*Seems like a good solar **Generater.Systems** . I have not had to put it to the test yet in a situation without power but it has seemed to operate fine so far.*
Excellent analysis and very well communicated points. I too find the portability factor along with useful reliability are everything for travel or temps set-ups....that's why I went with the 200 watt Bluetti Panels. In fact, I went with an extra 200 watt panel because of the variable sun clouds overcast situations and find that it's better to over panel than under panel. The extra space (the size of a folded quilt) with NO Sharpe Edges or Glass to shatter & to keep at hand is well worth it. Powerful & Safe and takes up very little Space with very little Weight. BTW, they are producing a newer version of their 200 watt panel with the clam shell surround similar to Jackery....probably because they do tend to tip over in the wind. My work-around is to use small tent stakes to secure them in place and I keep some in the provided pouch for windy days - easy peasy.
Thanks for the review, I'm looking forward to more indepth and potentially long term usage. I just bought these for a great price during prime day ($350 after tax) and looking to pair it up with my EGO power station.
The only problem i have with the Bluetti is that it will easily blow over in the wind. The Renogy does have a huge advantage of not blowing over until the wind is quite high. Everywhere i seem to go, there is a ton of wind.
That is a drawback for sure. The SP200 was better by far than the other panels of that type but won’t compare to a 25 pound panel. I’m looking forward to trying some tie down setups using the rings on it but I won’t have much chance to test that until we have some windy days.
@@outdoormatters3219 Thx for the review. I would buy the Bluetti but that wind is a killer for me. I have tried foldable panels before and they are terrible in wind. Even had my glass panel Renogy suitcase blow over a few times in 40-50+ mph winds. But you are correct, it is unwieldy.
@@mitchellcastell5348 I tried that. It works, sort of. But now you have this constant twisting and wearing of the fabric and sooner or later something is gonna give, lol. Best to go with glass panels in wind.
@@mitchellcastell5348 I'd be concerned that the rocks would damage the panel if the wind got strong enough. The one solution I've considered is tying them down using the tie down points sort of the way you do a tent but I'm not sure how effective it will be. I think the reality is that once you have enough wind there just isn't a portable panel that will stand up to it without serious bracing and that hardly makes it portable.
Thanks for the review. I only have the Renogy 100w suitcase. Its all Ive ever used and it works great for my camper. I agree its a bit cumbersome but through rain, wind or shine I dont have to worry about moving it. I don't knock it for its sturdiness...I just accept the reality of it. I will however get the Bluetti 200w if/when i buy the EB70 or (if I can get over the sticker shock of the AC200Max).
I enjoyed your comparison. I thought for sure Jr. was going to run right up onto those panels at the start of the video. Sure enough, you could buy a premium 200W mono panel for $250 or so, slap some legs of your own making on it, sew up a zipper case pretty easily, or make a fibreglass over wood case, and still be money ahead. But, we're mostly instant gratification people who tell ourselves we don't have time or skills for such nonsense, aren't we?
He is very good about leaving my toys alone! You know I'm willing to pay a premium for the weight. I tried building them myself and it was such a hassle if you have to hike in to camp and carry them that a few extra bucks for them to be 1/8th the pain in the butt to carry seems like a fair deal. I still use home solar panels any time I don't need to pack them in though.
Thanks for the review. Question for you if you don't mind.. Do these have to be used with a solar generator, or can I connect this panel to a charge controller of my own? If yes, do you know what adapter would be required?
Thank you! They use standard MC4 connectors and are normal solar panels with no silly gimmicks. You can use them just like any other solar panel though they are quite expensive if you aren’t specifically looking for portability.
Thanks for the review. Does the SP200 comes with built-in MPPT to be able to connect it directly to charge my car battery? Or I need to buy separate MPPT device
Now take this with a grain of salt because I haven't ever had my hands on the new PV line. My understanding is that the PV solar line does not use the sunpower cells and they have put a new kind of cell in parallel rather than series. In theory what that means in a mixed environment (partially shaded) the new PV line will out perform the SP line. However in any other scenario the SP line will pull ahead due to how good those cells are. Personally I am still leaning towards picking the SP line as my favorite but I hope to get my hands on a PV so I can do a thorough comparison. I never have a problem positioning my solar panels to stay in 100% sun so I don't really see much upside in shade being less damaging to the output. I prefer a higher potential throughout the day.
