Italy winning ESC is kinda the perfect definition of 'The duality of man': Their songs are among people's favourites most years, yet people aren't so keen on them hosting (because 1991 and 2022 are both so messy in so many ways...)
Don't forget 1965 too lmao. The host loosing her papers with her translations and frantically searching through piles whilst the commentators and audiences start laughing haha.
You were apologetic at the start of the video, but IMO all your criticism was valid. Too often the uncomfortable facts abt Eurovision get swept aside because "Eurovision should be about music, not about politics", so I really appreciate you bringing up the "uncomfortable" aspects of it as well (evicting ppl forcibly, russia's human rights situation & its open military-worshipping colonialism, etc.). Also, I don't think this fits in any category, but I still find it darkly hilarious that prior to the actual (turgid) show, russia declared that their Eurovision was "a heterosexual show for heterosexuals". Whoever made that decision (putin?) had apparently never watched Eurovision in their life. :D
2023 deserves to be an honorable mention for the results show. Graham and Hannah just looking progressively more uncomfortable as the crowd keeps chanting 'Cha Cha Cha' 😬😬
@@definitelynotabot1743 It just brings back bad memories. She was trying to quieten the crowd "all friends here" and he was looking uncomfortable. In fact, he didn't need to be on stage as a presenter. He could have just done his BBC commentary from his booth. Rushing back and forth from his booth to the stage was too much. The height difference reminded me of The Brit Awards with Sam Fox and Mick Fleeetwood.
My brain was just going 'shut it' the whole time. Nothing against the song, but damn quit it, not everyone is there just to here Cha Cha Cha chanted again and again after it was already chanté-d...
From Hannah's "GRAHAM NORTON IS SPEAKING; FOR GOD'S SAKE ._." to her dancing alongside the crowd's "Cha Cha Cha" (and me joining them from home) before saying to ignore everyone (sounded bad considering which country won...), the entire jury voting was a treat for what I expected for my first live Eurovision streaming (joined the fandom since half of 2022). 😂😍 And don't forget the Hatari cameo for the jury vote announcement for Iceland. Quick, no "hello Europe, yadda yadda", and to the point in the most unexpected way. XDXD
You may only have released 3 videos on this channel, but you're quickly becoming one of my favorite Eurovision creators! I've loved every video so far, your comments, reasonings, the topic and the editing are all great! Keep it up!
Turin 2022 was basically the incarnation of this old joke: "Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organised by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police German and it's all organised by the Italians." But seriously, from an Italian point of view - ALLORA, what I mainly think went wrong can be summed up with RAI trying to host ESC as if it was a local show, when Italian TV works quite the opposite way: more lax timing (a certain show comes to mind), going big on the aesthetics vs. the 'simple but effective' approach of many ESC stages in the past, which might look 'cold' in our culture, and a better acceptance of mishaps, which might even come across as endearing (as is probably the case for local TV everywhere). Add to it that ESC has only just started being part of our culture again, following a long withdrawal and a few years with not-so-great viewing ratings, and it makes sense how the organization failed to adapt to the standards, unfortunately. That said, Turin 2022 has a special place in my heart. And so does the Huntsman ❤
Same reason why I'm happy we finished second this year LMAO I do NOT trust us to be able to organize something on this level competently, leaving it to the Swiss is probably the best case scenario XD
Gabe: “Imagine a Eurovision where everything that could go wrong, goes wrong.” Little did he/we know, the HELL that would be unleashed upon us in six months time. I wish us all the best for 2025! I wonder how this story will continue.
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Azerbaijan won during a weak year, a weak song winning in a weak year. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise tbh. Even so, nobody really know why they won, maybe the exchanging of votes between broadcasters in a corrupt manner was already happening before the EBU finally realized. Either way, compared to 2009 and 2010, 2011 was a poor year and one to forget, even 2012 was a lackluster event, only saved by an improvement in some entries and ofc Loreen winning for the first time. Tbh the same could be said about 2013 too..I guess 2014 really saved us from further disappointing years.
i doubt we're ever gonna get as bad a year as 2011 song-wise (i mean germany didn't do that bad a job at hosting, yes that stage was WAY too big but that aside it was pretty good imo), but even so azerbaijan winning the televote?? did they really??? i don't think so hun. and yes 2009 and 2010 were absolutely amazing song wise (we'll ignore where 2009 was hosted, but oslo was great). 2012 gave me two of my all time fav songs (euphoria and quedate conmigo) but was meh apart from them, 2013 was just meh in general (but again gave me only teardrops). but we NEEDED 2014 to save the day good god, probably my second fav year of all time behind 2020 (yeah ik don't judge lol)
As a non-european who only got into ESC this year, I've been learning a lot about eurovision's greatest moments over the past 6 months. Fun to see the worst esc moments for a change lmao. Is it weird that I kinda wanna watch the Turin ESC now?
