@L P Right but how many people used his invention? Building a gasoline car in 2019 alone from nothing is also amazing but largely useless. The key is writing something useful. I probably could write my own kernel and OS as well but if I chose to dedicate decades to that, I couldn't do anything else. Torvalds wrote something that now runs 90% of the world's computers and is obviously very useful.
@L P HolyC isn't really much different from C. I've seen his videos and what he is showing is identical to C with very minor changes. Also, no-one was using his OS when he was alive either. You're argument is sort of like "if you write stuff on paper and then burn it, no-one can get it!", sure. But I'll use Linux on my laptop, thanks. The goal is to use the computer as a tool.
@L P So you're paranoid. Linux is open source and I'm quite confident about its security. Oh yeah, I forgot that TempleOS doesn't have internet access, makes sense he was using Ubuntu for close to everything. Bill Gates is a genius (but also quite evil), Torvals is as well as already mentioned.
@L P Ok if you want to be literal. Someone uses it but I bet it's not more than a handful of people. Maybe it will find an use in some industrial systems but I highly doubt it. As a desktop OS it's pointless, we are not so starved for resources these days.
that is true. i am thinking of trying this OS out. i wish it had networking , that would be sweet. But it makes up for it for being so damn fast. even thought the graphics are a little strange, it is interesting to be able to draw graphics directly onto the screen . this is the only os i have seen do this. I want to learn to code in HolyC. that is fucking awesome. Does he have documentation on his HolyC ? i dont understand things like his U0 types in the functions, like U0 Main(). i wanna learn this stuff. its amazing. i know a little c code but this is amazing.
Absolutely, this is what amazes me about TempleOS - everything can be woven into anything. Graphics, the whole Hypertext thing and so on. Everything just fits. That's just extremely beautiful. The beauty of logic so to speak, staying coherent not only on a technical level but also on a conceptual one.
@@bigboysdotcom745 his bird is an imitating species and usually sings in melodic pitches because we tend to speak/listen to melodic and 12-tone tempered harmony. The bird's have probably been subjected to tons of his RNG-music which caused them to imitate such eery 'songs'
When he said that he created assembler, unassembler and C compiler just to add quick context to a sentence describing a command in HIS OWN OS, I legitimately thought of Law Abiding Citizen. Seems to me like this is the guy you actually really don’t want to piss off. At first I thought this isn’t really anything to learn from, but man. This OS is literally a learning tool for kids and adults. You can’t get any closer to the bare metal as he said, this is great.
computers should strive to be like that. Computers nowadays are so complex its insane honestly. I just finished watching Ben Eater's videos on building a fucking CPU by hand, and i cant tell you how simple it truly was. Kinda made me realize just how insanely stupid modern day code truly is. We got all these abstractions that litterally dont even fix the problem. You litterally gotta put more mental effort manging those "abstractions" than you do without em. Lowkey we should all just make shit as baremetal as possible. It makes shit wayyy easier to understand.
>no networking (impossible to hack or get get spyed on by "jogger" intelligence agency >in god's reccomended resolution >easy 3d graphics support >insanely optimized how more pretty can it be?
Well that's because he's coding on such a low level of abstraction... Low level code on a windows machine could also create a simple circle but that wouldn't make sense. You have to take account of the all the complexity you're given on a modern high level language today.. I mean- look at that screen? in all honesty it looks like something from the early 90's..
@@spagetmen WIndows is a clusterfuck because it can run pretty much anything compiled for a ms operating system from the past 2 decades. Templeos has... a few crappy games. Also what the hell does superior integration mean? Integration of what exactly? I also don't get how people think writing software in a custom, more advanced version of C is simple at all. Have you ever tried writing something in C? Unless you're writing an OS it's not worth the effort.
@@spagetmen I wouldn't know about that, I haven't messed with older windows versions in-depth. How was it a clusterfuck? I don't mean it's weaknesses, I mean unnecessary complexity. Still, it's legacy is weighing down on current windows heavily. For example the new things they're adding like the settings menu, but at the same time leaving in the old stuff so it's even more convoluted. In any case, that doesn't change anything about the other things I've said or about linux etc.
They already did... they called "cia nggers" Didn't you pay any attention, he constantly hinted, that cia made him schizophrenic... and wants him back to work on some evil shit
It feels like Davis is teaching us the entire operating system flow just before he died. I think we've to take his effort to the upper level by collaborating in his project. Though he died I hope that the source code is open. He deserves a better recognition.
Imagine making sth like a Mindmap directly in the code or put functions on different places and connect them with arrows in the code so you don't get lost
I always thought that graphics in code was interesting. I mean you can put everything into these files, right? With the rise of personal knowledge management it makes me wonder if we could use TempleOS as the ultimate note-taking app.