I have a question, Can you use any of these solar panels to use at home in real time, like for example if I want to use my pc conected to the solar panel, does it work like that?
Thank you. I capped out my EB70 but that’s a limitation of the EB70. The SP200 should be more powerful than that. I’ve seen people getting 180+ but I don’t have a way to replicate that currently.
My question is this: I’m rather concerned about my Bluetti AC200p being outside [due to possible theft] while charging with solar panels….is there a cord for solar panel charging to reach into my house? Thanks in advance for your reply! ~Jim @ TOTALLY RELAXED!~
Absolutely. I'll get you a link. I recommend using a few shorter lengths rather than just 100 foot cables as they are thick and kind of a pain to roll up once they get too long. Solar Panel Extension Cables: amzn.to/3xV9L7t
Hmmm. I have not found one yet but Bob Wells mentioned getting a duplex cable (both wires in one sheath) as the easiest to manage, Amazon refers to these as twin wires….10 gauge suggested for Bluetti panels.
@@maryrenaud6732 I ended up buying two sets of 100 foot cables from EcoFlow…that way I can use my 400 watt ‘AND’ my 160 watt panels at the same time! Have a blessed Sunday and stay safe!
Thank you for your review. Could you tell me what the maximum number of Bluetti SP350 (350W) Solar Panels you can connect safely to your Bluetti AC200P in order to get the fastest recharge time? I'm thinking 2 but wanted to confirm being that you have experience with the Bluetti AC200P
I have used mine over and over for trips and they have held up beautifully. I would not recommend them for a permanent solution (or any similar fold up style panel) as they would definitely break down faster than a residential style.
What did you get for real output on your sp200? I'm only getting 133 watts max into my EB70. Charging on the AC wall adapter I get 200 watts. The power station is about half charged so it shouldn't be throttling watts. Tested the panel on two different battery setups, never got more than 133 watts. I tested different times of day, different angles, nothing improved. I'll try again on a different day.
@@outdoormatters3219 it's limited to 8 amps input, their 200 watt panel is supposed to be designed to be higher voltage less amps just for that reason. Specs on the panel list it as a 24v panel. Why spend $500 on a panel that isn't going to work at capacity. It would have been more honest to include real world performance in this video to show how it really performs. For some reason all these sp200 review videos aren't showing how it really performs lol.
@@Jasonoid I agree, this a a nicely built panel but it's actual performance is not that great. You are better off with two good 100 watt panels in parallel with the EB70.
I believe that it would but you would need an adapter because I don't believe the jackery comes with one. So you would need a MC4 to 8mm such as amzn.to/3zqhZWg and you could use two in series as I believe the 1500 can take up to 50v
It will work with any solar generator that has an MC4 adapter which they all pretty much come with at this point. Even if they don’t come with it you can get one off Amazon depending on your brand.
I have the Bluetti SP200 panels. I've seen a couple reviews of rain having an effect on them. Can these panels be left out in the rain without them being ruined? Has anyone tested their durability in rain?
Beware! These are not water-proof. My Panel is dead now. I bought it paying lot more than other panels(often 100-120W) for faster charging. The panel never reached 200w, max it could pull in was 165w even in super hot sunny Texas. I was happy with it, but that all changed with a sudden quick afternoon rain soaking it. It was sunny but it rained for 10-15mins with only a few clouds in the sky, that was enough to kill it.
Any chance you have an extra panel you've reviewed that's 100 watt with a mp4 adapter for the 300 watt Golabs. I'll pay you for it. Was looking for a fold up. Just looking for something to continue my experiments with my grandchildren with solar until I can afford the panel I actually really want. If this is inappropriate, I apologize.
@@outdoormatters3219 That's ok, I just thought I'd ask. Some of you get a lot to review & I was just hoping by chance you had one you would part with. I appreciate your response. Thank you!
@@outdoormatters3219 oh! Well I just Subscribed then. I appreciate that you gave me a response. Noone else did. I hope you do really well & I'll be watching your videos. You have a great night!
