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Modix Big60 v2: Review After a Year! (part 3/3)
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- It has now been over a year since we first fired up the Modix Big60 (v2) 3D printer. Since then it has produced many many printed parts. So, have my thoughts changed?
In this final part of the Big60 v2 1-year review I go over my final thoughts about the machine after my experiences with it. What's good, what's bad, who's it a good fit for, and more!
Disclaimer: HartSmart Products is a Modix reseller. However, all opinions expressed are my own honest thoughts regarding my experiences with the Big60 v2.
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Great series, you mention you are a reseller but it's obvious you are being 100% truthful with your review and that's refreshing.
Thank you! That's the intention. And honestly, a better informed customer is a better customer in the end, anyway. It's important to understand what you're getting into and have properly set expectations. I'm glad you find these videos helpful!
I'm using 4 Prusa'a to make sectional pieces for a 22" rim print. This machine is the same price as my 4 and I could do it all in ONE print! Save assembly time and costs. I will be in touch this summer.
Prusas are great machines, but sometimes you just need to go BIGger! Feel free to reach out anytime. I'm at ECOstruder@HartSmartProducts.com. Happy New Year!
@@ecostruder I may be buying a Modix BIG-60 V3 next month. Are you a dealer?
@@Jason-gt2kx Yes I am! Give us a call when you're ready, and we'll get you set up!
Hey, this was a great review.
I'm a college student and I've been looking at the Modix printers for awhile due to their scale.
I've worked with a few 3D printers in the past, and have been looking for something that could do large scale prints for a decent price. Like you mentioned in the video the Modix is more directed towards commercial use.
Would you suggest purchasing a Modix as a hobbyist?
I've seen some large scale printers for very cheap, but they seem to max out around 500mm and I haven't read a lot of great things about the ones I've seen.
How does the Big-60 compare to something like the Creality CR-10 S5?
Johnathan, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! This is only part 1 (part 2 is in editing now), so some of your questions may be answered in the next one. However, yes, Modix machines are great for commercial as well as hobby use. The main reason why it's not specifically targeted at hobby users is that most hobby users are looking for lower cost desktop-style machines (like the Creality CR-10 S5 you mentioned). Some of my current customers are hobby users! The main issue with hobby machines at this size is the frame and motion system limitations. That's where the Modix machines shine. But they are most definitely not for beginners. So I only suggest this as an upgrade from a hobby-level machine, and not as a first printer. I hope that helps!
Thanks for the review. 2020 is turning out to be a nightmare but at least it gives me time to watch these videos. Do you know of any large format printers that can print in detail?
Yeah, 2020 isn't turning out very well so far, but thanks for watching ECOstruder videos in your down time! It's not so much that these large format machines CAN'T print in high detail (they definitely can), but just that it's not practical. If you put a different hotend on the Big60, such as the E3D V6, it is capable of producing very highly detailed prints. The problem is that there's then no point in having such a large format machine. If you put a small nozzle and detailed hotend on the Big60 it would take a week to print anything that's even partially capable of filling up the huge build volume of a machine like this. That's why I say it's really not meant for high detail prints--it is made to move filament through its Volcano hotend quickly and precisely. I hope that makes sense!
@@ecostruder This comment has been extremely helpful. I guess it is best not to use 3d designs that have lots of intricate detail because it would just be lost with a large format printer like this.
@@campdw I had a customer print very small objects using a 0.40mm nozzle with an E3D V6 hotend. He printed the parts at 50 micron resolution and they were absolutely gorgeous. So yes, the machine is definitely capable of printing very high detail parts. But in my humble opinion, that's just not what these machines are meant to do. They are meant to make BIG things. So I prefer to run them faster with a bigger nozzle, and produce huge parts that fill up the build volume of the machines. Again, it's not a matter of what they CAN do, but what I believe it is PRACTICAL to do with them.
Thanks for the review. Looks good. Do you use dissolvable filament on a second nozzle for support material? Or do you use just one nozzle for all and break the support off after? Thanks!
I am not a big fan of soluble supports with these types of printers, so we almost always just use a single extruder & hotend to print the part and then break off the supports afterward. Dual extrusion takes a lot longer, is a lot more expensive, and has a higher chance of failure, so I avoid it whenever possible.
