Renegades React to... Epic Rap Battles of History - J. R. R. Tolkien vs. George R. R. Martin
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"It's fantasy, not everyone has to die," comes from the guy who fought in one of the bloodiest battles of WWI. "Kill everyone in your novels," comes from the guy who refused to fight in Vietnam.
Tina Haines ?
Damn. You made a great point. I can't believe I didn't look at it that way.
And not to get too deep but that was kind of Tolkien’s whole deal - he’d seen war, and blood, and death, and he wanted to write a story about hope and fellowship and the power of love saving the day instead. Can’t say I blame him.
@@fungusmoon yeah this dudes ltiearlly a joke tolkeins whole point of fantasy is that its meant to be unrealistic lmao
That was kind of Martin’s point though. How pointless war is and how so many people die at the command of someone else and for someone else’s selfish cause.
Martin spit a song of Ice and Fire...but Tolkien went There and Back Again.
+chris shultz (DeCaro91) You complete me...no homo...
This FTW!
GG
Tolkien is always better; I like his work better
chris shultz NICE
I thought Tolkien won when he mentioned cutting his teeth in the Battle of the Somme. That battle was more horrific even then the battles in Tolkiens or Martins books. And if you are going to write a book that includes soldiers, wars, and killing, Tolkien actually knows about it, he isn't just imaging how it would go.
Yeah! Also fun fact after watching Peter Jacksons newer film "They Shall Not Grow Old" he mentions how his grandfather fought in that same battle, so it's possible they could've fought together which I think is pretty neat.
7:06 As a reminder, the Battle of Somme was one of the bloodiest battles on Earth - and it served to motivate Tolkien to write the hope-filled stories we know of today.
MrAuthor3DS Tolkien won easy, the line about George having to send a raven to his toes finished him
@MrAuthor3DS Switch I could be wrong but I like to think that Tolkien writing The Lord of the Rings and the entire lore of Middle Earth was a way for him to overcome PTSD, it's not confirmed that he had PTSD but given what he wrote in the books it sounds like he was going through it and the books helped him cope.
You cant reach this *Fellow*
Shit, I'm *Two-Tower* ing
'Cause every time I battle, It's *Return of the King*
They just fit every LOTR book into one verse...
But He didn't go *There and Back Again*
The *Fellowshit!*
@@teamcybr8375 lol fellowship pun
I guess you could say it was a *Clash of Kings*
@@Cov1ngtonsGhOst His has gone there and back again with his rap.
That Vietnam line whooped George's ass lol
The difference between Renegades react and other "Reaction" channel
The renegades actually know what they're watching, and what the context is, i rarely see any reactors actually getting all the reference in this ERB, they usually just litsen to the rhyme and basic stuff, they treat it like its a rap video, you guys actually breaks down the video, every reference, ever burn, you explain the story behind each of those, and that's mainly what makes your video a lot more interesting than other, Keep up the good work,
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of reaction channels in general, but I love this one.
True, I've had enough of people reacting with only "oh, nice beat" and "fat joke, this is the best".
Or even worse, some people filming themselves looking like dead fish watching a vid
Agreed. Even I disagreed about renegade's some points , Still they are totally reasonable. They know how to talk about contents .
Watch BSH
He has a degree in film and knows a lot about history.
While meant to be a burn, I felt that Martin's statement "tell your all seeing eye to find some sex in your movies," while meaning to burn Tolkien, back fired, because you're basically admitting at that point that you need sex in your work in order to make it popular, Tolkien made his super popular without sex.
Thought the same way lol
10/10 best comment
I don't even know you and I'm proud of you.
Catholic_thinker i think that was ERB poking fun at Martin..but I don't think Martin actually needs sec
in GRRM's a Song of Ice and Fire, there isn't much sex.
Led Zeppelin isn't the only metal band to pay homage to Tolkien. Rhapsody of Fire, Blind Guardian, and even Sabaton have made songs based on Tolkien's work. That was before Sabaton became a History Metal band. \m/
wind rose
Do not forget Summoning. That band is fully based on Tolkien.
