I've been gaming for over 30 years but I've got to say that GT7 with a wheel in VR is one of my all time favourite experiences. I use it to jump into dream cars such as the Ferrari F40 and just go for a nice drive
@@ryanwalters6184 we don't need more games, we need more content and players in Gran Turismo 7 to make it the most joyful experience. They need to add big truck racing, tourist trophy motorcycles, free roam, dozens more tracks... And most importantly more game modes to attract all types of fun players. Car bowling, tag, cop chases, traffic dodging like music rally.... More games makes for more splintered lower quality mess. Take the best and keep improving and expanding! Allow options to tailor collision response to be very realistic or very Mario kart like. Make damage the same, have extremely deep tuning and customization... Why can't I paint my lug nuts yet?!?
120 fps locked with such fantastic fidelity vehicles is just unrivaled. Free roam locales says around like Tokyo, PCH1, or in the Alps or the dragon's tail to just cruise and enjoy the sights and sounds would be a great relaxing Gran turismo experience.
Quality mode with VRR unlocked framerate is the way to go. Side note if you want to test the RT mode you should pick a track/time of day that actually has reflective surfaces... 😂
I thought the track lighting looked a lot better with RT on (I don't care about reflections when I'm racing, generally. Nice to have for replays I guess.)
So pleased the VR update came through too. Sounds like it's got better. I was hoping they'd use the extra power for the mirrors to follow your movements.
Wow, the headlights in the trees at night, that looks super good, the projected shadow of the car in front looks fully real time, and the local shadowing in the tree foliage maintains a very compelling look!
I did both modes in vr and framerate is by far the best look you'll get in vr2. The graphical mode has very minimal gains in image. Framerate mode really cleans up the image in vr2
I got my RUclips gaming recap and you came out to be the creator I watched the most in 2024! I love your content keep up the work and let’s soon reach the 200k 🎉
You needed to try a night race at a track like Tokyo Expressway to really see the ray traced reflections. Not sure if what I’ve seen so far wpuld let me justify an upgrade, but I’m still thinking hard about it, though. Glad you’re enjoying it, Rory! 👍
Wheel sim racers will love the amazing feel of 120fps locked. Controller gamers won't notice and can use ray tracing as a rear view mirror while flying on the magic carpet behind the car.
If you really want to test and check the ray tracing go to one of the Tokyo street circuits at night in the rain. You will definitely see the differences there, also especially in cockpit view.
You do know that you could run 120fps before the update? I didn't see a big difference in gameplay between 120 & 60fps.
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For ray tracing, if you want to see the difference go to track (Nordschleife ex) in dawn or twilight or some nighttime racing on rain. Play around with the setting, try it with and without. The asphalt reflections are much better and more atmospheric plus the light reflection on the trees and signs is more immersive, also on the cars in front too. It makes much more immersive/moodier even though at a lover frame rate. Also, for PSSR and performance mode, the rain spray looks terrible, especially in Tokyo at night, it is a complete mess, but PSSR is an AI tech that will be updated so I hope they resolve this.
I live vicariously through you because I love gran Turismo. I also write, fantasy. And after saying that, do you know what’s really interesting? It seems like that timing, that precise timing of the turns, passing, and all the intricacies one needs to race? Well, it competes directly with the part of my brain that has to do with finding those words just when I need them in writing. And … it appears that it’s only racing games that affect it. And it goes both ways. If I race I cannot write. If I write, I cannot race. That I can relearn those skills is always good, but writing is infinitely more fun. Which is why I watch. Thank you.
Hi mate So you had a quick spin on vr in the end and mentioned it doesn’t make you feel as sick as before Have you had any more time and is it still nausea free I did have the psvr2 in the past but sold due to nausea issue I tried everything I’m hoping this pro update sorts issue I will buy it again if it’s better for nausea now!
