I have to admit, I'm just "meeting" Terry through this, the second vid I've seen regarding his work. The first was a rant on Linus and the rest of the computing world. While it was apparent during his rant that he was faced with psychological issues, it was also apparent he was vastly intelligent. Additionally, and more importantly, I'm touched that everyone sees through it, and while recognising his challenges, also recognised his genius. We aren't as bad off as we thing we are. RIP Terry and thanks for everything.
Thank you for the review of Terry's OS . He evaluated things from his own unique prospective. when still in high school he was using a C 64 to do his calculus homework the teacher called him on it and he said but I wrote the program ...after explaining the program he was allowed to use it but still had to do 1 problem a day by hand . I tried to get him to write a game program to use a exercise bicycle interface I had made the faster you peddle the faster you man would go on the screen it was fun to out run the ghosts in packman and worked well with joust .. he looked at it and dismissed the idea " no one wants to exercise to computer games wouldn't even let me pay him to do it ... this was 1985 well before x box and Nintendo had any interactive games ( sigh.. what could have been ) The last picture you have of him on his left is what he called a shaper he made a 3D milling machine out of a dermal tool it worked well carving a bar of soap or balsa wood but wasn't smooth ( chatter from a flexible frame and a rotary file bit not a milling bit that he needed ) so he tossed it in a dumpster :( .. What he didn't realize was the mechanical problems were easily solvable ..the most amazing part of it was that he could give it a CAD drawing of a part and it would figure out the tool path so a self programming 3 D milling machine WOW !!! As a Millwright I can tell you that program was light years ahead of its time ... Terry Davis was my younger brother RIP Terry ... Kevin Davis
Gotta remember that Terry had enough genius to not only create an *entire OS* from scratch while battling the waking nightmares of schizophrenia, but also to quietly crank out one of the smoothest Catholicism/computer science crossover puns (Holy C / Holy See) in history. Rest easy, Terry.
holyc isn't even a thing lol, there is no language specification. The only thing that makes it a language on its own is the fact that it was implemented only once.
It's quite sad how unstoppable some mental conditions are. Even an extremely clever and creative person can't do anything but watch themselves fall down into madness. It's even worse when you yourself are aware of your deteriorating mental condition but you know there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it. No amount of willpower, hard working, intelligence or skill can save you from a hard-wired mental condition.
@@cetomedo You are 100% correct. I am diagnosed with shizophrenia, bi-polar, clinical depression, general anxiety, and PTSD. The shizophrenia has long been claiming my sanity. Fortunately my last episode has been a few years but to put it bluntly, I literally cried to my father and begged him to believe me that my brother was a psychic telepath using his powers against me, trying to kill me. I was so convinced I began monitoring and spying on my brother (not discretely either...) Needless to say my brother is does not feel safe sleeping under the same roof as me anymore. Our relationship is rough, and it's all my fault :/
Dude was very talented programmer but he wasted his potential because of his religious craze. TempleOS is a kind of creepy curiosity. Imagine what he could create if he focused to make an actual useful OS from scratch.
1.4MB. This guy was literally the most productive and propably smartest programmer ever A bootloader An operating system A compiler A language A window manager A 3D Graphics lib Flight sim Multiple CLIs Included games ALL THAT in 1.4MB
@@jackhanson3333 I would be honored if someone took my quote and spread it, but I just took and praised some of his achievements and listed them. Or maybe I took an already popular comment I didn't knew of and made my own twist around it. Either way it's not a joke.
@@jackhanson3333 ,what he did was absolutely impressive. imagine building a car but without the machinery and parts that already exist. you make your own machines to make the parts you make the parts using those machines designed his own engine block. and then also include little gimmicks. it may look like a shitty car but if it works it's a really big accomplishment. that's the best analogy I can come up with.
@Based Swiss Yeah basically subhumans like this poster is what I was referring to. Are you not allowed within however many feet of schools? Or just afraid they'll finally find that photo of you in D.C. without a mask to conceal your identity?
@@Shreendg If you consider that he was basically unemployable for years it's more feasible. Keep in mind Terry wasn't supporting himself or holding a job. Still pretty impressive on a technical level.
At this point, this is not a text file anymore... Does it mean all his text files are big, or does this mean there are big chunks of binary ? Was this the text encoding he was using for his code, or is it just like a proto html ? I can't find any pretty solution to do this. Jamming the formats in a file is never a good idea ( pasting base64 in html is ugly for example ). Most people will prefer using tar rather than concatenate all there files together with a custom separator for a reason... Features are great, but you know what is greater ? Standards. If everyone made his own os, there would be no internet.
@@CyrilNeko It is not a chunk of binary The 3D meshes are coordinates coded in text. Along with textures which are also coded in text. Just like the old days where picture formats are not a thing. You have to specify exactly what to draw and what color.
This was a surprisingly respectful look at TempleOS and Terry Davis’ work. Many people would just make jokes and point out the shortcomings but I appreciate that y’all didn’t do that. It’s very unfortunate that Terry suffered the way he did. It would have been amazing to see what more he could have done if he had the help he really needed.
Blake Helms be sure to check out Down the Rabbit Hole’s TempleOS doc. Goes into Terry’s history in an honest yet respectful way. It is really hard to watch given the subject matter but worth the 2 hour run time.
@@ZergrushEddie Thanks for mentioning that video! I saw it a little while back and I agree, it does a great job delving into Terry's history. It just reiterates the need for us to take mental health conditions seriously and setup a system to get those who need it help.
Schizophrenia is one of the least understood conditions. A former neighbor of mine was institutionalized because his alternate committed armed robbery. I did not know he was schizophrenic until his mother and girlfriend came to clean out his apartment. And a more recent friend of mine has type of schizophrenia that it not too dissimilar from bipolar disorder but an okay personality and another that he himself is afraid of rather than the giant changes in mood.
I met Terry on a bus once while I was on my way to computer science class. He asked me if I was a federal agent, completely convinced. I had no idea who he was or what that interaction meant until much later. Truly haunting to think back on it.
Terry is such a tragic character. There's a video where he yells some crazy shit at his parents and then snaps out of it for a while and goes "Forgive me, I have to try and figure out why I remember... that I love you." and it's heartbreaking. Schizophrenia is brutal. I just hope he found some solace in what he created.
Look up "TempleOS | Down the Rabbit Hole" by youtuber Fredrik Knudsen. Its an hour and a half, but goes into so much detail about the tragic life of Terry Davis and the making of Temple OS
I have schizophrenia and I am super lucky that the drugs are extremely effective on me. As long as I keep taking them I can pretty much function normally. I still sometimes get mild paranoid delusions, but they're like "Oh shit, I think the government is spying on me! No, wait, that's just the paranoia again" and they're mild enough that I believe it.
Not only this man has written his own language, kernel and a compiler, he managed to introduce 3D shapes, pictures and sound files into ASCII format. That is beyond insane. He definitely deserves the title of "the smartest programmer who ever lived"
".. he managed to introduce 3D shapes, pictures and sound files into ASCII format" Ever heard of SVG or VRML ? Nothing hard, let alone insane about it, it is actually much simpler than having proper binary formats.
