What It's Like Losing A Child To Gun Violence (HBO)
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2017
- One Friday afternoon five years ago, Nelba Márquez-Greene sent two of her children to school in Newtown, Connecticut, and only got one back.
As a marriage and family therapist, she's well-versed in the language of trauma and grief. But her fluency has become a lot more personal since her 6-year-old daughter Ana was murdered in the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting.
Márquez-Greene now apportions her energy thoughtfully. She knows this month, more than the others, she needs extra space to grieve, work, and be a mother and wife - not that her emotional and personal responsibilities can be easily separated. She's the founder and director of the Ana Grace Project, founded in the memory of her daughter, that works to address social isolation and social justice in schools.
Márquez-Greene mourns the loss of her daughter, but she also mourns the version of herself that existed before the shooting: a woman with a naive but steadfast belief that she lived in a place where a mass display of gun violence could never happen.
“I would say that the only difference between the early days and now is that the shock has worn off,” Márquez-Greene said. “When you have lost a child, a beloved, prayed-for child, to gun violence, I will only say for us, it doesn't get better.”
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The frequency of school shootings is skyrocketing Last week, a gunman shot and killed 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
VICE News spoke to the students who witnessed the tragedy - bit.ly/2sNPH9W
That is not true. The thing that has incrased is the endless coverage by the anti-gun media. When I was in 6th grade over 50 years ago my 6th grade flag football team went to another school to play a game. The other team was all atwitter over what one student had done a few days before. Apparently he brought his dad's .45 acp pistol to school and was intent on getting even with a teacher for some reason. The teacher saw the gun and took off running while the kid took several shots at him. Teacher wasn't hurt and kid got appropriate punishment. The point is it wasn't on national news. It wasn't in the big city newspapers. It wasn't in the local newspapers. When I told my parents the story neither of them had heard about it. If the same thing had happened today it would have been on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. nonstop for weeks. Why? Could it be this is how the anti gun newsmedia wages war against the 2nd amendment?
Tell the truth; these "incidents" were planned and paid for by gun-control activists, not even extremists! You are guilty of the blood of those killed for supporting gun control LIES!
BIack On Black Prove it
wilhard45 and come all 17 flordia school shooting had close casket funeral and Sandy Hook!
You want to take the guns and soonoer or later the government will kill more people than what you save. Terrorists and criminals will kill more people than you save. If you stop people from driving you would stop 35,000 people from dying each year. If you closed hospitals and doctors offices, then 100s, of 1000s of people would not die from prescription drugs and medical accidents. You want to take the guns and give more power to the government, the same government, despite having dozens of incidents that they could have used with current law to adjudicate Cruz and take his guns. The FBI, and Sheriff stood down. Why? You won't touch that. You won't touch Big Pharma either and their role in doling out SSRIs and pain meds that kill far more people. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth.
ana would’ve been the same age as me. i can’t even begin to imagine how sad that could’ve been for her family. i will forever think of the students who were killed. everyone who thinks guns are good and gun violence think of how you would’ve felt if this had happened to you as a parent, as a sibling, and as a victim. exactly. you cannot even imagine it. the grief you would feel is unimaginable. rest in peace to all of the beautiful people who passed that day.
I dont even remember the sandy hook school shooting because i was like 7 when it happen but this specfic school shooting will always make me the saddest and the angriest like yes i know about the virgina tech masscare , the parkland masscare , the columbine shooting , the uvalde shooting but the sandy hook shooting could have been the last school shooting masscare of every school shooting that happen after 2012 but of course our lazy governemt allowed more school shootings to happen after 2012 if they would have fixed our school system after Sandy hook the uvalve shooting wouldnt have happen i cant believe its been 10 years since this tradgey and still nothing has been done the government has literally been talking in circles for years a mass shooting happens then media extravangza happens and then people get together for memorials people send their thoughts and prayers and then we have meetings about gun debates but end the end no REAL change ever really happens every thing goes back to normal and i literally cant believe its been 10 years today and nothing has changed and it took 10 years just to get a documentary on this sick person people been looking for answers as to why he did with he did for 10 years and still with
his documentry being out we still don't know the reason behind this elementary school shooting .
