I've got the AC200P, 5 of the SP200 panels and an EB70 and honestly, worth every penny so far. Assuming they don't randomly break for no reason, probably one of the best peace of mind investments I've ever made.
Awesome, wow 5 SP200, you shouldn't have any dramas running out of power with your setup. Glad to hear it has been working well for you! Cheers, Nathan.
@@KenshinPhoenix For sure, it's not the best. But perhaps its worth waiting for the Bluetti PV200 panels. These are currently for sale in the US and no doubt with the sales in both the US and Aus, I'm sure they will make there way over here sometime. They look to be a great panel and IP65 rated.
Wow. This was the first video of yours I've watched and certainly won't be the last. SO bloody comprehensive and clear to understand mate, really well done. Thank You, Subscribed.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. Glad you found the video helpful and useful and hopefully you'll find some of my other videos helpful too. Thanks for the sub. Cheers, Nathan.
I actually set the 2 of mine up over a couple of the $2-3 dollar silver-Crome Mylar space blankets/survival blankets. Only to reflect any sunlight that’s in the couple feet infront of the panels that would be hitting the ground to reflect that light back up. Also it gets so hot in Louisiana. To keep the panels cooler to run the best they can. I connect a battery operated water misting thing to the top an bottom. It’s a long stretch of about 10 misters along the top than down an around the bottom. With the misting heads directed to spray over the panels. With it by remote any time it seems they may lag from heat. The misting system can be turned on by remote I leave by the solar generator an will click it on for 10-20 minutes. An the mist is so fine it basically evaporates sook as it touches the panels. Being the most is to like string around an umbrella shade that people would sit around under. To cool people since it’s so fine of mist without everyone getting wet. So they get an evaporative cooling here an there if there being beat by the sun pretty bad. Just to lower the temp of the cells to keep producing the best possible.
Hey mate, that a great idea. I didn't think about a cooling system like that, but I could see it being very useful, particularly here in Aus! Do you find the space blankets make much difference to the power output?
thanks very much for highlighting that 1 x SP200 panel with the AC200P does not meet the minimum requirement of voltage (35-150v).... therefore if wanting Bluetti portable panels is best to purchase the bundle
Got it, the best solar panel is 3 x Bluetti panels... I would love to see a comparison against a single regular roof mounted solar panel.. if you have 1.5-1.8m x 1m to store one, I think the 300 odd watts and higher voltage and cheaper price is a winner...
Yeah, there are many other good options out there, including roof mounted options (which I also run on my new setup). This being setup, everything has a compromise and pros' and con's 👍
Love your work! In this day and age I do not understand how the bad Ebay sellers can advertise panels that deliver less than half of their claimed rating. I buy panels that fit into the space I have. But its good to see the Bluetti and Projecta deliver what they are rated at.
For sure, a lack of regulation is to blame there. However saying that, there are still many great products and many great deals to be had, but it can be hard to determine to difference between great and average. Cheers.
Nice review and explanation. Main factors effecting solar panel efficiency are angle to the sun (less than perpendicular loses energy) and solar panel temperature. Another note is solar panel efficiency is more commonly measured by the electrical energy conversion from solar radiation. Average Australian solar radiation is 1Kw / m2 and many panels achieve 15-20% conversion efficiency which is often lower after cable and charger loses. With this knowledge of expected panel efficiency the eBay panels can be evaluated. Based on their panel surface area it's not possible for them to have greater than 200w/m2 under any conditions.
Cheers mate, its good to have some more technical input into these topics. I hope that my testing was relatively consistent in regards to panel angles and cable loss. All the panels during the testing were placed in direct sunlight for some time and would have reached a consistent temperature. Thanks again, Nathan.
I have the Ecoflow River Pro & extra battery, plus 160 watt panel. This makes me want to join team Bluetti for my next upgrade purchase!! Impressive panels, to be sure.
It’s funny for me to rock up at camp ground and see people with two or three solar blankets out trying to charge their batteries. I just put out a 250w folding solar panel and usually getting 210 watts into my batteries while also spending a fraction of the cost
That was a very clear and concise video, good job. I've been eyeing off Bluetti for a while, as we don't have many options in Oz, but people say you shouldn't pay more than $1 per watt for solar panels. They are expensive, and I'm concerned only IP54 will not hold up to dust especially. I'll probably end up getting them though once the AC200 max comes out here.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, the IP54 rating is not the best, however the PV200 panels are IP65 and appear to have a much better efficiency as well. Could be worth the wait with the AC200 Max. Cheers, Nathan.
