Talking outta your ass? Try getting educated on this process. There are some good videos on the process, if you can sit thru the entire 8 minutes and understand the chemistry. Here is it. ruclips.net/video/NPM40ey1OHQ/видео.html
@@brucelston sorry that was a bit harsh. It’s really meant for anyone who thinks they know better than the engineers and scientists who developed this and then did a delete of the def system. Providing more pollution that needed.
as good as it looks on paper, it doesn't matter what you do to control the emissions produced by the motor, those filters still choke up the engine and will never allow it to run at its best especially with a turbo equipped motor, i've seen many turbos fail on diesels simply because the filters and converters choke them out tremendously
As far as I understand, the EGR as what really contributes to that through depositing so much gunk into the oil. The engine can handle dirty oil for quite some time but turbos are far more sensitive to that.
Just adds to the thoery, that “if “ you want to keep your engine/carlong term, changed your oil & filter at regular intervals. Not at manufacturers (ie 5-10k not 20-30klms!!!!
Excellent presentation 👍 I got VW T5.1 BUS 🚐 4Motion 2.0tdi 140.HP. And after I watch this video, I will immediately order my VW Bus to my mechanic to EGR and DPF Delete. I have no problem with that system but, but that garbage which will destroy my engine. Diesel power 💪. Greetings from Croatia 🇭🇷
I bought my 2015 dmax brand new. I deleted it about 3000 miles in. Best thing I could have ever done. It took one limp mode on the interstate to make up my mind.
I did the deletes on my diesel pickup, and I went from getting 13 mpg to 22mpg. Getting better fuel economy = less pollution. The EPA crap is a contradiction. Burning more fuel to go the same amount of distance is not better for the environment nor for my pocket book. The only thing that the EPA crap does is force diesel owners to buy more fuel and makes the oil companies richer.
But if you deleted the DEF then you are now producing more NOX , you are burning nitrogen. I do not know how big a problem that is for the atmosphere, acid rain or what. I am inclined to distrust the EPA assessment of NOX but Im going to keep my DEF system because it is working and it is cheap.
if you do the delete on your pov i do not know the consequence of fines etc. as a professional mechanic i am NOT allowed to delete your egr system. the fines are in the thousands per day that they (epa) says it ran. ask Volkswagen how that worked out. they would LOVE to make an example of you and your pocket book. they mandate, we comply. if you don't like it, vote in someone who will make a change! like, i don't know maybe> MAGA!
Ive spent tens of thousands on repairing this system and tens of thousands of lost income due to down time this year. Man I hope this last one is it for a while.
I've got an older 2000 diesel truck. Getting about 23mpg. I blanked the EGR valve and ran a straight thru exhaust pipe. Getting about 30mpg now. And its the best its ever run.
If the manufacturers would finally listen to people and come out with an EGR that shuts off when regen mode engages the world would be a happier place.
New to the Diesel world (2017 F350 6.7L) I have watched 100+ videos, read forums, and talked with a few longtime owners. This was the best video to teach me about the engine process and understand the EPA junk. I literally emailed Banks Power Corporate with a, "If I have to be EPA compliant, how do I correct the EGR, DPF, and SCR problems with aftermarket solutions?" They got back to me by suggesting their tuning module, pedal controller, intake, and exhaust.... So the boastful "EPA Compliant" company doesn't have a solution for any of these systems. My Vote - Delete everything. I would think the Aftermarket community would have "Compliant" fixes with upgraded systems. Hell, there's probably Government grant money for companies to do so. But there isn't.
I’m only a first year student in my school’s diesel program but wouldn’t it be a lot more than $1500 to delete all that stuff? I imagine it would be even more than $8000 if you could even find a shop that would do it
@@jakefournie5930 You must be lucky then. Where i live there are inspections every year and failing inspections means the car is unroad worthy. Its crazy in our country.
Hi , I deleted my Peugeot 309 1900 diesel . I then put a hydrogen electrolizer on my car . After 3 yrs of running this vehicle I sold it to a friend, he stripped the engine, it was spotless , no sludge or cardon build up . The oil was tested and was found to be in good condition, after 3 yrs with no oil change 42000 miles . Fuel mileage went from 53 mpg to 70 . I know this works and I hope you can do research to put this on utube as well
Diesels are very common in UK, esp the Chelsea Tractors (Urban SUVs) going on shopping trips and taking kids to school on short journeys.. People simply do not understsnd, that they need to go on long journeys.. Personally, i have had nothing but problems with my city Diesel. I personally had to learn how to use it and clean the EGR valve and DPF.. but have learnt so much about general servicing.. thank you, your video is very clear snd informative
You have a gift of teaching as well, If you buy a diesel car make sure you know everything about it. Have to do the right thing. Thanks for your knowledge and thanks for sharing.
Well the human race likes to destroy things if it's not one another, it would be good old mechanical engineering that was sooo simple and easy in them days now we like to build things that brake just by flicking it
The EPA don't care as long as the animals in the north pole have a place to live without global warming the EPA would rather have us back to horse and buggy days
My 2014 Kenworth at around 50000 miles the SCR had to changed I think it was around $5000.00 or $6000.00 to do . BUt it was covered by warranty . Now the EGR cooler had to be replaced and that was just under $6000.00 . This time I was 3 months out of warranty . All this is just a crime to the truck owner !
The EPA and the Federal Government KNEW long before these regulations came into effect the damage EGR and DEF would do to diesel engines. Yet they passed them anyway. This was Clinton Era EPA that came up with the regulations. This is why CAT no longer makes on road use diesel engines. CAT, Cummins, and Detroit Diesel testified before Congress on the damage these new EPA regs were going to do to engines and the negative impact on the trucking industry. No one cared. My last truck, a 09 Western Star, had probably the BEST emissions setup. NO EGR. It had a 60 Series Detroit with a Re-Gen system. The exhaust system had a DPF, and the entire exhaust system had fuel lines and spark plugs at intervals along it. There were sensors for soot every so far. If ANY sensor showed soot, from that sensor back got fuel shot to it and ignited by the spark plug. NEVER in 450,000 miles I drove that truck did I have ANY soot issues or problems. The engine was California Certified Clean Diesel.
That sounds like a much better system @mean45acp, why don't they make all cars and trucks with that system? I.e. what's the downside for them? (Apart from us not having to have them serviced as regularly, replace them as often or buy fuel as frequently, obviously!).
