Fighting Game Characters who are ALWAYS LOW TIER - feat. LordKnight!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @Diaphone
    @Diaphone Год назад +795

    LK with a disjointed hitbox looking like a Top Tier, love to see it

    • @Mr.Faust3
      @Mr.Faust3 Год назад +33

      Or hurt box it’s a reference to SF2 T.hawk

    • @whizthesugoi
      @whizthesugoi Год назад +12

      amazing that someone else sees it like that

    • @5715klin
      @5715klin Год назад +32

      25:24 watch it go away when he 6p's

    • @ZzigZaG00NIN
      @ZzigZaG00NIN Год назад +1

      Fits perfectly to talk about T hawk lol

    • @huntsworthdoom
      @huntsworthdoom Год назад +1

      @@5715klin real Potemkin

  • @LordKnightfgc
    @LordKnightfgc Год назад +515

    My hitbox is on display here too 😅😅
    Thanks for having me once again!

    • @BurningWaterpark
      @BurningWaterpark Год назад +52

      bro out here low profiling with the hair

    • @D4C_267
      @D4C_267 Год назад +3

      Middle finger emoji, middle finger emoji, and another middle finger. Just for you LK~💕

    • @WeavileGuy
      @WeavileGuy Год назад +18

      that's your ggxx sol sidewinder sweetspot 💀💀

    • @ZzigZaG00NIN
      @ZzigZaG00NIN Год назад +1

      Amazing with the T-Hawk part 😂

    • @numa2k147
      @numa2k147 Год назад

      Always cool to see you two !

  • @thegardner80
    @thegardner80 Год назад +115

    As much as I love looking at your lovely faces, half the time your big mugs are hiding the action. LK: "Look at this" *action entirely hidden behind jmcrofts*

  • @Malao558
    @Malao558 Год назад +100

    There were some periods in SFV where people were getting results with Alex. He was never high tier as far as I could tell, but character specialists were doing some work with him.

    • @numa2k147
      @numa2k147 Год назад +4

      Who bro ? Cause I was doing a spreadsheet and could not find results for Alex. Only two

    • @toberone5158
      @toberone5158 Год назад +9

      I'm pretty sure Alex in the final season is pretty good

    • @numa2k147
      @numa2k147 Год назад +2

      @@KemetShamar gunfight got good placement but only 1 win I think and Problem X won saltmine once with Alex from what I seen. It was Bison or Honda that he won the most with. Alex was still a cool character tho

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Год назад +1

      @@toberone5158yeah he was high mid tier

    • @valushartless5130
      @valushartless5130 Год назад

      @@KemetShamar That was Red Bull Kumite

  • @eddielopez6731
    @eddielopez6731 Год назад +23

    Kanji had to be held back. He had the most devastating weapon of all time…. The Chair 🪑

  • @StrawHatPuffy
    @StrawHatPuffy Год назад +26

    Alex straight up violated that giant...

  • @adamt0987
    @adamt0987 Год назад +51

    one thing jm didn't touch on with alex in 3s is how parry completely counters the stomp. you simply pick either back or forward when you see him do it, and you OS the move with block and parry if you time it correctly.

    • @The_SOB_II
      @The_SOB_II Год назад +3

      Fuck man why can't they make my guy good. Actually was he good in SF3 vanilla (TNG?) I know nobody ever touches the first two games of SF3 anymore but I think the first one didn't have Ryu/Ken/Chun

    • @HiterLit
      @HiterLit Год назад +2

      ​@@The_SOB_II
      There's a channel called riiya who went over SF3 New Generation in exhaustive mechanical detail last year. It's a great watch, and probably the most knowledge about New Gen that has ever been compiled in the modern age.

    • @Copperhell144
      @Copperhell144 Год назад +1

      @@The_SOB_II New Generation has Ryu and Ken, who it doesn't have is Chun-Li and Akuma.

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl Год назад +33

    I loooove these collabs when experienced players talk and compare characters from different games

  • @michaelcarrig627
    @michaelcarrig627 Год назад +13

    ArcSys doing a Persona 5 game would have sold an unbelievable amount. Also, SF3 is one of those games that will look good forever.