From other reviews and comments it’s looking like Bluetti’s newer PV200s are even better. They have more parallel connections going on inside the panel so partially blocked panels have less wattage drop than SP200s
It has proven to be a great unit for my requirements so far. Having all of the electrical components contained within a single unit is very handy and the portability is just a bonus! Glad you enjoyed the review. Cheers, Nathan.
I bought an fully AU designed and made one very much like this but definitely better quality. Plus I have only 1 24v/330w panel and it pumps in 22amp no problem.
I hope you would do another video on using Tigo optimizers with these portable panels. We use optimizers for our residential project but never have tried on portable panels.
New to solar and about to buy the Bluetti EB200P power pack but confused about solar panels. Does anyone know Is it better to get 2 or more 200w panels or 1 of the newer 420w panel? The power pack has 900w max solar input so if I’ve got 400w worth of solar power coming in, would it ever fully charge the power pack? And if so how long would it take?
Absolute great video again mate! Question, isn't 0,22 amp when idling a bit high? Here in Europe 0,05 amp is quite the max when the car is fully in rest (idle). Maybe because of the dual battery system it draws more? And compliments on the background, those yellow flower fields are looking good! Must be happy that spring is around the corner? Cheers mate!!🤙
Hey mate, yes 0.22 amps is definitely a bit more than I'd hope for. I have quite a few accessories running in a 'standby' mode and I'm assuming that all of these combined are accounting for that figure. This is also one of the biggest reasons I decided to fit a fixed solar on the roof, just to help negate this. Thanks mate, this new little spot I found is very scenic at this time of year, no doubt it will turn a sun-burnt brown coming into the summer months! Thanks as always!
Thanks for the review I bought the Bluetti SP200 and my plan was to use it along with my REDARC BCDS1225D which is MPPT ready, but to my surprise when I contacted Bluetti support to confirm, they are telling me that it has built-in MPPT and can be connected directly to charge car battery. I know they are wrong, but with your video I can confirm that they are 100% wrong. Right?
Hey mate, so the SP200 solar panel DO NOT have a controller in them. They are unregulated panels, not sure why they informed you otherwise. I use my SP200 panels with my Redar BCDC 1240D and it works really well. Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I emailed the guy at Bluetti support and included a link of your video and here is a quote of what he has said "Sincerely sorry for my mistake. Fortunately, I haven't caused any loss to you. I will strictly check again before response in the future. Best regards, Winnie"
Yes, the PV units are slightly different and designed to be more efficient. I have also got some panels I am currently testing and reviewing too, hopefully I'll be able to report on the difference soon. Thanks, Nathan.
Great vid Nathan some of cheap panels are very average, connections on the fold fail. Mates home installation in Chinese made panels 18 installed 3 years go by only 4 working. I have 190watt Redarc puts out 11-12 amps no problems only the purchase price.
Definitely, there is always a compromise somewhere when getting an advantage on the price. This panel isn't cheap and rivals Redarc and Projecta, but I must say the results were proven and the unit has held up well so far with the limited use. Thanks for continuing to watch and support the channel, cheers.
Great video, very thorough and informative... question: I live in Florida USA and we have hurricanes and I currently have a small generator for 2000W of energy to keep my place running on low energy but hate having to refuel generator... this product with solar panels is more expensive but self sufficient which can come in handy if there is a gas shortage so my question is: can you leave the solar panels plugged in 24/7 recharging the power station and have a consistent amount of energy per day... if so, roughly how much power could you get per hour per day if you had clear skies and good weather?
@@igorschukovets7625 When you say one panel is that one group of the 4 panels? How about the 3 panel system? And can it be plugged in and charging 24/7 while using?
Thanks mate, I think this is going to depend heavily on environmental conditions and location. Things like heat and geographical location (ie. amount of sunlight) will create significantly different results per user. I've heard of some user in the US only getting about 150W per SP200 panel, where I'm peaking at 195W at times. Seems to have large differences.
Great video Nathan, I see you’ve added a rear wheel carrier too. Hope you can update us soon on what you’ve chosen and why. Long range fuel tank on the way or just to carry an extra spare wheel? Cheers mate, Tim
Thanks Tim. Yes, for sure. A video will be coming in the future in regards to the rear setup, why and what I've chosen to run. Very happy with how it all turned out and some of my other plans are begin to work well with this setup. Thanks again, appreciate the continued support on the channel.