3:35 I think the reason why Copenhagen hosted Eurovision in an old shipyard is because they literally had Euron Greyjoy as one of their hosts. Man needs to park his Iron Fleet somewhere....
Hi! Yeah, this really shows how Turin 2022 was one of the worst hosts. Really sad as the city is quite beautiful! Two of my fav cursed/funny moments are both from the voting phase: In 2003 when Romania announced 9 points for Spain and in 2015 the connection errors, especially with Portugal where the hosts literally said "Suzy where are you" had me cackling back then! Can't wait for your Sweden video, especially after hearing that you love Statements. it's my fav Loreen song after Neon Lights! Great video :)
i'd venture to say that most results shows before they made it so that you wouldn't know the winner before the very last awarded points were underwhelming. "We've just heard that it's no longer possible for anyone but this one entry to win". Such an anti climax.
All the more reason to watch the 1993 voting, all those years of slow voting are worth it just for that one moment when the system (almost completely by accident) truly shined
The other problem with Turin’s clubs in general was the weird paying system that took AGES, as in, you had to queue once to pay for the drink, then you took that receipt to another queue where you’d be given the drink. You were in for a long, unjustified wait if you’d ordered anything less complex than a cocktail. As well as the Huntsman, British, Irish and Australian fans scouted out the other pub-like venue in Turin, the Isle of Skye, forever made infamous in our corner by me knocking an antique violin off the wall whilst swinging a towel round my head during Konstrakta’s song 😂🎻🧼
Before I watch this, I'm already expect Turin 2022 to appear many times as soon as I read the title of the video... And also, that Russia opening act you mentioned caught me laughing... xD
damn, i really love the moscow 2009 opener! obviously the coat situation was comical but i thought using cirque du soleil (which i believe at the time was 50% russian athletes?) was a really unique and culturally rich choice. either way, loved this video!! i've never looked too much into ESC outside of the official yt channel and some artists' instagrams, so it was really fun to hear about the wild experiences at some of these shows (dear god, turin...)
I actually learned a lot about Eurovision history from this video! As someone who plans to go to Copenhagen and Malmö for Eurovision 2024, I never realized how fortunate it was that SVT chose the host city so quickly. I'm surprised you didn't mention 1987 though. Since Belgium won the contest in 1986, their Dutch- and French-speaking broadcasters were supposed to collaborate, but they couldn't agree on where to host it. Eventually Brussels was chosen, and the Dutch-speaking broadcaster was so pissed at this decision that they quit organizing and left the French speakers to do it themselves. Small correction: Frank Naef, the Eurovision supervisor who had to sit through voting antics, actually retired after the 1992 contest, not after 1991.
Cursed award cermony - 1998, Dana International goes missing due to an unscheduled costume change; 1999, International falls over while handing the award to Charlotte Nilsson.
At least it was culturally relevant (William tell) in a time where they just kinda got whatever they found as an interval act and the other tricks did hit, plus the whole thing was satisfying af to watch even if it missed
While I did go to see the semi 2 family show in 2022, I didn’t know about most of the mess that happened behind the scenes but for the small part of the city I saw the area didn’t seem fit to host Eurovision. Why couldn’t they choose Milan or Bologna?
Dima Bilan winning was a core childhood memory for me growing up near the Hungarian borders in Ukraine in a hun village, Believe was heavily advertised in hungarian media, as the violinist was hungarian (from ukraine, like me), the ice skater Ukrainian olimpicon 😁 he was on the telly a lot back in the day skating, but none of us knew english then and commentators can twist things as they want, I still love Dima ❤
There is a lot to be said about Vienna 2015 in terms of production as well, the camera work was bad, there was a close-up shot of some poor spectator's boobs on for a while and they drowned Nina Sublatti in so much smoke during the final they had to turn on the wind machine sooner than planned just to make her visible again. The visuals and the postcard music save it somewhat, but that year did not live up to the great productions that came before
Ok so interestingly for worst location partly I would potentially say Liverpool for a contender. I currently live in Liverpool, however, I didnt at the time of the contest. But ive spoken to people who did and theyve told me one very interesting fact. Whilst the arena was perfectly suitable, Liverpool has a very, very small gay scene (which I can testify to). Now imagine thousands and thousands of lgbt people from across Europe and further all coming and wanting a fun night out in the gay clubs. Apparently it was hell on Earth.