I dont understand how people can bash on such a hard working humble guy that shares all of his innovative secrets with the whole world, why dont just be nice and appreciate someone that is so dedicated to his passion, i mean who cares if linux is more useful the guy was schizophrenic and still created something so magnificent in just 2 megabytes
Nobody is bashing on him when they say that what he did isn't super useful. They're correcting the fanboys who assume he's the smartest guy on planet earth and don't understand that writing operating systems and programming languages is something that every CS student within the last 10 years has done in class. It isn't a knock on him, obviously he was a smart guy. But his stuff should be viewed more as art rather than technical achievement like people seem to think. I'm sure everyone appreciates it for what it is.
because of the hype he's a thicko, but you have non-programmers saying he's a genius.... it gets irritating for people who are professionals....... this guy is not even on the same level as Linus Torvads, Guido Van Rossum, Bjarne Stroustrup etc expect to find hostile types in anything that people really give a shit about, if people just "got along" you wouldn't have your computer there
Linux is not more useful than TempleOS because TempleOS was never intended to be a "3rd party" consumer item. When you use gmail, you are using 3rd party. You didn't make the email server. When you use google chrome, that is 3rd party. TempleOS was designed so the user becomes a developer. You have to learn everything. You learn how the assembler works, how the compiler works, etc. TempleOS would have internet if you coded the TCP/IP stack. It's designed to FORCE you to learn and "talk to god". Linux will never force you to learn all that. I love linux. I use linux. But you dont have to be a developer to use linux. U do on TempleOS
if you are mostly staying at home you will be getting depressed, by focusing on lower stuff, if youre not going outside and dont having freinds to have fun in life youre geting lonely as hell so in fact its mosly a social problem and self problem second its eating and drinking the best for staying healthy no need for medical drugs even you are too often outside or most of youre time you can get also sick/ill depends on physical and mentally state on each person
He had two. Maybe. He had the first one for a long time and he was was highly distressed when it dead. The 2nd one may have not existed to begin with. The story of how he got it was obviously a disillusion and he had an extreme hatred of it like he did for most of his imaginary figures.
The speaks completely lucid here! I have read somewhere that a hobby or passion tames the mental illness temporarily for some people. I think music has similar effecs.
Question: Did Mr Davis have an "issue" with Linux or are others comparing his TempleOS to Linux? Why would Mr Davis care about Linux at all, since he created his own OS? Thanks!
I don't think he thought of TempleOS as a replacement for Linux, but more of a place to have fun coding close to the metal. It's impressive he managed to create an OS to have fun, he was a really unique and intelligent man for sure.
@@user-hk3ej4hk7m Ok, that's cool. I keep hearing him mention Linux in his videos and I wondered why since his creation is incredible, by its own merit. Thanks for the reply!
@@mayankraj2294 Yes, comparing to a banana. :) Jose Ancapdolf Hidler posted a comment referring to comparing to a banana and I was responding to that comment. That comment was taken down, for whatever reason.
it's worth discussing if his mental issues contributed to his genius or not. i feel that dealing with mental issues is actually a part of being a true genius like terry, might sound like a weird theory but i think there is something to it
yes he is always looking for ways to shorten the code without removing any functionality NEVER SUGGEST ADDING MORE FEATURES THEY ARE BLOAT AND WILL SLOW GODS HOLY TEMPLE
The better I get at programming, the more I can appreciate this mans genius. Writing sprites directly to source files. KEK. Drawing a circle to screen with 1 line of code straight from the terminal. Why not? Anyone who has created a window on Windows knows what an absolute clusterfuck it is, let alone rendering graphics. He doesn’t use a linker. NO LINKER. Why the fuck are we still using linkers? This man could have revolutionized the computing world. Many at least are starting to wake up to the shitshow at least. RIP Terry.
@@demwz Here's a better analogy: it's as useful as a car made of transparent material where you can see right into the inner workings of the engine, transmission, electrical system, and change anything at will on the fly. In other words, extremely useful.
It doesn't even take decades to write an OS and Kernel lol. That can be done in a month or two for x86 architecture using VGA graphics and standard hardware inputs. It is literally a part of some CS student courses. That and writing your own programming language and compiler. search for "Writing an OS in Rust - Philipp Oppermann's blog". That gives a good beginners overview. The only amazing thing here is Terry's ability to still code anything whilst being an unmedicated schizophrenic.
All respect to Terry, what he's made is impressive, there's no way of denying that. But I struggle to see how TempleOS is better than any Unix based system at all? Linux is only a Kernel whilst TempleOS is an entire OS, there's that obviously, along with the 2mb against ~300mb size differences. TempleOS has some cool features, I do like the on-the-go C compiler in the command line, as well as the built-in sprites into HolyC, but that's the only thing that makes TempleOS even remotely interesting to me, compared to let's say Ubuntu, or Arch. I will definitely try TempleOS out of pure curiosity whenever I can, but I do think that saying that TempleOS is better than Unix or Linux is a statement that cannot really hold any ground. TempleOS is missing so many features that Unix systems have. I'm not saying the other one is better, I'm just saying that they're incredibly different, almost to the point where saying either is better is a complete waste of words. Again, all respect to Terry, he's done something very few people can - at least I cannot built my own OS as I lack the knowledge to do so. It's a shame that he passed away, would love to see where he'd take this in the future.
Unix has been designed 40 years ago. While hardware changed radically, we haven't seen real innovations in OS design. So any attempts to experiment with it are very interesting. And in software world we have too much of complexity in intermediate layers between software and hardware. Like Direct3D vs Vulkan. Or try to make your own PCIe-based device and access it with your software. There are plenty of situations where most of the UNIX'es features are unnecessary burden. For example, Linux includes all the device drivers in kernel, probably just to eliminate the performance penalty caused by context switching and memory copying. As a result we have a kernel that is 27 MILLIONS lines of code. It is disaster. Imagine developing a small project that has a dependency on 27 millions of lines of third-party code? And size matters, because size is complexity, complexity produces chaos, and chaos kills software. The less the better. The simpler the better.