Mate, speaking cheap Chinese panels what you mentioned you acquired from Ebay, Bluetti is actually a Chinese panel too. It's made in Shenzhen. Actually almost 99% solar panels being sold in Australia are made in China. You pay good money then you get Bluetti, Jackery, Longi....... good quality but if you can't afford it then buy ebay cheap panels online. So I wouldn't say 'cheap Chinese panels'. Excellent video though!
Thanks mate. I hear what you are saying and probably should have chosen my words better when describing the cheap panels. You are correct and the Bluetti solar panels are also made in China, however it's the quality and build process that sets them apart. This only come to make it more confusing when trying to determine the knock offs and the real deals...
@@XploringOz Thanks mate! I bought 3 Allpowers foldable solar panels 200W. They look pretty identical to Bluetti panels as well as the specs but I haven’t got a chance to give a performance test. The cost is about half of the Bluetti but I guess they are probably from the same factory in China. FYI.
@@cclenergy3033 Good news. I would be very interested in seeing how these panels stack up. I also did some research into these panels (and was actually offered a few recently for the channel - but declined). Let me know how you go with them. Cheers, Nathan.
Maybe, but also maybe not. Given that the Bluetti is a 2000wH system, even if you could use 1 x 200W solar panel would take 8 hrs to charge at 100% efficiency, which for most just simply isn’t viable. Further, $729 is the market average for a 200W solar panel, particularly given its quality. The Projecta 180W is $800 and the Redarc is $750? If you are going to spend a significant amount less on a equivalent rates panel then you will not be able to expect results like these…
Thanks mate, I have done an installation video on this panel on my YT channel, however more recently I have done a year review on the panel, where the results were a little diminished: ruclips.net/video/T1W5du5Rwtg/видео.html Cheers, Nathan.
Can you advise on the start up of apc2000 all I get is a green flashing light they say I need panels to reset inverter but I don’t have the panels have tried ac and dc charge with no luck
Hmm, can't say I ever seen this happen with my unit. I'm not sure how adding solar will 'reset the inverter' which isn't linked to the solar input 🤷♂️ Have you had any luck since posting this? Cheers, Nathan.
Hey mate, depends how quickly you want to charge the unit. You will need at least two panels together in series at a minimum though. 3 or 4 would just charge it much quicker 👍
Yes, that's correct. As long as the voltage isn't overloaded the MPPT solar controller acts like a gate and will just let in maximum wattage for best charging. Cheers, Nathan.
The Bluetti solar panels are also “Made In China”! It is 2 to 3 times more expensive then the cheaper versions in the market. No doubt it is a better quality product . One would be surprised and disappointed if there were no difference between !
For sure, they are made in China, it's printed straight onto the panel. But there is a significant difference between the quality, components used and manufacturing process in these panels. The idea is to show that not everything is as it seems. It's hard these days to distinguish between good products and false advertising.
That’s correct, if you only connect 1 SP200 to that power station it will not start charging. There has to be a total of 35V or more to engage the MPPT charger
There are many different ways, however I find just warm soapy water with microfibre clothes do a great job and don't scratch the surface of the panel too much 👍 Cheers, Nathan.
I get nowhere near that efficiency with my SP200s on the clearest day in the summer here in Northern America! With 3 panels I get about 480W tops! Maybe it is because you have no ozone layer?
Hmm, that is interesting. I guess there would be many different environmental factors involved. I do live in a regional area of Western Australia, so environmental pollution is minimal.
That's weird. I live in Canada and right now with it being fall, my panels have no issues getting the full wattage they advertise as long as the suns up.
Canadian here. It's fall so that means we are physically further away from the sun and the tilt of the earth mean there is even more atmosphere between the ground and sun. You'll be lucky to get 75% of the rated claim.
Hey mate, the efficiency is going to go a long way to determine the quality of a panel. This panel is still going strong with real world use. It terms of being the best, I can't comment with limited experience with other manufacturers.
@@XploringOz I want the best solar panel there is. Not due to price, efficiency, but power and speed of charging a battery. I don't care how long it lasts, so long as it can power my PC, my fridge, 6 monitors, etc. Is that even possible?