@@AG-ig8uf Lmao, I love it. Every year people put out new claims and really pulling everything out of your arses to belittle his accomplishments. Yes we've heard of SVG and VRML, no they are not the same as what terry managed.
@@AG-ig8uf Those are vector-based. His doldoc files can also handle bitmaps, so yeah it basically does support a binary format. The OS also has a built-in vector-based sprite editor (which can convert to bitmap) and a freaking 3D modeling program, both of which you can insert into a text file. Sit down.
I remember reaching out to Terry just to see if he was OK, he seemed a bit scrambled at the time, and he was actually a genuinely nice person. Granted I have a bit of experience with schizophrenia after my best friend in highschool got it pretty seriously, so I have a high tolerance for psychosis, but he meant well. He was a genius trapped in a world of delusion and bad choices. The OS was nutty, but it was packed with interesting ideas and the poor guy actually deserved a bit of respect, not for making a functional OS, the thing was barely functional, but for actually trying out some genuinely interesting ideas. The beauty of science is, the experiment doesnt have to work to learn something from it, so its one of the great ironies of science that this schizophrenic religious dude was doing more science than most PhD weilding computer science departments will do in a lifetime. But oh man was he suffering. Schizophrenia can make life a living hell.
I feel like he would've done a LOT for the tech world if he'd been in the right frame of mind. He really was a brilliant man with exceptional skills, just living in a cloudy, cold, and dark world. RIP Terry.
@@stgigamovement that's pretty impressive, man. i'm 19 and nowhere near that. shit, i'm going for computer networking, and i still only know surface level knowledge in that field.
You might think that this is total garbage, but any programmer worth his salt can tell that terry was an absolute genius. Designing a system like this is not easy. Yes it's imperfect, but for a single person to design something this unique from scratch is just incredible in my opinion.
I keep coming back and thinking about that command line that they went through where you can click on the links and just keep going through there. The way that both graphical and textual things are incorporated is just outstanding.
Not sure about any programmer, you kinda have to be familiar with operating systems, systems programming, compilers, and maybe even the systems of old to really appreciate this for what it is and find your way around (+not have Terry's commentary feel like meaningless word salads). It's a very very different skillset / tech stack compared to what the vast majority of modern software development is based around (web stuff).
Not only am I happy you made a video about this, but I'm VERY happy you also managed to stay respectful and understanding of Terry's problems, see past it, and recognize that Terry was a very intelligent person. It's a shame what happened to him.
Seeing what happened to Terry still brings a tear to my eye. It's a shame that he couldn't get help before it was too late. He had such talent, as evidenced by TempleOS. How many people do you know are capable of writing any software that runs on bare metal x86, much less writing a compiler of their own, and then an entire operating system all my themselves? Those games weren't exactly triple A titles, but they ran well, didn't crash, and were written in a variant of C, all by one person. Imagine how much Terry could have accomplished if he had gotten the help he needed.
@@BsicalyLucifer I think it's a matter of with his genius, his madness separately manifested in his lack of care for social acceptability, especially nowadays where its pretty dangerous to say that sort of thing. I think guy above was just pointing out that terry was crazy, using the hard r usage as a singular symptom out of the many terry had. Never said he was at fault for being crazy, just that he was crazy, which I believe is pretty fair. I dont think there was disrespect meant there
@@Dr_Hax Id suggest taking a deep dive into schizophrenia. It is such q diverse disease that can effect many parts of a person, as well as make a person believe things that they wouldnt otherwise believe. Such as things like racial superiority. Thats not to say that all people who believe in racial superiority are schizophrenics, but i wouldnt doubt that many of his beliefs were influenced by his schizophrenia.
Wow TempleOS, havent see anything about this in years..... The most amazing thing which was skipped over is the fact the OS is 64-bit and with everything included its less than 2MB in size which is crazy. Very efficient way of creating the graphics and games. Despite his mental condition, the guy was a freaking genius.
@@NaudVanDalen Because everything is built on so many API layers and other BS, its all been piled on top of the last gen ever since windows 3.1 at this point ... Linux is much more efficient but the rot is starting to set in even there, though at least people on that side give a damn and are actively working to stop it ...
@@JulianLopez-nd9ts making money by creating content & (+including stupid ads) of a dead person's life achievement that his low-iq-brain is not even nearly grasping what he's witnessing but laughing it off in his ignorance. he'd been disgusted
Being reminded of what was lost with Terry's illness never ceases to make my heart ache. He had the brilliance of a natural born tinkerer and the drive of a man haunted by phantoms. The breadth and depth of his creation is truly hard to fathom. TempleOS is a unique product of a person who was desperately clinging to the only thing that still made sense to him.
Terry Davis was actually a genius, he made this entire thing from complete scratch, no Linux or anything. His own programming language, compiler, 3D renderer and everything. He was a fan of effecient code, this entire os fits in just a few megabytes.
Well, schizophrenia is a state of reduced mental filtering, so schizophrenics tend to be creative, complex, out-of-the-box thinkers, hence the 'fine line between genius and insanity' trope..
I know this is out there, but most artists and masters of a craft are usually not in a perfect state of mind, I mean today we are kind and call it eccentric behavior, but the aberrant psychological state is not normal of people on a higher level, and usually degrade quite fast.
The fact he did **ALL OF THAT** on his own is just... Mind blowing, I've always wondered where he'd be nowadays if he'd accepted psychological help. We can only dream
Terry is a tragic case, if he didn't suffer from Schizophrenia, I have little doubt his name would be among the top tech giants we know today. Man was a phenomenal programmer.
I don't think he would have been as great a programmer without having schizophrenia. Schizophrenia lead him to be socially isolated, and being socially isolated caused him to create Templeos. if he had been a normie he would have been too busy doing normie crap instead of building an os
@@mirandaladlad9429 I don't think that's true. His brain/mental was DESTROYED by his mental illness. I believe he would've been exponentially more intelligent if he wasn't getting worn down by his illness.
I don't think you can separate Terry Davis from his schizophrenia. That's who he was. Terry Davis without schizophrenia wouldn't be Terry davis. He would be someone else if terry davis had been some non-schizophrenic normal person he would have been an entirely different person
@@matthewtenerelli3243 Most of the symptoms of schizophrenia didn't necessarily make him any "dumber" (you can look them up), they just slowed him down a lot. If he didn't have schizophrenia, but still wanted to build TempleOS, he could have maybe added a lot more essential features and have an almost-complete product.
I was so surprised to see this on my feed. Terry Davis was my Uncle and I'm so happy to see his work being showcased on your channel! Your video also helped me figure out so much more about TempleOS that I didn't even know! Thank you guys so much for showing it on your channel! I sent all my family this video and they are so happy that his work is being shown.
@@MadsMadsen837 if its not, what's the harm beyond what their aware of for them claiming as such. If they are, your kind of making an ass of yourself and putting a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Though you maybe anonymous through the internet, I just want you to think about that. It is easy to be cynical, but its more important to be hopeful is it not? Have a nice day regardless tho and i do mean that.