Imagine being so legendary that very famous rock bands wrote songs about your work.
Led Zeppelin's not exactly metal.
Sabaton made only one song, but it was amazing. Shadows is one of my favorite songs of all time.
TBH Tolkien won it for me with the "It's fantasy, it's not supposed to be realistic" lines.
Calling someone out because their fantasy series isn't realistic is stupid.
Martin was calling him out on how obvious the ends of his books are,making them too predictable, thus making them boring.
Ninja NikNik boring for us (nerds on internet) in tolkien time this was gold ,, all fantasies were small like a prince who saves the princess,, but tolkien opened a world for example (the prince and who is his father and his grandfather and how his family was created and the wars they fought and the name of his family members and what they achieved) everything he wrote had a back story and the back story had another back story,, he literally created worlds so I really don't see how setting down and reading the book that literally started it all is boring not to mention anyone in around 120 years has hardly created a story as deep as lotr ,, few like (song of ice and fire /the witcher/Harry potter) achieved his level that's why tolkien won!
hassam Kkkk Except Harry Potter's world is a bunch of cheap puns and in-jokes held together with Sellotape.
Terry Pratchett and Piers Anthony did joke fantasy so much better it's not even funny.
Alex Snitzer although i love Harry Potter and j.k rowling she definitely doesn't standout as much as grrm and Andrzej Sapkowski,, I actually like piers but he's too old school for me,, i can hardly remember the last time I checked one of his novels ,, I confidently believe that Andrzej Sapkowski is the shining star between them and the closest to tolkien
hassam Kkkk Sorry I never noticed your reply. What I meant was that it's pretty cliché to have the good guys always win with a few minorly suprising casualties
"George R.R. Martin built a beautiful sandcastle, but Tolkein build the sandbox that Martin was playing in."
"Every time I battle, it's return of the king!"
You can’t reach this fellow, shit (fellowship)
I’m too towering (two towers)
J R.R. Tolkien won, George had some nice bars but Tolkien sent him packing.
^This.
"every time I battle it's return of the king"
"i'm more rock n' roll than you've ever been, don't believe me? ask led zepplin" that was the winning line
"larp your ass through vietnam"
lmao
That line is why I feel Martin won. Its hypocritical because of how nerdy larping is seen as. Tolkiens work is so much more of a fantasy that his line applies to himself more. I also like the tree branch line, and im into punk as opposed to rock so some of his lines didn't hit me right.
Tolkien won his burns were deeper :)
Summoning Led Zeppelin automatically wins any battle.
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Nope
@@bradypicavet7449Yep
That name drop of C.S. Lewis was smooth as fuck. That plus "I'm number one and two, you're under 50 shades of gray" absolutely sealed it
"you know, C. S. lewis and i were just discussing how you and jon snow, both know nothing!!
I thought that Tolkien won, mainly because out of the two Martin went more for profanities and things like "I have sex, you not", while Tolkiens attacks were more on an intellectual and artistic level.
He literally called him fat...
@@tobymartin2137 oh but it was a good fat joke, and Martin's rebuttal was "your fat jokes are worse than your pipe smoke" not to mention "I'm number 1 and 2 you're under 50 Shades of Grey"
@@dejanf8168 technically Tolkien had two. myopic manatee can also be taken as a fat joke. but it's kinda settle.
@@tobymartin2137 tbf he is
As much as I enjoy GoT.... LOTR is what got me into fantasy....So J.R.R. Tolkien is the ultimate for me.
My mom read me LotR when I was a baby. ; )
I'm kind've sorry to say, but it wasn't Tolkien that got me into fantasy, it was Terry Brooks. I wasn't really into reading fantasy, or anything at all to be honest, before high school. Then I saw Brooks' _Elf Queen of Shannara_ sitting on the school library's shelf and picked it up because it had Elves in it. Almost two decades later and I have all 14 of his Shannara novels. I need to read Tolkien's LoTR books, though, I've been meaning do that for some time now.