Firstly, aH refers to amperage storage (amp hours). I think you are referring to amperage, which is a measurement of current flow. As Mentioned in the video, 8/9 amps flowing at a rate of 57V is very good and will provide a quick and effective charge. Voltage has a significant impact on the current through an electrical circuit. The Bluetti system does not charge off 12V like common vehicle. Also shown in the video, when running through a vehicle charger at 12V we are receiving 11a per 200W panel. Might help to watch the whole video?
Perhaps you should say percentage of rated power rather than efficiency. The rating of the panels is completely arbitrary, it seems, and Bluetti in this instance has decided to rate these panels at 200W. If the other panels you tested had decided to rate their panels better then they would have been just as efficient by your definition. Also you glossed over the fact the the Bluetti is incompatible, without some electrical knowledge, with just about all the common fold up panels on the market which have Voc of 21V and a MPP of around 19V. 90% of consumers would not know they have to connect two standard panels in series. That, to me, is a serious deficiency.
Shame Bluetti Australia's Customer Service is non-existent. After watching your earlier review on the AC200P power unit I coughed up ~$3,000 for one, and all I've received is a text message from them 48hrs ago saying it's been shipped, however the tracking ID is not recognised on the Toll IPEC website. No-one at Bluetti bothers replying to emails, online chats, tweets, etc. Non-existent Customer "Support" I'd spend your money elsewhere with a company that actually give a sh*t about their customers. No-one likes spending thousands of dollars then being kept in the absolute dark about it. Feeling like I have somehow been scammed out of my $3,000.................
Hey mate, sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately customer service is not something that I can review or comment on in my position. As you can imagine, generally these companies treat RUclipsr's a little differently from other customers, given the nature of their influence. Although I see your frustration with their lack of communication, I don't believe you will have been scammed out of your money. I'm sure the unit is on the my way will arrive soon. Apart from the issue of the tracking number not being registered, is there any other reason to suspect a scam? Cheers, Nathan.
I hear you, I guess it just depends on what power solutions you require for your setup. If you're needing an efficient large wattage unit, then spending the little extra for something like this would make sense in the long run. Cheers, Nathan.
You just don't go buy the cheapest and expect something, there are many good options on ebay for less than half the price of the bluetti. Everything is made in China it's all about finding the right item.
This is an option, slightly risky one, but definitely an option. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it's very difficult to see the difference between companies that offer genuinely good products and those just selling cheap goods.
Very different types of power solutions there. Although gas generators are consistent, there fuel system are finite and not to mention noise pollution and general engine maintenance. Pro’s and con’s for each, but there is not doubt that battery and electrical systems are the way of the future.
I've got the AC200P, 5 of the SP200 panels and an EB70 and honestly, worth every penny so far. Assuming they don't randomly break for no reason, probably one of the best peace of mind investments I've ever made.
Awesome, wow 5 SP200, you shouldn't have any dramas running out of power with your setup. Glad to hear it has been working well for you!
Cheers, Nathan.
Add 2 more SP200, you can connect all 7 together in series and power up a regular residential inverter.
I'm a bit iffy about the IP54 rating, it's not the worst, but it's not great either.
@@KenshinPhoenix For sure, it's not the best. But perhaps its worth waiting for the Bluetti PV200 panels. These are currently for sale in the US and no doubt with the sales in both the US and Aus, I'm sure they will make there way over here sometime. They look to be a great panel and IP65 rated.
Wow. This was the first video of yours I've watched and certainly won't be the last. SO bloody comprehensive and clear to understand mate, really well done. Thank You, Subscribed.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. Glad you found the video helpful and useful and hopefully you'll find some of my other videos helpful too.
Thanks for the sub.
Cheers, Nathan.
I actually set the 2 of mine up over a couple of the $2-3 dollar silver-Crome Mylar space blankets/survival blankets. Only to reflect any sunlight that’s in the couple feet infront of the panels that would be hitting the ground to reflect that light back up.
Also it gets so hot in Louisiana. To keep the panels cooler to run the best they can. I connect a battery operated water misting thing to the top an bottom. It’s a long stretch of about 10 misters along the top than down an around the bottom. With the misting heads directed to spray over the panels.
With it by remote any time it seems they may lag from heat. The misting system can be turned on by remote I leave by the solar generator an will click it on for 10-20 minutes.
An the mist is so fine it basically evaporates sook as it touches the panels.
Being the most is to like string around an umbrella shade that people would sit around under. To cool people since it’s so fine of mist without everyone getting wet. So they get an evaporative cooling here an there if there being beat by the sun pretty bad. Just to lower the temp of the cells to keep producing the best possible.