Late reply but it was easier to change a light show last minute than to create new big screen visuals last minute I guess. Though I agree it looked aweful
I lived in Copenhagen in 2014 and went to one of the semi-finals. It's so funny that the location made perfect sense to locals, it's not far from the then most popular street food hall and we all biked there from the center. But for everyone else it's insane how bad the location was 😅 Even though we were kinda used to the whole biking out of town to the old shipyard part of it, it looked really half cooked and not at all like a music venue. Which is also just so on brand for Copenhagen. I guess they really did give a good presentation of the real spirit of Copenhagen, down to getting drunk in the middle of nowhere 😂
3 things 1. So basically Russia and Italy should never host together 2. Israel is further away than most countries that have hosted just before, people will be spending more than usual just to get there. The tickets would just have been another punch in the gut 3. I'd love for there to be a best Eurovision edition
what i actually dont understand is why italy didn't leave the sun on the led side for the whole show instead of the lights side ???? because Surely there mustve been more acts using the leds than the lights right
i think another contender for worst production has to be dusseldorf 2011 because jesus chirst the sound production was actually painful to listen to,,,,, how did every single act have a different thing wrong with their sound ???
Really enjoying your videos Gabe, good job! Regarding the "cursed sun" of 2022, weren't RAI planning to do a Sanremo style chit chat presentation of each artist (that would allow time for the sun to get into place) and were told no by the EBU, that it would take too long between songs? I don't think it was that bad in the end, but it certainly was chaotic because we know what could've been. In my mind 2001 could easily have been worst stage (too big and static, dramatic stairs with no function) and also the rhyming hosts were... a choice😅
the only remotely good thing to come out of turin as a brit was the absolute 180 degree revival of eurovision in the uk (and spain too but it looks like they might be throwing it away...). legit nothing else was good about that edition - and it baffles me how sanremo can be this ultra professional, stunning event (in a tiny arena mind) and eurovision an undervalued, underproduced mess
this was a hoot! although my unpopular (no pun intended) opinion is that i actually quite like the 2011 winner 😅 it might not be the best ballad in the universe but i thought it was sweet it'd be cool to see the reverse of this video as well, what editions did all the the different parts the best. i'm sure liverpool this year would smash it 💪
it's overhated for sure, and it is the shitfest of 2011 (where if you convert to the current system azerbaijan only get 405 points, italy finish 2nd with 350, and everyone below them is within like 2 points of each other), but come on how in the name of bejba did it win?? did a song like that REALLY win the televote? i doubt it love. 2nd with the juries i kinda get, but getting more points than popular and the like is a bit weird if you ask me
Gabe going back to central København from the biggest drunk fest ( we carried one friend all the way home in the nught 😂) that fantastic Pheonix night (we knew he was winning at the pre rehersel , the crowd went wild) you are spot on. AND it rained all night as we travelled..
This was so entertaining to watch. I've been to that spot in Copenhagen for a party once, actually! Very nice place. They usually have a street food place there in summer too. But I can see it'd be suboptimal for Eurovision. Yes, 1991 was a complete mess in terms of hosting, especially after 1990 had been so polished. (Shout-out to the interval film of 1990 though, 'Yugoslavia is like an orchestra' is probably what you say during a bad band break-up.) As for the voting... there's this weird old edition where, a single time, they had two juries for each country, one old and one young, and they always had three countries vote at the same time by raising a card with their number. Not cursed, but if you did that today it would look absolutely hilarious. But also Bosnia in 1993 voting via radio during the siege of Sarajevo. They did what they had to do, but I'm glad that we don't usually hear screeching sounds. And here another possibility for winner: I think the most cursed would be if a country won one year, and then stopped to exist by the following year. (I guess by historical precedent the UK would step in to host?)
TBF If Azerbaijan (and Portugal in 2017) didn't win that year that decade would have been a decade of nothing but repeats, and my pet peeve in recent eurovision is that I barely see countries win for the first time (espcially when Cyprus almost did in 2018, and 2020 was supposed have a first time winner)
2020 was so open tho that you had about 8 countries fighting for the win, granted 4 of those would have been first time winners (iceland, bulgaria, lithuania, malta) but you still had italy, russia, sweden etc.
I wasnt surprised the Azerbaijan won, the looked and sounded good on that horrible stage with the entire Edition having a pretty empty sounding audio mix... At least none of the others screamed winner either
I thought this was gonna be what if every countrys weirdest and most cursed song was in the same year. That sounds like a crazy video that you can still make
Gosh... The SUN!!! I saw some of the stand in rehearsal footage and lots of artist were pissed cuz their shows involved the use of the sun, for example Ronela Hajati had the sun spinning at some point of the song and lots of artist design their graphics in the shape of the rainbow.
There have been many years where the results show wasn't very exciting (I mean in the very first edition they didn't have a results show at all) and especially before 1975 you could easily predict the winner early on, because of the different systems and scales in place. But I wanna give a shoutout to the first couple of years with the 1-12 scale, where they wouldn't announce the points from lowest to highest, but in running order. Like... Brotherhood of man in 1976 were first in the running order, and also one of the winners with the largest % of points available - imagine how many 12 pointers were announced straight away before getting on with the rest!
The water feature in Turin was a total distraction. It looked murky and grey. I thought someone would slip or fall into it. Was it safe with all those electrics?
