Yeah, some fools hijacked the og anonymous name. Don't forget, og anonymous was 4chan, and battle toads and irl raids, the "anonymous" now that makes vids is not them anymore
Years ago in New York , there was a problem with crime . And vigilante started riding the subway to do what the NPD couldn’t . Curtis sleewa was the head of the organization “ guardian angles “ . That vigilante group still rides the subway today . As far as I know . But they work in colaberation with the police department , for free . AND IT WORKS !
Dude, your talking about over 40 years ago, I was a kid when they would ride the subways cause I would see them. If it’s being done today it would have to be covertly. People can be targets dressed or looking the same, it’s a whole different world man. There are more, or equal illegal guns than legal guns in the world. I say 2 teams of three riding the subway cars next to each other-watching their 6. and keeping eye contact, or visual confirmation of each other.
@@aaronperelmuter8433 yea it means whoever went on air/ video wearing a mask isn't anyone of actual validation. Meaning anyone can throw on a mask and say they're so and so leader of anonymous. Great for fear mongering journalism!
The problem with your statement is that your innocent until proven guilty...that does not mean that your sister is mad at you and then tells authorities that you are a terrorist!! That's what's wrong with red flag laws!! But freedom of speech shouldn't only be for CIA AND ANONYMOUS!!! Why can the say anything as long as its "LABELING TERRORISTS "????? You can...and CIA has.....LABELED ANONYMOUS as terrorists in past....and when you include the government...your finished with what work you were doing!! As Ronald Reagan said..."The worse 9 words that you can hear from your government is..."I'm from the government and I'm here to help!!"..
Terrorist is just a dirty word the establishment uses to smear decent. That should be obvious when the same mouthpieces have no problem with violence being used against civilians for political means that benefit them.
I must agree 100% with #Discordian from Anonymous because I understand that its entire idea and organization would start to break down from within if its trusted members started to tamper with its foundation, whether they had good intentions or not. Deviating from the very core belief that defines its purpose and from which it draws the strength upon which its entire core idea and organization firmly rests would be a devastating path to pursue. An analogy to what’s at risk is what happened to journalism and our mainstream media. They went from being the Fourth Estate, whose purpose was to scrutinize those in power, to becoming their mouthpiece, spreading misinformation and propaganda to shape the common people’s view of reality in response to the current narrative that is being dictated by a poorly hidden puppet master who has been laughing at us from behind the veil for a very long time.
Anonymous who makes these videos is a group, the original anonymous comes from 4chan, and has influenced the world on monumental levels. 4chan has given you words like "win" and "fail", motivational poster memes, the og memes, all memes, started on 4chan. They memed Donald Trump into presidency just for the lolz. All information filters through 4chan first, as well. It's no surprise that Epstein's death was first heard on 4chan, hours before any news or journal published it. Just so you know
Idk where you're from, but I grew up in Detroit and reporting a murder in progress is 100% considered snitching by way more people than you seem to understand
These people are saving lives. If you think otherwise look and see what happens to girls who get education after age 6. The time of controlling people with holy wars or religions should be long over, we have the light to not fear the darkness. Science shows us we can do so much better. Thank you to all who help and support those who are very vulnerable.
@@docbenway1082 I feel sorry for you then. Btw what does it mean "more people than you"? "People" is a plural, so it's ofc always more than me as I am a single person.
11:30 he wanted to say the hacking capabilities of us government are far greater than anonymous and they use those capabilities all the time but that comes with the procedure of crossing the red tape.
The NSA is basically lawless (as is the US government in reality), but that does not per se make them more effective than independent hackers. It's a bit like saying the CIA is the best intelligence organisation based on the fact it is well funded and US-based. However nobody really knows, least of all the CIA (or NSA in the previous situation). Such is the nature of covert activities. It's a risk business.
Sneakers: no one will discover who I am by wearing this masks. **wears identifiable rings, bracelets, ear rings, hair style, un-modded voice, height, build, purse, clothes, surrounding neighborhood... etc**
AI facial recondition does not much more than a slice of a face around the eye/brow area, to give a pretty accurate guess, as to who the person is, if the face is in the database to mach to.
Muddled is the word, the interconnections between these groups! Spy games! Best at it are the psychopaths and sociopaths, if they're good actors! You apparently limit intelligence! So no!
INDEED!! and I said the exact same thing in my comment. only you were far more economical with your words, LoL!!😄 because, as I'm surely going to be again here, I was very long-winded. too much in my thoughts & feelings, hahaha!🙃🙄 but what continues to be scary is that it seems the NSA and/or social media FIRST continues to track all we do [stating the obvious]. because just like other examples I won't bother citing, I learned about GhostSec existing only within the past 18 hours. and YES, this video covers a topic I've been paying attention to for years..but the very specific mention of GhostSec makes me think tptb are only getting faster, are becoming more efficient at what Snowden revealed. and side note: never understood why so many of the most vocal of the public were more upset at Ed Snowden for being a whistleblower than they were upset about WHAT he revealed. #high strangeness.
@@DiandraStarShine you should be really questioning why visa is paying $2billion in fines for ch1ld p0rn and jpmorgan is paying $300million for s3x tr4fficking but they are allowed to do business still. Clearly the government supports and funds these criminal activities.