Hey mate, that a great idea. I didn't think about a cooling system like that, but I could see it being very useful, particularly here in Aus!
Do you find the space blankets make much difference to the power output?
thanks very much for highlighting that 1 x SP200 panel with the AC200P does not meet the minimum requirement of voltage (35-150v).... therefore if wanting Bluetti portable panels is best to purchase the bundle
No problems. Definitely a big consideration if looking at purchasing the AC200P. Need more than that minimum of 35V 👍
@@XploringOz lots of good Bluetti sales going on now.... getting ready to pull the trigger
@@Farang_Lifestyles There sure is. I still maintain they are a good value for money product.
Another honest and independent video Nathan.
Unlike a lot of other " reviews" that ive come accross.
Thanks mate, I'm glad to hear that you continue to enjoy the content and I will always aim to provide unbiased and truthful reviews.
Cheers.
Got it, the best solar panel is 3 x Bluetti panels... I would love to see a comparison against a single regular roof mounted solar panel.. if you have 1.5-1.8m x 1m to store one, I think the 300 odd watts and higher voltage and cheaper price is a winner...
Yeah, there are many other good options out there, including roof mounted options (which I also run on my new setup). This being setup, everything has a compromise and pros' and con's 👍
Love your work! In this day and age I do not understand how the bad Ebay sellers can advertise panels that deliver less than half of their claimed rating. I buy panels that fit into the space I have. But its good to see the Bluetti and Projecta deliver what they are rated at.
For sure, a lack of regulation is to blame there. However saying that, there are still many great products and many great deals to be had, but it can be hard to determine to difference between great and average.
Cheers.
Nice review and explanation.
Main factors effecting solar panel efficiency are angle to the sun (less than perpendicular loses energy) and solar panel temperature. Another note is solar panel efficiency is more commonly measured by the electrical energy conversion from solar radiation. Average Australian solar radiation is 1Kw / m2 and many panels achieve 15-20% conversion efficiency which is often lower after cable and charger loses. With this knowledge of expected panel efficiency the eBay panels can be evaluated. Based on their panel surface area it's not possible for them to have greater than 200w/m2 under any conditions.
Cheers mate, its good to have some more technical input into these topics. I hope that my testing was relatively consistent in regards to panel angles and cable loss. All the panels during the testing were placed in direct sunlight for some time and would have reached a consistent temperature.
Thanks again, Nathan.
I have the Ecoflow River Pro & extra battery, plus 160 watt panel. This makes me want to join team Bluetti for my next upgrade purchase!! Impressive panels, to be sure.
Very impressive and their new PV200 panels are even better again. Very impressed by the products from Bluetti 👍
It’s funny for me to rock up at camp ground and see people with two or three solar blankets out trying to charge their batteries. I just put out a 250w folding solar panel and usually getting 210 watts into my batteries while also spending a fraction of the cost
That was a very clear and concise video, good job. I've been eyeing off Bluetti for a while, as we don't have many options in Oz, but people say you shouldn't pay more than $1 per watt for solar panels. They are expensive, and I'm concerned only IP54 will not hold up to dust especially. I'll probably end up getting them though once the AC200 max comes out here.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, the IP54 rating is not the best, however the PV200 panels are IP65 and appear to have a much better efficiency as well. Could be worth the wait with the AC200 Max.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Oh I didn't realise they have other panels as well. IP65 would be much better. Thanks.
@@KenshinPhoenix No problems. Hopefully they come to Aus sooner rather than later 👍
If you like the bluetti panels, have a look at the safiery high voltage portable panels, they pump out some amazing numbers
Cheers mate, I'll check them out.
Thanks, Nathan.
From other reviews and comments it’s looking like Bluetti’s newer PV200s are even better. They have more parallel connections going on inside the panel so partially blocked panels have less wattage drop than SP200s
Will be very interesting to see how they go when they finally make it to Australia.
Thank you for sharing, this is very useful for my radio project off the grid. Keep the good work!
Awesome, great to hear. Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers.
Seems a pretty well built power station. I am actually considering the Delta Mini already after your review.
It has proven to be a great unit for my requirements so far. Having all of the electrical components contained within a single unit is very handy and the portability is just a bonus!
Glad you enjoyed the review.
Cheers, Nathan.
I bought an fully AU designed and made one very much like this but definitely better quality. Plus I have only 1 24v/330w panel and it pumps in 22amp no problem.