  • @TheZiadGuides
    @TheZiadGuides Год назад +27

    These collabs are fun! Next time I wanna see what grapplers are broken in there own game c

  • @tachibanafuudo
    @tachibanafuudo Год назад +5

    Idk how to do this... You are the GOAT in your involvement and your vision. I'm just here to appreciate it. You have knowledge that helps everyone

  • @Kitsune986
    @Kitsune986 Год назад +19

    Me, seeing LK pick Feeeza despite his huge glow-up in patch 1.32: "Does he know?"
    But seriously, Freeza just has rough matchups, i.e. characters who can completely ignore his zoning like Z Bully and Cooler. He's at the very least high tier in any case

    • @Doktor_dooom
      @Doktor_dooom Год назад +24

      Cooler having a winning matchup against his little brother is canonically true

    • @AgentSephiroth
      @AgentSephiroth Год назад +7

      The final patch of DBFZ should not be seen as part of it's history, that was clearly them saying "Stop playing our game"

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад +6

      @@AgentSephiroth
      *1.33. 1.32 was the patch before this one.
      Also, lmfao! I see you're one of _those_ players. The latest patch (give me a source where they said it was the final one) is the best patch we've ever gotten.
      They made the game fun again and literally every character is genuinely viable. Not that fake ass balance in S3 that people swear exists. A lot of people are coming back to the game and expressing interest in it when they didn't care about DBFZ before. Sounds like a you problem

    • @Dan_the_Druid
      @Dan_the_Druid Год назад +4

      @@Kitsune986 Agreed, I think people's negative reaction to this patch comes from an aversion to change. This is some of the most fun I've ever had with this game.

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад +1

      I watched the video and I'm still confused as to why Frieza is there😭. I gotta play this man LK

  • @Anomaly188
    @Anomaly188 Год назад +4

    I do like how ArcSys very blatantly used Slayer as a template for all of Margaret's animations in P4 Arena. As if Iron Tager in Blaz Blue using Potemkin's old X2 sprite template wasn't goofy enough.

  • @VannTango
    @VannTango Год назад +21

    It seems like a lot of these picks are characters that intentionally break the established rules of their games. Even the standard grappler character often violates some of the rules established by other characters in their game (e.g. strikes are usually stronger than throws).
    I think this is the source of the problem. Characters like that are insanely hard to balance, because they're hard to compare numerically to other characters. Either the strong parts are going to be too strong, or the weak parts too weak, and the only way to know for certain is to play 100s of matches.

    • @TheRealSorav
      @TheRealSorav Год назад +3

      That's the theory we've all heard but in what games are grapplers actually top tier?

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад +1

      @@TheRealSorav
      DBFZ, lol

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl Год назад +3

      @@TheRealSoravthe only games I've seen grapplers be top tier in is when they have a win condition that is stronger than the grab (and basically don't have to play as a grappler lol)

    • @TheGreektrojan
      @TheGreektrojan Год назад +3

      @@NeoBoneGirl AKA Broly who's also the games best zoner and has tons of armor on everything (and still isn't top top tier). KoF is the only series that really gives them a fair shake.

    • @piwithatsme
      @piwithatsme Год назад +6

      @@TheRealSorav maybe not top tier but grapplers are generally allowed to be good in kof games. Shermie, clark and orochi yashiro are pretty good in kof xv for example

  • @zanpakutoman4225
    @zanpakutoman4225 Год назад +2

    Honorable mention should go to Sheeva from Mortal Kombat. PNDK&M did a great video about her competitive history.
    The shortened version is she was bottom 1 in all 3 versions of MK3 and MK9, due to her large hurtbox and poor defensive options making it so a lot of other characters could easily keep her out with projectiles, safely pressure her to hell, or even infinite her. In MK Armageddon she was okay at best. Nothing terribly bad, but nothing exceptional. But, Armageddon has like 60 characters, so just being okay is even less impressive than usual.
    MK11 was the only time she was good, but she was DLC and I only remember her being played during her "newest DLC character is really broken. Buy em!" phase. I didn't keep up with MK11 competitively, and Ketchup's video was released while the game was still receiving updates and support. I also don't know how she ranks now that competitive MK11 has custom variations, which kind of revamped a good chunk of the roster.

  • @sketchditty1054
    @sketchditty1054 Год назад +3

    I think a video where some characters got nerfed to hell/fell from grace would be a fun one. An example would be Ibuki got dethroned as a top tier in the transition from second impact to third strike.

  • @scnoz1430
    @scnoz1430 Год назад +7

    Got to do the biggest glow ups in fighting games.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Год назад +5

    I'm glad Dan isn't in here as I played him as a secondary in USF4 and while in vanilla he's useless by the end of the game's lifespan he's arguably not bottom/low tier. Using the S-A-B-C-D rating system I would honestly put him in C or even C+. His tatsu in particular is rather good.