@Mads Madsen You are welcome to believe what you want. I don't really care, this post wasn't for you. I posted this in hopes that they would see it so I could thank them for showcasing TempleOS on behalf of my family.
I am not the best programmer, but i know that creating an entire OS (and Kernel), compiler, Window-manager, file manager, etc from scratch alone takes an absolute genius I have mad respect for this man
Let alone the sprite editor, 3D modeling program, 2D and 3D graphics libraries, and however many games, ALL in his own C-dialect programming language. It's simply astounding.
I think it's pretty amazing how much Anthony has grown on camera. I remember when he was on the first time, he was like this nervous big nerd guy who clearly knew a lot, but barely managed to get anything out, but now he's casually just explaining stuff. Really nice to see.
Dude this needs to be top comment. That single one-liner sums up this entire video. I suffer from Bipolar Disorder but I'm ridiculously talented at anything I do. I strive for perfection but I know that perfect is something nobody but Gods can be. Never perfect but always perfecting. Meanwhile my mental health is basically non-existent. Mental illness fucking sucks, man.
I think Terry Davis made Temple OS 640x480 at 16 colours because every graphics card supports VGA. He would have had to remake drivers for every card if he made it higher than that.
"...when my bird was looking at my computer monitor, I thought 'woah, that bird has no idea what he's looking at'. And yet, what does the bird do, does he panic? No, he can't really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he's so ignorant? Well, he doesn't really have a choice. Yeah, he can kinda live...usually the bird's okay, even though he doesn't understand the world, and he can kinda learn what's safe and what's dangerous. So uh, that's where I've been living." -Terry A. Davis
@Pickleman he truly was a genius. Every time i hear this ruclips.net/video/oY33uoBSw3w/видео.html i feel like crying because i remember all the amazing things terry did. We truly have lost a genius
This brings a tear to my eye. Terry's demons haunted him. This was one of those moments of absolute clarity, where he was aware of how much he had lost and what was happening and knowing there was nothing he could do but live on. May God be merciful on his soul.
...nah. sorry but thats just babble imo. of course its sad that he felt he was living in a world he could never understand, but theres nothing truly insightful in that statement, not about the human condition and definitely not about birds. its literally r/Im14andthisisdeep fodder.
14:53 For those who aren't into coding; Terry's Holy C runs faster than regular C (which is saying a LOT) so coding under this environment is actually more efficient than coding under any other environment (C related)
there is the caveat of everything running in ring zero though. which, while very fast, is also way too dangerous to be done in an actual production system.
How so? Most C "speed" comes from compiler optimizations. In fact GCC will turn most naive microbenchmarks you'd run on a C-64 into a no-op which it can execute in literally zero time, because they don't execute, because they aren't there, because the compiler saw the bullshit you were pulling. GCC will turn a recursive call into a loop, unroll it, inline it, propagate constants, eliminate dead code, eliminate the test for the branch to dead code, and do a whole mess of other things so that what is 50 instructions in -O0 is 6 instructions in -O3. And then finally this function is small enough to inline somewhere else, and so it never even gets called, it just works 15 times faster than it rightly should.
TempleOS is the Computer Science equivalent of the obscure music album created by a troubled genius that is equal parts incredible/flawed/frustrating/fascinating all at the same time
Im trying to understand how nuts. They say a man building a skyscraper bare handed.. but would it be like a temple? Is there a few more articulations? Maybe?
@@sparrowbreedit’s like building your own car from scratch (your own engine, wheels everything)… and to top it off saying you won’t use anything round because you have religious beliefs about circles and prefer squares
"You wanna place yourself in a position to give maximum glory to your Creator. So you go out there, and you be somebody glorious, okay?" -Terry A. Davis
Terry Davis is a once in a lifetime genius. There are only a handful of people, living or dead, that could rival his talents. It's a shame what we lost with his illness and passing.
13:30 According to vague memory and specific googling, Mt Sinai was where Moses saw the burning bush, and Mt Horeb was where he got the Commandments. And apparently they *may* have actually been the same mountain.
Anthony is what happens when you've mastered all of the old and new elements and become the fully realized tech avatar lol He is perfectly humble and masterful all while shedding light on the masses. He has such a fundamental and nonjudgmental way of instructing and correcting mistakes or misinformation. Gd it I love this dude. He is the minority of nerds who actually have their ego in check while clearly being more knowledgeable than pretty much everyone, if not absolutely everyone, on the team. His chill attribute is wayyy over 9000. I can't imagine the knowledge that he has that can't be fit into the brevity of these videos. Can we get an instructional vid series from him?
Couldn't have said it better! Anthony seems to be just oozing with competence in every video he's in. When I first saw him (testing fake SD cards video) I thought he was some specialist they hired to come help test the sd cards. But nope, he's just an extremely competent and calm member of the crew.
Six eight (6/8) is a time signature meaning it tells you how the music is played. 6/8 specifically means six beats per measure, eighth notes get the beat
@@Catafracta230588 His shizophrenia made him that way, don't blame it on the guy himself. Blame the medical system that prevented him from getting the treatment he needed.
@@RAHelllord I totally get it, yet I'm not sure if being schizofrenic could be a justification for such attitude. But still, I wouldn't judge him just based on that. I think he was, after all, a genius and, sadly, a victim of negligence.
appreciate ya'll covering Terry Davis. He was an imperfect person, but his body of work cannot be denied. It's definitely a piece of outsider art. RIP Terry.
On the Mt. Horeb subject: the wiki states that there are mentions of both names (Sinai & Horeb) referring to the same place in historical texts, but one interesting thing to note is that there is a Mount Horeb, Wisconsin, which is a little west of where Terry was born in West Allis, Wisconsin
really much talented.....while he wrote everything on his own and if im not wrong the OS is the most "complex and hard" written software.... his kernel boots up in under a second or somthing like that.... that is really dope.....just saw that documentation fopr a couple of days and read some stuff about him and his os
he also wrote other softwares like Sim Structure. Its something like Matlab. remember he wrote it himself...you can find it on the net for free google "Sim Structure Terry Davis"
He wrote his own compiler to compile his own holyC programming language into machine code and then proceeded to write everything he ever used from scratch all by himself. It's as much genius as the end product was madness.
Good that they wont get flagged or something but its super implied when they said he was diagnosed with schyzophrenia. There is no mentally sane or sound schyzophrenic person on earth, they are all nuts.
@@laharl2k not true. Some cultures around the world have been shown to embrace people with schizophrenia, make it a liveable condition, and even cure it in some cases
@@GiffysChannel while there was a lot of that, there were many people who ended up caring about him a lot and basically funding him so he wouldn't starve on the street
I knew Terry's story, but I never realized how impressive this OS was. Thank you guys for showing off this software and actually giving the service it deserved
6:13 "The Holy Spirit Menu which you can access after you open up the God Doodle application" That's a sentence I wasn't expecting to hear today. Or ever.