I don't think TempleOS can really be compared to Unix and Linux either. What I do think is that TempleOS is undoubtedly simple and anti-legacy. Terry Davis seems heavily inspired by the hands-on programming of the Commodore 64. And since Terry Davis never cared about implementing old standards, he was free to tweak and develop his OS as he wished.
He's comparing his OS to UNIX. Doesn't that means he's competing with Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie and not Linus. That's what he said in the opening that he's demonstrating how his OS is better than UNIX.
@John Smith don't twist my words. I just pointed out that linux is not OS. Unix is environment. GNU is environment derived from Unix. There's a collection between Unix and Linux - sure, and is derived from the previous. But it's like saying that plant is an apple. It's true but plant is a higher subset (Unix) while linux is smaller (Kernel)
What would happen, if someone would use that as a codebase for a "modern" OS. Entirely written in HolyC, graphics turned up to 4K, a smooth GUI (because THIS is awful), networking, Account management reintroduced, HolyKern moved to Ring0, but everything else in the right Rings, etc. How much memory would it use, how fast would it be?
it would be cool but usseless becouse of lack of software... tho maybe it is possible to make it compatible with linux but at that point why not just make a linux distro?
As a "mentally ill" person, I have to say that it's true some there's some shall we say software compatibility issues because not everyone is born with the optimal hardware. BUT....there are interesting software fixes for that. You don't have to be a superhero, just find a way to adapt. My problem was never hearing voices, but I know some people that hear the right things so definitely a software issue. If it's all the brain, then it's probably a tumor or a lesion or something else.
I shall like to give you a map. Upgrade "mental illness" into "enviro-mental-illness", and it shall be plain for all to see, that in our, presently very sick, environment(s), that "genius" simply cannot be tolerated. For if genius were tolerated, we could begin to heal our environment(s). So those "at the top", simply delete that critical-prefix, "enviro", and delete the hyphen, thereby distancing the words in such a way that the relational-character between the 2 is lost. Those "at the top" split verbally, that which cannot be separated empirically. Un-sanity ensues...
For you, specifically. You do-not *have* a "mental illness". There is no such *thing* as a "mental illness". Stop labelling yourself as your slave-masters do. I *have* a lighter in my pocket. I *have* milk in my belly. Words-without-referents are dangerous, WHEN a person acts as-if a referent existing. "Unicorn" has no referent, save man-made artifacts, e.g., heraldry, fiction, etc. Your "mental illness", is-a "unicorn".
I really like that vector graphics program he made. The 3D editor is pretty neat too although I haven't seen much of it and don't know much about it. Problem is it's pretty pointless with it's terrible resolution and lack of all sorts of other features.
This guy and his OS are quite amazing. However, I can't imagine anything being better than Unix design principles even if Linux is not Unix it was still made under Unix design principles.
@@nukiradio I'm not saying it's impossible to improve Unix/Linux. They are being improved everyday. I'm saying the core design principles are pretty hard to beat, which is why Unix and Unix like OSes have been around so long and not been replaced by something "better".
@@davidnjkilla No you are missing one dimension. The economy dictates the progression of technology. People don't want to move away from it because of the costs to use a system nobody else uses.
@@Guztav1337 True, but it also comes down to the fact that Unix systems are literally designed to run massive systems with simplistic management. I'm not saying that Unix is the absolute best solution that will ever come around, but it is one of the best solutions that is currently available.
@@avananana Terry's whole point is that philosophy is outdated thinking, it is the thinking behind IBM Mainframes from the 70s where 100 people had to share limited memory on one machine that absolutely could never be allowed to crash. Why would a modern user's smartphone or personal laptop need to be designed for the same way, like you said, like a 'massive system needing simplistic management'?
@D.A. Botos Because that is just what it is. A pile of foul stenching garbage. His goal was the C64 in 64bit but he needed 2Mb to come not even close where the C64 only needed 16k for the complete system which included security and IO ports. I can even get on the internet with my trusty C64. Never underestimate the true power of the C64. My hopes are more to the 8-bit guy and his to be Commander X16. Now that is gonna be a real blast and a usable one as well. Think about it, a C64 on steroids with 2Mb of usable free ram (banked) instead of 38k and high-resolution.
4:08 the birds warning him of the CIA
What do you mean? The CIA made the birds in order to spy on him. The sound is signaling that they’re running out of battery.
haahaahhaahaha
I'm upgrading once dark theme is available
you can change that in the console
zenith os
@@rayi512x well zenith os isnt really an upgraded version,just same thung only few tweak changes
@@chemistryenjoyer53 but hey, dark theme!
@@alialshehri5640 You want to be ran over?
Torvalds only wrote a kernel. Davis wrote an entire OS.
I suppose posts like this are sarcastic?
@L P Right but how many people used his invention? Building a gasoline car in 2019 alone from nothing is also amazing but largely useless. The key is writing something useful. I probably could write my own kernel and OS as well but if I chose to dedicate decades to that, I couldn't do anything else. Torvalds wrote something that now runs 90% of the world's computers and is obviously very useful.
