Pad VS Fight Stick! // Fight Game Friday
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- Today, the age old question amongst the FGC!!! STICK VS PAD!!!
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This guy is such a piece of s*** I couldn't stand his f***** b******* f****** personality god dammit f*** this guy I watched like 20 seconds couldn't stand it
😂😂😂 you could at least un-censor yourself, big boy!
@@Ronin24Entertainment why? You are a human being, probably more or less a decent person. I don't want to actually hurt anyone's feelings. I really wanted some good info on the topic but I couldn't get past how annoying the intro was. I took my search elsewhere. The majority of your comments are possitive. I have no fu***** idea how or why. But that means I would be in the minority with whoever follows you. If I were you I wouldn't give a crap about my comments, and I am sure you don't. Non the less it's feedback and I really found the experience going onto your video unpleasant.
All good man, I don’t take comments personally! Not every video is for everyone. I’m not worried about it! Didn’t hurt my feelings!
lmao whats wrong with this guy
Jesus Christ stop being a little bitch
You got your channel back on form with fight game Friday, giving people what they want but leaving you to do what you love for the rest of the week. I'm glad you found the balance.
I've always been a bat top stick player myself
Thank you sir! I thought it was a good balance and mix. I appreciate that!!!!
I switched to stick about a year and a half ago I'm so much better with executions now vs on pad where i would mash until i got the move i wanted to come out. Playing stick kinda forces you to be more deliberate with your inputs so i'm proud to say I no longer am a masher :)
So you havent *smashed* in a long time?
I try not to mash but i end up pressing all the buttons bc i play with thumb on buttons when i use pad. I try to do index and middle but i always migrate back
@@tryhardf844 a controller no my wife theres room for debate there🤣
Arcade stick player here. Fighting games are just so much fun playing with a stick compared to pad. I don't know why but throwing hadokens with a stick is much more fun then on a pad. I also get a lot of cramps in my thumb when using a pad. I could play on a stick for hours and never feel any pain. It's also awesome playing on stick since it makes me feel like I'm in the arcades again. That's just me though and it's all subjective.
One thing I think is definitely worth mentioning is how durable a stick is. Sticks are about $200. Pads are $60 each. Sanwa buttons have an estimated 1 million press lifetime. Pad buttons? Last a lot less. 500,000 presses is what I have heard. Not to mention triggers sticking, d-pads breaking, and all that "good" stuff. I have broken 2 pads in a year. That's $120 right there, not to mention any potential failures in cables. ( I have used 3 $5 cables this year alone.) So that makes it $135 to use pad in my case.
Buuuut on stick, your buttons and sticks last much longer, and your PCB can be easily replaced and upgraded for future consoles for around the price of a pad, not to mention how cheap buttons are ultimately (about $4 a piece per Sanwa buttons), and sticks including balltop and shaft are about $15-$20.
Think about the future.
Really great comment here. Excellent points! Thank you for posting!
Ronin24 my pleasure. Great video here, just subscribed :)
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Literally this. I played alot of analogue stick intensive games (NBA 2k games and Tekken 7) and I would go through 2 controllers a year (60 bucks each) due to analogue wear and tear which caused unwanted or delayed input. I got a fight stick last year for fighting games and not only is it holding up perfect but it's also inevertly increased the life of m console game pads. Highly recommend this investment.
Floral fight sticks are amazing to me at least. I feel like I only have myself to blame when I lose. But on pad I can go in practice and see the directional inputs and get very tilted.
I’m a younger guy. I was born in 2002. I never grew up in the arcade era of gaming. I’ve always had a console. I feel like I could do better on stick than pad but I don’t know if I want to sink a bunch of money into something I may hate.
Answer: hori fighting stick mini 4. Only $40
I grew up with arcades, and even then, for Street fighter, the arcade sticks had a massive learning curve for me. I was more comfortable on the GamePad for a long time. This coupled with the fact that arcade started to die out when I was a teenager. But the more I played any arcades, the more experience I got, and now I'm good with both. The only time I find it difficult to get used to is four more recent fighting games that are designed with the pad in mind, as opposed to an arcades stick, the sole exceptions being Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Soul Caliber, and Tekken
Such a great video! Huge like from me!