I think the frame rate is for playing and the ray tracing is for replays. Having watched both yours and Soarks’ videos, I feel this is the best way to utilise the new PS5 Pro to its maximum. Thanks Rory for getting this to us on the patch day!!
No there's definitely ray tracing in game and a bump in resolution too. But as you race you can't notice the difference, it's not that big. 120 Hz it's way easier to notice the difference.
Came looking for your stream earlier today to see how the Pro upgrade is, so I appreciate the tests. I think the ray-tracing only affects the hood of the car, I couldn't see to much in the reflections off the other cars. Hopefully they'll release GT7 for the PC, then I can ignore the Pro. If not, I may end up upgrading.
So I have tried various modes and I now know for a fact GT7 looks its best with PSSR off at 120fps. I am gaming on a late Sony 4K TV and the image is near perfect. It’s the most stable image as a whole, on my TV. Perhaps some people are seeing different results due to their setup. Overall I am really happy.
@@M7ikey7 yes... having to choose between performance in fidelity in most games is awful... most of the time there is huge drawbacks no matter which one u choose. with the pro that is no longer a thing
Do we think there’s ever gonna be an update that gives the option to remove the wheel in cockpit view? It’s been a standard in games for 20yrs . Personally I just can’t properly love a driving game unless I’m fully immersed and feel that I’m actually driving the car I’m in. The wheel moving makes me dizzy. And I really want to love GT7. I have my fingers crossed every update.
Didnt see anyone commenting this so I'll bring it up: Does the steering feel any different with 120hz? There's pf course a difference when you talk about the monitor's refresh rate and the actual frames per second on the console running the game. If it's 120hz but locked to 60fps it doesn't feel any different. But if it's also 120fps it should feel much more responsive which improves the driving experience a lot.
@ it's not much better, we aren't talking generational shifts here or massive poly count gains just better lighting and more particles and lighting. I think the main thing here is that if you need a better monitor and you'll actually notice the lighting while racing it's an upgrade. If you don't want or have those things the game still looks and plays class leading.
@@glencooley66 dead on. However, if you do have the right panel it is a considerable upgrade. If not, I don’t think I’d bother. I have a 65” OLED with 120hz, VRR and ALLM. Also, it looks sooo much better in VR because base version has immersion breaking ghosting.
You dont need 120fps in racing games, especially well made racing games! More frames are only needed imo if there is quick movements across the screen ALL the time, Games like call of duty etc need frames for the quick movements needed to play the game as intented, And if you are a content creator then i would say image quality should be a priority, for the viewing experience!
First of wll it matter alot for the frames alone because of the fast movement, 2cnd the input delay is significantly reduced and that alone is a game changer night and day difference, instant response.
@Sideways_Singh first of all No...F1 pro's turn there fps down to 59fps, And I'm sure you know F1 cars are faster than 99% of the cars in GT7, Input delay is mostly down to the equipment we use, and settings within the game etc.. yes I agree we get more input delay at a lower fps, but it's unmeasurable by the human eye..or feeling!
It should be running at native 4k with ray tracing at 110-120fps with vrr enabled. Turn off pssr because if ur good & competitive u get 2ms less input delay, n its a cleaner image with it off. U might be nerfing ur graphics for no reason hit the green button on the lg remote 7 times and see what fps ur at with ray trace on and 120 fps vrr enabled. On the base console it was able to do native 4k at 100-120 fps only if u have a vrr tv and enable it in ps5 and gt7 settings, so it should be doing that with ray tracing plus some more fps easily.
I think the image is better on 60hz than 120hz and I think 60hz is enough for a racing game like gran turismo. But fps games 120hz 100% but to add I did see slightly more sharpness and textures with better shadows ect
Omg. It's doing g on yours too thank God it's not just me but I'm still missed. Now you see. You'll never unsee till they fix it.....if you look to the left at very start on the bleachers....you can see the lighting trying to catch up. Like wtf is really going on...I'm furious and it's not okay.