@L P HolyC isn't really much different from C. I've seen his videos and what he is showing is identical to C with very minor changes. Also, no-one was using his OS when he was alive either.
You're argument is sort of like "if you write stuff on paper and then burn it, no-one can get it!", sure. But I'll use Linux on my laptop, thanks. The goal is to use the computer as a tool.
@L P So you're paranoid. Linux is open source and I'm quite confident about its security. Oh yeah, I forgot that TempleOS doesn't have internet access, makes sense he was using Ubuntu for close to everything. Bill Gates is a genius (but also quite evil), Torvals is as well as already mentioned.
@L P Ok if you want to be literal. Someone uses it but I bet it's not more than a handful of people. Maybe it will find an use in some industrial systems but I highly doubt it. As a desktop OS it's pointless, we are not so starved for resources these days.
The compiler is written in Holy C.
No the compiler is written in C++. The compiler is what compiles HolyC
@@verl0000 The more you know
More interesting: The name, Holy C. That was funny
@@yaroslavgolub9475 so compiled c++?
@@verl0000 It was written in C and then rewritten in Holy C.
That's how you do compilers when using another lanugage to start from.
Because it has realistic elephants
Death to Anime Avatars liked because your name
I wouldn't mind seeing the world thru pixels...
my perfect world would be in homm3 graphics lol :DDDDD
putting graphics in source code is amazing, i legitimately wish linux could do this
that is true. i am thinking of trying this OS out. i wish it had networking , that would be sweet. But it makes up for it for being so damn fast. even thought the graphics are a little strange, it is interesting to be able to draw graphics directly onto the screen . this is the only os i have seen do this. I want to learn to code in HolyC. that is fucking awesome. Does he have documentation on his HolyC ? i dont understand things like his U0 types in the functions, like U0 Main(). i wanna learn this stuff. its amazing. i know a little c code but this is amazing.
I'm going to keep this OS for posterity sake.
Absolutely, this is what amazes me about TempleOS - everything can be woven into anything. Graphics, the whole Hypertext thing and so on. Everything just fits. That's just extremely beautiful. The beauty of logic so to speak, staying coherent not only on a technical level but also on a conceptual one.
It's based off commodore 64 but would be cool to see someone program some networking into it
Well, in some way you can do it with Jupyter notebooks, but I'm sure they took the idea from TempleOS.
Terry was the first to improve the C syntax in a way that isn't n-licious
Joggerlicious
ew racism
@@meep.472 oof! yikes!
@@meep.472 ew a whining loser :(
what
do
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mean? ;)
Did you hear that bird though? No wonder he went crazy
He killed the bird.
@Huff Poster He fkn said it himself "smashed its head off the table. No more bird".
ｌｉｂｅｒａｔｅｄ ｆｒｏｍ ｔｈｅ ｂｉｒｄ 囲ベぼア
Someone speculated that the bird is singing the song from one of his games, and it sounds eerily similar
@@bigboysdotcom745 his bird is an imitating species and usually sings in melodic pitches because we tend to speak/listen to melodic and 12-tone tempered harmony. The bird's have probably been subjected to tons of his RNG-music which caused them to imitate such eery 'songs'
It's cool how files just magically get compressed when you name them something that ends in ".Z"
'"Asia should be yellow"
“Africa should be black”
"Australia just got... screwed"
When he said that he created assembler, unassembler and C compiler just to add quick context to a sentence describing a command in HIS OWN OS, I legitimately thought of Law Abiding Citizen. Seems to me like this is the guy you actually really don’t want to piss off. At first I thought this isn’t really anything to learn from, but man. This OS is literally a learning tool for kids and adults. You can’t get any closer to the bare metal as he said, this is great.
computers should strive to be like that.
Computers nowadays are so complex its insane honestly.
I just finished watching Ben Eater's videos on building a fucking CPU by hand, and i cant tell you how simple it truly was.
Kinda made me realize just how insanely stupid modern day code truly is.
We got all these abstractions that litterally dont even fix the problem.
You litterally gotta put more mental effort manging those "abstractions" than you do without em.
Lowkey we should all just make shit as baremetal as possible.
It makes shit wayyy easier to understand.
@@honkhonk8009 Literally Davis' outlook. He hated macros for the exact reasons you mentioned.
He can just zoom and pan in anywhere, thats absolutely fantastic
he built his own world. it wasnt pretty, but it was his own
It was pretty
It was God's.
>no networking (impossible to hack or get get spyed on by "jogger" intelligence agency
>in god's reccomended resolution
>easy 3d graphics support
>insanely optimized
how more pretty can it be?
@@Cons-Cat 🤡
Your a genius man. Sad most people just won't get you until you've been nuetralized by the glow in the darx
agreed
YOU JINXED HIM. RIP TERRY DAVIS
You were right.
He up there with biggie and pac, callin em CIA niggas
Rip
7:10 is reason enough. Drawing on screen in one line, no 1500 lines of boilerplate to prepare a Window necessary.
Well that's because he's coding on such a low level of abstraction... Low level code on a windows machine could also create a simple circle but that wouldn't make sense. You have to take account of the all the complexity you're given on a modern high level language today.. I mean- look at that screen? in all honesty it looks like something from the early 90's..
@@RacmusDK I feel that was on purpose as he liked the C64 and hated having to write lots of code.
Ever tried GWBASIC?