I have a 2000 detroit diesel series 60 with 1000000 miles plus and that thing runs cleaner than any new engine which would spend most of its 400000 miles in the shop.
I solved all the issues with my exhaust scrubbing systems. I took that crap off. My fuel mileage went way up and now my exhaust looks really cool when I romp on the throttle.
Its actually from the clean air and water act of 1972, put into place by President Nixon as he was trying to out do a rival politician to garner public support. At the time, the environment was a large political platform. Nixon also created the EPA, but soon found it to be a hindrance to him and tried to cut its funding and render it useless, however he had allowed safeguards to be put into place to prevent that from happening, as an environmental legislative entrepreneur wrote the bill, and not Nixon's staff (because they were to lazy to write the bill themselves). Nixon, trying to show off actually made the bill more strict than the "Environmentalists" did, to try and outdo Senator Edward Muskie, who at the time, was considered the largest supporter of environmental policy; and was polling better than Nixon. So it wasn't to please those "environment wankers", it was shady politicians trying to garner public support for re-election. As the majority of the United States was suffocating from unregulated surfer dioxide and nitrous oxide emissions from manufacturers who were over polluting and causing major health issues in large cities in the late 60's and early 70. So really if you think about it the bill came into effect because of those conservative industrial greedy wankers. You should also look up the "Tragedy of the commons", might learn something. Education is something people on RUclips should invest in!
Oh and you can also blame those "Canadian wankers", as they put tremendous pressure on the U.S. to tighten regulations on pollutants (in the early 1980's, I believe it was 1983 when they increased the legislation on the clean air and water act (amending it)) because the air pollutants were all going north and causing large amounts of acid rain, which was impacting soil pH levels and starting to have large degradation on forest growth, and as a domino effect was impacting the animal and other plant ecology.
almost started wheat field on fire cause DPF was so hot. Deleted EGR DPF. Oil at change was noticeably cleaner and got a 15 % increase in fuel economy.
The dpf collects soot and ash. The truck series today has been creating over heat which then cracks the egr cooler that sends coolant to the dpf and burns. Your def fluid is injected into the scr. You have an injector for the def and dpf for fuel. We do oil sampling to check our oil from being contaminated. Nox sensors you have 1 on the intake and the 2nd one on the exit. The def fluid is injected in front of the scr. Depending on the truck i have seen Macks heat at the dpf around 1200 degrees. There is also a SCR crystalline regen that creates a heat range near 1600 degrees. Every def tank i have seen has a tank heater. This is a heater that uses engine coolant to heat the tank. If you want to keep your truck running take it to an Aftertreatment specialist. The aftertreatment uses a differential pressure sensor this is located on or near the dpf it has 2 hoses that recieves pressure from both sides of dpf. The computer uses this sensor to activate the regen when the numbers climb. When you have your laptop on your truck you can see the soot levels and ash.
This was explained very well, and being a newbie to diesel trucks (and will never go back) helped me to the conclusion that I do want a egr delete and downpipe. Thanks for your info.
i have a quetion ...,EGR added in the engine on the year 2002 to low down NOx upstream ..,then untill 2010 they added the SCR and DEF to control NOx downsteam .THE QUESTION IS ; why at this time they don't throw EGR away the engine by added the air cooler come the engine and contol the temperature by the computer to restrict the high NOx in the upstream .Thank.
Iam glad my 84 f250 6.9 idi dont have all that crap on it may be underpowered by today's diesel standards but is one bulletproof engine and enough power for what I use it for
They will write books in the future about how stupid this system was for engines and how bad of a design it was. They set the Diesel engine back 10 years with this disaster.
Except that now a 2.8 Duramax produces almost the same power as the original 7.3 ford diesel did. But whatever.... can't argue facts and logic with an idiot
I’ve never actually sat down and done my homework on the light diesel emissions equipment. This was a pretty good break down. Clear and concise, I dig it.
I've removed everything from turbo outlet to where it goes back to nature. 3 inch pipe with a 3 inch straight through muffler. no problems, no issues, no blockages, no power loss. Best thing I ever did to the truck.👍.........and of course blocked the EGR.
Great video and thanks for the education. Just kinda skeptical about the infomercial at the end. And to those who believe the government is to blame and they think they know better? Go ahead and try to invent a better way that pollutes less and costs less. No a deletion of the whole system is not an option. That creates more pollution. But many mouth breathers who don’t care about climate change and the air quality think a delete is ok. It’s the best we have so far. Let’s hope they get better systems in the future. Again thanks for the education.
I burn a lot of diesel in my tree service and I do sometimes think about the amount of pollution that I'm putting out. But my trucks are all pre emissions and I can actually afford to work on them
Holy cow! I'm so glad I didn't buy new like I was going to. I found a sweet 2002 Silverado HD w 40k miles. Looks like I'll be keeping it for many years to come!
Fully Deleted. Full Bolt Ons. Tune. Enjoy more power, better fuel economy, better throttle response, and, if your tuner is competent, no smoke or other problems.
A great way to reduce the bad emissions from your diesel engine is to add sodiumsilicate to the engine oil , its more efficient then adding complicated subsystems to your engine .
I found a woman near Clear Lake California with a old dually F-350 and UNDER 250,000 miles and a Excellent fifth wheel hitch already installed. Asked her what she wanted for it. $13,000 she said. I stayed calm and bought it 5 years ago. New front brakes, a turbo tube, 7 Tires, 8 injectors with valve cover wiring to improve cold start and a shudder..a side mirror and some paint. I'm in Love.(Injector job was $3,600 - OEM - by a Diesel shop).
My buddy just put his 2011 Pete in the shop for $21,000(warranty) & the truck still isn't right.....FUCK THAT WARRANTY! It doesn't cover your downtime.
B______ F________ is that all i would need to do? im buying a 2012 srt longbed 2500. i want them to do all the work for me at the shop while its there. i appreciate all your knowledge man. this is my first diesel truck. im rigging it out for welding
And most the fuckin time they cant mechanic their way through a simple fluids change... atleast the local dealer here cant. local dude had his pickup at the dealer for over 6 months because they couldnt get it to start(one of their guys some how fried the computer) so they put a new one in... turns out they put an auto trans computer in a stick truck, damn thing was looking for park and wouldnt start without that...