So is it the ray tracing mode that uses pssr ? If that's the case as far as I know you need a monitor with VRR for it to run properly due to the AI adjustments.. I only drive in VR so still undecided on the upgrade.. a lot of people are saying the ghosting has gone.
Choice of circuit probably wasn't the best for testing the ray-tracing. In that kind of harsh midday light you're not going to see the best of ray-tracing. Try testing it in the wet.
Please note, I've focused only on GT7 and the PS5 Pro - beyond racing there is plenty of additional value to be had in a PS5 Pro but I'm considering that as out of scope as this is a channel built around GT7. For the past few months I've been grinding to earn credits (PP700 24 Heures du Mans Racing Circuit and using the McLaren 650s) to bulk up my collection. I feel like I know this track like the back of my hand at this point and this track is a pretty good test imho as it includes long straights with foliage and dynamic weather. My display is an LG G1 77" which is wall mounted and I get all the goodies, including native 4k, 120hz, HDR, VRR. My rig is horizontally centered on it and I'm approx 5' back from it and my head is nominally vertically centered so the screen is quite large in my field of view. My gaming room is also kept dim and has no glare or sunlight hitting my display. Running in optimized for quality, with PSSR off and 120hz enabled, the hidden menu on my panel shows a very solid 117 to 119.8hz refresh rate while racing even when surrounded by cars, etc. It's slightly less stable with PSSR on from what I can see but still usually in the 118hz range. On the long back stretch (where the two chicanes are), screen draw distance is significantly farther than the PS5. I do think that PSSR chunks up finer details on cars, The Porsche logo script (black on a yellow car) is less defined and a Mazda which has a logo with two white circles in the center of the rear with 4 dots surrounding it has some pretty interesting pop up details that I hadn't noticed previously on my old PS5. The thing with the Mazda happens with PSSR on or off although I think it's a bit MORE noticeable with PSSR set to off. The game looks significantly sharper than the PS5 ever did. My lap times are the same, and I don't feel any lag regardless of setting. I also have a PSVR2 and while I really don't spend a lot of time in it, but I did run a couple races today in VR today as well with the projection settings on/off. Overall, the VR experience IS improved over the PS5 but is still slower than my panel which I think is to be expected. As I'm not a regular PSVR2 user, I don't think I'm qualified to say how much of an improvement it is (I still prefer my LG display). Ultimately the PS5 Pro is just like anything in the performance world. Chasing the last 10% costs a lot more than the first 90%. If you want the best most immersive GT7 experience possible, the PS5 Pro is going to provide it but be honest with yourself about the rest of your equipment before pulling the trigger on one if your on the fence. If your vision is OK but could be better with corrective lenses FIX THAT before anything else. If you have a low end wheel or pedals, wobbly sim chassis, etc. I'd suggest researching and upgrading those before a PS5 Pro if you have the funds. If your still rocking a 60hz panel, I'd highly recommend in investing in a quality 120hz or greater capable panel (and if you have a receiver in between make sure it's HDMI 2.1 capable) and proper cabling. The items above might shave time off your laps and will add deeper immersion. If you already have all that stuff, and want the best, sharpest GT7 experience, then a PS5 Pro is a must.
You will just adapt to VR if you just keep at it. Avoid hilly tracks initially, flat tracks are less nauseating until you adapt. I only ever drive in VR with wheel seat and pedals, so much so I just can’t drive fast without it now. I also play mostly VR games like shooters and Zombie games. Next level 👍
Thanks for letting us know what exactly the update contains. In my opinion, the PS5 Pro is more for the players experience than for creating content. But you're right, best possible content for us viewers with the best available hardware. Great video👍
edit: it's a huge difference between the PS 5 and the PS5 Pro watching the 200 laps Spa stream on a big TV so i relativise my opinion. It's also a big step forward for content creators and viewers
Frame rate 8s orobably the best sepcialy racing games always but since my 4k tv has on 60hz pro has nothing for me...unless mine gets broken and they do a 50% diacount sale
There is really an upper limit to the amount of poligons in a race game. That limit has been reached with the PS5 and any hardware update can only be seen with a microscope.
assuming you buy a PS6 at launch that money is amortized over 4 years which is not a lot, it's like 15 bucks a month or something like that. if you wait for PS6 Pro it could be closer to 8 years or 10 years. It's worth it if you game a lot.