+Chakat Stripedfur They're a really good read.
I have the books in storage somewhere, I just need to dig them out. I have the ones that have the movie covers, though, so I really hope they're not just book adaptations of the movie, and are the original books just with movie covers. I really hate it when people take movies that are based on books, then make book adaptations of those movies, then try to convince you that those are the original books when they're not. Tolkien had a very unique writing style, and I want to read what _he_ wrote, not what someone else wrote based off the movies.
Me to
tolkien's first verse was FIRE! he could have walked away a winner after that, but was just being polite by sticking around til the end.
A true gentleman, through and through. ;D
I have to say Tolkien won hands down. Martin spent most of his first verse praising the depth of Tolkien's world. Also, if you look at the biggest hits on each side, Martin's biggest hit is that fantasy names sound funny while Tolkien's biggest hit was Martin selling less than 50 Shades. The one place Martin was better was his flow in the foot fetish verse.
Tolkien also won due to the Somme part. He was a soldier with balls so he is correct in saying it's hard to take criticism from someone like Martin.
+Brandon Layne who larped his ass through Vietnam
6:25 Notice Jon Snow being revived in the background? This rap battle came out close to the time that that actually happened in Game of Thrones.
I'm only here for Micah's beard.
>xD
same..That beautiful beard. XD
+Natake I have a friend who looks a hell of a lot like Micah. Beard and all. XD
I'm only here because micah's name is micah
His beard opened the door. Their comradeship and on pint commentary shut it closed behind me hahahaha
For the haters, I'd rather watch 20 minutes of them talking and reacting than 4 minutes of, "We are watching this." Give a small review and the video ends. Yeah no. They have a personality and that's what is needed.
This needed saying, these guys are amazing!
Yeah I agree, this is the good type of reactors.
+Panda Bazooka totally agree with you on this one
+Panda Bazooka I will agree that i don't want them to just re-upload the video. That being said, they should save the 5-10 minutes of talking until after the video starts. I don't just wanna sit there for 10 minutes waiting for the actual reaction to begin. Either way i'll still watch them, and if it goes on for too long i just skip it, but still, it can be annoying.
its called a reaction for a reason, not a repost.
Tolkien REMOVED the ONE RING before the battle started, he didn't need the RING to beat him XD
You guys do the best reactions to ERB because you're just about the only ones who know what the hell they're talking about in them.
And I reiterate: It isn't really a battle. JRR invented this genre, anyone else (Martin included) is just dining on his leftovers.
As Sir Pterry put it "All fantasy writers sit on Mount Tolkien."
The guy in the middle looks like he might be absorbed by the guys on either side of him at any moment.
5:33
+Jacob Lee who's caleb? is he the one who's never there anymore
+Jesus Prieto yeah
thank you
Hey Caleb where ya been?
+soulmoonblue why does everyone say thanks caleb
why does everyone overlook the too towering(two towering) line?
I got it like the third time watching.
thank you! someone gets it
+Michael Hayes Yeahhh, it's not too difficult to pick up.
i think it is hard to pick up two towers
+Michael Hayes Don't forget "Everytime i battle it's return of the king" (Return of the king)
Best part for me : the writers of the script actually read the Silmarillions. A book of the whole LORT world not just the ''European LOTR wars'' but also some other things, like the elfs going to middle-earth, meeting dwarfs, the elf-dwarf wars. Morgoth/melkor. and my own favourite : An army of Balrogs attacking the gigantic city.
Who else thinks that the fire line"Lift up my gut and tea Baggins my nuts!" was the best and funniest line of the whole battle?
Me thanks for not being stupid
@@bradypicavet7449 you are welcome!lol
I'd have to throw my vote in with Tolkien. He is the Lord of the Fantastical Rings.
Did i dream or did anyone else see that around 06:27 John Snow came back from the dead just like he did in the series? Loving the detail on these battles!