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Thanks for a VERY lucid exploration/explanation of these acronyms. A trifle too fast, but a repeat viewing will follow!
So let me get this straight..... Adding an EGR gives you less emissions, but worse fuel mileage and more wear on your engine. Adding a DPF gives you less emissions, but worse fuel mileage and more wear on your engine. Adding a SCR and DEF tank will give you less emissions but potentially worse reliability. So is all this emissions out of the tailpipe being reduced worth it if you may have to rebuild an engine in 400,000 miles? Is that really more green vs. a truck pre-egr that can easily get 1-1.5 million miles before a rebuild?
If you think about it, 400k is a decent run for even reliable diesel engines. Most have failed before that point because of bad maintenance habits. Vs a single owner truck well maintained that you can expect 1M miles because he spent the time and money to keep it healthy when nothing was wrong with it yet. I think these factors still matter more
@@edwardrook8146 my truck 🛻 after only 55K miles is at the shop, for what you asked? That’s a great question, the EGR was clogged and damage a few other components I must also add that I bring my truck for regular maintenance, last oil fuel filters change was around 5K miles ago
@@Pinpon-ni8vc My sympathies to your truck situation sir, I certainly understand the EPA mandated technologies are very unreliable and can be destructive to even new diesel engines. I have all pre-emissions diesel trucks in my fleet so that is what my experience is limited to.
This is a great video and very clearly states how mad the word is. I drive a 09 Nissan 2.5 Hardbody / Navara /np300 in Africa, with no real emission laws here. I had a straight through (2 muffler) exhaust installed for $200, fitted a EGR blank for $5, Had a chip installed for $300 (Dyno included) and had my boost notched up just a small little bit by playing with the waste gate (Not to much, i realize this is not always good). I still change my oil as often as i possibly can and my truck runs circles around the larger 3L model. I have gained 30% in power and 20% in fuel economy. The motor is far more responsive, and the exhaust runs clean (visibly). I have driven the truck for 7 years now and have never had a fault. I strongly suggest that you delete all these ridiculous items from your vehicle, and enjoy saving the planet with far more power :)
nothing like the smell of def when its scrubbing.. smells like some sort of acidic pepper spray combination.. But those are good emissions lol Id much rather smell diesel fumes..
Those chemicals really worry me, I've noticed them a lot lately and they make me feel really bad when walking past a vehicle that is spewing them out (bad as in I can't breathe) I never had that problem with regular diesel exhaust.
I was in the market to replace my O2 Freightliner Detroit series 60 .12.7 and over 1.4 million miles untouched.no egr or def. With a newer truck 2014 or newer. I think I'll stick to the one I have.
Great video, very informative. Just an FYI though, NO2 is technically "Nitrogen Dioxide." The "Nitrous Oxide" you are referring to would be N2O, which is also known as "laughing gas"
One thing very few people understand is that a DPF regeneration burns accumulated soot but does nothing then to pass the ash thst is still trapped in the DPF. By design, a DPF must be dropped periodically to have the accumulated ash blown out. The irony, at least in HD where my experience derives, is that I have never seen a DPF reach a blowout service interval. The engine either fouled the DPF via doser, injector, turbo, EGR cooler, etc failure, or commercial companies have learned to proactively blow their DPFs as part of a regular maintenance procedure. Thank your fabulous EPA at the demand of CARB.
Hi...Im not here to have a go at you...Your diagram is excellent but its just that my 1kd had severe sooting problem in throttle body, Inlet Mainfold and Inlet port in head which was created by PCV (Oil vapours) and EGR.
Joe mine also has severe soot. Sent to dealer and they said repair or replacement is thousands. Instead I sold em the truck bought new and now looking for delete options.
I just bought a 2009 Ford Mondeo. You guys in the US probably have never heard of the mondeo but they are popular here in Ireland. It has the 1.8 litre tdci engine. Great engine that Ford have been using here for years. It has no dpf but it does have an egr which I will be blanking very soon
Fpt are using doc and scr. Only dpf on engines 100hp or less. These are increasing the operating costs but being someone who use to end up in hospital a couple of times a year with respitorery issues I'm pleased that these are in use and deleting them should be illegal
Best way to describe this innovation. Short of breath and constipated. Every time the engine warning light stays on essentially means the exhaust system needs deep cleaning. So sad.
Best solution: bring your diesel to a tuner and let them remove the EGR from the software. Then the dpf wont have to run and your gas mileage goes up. In Holland the yearly MOT doesnt check the software en the NOx stays within the limits because the MOT limits on used cars is lower then the limits on newly developed cars. You could even try and remove your dpf but that could be noticed by the MOT
Sorry but you're wrong. The DPF will still catch soot, it's how the engine works. I had my EGR disabled and yes the DPF would no longer regen but the Differential pressure sensor through a code because the DPF was getting clogged. Just do it the right way and remove everything and have it all disabled via software.
the egr delete kits works wonders, also..using tap water instead of def fluid works too...in commercial trucks-it is all about operating costs and def/egr expenses do indeed factor in
Simplicity in engine designs is key for a good reliable engine. As soon as they bolt on all of this useless emissions crap on it, that once reliable, dependable diesel engine becomes an endless money pit. That goes for both gas and Diesel engines. The solution: delete it as soon as you buy it.
The conspiracy theory about that exact topic is that oil companies are lobbying the government for exactly that reason. They ask the government to increase restrictions on emissions to make vehicles consume more fuel for 'clean' air.
@@MyWatchIsEnded it's not a conspiracy when it's clearly the case. An inefficient engine that has to burn more fuel to do the same job means more immissions. Having a free flowing intake/ exhaust with an accurate tune will save fuel and gain power. Less need to accelerate harder to do the same job.
@@marcusbarnes5929 agreed plus their definition of "efficient" is severely lacking. They cry out how semi trucks are "inefficient and polluting" and yet they never account for the fact that semi trucks are doing necessary 'work' and that they're making 4-10mpg from 34,000lbs to 80,000+ which is by definition efficient since they are making acceptable fuel numbers for a lot of work produced. Is it efficient for a car carrying one person 300 miles and burning 24 gallons or is it efficient that an 80,000lb semi is carrying 45,000lbs of cargo/goods and only burning 50 gallons in 300 miles?
