Why You Don't Need 10,000 Hours to Master a Skill | Robert Twigger | TEDxLiverpool

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @Cornishcelticherbalist
    @Cornishcelticherbalist Год назад +38

    sum :
    it doesn’t matter how often you practice, it’s matters *how* you practice.
    Most masters have learned the ‘micro-skill’ of their discipline. They learned it for the fun of being to able to say ‘I’ve learned that!’
    There are also ‘entries’ to the micro-skills, for example holding your hand in a certain way to draw a better circle.

  • @davidlocke2664
    @davidlocke2664 3 года назад +144

    I'm a bass player and I'm at7,080 hours of practice, and I'm just getting good to feel it. They say 8000 is good and 10000 great and so far it's on par. After 6600 hours advancement started increasing rapidly and if this keeps up over the next 1000 hours I should reach good by then. I practice 16 to 20 hours a week.

    • @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz
      @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz 3 года назад +15

      I would love to hear you play.upload a video

    • @happiness6746
      @happiness6746 3 года назад +14

      @@SAHILKHAN-vk2zz thats the nicest comment i've seen😊...your friends are lucky..

    • @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz
      @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz 2 года назад +8

      @@happiness6746😄 that's the nicest comment I have ever seen man.
      Thank you so much ❣️

    • @kaiothan3722
      @kaiothan3722 2 года назад +4

      I really respect people dedicated to their craft. Just the commitment alone on consistently doing it.

    • @romainpons3246
      @romainpons3246 Год назад

      How do you know you were at 7080 hours ? Do you count every hour ? that's insane. I hope you reached the 10k milestones since then !

  • @bernards6115
    @bernards6115 Год назад +9

    This video is changing my approach to learning forever. His emphasis on how we learn as children by doing and not by reading has opened my eyes to consider a more practical oriented approach to learning. He also encourages us to learn by having fun or getting interest in whatever we are learning by approaching it like how kids learn by experimenting. I cant thank you enough. I am grateful.

  • @beyondallreason-du4pq
    @beyondallreason-du4pq 7 месяцев назад +1

    this man gets me, i don't understand what passion is or looks like

  • @vanille9749
    @vanille9749 2 года назад +13

    The goal of this video is to enjoy learning and be proud of your achievements even if you think they are little the fact they are not because you are achieving something .you in the past you were not, like he said master how to enjoy learning and if you don’t you will not learn anything , small steps with a lot of love can make a huge difference in your life which would lead you to hapiness.

    • @Brukrex
      @Brukrex 2 года назад

      How would one focus on one thing. I literally want to learn everything?

  • @dAvrilthebear
    @dAvrilthebear 3 года назад +30

    Of course there are fun microcosms of the whole subject that you can meet along the way of mastering it. But the problem is that usually it becomes less and less fun as you dive deeper into it, untill you reach an advanced level, where you really start enjoying what you can do... Only the best teachers are able to give the students some fun bits scattered all along the learning curve...

  • @lifetelz5359
    @lifetelz5359 2 года назад +40

    I get his point. Getting to learn something can be challenging because of the boring instructions but his way of thinking is very smart because micro mastery makes a lot of sense. In my point of view, Micro mastery is when finding a simpler way of learning something than the traditional. And this doesn't require 10k hours or spending a lot of money for education but finding a simple way and practicing it every week or day whatever it makes learning better and more than I thought. I tried to find that recently and Im making progress

    • @beyondallreason-du4pq
      @beyondallreason-du4pq 7 месяцев назад

      i like how you call it instructions...now its clear to me what i am not doing right...clearly i wasn't following instructions

  • @makotonarukami7468
    @makotonarukami7468 2 года назад +14

    I'm sure it took me 10,000 hours of playing Yu-Gi-Oh throughout the years to fully master it, and even when new formats, and rules get placed, I found that using Lightsworns are the best way to go, and I never stopped with that deck when playing in ranks.

  • @smarajitpunaykanti6463
    @smarajitpunaykanti6463 3 года назад +8

    Microcosm of science is Mathematics . That's why people good at maths are good at physics and other sciences . I understood it after my college life was over

  • @samuelatancha4591
    @samuelatancha4591 3 года назад +55

    They said it wrong. It's 10000 hrs to become world class in a field or skill.