No No. See... When they were "freedom fighters" in Syria (which both Reps and Dems agreed we should have no involvement with) they were fine. After the US govt armed, trained and funded them and they crossed into other countries, it was then that they became an enemy. You know. Like just about every single other ally we have had over the last 100 years
I remember when ISIS first appeared on the mass media. Obama said, "We didn't see this coming." I couldn't believe that the world's most comprehensive surveillance system failed to detect the build-up to deploying thousands of armed men and Toyota pick-ups in desert. Mind- blowing.
it will get people killed, because there will ALWAYS be thousands and thousands of people who ARE MORE THEN WILLING to go to that level.... so either you join them and get to them first, or they get to you first.
Right? That's like a country saying, "You've bombed us 75 times but, we aren't going to do it back because we aren't going to stoop to your level!"...???
@@tysonhoward1748 they went from being independent black hats way back in the day, then a bunch of script kiddies started running around using the name after the "Hackers on Steroids" report. Then the Hacktivist movement really kicked up leading up to occupy wall street, and I think around Wikileaks is when three letter agencies started cracking down/busting heads. After that, Anonymous basically meant "FBI Honeypot" or "wannabe guy fawkes mask losers" for a while. Until the Sino-Russian intelligence and propaganda wings started coordinating over the last decade or so, and now you have agitprop groups bearing the name too.
I can think of at least 100 problems with this. They call themselves anonymous, doesn't exactly scream accountability. Hackers on steroids doesn't scream integrity. Sitting behind 7 proxies doesn't scream transparency.
@@Trogramming Yes because if I'm coming after a terrorist group I'm gonna be showing off my face, trying to link them as many times as I can back to me. Because I'm sure that's safe and totally not gonna get me liveleaked. You little goofball they don't hide to show off how "kind and transparent" they are just for show, there's a reason to hide your info when you're targeting someone like ISIS. But yeah, 100 problems with this surely.
Ha! You're being facetious, right? Anonymous, both the adjective and the group are the antithesis of transparency. Without transparency, integrity and accountability are meaningless words.
lol! I too am a curious viewer. Don’t worry too much about that aspect. The important thing is to not let our minds be distracted or mislead by disinformation and propaganda. It can be difficult sometimes though to differentiate 🫣
my brother, I don't know if you are aware but Vice filed for bankruptcy a year ago and is currently selling off parts of itself and cutting hundreds of jobs, there is no new content coming
And? ... are you new to the internet? They repost content. Seriously don't understand people who complain about a completely normal modern practice all news orgs and content creators use.
@@-xxMelissaxx- Yeah it has probably nothing to do with losing the clicks/income from motherboard going completely tits up from going woke. #gowokegobroke
@11:10 - Easily the BEST question of this whole video. You can see in his face, before he answers, the hundreds of scenarios going through his head. His answer though - just might have been perfect.
THIS! This is reporting. Actively going out to BOTH sides of arguments regardless of your bias and reporting your finding without bias. Asking all the right questions and still sharing the answers regardless of your own ideals. If mainstream news outlets put this level of dedication to their ‘stories’ I’d wager their wouldn’t be as large of a divide in America.
She's not unidentifiable... Her whole ears and earrings and hairline etc so much is there. I could see her eyes fine, enough of lid shape etc... this is a failure at hiding anything. Anyone who knows her or has seen her knows exactly who that is
@@Vile_Entity_3545 that was the entire point of my comment. Or did you somehow miss that? I didn't say "if vice closes". I said "when...". Because everybody knows this.
Yes, very similar to the way Seinfeld and Frasier reruns are keeping humor and comedy alive. What ever would we do in 2024 without Vice keeping us up to date with the breaking news of 2016.
yet we have the SAME clowns making the laws enforcing them ( selectively ) and controlling what we call DEMOCRACY. this is NOT democracy its a democracy in its demise.
And given the passage of time, which do you think has likely occurred; more of Anonymous has partnered (willingly or through arrest) with the CIA or might the majority have returned to the original ethos of Anonymous?
Remember when we were just anonymous, wearing wigs, then masks and harassing bad people, closing bad businesses, lending credit to legit causes that needed attention-and just maybe hacking a tiny bit? I’ll say it: I miss OG 4Chan Anonymous.
Imagine living in a banana republic and thinking you live in a Democracy. Now Imagine you don't understand that Democracy is mob rule. The taxation (theft) from King George was only a fraction of what's exhorted from us under "Representative Republic" rule. Our supposedly unalienable rights have been stripped. But you're not even aware enough to be upset nevermind do anything about it.
lol, you can ONLY imagine living in a democracy. this is socialism, full blown. Since 1913. just because today's a little better than yesterday, doesn't mean everything is OK. The only thing that has improved is medicine, and we got that knowledge by studying old NAZI experiments. SAFE SPACE? lol, all our representatives do is provoke profit driven wars, threaten our neighbors with nuclear annihilation and pay off neighbors who threaten us with nuclear annihilation.
@@riiddisbuk2496 Yup, both the left and the right can't see their own hypocrisy. Government is force and always becomes corrupt because force is immoral and power attracts psychopaths like flies to dung. I don't want to be ruled by anyone, not a mob or a banana republic, or a Monarch. Voluntaryism is the only moral path forward. Trump had already proven to be one of "them".