One thing is never discussed is how much goes into: Making all these extra parts; mining of metals. Cost and environmental impact of the transportation of new, and replacement part where sold originally and later when they break. Impact of engines that prematurely fail. Power of processing, transport and storage of DEF in bulk or jugs. It goes on and on. The only thing after my turbo is some pipe and a muffler.
The thousand dollar question is: What are the consequences for the engine and computer settings? I guess you are not even filling DEF? What about that gauge?
A very informative video. With the EGR reducing the Nx by cooling the exhaust gas which is in opposition to the DPF which needs heat to remove the soot, the whole system is a mess. The result might be a cleaner tailpipe emission but an engine block chocked up with abrasive carbon and unburned fuel sounds like a recipe for expensive repairs. It is a pity as diesels have great torque and good fuel economy. Unfortunately I do a lot of short stop start driving so it looks like I am out???
This has been super informative, thank you for putting this together! Some clarifying questions: So with deleting, can I deleted everything but the DEF/SCR and then run it while still achieving mileage and power/efficiency gains, without causing backpressure back into the engine? or does the SCR still cause some backpressure?
You state that the bypass filter is effective down to 1 micron. What level of efficiency? 10%? 20%? 50%? The 2 oil analysis photos that you presented show lower particulate count with the oil that was run through the filter. What particulate materials were captured within the filter? Boron? Zinc? Phosphorous? Aluminum? Iron? Calcium?
40,000 miles mine failed pulling my camper and was forced to find a dealer. They couldn't fix it right away and had to set up camp at the dodge dealer. Now I got 57,000. Am I going to break down every 40,000. They said it couldn't regenerate fast enough.
just delete the thing. keep the shell of the DPF and keep the stock system kicking around for when you sell it or is checked for emissions shit the shell will make it look stock and passable
nan dpf r the reason now why asthmatic can be around diesel engines.i used to think dpf etc made diesel worse but now since i replaced and serviced the car its running great.DPF are like catalytic convertors and are here to stay!
Great informative video on how a modern diesel engine works and the benefit of an adblue system. Also any video that ends with led Zeppelin gets a thumbs up from me.
As a diesel tech....I love all these additions required by the EPA.....Provides job security as shit keeps fucking up
That's government for ya
Talking outta your ass? Try getting educated on this process. There are some good videos on the process, if you can sit thru the entire 8 minutes and understand the chemistry. Here is it. ruclips.net/video/NPM40ey1OHQ/видео.html
@@brucelston sorry that was a bit harsh. It’s really meant for anyone who thinks they know better than the engineers and scientists who developed this and then did a delete of the def system. Providing more pollution that needed.
Lmao
What you describe is collusion that leads to oligarchy. You seem to be happy with that.
This guy knows how to teach and make it clear to newbies like myself. Thanks for being vivid and to the point. 2 thumbs up.
Thank you for your response. We will be posting more videos in the near future.
He chats shite ....
as good as it looks on paper, it doesn't matter what you do to control the emissions produced by the motor, those filters still choke up the engine and will never allow it to run at its best especially with a turbo equipped motor, i've seen many turbos fail on diesels simply because the filters and converters choke them out tremendously
As far as I understand, the EGR as what really contributes to that through depositing so much gunk into the oil. The engine can handle dirty oil for quite some time but turbos are far more sensitive to that.
Thank you for your reply.
Just adds to the thoery, that “if “ you want to keep your engine/carlong term, changed your oil & filter at regular intervals. Not at manufacturers (ie 5-10k not 20-30klms!!!!
You simplified all the terminologies in one single image and a video of 13 min and its crystal clear. Thank you very much
Every single diesel vehicle owner in the world should watch this video right now!
Absolutely the best video I've ever seen on YooToob. Thank you, sir.
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@@viktorasdubakovas4975 Don't correct a native speaker EVER, ESL.
Excellent presentation 👍 I got VW T5.1 BUS 🚐 4Motion 2.0tdi 140.HP. And after I watch this video, I will immediately order my VW Bus to my mechanic to EGR and DPF Delete. I have no problem with that system but, but that garbage which will destroy my engine. Diesel power 💪. Greetings from Croatia 🇭🇷
I bought my 2015 dmax brand new. I deleted it about 3000 miles in. Best thing I could have ever done. It took one limp mode on the interstate to make up my mind.
I did the deletes on my diesel pickup, and I went from getting 13 mpg to 22mpg. Getting better fuel economy = less pollution. The EPA crap is a contradiction. Burning more fuel to go the same amount of distance is not better for the environment nor for my pocket book. The only thing that the EPA crap does is force diesel owners to buy more fuel and makes the oil companies richer.
Couldn't have said it better! Thanks.
and clog up and wear out their motors so they have to buy a new car sooner
But if you deleted the DEF then you are now producing more NOX , you are burning nitrogen. I do not know how big a problem that is for the atmosphere, acid rain or what. I am inclined to distrust the EPA assessment of NOX but Im going to keep my DEF system because it is working and it is cheap.
if you do the delete on your pov i do not know the consequence of fines etc. as a professional mechanic i am NOT allowed to delete your egr system. the fines are in the thousands per day that they (epa) says it ran. ask Volkswagen how that worked out. they would LOVE to make an example of you and your pocket book. they mandate, we comply. if you don't like it, vote in someone who will make a change! like, i don't know maybe> MAGA!
Jarheads4Yeshua , i have a 2016 cummins megacab , im getting 22 hwy at 60mph. Any faster and it devours fuel. I have no mods.
Drill a few big holes thru the DPF, block of the EGR and be a happy camper
Ive spent tens of thousands on repairing this system and tens of thousands of lost income due to down time this year. Man I hope this last one is it for a while.
I've got an older 2000 diesel truck. Getting about 23mpg. I blanked the EGR valve and ran a straight thru exhaust pipe. Getting about 30mpg now. And its the best its ever run.
Good!
what brand ///engine
30 mpg on a medium size diesel truck? Dude, what truck and what engine?
If the manufacturers would finally listen to people and come out with an EGR that shuts off when regen mode engages the world would be a happier place.
From a mechanics view, I've had so many problems with EGRs... they're always such a pain
Frequent cleaning should help.