@@BenderdickCumbersnatch Well if you do everything in ring zero that simplifies some things but also means you can't connect to internet and not expext to be exploited.
the really impressive thing is that he built TempleOS AFTER being diagnosed with schizophrenia. Which means he not only built this operating system and all its games, but he did it will also battling his disease. Honestly one of the most talented programmers of all time
I am blown away! What a shame the world lost this talent. Anthony clearly did a lot of research into this. It would be great to see a vid on his experience and thoughts of this OS and everything involved. I'm off to watch "Down the rabbit hole"
I can completely get behind that 14th commandment! schizophrenia is terrifying, my late uncle was hospitalized for it for many years and when he took his meds he was amazing but every few months he would decide to stop without telling anyone and within a few days you would be able to tell very easily. He lived across the street from me at the end of a dead end street next to a thick woods. When he was off his meds he would see what he reffered to as "Werewolves" and he would stand at the edge of the tree line to the woods and scream at teh creatures he was seeing. A year before he passed my cousin (his oldest daughter) lost her 1.5 year old baby to SIDS and he basically spiraled out of control, stop meds completely, was hospitalized but refused to eat or drink and sadly his heart gave out in 2019. It's such a scary illness.
Not only that, but Temple OS has its own file system, called "RedSea". And the command for partitioning is called "part". So you can literally "part the RedSea"... (I'm not even making that up!)
It absolutely was a bit of wordplay on Terry's part, although probably one made in reverence instead of irreverence, so not a "joke" per se. Just because he was insane doesn't mean he was completely unaware of the world outside his malfunctioning brain.
@@Milamberinx i assume they think you're a trans woman, because of the "programmer trans girl" stereotype and judging by the pepe pfp, i assume they're an edgy rightoid so... yeah
His command line was C-ish, and Music Macro Language was a feature of a number of BASIC variants, so not that unreasonable of an idea, especially when you consider things like ANSI escape codes and all of the control codes available in standard ASCII. I think that some of the Linux terminals are probably capable of a part of this feature set... _Part_ of it.
@@absalomdraconis I'm not sure how it is done here, but back in the day I used to generate pseudo bitmaps with custom character sets generated on the fly. Pain in the butt, and kind of pointless, but fun to see what you could push in text mode
"...when my bird was looking at my computer monitor, I thought 'woah, that bird has no idea what he's looking at'. And yet, what does the bird do, does he panic? No, he can't really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he's so ignorant? Well, he doesn't really have a choice. Yeah, he can kinda live...usually the bird's okay, even though he doesn't understand the world, and he can kinda learn what's safe and what's dangerous. So uh, that's where I've been living." -Terry A. Davis, the man responsible for Temple OS.
Linus: This interface is so cluttered
Linus in 2 weeks: "10 ways TempleOS is just better"
Lmao bruh 😂😂
Do it Linus
1. Most realistic elephants ever made
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"TempleOS has entered the chat"
Condemns all other operating systems
Ok Rita, are you 20 or 25?
I smell something fishy 'round here...
Can we take a moment to appreciate how Terry -- at the height of his schizophrenia -- still documented his code better than ~99% of developers?
He even described his mental state pretty objectively in his videos
Well, you need to let your other selves know how stuff works, right?
I have to admit, I'm just "meeting" Terry through this, the second vid I've seen regarding his work. The first was a rant on Linus and the rest of the computing world. While it was apparent during his rant that he was faced with psychological issues, it was also apparent he was vastly intelligent. Additionally, and more importantly, I'm touched that everyone sees through it, and while recognising his challenges, also recognised his genius. We aren't as bad off as we thing we are. RIP Terry and thanks for everything.
Terry did not program Temple OS. It is a product of divine intelligence.
They said Sarah Conner had schizophrenia. They're not doubting her now that the robots have invaded.
Thank you for the review of Terry's OS . He evaluated things from his own unique prospective. when still in high school he was using a C 64 to do his calculus homework the teacher called him on it and he said but I wrote the program ...after explaining the program he was allowed to use it but still had to do 1 problem a day by hand . I tried to get him to write a game program to use a exercise bicycle interface I had made the faster you peddle the faster you man would go on the screen it was fun to out run the ghosts in packman and worked well with joust .. he looked at it and dismissed the idea " no one wants to exercise to computer games wouldn't even let me pay him to do it ... this was 1985 well before x box and Nintendo had any interactive games ( sigh.. what could have been ) The last picture you have of him on his left is what he called a shaper he made a 3D milling machine out of a dermal tool it worked well carving a bar of soap or balsa wood but wasn't smooth ( chatter from a flexible frame and a rotary file bit not a milling bit that he needed ) so he tossed it in a dumpster :( .. What he didn't realize was the mechanical problems were easily solvable ..the most amazing part of it was that he could give it a CAD drawing of a part and it would figure out the tool path so a self programming 3 D milling machine WOW !!! As a Millwright I can tell you that program was light years ahead of its time ... Terry Davis was my younger brother RIP Terry ... Kevin Davis
Oh wow. Your brother was a true visionary. A shame schizophrenia got to him. He was a brilliant mind with some truly brilliant ideas.
his death kinda broke me
Sorry for your loss. Thank you for these stories. Your brother was truly ahead of times in many ways...
I'm moved by Terry's story and his life. Feeling deeply sorry for your loss. I hope you get to share more stories and memories of Terry. Thank you.
He was a brilliant guy, truly. Negative mental health can be a horribly powerful thing. Thank you for sharing your story Kevin!!
Gotta remember that Terry had enough genius to not only create an *entire OS* from scratch while battling the waking nightmares of schizophrenia, but also to quietly crank out one of the smoothest Catholicism/computer science crossover puns (Holy C / Holy See) in history. Rest easy, Terry.
I never saw that pun. Dang man. Thanks.
Oh I thought it was Holy C for Holy Christ lol
@@chonchjohnch haha! Incredible.
I(just) found out about him today... Don't forget the protoprototype for a 3d printer... pic at the end..
This to me is one of the most poignant things about him. Often you can see wit and flashes of self-awareness poking through the mental illness.
Is not C. Is not C++... it is C†
Greatest programmer who ever lived.
Weareallbeingwatched HOLYC!
holyc isn't even a thing lol, there is no language specification. The only thing that makes it a language on its own is the fact that it was implemented only once.
JebacTych Policjantow terry a devis invented it
@@Spectre1122 that's not what i mean. His shit is also not that special, IIRC it's just c with some quirky function pointer syntax trick.
@@alalala132whyisthishandletaken he wrote a compiler for it and then used it to build an operating system. That's no small task
Actually big respect for covering this without making fun of Terry and his mental state. Very professional
God bless them
It's quite sad how unstoppable some mental conditions are. Even an extremely clever and creative person can't do anything but watch themselves fall down into madness. It's even worse when you yourself are aware of your deteriorating mental condition but you know there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it. No amount of willpower, hard working, intelligence or skill can save you from a hard-wired mental condition.
@filleswe91 I assumed that Çeto was talking about Terry, not himself.