I'm the father of 13-year-old autistic twins who were shot to death by their own mother. Whenever someone reacts to hearing that with a sentence that begins, "Well, at least...", I want to punch that person in the face. This grieving mother is absolutely right...there is absolutely nothing redeeming about the murder of a child. There is no sentence that begins with "Well, at least..." that makes the parents of murdered children feel better. It just sounds phony and patronizing.
Creamy Autist - I've considered forgiving her, but the fact that she planned the murders for at least 2 weeks and deliberately tried to make it look like I did it makes that EXTREMELY difficult. She told her friends and family that I beat and sexually assaulted her, and threatened to kill her. She actually invited her friends to my house to show them the gun she claimed I used to threaten her, which she eventually used to murder my children, kill my dog, and then commit suicide. She also told those people that I beat my children, but absolutely none of that was true; I never raised a hand to her or my kids or abused them in ANY way, EVER. As if that weren't enough, she also left a notebook full of the same type of ridiculous bullshit just in case the cops didn't get around to talking to all those people she lied to. Given all this, I can reach only one conclusion: she murdered my children and killed my beloved dog, committed suicide, and then tried to frame me for the whole thing because she wanted to punish me in the worst way possible for telling he I wanted a divorce. Now, do you think you'd be able to forgive someone who executed your innocent children just to get back at you?
Tom Ogden
The most important thing I learned about forgiveness is that you don't forgive a person to benefit them, you forgive to find peace for yourself.
I don't know how long ago this happened, but I'm sure it's going to take some time to find peace. For me, peace came by way of comforting others who have been through something similar. I don't try to fix anyone, that cannot be done. I just help them get through.
You will figure it out.
WTF? You KNEW she was a danger to you and your kids? You knew she was planning to do harm and YOU did NOTHING to prevent it?
My firearms had nothing to do with your child's murder any more than the State of Iraq is responsible for the murder of mine.
She missed one
oh boy oh boy...why did I scroll down to read these cancerous comments?
My dad was murded when I was 6 and I cannot agree with the boy's words more. When youre a child and something traumatic happens like that, you feel that you have to be strong because everyone else in your family is breaking down. We pretend to be okay or pretend nothing happened, but we are hurting. I dont know the answer to this pain, but I wish I did.
Jesus this was 6 years ago! I remember it like it was yesterday. Time flies by so quickly.
This is so heartbreaking! I wish no parent ever had to experience this ever.
Yeah if the world was rainbows and rained skittles. Be real, we dont live in goody 2 shoes land, we live on earth with corrupt humans
hahaha
oh they didn't experience it at all! they are con artist just like all the rest that are duping into donating to them. they are the most evil of evil!
You can't kill something that never existed.
Don't worry no one at newtown had to experience it.
Aw I’m so sorry for ur loss no one should go through this💔
I dont wanna be that person but I feel like their daughter gets talked about the least out of the sandy hook victimns because you know she the only black kid that died which makes her death even sadder
The Newtown Massacre was a tragedy that could have been prevented. Mental Health Laws need change. Adam Lanza was a ticking time bomb. His mother from all accounts did very little to get him the help he needed. The mother is further the cause by her not securing firearms from a known mental defect of a son.
The Newtown school security was a joke...… Was only a matter of time till a situation like this massacre would happen. You would think after Columbine , Virginia Tech and Hofstra in New York..... Schools across America would step up campus security. But Newtown did nothing ZERO. And that is why the gunman gained access to the school.
Mental Health not guns is the cause. Fix mental health to prevent this from happening again.
It's Dec 14, 2018. I've been listening to the stories and thinking of those beautiful children and heart stricken parents. Now I have a 4 yr old granddaughter and the pictures of this little Ana Grace (my own daughter's name) brings me the tenderness and joy of the outrageously sweet little child I find in my granddaughter ( whose favorite color too, is purple). I find this mother remarkable in her strength as an individual and courageous and intelligent. This video is a gift. Thank you for sharing, Mrs. Marquez-Greene.
This breaks my heart but I'm glad I got to hear her perspective of it all ❤️
Don't Nelba's a liar.
@@jeffgannon5783 stfu
@@jeffgannon5783 you calling nelba a liar but there's a whole Sandy hook victimin who use her son for clout
Rest in peace, Ana and the 25 people who were lost that day. May your death not be in vain.
spg77777 - cite your sources. Show your proof. Or, you can just continue to spew your ridiculous right-wing conspiracy theory bullshit.