New to the Diesel world (2017 F350 6.7L) I have watched 100+ videos, read forums, and talked with a few longtime owners. This was the best video to teach me about the engine process and understand the EPA junk. I literally emailed Banks Power Corporate with a, "If I have to be EPA compliant, how do I correct the EGR, DPF, and SCR problems with aftermarket solutions?" They got back to me by suggesting their tuning module, pedal controller, intake, and exhaust.... So the boastful "EPA Compliant" company doesn't have a solution for any of these systems. My Vote - Delete everything. I would think the Aftermarket community would have "Compliant" fixes with upgraded systems. Hell, there's probably Government grant money for companies to do so. But there isn't.
Thank you for showing me what all needs to be removed
I was deciding between a 13' duramax and an 06' cummins and your "real deal" video made my decision for me.... ya I'll go with the cummins
Now exhaust fluid is a thing. Next, blinker fluid.
Dont fucking give them ideas.
moiziz
lol
moiziz youre forgetting elbow grease, left handed hammers, steam in a can, universal allen wrenches, and paper stretchers.
dont forget skyhooks and brick stretchers!
Rookies yall always forget about arc start,spark samples, and tire air replacement
I wish I could roll back my 2013 TDI Golf to the factory setting. That emissions fix sucked the wind out of my Golf.
$8000 for new part or... 1500 for straight pipe and voided warranty, its about to get a lot louder in here bud
Am not sure with a straight pipe youll pass inspection when time comes.
I’m only a first year student in my school’s diesel program but wouldn’t it be a lot more than $1500 to delete all that stuff? I imagine it would be even more than $8000 if you could even find a shop that would do it
@@geoffrey9888 where I live we don’t have inspections
@@bradsmith2661 it’s not that hard to do it yourself if you’ve got the tools
@@jakefournie5930 You must be lucky then. Where i live there are inspections every year and failing inspections means the car is unroad worthy. Its crazy in our country.
Hi , I deleted my Peugeot 309 1900 diesel . I then put a hydrogen electrolizer on my car . After 3 yrs of running this vehicle I sold it to a friend, he stripped the engine, it was spotless , no sludge or cardon build up . The oil was tested and was found to be in good condition, after 3 yrs with no oil change 42000 miles . Fuel mileage went from 53 mpg to 70 . I know this works and I hope you can do research to put this on utube as well
One word... AWESOME! As a potential diesel owner, this was VERY informative. Thanks.
Awesome ?🤣🤣🤣
Don’t buy a diesel.
Buy a pre-emissions diesel.
Awesome?? What you gonna do, buy a petrol??
@@richardjones3112 Diesel engines will always have more power and sound better than gas engines. I bet you drive a Prius lmfao
Diesels are very common in UK, esp the Chelsea Tractors (Urban SUVs) going on shopping trips and taking kids to school on short journeys.. People simply do not understsnd, that they need to go on long journeys.. Personally, i have had nothing but problems with my city Diesel. I personally had to learn how to use it and clean the EGR valve and DPF.. but have learnt so much about general servicing.. thank you, your video is very clear snd informative
where is the WPS? (wallet protection system)
Bet this gentleman is a teacher. New subscriber here.
You have a gift of teaching as well, If you buy a diesel car make sure you know everything about it. Have to do the right thing. Thanks for your knowledge and thanks for sharing.
Thank you. Knowledge is power :-)
great video! Very useful also 8 years later
Soooo we invented a way to make engines break down more... got it
Well the human race likes to destroy things if it's not one another, it would be good old mechanical engineering that was sooo simple and easy in them days now we like to build things that brake just by flicking it
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Yup it’s either that or COPD and other diseases. But since the symptoms aren’t directly evident some would prefer to ignore them.
The EPA don't care as long as the animals in the north pole have a place to live without global warming the EPA would rather have us back to horse and buggy days
Lol
@@timothymorgan3563 nope horse farts need a hff (horse fart filter)
My 2014 Kenworth at around 50000 miles the SCR had to changed I think it was around $5000.00 or $6000.00 to do . BUt it was covered by warranty . Now the EGR cooler had to be replaced and that was just under $6000.00 . This time I was 3 months out of warranty . All this is just a crime to the truck owner !
The EPA and the Federal Government KNEW long before these regulations came into effect the damage EGR and DEF would do to diesel engines. Yet they passed them anyway. This was Clinton Era EPA that came up with the regulations. This is why CAT no longer makes on road use diesel engines. CAT, Cummins, and Detroit Diesel testified before Congress on the damage these new EPA regs were going to do to engines and the negative impact on the trucking industry. No one cared.
My last truck, a 09 Western Star, had probably the BEST emissions setup. NO EGR. It had a 60 Series Detroit with a Re-Gen system. The exhaust system had a DPF, and the entire exhaust system had fuel lines and spark plugs at intervals along it. There were sensors for soot every so far. If ANY sensor showed soot, from that sensor back got fuel shot to it and ignited by the spark plug. NEVER in 450,000 miles I drove that truck did I have ANY soot issues or problems. The engine was California Certified Clean Diesel.
That sounds like a much better system @mean45acp, why don't they make all cars and trucks with that system? I.e. what's the downside for them? (Apart from us not having to have them serviced as regularly, replace them as often or buy fuel as frequently, obviously!).
So it the EGR system that hurts the system. I could leave the DPF and DEF/SCR system in play?
My truck is a 2006 with a 6.0 turbo-charged diesel. It doesn’t have an EGR valve and based on this info, I’m thankful.
This is the best explanation of the processes I've seen or heard anywhere. Thanks
Thank you. Knowledge is power.
I have a 2000 detroit diesel series 60 with 1000000 miles plus and that thing runs cleaner than any new engine which would spend most of its 400000 miles in the shop.
I did egr delete with a turbo back 5” straight pipe on my ecodiesel 🤘
I solved all the issues with my exhaust scrubbing systems. I took that crap off. My fuel mileage went way up and now my exhaust looks really cool when I romp on the throttle.
