S Flex vs R Flex Iron Shaft Comparison - Takomo 101T 7 Iron with KBS Tour Shafts
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Is there really a huge difference between S and R Flex Iron shafts? The answer might surprise you.
Golf shaft technology has improved a lot over the last few decades and that means that the R flex shaft of today is a lot different from the R flex shafts of the past. This test is a bit of an extreme example because 98 mph swing speeds with a 7 iron is above PGA tour average. But that should only amplify the differences between these two shaft options.
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I have always been recommended to use regular flex based on my swing speed. I bought a new set of Mizuno irons that came with stiff flex steel and I couldn't believe the distance and accuracy improvement I gained with the stiff flex shafts. I now use a S/R shaft as my swing is right between the two flexes.
Look at you Tim talking all technically. I remember when you barely knew the head from the grip 😂😂😂😂. Love your stuff and love my 101T’s
What a great video! So well done and proves that ego should never be a factor in selecting shafts. For most of us mortals, R flex is where we want to be. Maybe R flex in 4-7 iron, and S flex in 8-PW is best case scenario for those that can’t commit to R flex through the iron bag.
Very good information. I went with s flex for the dispersion factor. Was shorter distance, but the shots were tighter. So I will take that trade off all day
Great video Tim, I went with the Reg in the 101T , just waiting for course to open!
Nice comparison video, Tim.
I would argue the dispersion is better on the R flex, as the orange circle was tighter than the white circle. You just needed to aim more right. I'd suspect a lot more golfers would benefit from the R flex & it's ability to close easier, but ego makes people think that S flex is the only option for the "better" golfer.
Been playing my 101T with extra stiff C tapers. I'm still getting used to them but I do hit the shit out of them! I recommend getting fitted. Don't guess on shaft! I did an iron fitting and these were the exact shafts I was fitted for. It makes a big difference with spin & dispersion.
I went from TT S300’s in my old clubs to the KBS Tour 120 S in my 201s. I’m loving the slightly lighter shafts and the feel of a little additional kick point at the bottom of the swing.
Thank you for the education! Looking forward to more videos
Another really interesting comparison
what a great test and incredible results. thanks for doing this!!
The height and spin on the S is more my prefeered profile. Those R shots seemed to have much more runout. I want things to drop and stop with irons. My 101T's are still in process stage but can't wait to get them and compare to my current gamers. Great content and keep it up! And offer more stuff in LH!!! lol
Hey Tim, a friend of mine is likely to purchase 101Ts. He lives in Everett, WA. He's been asking me how I like my 101Ts. I do like them a lot. I do think I need a lighter shaft though. 125 grams is too heavy for me. I'll keep playing with them for a while. Maybe I'll get a little stronger, Haha!
Stay away from them fella
Great information Tim loved the video
Interesting comparison. Fascinating. Experience has taught me to be more focused on the shaft weight as compared to the flex. There is quiet a difference in the weight of some steel shafts. You need to be aware of that.
Shaft weight definitely makes a big difference
I was looking in the KBS website and saw the they me an R+ flex. Will Takomo Golf carry these as an option at anytime?
Very good and informative. Enjoyed the video.
Not surprising. I skipped to the results and knew the R was orange. I had the same experience testing shafts-slightly pulled to the left and slightly longer. I agree with those who say the dispersion with the R is actually tighter. But it is not straighter. The stiff to me gives more control.
how about a test between graphite and steel shafts in the 101 series and the 301mb series, is there a difference in these two series, maybe graphite is better in one series than in the other🤔
Only thing holding me back from ordering a set is no set GW available. Any plans of offering a set GW in the future? I know you have skyforger wedges but I prefer my gap wedge to match my set
R flex will give more lag also which is probably helping you compress the ball better hence the lower peak height and launch
Dispersion is king! Take out the single worse hit from each.... so the tad left orange and the tad short white one and orange is your most perfect club for you for sure! Drawing and tight dispersion is Pro results. Orange wont balloon up so high either, which is way better control in normal outdoor conditions then white's flights.
Obviously every golfer can play every shaft, obviously as well you won't go further with stiffer sticks (long drive guys often play their longest with regular or even lady/senior shafts, for the whipping effect). The benefit of the right stiffness is indeed controlling the club face and not losing every shot to the left (or the right for other players). I'm playing the tour in 130g x-stiff and I've got not issues playing some regular clubs... I just know that I'll over draw 90% of them whereas I don't have this issue (mostly) with stouter/heavier shafts.