Stick, pad, hitbox..I like em all!
Also, Gordy's outros are the best.
Mr. Sujano
The vid was good but it's cringy af
The opposite of good then, 😂
R24 kinda but I don't like to hurt peoples feelings lol
Ain’t no thang to me! Can’t please everyone. I make videos because they’re fun not because I’m worried what anyone thinks. Appreciate the feedback though
I personally prefer arcade stick myself. I love the button layout of a 6-to-8 button setup since it lets me easily hit all of the buttons with most of my fingers, which is especially useful for games like Tekken and Street Fighter. Plus the joystick feels more comfortable and it feels like it allows better range of motion. While a good d-pad is pretty damn accurate (in some cases, MORE accurate than a joystick) but sometimes I miss inputs on a d-pad and it makes my thumb pretty sore after a long play session. Plus even with a 6-button pad, hitting buttons can be a bit convoluted. Overall it comes down to preference.
my main reason to play on sticks is because playing on arcade sticks allow me to play with a more familiar experience; the experiences I had & enjoyed at the arcades.
Plus as long as you have a PCB compatible with various consoles, you don't need to switch to a different controller; in other words you don't have to adapt to a new controller. And yes customizing arcade sticks is a lot easier for me.
I love the neon and colorful look to your Channel. please don't change it and keep up the good work :-)
Thank you so much! Never will! It’s part of the brand!!!
started with pad and only switched to stick for durability. i probably changed 4-5 pads since the dreamcast and snes days and it always infuriated me when i couldn't just open the pad and change the parts. when sf4 came out, i just went out and got the TE stick. it never failed on me besides the hk button which needed a minor adjustment mainly due to years of use. and still to this day, i'm still using the same stick.
controller chaos gives us custom options but its way more expensive than stick parts thats for sure
Pad for mortal Kombat games, stick for everything else. Just something about having block on a trigger makes more sense to me than having it as a face button.
love your reviews! because of you i ended up buying myself a Qanba Drone for a starter to get into the fight stick and see if i would like it. did not take as long as i thought it would to to get used to it and ended up loving it! then i wanted your review about the Razer Panthera and i just ordered it yesterday. now when my friends come over and want to play on the fightstick too we can both be on it.
I'm a Tekken player, I only started a bout a year a go though.
I started playing on a pad and It was pretty ok. literally yesterday I got my 1st stick and It feels so much better for me, the movement is a little tricky but it's easier to land and execute the harder combos, and also you cant really mash it out so it makes you more precise :3
I just started playing on stick, immediately noticed the improvement in control over input. In certain games I still get confused as to which button does what, but once you've got used to a stick, it's pretty clear that it does, in fact, offer a competitive advantage. You can play and practice for longer without injuring yourself too.
You guys helped me finally decide on getting a fightstick and I LOVE IT😍. I grew up playing in the arcade and on consoles starting with Sega Master System and NES. I had the original NES Advantage and that thing was perfect to me. I am noticing there are a few moves, especially in 3D games, that I can do on a stick that I couldn't do with a pad. So I use either depending on the game. Also frame rate, if it's low, is harder with a stick for me playing old games. But the stick looks so damn cool sitting on your shelf next to your consoles.
Sticks and buttons are cheap. Replacing all 9/10 buttons costs 15 bucks top. New sticks are 20-30 bucks. PCBs anywhere between 15-45 bucks depending on the type and brand. Customization/repair isn't as expensive as you make it sound. Also on the repairs, they're rare when you don't have the stock parts.
Double fireball supers on 1P side is tough for me on stick. I can do them, but not at will when you know you can't afford a dropped combo.
Pad is more on point if I'm not playing a 6 button game because I can't stand shoulder buttons in fighters.
stick over pad. More accurate, the d-pad kills your thumbs. The only thing about the stick that needs the learning curve is the button placements, ie, knowing where x, or o is, the l buttons and r buttons etc. But when you get past that, you will be faster and more consistent than the game pad.