@@spagetmen WIndows is a clusterfuck because it can run pretty much anything compiled for a ms operating system from the past 2 decades. Templeos has... a few crappy games.
Also what the hell does superior integration mean? Integration of what exactly?
I also don't get how people think writing software in a custom, more advanced version of C is simple at all. Have you ever tried writing something in C? Unless you're writing an OS it's not worth the effort.
@@spagetmen I wouldn't know about that, I haven't messed with older windows versions in-depth. How was it a clusterfuck? I don't mean it's weaknesses, I mean unnecessary complexity.
Still, it's legacy is weighing down on current windows heavily. For example the new things they're adding like the settings menu, but at the same time leaving in the old stuff so it's even more convoluted.
In any case, that doesn't change anything about the other things I've said or about linux etc.
Imagine terry didn’t die. But was kidnapped by an organization who wanted his ability to make a custom operating system
Don't need to imagine. We know the glow in the darks got him.
They already did... they called "cia nggers"
Didn't you pay any attention, he constantly hinted, that cia made him schizophrenic... and wants him back to work on some evil shit
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj he tried to escape but couldn't run them all over
🤔 Really punish
ya cia
4:53 "That's pretty funny... that's my screenshots for my... oh" Yeah yeah we get it man. No explanation needed.
And all in bitmap lel
Screenshots for what?
@@Dornatum You know "screenshots of what"
There's no place for that in a holy OS
You mean porn, right?
It feels like Davis is teaching us the entire operating system flow just before he died. I think we've to take his effort to the upper level by collaborating in his project. Though he died I hope that the source code is open. He deserves a better recognition.
The source code is not only open, it is easily accessible by TempleOS.
If you boot templeOS u can see each source file
Yeah everything just remembers him as being schizophrenic or racist
@@timltimothy3295 Those are the normalf4gs that only heard of him after he became a meme on social media
@timltimothy3295 not true, sir. We remember his achievements
@@Kim_YoJong I’m saying that in perspective the hormones would think that
I do LOVE his ideas...
Clever genius who's mind was hampered by his brain. Very sad, yet beautiful.
Rest In Peace Terry, and God please save his soul
The world SHOULD miss Terry A Davis.
I sure do........
Shane Irwin You know what didn’t miss Terry?
The train.
@@TheIncognitusMe so edgy and funny
@@TheIncognitusMe you know who didnt miss you? your dad when he went to get milk
@@i_am_ini Cigarettes, idiot.
@@i_am_ini hahahahaa xddddd you are the funny guy arent you
"Australia kinda got screwed" He's too real tbh
annabelleshaus even more so now lol
Yeas
You’re everywhere
check this ruclips.net/video/AbG6u86t4bA/видео.html
he was a prophet. (read comments if you don't get it the 1st time.)
Even more now, all authoritarian.
This was the video that made me discover TempleOS back in 2018, legendary!
Oh my god, The bird story might actually be true and he killed that cockatiel you hear in the background during a schizo episode.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
story? there's a story behind that? where? link please :)
@@goodluck6948 search for terry davis bird analogy
@Axion yeah figured it out a few months ago, thx anyway :)
No, he said in a video that it was sick and dying
I still can't believe your gone good Sir I hope you are at peace now King T.
His whole system is 2mb. 2mb. Wtf. Nintendo games weren't even that low.
Yes they were. Before they got to your country I suppose.
Nintendo games for the nes were about 40KB
Lol the man is clearly a beast of a programmer
GNX 64bit from 1996 fitted 1.44mb floppy disk
@@bogartwilley god
Flow chart-like annotations directly within source code. I like that idea.
Imagine making sth like a Mindmap directly in the code or put functions on different places and connect them with arrows in the code so you don't get lost
@@blyaticon8190 Choose your own adventure but it's code?
I always thought that graphics in code was interesting. I mean you can put everything into these files, right? With the rise of personal knowledge management it makes me wonder if we could use TempleOS as the ultimate note-taking app.
Anyways the fact that it compiles and executes line by line as he writes it is very impressive
I find Terry's voice soothing
Lol same ikr???
I thought it was just me.
I can hear this mf talk for hours. Idk why
The fucking bird going off full tilt made me laugh so harf
I dont understand how people can bash on such a hard working humble guy that shares all of his innovative secrets with the whole world, why dont just be nice and appreciate someone that is so dedicated to his passion, i mean who cares if linux is more useful the guy was schizophrenic and still created something so magnificent in just 2 megabytes
Nobody is bashing on him when they say that what he did isn't super useful. They're correcting the fanboys who assume he's the smartest guy on planet earth and don't understand that writing operating systems and programming languages is something that every CS student within the last 10 years has done in class. It isn't a knock on him, obviously he was a smart guy. But his stuff should be viewed more as art rather than technical achievement like people seem to think. I'm sure everyone appreciates it for what it is.
He wasn't humble, either. Lol, I'm not saying he wasn't sick but the man was not shy about saying he was the best
because of the hype
he's a thicko, but you have non-programmers saying he's a genius.... it gets irritating for people who are professionals....... this guy is not even on the same level as Linus Torvads, Guido Van Rossum, Bjarne Stroustrup etc
expect to find hostile types in anything that people really give a shit about, if people just "got along" you wouldn't have your computer there
Linux is not more useful than TempleOS because TempleOS was never intended to be a "3rd party" consumer item.
