OFFICIAL SONY a7 IV Hands-On pREVIEW: DON’T BUY Until You WATCH!!! (vs Canon R6)

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    This is a Hands-On Preview of the Sony a7 IV. We had a pre-production Sony a7 IV for a few weeks to test out. I wanted to run it through it's paces, put it against the Canon R6 and see if it's a mini Sony a1, or just a solid upgrade to the Sony a7 III. This is NOT A REVIEW, you can not fully review a pre-production camera, as the firmware is not final.
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  • @froknowsphoto
    @froknowsphoto  2 года назад +105

    Remember, this is a pREVIEW since the camera has pre-production firmware on it. It would be misleading to call it a review as you can't and shouldn't be calling pre-production cameras reviews.

    • @ismatec
      @ismatec 2 года назад +4

      Hi Jared! Great review as usual. I've seen the whole 32 min video!! Could you please ask Steven to add a timeline on your tutorials? That would be very useful for as your followers when we want to watch back again one of your videos to go directly to what we are looking for and get the info we need. Thanks a ton! I wish you , Steven and your families tons of good health! Isma

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy 2 года назад +3

      Still waiting for your opinion on that Z9 3rd Teaser...

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 года назад +1

      @@ismatec There's really not a way to do this as we bounce all over the place.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 года назад +3

      @@RyanTroy I think it might be computer generated eye af for the trailer.

    • @RyanTroy
      @RyanTroy 2 года назад +1

      @@froknowsphoto But lets say it isn't.. and you get your hands on it. and its 70% what was shown in the trailer.. will you sell your gear and come back to nikon..

  • @G95G95
    @G95G95 2 года назад +430

    100 years from now, Sony will be making gigapixel bodies that can shoot at a million frames per second, and track a mosquitoes eyelash, but it'll still come with a recycled Gameboy Color lcd...

    • @architects-io3xr
      @architects-io3xr 2 года назад +16

      100 years from now there will be no cameras. An organic micro camera will be transplated in your eye. Giga Photos and videos will be taken and stored on a chip next to your ear. Interchangable lenses will be part of glasses we will wear to read and watch our laptop while on the train and while sking downhill.

    • @TaavP
      @TaavP 2 года назад +21

      At this rate in 1000 years we will be extint xD

    • @sahilmeena8018
      @sahilmeena8018 2 года назад +13

      @@architects-io3xr 100 years from now they still won't be able to find who tf asked.

    • @aniruddhasphotography
      @aniruddhasphotography 2 года назад

      Where are you ??
      Eagerly waiting for your biased z9 reviews lol 🤣🤣

    • @ytsub7
      @ytsub7 2 года назад

      @@sahilmeena8018 @architechs 2006 what happens in 10 years?

  • @aramarileena
    @aramarileena 2 года назад +12

    I viewed the video in it’s entirety. I just placed an order for this camera after renting out the a7iii a couple of times. It is my dream camera and I cannot wait to further my skills with this gear! Wishing prosperity and good fortune to all who are starting out their professional career like myself.

  • @bardascardosas7052
    @bardascardosas7052 2 года назад +11

    From all “launch” reviews, this one was the best one, you actually showed photos, problems, comparison with R6. Well done 👍

  • @RazeTheShadow
    @RazeTheShadow 2 года назад +7

    I wanna say thank you Jared and everyone who made this video. Always liked how you guys present these topics. I have been here for some years and I love the consistency of quality and style. Not to mention the improvments. Keep up the good work! :)

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 2 года назад +58

    I ordered the A7IV as a 2nd body to go with my A1 - the reasoning behind this was the same processor and menu system, as well as the same body. It's like the A1s little brother, bringing in the brain of the A1 to a cheaper body. I can set it up the same way, it feels the same, and has the same tracking tech. Perfect for this situation.

    • @ClassicMotorFilms
      @ClassicMotorFilms 2 года назад +1

      I have similar thoughts to make it 2nd to my A7Siii. Same color science too, although a different sensor, but would be good to see how close it really is.

  • @projectmorf
    @projectmorf 2 года назад +5

    Excellent “preview” vid, hopefully you will do a full setting vid like u did for the a7iii as it was very helpful 👍

  • @michaelp3736
    @michaelp3736 2 года назад

    Just wanted to say I appreciate your videos. While initially I guessed you were more focused on viewers, watching for the last year or so, your content is very good, your understanding and quality reviewing is very good and humor is always appreciated! Good job.

  • @kore996
    @kore996 2 года назад +16

    👍🏼 just in case my thumbs up to the video wasn’t enough to know I made it to the end of the video lol.
    Great video, I’m running the R6 and appreciated the comparison. It won’t change anything for me because I still love my R6 and it suits my needs but just interesting to know what’s out there.

  • @penguin_edits
    @penguin_edits 2 года назад +116

    hey, im not sure if you have already done this, but it think a cool video idea would be to compare the uncompressed and compressed versions of sony’s raw files. this would help people decide whether or not they would like to use the full fps on their cameras

    • @SouthAfricanWanderer
      @SouthAfricanWanderer 2 года назад +4

      Or simply mention what the compressed RAW quality is.

    • @ryne1226
      @ryne1226 2 года назад +2

      What exactly is uncompressed and comprssed files? Sorry if i sound dumb. I just starting taking photos last month on my own

    • @penguin_edits
      @penguin_edits 2 года назад +8

      @@ryne1226 uncompressed files contain all the data in an image = the highest quality photo with the highest possible leeway in editing. compressed are smaller files that will look fine, but might not be able to be edited as heavily

    • @ryne1226
      @ryne1226 2 года назад

      @@penguin_edits and i can choose to have my photos taken that way in the settings menu?

    • @penguin_edits
      @penguin_edits 2 года назад +2

      @@ryne1226 depends on your camera. most cameras support raw, not all of them support compressed raw, since thats a higher end feature. i would just look up if your camera model supports it

  • @VenkatAkkinepally
    @VenkatAkkinepally 2 года назад +3

    Hey Jared! The video was fantastic but it would be great if you can include video chapters as part of your videos, really helps with hopping around to different topics, especially on a 30+ minute video. Thank you so much!