I respectfully disagree. The 200w weighs 35 pounds and is massive when folded up. It is technically portable but after trying it I really didn't see that it made my life any easier than simply using residential panels on a rack. I hated fitting it into the truck and dragging it up to camp was a chore and once that was all done it was not that much more wind resistant due to how much higher off the ground it stood. I did use a couple of the 100 watt version of the suitcase for a while and I thought it was a good product but it was much less efficient than my Bluetti panel and I just couldn't find a use case for it vs a standard home panel. As far as cost goes the the newer improved version of the Renogy panel is actually more expensive (MSRP) and they are about the same on sale with the Renogy being a few bucks more on Amazon as I write this. If it works for you thats awesome but it wouldn't be my pick. Thank you very much for your feedback and for watching!
Thank you for a great review. I've been looking at many portables. One of them has been the Renogy suitcase. Really I'm trying to find a setup that works for my wife. Her being able to do everything. I'm at a time where I'm fighting cancer, and I want it to be easy and lightweight for her. I did get a Delta Max 2000. Able to roll it up to the appliances she needs to use it for. Would you go with this SP200 panel for the Delta Max? It sure seems like it's lightweight and easy plus excellent output? Thank you for taking the time.
*Seems like a good solar **Generater.Systems** . I have not had to put it to the test yet in a situation without power but it has seemed to operate fine so far.*
Excellent analysis and very well communicated points. I too find the portability factor along with useful reliability are everything for travel or temps set-ups....that's why I went with the 200 watt Bluetti Panels. In fact, I went with an extra 200 watt panel because of the variable sun clouds overcast situations and find that it's better to over panel than under panel. The extra space (the size of a folded quilt) with NO Sharpe Edges or Glass to shatter & to keep at hand is well worth it. Powerful & Safe and takes up very little Space with very little Weight. BTW, they are producing a newer version of their 200 watt panel with the clam shell surround similar to Jackery....probably because they do tend to tip over in the wind. My work-around is to use small tent stakes to secure them in place and I keep some in the provided pouch for windy days - easy peasy.
Thank you very much! I agree completely. I am very curious about the new panels I have to say. Looking forward to getting some in soon I hope.
Thanks for the review, I'm looking forward to more indepth and potentially long term usage. I just bought these for a great price during prime day ($350 after tax) and looking to pair it up with my EGO power station.
Thanks for the thought. I’m pretty confident in them but if there is anything interesting to add I’ll do another video later on.
@@outdoormatters3219 ANY UPDATE? BEST 100-200W?
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The only problem i have with the Bluetti is that it will easily blow over in the wind. The Renogy does have a huge advantage of not blowing over until the wind is quite high. Everywhere i seem to go, there is a ton of wind.
That is a drawback for sure. The SP200 was better by far than the other panels of that type but won’t compare to a 25 pound panel. I’m looking forward to trying some tie down setups using the rings on it but I won’t have much chance to test that until we have some windy days.
@@outdoormatters3219 Thx for the review. I would buy the Bluetti but that wind is a killer for me. I have tried foldable panels before and they are terrible in wind. Even had my glass panel Renogy suitcase blow over a few times in 40-50+ mph winds. But you are correct, it is unwieldy.
I have 4 - SP120's myself and have experienced wind problems. Someone suggested putting a rock or weight under the fold outs that prop up the panels.
@@mitchellcastell5348 I tried that. It works, sort of. But now you have this constant twisting and wearing of the fabric and sooner or later something is gonna give, lol. Best to go with glass panels in wind.
@@mitchellcastell5348 I'd be concerned that the rocks would damage the panel if the wind got strong enough. The one solution I've considered is tying them down using the tie down points sort of the way you do a tent but I'm not sure how effective it will be. I think the reality is that once you have enough wind there just isn't a portable panel that will stand up to it without serious bracing and that hardly makes it portable.
Thanks for the review. I only have the Renogy 100w suitcase. Its all Ive ever used and it works great for my camper. I agree its a bit cumbersome but through rain, wind or shine I dont have to worry about moving it. I don't knock it for its sturdiness...I just accept the reality of it. I will however get the Bluetti 200w if/when i buy the EB70 or (if I can get over the sticker shock of the AC200Max).
I definitely get that it’s a good panel just a pain if you need to move it too much.
Nice review! Bluetti has moved to its PV200 panels and I would be interested in a comparison….thanks!
I enjoyed your comparison. I thought for sure Jr. was going to run right up onto those panels at the start of the video.