One line I thought Martin ended up losing on was his "Conscientiously Object" one, since Tolkien pulled it back with a good crack about how he's the one who's been in a war.
Martin's "I'm rock-'n'-roll" line backfired big-time also.
Genuine, knowledgable and wholesome reaction. Keep it up guys!
So glad u guys finally reacted to this as soon as it was released I kept searching for your guys reaction! I'm a big fan!
Lord of the rings would kick game of thrones ass all the time.
eren luin arguments?
+Un usuario random de internet Better book sales? Less crazy fans?
a song of ice and fire, not really
Hmm LotR would have an issue with the Night King. No real counter to the army of the dead.
LotR is just a plot-armor bs, horrible. And...well, sells doesn't mean anything. Trap sells more than metal...so...yeah.
Reaction starts at 90:00
+Brian Rodriguez - Codeninja676 close enough
Hi Caleb
When it comes to ERB reacts, you guys do it best because I like how all of you discuss the video and who won.
Reaction starts at 5:40
Thank you Caleb 😋
+許錦文
Thanks.
+許錦文 hey i don't need you to tell me when the reaction start!
+Kush Sharma lol
+許錦文 You hero
So glad you guys reacted to this as soon as possible XD
YAS!! I've missed you guys yelling," EPIC RAP BATTLE OF HISTORY!!!!!"
I'm so happy you guys reacted to this, and I can't wait for more in the future!!
What i love about Martin is what is predictable is unpredictable. We know he is going to kill major characters but we don't know which ones.
I love you guys, all the reaction videos are like mini podcasts and reactions all on one
i was waiting for this, thx guys :) ,
I really enjoy watching you guys, probably my favorite react channel.
Gordon Ramsay vs Julia Child please :D
YES, DEFINITELY!
+InfiniteChaos Done
Yas
now its out but they have't done 1 one yet strange is it not
maybe they don't know about it......but they better check it out
Guys, awesome vid. And this is the perfect video for Bo. Please have him in more reactions like this, because he didn't distract during the video.
Love y'all RUclips channel wish I had friends like y'all because my life would be so much better pray y'all channel keeps growing
Tolkien won with “Want a war George? Welcome to Shiraq!”
Knowledgeable insight and commentary, and enthusiasm is why I think people enjoy watching this channel I'd proffer. We all know how that goes on many another react channels... *shivers*
So much respect for you guys, when you started saying Gaiman I was yelling "yeeessss"
I've searched for any channel that reacts and understands the content of erb but so far you guys did it the best. Most of them didn't get it
So much respect for you guys, when you started saying Gaiman I was yelling "yeeesssss
FINALLY YOU GUYS REACT TO THIS !
Erb Gordon Ramsey vs Julia child the new one
A little late but glad you finally done it!
"Ho-ly BUTTS"
-Renegades React 2016
you guys are awesomeness. nuff said
Love the Video and the Renegades as well I guess
OK, beginning of season five, I'll watch your entire videos now.
I've waited so long for this... so here... we... go!
+MephilesRider Be ready for H.B.O Dope Ass Programing Ryder.
I always laugh seeing your reactions. Your facial expressions are priceless. The rants make good background noise too. XD
Also guys, TFS put out a new movie and its awesome. You know what to do.
"You can't reach this Fellow
Shit I'm Two Towering
Cuz every time I battle it's return of the King" Stop it man! He's already dead!!!
"T-Baggins my nuts"- Best line from J.R.R Martin
This will never get old ^_^
George R.R: Martin is playing Zork an his computer.
We still need to see Mal Reynolds vs Han Solo
I always wanted all bundy vs heathcliff Huxtable of cosby. Damn though mal v han is a mighty shiney idea.
haha "props for all the props in this" ha. oh man, wait till you see the next one. it makes this one look so cheap.
+Red Ace (Red Joker) They are really going all out with props in this season. xD
What's the next one? I think martin vs tolkien is last, right?