Love this video. You could say that you didn’t need to make this video because RAI did it for you! 🤣 Turin was epically awful with the Euoclub venue being so far out of the city I got lost going back to my accomodation not once BUT TWICE. I say the Turin embraced Eurovision so much that we may as well have been at an IT conference. Thank god for the Huntsman where I got to hang out for a bit with Brooke for a bit! ❤️
Another absolute banger video from Gabe! Anyways, another nominee for worst hosting would have to be 1983. The hostess insisted on doing the entire show in English, French, AND German, so every transition and the voting sequence are excruciatingly long, due to her saying every sentence in all 3 languages. She stumbles on her words a bit and misremembers a lot of things. At one point, she blanks on the Norwegian conductor's name while introducing their entry and just *makes a random name up* 💀The song quality in 1983 is quite high but the show itself is kinda bad. Also, I think the stage is ugly, it looks like the inside of a toaster. But anyways, there's some more vintage ESC beef from me. #JusticeForSigurdJansen
Copenhagen was my first in-person Eurovision, so it has a lot of fond memories for me. The ‘arena’ definitely had… uh… atmosphere as you say. We saw the family final, and getting back was the wettest I’ve ever been. To avoid crowd conflicts with people already showing up for the final, they shipped us back (literally, on tourist barges) and it was tipping down. Still, I’ll never forget seeing Conchita live :)
Well... this video is horribly out of date. If one were to make it now it would be only five seconds long and the script would just be the word "2024".
I don't know if this could have been helped from the camera crew but during Montenegro 2022 there was a shot where perfectly in the center three people got up to leave during her performance (rude but if you have to tinkle you have to tinkle). She was barely in the shot the main focus was these people leaving. The problem you can blame them for however is that was the clip that was used in every single promotional material for Montenegro that year.
1:54 Preperations
3:29 Location
4:46 EuroVillage
6:27 EuroClub
7:28 Value For Money
8:50 Opening Act
10:05 Hosts
11:21 Stage
13:15 Production
14:19 Crowd
15:32 Interval
16:46 Results Show
17:54 Winner
Eurovision 2024: Allow me to introduce myself
Lol I know right! 😂 He just didn't wait long enough to encounter the most disastrous ESC known in history
Not sure if I should laugh or cry. 2024 was one heck of a messed up heck…
Alternate title: Why Turin 2022 is the most cursed Eurovision ever 😃
I guess RAI was not prepared to host Eurovision 😅 like bro I could've done better with Canva and Photoshop.😂
Nah 2008 still has that title.
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@@morbidsearchI think we have a new winner now
Malmö 2024: Are you sure about that?
Italy winning ESC is kinda the perfect definition of 'The duality of man': Their songs are among people's favourites most years, yet people aren't so keen on them hosting (because 1991 and 2022 are both so messy in so many ways...)
Don't forget 1965 too lmao. The host loosing her papers with her translations and frantically searching through piles whilst the commentators and audiences start laughing haha.
Well this has aged well
Eric Saade just … Hmmmmmm
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Who's here after the Eurovision 2024 was a Complete Disaster video.
Malmö truly said 'challenge accepted'
ESC Gabe: The most cursed possible Eurovision
ESC 2024: Hold my low alcohol beer!
MARTIN WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE THAT AS A SUGGESTION 😀
You were apologetic at the start of the video, but IMO all your criticism was valid. Too often the uncomfortable facts abt Eurovision get swept aside because "Eurovision should be about music, not about politics", so I really appreciate you bringing up the "uncomfortable" aspects of it as well (evicting ppl forcibly, russia's human rights situation & its open military-worshipping colonialism, etc.).
Also, I don't think this fits in any category, but I still find it darkly hilarious that prior to the actual (turgid) show, russia declared that their Eurovision was "a heterosexual show for heterosexuals". Whoever made that decision (putin?) had apparently never watched Eurovision in their life. :D
Might have to re-make this video now my friend 🤪
2023 deserves to be an honorable mention for the results show. Graham and Hannah just looking progressively more uncomfortable as the crowd keeps chanting 'Cha Cha Cha' 😬😬
Also, he looked really short standing next to her and that looked weird.
@@ar50000That's a strange thing to criticize.
@@definitelynotabot1743 It just brings back bad memories. She was trying to quieten the crowd "all friends here" and he was looking uncomfortable. In fact, he didn't need to be on stage as a presenter. He could have just done his BBC commentary from his booth. Rushing back and forth from his booth to the stage was too much. The height difference reminded me of The Brit Awards with Sam Fox and Mick Fleeetwood.
My brain was just going 'shut it' the whole time. Nothing against the song, but damn quit it, not everyone is there just to here Cha Cha Cha chanted again and again after it was already chanté-d...