Don't forget 1300 babies were aborted today and everyday on the taxpayer expense
Joseph listen sis we ain't talking about that are we ??? nah we ain't. yeah that's sad but this video is different so you're cancelled
Tom Ogden Show us videos of Lanza entering the school… Show is evidence that anyone was actually killed in that school that day… They can’t because there wasn’t… The reason why nobody cried is that nobody died
Mark Aim There’s a great book written by a man named Jim Fetzer called nobody died at Sandyhook… You can find it online it’s an excellent read and when you’re finished, there’s no way you can possibly believe that this event actually took place
The worst is that the parents had to see their kids bodies aftermath. One of the dad said the rifle nearly torn his son lower body in half, that's how bad this shooting was.
LOL! No one died. FBI admits it.
Don't bother with the comments on this one.
Okay, thanks
EliteSalvi Shut up and yes bother with the comments 😖😠😠 !!
Thanks for the warning.
5:09
Just broke my heart.
Does anyone else see the ironic humour in the fact that the people who believe the crisis actor narrative base their position on their own judgements that the parents aren't acting sad enough by their standards?
A second irony in this is that idea of what a grieving parent should look like is probably far more influenced by the media they have consumed (i.e. TV and film) rather than from first hand experience.
Conspirisheeple are the worst kind of sheeple, they think they are smarter when in reality, they are just sheepishly repeating like a parrot anything Alex jones and other conspiracy cults make up with no solid evidence (watch, I will get called a sheeple or follower, even though I clearly think for myself while alex jones conspiracy cultists just want to believe everything he says lmao)
Farley Dayton thinking the sole reason for people not believing the official narrative is how these parents acted is a foolish assumption, there's a plethora of reasons, how some parents acted was just reason to look into this further. ruclips.net/video/qI6zOKnRZ7I/видео.html go ahead check that out, for the record that has nothing to do with how the parents acted. Bet you never seen the police reports or the fact that lanzas DNA and finger prints weren't on anything involved with any of this, go ahead check it out I'll waite.
I'm gonna go ahead out on a limb here and say that documentary you linked 100% fake news
derty QWERTY you’re not a sheeple you’re worse, you’re a shill. Maybe you have seen the truth but have rejected it to live in your bubble
there's whole books full of evidence, foo.
Wow this is something else I pray for all the loss Dear Lord what a beautiful princess. Your Story is amazing thanks for the strength to share. RIP to your precious baby girl.
Mowac tell your parents how you feel lmao
I am watching this in May 29th, 2022, and it feels like My heart is 🩸 inside while watching this. I am thinking about Ana, as well as all the other kids snatched from us that day, and I am thinking about the children Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas who were snatched from us last Tuesday. It doesn’t get any more heartbreaking than this. Think about how the history books are gonna look back at this in due time, kind words will NOT at all be said about this, No way. This kind of bloodthirsty and violent environment kids are exposed to in this country, is an immoral outrage.
What also really broke my heart, is when Nelba said 1) to never redeem murder as result of gun violence, it’s one thing for a 99 year old to die peacefully in his or her sleep, it’s another for someone to die because of a gun bullet. That should NEVER happen, that’s a crime against humanity 2) she said at the very last part, where there is tragedy and there is triumph, the triumph will be when I “we reunite in the heavens when we get to see Ana again”.
I felt every word in my soul
may all the families, friends, first responders and others be walking a path to find peace
Difficult to watch I could barely hold back the tears😭💔
I am so sorry I am just 2 months &10 days younger than here I can't image losing my brother he's only 5 I wish you best of love from the world and my family
Amen to that. i cant say i know exactly how that feels but i know how it feel to just leaving someones house thinking they are safe the having police men come to the door telling me a family member i was just with, was murdered and know the killer personally broke me, knowing that if that person didn't get everything that he wanted, never got grounded or hit, he would still be alive right now, and see how you handle this makes me wanna handle it just like you.
The date he died- march/ 15 / 2017
Even though i'm really late my prayers go out to you and your family.
God bless Ana,from all the stories I heard about you was that you are and was an 👼. I'd take your place the moment I heard about the 🙏 shooting.
I love this lovely woman and her family. They touched me so much at the time of the tragedy, and continue to do so.
