and has a natural crit of 50. Tomahawk with Eirika Engraving again for the hit and Rally Spectrum+ so I can have an Enemy Phase unit who can go in and buff a few blokes. Actually had been a monster the whole time.
Frontline Sage Greg does sound like a hell of a fun time. Soren belongs to me Sage Jade build atm, but future runs will def see some Soren!Greg time for sure.
Revanche on Madeline is def a solid idea as well, I appreciate it!
My Madeline is doing great as an Halbardier. Emblem Hector. And for inherit: Divine pulse+ and Pair up.
She hits like a truck and can double everyone all the time thx to Hector and being an Halbardier. "Divine pulse+" helps with her accuracy problems (using lances helps to that too) and "Pair up" keeps her healthy so she can keep doubling with Hector.
Oh my god I completely forgot about Divine Pulse. That's an incredible idea.
Gregory on Sage was my MVP on so many maps, he easily had 8~10 more MAG than the next most powerful magic unit. I gave him an engraved Thoron, an engraved Excalibur (not Bolganone, too heavy, he doesn't even need it), Byleth for +2 range, and patched up his speed, he was one-rounding most enemies. He also naturally has an A rank in staves, he's absolutely busted.
Yeah, Greg is definitely a strong contender. There's a number of builds I'd like to try with him.
I personally have been putting madeline in the sniper class for a bit to fix her horrible dex at first and she ended up staying in that class permanently. She ended up being a one shot monster with a ike engraved brave bow, wind god, heavy attack and lunar brace
Griffin Greg seems pretty neat I've not used Griffin knights in this game at all since I usually reclass Chloe to Martial Master so that she can kill basically everything so it's cool to see one in use.
With Madeline I did basically the same thing you did except I gave a forged steel great axe with Erika's engraving, fixes a lot of her hit problems and with wrath gives her coin flip crit for enemy phase so if your still hurting for a better weapon I'd recommend that
Yeah, I've not been a huge fan of Griff either, but on Greg it's working quite well. Makes use of his personal while still letting him use staves, and flying is nice with Miccy to facilitate re-warp bomb shenanigans.
I'll keep the axe in mind for Madeline. I'm currently using Eirika's engrave with a killing edge for extra crit, but I could potentially shuffle some stuff around for sure.
How much if a diff does the gems make in your opinion? I've not really been interested in using them but I'm considering doing a playthrough where I do trials
Honestly, not worth the effort to get them. The weapons are completely viable on their own, and it's a pain to get them through trials. Only ones I have are the ones they give you w/the DLC.
@@TitaniumLegman Sorta happy to hear, bc I genuinely didn't want to do them
They are not worth the trouble at all. I mean, since I have Dodge Tank Sage Gregory breaking the game I can solo all of the maps with him, but considering the small amount üs of gems you get...
I’ve had some success w Madeline on hero. Gave her dual assist and spd/dex + 3 feels a lot more well rounded.
I do like me some Hero plays. 👀
If you really want to help Madeline more, give her Erika or at least inherit Gentility. That’ll give her -7 damage reduction for all incoming attacks she takes. The Fire Emblem Heros Axe is also excellent on her.
Erika helps further by giving her great weapon choices to deal with high defenses, fliers and corrupted units. Also let’s you swap her buffs to suit your need. Need more damage? Covered. Need some nosfaratu healing? Got it.
Give it a try :)
Something I've been wondering about but haven't had the chance to test; how does the maddening AI interact with Gentility? Can it "see" the damage reduction from Gentility, and if so, will that prevent them from attacking you? Or is it kinda invisible to the AI and thus more valuable on Maddening?
I did the same. Great Knight Axe/Spear and while engaged full access to weapon triangle.
My favorite build for Madeline is to reclass her to Halberdier and use Hector emblem. Lance is much more accurate than axe, and with Madeline insane bulk she will be an amazing Enemy phase killer with Hector Quick Reposfe, as well as player phase monster with pincer attack. With Halberdier you lose a bit of defense but I do think it is more beneficial for her since staying with great knight/general will have her defense being too high that enemy will ignore her.
As for the inherited skills, I went with Hit+20 and extra Dex boost. That combined with Lance weapon can help patch her poor dex a lot. The alternative if you want is to just inherit Quick reposte and use Edelgard emblem and she just becomes absurd in my maddening fixed run lol failnaught is mad fun with her high strength, and three house unite will be a delete button even in up to final chapter. Hope you consider give this a try!
Halberdier could be a lot of fun! I'm using Zelkov as a halberdier atm but I'll be keeping this in mind for future runs!
Given how many times Tiki’s ice breath has saved my bacon, there are times I actually want to keep an General on my team, and I’m tempted to keep Madeline as one just for that one niche alone.
Mage Cannon can also do that if you use one.
I’ve always tried to make an avoid tank Gregory with his passive but his spd is bad
I want a Madeline build that hit rad and she hits criticality consistently. Sniper? Thoughts?
Sniper is Def an option! You could also slap Divine Pulse on her to help, or Sigurd's +hit
@@TitaniumLegman I ended up going with an axe hero build for her. I read some of the comments from folks and I thought this one was pretty interesting. I’m gonna give it a whirl. I can always re-class.
Melusine's class ability feels like a missed oppurtunity. You have a class for a character with the stats to comfortably hit targets on their weaker defense stat, but soulblade completely takes away your ability to do so. It boosts your damage for using physical swords vs units with higher def than res, and for using a levin sword on high res units, but why would you ever do that when you could just use a levin sword on high def units and physical swords on high res units. Soulblade just causes you to lose damage for playing correctly.
Also, Camilla's groundswell on a flying unit, allows you to use her dragon vein to clear terrain/heal allies, and then heal immediately from clearing the terrain on their tile. They wouldn't heal otherwise because flying units don't heal from those tiles. So, I would say it's more of a way to give flyers a positive interaction with their dragon vein and less of a niche case.
Yeah, there's times where Soulblade is helpful, but it averaging enemy defense instead of adding your magic to physical attacks makes it a lot more niche.
Quick question how did you level them up. I finished the dlc on maddening . Is there a way to level them up fast they are all level 1.... 😒
I just started using them once I got them. They are level 1 promoted, so technically level 21. I was on chapter 17 when I finished the DLC, so they were only a couple levels behind the rest of my team. You may have to use them Arena and easy xp like Micaiah's great sacrifice to catch them up.
@@TitaniumLegman but I am in madding and I already finished the game , the skirmish are hard for units like this . And babysitting sucks because if they and my order units die on the skirmishes they are go forever.
@@pizarrocam Ahhh, I see. If you're already in the post-game then yeah, it's gonna be a little bit of a rough time for you. Realistically you'd want to level one unit at a time then, again recommending Micaiah for this, so that the rest of your team can successfully fight in the skirmish while you level the Winds and Fell Twins.
Thank you. I wish there was an option to make ar least to manipulate the level of skirmishes so I can try a completely new team and level up. I have like 11 characters that need level up 😆 I mean at least new game plus feature the three houses has to level them up.
@@pizarrocam yeah, it is a shame that there's no new game plus, I'm not sure why they wouldn't include something like that.
Who you giving sigurd? He'll give hit and give your tank more positioning as well
Right now he's on Halberdier Zelkov, but he could potentially be good with Madeline, yeah.
Griss pluss Gregory equals Griff
Try sword power plus levin sword
I have Madeline as a great knight with swords and axes instead of lance and axe I have 80-100% hit with swords I use out str/def and use Leif or hector with her
Swords would have definitely been good, for sure. Good call!