  • @GenderNeutch
    @GenderNeutch Год назад +5

    Hey jm - thanks so much for the video, so interesting to watch : ) I'm curious, though - and maybe you could make an extra video about that?? Please? - what goes into balancing decisions in fighting games, in your opinion? Like in SF6, most would agree that Zangief is low-tier and likely the worst character in the game. There'd be a couple of easy tweaks Capcom could make to make him more viable without him immediately jumping to top tier or being anything close to broken, like his Lariat hitting cross-ups for example. (this might happen in the future, of course) And other characters seem to be top or at least high-tier in most Street Fighter iterations. So what is it that influences these balancing decisions? Is it character popularity (Gief is pretty popular, interestingly enough), is it fan service to make some of the oversexualized female characters top tier, is it marketing, to buff the characters which are the face of the franchise? I'd be dying to hear your opinion on that. Couldn't find a video like that anywhere online, only some that talk about how to balance games in general, but nothing about which strategies or thoughts by the devs might influence decisions in balancing the roster.

  • @GazettiSF
    @GazettiSF Год назад +3

    I’m pretty sure the crouch mp hurtbox is there to make wiff punishing easier and they went way overboard. Not a glitch.

  • @scnoz1430
    @scnoz1430 Год назад +5

    LK hasn’t played dbfz since season 3.5, can’t really blame him for the frieza pick, he was pretty bad until the buffs started adding up lol. Friezas kinda busted now

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад +2

      He's been good for 3 patches I just kinda wish he'd done a bit more research lol

    • @markushavens8669
      @markushavens8669 Год назад

      ​@KJpixelFGC Idk if I would put Frieza as being high tier. I think most of the top players consider him to be on the high end of mid tier.
      Regardless of how you rank Frieza, the fact LK chose him confuses the hell out of me.
      Mostly because Trunks exists, is hot garbage, and has been hot garbage for basically the entire lifespan of the game.
      LK talking about Frieza's level 3 being good. Should totally check out Trunks' level 3. Especially after talking about Alex's super whiffing on a reaction jump to the screen freeze.

    • @scnoz1430
      @scnoz1430 Год назад

      @@markushavens8669 you don’t know what your talking about Lol. Frieza is definitely high tier, he’s just short of top 10 in my eyes maybe higher.
      and trunks from season 3 and on has been high tier to pretty terrifying now, but people just say he is bad because they don’t want to take the time to learn a technical character.
      The only character who has always been mid to low tier imo is dbs broly. He has damage but that’s pretty much it.

  • @INikeAir
    @INikeAir Год назад +3

    I like the variety of games LordKnight brought in this video (:

  • @lilliangoulston5706
    @lilliangoulston5706 Год назад +22

    Would love to see one of these with a Smash content creator, I feel like Ganondorf would go on this list 100%

    • @666blaziken
      @666blaziken Год назад +1

      Zelda is also a contender

    • @docs.a.t.7161
      @docs.a.t.7161 Год назад +1

      Honest Content made a vid like that iirc

    • @bidoofismyking8962
      @bidoofismyking8962 Год назад

      He was mid tier in melee tho

    • @illford
      @illford Год назад +2

      Yeah and he's bottom 2 in 3 games out of the 4 he's in, that averages out to bad. It doesn't help that bottom 2 in brawl is basically instant lose.

    • @aclonymous
      @aclonymous Год назад

      upper low tier in melee, bottom 1 in every game since

  • @anonymoose2474
    @anonymoose2474 Год назад +1

    Frieza was crazy OP in old dragonball z fighting games, but to be fair those games were never that competitive anyway. Budokai actually had some crazy complicated and deep mechanics and frieza was high tier or top tier in 1 and 2. Frieza was like mid tier or lower in 3 though

  • @Kolos1001
    @Kolos1001 Год назад +6

    Love LK colabs

  • @JohnD131
    @JohnD131 Год назад +2

    As someone who really likes playing Frieza, I'm not surprised at all.

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад +1

      Luckily he's a high tier character and LK just hasn't been keeping up with the game, lol

    • @JohnD131
      @JohnD131 Год назад

      @@Kitsune986 I hope that's true, but it also means I have no excuses when I get wrecked by a Vegito. That would mean I just need to get good, and that's real pressure.

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад +1

      Frieza has been a good character for 3 patches now LK just hasn't kept up with the game

  • @markmessi9020
    @markmessi9020 Год назад +1

    That background got me thinking about the soundtrack and little fat kid of this stage in SFIV. Dam SFIV was a great game

  • @justicejeff2108
    @justicejeff2108 Год назад +1

    LK had to put a box over his head to keep the Millia downplaying from getting out. Homie wanted to put her in the video so bad 😢
    Jokes aside I love these collab videos and hope we can keep getting more in the future!