You guys are awesome, entertaining, and insightful! How have I not found you til now?
I dunno but I’m glad you did! Welcome to the Ronin family!
When it comes to fighting games I suck on Pad and I been playing on stick since USF4 I live it so much I own 4 fight sticks right now I just stick to pad when I play other games lol good job on the video keep up the good workv
Thank you for the informative video. I play lots of mortal kombat X and I've always played on an xbox one controller and performed well. I wanted to try to play some street fighter 3 3rd strike on my fight stick which has a USB port for an xbox one controller and I had big troubles performing any moves consistently on a stick but I wanted to know if I would be at a disadvantage. This video let's me know that there is no advantage and I love that
Game pad controller or arcade stick? My answer is an arcade stick. An arcade stick has an advantage over regular game pad controllers which means no missed inputs. Game pad controllers can mess up your inputs because you have to keep going in to your fighting game's control configuration menus in order to rearrange you inputs nonstop. With arcade sticks, there is no need for configuring your controls in your fighting games options menus. Here are some examples:
1. 1 vs 1 Tekken games rely on a joystick and four action buttons (Left punch, right punch, left kick and right kick).
2. 2 vs 2 Tekken games (AKA the Tekken Tag Tournament series) rely on a joystick and 5 action buttons (Left punch, right punch, left kick, right kick and a tag-in-your-partner button).
3. Sega and Tecmo/Team Ninja's fighting games such as Virtua Fighter, Dead or Alive, Sonic the Fighters, Fighting Vipers and so on rely on a joystick and three action buttons (Guard, Punch and Kick).
4. The King of Fighters series rely on a joystick and four action buttons (Light punch, heavy punch, light kick and heavy kick).
And 5. the Street Fighter series rely on a joystick and six action buttons (Light punch, medium punch, heavy punch, light kick, medium kick and heavy kick).
Honestly I like to coat my arcade stick in a sanitory towel blanket so i get that pad and stick dual combo feeling.
I snorted my drink out of my nose reading this
LOL
I’ve been using pads, from Saturn controllers to Hori, I’m thinking I’ll use a stick at one point though and see how it compares. I find a pad very nice to hold however, and a good dpad goes a long way.
I try stick on every fighter, but only one where I'm somewhat good at is Dead or Alive. I think the hardest part with learning the stick is movement. For example I can execute well with stick, but overall moving around I suck at.
Damn! Batman scene transition ?! Sick lol. Honestly I don’t know how people play on pad I could never get used to it unless we’re talking about NRS games lol. It’s all about preference and I personally use Korean levers on a stick. Good video bro keep it up
I had always messed around with fighting games with regular controllers, but the first time I put my hands on a fight stick I just kinda knew it was for me.
D.A.R.E. to say no to drugs lol. Awesome vid bro
For me, I couldn't figure out how to play fighting games until I purchased a stick. I think pads are bad if you already use your hands alot, say at work or certain sports, but if you're trying to just hang out a pad is great. Also I think everyone should at least try a stick for a while.
Completely agreed.I got serious RSI from a bunch of stuff i was doing (not gaming related) and stick was the only gaming controller i could use for about 1 month, until my hand completely healed, i think the ergonomic argument of a stick is overlooked really often.
pad for mortal kombat x ( for older mk games it's debatable but arcade sticks work good ) & stick for street fighter, I manly use my tes+ for Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown :) & arc system works games in most cases
For me personally, I use a pad. The reason for it is because I didn’t get interested in fighting games until just a few years ago, and none of the arcades I’ve been to in my town have had any fighting games. For these two reasons, there is almost 0 familiarity between myself and the stick, so while I haven’t actually tried to switch to one, I just feel like it wouldn’t end well for me. I played the game that got me into fighting games on a pad, and I’ve played on a pad ever since then.
i'd say sticks are way better when it comes to longevity, if something gets fucked on your pad you're gonna need a whole new pad or at least a junker pad thats not broken in the way yours is. with stick, dead button boom $2.50 new button drops in no problem. sticks can be a bit more pricy to fix but still not horrible and if the joystick has 4 separate wired up switches that aren't soldered to a joint pcb you may only have to buy a single replacement switch. and sticks are almost made to be popped open and worked on so repairs are easy. pads especially the newer and fancier they get the more of a fiddly hassle they are to work on.