You silly silly man, checking ray tracing in the middle of the day. Rain and night might give you a bit better understanding on how the reflections have changed. 😆
I've been gaming for over 30 years but I've got to say that GT7 with a wheel in VR is one of my all time favourite experiences. I use it to jump into dream cars such as the Ferrari F40 and just go for a nice drive
Yep We need so many more games that use the wheel and VR. Its amazing
For sure - close to pull the trigger on the pro
It is very good, sadly I don’t get a chance to do it as much as I would like
@@ryanwalters6184 we don't need more games, we need more content and players in Gran Turismo 7 to make it the most joyful experience.
They need to add big truck racing, tourist trophy motorcycles, free roam, dozens more tracks...
And most importantly more game modes to attract all types of fun players. Car bowling, tag, cop chases, traffic dodging like music rally....
More games makes for more splintered lower quality mess. Take the best and keep improving and expanding!
Allow options to tailor collision response to be very realistic or very Mario kart like. Make damage the same, have extremely deep tuning and customization...
Why can't I paint my lug nuts yet?!?
Sadly, you will probably have to move to pc to get more vr sim racing. There are plenty of sim games on pc.
120 fps locked with such fantastic fidelity vehicles is just unrivaled.
Free roam locales says around like Tokyo, PCH1, or in the Alps or the dragon's tail to just cruise and enjoy the sights and sounds would be a great relaxing Gran turismo experience.
"It looks so much better" Jon said as he evaluated the youtube video from his 1080p 60hz monitor
1440p from my phone 😅
I was just going to write " this is not worth it" while watching in 480p at 30 fps
Do people still even own 1080p 60hz monitors?
@@jordanscarborough-ht7zxa lot of people do, I just made a co worker switch from 60 to 240hz
😂
Little tip, of you get sick in VR place a fan towards your face. Its tricks your brain into thinking that you are moving forward.
It helped me a lot
Whats the tip?
@solace4114 fan in your face bro!
"ventilator" ? odd terminology
@@provisionalhypothesisPortuglish, do you know it or not?
I have this setup and use my VR2 with GT7, it really is an amazing experience.
Quality mode with VRR unlocked framerate is the way to go. Side note if you want to test the RT mode you should pick a track/time of day that actually has reflective surfaces... 😂
I thought the track lighting looked a lot better with RT on (I don't care about reflections when I'm racing, generally. Nice to have for replays I guess.)
Huge upgrade in vr over screen.
So pleased the VR update came through too. Sounds like it's got better. I was hoping they'd use the extra power for the mirrors to follow your movements.
Wow, the headlights in the trees at night, that looks super good, the projected shadow of the car in front looks fully real time, and the local shadowing in the tree foliage maintains a very compelling look!
I did both modes in vr and framerate is by far the best look you'll get in vr2. The graphical mode has very minimal gains in image. Framerate mode really cleans up the image in vr2
I don’t think that these songs having an impact in the VR mode.
you cant adjust any visual settings in VR, no? Besides the re-projection setting
Is it me,or are the replays in VR much sharper now after the Pro update?
I’m just happy the ghosting is gone.
I got my RUclips gaming recap and you came out to be the creator I watched the most in 2024! I love your content keep up the work and let’s soon reach the 200k 🎉
Great content as always Rory. Keep up the great work man 🙌🏻
You needed to try a night race at a track like Tokyo Expressway to really see the ray traced reflections.