Saba Bezhashvili ...Um, no? This was the beginning of Season Five, dude. :P
Ahh, sorry, I thought deadpool was opening. And mixed up other's timelines.
I can't affirm that it's the case, but it feels like ERB is a bit chaotic with what's in each season and the seasons start and end lines. Especially with the old ones, pretty sure they changed something, and the last season. Or I just missed some update
This battle was so good I haven't decided a winner after four viewings.
ERB specifically puts classic against modern all the time, contemporaries might be more of an even fight, but not necessarily always as interesting, especially if you personally side with the modern one.
The guy in the middle is having so much fun, and I love it.
Have you seen the Goldentusk theme song parodies? some of them are pretty old but it seems like the kind of thing you might like, the Mario, James Bond, Superman and Sar Wars ones are particularly good
tolkien, the guy is the definition of fantasy as a whole, in fact all fantasy now is based on the designs he created, also hes a ww1 veteran, that alone earns more respect
What’s interesting was that Tolkien unlike Martian didn’t write his books with the intention of making money in fact it was Tolkien’s kids who went “hey dad turn that old story you use to tell to us into a book so you could make some money” he wasn’t looking for fame and fortune he had a job he liked, a family he loved there really wasn’t anything else he needed
I usually dont pay attention to the actual raps in erb, i usually just like the song anf put it on the background.But igot to say, this is probably my favorite, cuz the more i hear the "anarchy fantasy" bit, the more badass it becomes
Could you react to the Origins: Rap Battle - WW1 Uncut?
+Rasmus Salén I've suggested that two times :P
I'm beginning to think that there not being even reading the comment section
Your wish has been granted said Shenron
Tolkein won with the Led Zeppelin line alone!
FINALLY!!! Good reaction.
One of the best beats ever
Until you watched it, I never noticed how goofy they played this erb. It was loads of fun.
I like the way Caleb(?)'s microphone sounds, makes him sounds like he's using a ATC Mic or and old fashion microphone.
+Cat418 Caleb isn't in this video. From left to right it goes Nate, Bo, Micah, and Ben.
+calaha717 That's why I added the ?, I tend to forget the others named because we see so little of them.
Cat418 Yeah I understand, I'm just saying so you know for future reference. :)
I love this video
"Back in the New York Groove" nice reference guys ❤️ *KISS senses intensify*
i watch your erb reactions over and over but.
.. how is this the first time ive seen this one? the RR's are good!
Did anyone notice John Snow woke up at the background at 6:25?
The guy in the middle really does my head in.
funny thing is ERB is probably going to release a new ERB tonight
just recently subscribed to you guys. funny as hell. how about reacting to RWBY Chibi trailer and episode 1 :)
guys a new Dan bull video is up and it's about infinity warfare and battlefield 1
please tell micah i love him and his beard!XD
If anyone noticed, Tolkien was removing the One ring in the intro of the rap battle.
The fact anyone would even challenge tolkien is heresy itself
What if your plane crashes into shark infested waters, a shark noms on you and is struck by lightning, dragging down your half eaten drowning body.
metal...as...fuck.
Either the two guys on the couch on REALLY big, like Andre the giant sized. Or that dude in the middle is TINY
Love watching your videos guys, 'cause you don't just react to videos but actually make a critic analysis of who you think won an why! That's so enjoyable, mainly because most of the reaction vids are all about people's expression (which sometimes are kinda freaky IMO) or about "I think X won, who do you think won? Subscribe! Comment!" and that's all. Keep up the good work you guys :)
(Micah, I want you and you beard to marry me right away.)
This battle was more like a Game of Thrones bashfest when you think about it, lol.
They've done another one, guys - this time, between Gordon Ramsey and Julia Child. It's really good
Nice reaction
Someone explain 18:00 Apparently they thought it was 3 things total, with Bad Ass being the real one. What were the other 2 referencing? Think i heard Bad Attitude and there was Indiana Jones music for some reason