  • @zachstarattack7320
    @zachstarattack7320 Год назад +2

    23:53 huh?!?!

  • @jadendiamondknight5200
    @jadendiamondknight5200 Год назад +5

    *SNK grapplers have entered the chat*

    • @OrtadragoonX
      @OrtadragoonX Год назад +3

      They a whole different breed.
      Clark was busted in almost every KOF game. Always near the top in most of the games.

  • @MrRaposaum
    @MrRaposaum 9 месяцев назад

    Lord Knight became such knowledgeable in fighting games that he manifested a collision box. No hurtboxes or hitboxes because he's not here to fight.

  • @Spr0cter
    @Spr0cter Год назад +1

    Alex in capcom fighting evolution : Am I a joke to you!?

  • @zedeps
    @zedeps Месяц назад

    Alex... WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THE GIANT???

  • @chinopivots
    @chinopivots Год назад

    God damn Alex's fingers are worms man
    That shit is hypnotic

  • @mrblooper1994
    @mrblooper1994 Год назад +2

    Havent seen the video yet, but how fast is T.Hawk going to be mentioned? Too fast me thinks

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 Год назад +2

      even his legacy is cursed they wouldn't even let his daughter cook

  • @luckymanx2978
    @luckymanx2978 Год назад +1

    Why is this man talking about S3 DBFZ we're in season 5 now. That was like 4 years ago

  • @andspn970
    @andspn970 Год назад

    Amazing colab, again🤌

  • @MVKBPR
    @MVKBPR Год назад

    Come to think of it, seems like T. Hawk is the only SF2 character who has never been top tier in any game.
    Ryu - SF2 HF, Vanilla SF4, Vanilla SFV
    Ken - 3rd Strike, SF6
    Chun-Li - ST, 3rd Strike, SSF4, Vanilla SFV
    Guile - SF2 from WW to HF, SSF4, SFV Season 2, SF6
    Honda - SSF4
    Blanka - CvS2, possibly SF6?
    Dhalsim - ST, Alpha 3
    Zangief - Alpha 3
    Balrog - ST, SFV Season 2
    Vega - ST, Alpha 3
    Sagat - ST, Vanilla SF4
    Bison - SF2 CE, SSF4
    Cammy - SSF4 AE (not sure if it's in the original or 2012 version), probably at least one season in SFV
    Fei Long - SSF4 AE (same as Cammy)
    Dee Jay - SF6
    Akuma - ST, Alpha 3, Multiple versions of SF4 and SFV
    I probably missed some other notable placements, but it gets the point across.
    Would be funny if T. Hawk was secretly top tier in Zero 3 Upper or Alpha 3 MAX, just to complete everything, but there doesn't seem to be any documentation of those versions to know for sure.

  • @dracojaco7131
    @dracojaco7131 10 месяцев назад +1

    ganondorf. nuff said

    • @GinkgoPete
      @GinkgoPete 7 месяцев назад

      Ganon was mid tier in melee.
      But yeah they totally hate the character for some reason

  • @mibeador
    @mibeador Год назад +2

    So for the knowledge, Anji is the most consistently low tier character in Guilty Gear. Of all his entries, he’a only been high tier ONCE in SLASH, usually falling into low tiers or lower mid. Potemkin isn’t too far behind but he has a few legitimately good appearances that save him

    • @NeoBoneGirl
      @NeoBoneGirl Год назад +2

      Anji player detected

    • @mibeador
      @mibeador Год назад +3

      @@NeoBoneGirl Kliff player actually, only really play +R lol

    • @vOddy75
      @vOddy75 Год назад +1

      AC pot was too busted to put him on this list, and he's fine in +R too

    • @chillaxboi2109
      @chillaxboi2109 Год назад +1

      ​@@mibeadorMIBEADOR PLAYS KLIFF? damn, that's my main in +R. I am an initiate in fighting games but the character just spoke to me. Master characters are usually low tier for some reason.