From Hannah's "GRAHAM NORTON IS SPEAKING; FOR GOD'S SAKE ._." to her dancing alongside the crowd's "Cha Cha Cha" (and me joining them from home) before saying to ignore everyone (sounded bad considering which country won...), the entire jury voting was a treat for what I expected for my first live Eurovision streaming (joined the fandom since half of 2022). 😂😍
And don't forget the Hatari cameo for the jury vote announcement for Iceland. Quick, no "hello Europe, yadda yadda", and to the point in the most unexpected way. XDXD
Martin Österdahl: * writes down *
You may only have released 3 videos on this channel, but you're quickly becoming one of my favorite Eurovision creators! I've loved every video so far, your comments, reasonings, the topic and the editing are all great! Keep it up!
Thank you so much!! This comment made my evening ☺️
"imagine a Eurovision where everything that can go erong goes wrong"
Ive seen everything RAI ever did
Obviously at the time we knew how terribly done Turin 2022 was, but looking back on it just a year and a half later, its WILD how it was THAT bad
Turin 2022 was basically the incarnation of this old joke: "Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organised by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lovers Swiss, the police German and it's all organised by the Italians."
But seriously, from an Italian point of view - ALLORA, what I mainly think went wrong can be summed up with RAI trying to host ESC as if it was a local show, when Italian TV works quite the opposite way: more lax timing (a certain show comes to mind), going big on the aesthetics vs. the 'simple but effective' approach of many ESC stages in the past, which might look 'cold' in our culture, and a better acceptance of mishaps, which might even come across as endearing (as is probably the case for local TV everywhere). Add to it that ESC has only just started being part of our culture again, following a long withdrawal and a few years with not-so-great viewing ratings, and it makes sense how the organization failed to adapt to the standards, unfortunately.
That said, Turin 2022 has a special place in my heart. And so does the Huntsman ❤
Btw Italian food is WAYYYYYY better than French food
0:01 this is indeed a statement, in light of recent... happenings
Malmo 24 says, “howdy…, please hold my beer…”
Another great video! I swear, 2022 has made me want to root for Italy to always be runners up, never more
This is one of the most stupid thing that someone can say if the rules say that the winner can host the show 💀💀💀
Same reason why I'm happy we finished second this year LMAO I do NOT trust us to be able to organize something on this level competently, leaving it to the Swiss is probably the best case scenario XD
You should do the opposite; the most blessed eurovision. For the voting, i recommend you add the moment in 1993 when bosnia votes
that was special
Martin Osterdahl:
"hold my beer"
Gabe: “Imagine a Eurovision where everything that could go wrong, goes wrong.”
Little did he/we know, the HELL that would be unleashed upon us in six months time.
I wish us all the best for 2025! I wonder how this story will continue.
Azerbaijan won during a weak year, a weak song winning in a weak year. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise tbh. Even so, nobody really know why they won, maybe the exchanging of votes between broadcasters in a corrupt manner was already happening before the EBU finally realized. Either way, compared to 2009 and 2010, 2011 was a poor year and one to forget, even 2012 was a lackluster event, only saved by an improvement in some entries and ofc Loreen winning for the first time. Tbh the same could be said about 2013 too..I guess 2014 really saved us from further disappointing years.
i doubt we're ever gonna get as bad a year as 2011 song-wise (i mean germany didn't do that bad a job at hosting, yes that stage was WAY too big but that aside it was pretty good imo), but even so azerbaijan winning the televote?? did they really??? i don't think so hun. and yes 2009 and 2010 were absolutely amazing song wise (we'll ignore where 2009 was hosted, but oslo was great). 2012 gave me two of my all time fav songs (euphoria and quedate conmigo) but was meh apart from them, 2013 was just meh in general (but again gave me only teardrops). but we NEEDED 2014 to save the day good god, probably my second fav year of all time behind 2020 (yeah ik don't judge lol)
The first thing coming to my mind is “Italy hosting”
i had no idea about the 2009 interval act... i just checked and that was the semi that georgia would have been in.... omg.
As a non-european who only got into ESC this year, I've been learning a lot about eurovision's greatest moments over the past 6 months. Fun to see the worst esc moments for a change lmao. Is it weird that I kinda wanna watch the Turin ESC now?
This is also Eurovision history if you didn’t saw it ruclips.net/video/_Z3NmZLR-8k/видео.htmlsi=gFSiIo04TfOTtfCF
That is absolutely not weird, it is very entertaining in a pretty ironic way, plus some of the interval acts are just amazing IMO
Haha, the most cursed Eurovision. We can only imagine what that would be like...
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3:35 I think the reason why Copenhagen hosted Eurovision in an old shipyard is because they literally had Euron Greyjoy as one of their hosts.
Man needs to park his Iron Fleet somewhere....
WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE
Alternate Title: I made Eurovision 2024
Its crazy how Malmö 2024 takes like half of these categories
In 2017 Ukranian man wirh an australian flag, ran to the stage while Jamala was preforming, and showd his ass to the crowd
Hi!