I just lost my only daughter a little over a week ago. It’s so rough. My wife and i are struggling. Also my sister.
I am terribly sorry for your tragic loss, I have no children and I cannot imagine what you are going through. I am sending love your way.
If you’re one of the thumbs down 👎 people...you are a broken human and should seek help.
it's the same feeling anytime your kid dies no matter how, car wreck on way to school, or ahy other way
This story was painfully emotional for me.
I hate to take away from it or change the subject but is it possible for you to upload the latest segment on Net Neutrality? Sharing this segment across social media may helpful spread more awareness/information to those who would otherwise not read a news story.
Sorry bud this is a completely fake story from the get-go. Go do some research. Start with watching the "coroners" interview after "dissecting" 20+ dead kids and then return here.
Awesome story. I have never heard this perspective before and it is eye opening. Keep fighting.
Welp it's a fake story, considering the FBI themselves said that no one died from homicide in 2012 in Newtown CT!
Rocket Steve929 show article. And really that’s all you need to believe this?
This is making me cry...
I'm just 14 year old kid and when this shooting happened I was about 10 years old I was so sad I'm just like who goes take their anger out on poor little cute 1st graders parents sent their children to school that Day expecting them Back home to ask how their Day was and that was sad how some idiot took their life away at just 5or6 years old this gun violence needs to stop another school shooting happened a Florida high school I just wanted to cry I'm sick of this gun violence stop it it is not cool.
They would be my age now and I don’t know why but that hurts me. Those poor children would be 12 and 13 and that hurts.
So so sorry for your loss Nelba I really am.
She is still in your heart
That is incredibly sad.
The world is not fair, it never has been and it never will be.
I wish the prayers I send out would actually help. I'm sorry for the senseless loss that all these families have to endure.
The world is not fair.
It's been 10 years without her .... rest in peace baby ava I know you a teenager in heaven now hope you having fun up there ♥️
This is irredeemable, Ana Grace - all the children - should be down here with her family, as a teenager in school safe, learning, socializing, getting as much out of the teenage life, not victimized by gun violence. That’s an unforgivable curse.
when you start crying at 0:01
She would be in fifth or sixth grade by now. She would be 12. She’s older than a lot of my friends and me.
I am literally melting on the inside 😞
So sad, I am very sorry for her loss and the other families that lost children.
I dont wanna be that person but I feel like their daughter gets talked about the least out of the sandy hook victimns because you know she the only black kid that died
Stop saying that it’s fake because it’s not fake
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
We will never know the feeling until it happens. Gun laws are important.
Why are the Nastiest people on Earth always in the comments on these videos?!
right, so many communists its sickening, luckily the left is being brought down by their own hubris, Stay healthy everyone. Reject the luciferian lefts attempts at seizing power this reaks of soetoros America all over again.
Freshtex Blackman - Simple answer: Because that's where Satan lurks, in the shadows and darkness of people's hearts.
they aren't, they are to busy running the world.
It sucks that Luciferianism is so often lumped into a political group. Ugh. I've been a satanist for as long as I can remember and I'm a Libertarian who is pro gun. Far from a Communist.
What is it like to lose a child to a murderer? Fundamentally no different no matter what implement was used.
Lord Jesus l feel the same way !!!! At least !!!!! Bla bla bla .I lost my 40 year old husband to cancer in 2008 and you won't believe the things said to me. To this day l am still a wreck 😪
It’s a tragedy all around, truly devastating. But just because there’s some crazies doesn’t mean we make the jump to gun control. It’s in-beaded in the constitution, we have the right to bare arms. If you strip people of their guns it would only leave us more vulnerable to any kind of threat, foreign or domestic. If someone’s nuts , they will find a way to either obtain a gun, or make a bomb etc etc. More of the focus should be on mental health. STOP BLAMING GUNS! You can have the strictest gun laws and if someone is fucked up in fucked up in the head they will find a way to carry out their agenda. The percentage of people who actually commit these acts is substantially small, very very small.
so was prohibition, "in-beaded" in the constitution.
Javier Garcia Someone who GETS IT
@@neverevenheardofit sophist idiot.
If someone with a gun was there, the shooting would have been stopped.
I am so sorry for your loss and the cruelty of the people who harass you because of your loss.