Nice, glad to hear you have a good system for your setup 👍
Cheers
I hope you would do another video on using Tigo optimizers with these portable panels. We use optimizers for our residential project but never have tried on portable panels.
Thanks for the suggestion mate, I'll have a look into them and see whether they would be worth while using.
Cheers, Nathan.
Another first class review. Very educational too. Many thanks
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it!
Cheers, Nathan.
awesome content once again mate, love your work!
Thanks mate, glad you are enjoying it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Thanks great review of the Bluetti panel
Thanks mate, glad it was helpful 👍
Great comparison video. Panels of similar output should be quite close in size, as you testing showed.
Thanks mate, very happy with these panels, they are still going strong to date.
Cheers, Nathan.
New to solar and about to buy the Bluetti EB200P power pack but confused about solar panels. Does anyone know Is it better to get 2 or more 200w panels or 1 of the newer 420w panel? The power pack has 900w max solar input so if I’ve got 400w worth of solar power coming in, would it ever fully charge the power pack? And if so how long would it take?
Absolute great video again mate! Question, isn't 0,22 amp when idling a bit high? Here in Europe 0,05 amp is quite the max when the car is fully in rest (idle). Maybe because of the dual battery system it draws more? And compliments on the background, those yellow flower fields are looking good! Must be happy that spring is around the corner? Cheers mate!!🤙
Hey mate, yes 0.22 amps is definitely a bit more than I'd hope for. I have quite a few accessories running in a 'standby' mode and I'm assuming that all of these combined are accounting for that figure. This is also one of the biggest reasons I decided to fit a fixed solar on the roof, just to help negate this.
Thanks mate, this new little spot I found is very scenic at this time of year, no doubt it will turn a sun-burnt brown coming into the summer months!
Thanks as always!
Thanks for the review
I bought the Bluetti SP200 and my plan was to use it along with my REDARC BCDS1225D which is MPPT ready, but to my surprise when I contacted Bluetti support to confirm, they are telling me that it has built-in MPPT and can be connected directly to charge car battery. I know they are wrong, but with your video I can confirm that they are 100% wrong. Right?
Hey mate, so the SP200 solar panel DO NOT have a controller in them. They are unregulated panels, not sure why they informed you otherwise.
I use my SP200 panels with my Redar BCDC 1240D and it works really well.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I emailed the guy at Bluetti support and included a link of your video and here is a quote of what he has said
"Sincerely sorry for my mistake. Fortunately, I haven't caused any loss to you. I will strictly check again before response in the future.
Best regards,
Winnie"
@@rahalati Interesting, at least they had the courtesy to reply.
June 2022 just bought the PV200panels from Bluetti, but they look different and are larger….
Yes, the PV units are slightly different and designed to be more efficient. I have also got some panels I am currently testing and reviewing too, hopefully I'll be able to report on the difference soon.
Thanks, Nathan.
Great vid Nathan some of cheap panels are very average, connections on the fold fail. Mates home installation in Chinese made panels 18 installed 3 years go by only 4 working. I have 190watt Redarc puts out 11-12 amps no problems only the purchase price.
Definitely, there is always a compromise somewhere when getting an advantage on the price. This panel isn't cheap and rivals Redarc and Projecta, but I must say the results were proven and the unit has held up well so far with the limited use.
Thanks for continuing to watch and support the channel, cheers.
Great video, very thorough and informative... question: I live in Florida USA and we have hurricanes and I currently have a small generator for 2000W of energy to keep my place running on low energy but hate having to refuel generator... this product with solar panels is more expensive but self sufficient which can come in handy if there is a gas shortage so my question is: can you leave the solar panels plugged in 24/7 recharging the power station and have a consistent amount of energy per day... if so, roughly how much power could you get per hour per day if you had clear skies and good weather?
It’s up to 1,2 KWh from one PowerOak solar panel SP200 in South Germany.
@@igorschukovets7625 When you say one panel is that one group of the 4 panels? How about the 3 panel system? And can it be plugged in and charging 24/7 while using?
Thanks mate, I think this is going to depend heavily on environmental conditions and location. Things like heat and geographical location (ie. amount of sunlight) will create significantly different results per user.
I've heard of some user in the US only getting about 150W per SP200 panel, where I'm peaking at 195W at times. Seems to have large differences.
Great review, would have if they were fitted with Anderson plugs.
Thanks. So they don't come with Anderson from standard, however very easy to change or can also purchase a small adaptor between MC4 and Anderson.