Add feel to that and that about all there is to "stiffness" and even "weight" in shafts!
Thank you for this!
Do you think the R flex could have exaggerated your club path? I have an out-to-in swing and I fade more with an R flex. It seems like the S flex was giving you a club path of 2.8 to low 4s, but the R flex was more like 4 to 5.5 degrees in-to-out. Great video! I'll have to try this out next time I'm at the Trackman.
Can’t wait for my 301mb to come in
My experience w/ Takomo irons is they look great but they have no feel to them imo. I had the 101,s
The Takomo iron line has intrigued me for awhile, but I would love to have the opportunity to hit them first before making a purchasing decision. How does one go about trying them?
What they told me was you have to order a stock set (kbs tour shaft no extra length or lie adjustments.) Then you can hit the 7iron only with a 30 day money back guarantee. Didn't take more than 50 swings to fall in love with the feel of the 201s.
Also can ask around to see if anyone in your area has them and will let you borrow them
@@joetrigger4538 Yeah, it would be easiest if I knew of someone nearby who had a set, but I haven't found anyone yet. As far as Takomo's suggestion, why wouldn't they just allow you to buy a returnable trial 7-iron rather than the whole set? That doesn't make much sense to me especially considering that I already know I will need length and lie adjustments.
@PongGod that would make more sense. Before I ordered I talked to my local pro shop and confirmed if I needed any adjustments that they could make those. With the 201s being forged they said there would be no issue changing anything I needed
I believe some fitters have the heads now in the UK and maybe US
Hey Tim, looking to order some 201 irons. Deciding between tour stiff or tour lite x-stiff. 85-90mph club speed but like the idea or a lighter shaft but not sure how might effect game. Thanks!
What happens when the swing speed goes to 75-80?
yes more please.
I am willing to bet that if you removed the labels and didn't know which one you were swinging, the results would have been different. Since you knew which flex you were hitting, your mind naturally done something different to your swing.
I have my 101 since 1 year now , was 12,5 now 11,6 , graphite ,60 years old . I didn't understand this video : what is the difference between 101 and 101T ?...
How about finding a older person with a slow swing speed and have them compare the r-flex and a-flex?
What swing speed would you want to see?
@@takomogolfcompany I don't know exactly. A speed that an 60 year old fat guy who is way out of shape and as maybe played 25 games of golf in his entire adult life might swing at. But wants the right shaft to use and learn with.
Interesting’ish but with that club head speed its not a real choice. Would have been better at 80 mph club head speed. What may be interesting is an autoflex style comparison on driver. Guidance seems to be autoflex is 2 flexes different from normal.so, if you are a stiff, try it against a sr flex.......
Thank god we are on the Takomo chanel, we might missed that if it was of all the logos
Well people that don’t care about yous iv had Notting but trouble getting mine not only waiting longer then estimated on site and very very impossible to contact in anyway I ordered one of the woods and payed for all head and shaft only got head and no one on there customer service will get back to me too find out why days iv been mailing them not in person back
Flex varies between models of the same company as well as different companies, S and R could be the same between 2 companies
Would love to know the SWINGWEIGHT difference in these tests as well.
10g shaft weiggt is only 1 swingweight point
Can I ask for Nippon shafts instead of KBS?
I am currently gaming the Ben Hogan radial irons and I can hit them pretty good sometimes but I’m in the market for some new ones. I’ve looked at the 101ts and just the 101 which one would you prefer? I usually shoot a 96 at my home course.
Are you looking for more distance or do you prefer a smaller clubhead?
@@takomogolfcompany I am 14 and I am looking to get some more distance out of my irons.
Get yourself some new Hogan's. Superb quality and fitting. Visually appealing, too. Feel like butter.
@@frederickmattson1968 I’ll look into those, is there a specific one I should look for?
10 grams less weight in the R.
So few generate those clubhead speeds…show me what happens at 75 mph.
Will definitely do a version of this at those speeds
Now if we can only get you to quit twisting your lower body you’d be hitting some crisp shots
Everything is good with takomo but your delivery times are ridicules mate. You need to cut down down on marketing and streamlining the delivery process to make it more customer friendly.
And don't live in a exotic country !!!... Plus being a LEFTY !.
Shafts are always out of stock and no TT shafts…
For me Hily not recommended
find a guy w/a 150 carry 7i and look at the results
Negligible