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Set Signal Red when Train Passes using Märklin M84 60841/60842 (Beginner Episode 8e)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
  • This video shows how to set a signal connected to the m84 to red when the train passes. This works with any signal that can be connected to the m84 and works with both the black (Märklin 60842) and the white (Märklin 60841) editions of the m84. This video shows how to use the black edition, but the white edition of the m84 can be installed and used in exactly the same way. The Mobile Station 2 (MS2) cannot be programmed so this is a great trick to make automatic changes on your layout using electrical automation.
    This video has a short summary of how to install and use the m84, please see the information/background videos below for more detailed how to. You can use any dumb signal such as the Märklin START UP signals or the Viessmann signals - videos on how to connect these can be found in the information/background videos as well.
    ALWAYS do the installation with POWER OFF, read the manual and safety instructions. Remember to connect the wires correctly to each section.
    More Information / background videos
    - M84 installation
    • Adding Accessories to Mobile Station 2 (MS2 Episode 6): • Adding Accessories to ...
    • Installing Märklin 60841/60842 m84 with 8 Independent Light Groups (Beginner Episode 8a): • Installing Märklin 608...
    - Märklin START UP signals
    • Install Märklin START UP Light Signals 74391/74380/74371 using M84 60842/60841 (Beginner Episode 5g): • Install Märklin START ...
    • Stop Section with Märklin START UP Light Signals 74391/74380/74371 using M84 60842/60841 (Beg Ep 5h): • Stop Section with Märk...
    - Viessman signals
    • Using Märklin 60841/60842 m84 with Viessmann 4011 Home Block/4010 Distant Signal (Beginner Ep 8b): • Using Märklin 60841/60...
    • Programming the Märklin 60841/42 m84 for 3/4-way Signals with 2 Addresses (Beginner Episode 8c): • Programming the Märkli...
    • Using Märklin 60841/60842 m84 with Viessmann 4012 Entry/4013 Exit Signals (Beginner Episode 8d): • Using Märklin 60841/60...
    Tips & How to included:
    • How to automatically turn signal red with MS2?
    • How does the m84 inputs work?
    • Which m84 input activates which output?
    • Tip: Brown / "O" activates the m84 input
    • Tip: The slider triggers the circuit track
    • Tip: The circuit track is directional
    • Tip: The tab on the circuit track points to where the train comes from
    • Tip: Place the circuit track after the signal to get the right effect
    • Tip: Place finger firmly on the center of the circuit track switch when mounting the wire
    Enjoy and have fun with model trains :-)
    Interesting links (English):
    - Märklin: www.maerklin.d...
    - m84 black edition with mfx (Märklin 60842): www.maerklin.d...
    - m84 white edition (Märklin 60841): www.maerklin.d...
    - Straight short circuit track (Märklin 24994): www.maerklin.d...
    - R1 curved short circuit track (Märklin 24194): www.maerklin.d...
    - R2 curved Straight short circuit track (Märklin 24294): www.maerklin.d...
    - Märklin Product database: www.maerklin.d...
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    02:10 m84 connection refresher
    04:15 m84 input trigger output
    06:58 Activating the m84 input
    08:01 How does Circuit Track work?
    11:30 Overview of the set up
    11:58 Connecting the circuit track
    13:29 Testing the circuit track
    14:52 Signal placement
    15:41 Cab control car considerations
    16:19 Demo
    16:41 Summary and Tips'n'Tricks

Комментарии • 19

  • @matteorathelpusterla6050
    @matteorathelpusterla6050 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve been waiting for a tutorial like this. Thank you!

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Matteo, Glad it was helpful! Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @E_73
    @E_73 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Bo!
    Nice Tutorial. I like these kind of Videos. Thank you for sharing!
    Cheers Emma 😊

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад

      Hi Emma, Thank you! I find it fun to make electrical automation and will be posting a video on automating a shadow station in the future. Question: Do you know if you can use contact track as m84 input? It is explicitly not mentioned in the manual and I think it can create issues as contact track will be triggered y the entire train and could be problematic with multiple triggers due to e.g. dirty wheels. Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @perreyalsdam7994
    @perreyalsdam7994 10 месяцев назад

    Another great turorial. Easy explained and greatly illustrated with a video.