Great video Nathan, I see you’ve added a rear wheel carrier too. Hope you can update us soon on what you’ve chosen and why. Long range fuel tank on the way or just to carry an extra spare wheel? Cheers mate, Tim
Thanks Tim. Yes, for sure. A video will be coming in the future in regards to the rear setup, why and what I've chosen to run. Very happy with how it all turned out and some of my other plans are begin to work well with this setup.
Thanks again, appreciate the continued support on the channel.
Good explanation. Thank you
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Great job
Thanks mate!
Mate, speaking cheap Chinese panels what you mentioned you acquired from Ebay, Bluetti is actually a Chinese panel too. It's made in Shenzhen. Actually almost 99% solar panels being sold in Australia are made in China. You pay good money then you get Bluetti, Jackery, Longi....... good quality but if you can't afford it then buy ebay cheap panels online. So I wouldn't say 'cheap Chinese panels'. Excellent video though!
Thanks mate. I hear what you are saying and probably should have chosen my words better when describing the cheap panels.
You are correct and the Bluetti solar panels are also made in China, however it's the quality and build process that sets them apart.
This only come to make it more confusing when trying to determine the knock offs and the real deals...
@@XploringOz Thanks mate! I bought 3 Allpowers foldable solar panels 200W. They look pretty identical to Bluetti panels as well as the specs but I haven’t got a chance to give a performance test. The cost is about half of the Bluetti but I guess they are probably from the same factory in China. FYI.
@@cclenergy3033 Good news. I would be very interested in seeing how these panels stack up. I also did some research into these panels (and was actually offered a few recently for the channel - but declined). Let me know how you go with them.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Hi Nathan, will definitely do a test in Fraser Island few days later. Will keep you updated!
The fact that you need at least 2 uber expensive panels to power the AC200 is ridiculous.
Maybe, but also maybe not. Given that the Bluetti is a 2000wH system, even if you could use 1 x 200W solar panel would take 8 hrs to charge at 100% efficiency, which for most just simply isn’t viable.
Further, $729 is the market average for a 200W solar panel, particularly given its quality. The Projecta 180W is $800 and the Redarc is $750? If you are going to spend a significant amount less on a equivalent rates panel then you will not be able to expect results like these…
@@XploringOz There is no substitute for quality
@@Mick_4591 Agreed!
Great video and explanation, do you have same data from your fixed panel to compare efficiency to the portable ones?
Thanks mate, I have done an installation video on this panel on my YT channel, however more recently I have done a year review on the panel, where the results were a little diminished: ruclips.net/video/T1W5du5Rwtg/видео.html
Cheers, Nathan.
Can you advise on the start up of apc2000 all I get is a green flashing light they say I need panels to reset inverter but I don’t have the panels have tried ac and dc charge with no luck
Hmm, can't say I ever seen this happen with my unit. I'm not sure how adding solar will 'reset the inverter' which isn't linked to the solar input 🤷♂️
Have you had any luck since posting this?
Cheers, Nathan.
How many 200watts panel is best to use? To charge ac200p?
Hey mate, depends how quickly you want to charge the unit. You will need at least two panels together in series at a minimum though. 3 or 4 would just charge it much quicker 👍
Hey what happens if you add say 1000w of solar panels? Does it just limit the input to 700w max?
Yes, that's correct. As long as the voltage isn't overloaded the MPPT solar controller acts like a gate and will just let in maximum wattage for best charging.
Cheers, Nathan.
The Bluetti solar panels are also “Made In China”! It is 2 to 3 times more expensive then the cheaper versions in the market. No doubt it is a better quality product . One would be surprised and disappointed if there were no difference between !
For sure, they are made in China, it's printed straight onto the panel. But there is a significant difference between the quality, components used and manufacturing process in these panels. The idea is to show that not everything is as it seems. It's hard these days to distinguish between good products and false advertising.
Excellent.
Cheers mate!
So if I connect one bluetti solar panel to the ac200p it won't charge at all or just minimum???
That’s correct, if you only connect 1 SP200 to that power station it will not start charging. There has to be a total of 35V or more to engage the MPPT charger
How do you clean a solar panel properly?
There are many different ways, however I find just warm soapy water with microfibre clothes do a great job and don't scratch the surface of the panel too much 👍
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz , Thank Ya kindly from Texas! 🙏🏼
I get nowhere near that efficiency with my SP200s on the clearest day in the summer here in Northern America! With 3 panels I get about 480W tops! Maybe it is because you have no ozone layer?