  • @BryceWomeldurf
    @BryceWomeldurf 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the great breakdown. I've watched a few reviews/previews and for some reason until I watched this I was missing that the slight warping issue was only with the electronic shutter at high speed. For some reason I was thinking the crop in the 4k video was all the time, but here I'm seeing it's only with 60fps+. Not really as big of a deal as I thought, so that's good.

  • @AfricanSunProductions
    @AfricanSunProductions 2 года назад

    Great video once again. Very cool camera also. The A7 series is definitely on my list to buy whenever I need a new camera in this category. Thanks Jared!

  • @nroose
    @nroose 2 года назад +11

    Love that 14 mm close up shot, with him putting his face horizontally to fill up the frame! Great composition!

    • @Elazarko
      @Elazarko 2 года назад

      where is that in the video?

    • @nroose
      @nroose 2 года назад

      @@Elazarko I think I was referring to ruclips.net/video/z0jOdqQ73FA/видео.html

  • @bluseo
    @bluseo 2 года назад +114

    Shoot wide open with higher ISO and lowest possible shutter speed - there is your guide to shooting in low light...

    • @jimmyhawke
      @jimmyhawke 2 года назад +3

      Works for me!

    • @Yankeededandy62
      @Yankeededandy62 2 года назад +10

      Funny. I try to keep ISO as low as possible to avoid grainy images. Some of the current full frame cameras are amazing when it comes to dynamic range and recovering details from dark images in post.

    • @GoProActions
      @GoProActions 2 года назад +5

      @@Yankeededandy62 Thats beacause most of the sensors are ISOless. Unless you have dual native ISO ofc.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  2 года назад +65

      @@Yankeededandy62 grain is fine

    • @rgreeneish
      @rgreeneish 2 года назад +3

      Iso is your friend.

  • @SamRino
    @SamRino 2 года назад +1

    just preordered today. I have the A1 already but i wanted this as a second body for vloggin, video etc.....Thank you for saying this was a "Preview" wish others that got the camera early would take your lead on that.

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 2 года назад +8

    I am impressed by how many improvements there are in here. I have an A7iii as a backup body/2nd angle camera and this might be worth buying as a replacement.
    One thing I was hoping you’d touch on, the A7iii was renown for having great performance in low light, does this have similar great performance?
    That was really the only question I wanted to know more about. Great preview nonetheless.

  • @buzzj89
    @buzzj89 2 года назад +17

    Another great video Jared. The real time eye AF, evf, and ergonomics are tempting to upgrade from my a7iii, but I think I'll wait a bit for a sale as I still get fantastic results with the a7iii. Can't wait to watch your real world review

    • @MagicianDerrickRose
      @MagicianDerrickRose 2 года назад +5

      I think I’m going to do the same. But GAS is killing me.

    • @xeyutipe
      @xeyutipe 2 года назад

      @@MagicianDerrickRose what do you think about the "4k60 crop"?

    • @themusketeer9458
      @themusketeer9458 2 года назад

      @@xeyutipe i see no problem with this, shooting 60p is for fast moving stuff like sports where you would zoom in anyways, normally 30 is more than enough.

  • @SingerAuto1967
    @SingerAuto1967 2 года назад +3

    This is the only video I have seen on this new camera that didn’t make a big deal over the 4k60 being cropped.

  • @WesPerry
    @WesPerry 2 года назад +2

    Since firmware updates after launch on the a7iii, the eye-AF no longer requires a button press, but can be active at all times. It's still not 'real time tracking' quality, but much more convenient.

  • @kmb1659
    @kmb1659 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the great pReview Jared ;) - helps me a lot (like always). The Sony A7iv is a dream to me. It has all the stuff I am looking for - 10fps is more than enough for my style of taking photos (and to be honest I dont see any real diff between compressed and uncompressed raw) and 4k30 or 4k60 croped with a decent lens like the 16-35 or 14-24 f2.8 fits my needs just perfect too. Screen looks fine too because it is brighter than the one on the R6. Can wait to get mine - preordered it just yesterday 16:01h. Greeting from Germany!

  • @workingwiththelight3119
    @workingwiththelight3119 2 года назад +10

    These people on the phone in a hockey game! Unbelievable! I would like to see comparison with Canon R6 in low light.

  • @stefanweilhartner4415
    @stefanweilhartner4415 2 года назад +10

    i can't wait for the z9 review - especially the weak point of the other z cams, the autofocus. the z9 has a new processor inside that should deliver enough processor power for really fancy autofocus and object detection and tracking algorithms.
    probably surpassing the sony a1 in many areas.

    • @phelanwolf6747
      @phelanwolf6747 2 года назад +1

      The 3rd Z9 teaser showed human eye and vehicle detection and tracking. It was also able to identify the eye in a low contrast scenario, i.e. a soccer player with very dark skin. What was not shown was animal eye detection and tracking. We can only assume that the AF keeps up with the tracking. We also can only assume that the "slideshow mode" was removed and the EVF always shows the realworld as soon as possible.
      What was shown in the teaser does not indicate in any way that the AF is better or worse than Sony or Canon with their top tier cameras. Same goes for subject identification and tracking.
      It looks like the dust for the transition for the switch to mirrorless cameras is going to settle in 1-2 years and as expected the difference will not be that big between the different camera brands.
      Still waiting for security features. You know simple obvious stuff like fingerprint reader, iris scanner, locking of lenses and equipment to a set of bodies, file encryption for the storage, gps to track the camera.