So in practice the only reason that these systems exist is so the environment wankers can feel satisfied
Tor Arne Bråten that and those b.s. acronym agencies / gov. can make money
Tor Arne Bråten yes and they can mak3 more money
Its actually from the clean air and water act of 1972, put into place by President Nixon as he was trying to out do a rival politician to garner public support. At the time, the environment was a large political platform. Nixon also created the EPA, but soon found it to be a hindrance to him and tried to cut its funding and render it useless, however he had allowed safeguards to be put into place to prevent that from happening, as an environmental legislative entrepreneur wrote the bill, and not Nixon's staff (because they were to lazy to write the bill themselves). Nixon, trying to show off actually made the bill more strict than the "Environmentalists" did, to try and outdo Senator Edward Muskie, who at the time, was considered the largest supporter of environmental policy; and was polling better than Nixon. So it wasn't to please those "environment wankers", it was shady politicians trying to garner public support for re-election. As the majority of the United States was suffocating from unregulated surfer dioxide and nitrous oxide emissions from manufacturers who were over polluting and causing major health issues in large cities in the late 60's and early 70. So really if you think about it the bill came into effect because of those conservative industrial greedy wankers. You should also look up the "Tragedy of the commons", might learn something. Education is something people on RUclips should invest in!
Oh and you can also blame those "Canadian wankers", as they put tremendous pressure on the U.S. to tighten regulations on pollutants (in the early 1980's, I believe it was 1983 when they increased the legislation on the clean air and water act (amending it)) because the air pollutants were all going north and causing large amounts of acid rain, which was impacting soil pH levels and starting to have large degradation on forest growth, and as a domino effect was impacting the animal and other plant ecology.
Preston Gladd fuck Nixon
almost started wheat field on fire cause DPF was so hot. Deleted EGR DPF. Oil at change was noticeably cleaner and got a 15 % increase in fuel economy.
best explination I have ever heard on this subject!
The dpf collects soot and ash. The truck series today has been creating over heat which then cracks the egr cooler that sends coolant to the dpf and burns.
Your def fluid is injected into the scr. You have an injector for the def and dpf for fuel.
We do oil sampling to check our oil from being contaminated. Nox sensors you have 1 on the intake and the 2nd one on the exit. The def fluid is injected in front of the scr. Depending on the truck i have seen Macks heat at the dpf around 1200 degrees. There is also a SCR crystalline regen that creates a heat range near 1600 degrees. Every def tank i have seen has a tank heater. This is a heater that uses engine coolant to heat the tank.
If you want to keep your truck running take it to an Aftertreatment specialist.
The aftertreatment uses a differential pressure sensor this is located on or near the dpf it has 2 hoses that recieves pressure from both sides of dpf. The computer uses this sensor to activate the regen when the numbers climb. When you have your laptop on your truck you can see the soot levels and ash.
This was explained very well, and being a newbie to diesel trucks (and will never go back) helped me to the conclusion that I do want a egr delete and downpipe. Thanks for your info.
Excellent choice
i have a quetion ...,EGR added in the engine on the year 2002 to low down NOx upstream ..,then untill 2010 they added the SCR and DEF to control NOx downsteam .THE QUESTION IS ; why at this time they don't throw EGR away the engine by added the air cooler come the engine and contol the temperature by the computer to restrict the high NOx in the upstream .Thank.
Iam glad my 84 f250 6.9 idi dont have all that crap on it may be underpowered by today's diesel standards but is one bulletproof engine and enough power for what I use it for
They will write books in the future about how stupid this system was for engines and how bad of a design it was.
They set the Diesel engine back 10 years with this disaster.
Gcal1956 10 years back means great Diesel engines lol. I got what you mean though, it’s weird this time around. Older is better as you know.
Yip..Look at 6.0's
Gas trucks will now outlive trucks with all this stupid def/dpf/epa bs
Except that now a 2.8 Duramax produces almost the same power as the original 7.3 ford diesel did. But whatever.... can't argue facts and logic with an idiot
ohgodwhat1 good luck towing anything bigger than a lawnmower with the 2.8 Duramax.
I’ve never actually sat down and done my homework on the light diesel emissions equipment. This was a pretty good break down. Clear and concise, I dig it.
This just confirmed that im doin right in keepin my 300k mile 05 ram
I've removed everything from turbo outlet to where it goes back to nature. 3 inch pipe with a 3 inch straight through muffler. no problems, no issues, no blockages, no power loss. Best thing I ever did to the truck.👍.........and of course blocked the EGR.
What type of truck and year?
Great video and thanks for the education. Just kinda skeptical about the infomercial at the end.
And to those who believe the government is to blame and they think they know better? Go ahead and try to invent a better way that pollutes less and costs less. No a deletion of the whole system is not an option. That creates more pollution. But many mouth breathers who don’t care about climate change and the air quality think a delete is ok. It’s the best we have so far. Let’s hope they get better systems in the future. Again thanks for the education.
I burn a lot of diesel in my tree service and I do sometimes think about the amount of pollution that I'm putting out. But my trucks are all pre emissions and I can actually afford to work on them
@@edwardrook8146 , I totally understand, my comment was really to those who remove the items required by law/epa. Thanks for sharing
Holy cow! I'm so glad I didn't buy new like I was going to. I found a sweet 2002 Silverado HD w 40k miles. Looks like I'll be keeping it for many years to come!
Excellent video for giving folks an understanding of the word salad of the initials of fail in a modern diesel emissions system!
Glad we could clarify your word salad.
One of the best explanations I have seen of this system and the reasoning.
Thank you!
Actually, this clown does know what he’s trying to explain. EGR cools combustion temperatures. That’s how it avoids creation of NOx.
Fully Deleted. Full Bolt Ons. Tune.
Enjoy more power, better fuel economy, better throttle response, and, if your tuner is competent, no smoke or other problems.
Simple and concise.
I was trying to remember why we were dumping fuel and dpf in exhaust system.
I'm a heavy truck mechanic over 40 years experience the EPA should stay out of the engine manufacturing industry they make more trouble
A great way to reduce the bad emissions from your diesel engine is to add sodiumsilicate to the engine oil , its more efficient then adding complicated subsystems to your engine .
What does it do exactly? Can you elaborate this further?
Best explanation I have heard on DEF thanks
Glad you liked it :-) Knowledge is power.
I found a woman near Clear Lake California with a old dually F-350 and UNDER 250,000 miles and a Excellent fifth wheel hitch already installed. Asked her what she wanted for it. $13,000 she said. I stayed calm and bought it 5 years ago. New front brakes, a turbo tube, 7 Tires, 8 injectors with valve cover wiring to improve cold start and a shudder..a side mirror and some paint. I'm in Love.(Injector job was $3,600 - OEM - by a Diesel shop).