Hmm, that is interesting. I guess there would be many different environmental factors involved. I do live in a regional area of Western Australia, so environmental pollution is minimal.
That's weird. I live in Canada and right now with it being fall, my panels have no issues getting the full wattage they advertise as long as the suns up.
Canadian here. It's fall so that means we are physically further away from the sun and the tilt of the earth mean there is even more atmosphere between the ground and sun. You'll be lucky to get 75% of the rated claim.
@@Dubst3pT3ch For sure, our geographical location will make a big difference on the efficiency of any solar panel.
I don't care about efficiency, I want the best of the best. What is that?
Hey mate, the efficiency is going to go a long way to determine the quality of a panel. This panel is still going strong with real world use. It terms of being the best, I can't comment with limited experience with other manufacturers.
@@XploringOz I want the best solar panel there is. Not due to price, efficiency, but power and speed of charging a battery. I don't care how long it lasts, so long as it can power my PC, my fridge, 6 monitors, etc. Is that even possible?
How is 3x200watt panels putting out 8ah combined good?
he connected in series so voltage is around the 59V mark. 59vx8ah=472whr, assuming no efficiency loss= 24ah @19.5v at that point
Firstly, aH refers to amperage storage (amp hours). I think you are referring to amperage, which is a measurement of current flow. As
Mentioned in the video, 8/9 amps flowing at a rate of 57V is very good and will provide a quick and effective charge. Voltage has a significant impact on the current through an electrical circuit. The Bluetti system does not charge off 12V like common vehicle.
Also shown in the video, when running through a vehicle charger at 12V we are receiving 11a per 200W panel.
Might help to watch the whole video?
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Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
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Cheers, Nathan.
Perhaps you should say percentage of rated power rather than efficiency. The rating of the panels is completely arbitrary, it seems, and Bluetti in this instance has decided to rate these panels at 200W. If the other panels you tested had decided to rate their panels better then they would have been just as efficient by your definition.
Also you glossed over the fact the the Bluetti is incompatible, without some electrical knowledge, with just about all the common fold up panels on the market which have Voc of 21V and a MPP of around 19V. 90% of consumers would not know they have to connect two standard panels in series. That, to me, is a serious deficiency.
Shame Bluetti Australia's Customer Service is non-existent.
After watching your earlier review on the AC200P power unit I coughed up ~$3,000 for one, and all I've received is a text message from them 48hrs ago saying it's been shipped, however the tracking ID is not recognised on the Toll IPEC website.
No-one at Bluetti bothers replying to emails, online chats, tweets, etc. Non-existent Customer "Support"
I'd spend your money elsewhere with a company that actually give a sh*t about their customers. No-one likes spending thousands of dollars then being kept in the absolute dark about it.
Feeling like I have somehow been scammed out of my $3,000.................
Hey mate, sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately customer service is not something that I can review or comment on in my position. As you can imagine, generally these companies treat RUclipsr's a little differently from other customers, given the nature of their influence.
Although I see your frustration with their lack of communication, I don't believe you will have been scammed out of your money. I'm sure the unit is on the my way will arrive soon. Apart from the issue of the tracking number not being registered, is there any other reason to suspect a scam?
Cheers, Nathan.
you aussies are all backwards its 200 x3 200 watts times 3 means 3 200 watt pannels 600 watts total
good job, nice if ya have the cash to splash
I hear you, I guess it just depends on what power solutions you require for your setup. If you're needing an efficient large wattage unit, then spending the little extra for something like this would make sense in the long run.
Cheers, Nathan.
Wait. Don't tell me this video was in English... :-)
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You just don't go buy the cheapest and expect something, there are many good options on ebay for less than half the price of the bluetti. Everything is made in China it's all about finding the right item.
This is an option, slightly risky one, but definitely an option. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that it's very difficult to see the difference between companies that offer genuinely good products and those just selling cheap goods.
99% efficiency 🤭
Best solar is classic petrol generator!
Very different types of power solutions there. Although gas generators are consistent, there fuel system are finite and not to mention noise pollution and general engine maintenance. Pro’s and con’s for each, but there is not doubt that battery and electrical systems are the way of the future.
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Aren’t you supposed to be in a total lockdown police state right now??
We are very lucky here in Western Australia, very few lockdowns due to tough border control and lack of COVID-19 cases present.