Idk how I feel about this but I do know that no matter how much time has passed I still to this day cannot talk about the child that I lost without uncontrollably sobbing... I just don’t know how anyone could keep their composure so well. Maybe she’s a stronger person than I but even as I typed this ‘tid-bit about my little one I still got that knot in my throat; you know... that lump that won’t go away until at least one tear wells up enough to be wiped away? That’s what I didn’t feel from this but then again who am I to judge when opinions are like assholes?? 🧐🤷🏽♀️
Katie Fucking Bug how willing would you be to go do an hour long interview.
Do you have any reason to make it a race issue like this woman did, and laugh about it.
All of this is fun control propoganda. Somehow, still no tears, and horrible explanations of their kids he was amazing n smart
Oh, and He LOVED GUN CONTROL.
Wtf???
What triumph of death of a child? Didn't she say don't do that to ppl, but what about the gun control you got out of it. What a pile of garbage. Vice should honestly be ashamed
It’s because she’s an actress playing a role describing an event that never occurred. The Sandyhook massacre was a fabrication of epic proportions ...Nobody died and that’s why nobody cried.
You are an amazing mother. Know that.
So sad I am so sorry for your loss.
At least you have No tears
How do you know
The number of thumbs down on this is sickening. Some people have no souls.
Just because you don't get why it has bad ratings doesn't mean people have no souls. It means you're simply quick to judge without spending the time to figure out why it would have bad ratings. Sounds like your soul isn't too great huh?
Oh please dude... I know exactly why. Just look at the comments and you'd know why in an instance too. Just because fearmongering and racism are bad things in my book and not yours doesn't mean my soul's taken one for the team.
Fearmongering and racism are aren't bad in my book? How did you come to that conclusion? Such a warped view.
50,000 Americans died by Gun violence in Vietnam. I'm am happy that as a young person I was around guns because when I went to war at the behest of the country I was not in foreign territory. As a result my experience there was one in which my mom didn't have to suffer the experience of losing a son to gun violence. The cure for this is not elimination of guns but the elimination of violence in whole. As a police officer my weapon protected many but I know that an armed populace had more a chance of survival when I could not be there.
If I had lost my child in a shooting with more questions than answers, I would be the FIRST person to be demanding answers to why my child was murdered and who was behind it. Seeking the truth is NOT a lack of compassion, it is an ACT OF COMPASSION.
If you think this event is cut and dry, just a disturbed kid who snapped and shot up a school, I challenge you to look deeper. I’ve been studying every detail I can find about this shooting for years (and more recently a few others...Vegas, Parkland, Borderline...) and I’ve come up with more holes in the official narrative and more questions that I started with.
Since when is desiring truth a bad thing or an insult to those who lost loved ones in these events? There is something very wrong and very “off” about so many parts to this narrative that it is beyond concerning. If, God forbid, anything like this ever happened to one of my loved ones, I would want to know the WHOLE truth and would be thankful to those who never give up seeking it. I don’t know what I believe happened exactly, but I do know that what we are told happened absolutely does not match up to the audio, visual, forensic evidence and the events prior to and following are beyond sketchy. There is something very wrong here and it should rightly strike fear in the hearts of every American.
I just here for the deplorable comments
I remember the day this happened...it was so tragic.
Whoever disliked this video is disrespectful that’s rude of a sick man who would kill 26 people even 6 year olds
27. Everyone always forgets Nancy.
Wow i am eleven and if that little was still here she would been the same age as me because today was my eleventh birthday
so brave and accurate and sad of her to say that if her child of color had died anywhere else she would not have been given the same recognition
If police never fired a shot and Adam died at 9:40:03, then who fired the shot at 9:46:54?
My assumption is that cognitive dissonance is keeping people from acknowledging it.
he killed himself
@@lemon.c0rd With a bullet to the back of the head and exited out the front top portion of his skull.
people value guns more than each other. ppl won't let go of guns but we will let go of loved ones
Do you agree with Wayne Carver that the people of Newton should be worried that Sandy Hook could come crashing down on them?
Thank you for this beautiful message.. I could not imagine the pain. You are so very brave..💕💕💕
I dont understand why people assume this was a hoax? can someone please explain the reasoning behind this thought?
Wow everything she said in this is spot on she is so wise and smart it’s great that she is doing something to honor her daughters name❤️
Ah man this is sad 😔
💔💔💔
Who disliked this?