@@MommaLousKitchen Red tape is a construction of Government, who has never an will never abide by the same rules imposed on you. Cruelty is allowed because people falsely believe that the very authority that oppressed you is the solution, giving up their control to do nothing except perhaps complain to people who don't care. Why do good men do nothing? Because they expect the corrupted system to do it for them.
out of the kindness of our hearts, this is for those who are allergic to reading video descriptions. and also for those who have genuine reading challenges [dyslexia, etc.❣💛💛💙💚💚]. but first: I understand this mention of Ms. "Sneaker" refers to a later part of this report but I can't help but I'm wondering WHY she doesn't know how to properly disguise herself?? because that was a pathetic attempt [weak mask, a clear voice, hair, complexion/neck folds, etc. also because SERIOUSLY?? makes it seem like she might be a fake Anonymous member? but even IF she's really a part of the loose collective and even I she's doing good work maybe she also has other issues?? which don't allow her to realize how much she's revealing about herself?? also, *WHYtf* doesn't the journalist help her be more discrete about who she is?? I mean, he can't be THAT desperate for a story?? anyway, this video is a 'rewind,' a replay of a video posted way back when. and as the current/time of this post description says: "This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016." that's my primary point - or at least one of them. also because even though it's probably obvious to those who aren't new to being aware of terrorism, socio-political government(s) issues, etc., there are people waking up every day & also many who are, literally, born every day who grow up and learn about these issues FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME..when they're old enough/mature enough to become aware. and yeah, I think it's weird that any 'member' of Anonymous - who I may not totally agree with everything they do but who I have a lot of respect for - doesn't understand the wisdom of the old saying regarding how sometimes: 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend.' which as far as I've always understood it means that, for the time being, this loosely affiliated group of individuals who make up the team called, "Anonymous," each one of them CAN actually afford to MOMENTARILY set aside their EGO need to always be right..just long ENOUGH to help END child sexpoloitation [because have they NOT heard that both boys & girls have been such victims?? why would they ever deny themselves the opportunity to end it?? unless they actually think that aspect of it al is not a problem?? #priorities!!]?? and why can't they set aside their ego's needs just long ENOUGH to stop little boys & girls & also teens from being trained to sacrifice their own lives in order to carry out ISIL 'missions??' so, YES, they ARE "...aligning with..." various governments' powers so children can be protected and saved and freed by setting aside, momentarily, differences they have with governments - those that commit acts a lot of us don't agree with AT ALL. and they're still, afaik, continuing to do this long enough for some factions of the WORST of humanity to be stopped from continuing on with their evil deeds. any other attitude and maybe only imho, is egoic, selfish & 100% immature. also, that last question? because of course Anonymous will "remain the same." because there was never a time when each & every single person who was/is a part of it was monolithic in their perspectives. since there have likely always been those who slipped info to governments to help cause terrible people & groups to be taken down and believing the opposite is, also imho, quite naïve.
That's why they covered themselves in vaseline and pubes and ran into scientology churches - the CIA had nothing better to do. Also CIA agents are fat and balding neckbeards for some reason.
Thank you!! Member of the real Anonymous were arrested over a decade ago and Intelligence has been cosplaying as them over since. The Twitter feed is hilarious. All the more recent posts were produced by the Ancient Aliens production crew.
@@AllyGrayyou wish... You aren't wrong that some gov try to get in on some stuff like just trying to join chat rooms... But there's hundreds of groups on their own missions because the gov isn't doing anything... There was one I'll never forget. Gov killing it's people throwing them in a pit and burning them... Group chat helped each other find those people to clean out their credit cards and stuff and get it locked/frozen... That's one of many.
4:04 Okay, this is just silly. "Okay camera guy, record me walking out of the court house from my case. I'm going to pretend you're not there and look distraught." Like what are you doing?
i started during the interview and I never thought I would kinda agree with a vice video not perfect but definitely fair coverage of slightly different perspectives.
Give me a break. If you're claiming anonymous and attacking ISIS, you are CIA/NSA. Even if you're working for free. In addition, if you have lived in the US, Russia, China, Middle East, Europe. Just remember, whichever side you support, is the side that you want to control the world. If you don't like living somewhere, don't support. If you've only lived in one place, stay out of the drama, or take some vacations. It's fairly obvious which side is supportable.
anonymous is a collective. so you can’t say anonymous as a whole has collaborated with the govt bc that’s quite literally public enemy #1. if anything a small part of them collaborated with them, but they aren’t truly apart of anonymous imo, bc they’re literally going against the bare fundamentals of what the group stands for and stands against.
thank you for adding the "imo" - it's your belief and you have a right to it even if people who did this Op might believe the opposide and don't see themselves as collaborators. All in all still vaild point.
hey Vice, when you repost old content, pls let us know in the title... K THX BYE
Agreed because I had no idea until I looked at all the comments complaining
😂😂 how true
You ruined the old content as fresh content!
Its in the description…😅
Yeah I clicked this with the strongest sense of deja vu. Thanks for validating my sanity.
"The CIA and the CIA vs the CIA."
😂😂😂😂
right, basically lol
how is CIA ISIS
@@LockOnInc you ever wonder why ISIS never ONCE attacked Israel?
@@LockOnInc its not. ISIS is Mossad, which both are funded and supported by america
This video is from 2016….
this should be higher in the comment section
In case you missed it, VICE is bankrupt and almost defunct. They are trying anything to stay afloat.
Wait, so Vice is still pretending that there's such a thing as "anonymous"?