    • @chrisvig123
      @chrisvig123 2 года назад

      The Z9 is very good…it’s not matching Sony and Canon yet but it’s very good…enough to hold Nikon users 😀

    • @stefanweilhartner4415
      @stefanweilhartner4415 2 года назад

      @@chrisvig123 in some aspects it surpasses sony and canon.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 2 года назад +2

    Pro-tip, for those of you using flash in dynamic lighting environments, map one of the custom buttons to "Shot Result Preview" On the A7iii its on page 16 on the original firmware, and page 17 on the current (4.01) but will likely be somewhere else with the A7iv
    Pesonally i wish that the "live view display" could just be set to "simulate flash" on or off, would also be cool to only get raised exposure estimates on objects closer to the camera instead of the whole scene

  • @ben_dixon
    @ben_dixon 2 года назад +1

    Haven't watched one of your videos for a couple of years now, so stopped by to say that was an absolutely fantastic review!

  • @adrianlunn8147
    @adrianlunn8147 2 года назад +3

    So , I’ve been saving for my first mirrorless camera , looked at the R6 but was thinking more Sony as of their Len’s choice , I’ve been waiting and looking forward to the release of the A7iv ,,, now I’m waiting for your review of the A7iv - R6 ,, at the moment I’m thinking my money’s going to canon
    Great review 👍

  • @MikeEvs
    @MikeEvs 2 года назад +4

    Watched it all, I'm a canon shooter that mainly shoots concerts. I currently use a 6D mkii although I do have an EOS R on loan at the moment. Thinking about getting EOS R5.

  • @AfricanSunProductions
    @AfricanSunProductions 2 года назад

    I've always wanted an A7, since the II. Someday I'll get one. It doesn't really fit my line of work at this stage, but when the budget allows I can add it on. Thanks for a great review.

  • @willbeephotography2338
    @willbeephotography2338 2 года назад

    Always appreciate your honest and thorough perspectives. Thank you.

  • @rockutron9000
    @rockutron9000 2 года назад +8

    Definitely a compelling entry level/prosumer model. Kinda wish it undercut the R6 by a couple hundred so it forced Canon to drop their price as well.

  • @birdhousemediatv
    @birdhousemediatv 2 года назад +4

    So.... after watching this.. ( My a7iii.. 3rd one just had a shutter failure...) borrow / wait.. for this new camera ... or go for the r6 / r5?!?

    • @woodyyu3945
      @woodyyu3945 2 года назад +11

      Go for Canon. There is a class-action on the a7iii shutter life, supposedly rated at 200k, *many* users are experiencing premature failure, what does that say about Sony and their cheap made in China bodies? Canon R6 shutter life rated at 300k, R5 at 500k, and Canon is known to be pretty conservative, and their bodies are made in Japan.

    • @livejames9374
      @livejames9374 2 года назад +4

      Z6ii

    • @thekingofhearts8687
      @thekingofhearts8687 2 года назад +3

      Z62

    • @jamesclogg8708
      @jamesclogg8708 2 года назад +1

      @@woodyyu3945 z6ii

    • @oasean
      @oasean 2 года назад

      Sony's quiet shutter styles, new in 2015 in the 42MP α7R II, aid resolution by quelling camera shake. But the 24MP α7 III's shutter, loud and clunky-similar to DSLR mirror shock-seemingly returns for α7 IV's 38% more pixels.

  • @Elazarko
    @Elazarko 2 года назад

    Yess!! Thank you for this video! Exactly what I am wondering about!

  • @alecpulianas6919
    @alecpulianas6919 2 года назад

    👍🏼 thanks for the info! I’m glad I got the A7iii on Feb of this year but always good to know what the new bodies offer

  • @BryanLopezProductions
    @BryanLopezProductions 2 года назад +13

    Maybe they’ll consider the a7cii the new “entry level” for full frames.

    • @JamesRoneyMusic
      @JamesRoneyMusic 2 года назад

      The A7 IV is indeed full frame. The video is wrong.

  • @DavidBeattty
    @DavidBeattty 2 года назад +3

    Bloody Jared I was starving for your content, love your work.

  • @albertw251
    @albertw251 Год назад +1

    Great review Jared!!
    I tend to use this camera as my go to camera for photo sessions with my clients. The Sony A7R IV/A sits in the studio most of the time. May end up selling it to get another A7 IV as a backup and still have some money to put in for upgrading my lenses.

  • @speed3ag
    @speed3ag 2 года назад

    This was great! Would really appreciate time stamps. Very informative and I always come here from brutal honest reviews.

  • @basdenchris
    @basdenchris 2 года назад +4

    Made it to the end. This is the camera that’s making me seriously consider selling my Canon 80D kit and starting over with Sony. I’ve been thinking R6 for a while now, but RF glass, however good, is punishingly expensive and I only have a few cheaper full frame lenses I could even adapt. So either way I’m starting over, and I think the A74 might be the one to make me pull the trigger.

    • @gilgalaad80
      @gilgalaad80 2 года назад +2

      nikon guy for 20 years here. i'm going to switch to my first mirrorless and nikon is sadly not an option.
      r6 is tempting but 20MP is (almost) a deal breaker, and sony has a better lens ecosystem too. i'm worried ONLY about how sony body feels in the hand, i hear a lot of criticism.
      but i think i will end up with sony, most probably.

  • @SMKOLLECTIONZ
    @SMKOLLECTIONZ 2 года назад +5

    You are certainly the best cameras reviewer on RUclips. Thanks for the good work always

  • @rubenflores6912
    @rubenflores6912 2 года назад

    Great review once again , glad I waited for this to come out. Now I hope it won’t take three months to ship or find in store.

  • @viktor928
    @viktor928 2 года назад

    Wedding photographer here… I am buying that camera I’ve been doing pictures and videos with my DSLR‘s and it’s turning out great… Happy customers happy clients happy couples that’s what I want. This camera is going to be a game changer for me not missing the focus on the video and pictures is what I’m looking for, I don’t think the compressed raw will be a problem for my photos. Also the 33 megapixel sensor it’s kind of nice! Thank you Jared… for the great preview video! I was hoping that everyone will start shipping soon but I guess we’ll wait for beginning of January.