Yeah, this really shows how Turin 2022 was one of the worst hosts. Really sad as the city is quite beautiful!
Two of my fav cursed/funny moments are both from the voting phase:
In 2003 when Romania announced 9 points for Spain and in 2015 the connection errors, especially with Portugal where the hosts literally said "Suzy where are you" had me cackling back then!
Can't wait for your Sweden video, especially after hearing that you love Statements. it's my fav Loreen song after Neon Lights!
Great video :)
Thank you!!
i'd venture to say that most results shows before they made it so that you wouldn't know the winner before the very last awarded points were underwhelming. "We've just heard that it's no longer possible for anyone but this one entry to win". Such an anti climax.
All the more reason to watch the 1993 voting, all those years of slow voting are worth it just for that one moment when the system (almost completely by accident) truly shined
Azerbaijan: *evicts hundreds of people to build a stadium that they will never use again*
Qatar: "Write that down! Write that down!"
so basically Turin 2022
Malmo must have watched this and thought; “WE WANT TO BE THE BEST IN BEING THE WORST!” 😭😭
The other problem with Turin’s clubs in general was the weird paying system that took AGES, as in, you had to queue once to pay for the drink, then you took that receipt to another queue where you’d be given the drink. You were in for a long, unjustified wait if you’d ordered anything less complex than a cocktail.
As well as the Huntsman, British, Irish and Australian fans scouted out the other pub-like venue in Turin, the Isle of Skye, forever made infamous in our corner by me knocking an antique violin off the wall whilst swinging a towel round my head during Konstrakta’s song 😂🎻🧼
Like a kermes?
The Huntsman in Turin will forever be the best non-official Euroclub.
Before I watch this, I'm already expect Turin 2022 to appear many times as soon as I read the title of the video...
And also, that Russia opening act you mentioned caught me laughing... xD
damn, i really love the moscow 2009 opener! obviously the coat situation was comical but i thought using cirque du soleil (which i believe at the time was 50% russian athletes?) was a really unique and culturally rich choice. either way, loved this video!! i've never looked too much into ESC outside of the official yt channel and some artists' instagrams, so it was really fun to hear about the wild experiences at some of these shows (dear god, turin...)
Can you do a 'I made the most perfect ESC possible' in the future 🥹
i rather get the feeling that rotterdam's gonna sweep that like turin sweeped this one lol
1993 = **hola**
I actually learned a lot about Eurovision history from this video! As someone who plans to go to Copenhagen and Malmö for Eurovision 2024, I never realized how fortunate it was that SVT chose the host city so quickly.
I'm surprised you didn't mention 1987 though. Since Belgium won the contest in 1986, their Dutch- and French-speaking broadcasters were supposed to collaborate, but they couldn't agree on where to host it. Eventually Brussels was chosen, and the Dutch-speaking broadcaster was so pissed at this decision that they quit organizing and left the French speakers to do it themselves.
Small correction: Frank Naef, the Eurovision supervisor who had to sit through voting antics, actually retired after the 1992 contest, not after 1991.
Cursed award cermony - 1998, Dana International goes missing due to an unscheduled costume change; 1999, International falls over while handing the award to Charlotte Nilsson.
I think the 1989 interval act was cursed, the whole bow and arrow hitting the apple failed.
At least it was culturally relevant (William tell) in a time where they just kinda got whatever they found as an interval act and the other tricks did hit, plus the whole thing was satisfying af to watch even if it missed
@ was it? I found it to be boring as well as a failure.
The two Eurovisions I attended were Tel Aviv 2019 and Turin 2022 lol. Enjoyed them both a lot, even if I understand the issues fans had with both.
I couldn't make it in 2019, but I was there in Turin in 2022 and despite everything I still really enjoyed it!
me watching this in confusion when nothing from 2024 is in the video (yeah, I thought it was a fresh upload when it was suggested to me :P)
Switzerland will probably take the Value for Money out of Tel Aviv's hands
While I did go to see the semi 2 family show in 2022, I didn’t know about most of the mess that happened behind the scenes but for the small part of the city I saw the area didn’t seem fit to host Eurovision. Why couldn’t they choose Milan or Bologna?
Dima Bilan winning was a core childhood memory for me growing up near the Hungarian borders in Ukraine in a hun village, Believe was heavily advertised in hungarian media, as the violinist was hungarian (from ukraine, like me), the ice skater Ukrainian olimpicon 😁 he was on the telly a lot back in the day skating, but none of us knew english then and commentators can twist things as they want, I still love Dima ❤
Only three videos atm and im already HOOKED.
Worst hosts not being Russian semi hosts surprised me lol
I have watched all of your 3 videos, and I have just now subscribed to you Your growth is intense and I hope to see more from you!!