  • @sophiegrey9576
    @sophiegrey9576 8 месяцев назад

    Gotenks shyly hiding behind the facecam

  • @anuragbisht1200
    @anuragbisht1200 8 месяцев назад

    there is a constant hitbox on LordKnight face ;D

  • @presenceof
    @presenceof Год назад

    2 of my fav creators tbh

  • @JFLunch
    @JFLunch Год назад +1

    2 Friezas made it to Top 8 Evo this year. One of them was in Top 6. So he's no longer bad lol

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      Bro. Ollie. You do not understand how absolutely flabberghasted I was to see Frieza in the thumbnail of this video like what💀

    • @JFLunch
      @JFLunch Год назад

      @@KJpixelFGC to be fair, LK and JM Crofts stopped playing before the Fusion Meta patch and Lab Coat dropping. It's only the recent patches where he's been okay but with team syngery problems to now really solid with great assists. So they both completely missed this. To be fair, Frieza was struggle bus for SO MANY patches, like jfc lol

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      @@JFLunch I know. I just wish they'd done more research. Also isn't LK literally a Trunks player? Why no Trunks? He'd be good for this video😭

    • @JFLunch
      @JFLunch Год назад

      @@KJpixelFGC You have a fantastic point. That character went from okay to forever bottom 5 with players mad carrying HIM lol

  • @keeneyedentertainment
    @keeneyedentertainment Год назад

    I know LK put down FighterZ (still wish he’d come back) but seeing the disconnect on how good of a zoner Frieza is now kinda hurt ngl. This character is a problem.

  • @Yawdan
    @Yawdan Год назад

    Mr "BEEN HAD Tournament Wins", Lord "Lord Knight" Knight himself 😂

  • @Tungdil_01
    @Tungdil_01 Год назад

    Hey jmcrofts do you know the new released game Pocket Bravery?

  • @xanderac
    @xanderac 8 месяцев назад

    Most Saiyans have air launchers and most of the villains didn't in Fighterz which I thought was strange lol

  • @WhyHandlesIMeanFroggchamp
    @WhyHandlesIMeanFroggchamp Год назад +1

    Why does Lord Knight got the cube??

  • @Mr.Faust3
    @Mr.Faust3 Год назад

    17:50 that’s why Luke is the new protag and not Alex lol

  • @deathstardoesstuff
    @deathstardoesstuff Год назад +1

    Fun fact: Frieza is only bad because AcrSys does not know how to buff him. They only really buff Golden Frieza while ignoring regular Frieza

    • @rikibdgd4764
      @rikibdgd4764 Год назад +2

      hes broken now since the may patch though

    • @deathstardoesstuff
      @deathstardoesstuff Год назад

      @@rikibdgd4764 Yeah this new patch really jacked a lot of characters up, but I don't think he's broken per say. He's definitely gotten a lot better but characters like Beerus and for some god forsaken reason SSJ4 Gogeta getting MASSIVE buffs, as well as almost all of the cast getting decent buffs, Frieza didn't climb too high up the ranks. He's definitely not the worst but the reason why he is so bad is because pretty much all the top tiers can ignore his zoning, or out-zone him for Z-Broly and Beerus, as well as Base Vegeta now.

    • @rikibdgd4764
      @rikibdgd4764 Год назад +1

      @@deathstardoesstuff that was the case before he became a zoning god with 2364s australia top 3 player uses him and its kinda impossible to get in especially with characters who are not called ssj4 gogeta with a projectile invuln hitbox move like beerus has his 2m and 16 has his 236h but it doesnt really work against freezers broken 2364s

    • @deathstardoesstuff
      @deathstardoesstuff Год назад

      @@rikibdgd4764 Oh yeah, I forgot him and S-Broly got that buff. In that case I'd say yeah he's definitely a lot better off than I thought. I'd probably give him high A tier more than low S tier but an argument could be made for either.

    • @rikibdgd4764
      @rikibdgd4764 Год назад +1

      @@deathstardoesstuff him and SUPER BROLY????? that dog water character slow ball is absolutely mid with the landing lag it gives him and the ball not continuing to go after it lands on the ground (im half joking by dogwater hes b- at worst but still the worst char in the game pretty clearly)

  • @oklimbo
    @oklimbo Год назад

    The rare Active™ LK in this pair of vids

  • @justinguardner3129
    @justinguardner3129 Год назад

    LK looking like GT Vegeta with that stash

  • @Perceptious37
    @Perceptious37 Год назад +1

    LK's got a massive hitbox for his jaw. you could KO him without touching him. thats pretty low tier.

  • @millerwrightt
    @millerwrightt Год назад

    I was under the impression T hawk could checkmate off of any hit. Didn't damdai spend a bunch of time showing that off in tournament?

  • @KJpixelFGC
    @KJpixelFGC Год назад +4

    Frieza does not belong in this video lol

    • @irisstarsterio8960
      @irisstarsterio8960 2 месяца назад

      Nah it's accurate

    • @irisstarsterio8960
      @irisstarsterio8960 2 месяца назад

      Keep in mind for modern games with FGS getting constant patches especially DBFZ Frieza being almost always terrible is very notable

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC 2 месяца назад

      ​@@irisstarsterio8960 True but the problem is the version of Frieza he is talking about is most certainly not low tier and most of the examples he gave of why he is just aren't true anymore at all. I feel there could've been more research put into that topic.