  • @SaberKarmous
    @SaberKarmous 2 года назад +27

    Yeah yeah Jared. We get it, you don't like the Nikon Z6 ii. That's cool and all. But advicing people not to buy it is going a bit too far. The Nikon Z6 ii + 24-70 F4 kit lens could be bought for around 2100 euro on this side of the pond. And this new Sony is priced at 2800 euro. That's a BIG difference. If you would add the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70 mm F4 ZA OSS lens, that would be around 3500 euro combined with the body. That's a frikkin 1400 euro difference. No issue for professionals, but for the enthusiasts that's serious money. Are those features worth the difference to someone? Probably. But in the hands of professionals the Canon R6, Sony A7 iV and yes the Nikon Z6 ii are more than capable camera's. AND I think it would be VERY hard to spot the differences in the end results created buy those camera's.

  • @RandmVision
    @RandmVision 2 года назад +1

    Hey im curious what kind of viewfinder lag you notice on action shots , i notice on the a7iii its fairly laggy and i shoot alot of dance/mma/sports if i rely 100 percent on the view finder ill miss some shots .

  • @user-xe2sz8pl5c
    @user-xe2sz8pl5c Год назад

    Enjoyed the preview! Made it to the end. Looking at this for my first full frame camera.

  • @nathalexis
    @nathalexis 2 года назад +5

    As a very happy owner of an A7III mainly for stills, it looks that only the censor could justify an upgrade (new menus are not a huge point for me and I do not think the body was not convenient in my hands) without any real AF improvements. Wonder if it is worth it, for me…

    • @francissosing
      @francissosing 2 года назад +1

      Probably not honestly sir. The big improvements seem like the video capabilities.

    • @reykfoto
      @reykfoto 2 года назад

      I’m in the same boat. I don’t see a lot of difference in the photo side.
      I rented the R6 for a wedding to see if it was worth it over my 7iii but I was not impressed at all. The AF was very similar. Whoever I pre ordered the a7 IV because I need a second body, but I’m thinking to get another a7iii instead. They’re start going cheaper on eBay with a low shutter count.

  • @pony21090
    @pony21090 2 года назад +18

    I like the 33mp and the Bird Eye AF. But for Birds in flight an Hotrod Races I want more than 10fps.

  • @ColeRees
    @ColeRees 2 года назад

    LETS GOOO I’ve been waiting months for this

  • @ryanbattersby2259
    @ryanbattersby2259 2 года назад +1

    hey jared, llove all your content keep up the great work. I'm a budding photographer just stating out my business currently have a cannon 850D and looking to go mirrorless and i progress into doing more potrait and wedding photography. after watching this i think i really have my heart set on the A7III or A7IV. great video, keep up the great work.

  • @danr6255
    @danr6255 2 года назад +5

    Watched the whole video, very interested in this camera wanting to move from a Nikon D850 DSLR to my first Mirrorless camera as looking to do Portraits and weddings alongside the wildlife hobby shooting I do. Thank for the great video and look forward to the Full Real World Review too!

  • @ickledotco
    @ickledotco 2 года назад +3

    Great video Jared. Hugely informative. I’m tempted I have to say. Do a video on switching systems cheaply please! I stayed to the end btw.

    • @mavfan1
      @mavfan1 2 года назад

      depends on what you call cheap.

    • @RealThore
      @RealThore 2 года назад +1

      Buy used

    • @ickledotco
      @ickledotco 2 года назад

      @@RealThore Good advice, thank you. That’s what I usually do, part exchange etc.

  • @dhiradjdjairam3418
    @dhiradjdjairam3418 2 года назад

    Definitely got this far! Will be getting this one.. but no rush. I'll wait until I've seen a goog number of reviews in the next few months.

  • @Adamfahlundadafah
    @Adamfahlundadafah 2 года назад +2

    Just wondering, I noticed the Sony is significantly darker on the edges of the frame compared to the canon, does this have to do with the light gathering ability of the lenses? Also what lense were you using in the beginning when you were in your studio?

  • @mikebray48
    @mikebray48 2 года назад +5

    Only got 11 minutes into the preview and stopped it as I saw enough to turn me off from buying the A74. I am eventually selling my Z6 and Z7 and Nikon lenses and was debating on between Sony and Canon. Seeing this preview made my mind up and going to Canon for the R5 and R6

    • @norbertpap1433
      @norbertpap1433 2 года назад +1

      @Nithin Chandran the autofocus

    • @bhargavsharma9241
      @bhargavsharma9241 2 года назад +2

      @Nithin Chandran Do not buy the Nikon Z cameras if you care about Autofocus or 3rd party lens support. I bought a Z6II and ended up returning it because the Autofocus was horrible. Jared exaggerates a bit, but not too much. It really is bad. I bought a Sony A7III and an very happy with the system. Go with Sony or Canon, but stay away from Nikon. Watch Jared's Nikon 50mm 1.2 Z lens review and you'll see its performance.

    • @livejames9374
      @livejames9374 2 года назад

      @@bhargavsharma9241 what a joke. Z6ii af is just as good as A7iii. You have to learn the system. Sonys is more user friendly. Nikons you have to use your brain more. I shoot sports and events with Z cameras just fine. A7iii has a lot of close but not tack sharp focus.

    • @livejames9374
      @livejames9374 2 года назад

      @Nithin Chandran you will love the Z6ii. Don’t fall for the fanboy hype. My opinion is formed owning both R6 and Z6ii.

    • @bhargavsharma9241
      @bhargavsharma9241 2 года назад

      @@livejames9374 well I have shot birds, animals and motorsports from both the systems and in my experience the Z6II missed a lot. The A7III was always tack sharp in all of those situations. I spoke from my experience, I don't know about yours. But the fact is that more people have a problem with the Nikon Autofocus than any other systems. As for using the Brain to use a camera, I have been shooting Nikon DSLR cameras for 6 years now that is why I initially picked the Z6II. So speak of your experiences, but keep your opinions about others to yourself.