@@cetomedo You are 100% correct. I am diagnosed with shizophrenia, bi-polar, clinical depression, general anxiety, and PTSD. The shizophrenia has long been claiming my sanity. Fortunately my last episode has been a few years but to put it bluntly, I literally cried to my father and begged him to believe me that my brother was a psychic telepath using his powers against me, trying to kill me. I was so convinced I began monitoring and spying on my brother (not discretely either...) Needless to say my brother is does not feel safe sleeping under the same roof as me anymore. Our relationship is rough, and it's all my fault :/
Dude was very talented programmer but he wasted his potential because of his religious craze. TempleOS is a kind of creepy curiosity. Imagine what he could create if he focused to make an actual useful OS from scratch.
1.4MB. This guy was literally the most productive and propably smartest programmer ever
A bootloader
An operating system
A compiler
A language
A window manager
A 3D Graphics lib
Flight sim
Multiple CLIs
Included games
ALL THAT in 1.4MB
I can’t tell if this is a joke I’ve just gone down this rabbit hole and I see this quote alot
@@jackhanson3333 I would be honored if someone took my quote and spread it, but I just took and praised some of his achievements and listed them.
Or maybe I took an already popular comment I didn't knew of and made my own twist around it.
Either way it's not a joke.
And unlike the CIA, he never ran into problems with drivers.
@@photonfield underrated af
@@jackhanson3333 ,what he did was absolutely impressive.
imagine building a car but without the machinery and parts that already exist.
you make your own machines to make the parts
you make the parts using those machines
designed his own engine block.
and then also include little gimmicks.
it may look like a shitty car but if it works it's a really big accomplishment.
that's the best analogy I can come up with.
Being a senior programmer, I know full well how surreal this guy's work is... It's like building a skyscrapper by yourself, barehanded.
More like building all the machinary to building the skyscraper and then building the skyscraper.
"being an absolute narcissist"
i fixed that part for you
@@RapidVidsProductions I am a narcissist for being a senior developer? what kind of logic is that.
@Based Swiss Yeah basically subhumans like this poster is what I was referring to. Are you not allowed within however many feet of schools? Or just afraid they'll finally find that photo of you in D.C. without a mask to conceal your identity?
@@Shreendg If you consider that he was basically unemployable for years it's more feasible. Keep in mind Terry wasn't supporting himself or holding a job. Still pretty impressive on a technical level.
I don't think Linus quite understood how amazing it was that Terry figured out a way to encode 3D rendered graphics in a text file lol
You never use base64? UUencode? hehe
@@nickwallette6201 based 64
@@yeagmatic Huh?
At this point, this is not a text file anymore...
Does it mean all his text files are big, or does this mean there are big chunks of binary ? Was this the text encoding he was using for his code, or is it just like a proto html ?
I can't find any pretty solution to do this. Jamming the formats in a file is never a good idea ( pasting base64 in html is ugly for example ). Most people will prefer using tar rather than concatenate all there files together with a custom separator for a reason...
Features are great, but you know what is greater ? Standards.
If everyone made his own os, there would be no internet.
@@CyrilNeko It is not a chunk of binary
The 3D meshes are coordinates coded in text. Along with textures which are also coded in text. Just like the old days where picture formats are not a thing. You have to specify exactly what to draw and what color.
This is seriously the last OS I expected Linus to make a video on
Same. I thought he’d avoid stuff like TempleOS like it was infected with the Coronavirus.
It seems to have had a resurgence.
@@ChrisMontgomery-xtrmagamr That's interesting. Is there a reason for that?
Christopher Nugent no just because Linus has no clue how it works.
@@bluebandit5586 He knows how to change directory at least.
This was a surprisingly respectful look at TempleOS and Terry Davis’ work. Many people would just make jokes and point out the shortcomings but I appreciate that y’all didn’t do that. It’s very unfortunate that Terry suffered the way he did. It would have been amazing to see what more he could have done if he had the help he really needed.
Blake Helms be sure to check out Down the Rabbit Hole’s TempleOS doc. Goes into Terry’s history in an honest yet respectful way. It is really hard to watch given the subject matter but worth the 2 hour run time.
@@ZergrushEddie Thanks for mentioning that video! I saw it a little while back and I agree, it does a great job delving into Terry's history. It just reiterates the need for us to take mental health conditions seriously and setup a system to get those who need it help.
Meanwhile the top comment doesn't realize LTT needs to keep afloat somehow
mental illness is a terrible suffering that only the ones suffering will understand.
Schizophrenia is one of the least understood conditions. A former neighbor of mine was institutionalized because his alternate committed armed robbery. I did not know he was schizophrenic until his mother and girlfriend came to clean out his apartment. And a more recent friend of mine has type of schizophrenia that it not too dissimilar from bipolar disorder but an okay personality and another that he himself is afraid of rather than the giant changes in mood.
I met Terry on a bus once while I was on my way to computer science class. He asked me if I was a federal agent, completely convinced. I had no idea who he was or what that interaction meant until much later. Truly haunting to think back on it.
Well, were you a fed?
So it looks like, based on your Profile Pic, that you became a Chad as soon as you met him.
/s
@@pranaav2027 yeah I'm a TempleOS user, how'd you know?
And then everybody clapped
@@TimeTravelingFetus i like your taste in music
The debugger is named Adam. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The whole thing is mind blowing. RIP Terry
the init is called adam actually because it's the father of all processes.
Quite interesting
ironically, the children of Adam will make this world free of all the bugs spawned by Cain
Wait, are we talking about the same Adam here? The one who didn't read the "Apple EULA" ? ;)
Terry himself said the design of the os was directly from god. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia and i think thats the reason he said it?
"A idiot admires complexity. But a genius admires simplicity" -Terry A Davis
I mean, hes not wrong
Correct.
If you think about it. Windows is made to look simple but it's actually complex while his TempleOS looks complex but is actually simple!
Linus: "I'm a complex kind of guy."
@@AdamFidler1 good catch
Terry is such a tragic character. There's a video where he yells some crazy shit at his parents and then snaps out of it for a while and goes "Forgive me, I have to try and figure out why I remember... that I love you." and it's heartbreaking. Schizophrenia is brutal. I just hope he found some solace in what he created.
Where?
Link?
Look up "TempleOS | Down the Rabbit Hole" by youtuber Fredrik Knudsen. Its an hour and a half, but goes into so much detail about the tragic life of Terry Davis and the making of Temple OS
Not every schizophrenic is like that, not to mention that there are meds which work pretty well on some of the symptoms.
I have schizophrenia and I am super lucky that the drugs are extremely effective on me. As long as I keep taking them I can pretty much function normally. I still sometimes get mild paranoid delusions, but they're like "Oh shit, I think the government is spying on me! No, wait, that's just the paranoia again" and they're mild enough that I believe it.
Not only this man has written his own language, kernel and a compiler, he managed to introduce 3D shapes, pictures and sound files into ASCII format. That is beyond insane. He definitely deserves the title of "the smartest programmer who ever lived"
".. he managed to introduce 3D shapes, pictures and sound files into ASCII format" Ever heard of SVG or VRML ? Nothing hard, let alone insane about it, it is actually much simpler than having proper binary formats.
I agree about the smartest programmer. But about the 3d and all intext, its pretty usual i think.
The whole thing is also less than a megabyte and a half. Unbelievable.