  • @TeflonBTM
    @TeflonBTM Год назад

    First character that comes to mind is Street Fighter Dan

  • @Ghost_Gaming1899
    @Ghost_Gaming1899 Год назад +2

    SNK bros correct me if I’m wrong but has Billy Kane ever been good

    • @eddD14
      @eddD14 Год назад +2

      Maybe not very strong but fairly decent, can not say the same for whip she’s been trash since her conception.

    • @OrtadragoonX
      @OrtadragoonX Год назад +2

      He was super good in KOF 2002.
      He was also really strong in Real Bout Fatal Fury 2.
      Other than those two, he’s meh.

    • @vOddy75
      @vOddy75 Год назад +1

      Top tier in 2002 vanilla

    • @vOddy75
      @vOddy75 Год назад +1

      ​@@eddD14 Whip is viable in 2002 vanilla

    • @eddD14
      @eddD14 Год назад

      @@vOddy75 almost every character is viable in the hands of a good player but she has more whitenesses than most.

  • @shadowchao21
    @shadowchao21 8 месяцев назад

    They should've given Frieza access to more moves when he Goes Golden like waht they did with Adult Gohan levels.

  • @shawnallenlott
    @shawnallenlott Год назад +3

    Totally thought someone was gonna choose zangief and open that recent can of worms

    • @happyducky9872
      @happyducky9872 Год назад +1

      Its not that weird of a pick because he is basically the worst in the game, so he is "bad"

  • @JAnne_Bonne
    @JAnne_Bonne Год назад +1

    I get Kanji, but Labrys is… hoo boy. Labrys is… certainly a character.

  • @TobbRobb
    @TobbRobb Год назад +1

    Alex was like top half p damn good in the last season of sf5, but yeah he was ass for the rest of the lifespan

  • @odpa2888
    @odpa2888 Год назад +2

    LK NOT THE SQUARE AGIAN

  • @duo317
    @duo317 Год назад +1

    Didnt alex also have a snap back in tvc? Like only two did and he was one of them

    • @Galiaverse
      @Galiaverse Год назад +2

      Yep, Alex is the only non-giant to have a Snapback in UAS (JP only Daimao has one). I'm frankly not sure jm has Alex pegged here. What's changed since back when I played UAS? He has actual combos, can air combo into a reset command grab for big damage, that infernal j.H, has an unblockable on incoming characters after their partner is downed... Yeah his Lv3 still has the same jump out problem, but he hardly needs it.
      I mean, sure if everyone else has got better than him I suppose that's one thing. But "joke character" is kind of going too far. Not even speaking as an Alex user.

  • @ZhangLiao07
    @ZhangLiao07 Год назад +1

    I would have chosen Dee Jay in SFIV, cause whenever the buffed something he had, they nerfed it at the same time.

    • @numa2k147
      @numa2k147 Год назад

      Ono really didn't know what to do with him 😂

    • @Skallva
      @Skallva Год назад +1

      He's top 5 in SFVI now, doesn't count anymore. Even then, he was solid in Super Turbo iirc.

    • @ZhangLiao07
      @ZhangLiao07 Год назад

      @@Skallva I thought they were naming characters that were bad in all versions of a single game

    • @Skallva
      @Skallva Год назад +1

      @@ZhangLiao07 Nope. Across the board. It's just that in some cases, 'across the board' means throughout the game's update cycle.

  • @AceofKadeisAoK
    @AceofKadeisAoK Год назад

    How do you do what LK was talking about at 05:51

  • @v47reku40
    @v47reku40 2 месяца назад

    Now freeze player enjoy too much the invincible frame one golden reversal back to neutral lol 😂❤

  • @disturbedrebirth
    @disturbedrebirth 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder if they'll add Black Frieza.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 Год назад

    Another character that is pretty much always bad in every version of the game is Ganondorf in smash bros. He is best in melee but still mid tier. Every other game he is mid-bottom. But he is always fun to play.

  • @yingmustang67
    @yingmustang67 2 месяца назад

    OMG!!!! Alex did a face Fok to the giants??? Nanieeeeeee!!! 😂😂😂

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Год назад

    Lily buffs will change everything 😈

  • @Jonsofjons
    @Jonsofjons 9 месяцев назад

    What other games was Frieza was bad in?