  • @TheBowlerwildcat
    @TheBowlerwildcat 2 года назад +12

    R6 user here and couldn't be happier with my choice feel like I have cheat codes with the AF👏🏻

    • @crispycaptures
      @crispycaptures 2 года назад

      Everyone makes such a big deal about the 20mp on the R6 but Im happy with it and it looks great, you can definetly get by and its probably the best 20mp you can ever get.

    • @TheBowlerwildcat
      @TheBowlerwildcat 2 года назад +1

      @@crispycaptures people who believe bigger is better and probably don't take good photos in the first place I reckon 😂

    • @crispycaptures
      @crispycaptures 2 года назад

      @@TheBowlerwildcat haha very true! 😂

  • @Wiedza.to.Wladza
    @Wiedza.to.Wladza 2 года назад +2

    As always the great video and the pREVIEW. For me A7 mk4 would be an option if they improved FPS. Pairing with 35-150 F2-2.8 it gives the perfect combo for my needs. For now I will stick to R6 and 24-70/70-200 F2.8

  • @scocksey
    @scocksey 2 года назад

    Right to the end, mate! Great review, and I am look forward to upgrading even more now..
    Cheers, mate

  • @ZeLoShady
    @ZeLoShady 2 года назад +4

    9:00 LOL my XT-4 can do 30 fps with electronic with only 6 less megapixels LOL.

  • @HotGates
    @HotGates 2 года назад +9

    Great video but it's either Canon or Nikon for me, How do you think the Z9 will fair? From the 3rd teaser seems like the AF sticks like glue.

    • @michelenardo1221
      @michelenardo1221 2 года назад

      Why just canon or nikon?

    • @HotGates
      @HotGates 2 года назад +4

      @@michelenardo1221 Because I just don't like Sony in my hands.

    • @michelenardo1221
      @michelenardo1221 2 года назад

      @@HotGates have you ever tried an 7RIV, 7SIII, A1 in your hands? Canon and Nikon have better grips, but Sony has better everything else. Canon still king in photos in my opinion, colors look amazing

    • @HotGates
      @HotGates 2 года назад +5

      @@michelenardo1221 Sony doesn't have better everything else nonsense. Canon AF is just as good or a little better than Sony.

    • @thekingofhearts8687
      @thekingofhearts8687 2 года назад +3

      Totally agree with you... canon and nikon have much better bodies in terms of weather sealing, ergonomics, menu systems, usability, quality of the raw files. The only thing that sony has a big advantage in is the variety of lens options, starting from budget third party lenses to the most expensive pro glasses. The Z9 teaser looks good but only time will tell. It will help nikon if they can implement better AF systems in their entry and mid level mirrorless bodies.

  • @okanaganpeterjames
    @okanaganpeterjames 2 года назад

    Awesome preview. Watched till the end. You make good videos

  • @jeremyhalestravel4545
    @jeremyhalestravel4545 2 года назад +1

    Hi Jared, thank you for all you do for the photo/video community! I was hoping you’d be able to help answering a question that I’ve struggled to even get an answer from Sony about. Totally get the Super 35 on the 4K60, however if you shoot 60 fps in 1080, does that allow you to use the full frame? I don’t see anyone discussing this? Any help would be great!

  • @gregoryfricker9971
    @gregoryfricker9971 2 года назад +24

    The R6 when shooting 20 FPS saves a 12 bit raw file. However it’s not “compressed” unless you select CRAW. Technically speaking all raw files like DNG and CR2/3 are compressed but just lossless compressed so just do math to make the files smaller. Basically all data these days is compressed when possible. Lossless compression is literally the exact same as uncompressed by definition. You just have to do math to get it and that’s all transparent to the end user who just opens the file in Lightroom.

    • @nubscrub
      @nubscrub 2 года назад

      So can you make the distinction between compressed raw, lossless compressed raw, and uncompressed raw?

    • @gregoryfricker9971
      @gregoryfricker9971 2 года назад

      @@nubscrub compressed and lossless compressed yes. Compressed and uncompressed, no and its weird when camera manufacturers include it but its mostly to silence folks who care about that

    • @zephyrprime
      @zephyrprime 2 года назад

      DNG can be lossy of losslessly compressed. When lossy compressed, it uses the jpeg algorithm.

  • @JageOscar
    @JageOscar 2 года назад +3

    after pranking us two times about the a7 IV I wasn't sure to click at this video

  • @jaimeavayu32
    @jaimeavayu32 2 года назад +1

    Hi Jared ! Great video, thanks for the info. For an A9 owner, looking for a 2nd camera with upgraded dynamic range, do you recommend a A7 iv, or a A7R iv? Or need to go for a A1 anyway? Thanks for your recommendation.

  • @vincentbillotto
    @vincentbillotto 2 года назад

    It on my list thank you for another great video.

  • @m1ch4Lko
    @m1ch4Lko 2 года назад +8

    This is a nice contender. But I think I will still go for the R6, especially if there are some black Friday deals.

  • @derbagger22
    @derbagger22 2 года назад +15

    33MP sounds nice. I'm hoping to invest in an R6 with an outside chance of an R5. It is annoying that there is such a MP difference between them. I have a bit of Canon glass and am so comfortable in the Canon menu system, I won't change.

    • @MrIkarphoto
      @MrIkarphoto 2 года назад +7

      I use R6 about a half year after 30 mp 5d4 and i dont see big difference.

    • @cjm8160
      @cjm8160 2 года назад +4

      @@MrIkarphoto True. There are only a limited number of scenarios in which the mega pixel count will really matter.

    • @MrIkarphoto
      @MrIkarphoto 2 года назад +4

      @@cjm8160 yes, and Adobe super resolution helps us in this scenarios)

    • @chewymacias7108
      @chewymacias7108 2 года назад +3

      If you can swing the R5, you'll love it. I've almost had mine for a year. With the new firmware updates, the only real issue is recording long format because of the eventual overheating, but it takes a while now to become an issue and the cooldown time is faster. If you need more, the Ninja V and V+ have you covered and your production value will be insane. Of course, it is the pricier option, so that is something to consider if it is a worthwhile investment for the work you do.