When you use gmail, you are using 3rd party. You didn't make the email server.
When you use google chrome, that is 3rd party.
TempleOS was designed so the user becomes a developer. You have to learn everything. You learn how the assembler works, how the compiler works, etc.
TempleOS would have internet if you coded the TCP/IP stack. It's designed to FORCE you to learn and "talk to god".
Linux will never force you to learn all that.
I love linux. I use linux. But you dont have to be a developer to use linux. U do on TempleOS
@@DarkShroom you sound like a whiney hater.
That bird would drive me literally crazy.
@Seppuku and then stomped it
This system is pretty neat, imo. Also, RIP king of the temple OS
bird gone mad
at 4:09 , i think the bird was the standard output for FindFiles
“Australia sort of got a screwed” lulz
Jesus christ, that bird is driving me fucking insane, no wonder he killed it
Hes a good man, his schitzoprenia should've been treated and should be studied more.
Q7B what the fuck are you doing here nigga
if you are mostly staying at home you will be getting depressed, by focusing on lower stuff, if youre not going outside and dont having freinds to have fun in life youre geting lonely as hell
so in fact its mosly a social problem and self problem
second its eating and drinking the best for staying healthy
no need for medical drugs
even you are too often outside or most of youre time you can get also sick/ill
depends on physical and mentally state on each person
@@badfactor83 ok psychiatrist
@@badfactor83 You said it all
RIP TERRY
...is that the bird he murdered?? oh my
I can kinda see why tbh
>murdered
*executed
probably never saw the light. Bad living conditions
He had two. Maybe. He had the first one for a long time and he was was highly distressed when it dead.
The 2nd one may have not existed to begin with. The story of how he got it was obviously a disillusion and he had an extreme hatred of it like he did for most of his imaginary figures.
Lol.
he says UNIX not Linux
Yep. He did.
I'd just like to interject for a second
Yes, linux is unix.
@@ianpat2768 Linux is not Unix, it's GNU
what XD
»Better« is an awfully subjective notion, especially in Terry’s case.
May he rest in peace.
The speaks completely lucid here! I have read somewhere that a hobby or passion tames the mental illness temporarily for some people. I think music has similar effecs.
In some ways it's like a Jupyter Notebook for C. Super cool to have this integrated into the shell.
God damn... No fucking wonder he chucked that bird against the wall.
Question: Did Mr Davis have an "issue" with Linux or are others comparing his TempleOS to Linux? Why would Mr Davis care about Linux at all, since he created his own OS? Thanks!
I don't think he thought of TempleOS as a replacement for Linux, but more of a place to have fun coding close to the metal. It's impressive he managed to create an OS to have fun, he was a really unique and intelligent man for sure.
@@user-hk3ej4hk7m Ok, that's cool. I keep hearing him mention Linux in his videos and I wondered why since his creation is incredible, by its own merit. Thanks for the reply!
@@joselaw6669 UNIX, macOS, Windows, or any other OS. I will admit, comparing to a banana would be quite the creative endeavor. :)
@@TheCocoaDaddy comparing banana?
@@mayankraj2294 Yes, comparing to a banana. :) Jose Ancapdolf Hidler posted a comment referring to comparing to a banana and I was responding to that comment. That comment was taken down, for whatever reason.
That fucking bird
Damn defense missile.cpp
It’s ironic that a man with such vision was killed by a train he didn’t see.
he had been homeless for a year, it was suicide :(
Roger Why did his parents kick him out?
In the video where he has an epic confrontation with his parents, his cia father becomes unhappy about being in videos and calls terry a skinhead.
Yes, I saw that, still: you can't kick your schizo son out.
@@knpstrr he got arrested for battery though, against his father IIRC
he was a true genius, sad his mental issues got in the way, he didn't deserve to go like that
it's worth discussing if his mental issues contributed to his genius or not. i feel that dealing with mental issues is actually a part of being a true genius like terry, might sound like a weird theory but i think there is something to it
I hope people eventually create a fork of TempleOS and continued developing it. It honestly could become something more than a meme.
This is garbage.
@conor5148 Yes it does, no it isn't, and yes it is.
@conor5148well it isn’t useful so….
@@spacedaniel492 well then your blind so...
better coder ever lived... point!
why do you have a pfp of war crimes?
Just in time...and ahead of time
Terry is better than everyone ngl.
Living with birds will drive you crazy
Do I understand correctly that the "MENU" is sort of IntelliSense suggestions throughout the entire OS?
imagine this being wordperfect and Terry living long enough to make it into office 360...
This will be the OS of post apocalyptic society
I miss Terry. He was brilliant. Are you on Bitchute?
He died
The incremental compilation of Holy C is crazy. Temple OS has a Holy C REPL out of the box.
Global pan, zoom, and drawing shapes in source is sooooo sick
Right in time for this year’s Olympics!
Is he still working on this operating system?
sometimes ... ruclips.net/channel/UCJZTn-fPu-uIA55UI47_cXg
yes
he is always looking for ways to shorten the code without removing any functionality
NEVER SUGGEST ADDING MORE FEATURES THEY ARE BLOAT AND WILL SLOW GODS HOLY TEMPLE
"Jesus killed the swine"
no. He passed away a few days ago. RIP Terry.