  • @VBrancoPT
    @VBrancoPT Год назад

    Kyosuke (Capcom vs. SNK 2)

  • @Limit02
    @Limit02 Год назад

    Grapplers just in general fit this title lol

  • @WisdomInfinite-we2bj
    @WisdomInfinite-we2bj Год назад

    Grapplerzade not for beginners, low tiers are hold to master but S tier

  • @mattyryon
    @mattyryon Год назад

    Kanji was my main and did not feel at all weak, if anything he carried me pretty damn far lol

  • @torankusu3445
    @torankusu3445 Год назад +1

    Hummm i guess LK didn't see he's huge glow up from 1.32 or even now 1.33 then again he hasn't played since season 3.5

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      Frieza's been good since 1.31 lol. And yet we still got people thinking he's bad.

    • @torankusu3445
      @torankusu3445 Год назад +1

      @@KJpixelFGC yooooo wsg KJ

    • @torankusu3445
      @torankusu3445 Год назад +1

      @KJpixelFGC yea I agree that frieza was good in 1.31 but most people seem to forget that so I just said 1.32

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      @@torankusu3445 yo

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      @@torankusu3445 I'm ngl Frieza being in this video kinda annoys me😭. It gives people the impression that he's still under par when in reality he's been kickin it for 3 patches. I just wish LK had done more research.

  • @ab14967
    @ab14967 Год назад

    Frieza having the powerup level 3 screwed him so much.

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад

      How so? And he's super strong now. Easy high tier

    • @ab14967
      @ab14967 Год назад

      @@Kitsune986 It's because Arcsys would always buff the Golden Frieza form only, never touching base Frieza, and even nerfing him a bit sometimes.
      So, rather than playing a decent character that has a strong ace in the hole transformation, the only benefit to play Frieza is for Golden Frieza.

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад

      @@ab14967
      Lol, I know that was the meme. Arcsys only ever buffed Goden Freeza. But they finally gave him great buffs to "normal" Freeza in patch 1.32

    • @ab14967
      @ab14967 Год назад

      @@Kitsune986 And thank god for that. But that still doesn't argue against the point that having the transformation ironically kept him as a low tier for a long time.

  • @smoothsavage2870
    @smoothsavage2870 Год назад +1

    Lord Knight's hair/beard says that he should be in his 40s, but his face says he should be in his 20s.

    • @chillaxboi2109
      @chillaxboi2109 Год назад +1

      The man is supposedly in his 50s. It makes no sense. I WANT THAT!

    • @smoothsavage2870
      @smoothsavage2870 Год назад

      @@chillaxboi2109 What????

    • @chillaxboi2109
      @chillaxboi2109 Год назад +1

      @@smoothsavage2870 Exactly. It don't make sense, ask him in any video.

  • @Snoozie
    @Snoozie Год назад +1

    Every time LK is in these types of videos he always gotta bring up dragon ball lmao
    Like wym this character us ALWAYS High/Low tier
    it's just 1 game with several seasons it's always a weird pick if you ask me
    Like it a lot when he talks about games with many entries/rereleases as opposed to games that just have updates

    • @eddD14
      @eddD14 Год назад

      Exactly db should not be mention not even persona in my opinion, the format it’s cool but it lacks of variety.

  • @TheStrategist314
    @TheStrategist314 11 месяцев назад

    Wonder if we’ll ever get to a point where slapping the hell put of a fightstick on a vid will be not necessary.

  • @moistwindow6094
    @moistwindow6094 Год назад

    Me, an aki main laughing in second to bottom tier

  • @moeguns6388
    @moeguns6388 Год назад

    I know it’s been about a year or 2 since I seen lord knight but seems like he aged bout 20 or 30 years since I last seen him 😅

    • @moeguns6388
      @moeguns6388 Год назад

      @SpiteHook and grew alot of grey too… I’m not talking $hit I like LN

  • @Gamersgoinblind
    @Gamersgoinblind Год назад

    For me I'd have to say Alex from Street Fighter being generally pretty bad to mid in basically every game he's appeared in.
    I should have waited, i was expecting Hugo or Twelve to be picked for SF3 from JMCrofts

    • @OrtadragoonX
      @OrtadragoonX Год назад +1

      Hugo is actually very solid in Third Strike. He’s mid tier as a character. In the right hands he damn near unstoppable.

    • @OrtadragoonX
      @OrtadragoonX Год назад

      Now Twelve? He’s just awful in every conceivable way.

    • @megamansoupreme7122
      @megamansoupreme7122 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@OrtadragoonX As a 12 main, you're right lol

  • @jamariirobinson725
    @jamariirobinson725 Год назад +4

    My vote goes to Ganondorf. He's always been mid at best. But at least he can suavemente.