@@AG-ig8uf Lmao, I love it. Every year people put out new claims and really pulling everything out of your arses to belittle his accomplishments. Yes we've heard of SVG and VRML, no they are not the same as what terry managed.
@@AG-ig8uf Those are vector-based. His doldoc files can also handle bitmaps, so yeah it basically does support a binary format. The OS also has a built-in vector-based sprite editor (which can convert to bitmap) and a freaking 3D modeling program, both of which you can insert into a text file. Sit down.
RIP TERRY
INDEED. RIP TERRY.
@Jake the Astronaut florescent joggers were behind that train.
Love ur vids bro
THE CIA SILENT HIM
RIP king Terry, you will not be forgotten.
Man I can't believe LTT is looking at TempleOS, it's like the universe is aligning. Rip Terry, I'm glad your legacy lives on.
One of my students knew Terry personally. She said he was pretty cool dude.
I actually said "what the fuck" and interrupted watching a docu style video about "truck nuts" to watch this video.
i always did have a soft spot for lunatics.
@@colemickens hold up, there's a documentary on truck nuts? And you didn't drop the link?
@@colemickens Donut Media, right?
"the pope probably doesn't know what a compiler is"
- Terry A. Davis
I love that quote. And the one about the Pope saying he has a holy kernel...
@@abdulwahabjag just don't port gcc
ruclips.net/video/B5YokNW7tIs/видео.html
Karudo “God wants 10%”
@@abdulwahabjag you can't even write your own compiler?
Got a link to this quote? Would appreciate it if you did
I remember reaching out to Terry just to see if he was OK, he seemed a bit scrambled at the time, and he was actually a genuinely nice person. Granted I have a bit of experience with schizophrenia after my best friend in highschool got it pretty seriously, so I have a high tolerance for psychosis, but he meant well. He was a genius trapped in a world of delusion and bad choices. The OS was nutty, but it was packed with interesting ideas and the poor guy actually deserved a bit of respect, not for making a functional OS, the thing was barely functional, but for actually trying out some genuinely interesting ideas. The beauty of science is, the experiment doesnt have to work to learn something from it, so its one of the great ironies of science that this schizophrenic religious dude was doing more science than most PhD weilding computer science departments will do in a lifetime. But oh man was he suffering. Schizophrenia can make life a living hell.
The problem with terry is he was a self admitted pedophile
I feel like he would've done a LOT for the tech world if he'd been in the right frame of mind. He really was a brilliant man with exceptional skills, just living in a cloudy, cold, and dark world. RIP Terry.
WHAT.... the os is completely functional, its intention was for making programs , and it is way better at it than linux . the speed is insane
I am schizophrenic (among other mental health issues) and I wrote the BWTC32Key file compression program at 17 after 4 years of effort.
@@stgigamovement that's pretty impressive, man. i'm 19 and nowhere near that. shit, i'm going for computer networking, and i still only know surface level knowledge in that field.
You might think that this is total garbage, but any programmer worth his salt can tell that terry was an absolute genius. Designing a system like this is not easy. Yes it's imperfect, but for a single person to design something this unique from scratch is just incredible in my opinion.
I am a really really beginner programmer, and I cant even describe how impressive and respect commanding this is. Terry A. Davis was a true genius.
I keep coming back and thinking about that command line that they went through where you can click on the links and just keep going through there. The way that both graphical and textual things are incorporated is just outstanding.
Not sure about any programmer, you kinda have to be familiar with operating systems, systems programming, compilers, and maybe even the systems of old to really appreciate this for what it is and find your way around (+not have Terry's commentary feel like meaningless word salads). It's a very very different skillset / tech stack compared to what the vast majority of modern software development is based around (web stuff).
I'm working at an operating system from scratch and i can't even do the basics like program loading from disks
This is nothing short of a piece of art. I can't believe the guy made all of this by himself.
Not only am I happy you made a video about this, but I'm VERY happy you also managed to stay respectful and understanding of Terry's problems, see past it, and recognize that Terry was a very intelligent person.
It's a shame what happened to him.
Indeed, rest in peace king Terry
Yeah I was very surprised when I saw the release notification, but they did it justice. May Terry rest in peace
Shut up man, you're a videogamer hacker.
@@Enzic ruclips.net/video/Uh30FvS2Dfs/видео.html
Seeing what happened to Terry still brings a tear to my eye. It's a shame that he couldn't get help before it was too late. He had such talent, as evidenced by TempleOS. How many people do you know are capable of writing any software that runs on bare metal x86, much less writing a compiler of their own, and then an entire operating system all my themselves? Those games weren't exactly triple A titles, but they ran well, didn't crash, and were written in a variant of C, all by one person. Imagine how much Terry could have accomplished if he had gotten the help he needed.
"The CIA might glow but Terry shines." RIP Terry.
Basado
Based and Glowpilled
Terry shines in the same sense that Danny Torrance shines
Daily reminder that Terry Davis was a modern day prophet
F
Imagine a world devastated by war and the only computer that survives is a toughbook with TempleOS.
Interestingly TempleOS would probably still work, since basically every other operating system is dependent on the existence of a network.
Yes it'll.
If you want to use computer for long period even after "apocalypse" you just need a power generator and a custom handmade OS.
if its turing complete it doesnt matter
TempleOS and probably a lotta DOS os' would survive
hope someone with severely craziness and smart find it
Temple OS is such a sad story. Poor guy went insane, but that dude was a genius.
He started calling everyone the n word with hard r lmfao crazy guy but smart
SAU_OF_LKWD his mental health was shit he had schizophrenia and was going insane
and all you’re concerned about is him saying the nword?
@@BsicalyLucifer I think it's a matter of with his genius, his madness separately manifested in his lack of care for social acceptability, especially nowadays where its pretty dangerous to say that sort of thing.
I think guy above was just pointing out that terry was crazy, using the hard r usage as a singular symptom out of the many terry had. Never said he was at fault for being crazy, just that he was crazy, which I believe is pretty fair. I dont think there was disrespect meant there
@@BsicalyLucifer him saying the nword wasn't related to his schizophrenia since he said he was a skinhead
@@Dr_Hax Id suggest taking a deep dive into schizophrenia. It is such q diverse disease that can effect many parts of a person, as well as make a person believe things that they wouldnt otherwise believe. Such as things like racial superiority. Thats not to say that all people who believe in racial superiority are schizophrenics, but i wouldnt doubt that many of his beliefs were influenced by his schizophrenia.
Wow TempleOS, havent see anything about this in years.....
The most amazing thing which was skipped over is the fact the OS is 64-bit and with everything included its less than 2MB in size which is crazy. Very efficient way of creating the graphics and games. Despite his mental condition, the guy was a freaking genius.
Exactly! He was very much on the prime level of efficiency.. Just think where he went if he work for any big name!
Now a simple calculator is like 5 MB and 50 MB in RAM for some reason.
@@NaudVanDalen *laughs in electron app*
@@NaudVanDalen still better than chrome.
@@NaudVanDalen Because everything is built on so many API layers and other BS, its all been piled on top of the last gen ever since windows 3.1 at this point ... Linux is much more efficient but the rot is starting to set in even there, though at least people on that side give a damn and are actively working to stop it ...