2024 was the most cursed though after the fact 😂 if I don’t laugh I’ll cry😢
There is a lot to be said about Vienna 2015 in terms of production as well, the camera work was bad, there was a close-up shot of some poor spectator's boobs on for a while and they drowned Nina Sublatti in so much smoke during the final they had to turn on the wind machine sooner than planned just to make her visible again. The visuals and the postcard music save it somewhat, but that year did not live up to the great productions that came before
Many good observations in this video. Some of my nominations:
Location: Millstreet
Euroclub: the parking lot in Baku
Results: the four-way tie of 1969
and i’d still watch it💀
Ok so interestingly for worst location partly I would potentially say Liverpool for a contender.
I currently live in Liverpool, however, I didnt at the time of the contest. But ive spoken to people who did and theyve told me one very interesting fact.
Whilst the arena was perfectly suitable, Liverpool has a very, very small gay scene (which I can testify to). Now imagine thousands and thousands of lgbt people from across Europe and further all coming and wanting a fun night out in the gay clubs.
Apparently it was hell on Earth.
I have never watched the opening act of 2009 in full, I just knew about the stuck jacket part lol
0:00 - 0:05 oh no
You should also do every countrys cursed entry
The sun staying on the lights and not the LED side made noooo sense?
Late reply but it was easier to change a light show last minute than to create new big screen visuals last minute I guess. Though I agree it looked aweful
I lived in Copenhagen in 2014 and went to one of the semi-finals. It's so funny that the location made perfect sense to locals, it's not far from the then most popular street food hall and we all biked there from the center. But for everyone else it's insane how bad the location was 😅 Even though we were kinda used to the whole biking out of town to the old shipyard part of it, it looked really half cooked and not at all like a music venue. Which is also just so on brand for Copenhagen. I guess they really did give a good presentation of the real spirit of Copenhagen, down to getting drunk in the middle of nowhere 😂
3 things
1. So basically Russia and Italy should never host together
2. Israel is further away than most countries that have hosted just before, people will be spending more than usual just to get there. The tickets would just have been another punch in the gut
3. I'd love for there to be a best Eurovision edition
what i actually dont understand is why italy didn't leave the sun on the led side for the whole show instead of the lights side ???? because Surely there mustve been more acts using the leds than the lights right
ESC '24: Hold my double standards
i think another contender for worst production has to be dusseldorf 2011 because jesus chirst the sound production was actually painful to listen to,,,,, how did every single act have a different thing wrong with their sound ???
Really enjoying your videos Gabe, good job! Regarding the "cursed sun" of 2022, weren't RAI planning to do a Sanremo style chit chat presentation of each artist (that would allow time for the sun to get into place) and were told no by the EBU, that it would take too long between songs? I don't think it was that bad in the end, but it certainly was chaotic because we know what could've been. In my mind 2001 could easily have been worst stage (too big and static, dramatic stairs with no function) and also the rhyming hosts were... a choice😅
the only remotely good thing to come out of turin as a brit was the absolute 180 degree revival of eurovision in the uk (and spain too but it looks like they might be throwing it away...). legit nothing else was good about that edition - and it baffles me how sanremo can be this ultra professional, stunning event (in a tiny arena mind) and eurovision an undervalued, underproduced mess
Holy shit woow, I had no idea what happened for Turin 2022 except for the broken kinetic sun
this was such a great video concept, loved it!
this was a hoot! although my unpopular (no pun intended) opinion is that i actually quite like the 2011 winner 😅 it might not be the best ballad in the universe but i thought it was sweet
it'd be cool to see the reverse of this video as well, what editions did all the the different parts the best. i'm sure liverpool this year would smash it 💪
it's overhated for sure, and it is the shitfest of 2011 (where if you convert to the current system azerbaijan only get 405 points, italy finish 2nd with 350, and everyone below them is within like 2 points of each other), but come on how in the name of bejba did it win?? did a song like that REALLY win the televote? i doubt it love. 2nd with the juries i kinda get, but getting more points than popular and the like is a bit weird if you ask me
Gabe going back to central København from the biggest drunk fest ( we carried one friend all the way home in the nught 😂) that fantastic Pheonix night (we knew he was winning at the pre rehersel , the crowd went wild) you are spot on. AND it rained all night as we travelled..
Good to see old contest references pre 2000!
This was so entertaining to watch. I've been to that spot in Copenhagen for a party once, actually! Very nice place. They usually have a street food place there in summer too. But I can see it'd be suboptimal for Eurovision.
Yes, 1991 was a complete mess in terms of hosting, especially after 1990 had been so polished. (Shout-out to the interval film of 1990 though, 'Yugoslavia is like an orchestra' is probably what you say during a bad band break-up.)
As for the voting... there's this weird old edition where, a single time, they had two juries for each country, one old and one young, and they always had three countries vote at the same time by raising a card with their number. Not cursed, but if you did that today it would look absolutely hilarious. But also Bosnia in 1993 voting via radio during the siege of Sarajevo. They did what they had to do, but I'm glad that we don't usually hear screeching sounds.