Sure enough, you could buy a premium 200W mono panel for $250 or so, slap some legs of your own making on it, sew up a zipper case pretty easily, or make a fibreglass over wood case, and still be money ahead.
But, we're mostly instant gratification people who tell ourselves we don't have time or skills for such nonsense, aren't we?
He is very good about leaving my toys alone! You know I'm willing to pay a premium for the weight. I tried building them myself and it was such a hassle if you have to hike in to camp and carry them that a few extra bucks for them to be 1/8th the pain in the butt to carry seems like a fair deal. I still use home solar panels any time I don't need to pack them in though.
Thanks for the review.
Question for you if you don't mind..
Do these have to be used with a solar generator, or can I connect this panel to a charge controller of my own?
If yes, do you know what adapter would be required?
Thank you! They use standard MC4 connectors and are normal solar panels with no silly gimmicks. You can use them just like any other solar panel though they are quite expensive if you aren’t specifically looking for portability.
Thanks for the review. Does the SP200 comes with built-in MPPT to be able to connect it directly to charge my car battery? Or I need to buy separate MPPT device
Why the SP versus the PV solar line??? I can't get a straight answer on the difference between the two. Thanks!
Now take this with a grain of salt because I haven't ever had my hands on the new PV line. My understanding is that the PV solar line does not use the sunpower cells and they have put a new kind of cell in parallel rather than series. In theory what that means in a mixed environment (partially shaded) the new PV line will out perform the SP line. However in any other scenario the SP line will pull ahead due to how good those cells are. Personally I am still leaning towards picking the SP line as my favorite but I hope to get my hands on a PV so I can do a thorough comparison. I never have a problem positioning my solar panels to stay in 100% sun so I don't really see much upside in shade being less damaging to the output. I prefer a higher potential throughout the day.
I have a question, Can you use any of these solar panels to use at home in real time, like for example if I want to use my pc conected to the solar panel, does it work like that?
Thank you for information
Great review! Thanks for posting! Did I see where you were getting 150 watts at times out of these? If so that is not bad as that is 75%.
Thank you. I capped out my EB70 but that’s a limitation of the EB70. The SP200 should be more powerful than that. I’ve seen people getting 180+ but I don’t have a way to replicate that currently.
@@outdoormatters3219 Same thing in my testing, the SP200 easily caps the input on the EB70 I bought, it's great. I bought a second SP200.
My question is this: I’m rather concerned about my Bluetti AC200p being outside [due to possible theft] while charging with solar panels….is there a cord for solar panel charging to reach into my house? Thanks in advance for your reply! ~Jim @ TOTALLY RELAXED!~
Absolutely. I'll get you a link. I recommend using a few shorter lengths rather than just 100 foot cables as they are thick and kind of a pain to roll up once they get too long. Solar Panel Extension Cables: amzn.to/3xV9L7t
Outdoor Matters> Thanks so much for the quick reply! Good information also! Stay safe and thanks again! 🤗
Hmmm. I have not found one yet but Bob Wells mentioned getting a duplex cable (both wires in one sheath) as the easiest to manage, Amazon refers to these as twin wires….10 gauge suggested for Bluetti panels.
@@maryrenaud6732 I ended up buying two sets of 100 foot cables from EcoFlow…that way I can use my 400 watt ‘AND’ my 160 watt panels at the same time! Have a blessed Sunday and stay safe!
Good review! Looks like a premium panel from Bluetti
It is! Thanks!
Yes this settles it for me also. !
mine broke down after 2 years light use
Could the sp200 solar panel charge the bluetti ac200max solar generator. Probably a stupid question but I'm new to all this!
Yes of course. The max can charge from as few as one but you would probably want a few to speed up charging.
Thanks! Got my ac200max on order can't wait to get it.👍
Thank you for your review. Could you tell me what the maximum number of Bluetti SP350 (350W) Solar Panels you can connect safely to your Bluetti AC200P in order to get the fastest recharge time? I'm thinking 2 but wanted to confirm being that you have experience with the Bluetti AC200P
Bluetti has info on their website, I believe max solar is 700 watts, so 2 panels…
Does anyone know how these varies panels hold up over time, using them on a regular basis? They are quite expensive.
I have used mine over and over for trips and they have held up beautifully. I would not recommend them for a permanent solution (or any similar fold up style panel) as they would definitely break down faster than a residential style.