You know Terry's made it when a mainstream tech channel covers TempleOS
Posthumously, sadly.
Just imagine Terry's reaction if he found out a channel with over 11 million subscribers covered his life's work.
😢😢😢😢
@@JulianLopez-nd9ts making money by creating content & (+including stupid ads) of a dead person's life achievement that his low-iq-brain is not even nearly grasping what he's witnessing but laughing it off in his ignorance.
he'd been disgusted
Being reminded of what was lost with Terry's illness never ceases to make my heart ache. He had the brilliance of a natural born tinkerer and the drive of a man haunted by phantoms. The breadth and depth of his creation is truly hard to fathom. TempleOS is a unique product of a person who was desperately clinging to the only thing that still made sense to him.
Terry Davis was actually a genius, he made this entire thing from complete scratch, no Linux or anything. His own programming language, compiler, 3D renderer and everything. He was a fan of effecient code, this entire os fits in just a few megabytes.
He was a genius, but he was a deeply broken person, it makes me feel really sad, he could have done so much.
Did his own Bootloader too... And all that fit onto a Floppy Drive.
@@josephgarfield3363 youre right dude..
he is ...
Man jokes aside, Terry Davis was a brilliant programmer and despite being in such a schizophrenia state, he coded something so complex
Well, schizophrenia is a state of reduced mental filtering, so schizophrenics tend to be creative, complex, out-of-the-box thinkers, hence the 'fine line between genius and insanity' trope..
True .. rip Terry ..!!
well ots actually easy to code conplicated things. Simple code is hard.
I know this is out there, but most artists and masters of a craft are usually not in a perfect state of mind, I mean today we are kind and call it eccentric behavior, but the aberrant psychological state is not normal of people on a higher level, and usually degrade quite fast.
The fact he did **ALL OF THAT** on his own is just...
Mind blowing, I've always wondered where he'd be nowadays if he'd accepted psychological help.
We can only dream
They don't mention that his lite version of his OS is just 2 mbs and it has real 3D graphics.
how
@@chairio6212 God's instructions, friend
@@chairio6212 ultimate genius optimization?
ever checked out the demoscene? they make insane 3d graphics with just 64 kilobytes :))
@@sylviaxx3574 Now that's a phrase I haven't heard in years.. I loved that 96KB game. (.kkrieger)
Terry is a tragic case, if he didn't suffer from Schizophrenia, I have little doubt his name would be among the top tech giants we know today. Man was a phenomenal programmer.
I don't think he would have been as great a programmer without having schizophrenia. Schizophrenia lead him to be socially isolated, and being socially isolated caused him to create Templeos. if he had been a normie he would have been too busy doing normie crap instead of building an os
@@mirandaladlad9429 I don't think that's true. His brain/mental was DESTROYED by his mental illness. I believe he would've been exponentially more intelligent if he wasn't getting worn down by his illness.
I don't think you can separate Terry Davis from his schizophrenia. That's who he was. Terry Davis without schizophrenia wouldn't be Terry davis. He would be someone else
if terry davis had been some non-schizophrenic normal person he would have been an entirely different person
@@mirandaladlad9429 You're just wrong.
@@matthewtenerelli3243 Most of the symptoms of schizophrenia didn't necessarily make him any "dumber" (you can look them up), they just slowed him down a lot. If he didn't have schizophrenia, but still wanted to build TempleOS, he could have maybe added a lot more essential features and have an almost-complete product.
you forgot one very important detail:
he wrote his own compiler
well that is implied when it was said that terry created his own prog language
since it is kinda hard to have a programming lang without a compiler
Metokur is based
they mention that he wrote the lot in "holy C". his own creation.
“I am the best programmer who has ever lived”
Have YOU every written an interrupt handler?
I was so surprised to see this on my feed. Terry Davis was my Uncle and I'm so happy to see his work being showcased on your channel! Your video also helped me figure out so much more about TempleOS that I didn't even know! Thank you guys so much for showing it on your channel! I sent all my family this video and they are so happy that his work is being shown.
yeah totally your uncle
@@MadsMadsen837 if its not, what's the harm beyond what their aware of for them claiming as such.
If they are, your kind of making an ass of yourself and putting a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Though you maybe anonymous through the internet, I just want you to think about that. It is easy to be cynical, but its more important to be hopeful is it not?
Have a nice day regardless tho and i do mean that.
stop lying
My uncle ownes Nintendo so he's cooler
@Mads Madsen You are welcome to believe what you want. I don't really care, this post wasn't for you. I posted this in hopes that they would see it so I could thank them for showcasing TempleOS on behalf of my family.
Top quote of 2020 : "I feel like trying to find meaning in it might lead me further from knowledge" - Linus
Do you know how often internet adventurer's like myself ponder that question? Lmao
I thought it was "4 o'clock...Hey, so..."
I am not the best programmer, but i know that creating an entire OS (and Kernel), compiler, Window-manager, file manager, etc from scratch alone takes an absolute genius
I have mad respect for this man
Let alone the sprite editor, 3D modeling program, 2D and 3D graphics libraries, and however many games, ALL in his own C-dialect programming language. It's simply astounding.
@@stevenlaczko8688 all in the context of early-80s tech, very impressive if he did it 20-30 years before he did those things
Linus: We're gonna get demonitized.
Me: *Sees no ads* Huh.
it's because he said it
I got an ad
Seems more like they'll get demonized
@@prismglider5922 hah!
RUclips can still put ads up on your videos without giving any money to you.
I think it's pretty amazing how much Anthony has grown on camera. I remember when he was on the first time, he was like this nervous big nerd guy who clearly knew a lot, but barely managed to get anything out, but now he's casually just explaining stuff. Really nice to see.
Prolly smartest non admin dude in this company
What’s up with that one island of hair on the front left of his head tho
Can you send the link to the Video of anthonys first time?
@@skonaz not just the smooth silky relaxing voice, but also the intellect
@@midokotwow Yeah well, not all men are blessed with full hair. When I look at pictures of my father when he was my age... I consider myself lucky.
“By the way that was 16 colors” thank you for reminding us Anthony, Terry would’ve wanted that
Dude this needs to be top comment.
That single one-liner sums up this entire video.
I suffer from Bipolar Disorder but I'm ridiculously talented at anything I do. I strive for perfection but I know that perfect is something nobody but Gods can be. Never perfect but always perfecting. Meanwhile my mental health is basically non-existent. Mental illness fucking sucks, man.
@@RNG-999 so sorry.
Terry LOVED 16 colours.
I think Terry Davis made Temple OS 640x480 at 16 colours because every graphics card supports VGA. He would have had to remake drivers for every card if he made it higher than that.