And here another possibility for winner: I think the most cursed would be if a country won one year, and then stopped to exist by the following year. (I guess by historical precedent the UK would step in to host?)
TBF If Azerbaijan (and Portugal in 2017) didn't win that year that decade would have been a decade of nothing but repeats, and my pet peeve in recent eurovision is that I barely see countries win for the first time (espcially when Cyprus almost did in 2018, and 2020 was supposed have a first time winner)
2020 was so open tho that you had about 8 countries fighting for the win, granted 4 of those would have been first time winners (iceland, bulgaria, lithuania, malta) but you still had italy, russia, sweden etc.
May 10th 2024 blew it all away…… don’t know if I should laugh or cry
I wasnt surprised the Azerbaijan won, the looked and sounded good on that horrible stage with the entire Edition having a pretty empty sounding audio mix... At least none of the others screamed winner either
I thought this was gonna be what if every countrys weirdest and most cursed song was in the same year. That sounds like a crazy video that you can still make
Gosh... The SUN!!! I saw some of the stand in rehearsal footage and lots of artist were pissed cuz their shows involved the use of the sun, for example Ronela Hajati had the sun spinning at some point of the song and lots of artist design their graphics in the shape of the rainbow.
There have been many years where the results show wasn't very exciting (I mean in the very first edition they didn't have a results show at all) and especially before 1975 you could easily predict the winner early on, because of the different systems and scales in place. But I wanna give a shoutout to the first couple of years with the 1-12 scale, where they wouldn't announce the points from lowest to highest, but in running order. Like... Brotherhood of man in 1976 were first in the running order, and also one of the winners with the largest % of points available - imagine how many 12 pointers were announced straight away before getting on with the rest!
I appreciate not picking on Rotterdam, but the way they picked on John Lundvik was over the top and tacky as heck. 😢
Fingers crossed the Roop comes back with a vengeance this year. On fire is still in my top 20 eurovision songs of all time.
The mechanical sun looks like the hyperspace engine that opens up a literal Hell dimension in Event Horizon.
The water feature in Turin was a total distraction. It looked murky and grey. I thought someone would slip or fall into it. Was it safe with all those electrics?
12:30 or they could do first half leds break first half lights second half lights break second have leds
Running scared is an abomination
Love this video. You could say that you didn’t need to make this video because RAI did it for you! 🤣
Turin was epically awful with the Euoclub venue being so far out of the city I got lost going back to my accomodation not once BUT TWICE.
I say the Turin embraced Eurovision so much that we may as well have been at an IT conference.
Thank god for the Huntsman where I got to hang out for a bit with Brooke for a bit! ❤️
3:29 how do you not pick millstreet for this one
I loved this video! I need a break one in a while from chronic positivity, which is not sustainable in real life 🤣🤣🤣. Subscribed immediately
pandima bilan took me out
Another absolute banger video from Gabe!
Anyways, another nominee for worst hosting would have to be 1983. The hostess insisted on doing the entire show in English, French, AND German, so every transition and the voting sequence are excruciatingly long, due to her saying every sentence in all 3 languages. She stumbles on her words a bit and misremembers a lot of things. At one point, she blanks on the Norwegian conductor's name while introducing their entry and just *makes a random name up* 💀The song quality in 1983 is quite high but the show itself is kinda bad. Also, I think the stage is ugly, it looks like the inside of a toaster. But anyways, there's some more vintage ESC beef from me. #JusticeForSigurdJansen
Copenhagen was my first in-person Eurovision, so it has a lot of fond memories for me. The ‘arena’ definitely had… uh… atmosphere as you say. We saw the family final, and getting back was the wettest I’ve ever been. To avoid crowd conflicts with people already showing up for the final, they shipped us back (literally, on tourist barges) and it was tipping down. Still, I’ll never forget seeing Conchita live :)
The 2011 winners looked great on stage. White clothes with ethereal lighting behind them. Fantastic presentation.
Jedward for Ireland were a more deserving winner in 2011 than Azerbaijan
Can you make a video about the most blessed Eurovisions too? :D And maybe crown the best one ever?
Well... this video is horribly out of date. If one were to make it now it would be only five seconds long and the script would just be the word "2024".
Gabe casually adding words into the dictionary
I totally understand why people hate it but I miss the countries announcing every single point :D
Turin was the first year I seriously tried to go to a Eurovision and it completely threw my expectations for the future lol
I don't know if this could have been helped from the camera crew but during Montenegro 2022 there was a shot where perfectly in the center three people got up to leave during her performance (rude but if you have to tinkle you have to tinkle). She was barely in the shot the main focus was these people leaving. The problem you can blame them for however is that was the clip that was used in every single promotional material for Montenegro that year.