Not sure if what I’ve seen so far wpuld let me justify an upgrade, but I’m still thinking hard about it, though. Glad you’re enjoying it, Rory! 👍
I just sold all my Jaguars 😏
i really hope it effects IRL Jaguar sales!
Nice one Rory, it was always about waiting to see if the VR is a step change on GT7 on PS5 Pro and it seems it is...order going in.
Wheel sim racers will love the amazing feel of 120fps locked.
Controller gamers won't notice and can use ray tracing as a rear view mirror while flying on the magic carpet behind the car.
If you really want to test and check the ray tracing go to one of the Tokyo street circuits at night in the rain. You will definitely see the differences there, also especially in cockpit view.
G'day Rory. Sorry about the stream issues last night. Stuff happens. Onward and upward, catch you in the next one.
You do know that you could run 120fps before the update? I didn't see a big difference in gameplay between 120 & 60fps.
For ray tracing, if you want to see the difference go to track (Nordschleife ex) in dawn or twilight or some nighttime racing on rain. Play around with the setting, try it with and without. The asphalt reflections are much better and more atmospheric plus the light reflection on the trees and signs is more immersive, also on the cars in front too. It makes much more immersive/moodier even though at a lover frame rate. Also, for PSSR and performance mode, the rain spray looks terrible, especially in Tokyo at night, it is a complete mess, but PSSR is an AI tech that will be updated so I hope they resolve this.
I live vicariously through you because I love gran Turismo. I also write, fantasy. And after saying that, do you know what’s really interesting? It seems like that timing, that precise timing of the turns, passing, and all the intricacies one needs to race? Well, it competes directly with the part of my brain that has to do with finding those words just when I need them in writing. And … it appears that it’s only racing games that affect it. And it goes both ways. If I race I cannot write. If I write, I cannot race. That I can relearn those skills is always good, but writing is infinitely more fun. Which is why I watch.
Thank you.
Did the T598 feel better after yesterdays patch?
Hi mate
So you had a quick spin on vr in the end and mentioned it doesn’t make you feel as sick as before
Have you had any more time and is it still nausea free
I did have the psvr2 in the past but sold due to nausea issue I tried everything I’m hoping this pro update sorts issue
I will buy it again if it’s better for nausea now!
I think the frame rate is for playing and the ray tracing is for replays. Having watched both yours and Soarks’ videos, I feel this is the best way to utilise the new PS5 Pro to its maximum. Thanks Rory for getting this to us on the patch day!!
No, ray tracing was on the replays before the patch, they have now added ray tracing to the gameplay.
No there's definitely ray tracing in game and a bump in resolution too.
But as you race you can't notice the difference, it's not that big.
120 Hz it's way easier to notice the difference.
Came looking for your stream earlier today to see how the Pro upgrade is, so I appreciate the tests. I think the ray-tracing only affects the hood of the car, I couldn't see to much in the reflections off the other cars. Hopefully they'll release GT7 for the PC, then I can ignore the Pro. If not, I may end up upgrading.
How does it feel going from fanatecs top of the line wheel base to that weak monstrosity of a wheel base?
Give it 2 months before they offer the 800 quid bad boy
I don't drive on the Nurburgring often, but it looks like it was changed in this update.
So I have tried various modes and I now know for a fact GT7 looks its best with PSSR off at 120fps. I am gaming on a late Sony 4K TV and the image is near perfect. It’s the most stable image as a whole, on my TV. Perhaps some people are seeing different results due to their setup. Overall I am really happy.
Omg vr is so much better ive just tried it. Enabled foveated settings and no more ghosting in gameplay and vr replays
nice video rory
Cannot wait to try this but have to wait for disc drives to come in stock.
looks good, but not paying double , i paid for my ps5
If you never bought an OG PS5 you'd jump like a trained horse.
Glad you got the Pro in the end, I love mine.
Is it that much better than the original?