    • @bulb9970
      @bulb9970 Год назад +1

      Zelda might be even worse. Ganondorf at least is mid tier in Melee but Zelda has been low or bottom tier in every game

    • @OrtadragoonX
      @OrtadragoonX Год назад +1

      @@bulb9970and it hurts because I always a Zelda main. I love her play style. But you WORK so hard just to do anything with her.

  • @Migraman2
    @Migraman2 Год назад

    JM please play Pocket Bravery! The game is very fun to play and has rollback netcode

  • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
    @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Год назад +1

    Alex was top mid tier in SFV tho

  • @lukeblaker8009
    @lukeblaker8009 Год назад

    Alex is good in street fighter five season 5 though, high tier for sure

  • @mandelballener7966
    @mandelballener7966 17 дней назад

    Why is it that the face of the guy on green is boxed while yours was not? Is it because bald head looks ugly in a box?

  • @starmantheta2028
    @starmantheta2028 Год назад

    I've been told multiple times that a grappler being high tier (or even just good) is a sign of bad game design and I'm still not entirely sure why that is.

    • @QGfk1
      @QGfk1 Год назад +2

      it's just bc people hate playing against them. some of the big franchises have had a top tier big body grappler once (AC potemkin, Abigail before nerfs) and people act like they have PTSD from those times. but it might also just be hard to balance, in sf6 I think gief is supposed to be weak but lily and manon are pretty unique grapplers and new characters they must want to be popular. unique strengths are hard to balance though, so they erred on the weaker side. as to why people hate them, people hate 'robbery' characters and they're the only ones that rob you for blocking.

    • @docs.a.t.7161
      @docs.a.t.7161 Год назад +1

      Most players think all games should be rushdown

    • @nicholasbrozowski3558
      @nicholasbrozowski3558 Год назад

      I'm pretty sure theoryfighter made a good video on it.

  • @ActionJacksonForever
    @ActionJacksonForever Год назад

    I hate that Zangief hasn’t been any good since vanilla SF4

  • @sa1gon1
    @sa1gon1 Год назад

    lmao, that headbutt is Sussy

  • @QuintBlitz
    @QuintBlitz Год назад

    If Morrigan isn't here I'll be salty.
    She's bad in every game she appears in, minus Marvel 3. I guess CvS2 as well, but she's more mid tier than outright bad.

  • @mrosskne
    @mrosskne Год назад

    5 frames of startup is slow? isn't a jab literally like 3 to 4 frames in most games?

    • @happyducky9872
      @happyducky9872 Год назад +1

      Yes and yes

    • @chillaxboi2109
      @chillaxboi2109 Год назад +1

      You said it yourself. Before he even starts jumping, someone could interrupt it, nevermind in the air, you know?

  • @reynauldwhistles2338
    @reynauldwhistles2338 Год назад

    24:29 ah yes hit them whit the meat machine.

  • @elijahoneill5228
    @elijahoneill5228 Год назад +1

    Frieza is not low tier anymore he's ascended, I didn't watch the video yet

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад +1

      Most of his points are outdated. He hasn't been keeping up with the game which is why.

  • @PlatinPark1992
    @PlatinPark1992 Год назад

    Idk about Frieza. He is my main right from the start and I do very well with him. Imo he is pretty solid and can also be very deadly.
    Grapplers just need a really patient Mindgame. So they aren't that bad, but hard to pull off

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад +3

      I disagree with almost every point LK made I have no idea why Frieza is in this video when he's currently a high tier😭

  • @mohastgridlock
    @mohastgridlock Год назад

    Gamma is good T-Hawk

  • @call_me_maple
    @call_me_maple Год назад +2

    Ya know, I guess I just don't really like LK.

  • @bofygaming9672
    @bofygaming9672 Год назад

    People thinking frieza is good ha, now compare him to the cast

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад

      Okay. And Freeza's still 100% high tier, lmfao. Patch 1.32 made him very strong

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      I see you in every DBFZ video that mentions Frieza. He's godlike bro idk why you put so much effort into trolling

    • @bofygaming9672
      @bofygaming9672 Год назад

      im the only one out here trying to buff him

    • @KJpixelFGC
      @KJpixelFGC Год назад

      @@bofygaming9672 he doesn't need buffs brother. I don't WANT him to get buffed anymore. Apart from him 5H being bugged he's perfect.

    • @Kitsune986
      @Kitsune986 Год назад

      @@bofygaming9672
      But he doesn't even need buffs, lol. He's a strong and complete character. He's perfectly fine the way he is