    • @blop-a-blop9419
      @blop-a-blop9419 Год назад +3

      not if your average world-class competiters have 20 000 hrs experience.
      if you're factoring in competition, then the only criteria is how much your competitors work, compared to you, it's not abstract.
      (i mean there is also the criteria of "how" yo work, the method counts, but I meant, as a quantitative based criteria)

  • @TheIllerX
    @TheIllerX 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty good and inspiring speech.
    When you feel that you can quickly use what you have learnt and start creatively experimenting, it will feel more meaningful. It is a way of directing your focus from some external pressure "I have to become an expert and study for year" to internal motivation where you curiosity is the driving force.

  • @aloksen626
    @aloksen626 3 года назад +18

    I think this type of learning is quite compatible with current internet based self study culture.

  • @HARI-nm2iz
    @HARI-nm2iz Год назад +3

    Yes to micro mastery yes to life thank you

  • @kalanzartwork7323
    @kalanzartwork7323 7 месяцев назад +2

    Just over 4,000 hours in billiards, found my passion late in life. But I’m always tryna get 4 hours a day at least for the next 5 yrs

  • @Self-taughtJay
    @Self-taughtJay 2 года назад +7

    Life is experiments and experiences

  • @Kobe29261
    @Kobe29261 3 года назад +4

    We give kids breaks during school because we KNOW what they are doing in between is no fun.
    Learning can be fun and challenging - about nobody has figured how to accomplish this!

  • @thisguyfks9250
    @thisguyfks9250 Год назад +3

    People don’t understand the 10,000 hour rule. They hear 10,000 and lose their minds and don’t think about what the rule is telling you.

  • @rowanhodges2678
    @rowanhodges2678 4 года назад +22

    Facts af, it only took me like 3 minutes to become a disappointment

  • @Chxhsg662
    @Chxhsg662 3 года назад +6

    Holding the water bottle upside down is really bothering me idk why

  • @JenNagleInk
    @JenNagleInk 5 лет назад +5

    He is talking about Aspie's

  • @samuraiking7
    @samuraiking7 4 года назад +2

    thank you

  • @bobbysworld281995
    @bobbysworld281995 2 года назад +7

    Practice Makes Perfect
    Perfect needs Love
    Love your Practice
    Master self-love to Practice Perfection

  • @stephenher
    @stephenher 4 года назад +2

    I recently ran into futures and stocks trading; what would be the micro-mastery of trading skills?

    • @kent8728
      @kent8728 4 года назад +4

      First, you have to master yourself.. Being patience, being discipline, and master your skills and craft in trading. Like managing your risk, your analysis, reading the chart. Etc.

    • @stephenher
      @stephenher 4 года назад

      Kent exactly

    • @gilbertcandco
      @gilbertcandco 3 года назад +3

      @@stephenher Very tight stops, cut your losses immediately, stay in trends as long as possible. You may stand a chance doing this.

    • @evanever
      @evanever 2 года назад

      I don't think there are any. It's not really possible to become a master of something that relies on chance.

  • @jdm3656
    @jdm3656 4 года назад +6

    Excellent video with very thought-provoking ideas, an impressive achievement for such a short watch.

  • @owendigity1581
    @owendigity1581 4 года назад +14

    Only took one minute to realize that this guy grew up with a trustfund.

  • @sakurious_1147
    @sakurious_1147 3 года назад +1

    If you want to be better at law, what would be the micro-mystery for that?

    • @bufdud4
      @bufdud4 2 года назад +3

      Argue with people I guess

    • @jbernardo3384
      @jbernardo3384 2 года назад +4

      Knowing why is that law created. Thinking about the day to day life of people without such legislation.

  • @thompsonevergreen8006
    @thompsonevergreen8006 Год назад +2

    Disturbed me that he was walking around with an empty water botlle and holding it upside down

  • @vishalsnayak
    @vishalsnayak 2 года назад

    Instead of focussing on completing 10000 hours focus on completing an hour today cause people who vompleted those 10000 hours never focussed on it...