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад

      Hi Per, Glad you enjoyed it! Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @heinwelters
    @heinwelters 10 месяцев назад +1

    thnks for the info you do a great job keep it up

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад

      Hi Hein, Thanks and thanks for watching! Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @kaasmeester5903
    @kaasmeester5903 6 месяцев назад

    I loved my Märklin set as a kid, but never had the cash to add signals. I might get back into the hobby at some point, and your series of videos have been rather informative. Liked & subscribed.
    I am wondering: is there a way to do the same thing with the Märklin signals that have a built-in decoder?

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  6 месяцев назад

      Hi,
      Glad you like the videos and welcome to the channel. I hope you find some useful videos.
      In order to turn the signal to red when the trains passes using the built-in decoder I suggest you use the CS3 and create an event triggered by a contact track after the signal. You can see in the automation series how to create contact tracks and events: ruclips.net/p/PLYAhs-Pox3sHzQJsNU-FmOEj1ylO-NPpV
      You can also use the CS3 timer as seen here: ruclips.net/video/0QCtklLO7II/видео.html
      Hope this helps! Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @ArmandoGarcia-xy8bk
    @ArmandoGarcia-xy8bk 10 месяцев назад

    Very informative video! Can one use a 24995 contact track instead of a circuit track?

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Armando,
      I have been wondering the same. However, the manual explicitly mentions circuit track and reed contacts - not contact track. I think the difference is that circuit track and reed contacts creates a short connection for a certain point of the train. The contact track creates a longer and more permanent connection along the entire train - and may create a "dirty" contact if the wheels of the train are dirty. I am unsure if the input of the m84 is ok with this.
      If the m84 is ok with the contact track, then the issue is that the entire train may trigger the m84 input - potentially even multiple times. This could make things very unreliable implying it is difficult to make it work. Perhaps that is why Märklin have not included this option in the manual? I am thinking about contacting Märklin on this to see if the m84 input is ok with contact track - then experiment with making it reliable.
      Hope this help! Enjoy ;-) Bo

  • @marcocarretto8143
    @marcocarretto8143 10 месяцев назад +2

    hi Bo but can I do the same job using a contact rail created with a 24188 or 24172?

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Marco,
      I have been wondering the same. However, the manual explicitly mentions circuit track and reed contacts - not contact track. I think the difference is that circuit track and reed contacts creates a short connection for a certain point of the train. The contact track creates a longer and more permanent connection along the entire train - and may create a "dirty" contact if the wheels of the train are dirty. I am unsure if the input of the m84 is ok with this.
      If the m84 is ok with the contact track, then the issue is that the entire train may trigger the m84 input - potentially even multiple times. This could make things very unreliable implying it is difficult to make it work. Perhaps that is why Märklin have not included this option in the manual? I am thinking about contacting Märklin on this to see if the m84 input is ok with contact track - then experiment with making it reliable.
      Hope this help! Enjoy ;-) Bo

    • @marcocarretto8143
      @marcocarretto8143 10 месяцев назад

      @@ModelTrainFun hi thanks for the reply, in fact the signal given by a contact track cannot be adequate as it is a continuous signal and could also create problems for the M84. I congratulate you because your videos are well made and the explanations you give are very detailed and easy to understand. I will continue to follow you with great interest because I am making my first model railway with Marklin material and your advice is precious. Thank you so much.

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@marcocarretto8143Best of luck with your layout - have fun with trains! ;-) Bo

  • @locowerke
    @locowerke 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks Bo, great video! I use a MS2, can you also set things up so that when the loco' passes the switch and sets the signal back to red, it will also turn off the power to an isolated track? It would be handy to have the ability to not only have a red signal, but also a dead track so trains will stop there automatically.

    • @ModelTrainFun
      @ModelTrainFun  8 месяцев назад

      Hi,
      Yes - you can also connect to a stop track at the same time.
      If you have the START UP signal used in this video, then check out this video: ruclips.net/video/1sSSNow4cQc/видео.html
      If you have another signal (e.g. the Viessmann), then check out this video: ruclips.net/video/6Hgvx4LdcUo/видео.html
      Enjoy ;-) Bo

    • @locowerke
      @locowerke 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, Bo, I appreciate your help. Keep producing these great and very helpful, and also enjoyable, videos for all the fans of all things Marklin!