Basically, the truck runs better without that junk on the engine!
you can't take it off without redoing the whole computer shit... truck won't start without it
And a big fine if you get caught
My buddy just put his 2011 Pete in the shop for $21,000(warranty) & the truck still isn't right.....FUCK THAT WARRANTY! It doesn't cover your downtime.
B______ F________ is that all i would need to do? im buying a 2012 srt longbed 2500. i want them to do all the work for me at the shop while its there. i appreciate all your knowledge man. this is my first diesel truck. im rigging it out for welding
And most the fuckin time they cant mechanic their way through a simple fluids change... atleast the local dealer here cant. local dude had his pickup at the dealer for over 6 months because they couldnt get it to start(one of their guys some how fried the computer) so they put a new one in... turns out they put an auto trans computer in a stick truck, damn thing was looking for park and wouldnt start without that...
Thanks for a VERY lucid exploration/explanation of these acronyms. A trifle too fast, but a repeat viewing will follow!
So let me get this straight..... Adding an EGR gives you less emissions, but worse fuel mileage and more wear on your engine. Adding a DPF gives you less emissions, but worse fuel mileage and more wear on your engine. Adding a SCR and DEF tank will give you less emissions but potentially worse reliability. So is all this emissions out of the tailpipe being reduced worth it if you may have to rebuild an engine in 400,000 miles? Is that really more green vs. a truck pre-egr that can easily get 1-1.5 million miles before a rebuild?
It's about destroying your car under ecological pretext. It's the genocide agenda , making your life difficult every way they can.
If you think about it, 400k is a decent run for even reliable diesel engines. Most have failed before that point because of bad maintenance habits. Vs a single owner truck well maintained that you can expect 1M miles because he spent the time and money to keep it healthy when nothing was wrong with it yet. I think these factors still matter more
@@danielandries3240 It's communist. Thats what the communist party did to the Russian people.
@@edwardrook8146 my truck 🛻 after only 55K miles is at the shop, for what you asked? That’s a great question, the EGR was clogged and damage a few other components
I must also add that I bring my truck for regular maintenance, last oil fuel filters change was around 5K miles ago
@@Pinpon-ni8vc My sympathies to your truck situation sir, I certainly understand the EPA mandated technologies are very unreliable and can be destructive to even new diesel engines. I have all pre-emissions diesel trucks in my fleet so that is what my experience is limited to.
This is a great video and very clearly states how mad the word is. I drive a 09 Nissan 2.5 Hardbody / Navara /np300 in Africa, with no real emission laws here. I had a straight through (2 muffler) exhaust installed for $200, fitted a EGR blank for $5, Had a chip installed for $300 (Dyno included) and had my boost notched up just a small little bit by playing with the waste gate (Not to much, i realize this is not always good). I still change my oil as often as i possibly can and my truck runs circles around the larger 3L model. I have gained 30% in power and 20% in fuel economy. The motor is far more responsive, and the exhaust runs clean (visibly). I have driven the truck for 7 years now and have never had a fault. I strongly suggest that you delete all these ridiculous items from your vehicle, and enjoy saving the planet with far more power :)
That is good to hear.
nothing like the smell of def when its scrubbing.. smells like some sort of acidic pepper spray combination.. But those are good emissions lol Id much rather smell diesel fumes..
Mike Baer you could say it smells like burning piss, probably because it is
Those chemicals really worry me, I've noticed them a lot lately and they make me feel really bad when walking past a vehicle that is spewing them out (bad as in I can't breathe) I never had that problem with regular diesel exhaust.
He'll yeah
@@littlemisssunshine2931 same here but the epa says its healthy
I love the smell of diesel early in the morning.
I was in the market to replace my O2 Freightliner Detroit series 60 .12.7 and over 1.4 million miles untouched.no egr or def. With a newer truck 2014 or newer. I think I'll stick to the one I have.
Thank you. My brother explained this to me, but since we are brothers I thought he was full of crap but apparently knew his stuff lol.
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Looks like the videos a couple years old but the info is still very good and relevant and the outro music is kick ass!
thank you so much , I've been searching for this information and you just put in a nice convenient way ,great explanation .
You are welcome. Glad to help.
You're an amazing teacher, all my questions were answered in this one video. People like you should be teaching med school.
Great video, very informative. Just an FYI though, NO2 is technically "Nitrogen Dioxide." The "Nitrous Oxide" you are referring to would be N2O, which is also known as "laughing gas"
Thank you for letting us know. We will make the correction.
One thing very few people understand is that a DPF regeneration burns accumulated soot but does nothing then to pass the ash thst is still trapped in the DPF. By design, a DPF must be dropped periodically to have the accumulated ash blown out. The irony, at least in HD where my experience derives, is that I have never seen a DPF reach a blowout service interval. The engine either fouled the DPF via doser, injector, turbo, EGR cooler, etc failure, or commercial companies have learned to proactively blow their DPFs as part of a regular maintenance procedure. Thank your fabulous EPA at the demand of CARB.
Hi...Im not here to have a go at you...Your diagram is excellent but its just that my 1kd had severe sooting problem in throttle body, Inlet Mainfold and Inlet port in head which was created by PCV (Oil vapours) and EGR.
Joe mine also has severe soot. Sent to dealer and they said repair or replacement is thousands. Instead I sold em the truck bought new and now looking for delete options.
I just bought a 2009 Ford Mondeo. You guys in the US probably have never heard of the mondeo but they are popular here in Ireland. It has the 1.8 litre tdci engine. Great engine that Ford have been using here for years. It has no dpf but it does have an egr which I will be blanking very soon
Thanks! Great explanation! You've helped me understand how my bad DPM filter can cause dirty oil and damager to my engine.
You are welcome.
Fpt are using doc and scr. Only dpf on engines 100hp or less.
These are increasing the operating costs but being someone who use to end up in hospital a couple of times a year with respitorery issues I'm pleased that these are in use and deleting them should be illegal
DEF isn't ammonia, it's urea CO(NH2)2. Congratulations for your lectures, thanks a lot.
Best way to describe this innovation. Short of breath and constipated. Every time the engine warning light stays on essentially means the exhaust system needs deep cleaning. So sad.