@@M7ikey7 yes... having to choose between performance in fidelity in most games is awful... most of the time there is huge drawbacks no matter which one u choose. with the pro that is no longer a thing
I agree. If you get a chance look at Collisto protocol. The game looks amazing in 4k60
Where did the live stream go?
Still haven't fixed the shadow thing from the from the car infront. 11:57
Good video Rory. If I could say one thing that would expose the VR2 update is the VR replay mode. That will show how much smoother vr2 it is.
And it's not just this track if your wondering. It's every one almost.
Sparks on my Normal.Ps5 looks like big fire places
Hey Rory, new fan here. Big fan. Thanks!
Do we think there’s ever gonna be an update that gives the option to remove the wheel in cockpit view? It’s been a standard in games for 20yrs . Personally I just can’t properly love a driving game unless I’m fully immersed and feel that I’m actually driving the car I’m in. The wheel moving makes me dizzy. And I really want to love GT7.
I have my fingers crossed every update.
Didnt see anyone commenting this so I'll bring it up: Does the steering feel any different with 120hz? There's pf course a difference when you talk about the monitor's refresh rate and the actual frames per second on the console running the game. If it's 120hz but locked to 60fps it doesn't feel any different. But if it's also 120fps it should feel much more responsive which improves the driving experience a lot.
Feels like a "you gotta be there to see it" type update. The improvements are very minor (because the base game is so solid in the first instance)
Seeing it on a 120hz capable screen is the key. Its much better.
@ it's not much better, we aren't talking generational shifts here or massive poly count gains just better lighting and more particles and lighting.
I think the main thing here is that if you need a better monitor and you'll actually notice the lighting while racing it's an upgrade. If you don't want or have those things the game still looks and plays class leading.
@@glencooley66 dead on. However, if you do have the right panel it is a considerable upgrade. If not, I don’t think I’d bother. I have a 65” OLED with 120hz, VRR and ALLM.
Also, it looks sooo much better in VR because base version has immersion breaking ghosting.
I have a 48" LG C4 Oled. But if playing with VR2, doesnt matter.
"I can't tell" ... "maybe you guys are seeing something I'm not" ... definitely worth $700
You dont need 120fps in racing games, especially well made racing games! More frames are only needed imo if there is quick movements across the screen ALL the time, Games like call of duty etc need frames for the quick movements needed to play the game as intented, And if you are a content creator then i would say image quality should be a priority, for the viewing experience!
120fps in gt7 most definitely helps. Steering inputs are updated at 120hz so your reactions are more precise.
Completely agree I've just said the same thing about 60hz with better image on gt and 120hz for fps games like cod.
Agreed 👍
First of wll it matter alot for the frames alone because of the fast movement, 2cnd the input delay is significantly reduced and that alone is a game changer night and day difference, instant response.
@Sideways_Singh first of all No...F1 pro's turn there fps down to 59fps, And I'm sure you know F1 cars are faster than 99% of the cars in GT7, Input delay is mostly down to the equipment we use, and settings within the game etc.. yes I agree we get more input delay at a lower fps, but it's unmeasurable by the human eye..or feeling!
I think I feel you should have put side by side and used your capture card to monitor the fps .love how much you love gt
This game is something else, reason alone to own a PS5 imo. I know the Pro improvements are kinda small, but it's like polishing a gem
Wat a handful that is gonna at least a couple of months practice on that car it's a beast but struggles to stop
It should be running at native 4k with ray tracing at 110-120fps with vrr enabled. Turn off pssr because if ur good & competitive u get 2ms less input delay, n its a cleaner image with it off. U might be nerfing ur graphics for no reason hit the green button on the lg remote 7 times and see what fps ur at with ray trace on and 120 fps vrr enabled. On the base console it was able to do native 4k at 100-120 fps only if u have a vrr tv and enable it in ps5 and gt7 settings, so it should be doing that with ray tracing plus some more fps easily.