Ok, Whatever
Weird
Every video has the air date in the description. Vice is uploading old content bc they went bankrupt recently
@@SirBilliam96 Wokeness = brokeness
"Tell us Anon is the CIA without telling us Anon is the CIA"
Yeah, some fools hijacked the og anonymous name. Don't forget, og anonymous was 4chan, and battle toads and irl raids, the "anonymous" now that makes vids is not them anymore
Report War Crimes and Espionage: Axis of Evil /Communist MAGA: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, satellites
Years ago in New York , there was a problem with crime . And vigilante started riding the subway to do what the NPD couldn’t . Curtis sleewa was the head of the organization “ guardian angles “ . That vigilante group still rides the subway today . As far as I know . But they work in colaberation with the police department , for free . AND IT WORKS !
Surprised the Guardian angels would be allowed to "protect" & not gt sued from NYC?🤔😂
The police of all Western Democratic states are on the wrong side and if they continue persecuting their own citizens, there will be a backlash.
The police were not happy with them & he had a hit put on him because he was stepping on mafioso toes
@@Cedawood aren’t you glad that story came out ? Now you don’t necessarily need to worry about your wife and daughters being trafficked so much .
Dude, your talking about over 40 years ago, I was a kid when they would ride the subways cause I would see them. If it’s being done today it would have to be covertly. People can be targets dressed or looking the same, it’s a whole different world man. There are more, or equal illegal guns than legal guns in the world. I say 2 teams of three riding the subway cars next to each other-watching their 6. and keeping eye contact, or visual confirmation of each other.
remember people, anonymous is a movement not a group.
Anonymous are the feds now. Have you been asleep?
And that makes ALL the difference. Now I’ll be able to sleep better, knowing that.
It's a bowel movement.
@@arnoldvezbon6131 😂
@@aaronperelmuter8433 yea it means whoever went on air/ video wearing a mask isn't anyone of actual validation. Meaning anyone can throw on a mask and say they're so and so leader of anonymous. Great for fear mongering journalism!
How anyone thinks ratting out terrorist is wrong there is something morally wrong with that person.
The problem with your statement is that your innocent until proven guilty...that does not mean that your sister is mad at you and then tells authorities that you are a terrorist!!
That's what's wrong with red flag laws!!
But freedom of speech shouldn't only be for CIA AND ANONYMOUS!!!
Why can the say anything as long as its "LABELING TERRORISTS "?????
You can...and CIA has.....LABELED ANONYMOUS as terrorists in past....and when you include the government...your finished with what work you were doing!!
As Ronald Reagan said..."The worse 9 words that you can hear from your government is..."I'm from the government and I'm here to help!!"..
Probably die-hard muslims that in their twisted and manipulated view of life, they see ISIS as the good guys
All historical revolutionaries were terrorist of their time, they just prevailed.
Terrorist is just a dirty word the establishment uses to smear decent. That should be obvious when the same mouthpieces have no problem with violence being used against civilians for political means that benefit them.
how you dont understand that ISIS is israel and the USA when its been proven is beyond stupid.....
Did I hit my head and wake up in 2013? Lmao
Originally aired 2016.
@@vapeking466 Sad to see them publishing all of their old good material after going bankrupt like this.
@@ironhockey116 What you want, a sexy goat maybe?
No, you just hit your head...
@@callusklaus2413they’re going bankrupt ?????
I must agree 100% with #Discordian from Anonymous because I understand that its entire idea and organization would start to break down from within if its trusted members started to tamper with its foundation, whether they had good intentions or not. Deviating from the very core belief that defines its purpose and from which it draws the strength upon which its entire core idea and organization firmly rests would be a devastating path to pursue.
An analogy to what’s at risk is what happened to journalism and our mainstream media. They went from being the Fourth Estate, whose purpose was to scrutinize those in power, to becoming their mouthpiece, spreading misinformation and propaganda to shape the common people’s view of reality in response to the current narrative that is being dictated by a poorly hidden puppet master who has been laughing at us from behind the veil for a very long time.
Bingo.
Beginning, it's all good. That's how they fool the general public.
Anonymous who makes these videos is a group, the original anonymous comes from 4chan, and has influenced the world on monumental levels. 4chan has given you words like "win" and "fail", motivational poster memes, the og memes, all memes, started on 4chan. They memed Donald Trump into presidency just for the lolz. All information filters through 4chan first, as well. It's no surprise that Epstein's death was first heard on 4chan, hours before any news or journal published it. Just so you know
Vice still living from their good videos from 2016... Is sad that they can't produce good videos as in the past
I’m from Tunisia and i’m surprised from the attacks that have been stopped ! Grateful 👏
Do you think the anonymos aka c.i.a stopped the attacks? 😂
@@user-cw3ug9bx5hblud thinks CIA really cares about human rights😁
swatting ISIS is hardly snitching. by such standards, reporting a murder in progress would be a form of snitching
Idk where you're from, but I grew up in Detroit and reporting a murder in progress is 100% considered snitching by way more people than you seem to understand
@@docbenway1082 sounds fckd
These people are saving lives.
If you think otherwise look and see what happens to girls who get education after age 6.
The time of controlling people with holy wars or religions should be long over, we have the light to not fear the darkness. Science shows us we can do so much better.
Thank you to all who help and support those who are very vulnerable.
Reporting a murder in progress is definitely snitching lol what kinda example is that
@@docbenway1082 I feel sorry for you then. Btw what does it mean "more people than you"? "People" is a plural, so it's ofc always more than me as I am a single person.
11:30 he wanted to say the hacking capabilities of us government are far greater than anonymous and they use those capabilities all the time but that comes with the procedure of crossing the red tape.