  • @hyperdiper5067
    @hyperdiper5067 5 лет назад +8

    I wanna see Gordon Ramsey's reaction while hearing from this man that Gordon isn't good at making omelette 😂😂😂

  • @suizaband
    @suizaband Год назад

    cutting oileve oil with butter? are you serious? olive oil is gold is like cutting an spanish wine with water

  • @ГітаЗахир
    @ГітаЗахир 4 года назад +4

    What if I want to learn physics ? What is the omelet of physics ?

    • @priyanshu5098
      @priyanshu5098 4 года назад +2

      what I do is I force myself to think about the application of physics, think about flow rate and equations of fluid dynamics when you are taking a shower the next time, or maybe science behind tornadoes or equations of thermodynamics when you are sitting in air conditioner. You can go on!

    • @Kobe29261
      @Kobe29261 3 года назад +1

      @@priyanshu5098 Your answer can be summed up as 'be inspired' and for most people this will depend on a mentor/teacher. Passion is contagious; at least 1/2 of teachers would prefer to do be doing something else; you can see this in the quality and motivation of students

    • @smarajitpunaykanti6463
      @smarajitpunaykanti6463 3 года назад

      The micro omlette of physics is being good at maths

  • @mohdiqbal2120
    @mohdiqbal2120 Год назад +1

    Is it a really works

  • @kchuaw4500
    @kchuaw4500 2 года назад

    Feel like being cheated

  • @pinny492
    @pinny492 Год назад

    In fact, 10,000 hours is no where near sufficient. It could be 3,000 hours or 30,000 hours. Depends on the Talent of the individual....

    • @Yo-ey4ue
      @Yo-ey4ue 7 месяцев назад +1

      Wrong

    • @godly1372
      @godly1372 2 месяца назад

      @@Yo-ey4ue how come?

    • @lagracemomotemgoua9711
      @lagracemomotemgoua9711 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@godly1372the point is not talent but practice. Studies have shown that practice beats talent everytime. So saying it depends on the talent of the individual shows you missed the point.

  • @Mzansi74
    @Mzansi74 2 года назад +2

    There are no shortcut. Trying to "beat" the 10000 hours is a sign that you are not destined to become a master.

  • @FiveTwo_Nick
    @FiveTwo_Nick Год назад +1

    I've been breathing for more than 240 000 hours now and I'm still no expert...

  • @votrungtinh4958
    @votrungtinh4958 4 года назад +7

    bs talk

  • @Mr.BVogel
    @Mr.BVogel 7 месяцев назад

    I appreciate his philosophy very much. This is inspiring for hobbies and enjoying life and simply enjoying learning something new.
    However.. we must be careful because this is clearly misleading and NOT mastery of an art and not to be compared to that topic, which is what the 10,000 hour rule was referring to - a deep mastery of an entire field / art form.
    The title of this talk should be changed IMO.
    Otherwise, I appreciate his inspiration to just go learn something new and get skilled at it!

  • @mikarocke4747
    @mikarocke4747 3 года назад

    The harmonious eggnog bodily itch because condor chemically buzz astride a hallowed bonsai. careful, cool cheese

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum Год назад +1

    I disagree with the title, I get his point but if you really want to be great at something you better do it as much as you can, who you rather hire a drummer who barely practice or a drummer that has 10,000 hours of practice?
    Who will win a fight between a mma fighter that trains three days a week or a guy who goes to the gym twice a day 6 days a week?
    Is simple you want to be the best then do the grinding first

    • @raven-sf3di
      @raven-sf3di Год назад

      And why would you want to be the best ?
      You don't need to be the best writer before you write your book.
      a lot of mid level book writers can make enough money to support themselves.
      You don't need the best drummer to work in the music industry
      And who is the better fighter ,the one who spends all his time in the gym on the bags ,or the one who spends his limited time in the ring.
      A good example are old ace pilots , they became the best because they were pushing themselves to new levels during practice (showing off) and then transferred those skills to combat ,they didn't become aces because they did the same thing for a long time