Diamond Comp Jr vs Keeley Compressor Plus
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2018
- I’ve been going back and forth between these two pedals for some time now. I think both sound great so I figured it would be helpful for myself and others if I did a side by side comparison. I use the Boomerang III Phrase Sampler to maintain continuity in my playing. The only other thing I used in this video was Positive Grid’s BIAS Amp in Logic X. Share your thoughts below.
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Thank you so much for comparing these two! My Diamond is beautiful but for whatever reason I compulsively look for greener pastures.
Tried the yellow Mooer, Ego Mini, Pulp n Peel, etc. Day 1 I’d be like “Oh yeah this kicks the Diamond off,” only to then find myself frustrated in ways big and small with each of them later down the road.
The intuitiveness of the Diamond is an undervalued selling point imo. In contrast to the (great) aforementioned comps that have sweet spots that seem to move day-to-day, each knob on the Diamond presents a usable range 0-10.
Now the Keeley+ shows greater range at a lower price point - used at least - and thus deserves a nod. However, I can vouch for the simplicity of the Diamond being totally worthwhile. The many, mini, invaluable, on-the-fly adjustments I’ve made at sound check and DURING the first song live have made me smile and relax into my playing on more than one occasion.
Showing up to a new gig I feel a sense of comfort just knowing it’s on my board.
TL;DR. The Diamond is the King of Subtle Tonal Adjustment. It knows its identity as a pedal and helps you to know yours as a player. While it doesn’t try to do as much as some comps out there, I’ve always found it to be like Goldilocks- just right :)
Thanks for your input! Very exciting to hear what another compressor connoisseur thinks!
Joe Meek FloorQ
@@ArgentPure Compared to these, very rare and hard to find, even 2nd hand, plus 3/4x more expensive.
But great pedal, no doubt about it.
Diamond!!
I've had a few comps over the years- for the 80's it was the dyna comp- then when Robert Keeley made the 'Plus' I was all in- and I still have that one on my board for my cover band board- but since I've done quite a bit of studio work with the Xotic AC & BB's this Diamond Jr is absolutely killer. When I saw this comparison side to side I never did this with mine- these are two of the best on the market. Great Job!
Thank you!
it’s clear that that keeley has a SPANK to it, which is desirable to many (just not to me) and although the keeley has a sparkle to it, i appreciate the clearness of the diamond as apposed to the keeleys added clarity
is the footswitch as loud as it sounds? i love the diamond, but a loud footswitch kills it for me.
By "tilt style", do you mean sweep-able EQ (you choose the center bandwidth, for the sweet spot that tunes your sound you where you want to be)? It's a very nice feature to have at your fingertips, especially if you have radically different-sounding guitars.
I'm in the process of building a pedal board for my acoustic and electric systems, but it's a slow process.
For twenty plus years, I've been using a dbx 166a, for my electric setup, and a Presonus Studio Channel, (tube preamp/EQ/compressor - since maybe 2009), for the acoustic setup. I've been really pleased with both of these setups, but am gravitating towards pedal setup, in certain instances.
I never thought I'd go back to using pedals, after using rack-mounted equipment, but there are some really incredible pedals out there, these days, and it's like a new adventure for me.
I'm hoping to find something with the same kind of overall control as the 166a, but in a pedal.
Thanks for posting this comparison video. Great work :-)
david57strat Diamond Pedals describes it as a “seesaw” eq or a tilt eq. It uses the mid range as a fulcrum and tips the tone toward the high or low end depending on how you have it set. It’s really cool.
I think you’re right about pedals these days. There is a lot to explore. Half the fun of using pedals is being able to completely customize your sound. Good luck on your journey!
I prefer Keeley, excellent video.👌
Diamond
Thanks for the demo. Exactly the two I am comparing and looking to buy one or the other. So in the room which one adds the least amount of noise?
They seem comparable depending on the amount compression used. The Diamond, even when maxed out is a pretty subtle pedal. I thought it was quiet and great for tone shaping. The Keeley is noisier when you dial it up all the way but its capable of much more compression. You may also want to look into Walrus Audio's Deep Six. I haven't played it but I've hear it's pretty quiet.