There is no red tape lol
Lol shadow world is international. National laws are irrelevant.
ISIS was trained and funded by US and israel, Fact!
The NSA is basically lawless (as is the US government in reality), but that does not per se make them more effective than independent hackers. It's a bit like saying the CIA is the best intelligence organisation based on the fact it is well funded and US-based. However nobody really knows, least of all the CIA (or NSA in the previous situation). Such is the nature of covert activities. It's a risk business.
Black and glowing. Anons would never merge with the borg.
Sneakers: no one will discover who I am by wearing this masks.
**wears identifiable rings, bracelets, ear rings, hair style, un-modded voice, height, build, purse, clothes, surrounding neighborhood... etc**
And you think that's not a disguise
AI facial recondition does not much more than a slice of a face around the eye/brow area, to give a pretty accurate guess, as to who the person is, if the face is in the database to mach to.
She is CIA it doesn't matter lol
Report War Crimes and Espionage: Axis of Evil /Communist MAGA: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, satellites
In the 8 years since this video came out, it hasn't aged very well.
how so?
@@snowball441because they own entire countries now and the United States helps them 💀
It's almost as if Anonymous and the CIA were really just the same guys.
dont forget to include isis in that statement
@@GarfieldKartPMC The CIA supplied ISIS with weapons.
Muddled is the word, the interconnections between these groups! Spy games! Best at it are the psychopaths and sociopaths, if they're good actors! You apparently limit intelligence! So no!
They are all the same
@@GarfieldKartPMCheck yeah I’m glad I’m not the only human on the planet that sees this thank you
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
If cia funds and created isis then wouldn’t Isis be the friend? The government is not trying to stop terrorists they are funding it.
Is the enemy within
INDEED!! and I said the exact same thing in my comment.
only you were far more economical with your words, LoL!!😄
because, as I'm surely going to be again here, I was very long-winded.
too much in my thoughts & feelings, hahaha!🙃🙄
but what continues to be scary is that it seems the NSA and/or social media FIRST continues to track all we do [stating the obvious].
because just like other examples I won't bother citing, I learned about GhostSec existing only within the past 18 hours.
and YES, this video covers a topic I've been paying attention to for years..but the very specific mention of GhostSec makes me think tptb are only getting faster, are becoming more efficient at what Snowden revealed.
and side note:
never understood why so many of the most vocal of the public were more upset at Ed Snowden for being a whistleblower than they were upset about WHAT he revealed. #high strangeness.
@@DiandraStarShine you should be really questioning why visa is paying $2billion in fines for ch1ld p0rn and jpmorgan is paying $300million for s3x tr4fficking but they are allowed to do business still. Clearly the government supports and funds these criminal activities.
You dumpkoft . Once your enemy is gone . You are now the enemy
Nice try fed, I'm not gonna believe they're not all in the same boat
Go see a shrink
@@J1nxer333 you sound like a shemale
@@J1nxer333Lol right this guy has a case of main character syndrome thinking he is important enough to be tracked by the government. 😂
@@J1nxer333 Nice try fed, I’m not gonna get voluntarily brainwashed
@@J1nxer333 nice try fed, you can’t psyop me
the implication that the CIA and ISIS are "enemies" is fucking hilarious.
No No. See... When they were "freedom fighters" in Syria (which both Reps and Dems agreed we should have no involvement with) they were fine. After the US govt armed, trained and funded them and they crossed into other countries, it was then that they became an enemy. You know. Like just about every single other ally we have had over the last 100 years
I remember when ISIS first appeared on the mass media. Obama said, "We didn't see this coming." I couldn't believe that the world's most comprehensive surveillance system failed to detect the build-up to deploying thousands of armed men and Toyota pick-ups in desert. Mind- blowing.
This is for the brain dead normies...
@@arnoldvezbon6131 hey i'm not normal
@@Mike-c9j 😂 but you are brain dead?
The US government is the world's worst enemy. The many suffer so the few prosper.
Yeah I love my country but hate my government. They don’t care about us, they have made that abundantly clear.
The “noo you are going down to their level” narrative is dumb. These things need to be fought back.
Yeah, that whole "down to their level" philosophy has no place in combat. It's childishly naive and short sighted.
Don't be silly. The cia and fbi took over anonymous YEARS ago.
it will get people killed, because there will ALWAYS be thousands and thousands of people who ARE MORE THEN WILLING to go to that level.... so either you join them and get to them first, or they get to you first.
Right? That's like a country saying, "You've bombed us 75 times but, we aren't going to do it back because we aren't going to stoop to your level!"...???
I agree, I guess so much double standards in politics has automated their answers, but they do fight back
Yes, let's hear from Patraeus... Famed for his honesty...
Remember when anonymous was just 4chan trolls?
💯🎯⬆️
That was until some of them hacked the CIA. Then, of course, they were faced with an ultimatum; work for them or spend life in prison.
And now it's the CIA. Not a move up, that's for sure.
Pretty much still are.
@@tysonhoward1748 they went from being independent black hats way back in the day, then a bunch of script kiddies started running around using the name after the "Hackers on Steroids" report.
Then the Hacktivist movement really kicked up leading up to occupy wall street, and I think around Wikileaks is when three letter agencies started cracking down/busting heads.
After that, Anonymous basically meant "FBI Honeypot" or "wannabe guy fawkes mask losers" for a while. Until the Sino-Russian intelligence and propaganda wings started coordinating over the last decade or so, and now you have agitprop groups bearing the name too.