I could not make out any difference with the ray tracing, be good to know specifics of the update in this area
I think the image is better on 60hz than 120hz and I think 60hz is enough for a racing game like gran turismo. But fps games 120hz 100% but to add I did see slightly more sharpness and textures with better shadows ect
Omg. It's doing g on yours too thank God it's not just me but I'm still missed. Now you see. You'll never unsee till they fix it.....if you look to the left at very start on the bleachers....you can see the lighting trying to catch up. Like wtf is really going on...I'm furious and it's not okay.
A "through goes Rory" compilation video would be awesome 😎
very hard to tell the difference on a game that looks great already
Before you got the PS5 Pro did you have your PS5 set to prioritise frame rate?
Which car do you recommend to be the fastest car?
What about VR how does it affect VR
I thought it looked really good when playing, but it was still pretty jolty for me in the video footage...
Did you change your wheel into a thrustmaster T598?
How is the thrustmaster t598 in correlation with your fanatec? I'm interessed in buying one but would love to know what you think of it.
With VR framerate is much nicer looking than raytracing on.
I love VR videos it makes videos come alive rather than so and lifeless.
Perfect review, thanks - buying a Pro for VR
The sarcasm is top notch .
Hi, big fan too
Good update
The frame rate update really does look good!
Can you add me to be a friend on gt7, please?🙂 I am in groupe B S
I already added you, but you still have to add me😃
The ray tracing we'll look better at night in the rain compared the 2 at the same track
So is it the ray tracing mode that uses pssr ? If that's the case as far as I know you need a monitor with VRR for it to run properly due to the AI adjustments.. I only drive in VR so still undecided on the upgrade.. a lot of people are saying the ghosting has gone.
Choice of circuit probably wasn't the best for testing the ray-tracing. In that kind of harsh midday light you're not going to see the best of ray-tracing. Try testing it in the wet.
Please note, I've focused only on GT7 and the PS5 Pro - beyond racing there is plenty of additional value to be had in a PS5 Pro but I'm considering that as out of scope as this is a channel built around GT7. For the past few months I've been grinding to earn credits (PP700 24 Heures du Mans Racing Circuit and using the McLaren 650s) to bulk up my collection. I feel like I know this track like the back of my hand at this point and this track is a pretty good test imho as it includes long straights with foliage and dynamic weather. My display is an LG G1 77" which is wall mounted and I get all the goodies, including native 4k, 120hz, HDR, VRR. My rig is horizontally centered on it and I'm approx 5' back from it and my head is nominally vertically centered so the screen is quite large in my field of view. My gaming room is also kept dim and has no glare or sunlight hitting my display. Running in optimized for quality, with PSSR off and 120hz enabled, the hidden menu on my panel shows a very solid 117 to 119.8hz refresh rate while racing even when surrounded by cars, etc. It's slightly less stable with PSSR on from what I can see but still usually in the 118hz range. On the long back stretch (where the two chicanes are), screen draw distance is significantly farther than the PS5. I do think that PSSR chunks up finer details on cars, The Porsche logo script (black on a yellow car) is less defined and a Mazda which has a logo with two white circles in the center of the rear with 4 dots surrounding it has some pretty interesting pop up details that I hadn't noticed previously on my old PS5. The thing with the Mazda happens with PSSR on or off although I think it's a bit MORE noticeable with PSSR set to off. The game looks significantly sharper than the PS5 ever did. My lap times are the same, and I don't feel any lag regardless of setting. I also have a PSVR2 and while I really don't spend a lot of time in it, but I did run a couple races today in VR today as well with the projection settings on/off. Overall, the VR experience IS improved over the PS5 but is still slower than my panel which I think is to be expected. As I'm not a regular PSVR2 user, I don't think I'm qualified to say how much of an improvement it is (I still prefer my LG display). Ultimately the PS5 Pro is just like anything in the performance world. Chasing the last 10% costs a lot more than the first 90%. If you want the best most immersive GT7 experience possible, the PS5 Pro is going to provide it but be honest with yourself about the rest of your equipment before pulling the trigger on one if your on the fence. If your vision is OK but could be better with corrective lenses FIX THAT before anything else. If you have a low end wheel or pedals, wobbly sim chassis, etc. I'd suggest researching and upgrading those before a PS5 Pro if you have the funds. If your still rocking a 60hz panel, I'd highly recommend in investing in a quality 120hz or greater capable panel (and if you have a receiver in between make sure it's HDMI 2.1 capable) and proper cabling. The items above might shave time off your laps and will add deeper immersion. If you already have all that stuff, and want the best, sharpest GT7 experience, then a PS5 Pro is a must.