My first controller was the Atari joystick. I finally got myself an arcade stick(NES30 arcade upgraded to Sanwa) and use it for any game it fits with. Beat'em ups(memories of TMNT arcade fresh in my head) , fighting games, shoot'em ups and other arcade ports. Sticks 4 life! :p
I went from standard PlayStation pad, to two types of hori fight pads , to the hori mini fight stick to two full sized fightsticks one upstairs for pc and downstairs for ps4
I like the neon colors, very cool
I have a thing for hot pink and neon myself
Think it’s cuz of my love for hair metal
Thanks Jose! We have a fucking obsession with the 80s haha
PS2 Street Fighter 15th Anniversary pad with a converter works amazingly.
Love that game, Hyper Street fighter 2!
I completely SUCK at fighting games. I couldn't throw a hadouken to save my life... on a pad. At least on a stick, I can actually do stuff. I have no illusions about being good enough to go to tournaments, but back in the PS1 era, I had enough skill at MK Trilogy to beat the computer at hardest difficulty. That's all I want to do.
Awww... dude that was so sad. Seriously I understand you. I just wanna beat the fucking computer that simply blocks all lows magically
Jance Fernandez the computers is sometimes as good as some of the best players in the world so I'd say play online is gar easier
Genre of game matters the most as a PC player I accumulate peripherals. Flight sticks, pads, keyboards mice and fights sticks all have their strengths and weaknesses. A pad is as you said how most start and as it is designed to be a jack of all trades in is a master of none. The fight stick is the best for fighting, race wheel for racing, keyboard for fps and moba, flight stick for flight sim dogfighting and old school arcade trigger games, and lastly the pad and can play open world games and adventure very well but for the rest it is just the starting point.
I’ve always used a stick for fighting games. I first went to an arcade when I was very little. And that’s around the same time that the local arcades died (born in 97). But after that with any console me and my brothers had I begged for whatever stick could come with it that christmas. And My fingers just don’t work on a pad for fighting games now 😅. Also going to locals and tournaments I see a lot of people’s personal flare on their sticks, it’s so dope. But also I wish I saw more custom pads out there. I know it’s possible, but it can get pretty expensive for a custom pad. Sometimes more than a stick. Have fun and play what’s comfortable.
pad 100% for me dude. I was actually inspired to buy a sick ass fightstick from one of your earlier vids about a year ago... got it and it was like learning to play guitar left handed. Lol I modded the shit outta that thing too before I even touched it... never used a fightstick in my life aside from arcades when I was a kid but dropped like $200+ on a real arcade pro 4 + sanwa buttons, an octo gate, custom stick. Lesson? Well there's probably no lesson... still watch all the fightstick vids tho cause I still love em even tho I can't use em. #goodshit.
Sounds like you spent too little time on it.
can i have lol
@skeptic Yeah probably true man... I was getting super frustrated getting my ass handed to me non stop tho so I just switched back to save my pride lol.
@man man lol, I actually sold it for like a $30 profit ;)
Dude my gf just got me a stick for Xmas I'm coming from a pad I need to keep looking down I'm struggling hard but it's a lot of fun def will be a journey. Gonna learn chun li on it and play her on stick I figure she will be in every SF so no time will be wasted lol
Usually for me:
2D Fighter Stick
3D Fighter Pad
But its all about preference :)
Yogensha for camera movement? That would make sense
I don't think fighting games have controlled camera movement
I use stick for both but I see your point. 3d games require crisper movement and with a stick you have to be more careful. A pad is a plus in this aspect but games like tekken where you have to drum your button inputs sometimes can only be done on stick. It’s a give and take.