Know how you become the director of the CIA? Being a liar of an almost artistic level.
that sounds like any western capitalist institution.
Yep. Like an actor or better yet a lawyer. Saying lawyer sounds a lot like saying liar. A coincidence. I think not.
ISIS and Anonymous both are CIA projects ,they run 100's of these operation .The dictator movie is USA reality .
Nothing ever stays the same, the earlier people realize that the better
The OG annon dude was as raw as it gets. I agree with him
Fully agree he's based. It's strange to see that there are still dudes who follow original ideas.
Anonymous isn't the enemy......they are for integrity, accountability, and transparency ❤
Cringe
I can think of at least 100 problems with this.
They call themselves anonymous, doesn't exactly scream accountability.
Hackers on steroids doesn't scream integrity.
Sitting behind 7 proxies doesn't scream transparency.
@@Trogramming ........because the institutions and powers will throw the book at them for revealing things they don't want public 0_o Uhhhh dderrpp 🙄
@@Trogramming Yes because if I'm coming after a terrorist group I'm gonna be showing off my face, trying to link them as many times as I can back to me. Because I'm sure that's safe and totally not gonna get me liveleaked. You little goofball they don't hide to show off how "kind and transparent" they are just for show, there's a reason to hide your info when you're targeting someone like ISIS. But yeah, 100 problems with this surely.
Ha! You're being facetious, right? Anonymous, both the adjective and the group are the antithesis of transparency. Without transparency, integrity and accountability are meaningless words.
your ability to keep things interesting never ceases to amaze me!
This video is so discombobulated it is twenty times longer than it needed to be! Best of luck.
Now please don't rate every viewer of this video as anonymous, if that's what it is about. There are lots of curious minds in the world including me.
lol! I too am a curious viewer. Don’t worry too much about that aspect. The important thing is to not let our minds be distracted or mislead by disinformation and propaganda. It can be difficult sometimes though to differentiate 🫣
You feeling guilty about something? 😂 You don't need to be participating in a topic to watch a video about it.
You hear that, U.S. government? DO NOT bother investigating me for malicious behaviour in cyberspace!
That's definitely not what this about. I'm confused as to why you'd even think that.
Right, I just figured out my clipboard... 😂
It's definitely not Vice regurgitating old content, AGAIN!
Exactly.... Trying to stay relative.
my brother, I don't know if you are aware but Vice filed for bankruptcy a year ago and is currently selling off parts of itself and cutting hundreds of jobs, there is no new content coming
they went bankrupt they need to make the $120 a month from youtube
And? ... are you new to the internet? They repost content. Seriously don't understand people who complain about a completely normal modern practice all news orgs and content creators use.
@@-xxMelissaxx- Yeah it has probably nothing to do with losing the clicks/income from motherboard going completely tits up from going woke.
#gowokegobroke
@11:10 - Easily the BEST question of this whole video. You can see in his face, before he answers, the hundreds of scenarios going through his head. His answer though - just might have been perfect.
He's probably trying to not go to jail by revealing something he shouldn't LOL.
THIS! This is reporting. Actively going out to BOTH sides of arguments regardless of your bias and reporting your finding without bias. Asking all the right questions and still sharing the answers regardless of your own ideals. If mainstream news outlets put this level of dedication to their ‘stories’ I’d wager their wouldn’t be as large of a divide in America.
the activities mentioned are about 9 years old at this point, I wonder how close to recent documentary info can be shared today ?
Why do you try and make this person unidentifiable and then DO NOT OBFUSCATE HER VOICE.
Or her location, her ethnicity...her appearance? Sloopy job.
Even if you do most of the popular voice cloaking software is easily reversible.
She's not unidentifiable... Her whole ears and earrings and hairline etc so much is there. I could see her eyes fine, enough of lid shape etc... this is a failure at hiding anything. Anyone who knows her or has seen her knows exactly who that is
did no one get the wig? she even played with it at first to draw attention to it... jeez..
It was Obama in his daily outfits 😂
" The Enemy of My Enemy, is My Friend "
We can't lose Vice News. Who's going to run these hard hitting stories when Vice is gone? 🤷🤷
This was posted in 2016
Vice is finished
@@Vile_Entity_3545 that was the entire point of my comment. Or did you somehow miss that? I didn't say "if vice closes". I said "when...". Because everybody knows this.
its over, they are re-posting really old videos
Lol
It's always the ordinary people that take that next step to stop unnecessary violence.
Who else is going to the authorities are to scared to.
@@BryerTheKing1- nobody would blame them ❤
@@eileenahern-ku9nx You'd be surprised then I mean were paying them all we got and more to do there jobs.....
Hey @Vice I fixed the title for you-
*“The CIA vs. The CIA vs. The CIA”*
Why constant reuploads without saying it's a re-upload I really think you are genuinely deliberately misinforming people with that. Good job vice
Description says it's from 2016. Read.
@@-xxMelissaxx- oh true
Seems like a bad idea that a media company would blatantly kill their own credibility but here we are
You can just not watch it. Byeeeee
VICE is defunct and on the verge of completely collapsing. This is a way to keep them afloat.
If anonymous has EVER helped the CIA, I'm unsubscribing now
Ngl, that donut in the tank was pretty sweet 😂
CIA fighting itself again I see
Man postured his hands and said "masters" of government. Must be a traveling man and hasa lot of brothers.