    • @TherconJair
      @TherconJair 2 года назад +1

      @@cjm8160 the only times I've noticed is with a bit of moirée in fabric in some situations that I haven't seen with the 30mp 5D IV / R. Could also have to do with the lighter AA filter, though.

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman0909 2 года назад

    Will be buying this camera soon -- great review Jared.

  • @JeanMarcLavoie
    @JeanMarcLavoie 2 года назад

    Thanks for this pReview! I’d like to know how it’s low light performance is vs. the A7III. I wish the shutter curtain did move faster as well. Fingers crossed it will on the production model.

  • @basserfelt
    @basserfelt 2 года назад +40

    Canon suddenly seems like the perfect hybrid choice. Better photo capabilities for action and well it seems a bit more well rounded. The R6 it is.

    • @JC-XL
      @JC-XL 2 года назад +5

      Are you alright? The Sony A7 IV has everything you get with the Canon but also quite a bit higher resolution!
      How can you call the R6 "a bit more well rounded" with such a resolution disadvantage, cropping, birds, landscapes?

    • @basserfelt
      @basserfelt 2 года назад +15

      @@JC-XL how can you be so lost? Crop in 4K 60 overheating is more or less the same in the highest quality just without the crop in the R6.
      Better FPS as I wrote better photo capabilities for action, prove me wrong be my guest. Better back screen on the R6 etc. not saying the 7 IV is bad but the R6 seems better rounded. And well you surely can take landscapes with the R6 😉
      GL catching birds with 6 fps 😂😂

    • @enricoperini6479
      @enricoperini6479 2 года назад +3

      @@basserfelt so true! I feel so lucky right now that I bought an R6 for sport photography and didn't went into Sony lol

    • @JC-XL
      @JC-XL 2 года назад +1

      @@basserfelt We all know which company had the over-heating camera launch disaster ....
      Sony cameras have been very good with heat management for years now.
      I'm also not saying that the R6 is a bad camera, just that it's main advantage is a slight edge for action, which is great, but quite niche.
      At the same time A7 IV has an edge in resolution, which has much wider application, hence the A7 IV is a more rounded camera.

    • @youknowwho9247
      @youknowwho9247 2 года назад +4

      @@basserfelt I'd rather have 33mp and 10 fps than 20mp and 12 fps for birds. Compressed raw is a non issue.

  • @IustinPop
    @IustinPop 2 года назад +13

    This is a pretty good review, sorry, preview. My summary: the R6 seems a better camera, at least for stills. And modulo AF - which is a big thing - my Z6 II is a better stills camera too, at least for me (but that AF…). For video, this seems better featured - more formats, the hotshoe interface, etc. But I’m surprised at the limitations of the Sony - 6 FPS in lossless compressed, not enough Fn buttons, etc. At least it finally has a simple stills/movie toggle.

    • @mikni4069
      @mikni4069 2 года назад

      Why do you think is better, I just don’t see it or is it better because the other one is a Sony.. let me guess that must be it right. The sony has about 61% more resolution, the Canon 20mp is passable but frankly no more. It’s main talking point is it’s AF and speed but as it’s not stacked those 20fps electronic simply isn’t worth very much simply because of the distortion you get in many situations where you would actually want to use it. So it’s really 10 vs 12 or insignificant really one you get 14 bit compressed the other 12bit. The AF performance is so close and the difference in performance is really scenario dependent where one leapfrog the other from scenario to scenario they are really that close.
      The Z6ii has lower resolution and worse AF so I don’t really see it as a better choice.
      And all no exception has serious rolling shutter issues, so it doesn’t really matter if pick the Sony, Nikon and Canon as they are all pretty bad.

    • @Nostaljikone
      @Nostaljikone 2 года назад

      @@mikni4069 The burst is still worse than the A7iii. Part of having a new camera release is to improve the areas that matter most and that rear screen, evf and burst rate just can't compete with what the minimum will be in 2022. Just not enough.

    • @Ryan-jx4vh
      @Ryan-jx4vh 2 года назад

      R6 should have been an oven for how often it overheats 🤣🤣

  • @stevenwaldstein2249
    @stevenwaldstein2249 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video. I did get all the way to the end. Already considering buying one but need to determine if it should or should not replace one of my other sonys.

  • @Markpatrickrich
    @Markpatrickrich 2 года назад

    Thank You for all your help and your sense of humor I have been a Nikon user since I was a kid you have help me to switch to Sony I’m a native Californian but my parents are from Philadelphia my dad was from south Philly
    I have been not as serious about my photography lately I’m a Prop Master In motion picture industry. You have inspired me thank you for your help 🙏🏼❤️🤙🏼✌🏼

  • @jaysvlog9803
    @jaysvlog9803 2 года назад +7

    Dam im a Sony shooter but those canon colors are bold

    • @kushaalprasad2178
      @kushaalprasad2178 2 года назад

      I switched from 5dmiii to fujifilm xt2's and miss my old girl at times lol. Also have the a7iii but only got 35 1.4 sigma art. Planning to get a good 16 or 24mm and then 35-150 mm f2-2.8

    • @celestial_78
      @celestial_78 2 года назад

      @@kushaalprasad2178 Who asked?

  • @adamsmith4778
    @adamsmith4778 2 года назад +11

    4k60 in super 35 is just sad at this point very disappointed ngl

    • @S.B__
      @S.B__ 2 года назад +1

      This is the only reason for me not getting one. Come the F on Sony, you didn't really give us shit !!

    • @b47d16
      @b47d16 2 года назад +2

      @@S.B__ For real! Such a let down, i just sold my a7iii and I was going to get the A7IV but now it looks like ill get my hands on a Canon R6.