He sure is... he needed direct access to the source so he is working on it server side
i had to check the upload date and make sure this wasn't and April fools video.
this guy knows what he's talking about
Terry's bird was MKultra'd
The better I get at programming, the more I can appreciate this mans genius. Writing sprites directly to source files. KEK. Drawing a circle to screen with 1 line of code straight from the terminal. Why not? Anyone who has created a window on Windows knows what an absolute clusterfuck it is, let alone rendering graphics.
He doesn’t use a linker. NO LINKER. Why the fuck are we still using linkers?
This man could have revolutionized the computing world. Many at least are starting to wake up to the shitshow at least.
RIP Terry.
It is About as usefull as a car where you can change the camshaft before entering the highway.
@@demwz Here's a better analogy: it's as useful as a car made of transparent material where you can see right into the inner workings of the engine, transmission, electrical system, and change anything at will on the fly. In other words, extremely useful.
@@drygordspellweaver8761 boss; ""habe you got the logfiles?" "no, just writing an optimized ls for that. Will safe up to 10 cpu cycles"
@@demwz Try again...
It doesn't even take decades to write an OS and Kernel lol.
That can be done in a month or two for x86 architecture using VGA graphics and standard hardware inputs.
It is literally a part of some CS student courses.
That and writing your own programming language and compiler.
search for "Writing an OS in Rust - Philipp Oppermann's blog".
That gives a good beginners overview.
The only amazing thing here is Terry's ability to still code anything whilst being an unmedicated schizophrenic.
How much LSD did the CIA give you?
lotz
Nice dude, he's schizophrenic.
Clearly not enough.
Cybernik The Robot he might have gotten hit by mk ultra though would make a lot of sense for what happened to him
a trainload
The sound of his bargain bin keyboard. No fancy BS. Just the word of God.
Ok now this is just genius
All respect to Terry, what he's made is impressive, there's no way of denying that. But I struggle to see how TempleOS is better than any Unix based system at all? Linux is only a Kernel whilst TempleOS is an entire OS, there's that obviously, along with the 2mb against ~300mb size differences. TempleOS has some cool features, I do like the on-the-go C compiler in the command line, as well as the built-in sprites into HolyC, but that's the only thing that makes TempleOS even remotely interesting to me, compared to let's say Ubuntu, or Arch.
I will definitely try TempleOS out of pure curiosity whenever I can, but I do think that saying that TempleOS is better than Unix or Linux is a statement that cannot really hold any ground. TempleOS is missing so many features that Unix systems have. I'm not saying the other one is better, I'm just saying that they're incredibly different, almost to the point where saying either is better is a complete waste of words.
Again, all respect to Terry, he's done something very few people can - at least I cannot built my own OS as I lack the knowledge to do so. It's a shame that he passed away, would love to see where he'd take this in the future.
Unix has been designed 40 years ago. While hardware changed radically, we haven't seen real innovations in OS design. So any attempts to experiment with it are very interesting. And in software world we have too much of complexity in intermediate layers between software and hardware. Like Direct3D vs Vulkan. Or try to make your own PCIe-based device and access it with your software. There are plenty of situations where most of the UNIX'es features are unnecessary burden. For example, Linux includes all the device drivers in kernel, probably just to eliminate the performance penalty caused by context switching and memory copying. As a result we have a kernel that is 27 MILLIONS lines of code. It is disaster. Imagine developing a small project that has a dependency on 27 millions of lines of third-party code? And size matters, because size is complexity, complexity produces chaos, and chaos kills software. The less the better. The simpler the better.
I don't think TempleOS can really be compared to Unix and Linux either. What I do think is that TempleOS is undoubtedly simple and anti-legacy. Terry Davis seems heavily inspired by the hands-on programming of the Commodore 64. And since Terry Davis never cared about implementing old standards, he was free to tweak and develop his OS as he wished.
Bill Gates don't like TempleOS if it would have lift off, that could have happened if it were 90s.
@@mrkitty777templeOS would never have taken off as its simply too eye hurting for average joe
Nobody helped him 😟
this is really cool
He's comparing his OS to UNIX. Doesn't that means he's competing with Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie and not Linus. That's what he said in the opening that he's demonstrating how his OS is better than UNIX.
It's simple:
One was made by a king, the other was made by a gaylord.
😂 Torvalds hasn't even written the kernel alone he had to call his boyfriends
This is amazing
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Really??? How old are you?
HardCase1911 u mad you cant make your own OS from the ground up
@@HardCase1911 jealouse much?
Rip the bird
Fuck that is cool, a sprite directly in the code, holy shit that is awesome
is that a bird making that noise?
Temple OS is so great that barely anyone has heard of it.
Amazing.
I cant name a single mf today that hasnt heard of it.
@@honkhonk8009then you only know some autists😂😂😂
Thumbnail: "why tempos is better than Linux" First 10 seconds of video "why tempos is better than UNIX" ?????????
The title is accurate. The Linux kernel is a derivative of UNIX. >99% of people are more interested in Linux than Unix as a concept.
you don't get it people, unix is environment and linux is kernel. UNIX IS ENVIRONMENT
@John Smith don't twist my words. I just pointed out that linux is not OS. Unix is environment. GNU is environment derived from Unix. There's a collection between Unix and Linux - sure, and is derived from the previous. But it's like saying that plant is an apple. It's true but plant is a higher subset (Unix) while linux is smaller (Kernel)
Linux is windows
@@favor94 linux is Windows-based OS that originates from old android code
What would happen, if someone would use that as a codebase for a "modern" OS.