All the people you hide in the videos full names are on the credits lmao
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if u believe they are real
To say “they have free speech “ followed by “they can’t say….” is both funny and heartbreaking.
The fact that we get free videos on RUclips by VICE News is truly a gift; keeping the education and knowledge alive.
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It's a gift indeed.
Vice news is one of the biggest misinformation sources these days.... Topics like this are good but as a whole they are completely void ot credibility
Yes, very similar to the way Seinfeld and Frasier reruns are keeping humor and comedy alive. What ever would we do in 2024 without Vice keeping us up to date with the breaking news of 2016.
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Amen!
The intro clip is dope. Good work!
Superb discussion-thanks gents!
8 yr old video,
yet we have the SAME clowns making the laws enforcing them ( selectively ) and controlling what we call DEMOCRACY. this is NOT democracy its a democracy in its demise.
yes, but its nice for people who hasnt seen it back then
@@pedrinhodam and it's good for people who didn't know that someone points out it's an old video and not current news.
"This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016."
And given the passage of time, which do you think has likely occurred; more of Anonymous has partnered (willingly or through arrest) with the CIA or might the majority have returned to the original ethos of Anonymous?
Remember when we were just anonymous, wearing wigs, then masks and harassing bad people, closing bad businesses, lending credit to legit causes that needed attention-and just maybe hacking a tiny bit? I’ll say it: I miss OG 4Chan Anonymous.
Well said.
>we
Did you take the same set of coffee cups from one interview to the next ? 😂
"It is the responsibility of every citizen to question authority" (Ben Franklin)
I think they are heroes .thank you to everyone who tries to help save lives.
“You Could Be Sitting At Home & Affecting The World.”
Then the powers that control this world are weaker than we all thought
Imagine living in a democracy and enjoying all it's benefit's and spiting in the face of those who have provided that safe space. Crazy.
Imagine living in a banana republic and thinking you live in a Democracy. Now Imagine you don't understand that Democracy is mob rule. The taxation (theft) from King George was only a fraction of what's exhorted from us under "Representative Republic" rule. Our supposedly unalienable rights have been stripped. But you're not even aware enough to be upset nevermind do anything about it.
lol, you can ONLY imagine living in a democracy. this is socialism, full blown. Since 1913. just because today's a little better than yesterday, doesn't mean everything is OK. The only thing that has improved is medicine, and we got that knowledge by studying old NAZI experiments. SAFE SPACE? lol, all our representatives do is provoke profit driven wars, threaten our neighbors with nuclear annihilation and pay off neighbors who threaten us with nuclear annihilation.
To think the CIA would operate within some sort of rules or ethics is insane.
No insults intended here, but I like how your pfp with this comment is Trump :P
They got 'their rules', but not the same as yours or anyone you know, y'right.
@@riiddisbuk2496 Yup, both the left and the right can't see their own hypocrisy. Government is force and always becomes corrupt because force is immoral and power attracts psychopaths like flies to dung. I don't want to be ruled by anyone, not a mob or a banana republic, or a Monarch. Voluntaryism is the only moral path forward. Trump had already proven to be one of "them".
Red tape is really slow and unnecessary occasionally. Imo. It's a big mean world out there. 😏
@@MommaLousKitchen Red tape is a construction of Government, who has never an will never abide by the same rules imposed on you. Cruelty is allowed because people falsely believe that the very authority that oppressed you is the solution, giving up their control to do nothing except perhaps complain to people who don't care. Why do good men do nothing? Because they expect the corrupted system to do it for them.
THE TITLE SHOULD BE
CIA & Anonymous vs :CIA
Thats only for people believes that 9/11 operated by CIA and isreal
These are not the 'Anonymous' primary, they are the 'secondary'.
Great journalism! Well done.
6:38 see how the reporter dodges the question? He made a statement and when challeneged he does a complete 180 from the topic.
Anonymous working together with cia 😂😂
it's like a lion and a deer working together , seems impossible
* It's like right hand and left hand working together.
So the CIA and the CIA vs the CIA😂😂😂
It's surreal 😂
BINGO!!!
Its a fine example of where morals, meet purpose
“And now enough unmanned aerial vehicles” keep an eye on this guys health.
out of the kindness of our hearts, this is for those who are allergic to reading video descriptions. and also for those who have genuine reading challenges [dyslexia, etc.❣💛💛💙💚💚].
but first:
I understand this mention of Ms. "Sneaker" refers to a later part of this report but I can't help but I'm wondering WHY she doesn't know how to properly disguise herself?? because that was a pathetic attempt [weak mask, a clear voice, hair, complexion/neck folds, etc.
also because SERIOUSLY?? makes it seem like she might be a fake Anonymous member?
but even IF she's really a part of the loose collective and even I she's doing good work maybe she also has other issues?? which don't allow her to realize how much she's revealing about herself??
also, *WHYtf* doesn't the journalist help her be more discrete about who she is??