The ones with no empathy.
I live a 15 minute drive from Newtown. What she stated is the truth. She and her family are people of color. If they were not living in Newtown, they would not have been given the extra attention by the media. Newtown is a nice quaint plush town where there are not many people of other races living there. The cost of living there is very high as it is in Fairfield county right next to the New York State line. If her family was in the inner city where the costs are lowered (still high) not much attention would have been on them. But, because it was 6 and 7 year olds & almost all white population, main stream media was at the forefront. Sad that society is like that as a life is a life no matter what the skin tone is.
OMG my heart goes out to this woman and her family. I couldn't imagine losing a child. God bless her.
No one does deserve this.
R.i.p 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
This comment section needs some Big Money Salvia
whats the difference between losing a child to a stabbing and gun violence......?
Greater capacity for a higher body count in a small time frame.
Amen!! On what you said about the people saying "Well at least....theyre in a better place.." You are SOOO right!
I would even take it so far as to say that it is offensive. To say "at least" she is in a "better" place? BETTER? I mean I get people that say in typically aren't saying with malice, obviously, and perhaps without much thought at all; just saying a cliche they've heard. As I listened further I realize that this woman believes in heaven, but saying those "comfort phrases" particularly to people who don't believe in that stuff is definitely offensive.
Again, I realize the ppl saying that are saying it because I mean, what really can you say to a mother or father who has lost their child?
But instead of saying things without thought, like so many of us do, think. And don't say to a mother/father who has lost their child (or anyone that has lost a loved one) "At least they're in a better place."
Because these children should he down here right now. What happened on 12/14/2012 was a crime against humanity and irredeemable.
Bro that’s my last name
i am so sorry i lost my sister
Adam Lanza took the lives of the children using a gun. Yes, guns need to be controlled but I think it's weird/distracting not to blame the actual culprit first and foremost before we then look at the tool secondly. As we have seen recently; when guns aren't available these sick individuals will use vehicles or home made explosives using over the counter substances. Mental health is a bigger threat and should be the focus rather than any tool used in these killings.
Sorry for your loss however it ain’t the Guns.
But muh guns! And muh Liberty!
Me and ana are the same age. I feel soo horrible
I hope you find away to move on.
there will probably be a day where America finally sees sense and puts forward legislation for comprehensive gun reform. There was a time in America (and around the world) where slavery was thought to be normal, but nowadays we realise that it is absolutely awful and should never have happened.
Im the same age as the kids who were shot t years ago i was 6 aswell in the 1st grade
At least she doesn't need to pay child support...
I don’t see one member of this poor poor family here... what’s that tell you?
If that child had a gun, there would be no gun violence
Alias Fakename
You gotta be kidding me. Do you really think any child is smart enought to use a gun?
I don't make political decisions based on emotion.
I feel for all the parents who lost there babies that day.
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Solo sad 😞😞😞😞
This is exactly why we need armed guards or police at schools. Politicians and actors get armed guards. Banks, Malls, even shopping centers have armed guards....our children are more important than a bank or store!
And people say it should be 100% of ok to own something like a fucking assault rifle.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Did you get your house paid for before you moved out of town?
Alex Jones is gone, banned, deleted , terminated. Even PayPal closed his account and said he was banned from using the service ! Working hard to get them all taken down. Plus Alex Jones & Wolfgang Halbig are being sued for OVER 4 million !! All died in July & August of 2018! Leonard Pozner v Alex Jones Case # : D-1-GN-18-001842 345th District Court of Travis County, Texas &. Neil Heslin V Alex Jones Case # : D-1-GN-001835. in 261st District Court of Travis County, Texas PLUS IN CT. Lafferty v Jones Case # @18cv01156. Connecticut District Court &. Sherlack V Jones Case # @-cv-1269. US District Court of District of Conneticut. (. motions filed to go back to state court ). Note > the 2 in Connecticut name Halbig as a defendant and plaintiffs include FBI agent William Aldenberg . JONES & HALBIG will. be destroyed , annihilated, bankrupted . Look what happened to insane James Tracy, fired from FAU . Lost lawsuit and thousands of dollars. Tracy has been ripped apart and stomped on !! Annihilated !! VICTORY WINNING
Lord have mercy. 🙏🏽