Best solution: bring your diesel to a tuner and let them remove the EGR from the software. Then the dpf wont have to run and your gas mileage goes up. In Holland the yearly MOT doesnt check the software en the NOx stays within the limits because the MOT limits on used cars is lower then the limits on newly developed cars. You could even try and remove your dpf but that could be noticed by the MOT
Best answer yet!
Then it plugs up, right?
Sorry but you're wrong. The DPF will still catch soot, it's how the engine works. I had my EGR disabled and yes the DPF would no longer regen but the Differential pressure sensor through a code because the DPF was getting clogged. Just do it the right way and remove everything and have it all disabled via software.
@@1tokeover Is it still possible to do a delete since the EPA is more strictly enforcing their draconian rules ?
the egr delete kits works wonders, also..using tap water instead of def fluid works too...in commercial trucks-it is all about operating costs and def/egr expenses do indeed factor in
Simplicity in engine designs is key for a good reliable engine. As soon as they bolt on all of this useless emissions crap on it, that once reliable, dependable diesel engine becomes an endless money pit. That goes for both gas and Diesel engines.
The solution: delete it as soon as you buy it.
2015 duramax was getting 17 mpg max did a delete tune an straight 5 inch best now is 24.9 mpg
Very interesting video and well explained. Thanks.
Thank you.
Right now Cummins has a recall on the SCR. Trucks with the ISX 15 between 2010-15.
They are all ways of decreasing enjine efficiency, so you use more fuel to be "cleaner"
The conspiracy theory about that exact topic is that oil companies are lobbying the government for exactly that reason. They ask the government to increase restrictions on emissions to make vehicles consume more fuel for 'clean' air.
@@MyWatchIsEnded it's not a conspiracy when it's clearly the case.
An inefficient engine that has to burn more fuel to do the same job means more immissions.
Having a free flowing intake/ exhaust with an accurate tune will save fuel and gain power. Less need to accelerate harder to do the same job.
@@marcusbarnes5929 agreed plus their definition of "efficient" is severely lacking.
They cry out how semi trucks are "inefficient and polluting" and yet they never account for the fact that semi trucks are doing necessary 'work' and that they're making 4-10mpg from 34,000lbs to 80,000+ which is by definition efficient since they are making acceptable fuel numbers for a lot of work produced.
Is it efficient for a car carrying one person 300 miles and burning 24 gallons or is it efficient that an 80,000lb semi is carrying 45,000lbs of cargo/goods and only burning 50 gallons in 300 miles?
One thing is never discussed is how much goes into:
Making all these extra parts; mining of metals.
Cost and environmental impact of the transportation of new, and replacement part where sold originally and later when they break.
Impact of engines that prematurely fail.
Power of processing, transport and storage of DEF in bulk or jugs.
It goes on and on. The only thing after my turbo is some pipe and a muffler.
My DPF has already been removed... Removing my EGR soon!
The thousand dollar question is: What are the consequences for the engine and computer settings? I guess you are not even filling DEF? What about that gauge?
Best explanation I have seen yet for diesel emissions junk
A very informative video. With the EGR reducing the Nx by cooling the exhaust gas which is in opposition to the DPF which needs heat to remove the soot, the whole system is a mess. The result might be a cleaner tailpipe emission but an engine block chocked up with abrasive carbon and unburned fuel sounds like a recipe for expensive repairs. It is a pity as diesels have great torque and good fuel economy. Unfortunately I do a lot of short stop start driving so it looks like I am out???
Good luck.
This is why I have my 01 7.3 powerstroke..... dont have to worry about this. It's a different story about my 15 f450 king ranch though...
Trade off from soot to the DPF then produces nano particles which pass through lung lining to the blood stream! Great stuff!
I know you wrote this forever ago but could you please elaborate? What are you saying?
Thanks for this video this is something every owner op should watch
15 micron oil filter is the best for oil, 1 micron will remove the built in oil additives, use 1 micron for fuel filtering only
Terrific and very informative video. Thx for the hard work.
This is the dumbest design..I've had my semi in the shop constantly..From failed nox censors..act problems..I'm turning 2 Delete..
I have a 2014 jeep grand cherokee eco diesel. Had a recent recall on this EGR since my jeep was over heating. Since its been great 👍
This has been super informative, thank you for putting this together! Some clarifying questions:
So with deleting, can I deleted everything but the DEF/SCR and then run it while still achieving mileage and power/efficiency gains, without causing backpressure back into the engine? or does the SCR still cause some backpressure?
Based on this video and the comments here, I would keep SCR but without a doubt delete EGR and DPF.
We appreciate your kind words.
You state that the bypass filter is effective down to 1 micron. What level of efficiency? 10%? 20%? 50%?
The 2 oil analysis photos that you presented show lower particulate count with the oil that was run through the filter. What particulate materials were captured within the filter? Boron? Zinc? Phosphorous? Aluminum? Iron? Calcium?
Great video, a very simple way to have a better understanding on how the system works or better said Supposed to work.
Thanks again
Basic but valuable info for the diesel owner. Thanks for your feedback.
a buy pass filter. This filter when restricted will let oil flow past the filter element. not through the filter . But maintaining oil pressure.
We shouldn't be forced to use this system till its perfected
HGVs have been using it since 2006 in Europe.
40,000 miles mine failed pulling my camper and was forced to find a dealer. They couldn't fix it right away and had to set up camp at the dodge dealer. Now I got 57,000. Am I going to break down every 40,000. They said it couldn't regenerate fast enough.
now mines in the shop getting a whole new system.
just delete the thing. keep the shell of the DPF and keep the stock system kicking around for when you sell it or is checked for emissions shit the shell will make it look stock and passable
And it the UK, they plan to completely ban Diesel and Petrol cars in 2040. @@lynalllynall9082
nan dpf r the reason now why asthmatic can be around diesel engines.i used to think dpf etc made diesel worse but now since i replaced and serviced the car its running great.DPF are like catalytic convertors and are here to stay!
Best way to protect your diesel is to delete all that crap
maxst2 hell yeah
Chris, no emissions where I live so that’s not a concern.
Travis Marin Are you someplace outside the US?
maxst2
How do you delete? Pls respond. Thanks.
glad neither of my trucks have these.
Thanks a ton!! Was very informative!!
Great informative video on how a modern diesel engine works and the benefit of an adblue system.
Also any video that ends with led Zeppelin gets a thumbs up from me.