Entirely written in HolyC, graphics turned up to 4K, a smooth GUI (because THIS is awful), networking, Account management reintroduced, HolyKern moved to Ring0, but everything else in the right Rings, etc.
How much memory would it use, how fast would it be?
To deface the third holy temple of God would be a sin.
About 5.
I imagine it could been optimised to fight inside an GameCube hardware
it would be cool but usseless becouse of lack of software... tho maybe it is possible to make it compatible with linux but at that point why not just make a linux distro?
As a "mentally ill" person, I have to say that it's true some there's some shall we say software compatibility issues because not everyone is born with the optimal hardware. BUT....there are interesting software fixes for that.
You don't have to be a superhero, just find a way to adapt. My problem was never hearing voices, but I know some people that hear the right things so definitely a software issue. If it's all the brain, then it's probably a tumor or a lesion or something else.
I shall like to give you a map.
Upgrade "mental illness" into "enviro-mental-illness", and it shall be plain for all to see, that in our, presently very sick, environment(s), that "genius" simply cannot be tolerated. For if genius were tolerated, we could begin to heal our environment(s).
So those "at the top", simply delete that critical-prefix, "enviro", and delete the hyphen, thereby distancing the words in such a way that the relational-character between the 2 is lost.
Those "at the top" split verbally, that which cannot be separated empirically.
Un-sanity ensues...
For you, specifically. You do-not *have* a "mental illness". There is no such *thing* as a "mental illness". Stop labelling yourself as your slave-masters do.
I *have* a lighter in my pocket. I *have* milk in my belly.
Words-without-referents are dangerous, WHEN a person acts as-if a referent existing.
"Unicorn" has no referent, save man-made artifacts, e.g., heraldry, fiction, etc.
Your "mental illness", is-a "unicorn".
Dont listen to the idiot above me, mental illnes is definitely a thing, and nothing to be ashamed of
This man is a saint. #SaintDavis
If only people like this became so famous before they die
to be fair a lot of people were following him and his work before he passed (myself included)
I really like that vector graphics program he made. The 3D editor is pretty neat too although I haven't seen much of it and don't know much about it.
Problem is it's pretty pointless with it's terrible resolution and lack of all sorts of other features.
Just as God intended lol
Well, God said 640*480
you could change that resolution.... if you will
It requires zero gpu use? LOL kinda the point.
if only this todays big ones were seeded this way i wonder what they would be like.
This guy and his OS are quite amazing. However, I can't imagine anything being better than Unix design principles even if Linux is not Unix it was still made under Unix design principles.
Uh...
Why is it impossible to improve unix or linux?
@@nukiradio I'm not saying it's impossible to improve Unix/Linux. They are being improved everyday. I'm saying the core design principles are pretty hard to beat, which is why Unix and Unix like OSes have been around so long and not been replaced by something "better".
@@davidnjkilla No you are missing one dimension. The economy dictates the progression of technology. People don't want to move away from it because of the costs to use a system nobody else uses.
@@Guztav1337 True, but it also comes down to the fact that Unix systems are literally designed to run massive systems with simplistic management. I'm not saying that Unix is the absolute best solution that will ever come around, but it is one of the best solutions that is currently available.
@@avananana Terry's whole point is that philosophy is outdated thinking, it is the thinking behind IBM Mainframes from the 70s where 100 people had to share limited memory on one machine that absolutely could never be allowed to crash. Why would a modern user's smartphone or personal laptop need to be designed for the same way, like you said, like a 'massive system needing simplistic management'?
What happened to the bird? Is it still alive
Has anyone else found that terry's OS won't boot and run (at all)
from the iso image?
I tried to get it to boot, but NOPE.
i think you have to boot from a CD. Also he never invisioned templeOS to run on hardware so running it in a VM might also help
@@qwerte6948 yes, thank you.
I think you're right. Didn't want to waste a CD blank I didn't have and now look cheap... lol...
Reminds me of the philosophy behind Smalltalk.
red like what, terry?
Man rip him and the bird
is there a copy of this code somewhere
he has cockatiels...he is a true god
"Australia just got screwed" hahaha
Why?
Anyone used menuetos? Written in assembly, fits on floppy.
If you remove all blinky stuff and the crazy bilbe stuff this os is actually a pretty kick ass os
Shut up. This is complete garbage. You kids are all amazed by someone that knows 8086 assembler.
@@HardCase1911 *glow*
@@HardCase1911 i think some of them are good in understand how temple works
@@HardCase1911 shut up asshole no one likes you
@D.A. Botos Because that is just what it is. A pile of foul stenching garbage. His goal was the C64 in 64bit but he needed 2Mb to come not even close where the C64 only needed 16k for the complete system which included security and IO ports. I can even get on the internet with my trusty C64. Never underestimate the true power of the C64. My hopes are more to the 8-bit guy and his to be Commander X16. Now that is gonna be a real blast and a usable one as well. Think about it, a C64 on steroids with 2Mb of usable free ram (banked) instead of 38k and high-resolution.
I am sorry, but this is FU*KING BRILLIANT! What a legend this guy was. Mind blown.