Thanks for sharing. Would have been cool to have heard an amp really pumping to edge of distortion but with the guitar vol backed off for that fatter cleaner tone. Something with more weight. Sparkly clean is often where we need to compress sharp transients for sure, but something less obvious where the compressors sustain influence is always nice. Hard to chosen if I had to pick one as there were things about both I liked but I think I'd lean towards the Keeley.
Thanks for the input! If I do another compressor comparison, I’d like to compare them pushing an amp.
I currently have the Diamond Comp Jr. on my board and it does what I need it to do: transparent with sustain and a real tone spectrum. I bought the Keely and it was gone not long after that...you might ask why? It took the bottom out of the mix even with the tone control and blend on board. The Jr. didn't tamper with my sound like that. I wanted the Keely to be more friendly, but with my gear (USA HRD, SSS Strat, USA Les Paul Classic and Gretsch double jet etc.) I just couldn't get there. Before the Jr. I was using an old DOD compressor (FX80B). It would still be on my board now if it hadn't been stolen from me along with the rest of the board. The DOD FX80B is an excellent compressor...very close to the Diamond Jr. but try to find one that is not beat up.
I love both of these options. The Diamond Comp Jr. definitely does something special.
I have a Keeley Compressor Plus and switched with my friend and borrowed his Diamond Compressor Jr. for 2 weeks and am loving optical compressors and the Diamond more than my Keeley. Form factor is a huge deal for me as I don't have a large pedalboard and the Diamond Compressor Jr. is still pretty big compared to other optical compressors like the EQD Warden(that has a Blend feature as well) and the Pigtronix Philosopher's Tone Micro(only issue is that it's made in China, and I don't endorse Chinese made pedals). Tone wise, how does the Diamond Jr. compare with the EQD Warden V2 and the Philosopher's Tone Micro? Again, 1. I am looking for an optical compressor. 2. Size is the most important factor for me.
The Warden doesn't have blend...
I sold my Keeley and have had the Diamond Comp Jr on my board for a little over a year now. Out of the two, the Keeley was a better fit for me and I’m beginning to miss having it.
Keeley won out for me too. It’s honestly perfect at what it does.
Can it run in 12 volts?
The Diamond Comp jr. can run between 9-18V for greater headroom if needed. The Keeley Compressor + is optimal at 9V.
Had the keeley + , lack of attack and release didn't work for me. The generic single coil/ humbuckers settings were meh as well. It sounded best a transparent always on comp and I thought anything after noon was disappointing. I think this pedal is incredibly overrated and I ended up returning to my dyna comp
Thats actually precisely how I use it. Usually sustain isn't past 9 o clock and blend is around 1. It's not very forward but it evens things out.
Hey man, does keeley have much noise when turned on?
All compressors are at least a little noisy. I'd say its unnoticeable though. If you want to hear it in a musical context, you can listen to any of my Moments videos. I keep the compressor on all the time and never feel like its in the way.
@@BrettWondrak Thanks dude. I have a mxr super comp and it sounds kinda noisy, I believe Keeley is less, I hope so. PS: My english is a work in progress.
@@xangai87 your English is superb my man 👌
Keeley is the obvious choice of these two, imo. More compression and sustain, with more make-up gain which is hard to hear on this video. The Diamond doesn't sound bad, but why buy a compressor that doesn't compress well? It's probably better as a clean boost than anything else.
It is certainly a great clean boost, especially in conjunction with the tilt EQ. You can find some unique tonal options there... The blend knob is what really sets the Keeley (and most other modern compressors) apart for me. There are more options that way.
Some people like subtle compression. Its like saying why buy an overdrive pedal when you can buy a distortion pedal that "distorts" the signal more?
I’m sorry but are you properly fretting the notes? Such sloppy playing man sorry
Thanks for the heads up. Thankfully this video is featuring the compressors, not my playing.
playings fine, sounds like low action