    • @S.B__
      @S.B__ 2 года назад +1

      @@b47d16 I don't know why they keep doing BS like this like JUST GIVE US NON CROPPED 4K 60p at the LEAST !! ALl this wait for such a baby upgrade come on now. SMFH

  • @louisburley1597
    @louisburley1597 2 года назад +1

    I always get to the end! I'd be curious to have sample RAW files though. After seeing a few reviews I'm not totally convinced to upgrade from the A7iii. I do wish I had more resolution (and thought this more than once) but that's mainly it.

    • @kenchen704
      @kenchen704 2 года назад

      More resolution then why not A7R4

  • @bala1000mina
    @bala1000mina Год назад

    Awesome as always! Thank you so much Jared! Very useful! God bless and good luck!

  • @TheKidsDaaaaad
    @TheKidsDaaaaad 2 года назад +42

    This review made me happy to have bought an R6 :)

    • @crispycaptures
      @crispycaptures 2 года назад +5

      Same! When i see a new camera video i get nervous that i made the wrong decision in buying an R6 lol but im more than happy with it and i think its a great camera.

    • @NikosRentas
      @NikosRentas 2 года назад

      I'm debating an r6 or switching to Sony. What are the main reasons that you are happy with the r6?

    • @takemewell
      @takemewell 2 года назад

      Yes. Can you explain why are you so happy to have bought an R6 ?

    • @almaq2078
      @almaq2078 2 года назад +1

      @@takemewell your question brought silence 😀 I am interested in the answers too. I’m currently on the fence between the R6 and a7 iv

    • @TheKidsDaaaaad
      @TheKidsDaaaaad 2 года назад +1

      @@NikosRentas Well in my case I have all EF/RF glass cause I also shoot BMP6k. But The R6 not cropping to a Super35 for 4k 60 is killer for me

  • @DirkDien
    @DirkDien 2 года назад +32

    6 FPS? Meh, R6 all the way! 📷 But I'm biased as I love my R6 anyway, the RF system is great!

    • @JC-XL
      @JC-XL 2 года назад +2

      6 fps with UNCOMPRESSED RAW, which you most likely don't get at all with Canon. Switch to compressed and you're getting 10 fps.

    • @MikedieONE
      @MikedieONE 2 года назад +8

      @@JC-XL huh? the canon shoots 12fps uncompressed 16bit

    • @stalfros25
      @stalfros25 2 года назад

      @@JC-XL you definitely get uncompressed raw with canon lmao

    • @b47d16
      @b47d16 2 года назад +2

      sold my a7iii and was going to get the a7iv but looks like im jumping ship to canon R6. No regrets plus their glass is amazing

    • @JC-XL
      @JC-XL 2 года назад +1

      @@stalfros25 Are you sure Canon has genuinely UNCOMPRESSED raw, as I read somewhere that their raws are smaller than a bitmapped tiff, which means only one thing -> there is compression there!!
      Not that I need uncompressed raws, I was just saying that the A7 IV does 6fps with the HUGE uncompressed files, but does 10 fps with their compressed raw files!

  • @eggsrsweet
    @eggsrsweet 2 года назад

    Thumbs up! I've been running an a7S III for my wedding videos the last year and its been fantastic. And I was thinking about investing in another one but I think the a7 IV may be plenty good enough for a B camera; $1k less than the a7s too lol. Plus it'll be nice having more megapixels for the handful of pictures I take here and there.

  • @theusbadenhorst1848
    @theusbadenhorst1848 2 года назад

    Great P review. Thanks. I like 6fps uncompressed. I rarely find the need for more large files than that. I lime the 33mp option since I am a pixel peeper. I think they made this camera specifically for my needs.

  • @HarryGustafsson
    @HarryGustafsson 2 года назад +25

    My wife's take on the canon vs sony colors. "Canon is HBO and Sony is Netflix..." I think both look phenomenal...

    • @antant06
      @antant06 2 года назад +3

      That doesn't make any sense??

    • @Archonsx
      @Archonsx 2 года назад +2

      canon looks like cheap youtube videos to me, very cartoonishly

    • @Sebas-sg1kj
      @Sebas-sg1kj 2 года назад +1

      @@Archonsx I think both sucks. Nikon colors all the way

    • @MarcYanOfficial
      @MarcYanOfficial 2 года назад

      @@Sebas-sg1kj both make there own sensors don't they? Don't Nikon use Sony sensors?

    • @StandaMach
      @StandaMach 2 года назад

      @@MarcYanOfficial yep, made in factory with Nikon tech (nikon was a contractor at the time). And sensor is made of lots of different layers, it's not like "here is the whole thing, just pop it in"

  • @pontianekakoro1737
    @pontianekakoro1737 2 года назад +3

    Watched it a usual even though I can't afford it, at least I will brag to and impress my photography enthusiasts when we meet for our evening drink today😁

  • @rnetphoto
    @rnetphoto 2 года назад

    Will you be working on a menu breakdown for this camera? I always like following along to see your explanation of settings and what you use

  • @justnaturesmusic2133
    @justnaturesmusic2133 2 года назад

    Yes Yes Yes, great video explaining all I need to know. Amazing little camera.

  • @andrewbeaumont663
    @andrewbeaumont663 2 года назад +3

    Curious to see the reaction to the Z9. Looking at the teasers Nikon just stepped over Canon & Sony 😳
    Still...it'll probably be the wrong color or something...

  • @alanm.4298
    @alanm.4298 2 года назад +15

    What I really like about this Sony is that it challenges Canon to do some updating, while still keeping their prices in line. The Canon R6 you compared against (largely due to price similarity), isn't that old a model. But the original EOS R with 30MP is about due to get an update. The most affordable Canon R-series, the 26MP EOS RP, is the same age and also due to be refreshed. Whether Canon makes "Mark II" versions of them or gives them a number designation (R4? R8?), among other things they need updated AF systems, IBIS, dual card slots, option to use the BG-R10 grip and possibly even BSI sensors to truly make them competitive again. We'll see if Canon rises to the occasion. Competition is good for consumers!