I dont know man, doing electrics on pad is really hard
Switched to a stick because I broke my hand years ago and it feels much more ergonomic than a controller
Great meMe sense bro
Thanks
Now the question is, Stick or Hitbox..
4:05 boioioioioing
I'm a pad player. I actually started out on a stick but it felt really awkward. But I also didn't gave it enough time to get used to it I think, because when I tried out a pad that felt so much better.
I have both the dualshock 4 and the hori fighting commander but I like the dualshock better so that's what I play on. Great pad and a great d-pad. Although the fighting commander is also a very good pad and I do use it for street fighter. But I barely play that game.
Yeah man, pad for me too 90% of the time!
I’m trying to get good at dragon ball fighterz and it’s my first arcade kind of fighter. I’m using a pad, but I can’t get used to the d pad or analog stick. I need the d pad for movement, but I also need analog for fireball inputs. Can i get some advice?
Zakaria Mohamed If you are using a pad I would definitely advise to use the d pad only. It might be difficult in the beginning to do the quarter circle backward and forward motions on a pad but you are more precise on a d pad then the analog stick. And it is much easier to dash on the d pad. I heard some people play street fighter with the stick for special moves and the d pad for dashing but I wouldn't advise that. Especially since dragonball is a much faster game. And switching between those two takes time.
So I would say to use the d pad. But fighting games require practice so struggling to do the inputs consistently in the beginning is normal. But just practice and I'm sure you will learn it. And if not you could consider an arcade stick. For some people that feels better and they improve when using a stick.
hetiswathetis Thanks. When the game releases I’ll definitely hit the lab.
hetiswathetis Main reason why I switched to a stick for fighting games is because my hands sweat real fast so at a certain point, it makes inputs on a pad very difficult.
I think pads have risen to the level of sticks in the past couple of years, and it’ll only get better. What you said about customization isn’t true anymore, but it comes with a caveat, which is stick prices. I have a battle beaver customs pad with mechanical triggers and a custom d pad for better inputs, and and a custom scuf completely customized, and to me, they’re better NOW than the stick I own.
I was hoping for a real Vs. Like wire the input pads for both to the same trigger and measure how much input lag each has.
Yeah probably not the video for you then homie. I don’t get into or care much about that stuff sorry
Good video, thanks. . . my Atari didnt have a pad.. . after that my apple had a keyboard and a stick . . then my Coleco had a stick with a number pad.. . but yeah from my nintendo on, I had a pad..
I play on sticks for casual fun, but when I'm ready for some intense fights i use my hori fight pad since its what im most confident with. In the end, its all about preference :D
I recently just got In to fight sticks
3 years later how is it?
I love the fight stick for fighting games, off course u can use it for other games too ,either than that a pad if fine for all other games.
Adam Ronin! the King! Once again another awesome video! Sorry about not commenting on your videos alot anymore man, lifes been rough xc. But you keep me smiling bro always know that im watching! you are the man! stay awesome :DDD
I just want a fight stick because it looks cool!
Thinking of getting one.
Is Razer Panthera evo good?
Of course it's one of the best sticks I'd cop
I find it easier to pull off combos with the stick. But I’ve gotta have the octagonal gate. I’d prefer a pad over a square gate
i play on a ps3 madcatz korean edition fightstick, because i grew up in the arcades, and becuse my excution is better of stick, i mostly use the pad fro adventure games, they both have their purpose, and one ok my favourit tekken players lil majin plays on a pad and destroys people with it, it really about whatever you are comfortable with, very cool vid dude, i hope the fgc see that its really up to them which to use.
I got my first fightstick a few months ago, but I’m still trying to get used to using one. Because I’m decent playing Injustice 2 on a pad and ok on other fighting games.
This was a really great video in my opinion.
I use controllers but I really want an arcade stick for ps4 and pc for fighting games and to play on some of those badass neo geo games on PS store!!
that fightstick is so fucking colorful god i wanna eat those fucking buttons theyre probably delicious i bet the green one tastes like jolly rancher fuck i need one rig h t n o w
i feel like this was made for me
People say fight sticks are kinda hard to use, but I'd think it would be fun playing F-zero with an arcade stick on my snes. I'm not really trying to be competetive, just trying to make my game a bit more fun.