How do you clean it properly?
What did you get for real output on your sp200? I'm only getting 133 watts max into my EB70. Charging on the AC wall adapter I get 200 watts. The power station is about half charged so it shouldn't be throttling watts. Tested the panel on two different battery setups, never got more than 133 watts. I tested different times of day, different angles, nothing improved. I'll try again on a different day.
I get 150 on my eb70. The eb70 is limited to I think it was 6 amps so you won’t ever get the full 200 watts via solar.
@@outdoormatters3219 it's limited to 8 amps input, their 200 watt panel is supposed to be designed to be higher voltage less amps just for that reason. Specs on the panel list it as a 24v panel. Why spend $500 on a panel that isn't going to work at capacity. It would have been more honest to include real world performance in this video to show how it really performs. For some reason all these sp200 review videos aren't showing how it really performs lol.
It’s a 10 amp panel so there is some waste between what you’re getting and what it can produce.
@@Jasonoid I agree, this a a nicely built panel but it's actual performance is not that great. You are better off with two good 100 watt panels in parallel with the EB70.
Bluetti say not to let it get rained on. Sooner or later this will happen. What then?
Would you know if it works with the Jackery 1500?
I believe that it would but you would need an adapter because I don't believe the jackery comes with one. So you would need a MC4 to 8mm such as amzn.to/3zqhZWg and you could use two in series as I believe the 1500 can take up to 50v
Hi, will this work with a solar generator?
It will work with any solar generator that has an MC4 adapter which they all pretty much come with at this point. Even if they don’t come with it you can get one off Amazon depending on your brand.
@@outdoormatters3219 A few power stations might require 2 of these hooked up in series such as the Bluetti AC200P, one will not work.
I have the Bluetti SP200 panels. I've seen a couple reviews of rain having an effect on them. Can these panels be left out in the rain without them being ruined? Has anyone tested their durability in rain?
Beware! These are not water-proof. My Panel is dead now. I bought it paying lot more than other panels(often 100-120W) for faster charging.
The panel never reached 200w, max it could pull in was 165w even in super hot sunny Texas. I was happy with it, but that all changed with a sudden quick afternoon rain soaking it. It was sunny but it rained for 10-15mins with only a few clouds in the sky, that was enough to kill it.
Any chance you have an extra panel you've reviewed that's 100 watt with a mp4 adapter for the 300 watt Golabs. I'll pay you for it. Was looking for a fold up. Just looking for something to continue my experiments with my grandchildren with solar until I can afford the panel I actually really want. If this is inappropriate, I apologize.
Sorry but I don’t have any panels for sale
@@outdoormatters3219 That's ok, I just thought I'd ask. Some of you get a lot to review & I was just hoping by chance you had one you would part with. I appreciate your response. Thank you!
I don’t get free stuff I’m not at that level :)
@@outdoormatters3219 oh! Well I just Subscribed then. I appreciate that you gave me a response. Noone else did. I hope you do really well & I'll be watching your videos. You have a great night!
The best is renogy 200w suitcase not that.. and cheaper..
I respectfully disagree. The 200w weighs 35 pounds and is massive when folded up. It is technically portable but after trying it I really didn't see that it made my life any easier than simply using residential panels on a rack. I hated fitting it into the truck and dragging it up to camp was a chore and once that was all done it was not that much more wind resistant due to how much higher off the ground it stood. I did use a couple of the 100 watt version of the suitcase for a while and I thought it was a good product but it was much less efficient than my Bluetti panel and I just couldn't find a use case for it vs a standard home panel. As far as cost goes the the newer improved version of the Renogy panel is actually more expensive (MSRP) and they are about the same on sale with the Renogy being a few bucks more on Amazon as I write this. If it works for you thats awesome but it wouldn't be my pick. Thank you very much for your feedback and for watching!
Thank you for a great review. I've been looking at many portables. One of them has been the Renogy suitcase. Really I'm trying to find a setup that works for my wife. Her being able to do everything. I'm at a time where I'm fighting cancer, and I want it to be easy and lightweight for her. I did get a Delta Max 2000. Able to roll it up to the appliances she needs to use it for. Would you go with this SP200 panel for the Delta Max? It sure seems like it's lightweight and easy plus excellent output? Thank you for taking the time.