    • @Wildlife__shorts
      @Wildlife__shorts 2 года назад +4

      I don’t think canon will refresh EOS R or RP . Those were interim cameras for Canon to come into full frame Mirrorless.

  • @GenesisReyesPhotography
    @GenesisReyesPhotography 2 года назад

    Great review as always Jared, its a great middle ground to the A1

  • @razafiarisonmichael4421
    @razafiarisonmichael4421 2 года назад +1

    Very nice preview. I would like to see how does it perform in image quality and hdr in real life compared to the a7III on low light capability and the a7rIII in landscapes which are less expensive cameras

  • @Elazarko
    @Elazarko 2 года назад +7

    Hey Jared, please speak more about and compare the USABILITY of the Sony a7 IV vs Canon R6! How do the cameras physically feel when in use?..

  • @sambennett5203
    @sambennett5203 2 года назад +3

    The slow readout kills it for me. Looks like a great camera otherwise!

    • @godsinbox
      @godsinbox 2 года назад

      a7III sucked for lag, this new one seems suspicious for readout speed again

  • @Gremlack13
    @Gremlack13 2 года назад +1

    Been waiting for this announcement.
    Currently shoot an rp and looking to upgrade. Previous option was r6 and a7iii, but wanted to wait to see what the a7iv would offer.
    Now to wait to see more good pREVIEWS to help make the best upgrade path choice.
    Love the vids, frohame.

    • @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342
      @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342 2 года назад +5

      I would go with R6

    • @tailsnelf
      @tailsnelf 2 года назад +1

      Even Z6II looks better than this. This was a letdown after A1. Eye Af alone is not enough to justify this camera, it is a downgrade over A73 even when it comes to fps.

  • @Fotograflix
    @Fotograflix 2 года назад

    Would really appreciate if you would do one of your setup videos-really learn a lot from not only those but all your videos! Digging my a7iv + 70-200 GMII so far!

  • @kore996
    @kore996 2 года назад +3

    So with the frame rate and MP wouldn’t this be a closer comparison to the Canon R? Auto focus on the Sony is probably a bit better since it’s quite a bit newer and maybe ISO quality?

    • @kushaalprasad2178
      @kushaalprasad2178 2 года назад +1

      I think now they want to get something more like hybrid of a7siii and A7riv.. 33mp and video spec.. even the a7iii was the in between with resolution and video spec at 24mp. I doubt the eos r would be anywhere close in video comparison since this is fairly newer so r6 is compared.

  • @mavericksyao708
    @mavericksyao708 2 года назад +4

    Sony ran out of stock of low res tilting screen so they released a7riiia and a7riva. But obviously they still have lots of low res fliping screen.

  • @mauroceresa1219
    @mauroceresa1219 2 года назад

    Great and honest pReview as usual.

  • @mmsy3365
    @mmsy3365 2 года назад

    Hi. Can you fill buffer with photos and in the
    same Time switch to video and record a
    movie, without waiting for the clearing a
    buffer?

  • @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342
    @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342 2 года назад +33

    Sounds like Sony did a cripple hammer even if this camera came out before R6 I would still pick R6. Just some stuff they did to this camera I would say no to it. Should be priced at R

    • @DNdavidsonsnation
      @DNdavidsonsnation 2 года назад +3

      that's my point exactly... i still have the eos r and basically does almost everything the sony a7iv does and it's the first full frame mirrorless camera from canon.. it's quite embarrassing tbh the only sony's camera that makes me want to switch are a7siii and fx3. Like i would go for it over c70, r5 or c200mkii possibly...

    • @harryvuemedia5106
      @harryvuemedia5106 2 года назад +3

      @@DNdavidsonsnation like what features the eos r still does the same thing sony a74 does?

    • @DNdavidsonsnation
      @DNdavidsonsnation 2 года назад +9

      @@harryvuemedia5106 well absolutely everything minus 2 card slot, dynamic range/low light and 1080p at 120fps, maybe ibis but from many video the stabilization look better on canon even with lens only... it does 5 fps, 30mpx, better evf, better screen, better weather sealed, 4k 4.2.2 (if really needed with ninja v), good sticky auto-focus, less expensive, better lens (rf), less rolling shutter, colour science, better ergonomic imo, the auto-focus is smoother feel more like a focus pulled in video... the only sony that come close to make me switch system are a7siii and fx3 but they are not in the same price range at all but i'd probably go with sony at that price range (over c70, r5, possibly future c200markii)... to be fair, buying from scratch tomorrow i think the a7iv would be a better choice than the eos r (not r6) but in my situation it's not appealing at all. And from someone who already owned an a7iii, not sure it worth it that much either tbh

    • @MuhammadKharismawan
      @MuhammadKharismawan 2 года назад +2

      @@DNdavidsonsnation heh. you make the eos R sound so good, but nobody actually uses them for long, they all went for the R6 fast

    • @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342
      @coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342 2 года назад +1

      @@MuhammadKharismawan actually I know A lot people actually still use the R even though I went to the R6 there’s still a lot of people that won’t upgrade till there’s R8 Version two of the R.

  • @jackbcasey
    @jackbcasey 2 года назад +9

    it is so funny to me in photo news fix he's like "sony alpha rumors says..." but has the camera already and knows whats right and wrong lol

  • @dpepalis9456
    @dpepalis9456 2 года назад

    I did buy the a7iv. Have a Nikon 7 with the Nov 2021 firmware update but the focus tracking on the Sony is far superior. I was dreading learning a whole new menu system but I find the Sony's to be very intuitive. Also, with a "Monster" lens adapter my newer Nikon f lenses work with the Sony. I can shoot a sparrow through a window and still get good eye focus at 20' away. Never too old to try something new. I'm finding that the three Sigma lenses that I bought for Sony E mount work flawlessly. Thanks Jared.

  • @YosepSugiarto
    @YosepSugiarto 2 года назад

    Great "Pre-View" Jared! enjoyin it! can't wait to hand on myself for the Sony A7IV :D