Nobody is gonne fully read this
@ yep. I know. Out of curiosity did you?
Right so, if i leave it on prioritise ray tracing/resolution, and also turn on 120hz mode. Will I still get the ray tracing?
New update looks great on my XK89, unfortunately the pro isn’t my rig console lol maybe have to switch, nice tank slapper @ 3:17 😂
I'm always prioritise frame rate
Haters hate, gamers game
Rory out of curiosity how many hours have you accumulated in GT7 I mean from 2022 to 2024 ?
Great video. Thanks
4:34 you pronounce it more like ayghaer Nordwand
You will just adapt to VR if you just keep at it. Avoid hilly tracks initially, flat tracks are less nauseating until you adapt. I only ever drive in VR with wheel seat and pedals, so much so I just can’t drive fast without it now. I also play mostly VR games like shooters and Zombie games. Next level 👍
Thanks for letting us know what exactly the update contains. In my opinion, the PS5 Pro is more for the players experience than for creating content. But you're right, best possible content for us viewers with the best available hardware. Great video👍
edit: it's a huge difference between the PS 5 and the PS5 Pro watching the 200 laps Spa stream on a big TV so i relativise my opinion. It's also a big step forward for content creators and viewers
Wait a minute, 20 cars in 1 lobby? Does it also count when in an online lobby?
are you using the new thrustmaster?
And how much was the pro edition?
Frame rate 8s orobably the best sepcialy racing games always but since my 4k tv has on 60hz pro has nothing for me...unless mine gets broken and they do a 50% diacount sale
There is really an upper limit to the amount of poligons in a race game. That limit has been reached with the PS5 and any hardware update can only be seen with a microscope.
It’s not just about that, it’s about lightning and reflections as well
How does the ray tracing go in the rain?
VR looks great!
Porsche eletric...jimny had. Also know doing la sarthe at night looks like cars in front are burning...lol
Oh and an old f1 20M...so my update was a rs500
does graphics on og ps5 stay the exact same with new update?
hey Rory could u tell me how the thrustmaster wheel feels is it good?
i’m planning on buying it but i wanna hear what u say
hope u answer this
Braking seems to be something you still need to get used to without load cell ;-P Great video once again, though!
Did I hear that right?. You have an LG C1 the official Sony TV
Sonys official PlayStation TV is their own Sony Bravia 😅
Sony charged everyone £700 for an upscaler.
No rt in 120hz mode …. 😅
New Menu Books....there is one!
Try gestikt ray tracing in the rain
Side by side comparison of frame and ray tracing modes would have been of more value
I really want to buy one, but all I hear is "a bit smoother, a bit more FPS, a slight improvement" the thing costs double the price you know
assuming you buy a PS6 at launch that money is amortized over 4 years which is not a lot, it's like 15 bucks a month or something like that. if you wait for PS6 Pro it could be closer to 8 years or 10 years. It's worth it if you game a lot.
ON: Ray tracing OFF: PSSR
Results: 😱😱😱😱
Almost no use for sim racer, only good thing is the VR update. Btw. Grats for the great lap time in time trial
You silly silly man, checking ray tracing in the middle of the day. Rain and night might give you a bit better understanding on how the reflections have changed. 😆
Thought about treating people how you want to be treated?
Was really hoping for some new tracks.
T598?