Hey, can you please send a set of settings on to the site for different materials
I have 9 machines working fine
Ive had the big 60 for a year and still can’t get it running
Hi, and thanks for watching! This video is about a Big-60 version 2. Is that what you have? Or is it a version 3? Each version has its own Customers Zone page on the Modix website, so you'd want to go to the right one and then download the slicer profile for your preferred slicer (Simplify3D, Cura, or Slic3r/Prusaslicer). That will give you the settings you need for printing PLA. Changing to other materials is just a matter of following the material manufacturer's suggested settings. I hope that helps!
Hi! I have a big 60 V2 also, but I always have trouble with the bed getting tilted after use. I level it perfectly, do 2-3 prints and the front right corner is suddenly a few mm lower than the back left. Have you heard about this problem? and is there a known fix for it?
Yeah...this is unfortunately a common problem with the Big-60 V2. Modix used a 3-ballscrew design which theoretically should work fine, but in practice it's hard to keep the big bed plate flat when it's only supported in 3 spots instead of 4. They changed this when they moved to V3 and the problem went away. Unfortunately there is no easy fix for this problem that I'm aware of. A thicker mic6 plate could help, or a totally different z-axis motion system (which would also require rewiring). Sorry I don't have a good option for you on this!
I suggest that you add some more text to your website product page. Specifically, the brand / model number and more wording indicating that it is for sale through you. When doing a google search for places to buy the Big 120X V3 I didn't see your website until I found a link in your video review of it. With some better information posted on the website, the search engines will pick up on it better and you'll be more likely to be seen by others looking for this printer and places to get it. Also your contact us form, when submitted, goes to a page not found error. Hope this info helps.
Thanks for the feedback and advice!
Thank you for the review! I have the same printer at my place of work. I noticed the filament was getting low so I changed the filament and now the print won't continue printing. It keeps printing a small piece and then comes back to the front, waiting for a filament change. I was wondering if you knew how to fix this so I don't have to discard the print?
Thanks for watching! It sounds like the filament detection sensor is triggering on your machine. If it's faulty, then you can just unplug it to finish that print and then fix or replace it after the print is done. Good luck!
Looking at the big benchy with all that material layed down, I’m wondering, what’s your method for keeping corners from warping/pulling up from the bed? I’m having trouble with some models badly warping when using a super volcano to print PLA pro on a pei flexplate at 50c.
Yes, that is one of the challenges with large prints--those warping forces compound across the length and height of the object, so they can be quite strong on big parts. I had an imprint of the bottom of the benchy on the PEI sheet in my Big-60 for quite a while after this print. But it did stay down without any special settings or adhesives. I run my bed closer to 70C for PLA to account for the heat loss through the thick aluminum plate, magnetic base plate, spring steel flex plate, and then the top sheet of PEI. Seems to work quite well for me!
@@ecostruder Thanks, I'll try the higher temp, that may be the issue.
I have ordered and am waiting for my V3 to ship. Delayed due to Lunar New Year.
Yeah, the same thing happened to mine. Guess we'll have to wait just a bit longer. #GoodThingsComeToThoseWhoWait
@@ecostruder I got my printer last Monday. Today I got a $1000 bill from customs. WTF?!!! Had I known this I would likely have gone with a different printer. I could've gotten more for my $$$ had I known this.
@@hardlife3844 Yep, I just got a bill from FedEx for about $1500 for duties on my 120X. I have filed a dispute with FedEx because they assessed it at 25% tariff as a 3D printer, rather than a lower amount for boxes of parts (which it is). These duties seem to be charged by customs randomly--some get hit with the 25% tariff, but most do not. I wish it was more consistent. In any case, it doesn't hurt to file a dispute as well. Just shoot an email to DutyTaxDisputes@fedex.com and be sure to include the invoice number you are disputing.
Will there be reviews about the v3 and the new models as well?
Short answer: YES!
Longer answer: I filmed the entire build process for my 120X v3, with commentary all along the way. It's a massive amount of content to work through editing and I haven't had a spare second to work with it. I also filmed a timelapse of the Big60 v3 build I did for a customer, then recorded some voiceover to go with it. That's a much shorter video and doesn't give as much detail, but at least shows the build process. I hope to have that posted next week. Depending on how things go I may just have to do a quick "review" video of the v3 machines and forgo editing the giant mountain of 120X build footage. Thanks for watching!