Can't put my finger on why, but that neon pink ball top looks sick
I have the chun te2 but it's a little beat up now. I'm looking into getting a Razer
stick i was growing in the arcade even in the nintendo and ps1 times.i play only fg,platformers and indie games on my ps4.platformers on a pad and fg on a stick.i just bought marvel vs capcom infinite it feels so wierd on a pad for me.
Great video, thanks..
I am able to play on both at high levels in fighting games but I prefer stick for 3d and high movement exicution heavy 2d like marvel and tekken but I’ll use pad for very set games where ur not really using direction buttons much like mkx and injustice , I try playing arcade stick on it but the need to block highs and lows constantly is just easier on pad while total directional movement and execution I can play on paid but I do a lot better on stick
the arcade stick is better bro I just to play d-pad now have a year with my baby arcade stick i like the way u customize your MadcatzTE2
10/10 intro
Pad. Nintendo, Sega era, you had no choice.
No dats wat ur parents told u. Cuz I've owned an NES version of tha joy stick
I feel like controllers break alot.
I'm weird! I like using a stick for games like Street fighter, and Guilty Gear but I use a pad for mortal kombat
Yeah but pad on I'm is usually easier with pad
I prefer stick, but I need to change the joystick to a sanwa. It feels better with that.
tbh that stick looks badass AF. gz
You're a man after my own heart. 💘
The camera man sounds like TheG18 xD
Pad players!!!! We must unite! We gotta bring the stick players down to our level. Hahahahaaa! I need more fighting happening
the position of buttons is kinda off to me.. i know its a standards from arcade. wrists strain, on left hand. ive seen someones fight stick, but the stick is replaced by buttons. it looks comfy for me.
I see a stick on the controller? Excuse me for asking a probably obvious question, but why don’t people use that?
SnakeASaur it tends to be looser and the fact you need to switch pad-stick-pad since the analog stick is generally NOT the best for fighters.
First thing I'm doing with my stickwhen it comes in is hope on Guilty Gear and find out my button settings
Men use a stick, kids use a pad.
They see me ronin
Yan Frenkel And they hating
Awesome Video! Not sure If I'll get an answer but I gotta ask :D
Where would one go to find that stick you have to customize one for himself? The concept is new to me but also very interesting.
Hey! The stick I have in that video is a MadCatz TE2 that I’ve slightly Modded with my own art and buttons and balltop!
Ronin24 ah, nice! Thank you for the info!
I miss playing ki2 and mvc2 at the laundry matt thise were my introductions to fighting games i used to hand out asswhoopings in ki2 mvc2 was a toss up because most people were on that machine more
😂😂😂wtf man, but besides that I think you gave me some examples and good info abt a stick imma get me a job and get bank to get a stick, ✌😁
Love the vid
Thank you!
asciiware ps1 fight stick ftw
Ayer Flite hell yes that thing looks so cool
I play GG and tekken on hitbox and SF on stick...hitbox really helps with IAD and movement
3 years later are you a hitbox main now?
@@denisn8336 I actually still do the same setup. I play way less SF these days tho.
Xbox pad is beyond useless for 2d games. Sony pad is great
Yeah it’s a bit too bulky
I find the xbox ( stock ) controller to be just fine for Dragon Ball FighterZ
Fuck your videos are awesome
Great video!
Ok so I hear a lot about having to replace buttons on stick. I've had my stick for 5 months now and no problem and I've played almost every day. How long before buttons start going out?
Natarri Bailey Hey thanks! I personally prefer the hori hayabusa buttons to the Sanwa buttons. Gonna buy the dragon then replace the buttons
He reminds me of the hound
Boom!!!!
I struggle so much using a pad half the time I can’t input my commands any tips?
Adam, your beard game is top-tier in this video. I have beard envy boner.