I mean, he can't be THAT desperate for a story??
anyway, this video is a 'rewind,' a replay of a video posted way back when.
and as the current/time of this post description says:
"This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016."
that's my primary point - or at least one of them.
also because even though it's probably obvious to those who aren't new to being aware of terrorism, socio-political government(s) issues, etc., there are people waking up every day & also many who are, literally, born every day who grow up and learn about these issues FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME..when they're old enough/mature enough to become aware.
and yeah, I think it's weird that any 'member' of Anonymous - who I may not totally agree with everything they do but who I have a lot of respect for - doesn't understand the wisdom of the old saying regarding how sometimes:
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend.'
which as far as I've always understood it means that, for the time being, this loosely affiliated group of individuals who make up the team called, "Anonymous," each one of them CAN actually afford to MOMENTARILY set aside their EGO need to always be right..just long ENOUGH to help END child sexpoloitation [because have they NOT heard that both boys & girls have been such victims?? why would they ever deny themselves the opportunity to end it?? unless they actually think that aspect of it al is not a problem?? #priorities!!]??
and why can't they set aside their ego's needs just long ENOUGH to stop little boys & girls & also teens from being trained to sacrifice their own lives in order to carry out ISIL 'missions??'
so, YES, they ARE "...aligning with..." various governments' powers so children can be protected and saved and freed by setting aside, momentarily, differences they have with governments - those that commit acts a lot of us don't agree with AT ALL. and they're still, afaik, continuing to do this long enough for some factions of the WORST of humanity to be stopped from continuing on with their evil deeds.
any other attitude and maybe only imho, is egoic, selfish & 100% immature.
also, that last question?
because of course Anonymous will "remain the same." because there was never a time when each & every single person who was/is a part of it was monolithic in their perspectives.
since there have likely always been those who slipped info to governments to help cause terrible people & groups to be taken down and believing the opposite is, also imho, quite naïve.
Vice shut down. I wonder who's milking the dead cow? Probably CIA 😂
They are online only
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CIA vs ISIS? Nah...
ikr😂 exactly my througts
When you had the cia guy speechless 😂
Could be facing jail time for literally TALKING to someone??? How in the F??
Hypocrites
Lol. Anonymous are a cia pseudonym. 😂😂😂
That's why they covered themselves in vaseline and pubes and ran into scientology churches - the CIA had nothing better to do.
Also CIA agents are fat and balding neckbeards for some reason.
😂They stopped both Isis, Israel and Russia omg they destroyed them😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you!! Member of the real Anonymous were arrested over a decade ago and Intelligence has been cosplaying as them over since. The Twitter feed is hilarious. All the more recent posts were produced by the Ancient Aliens production crew.
@@AllyGrayyou wish... You aren't wrong that some gov try to get in on some stuff like just trying to join chat rooms... But there's hundreds of groups on their own missions because the gov isn't doing anything... There was one I'll never forget. Gov killing it's people throwing them in a pit and burning them... Group chat helped each other find those people to clean out their credit cards and stuff and get it locked/frozen... That's one of many.
@@AllyGray😂😂😂 you can't arrest an idea
War is terrible 😢
4:04 Okay, this is just silly. "Okay camera guy, record me walking out of the court house from my case. I'm going to pretend you're not there and look distraught." Like what are you doing?
Cinematography.....
i started during the interview and I never thought I would kinda agree with a vice video not perfect but definitely fair coverage of slightly different perspectives.
CIA is ISIS & ISIS is CIA, 😂😂😂 ask Obama for it.
Sneaker's def a cop performing for VICE.
Good afternoon
Hello mate
Title should be CIA vs the CIA, how money laundering works in the US top and beyond
This feels oddly old.
Give me a break. If you're claiming anonymous and attacking ISIS, you are CIA/NSA. Even if you're working for free. In addition, if you have lived in the US, Russia, China, Middle East, Europe. Just remember, whichever side you support, is the side that you want to control the world. If you don't like living somewhere, don't support. If you've only lived in one place, stay out of the drama, or take some vacations. It's fairly obvious which side is supportable.
hey tell yourself whatever you need to think to sleep at night
"Anonymous" = The "A" in "CIA"
The "A" is actually for AGENCY.....
@@shy404usernotfound No, it's for "arabs" - as in "Contintually Instigating"
anonymous is a collective. so you can’t say anonymous as a whole has collaborated with the govt bc that’s quite literally public enemy #1. if anything a small part of them collaborated with them, but they aren’t truly apart of anonymous imo, bc they’re literally going against the bare fundamentals of what the group stands for and stands against.
thank you for adding the "imo" - it's your belief and you have a right to it even if people who did this Op might believe the opposide and don't see themselves as collaborators. All in all still vaild point.
Hey are anonymous because anyone could be anonymous. That was the whole point.
remainder that ISIS is so extreme that even Taliban is ageists them
Thanks for the fresh air.....
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This is propaganda.
This is a 2016 episode of Cyberwars
Vice...come back! We miss you!
11:00 epic silent 😂😂😂
Stay united. Don't let the system sell u its not a part of it. I REALLY HONOR THE COMMITMENT TO CHANGE THIS SITUATION. MAY THE LIGHT BE WITH U
Anonymous + Vice = CIA😅😂😂😂❤❤❤
Director of the CIA: 'cyberspace, the internet, is a new combat space'.
They been saying this since day 2000, omfg lol
LOL! I have never Seen a tank drifting before!
She put her fingerprints all over that bar... I'm not going to be anonymous for long
why the hell would "sneaker" wear ANY jewelry? This seems like a very stupid way to "hide"
Within the first 2 minutes it says "2 years ago" and "was killed in 2015"
How old is this video?
The question is what are the US government letting the hackers get away with to get the information they desire
this show was one of the best, very close to mr. robot. You should give ben makuch cyberwar 2.0
If vice did stuff like this consistently, they wouldn't have gone bankrupt
wearing a guy fawkes mask is peak british cigarettetry
I believe its 'cigarettery', or 'cigarettedness', ..