@@ecostruder awesome, thank you
I will unfortunately never buy one from you as im from Europe, but your review is the best media on these printers and the 120 really piqued my interest. Or maybe a 180 if I want to go all out, but if there's little info on the "old" devices, theres literally zero info on the new ones. Like, is the 180 "simply" 3x the 60, with three separate beds?
@@ecostruder looking forward to this. I will be getting a Big 60 soon and i was thinking about doing a video since none on the V3 are around, BUT glad to hear you did one as i like your videos and content. KEEP UP the great work Brandon
we are looking into buying a 120X, with dual extruders. wil dualmaterial prints be a problem? if we want to use soulable support with abs ect ?
and does it work well wit Simplifyer3D. or what do you recommend?
Previously n the v2 machines I haven't cared for the dual extruder design. It used a direct Titan extruder for the primary and a Bowden Titan extruder for the secondary. But the new design for the v3 machines seems much better. It now uses side-by-side Titan Aero print heads. Having that short filament path seems like a pretty great design. I'd still prefer an E3D toolchanger design...but that's a whole different level of build! I have a secondary print head coming for my 120X v3 right now. When I receive it and get it dialed in I'll be sure to do a video about it! As for slicers, yes, I still think Simplify3D is the best option. Others are very good as well, but I still think S3D is the best one available.
Hey Brother, great set of videos. Where are you located?
Glad you liked it! Our shop is located in Des Moines, Iowa. If you are in the area we'd love to have you stop in and visit!
@@ecostruder I am on the east coast. At some point I would like to purchase one of these Modix units. What is your email address?
Could you print a clip/guide to hold the vibrating chain still - side to side?
Not sure where it would go, but that's a possibility, yes. Maybe to hold the chain about halfway, where it doesn't move as much? Truthfully, I think the best option would be to just do the v2 to v3 upgrade that Modix just released. The v3 motion system improves the drag chain placement by making it bend upward instead of downward. Check it out: hartsmartproducts.com/products/modix-version-3-0-upgrade-kit-motion-system-dual-direct-drive. The only downside is if you don't also want to upgrade the controller to a Duet + Touchscreen then it's a bit spendy.
I have version 1 of the modix big 60 and cannot get the bed fully leveled. What was your secret?
I haven't worked with any v1 machines--just v2 and v3. But the main thing that can be tricky about the 3 ball screw setup is that when you manually turn one of them they all want to turn. This is due to how they are all wired to, and controlled by the same stepper driver. If you turn one very slowly then it shouldn't produce enough current to move the others. Alternatively, you can have someone hold the others while you turn one to prevent them from moving at the same time. However, the easiest method might just be to unplug the z-axis wires from the motors and adjust them to your heart's content. Good luck!
Has the V3 improved its dual extruder capability? Particularly soluble supports?
Yes! They are now utilizing dual direct drive Titan Aeros. I still haven't done much printing with the dual extruder setup at this point, but this is a much better arrangement than the previous hybrid (direct & bowden) Titan setup on their v2 machines. I should be printing with both nozzles sometime in the near future and then I can comment on my own real-world experiences versus what seems good on paper.
Is there a way to add the touchscreen and control board of the V3 to the V2 build? Also, is the V3 quieter?
They're gonna release a upgrade kit that brings it from a V2 to a v3
Yep, that's right! Though there are options to add a touchscreen to any Arduino-based machine such as these. Those options just aren't officially supported. There aren't any v3 machines in the wild yet, so we can't say for sure that they are quieter, but the stepper drivers should make a big difference in the noise level!
@@ecostruder With the Duet Board and the TMC-Drivers on it, it will definitly be quieter in terms of the noise from the motors and Overall movements ... fan will probably stay the same
The v3 uses Titan Aeros now, though. So the fan is bigger and quieter than the v2's E3D V6 hotend fan. And, you can always upgrade it to a Noctua!
Do you recommend any course on large scale 3D printing?
Interesting idea. I might have to do a video about that! I don't know of any existing courses focused specifically on large scale 3D printing, but there is enough different about it that it's important to understand. I'll throw it in my queue for future video ideas--thanks!
How long did the Christmas tree take to build?
The tree was printed in vase mode, so it really didn't take super long. I don't recall how long exactly, but not more than a few hours at the most. Thanks for watching!
Ha! Replied from the wrong account. Still the same answer, though!
Hey Brandon - I've sent you an e-mail to inquire about purchasing a Modix for support of a Navy project.
Thanks Aaron! We'd be happy to help. I'll get back to you via email shortly.