@@the32bitguy it was clearly god's command
"i wrote my own compiler I'm not a ninja like Linus"
"...when my bird was looking at my computer monitor, I thought 'woah, that bird has no idea what he's looking at'. And yet, what does the bird do, does he panic? No, he can't really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he's so ignorant? Well, he doesn't really have a choice. Yeah, he can kinda live...usually the bird's okay, even though he doesn't understand the world, and he can kinda learn what's safe and what's dangerous. So uh, that's where I've been living." -Terry A. Davis
@Pickleman he truly was a genius. Every time i hear this ruclips.net/video/oY33uoBSw3w/видео.html i feel like crying because i remember all the amazing things terry did. We truly have lost a genius
This brings a tear to my eye.
Terry's demons haunted him. This was one of those moments of absolute clarity, where he was aware of how much he had lost and what was happening and knowing there was nothing he could do but live on. May God be merciful on his soul.
I've heard/seen this quote so many times before. Its really interesting finding out its from Terry.
...nah. sorry but thats just babble imo. of course its sad that he felt he was living in a world he could never understand, but theres nothing truly insightful in that statement, not about the human condition and definitely not about birds. its literally r/Im14andthisisdeep fodder.
@@-yeme- it's not supposed to be a commentary on the human psyche
14:53 For those who aren't into coding; Terry's Holy C runs faster than regular C (which is saying a LOT) so coding under this environment is actually more efficient than coding under any other environment (C related)
there is the caveat of everything running in ring zero though. which, while very fast, is also way too dangerous to be done in an actual production system.
Does it have any speed advantages besides running in ring 0 (a TempleOS feature)?
holy shit.
no it doesnt
How so? Most C "speed" comes from compiler optimizations. In fact GCC will turn most naive microbenchmarks you'd run on a C-64 into a no-op which it can execute in literally zero time, because they don't execute, because they aren't there, because the compiler saw the bullshit you were pulling. GCC will turn a recursive call into a loop, unroll it, inline it, propagate constants, eliminate dead code, eliminate the test for the branch to dead code, and do a whole mess of other things so that what is 50 instructions in -O0 is 6 instructions in -O3. And then finally this function is small enough to inline somewhere else, and so it never even gets called, it just works 15 times faster than it rightly should.
"Let's be clear, I'm literally the smartest programmer that has ever lived"
- Terry A. Davis
yes
He's the only programmer that programmed with GOD!
Larry WalL?
Yes he was
he lived as he died. a legend.
You have to give it to Terry, "Holy C" is an incredibly smart pun
“The smartest programmer who has ever lived” - The smartest programmer who has ever lived, Terry A. Davis
Davis*
shy didn’t see that, thanks
He may be good in programming but he was not smart. He spend his life coding a useless operating system with no friends.
@T3KKANッ well it kinda does. He thought a giant government agency is hunting him and that hes being given commands by "god"
@@LucianGarz-x9q How easy do you think it is to build an operating system from scratch, by yourself?
Mount Sinai and Horeb are both proper names for the mountain. It's just more popularly known as Sinai.
Yeah, Horeb is preferred in Deuteronomy on the story about the golden calf so he def wasn't wrong.
Nikolai Morozov thought that Horeb meant "horribilis" Vesuveus. Epic guy.
TempleOS is the Computer Science equivalent of the obscure music album created by a troubled genius that is equal parts incredible/flawed/frustrating/fascinating all at the same time
If Brian Wilson made an OS.
I'd ask to know more, but I don't know if I _want_ to know more
Mayhem's OS
Well it was almost the same story as in a song "pink floyd - shine on you crazy diamond" in my opinion...
@@gondeazidws6051 So he's like Syd Barrett? Fitting, actually.
The fact that he did all of this on his own, including creating a graphics library, is just nuts.
Im trying to understand how nuts. They say a man building a skyscraper bare handed.. but would it be like a temple? Is there a few more articulations? Maybe?
@@sparrowbreedit’s like building your own car from scratch (your own engine, wheels everything)… and to top it off saying you won’t use anything round because you have religious beliefs about circles and prefer squares
@@feraiivie you nailed that explanation
Graphics lib is probably the easiest part.
Imagine what Terry could do with a team of programmers and a million dollar budget at IBM. He'd no joke create a portal to heaven.
Stop smoking weed or using other psychoactive drugs.
@@limpa756 HOLY SHIT YOU FIXED THEM BATMAN
@@Thinktank-rn6dm Ikr, was easy
There might already be a backdoor to heaven into TempleOS.
@@limpa756 bruh-🤠🤡
"You wanna place yourself in a position to give maximum glory to your Creator. So you go out there, and you be somebody glorious, okay?"
-Terry A. Davis
words to live by
This is what your grandma sees when u teach her how to use Windows
Lol
haha spot on
.
And how I felt when moving from Win 7 to 10
@@masimies lmao
Terry Davis is a once in a lifetime genius. There are only a handful of people, living or dead, that could rival his talents. It's a shame what we lost with his illness and passing.
He was a genius and the story of his demise seems very.... wanting, in terms of believability.
@@escapetherace1943 He was murdered by the glowies! don't believe there lies.
My God. This is the single best OS demo I've ever seen on this channel, especially with Anthony leading it.
Anthony makes every video 100 times better.
Probably because Anthony knows what he's stalking about
@@Wockes damn that was a good response
Lol... "My God"...
“I like elephants, and God likes elephants... here's a realistic elephant” - Terry Davis
"What do you mean by more realism? An elephant with blue eyes."
elephants are pretty cool animals tbh, second only to pongos
@@MsJavaWolf Elephants are cool and all but pangolins are where it's at
thanks terru
I mean Elephants are the Shiznaws but poachers love to murder the poor animals
Never stop referencing Trogdor, as long as we remember him he will live on in our hearts. Burninate eternally.
When I got to this comment, it had three likes. Just as expected.
I just recently got back into computers. When I booted up Kali Linux for the first time and saw the desktop I was like, "Trogdor‽‽‽‽?????"
I love strong bad
@@ncsupi homestar media forever ♾
The greatest site the Internet has ever seen. No longer in Flash. We mourn the loss.
13:30 According to vague memory and specific googling, Mt Sinai was where Moses saw the burning bush, and Mt Horeb was where he got the Commandments. And apparently they *may* have actually been the same mountain.
Yes, that's the tradition in Judaism.
"Can it do anything else useful?"
You mean besides talk directly to God himself? there really is no pleasing some people...
I know! The Linux kernel module for this has been in development for ages, and _still_ doesn't work.
What better thing to do than spend time with Mr. God?
25 cents... is all it takes Kevin
Talk to Satan about life problem
@@TheDeathChrist great obscure reference. And good taste in media my friend.
Anthony is what happens when you've mastered all of the old and new elements and become the fully realized tech avatar lol He is perfectly humble and masterful all while shedding light on the masses. He has such a fundamental and nonjudgmental way of instructing and correcting mistakes or misinformation. Gd it I love this dude.
He is the minority of nerds who actually have their ego in check while clearly being more knowledgeable than pretty much everyone, if not absolutely everyone, on the team. His chill attribute is wayyy over 9000. I can't imagine the knowledge that he has that can't be fit into the brevity of these videos. Can we get an instructional vid series from him?
Anthony is the man.
Couldn't have said it better! Anthony seems to be just oozing with competence in every video he's in. When I first saw him (testing fake SD cards video) I thought he was some specialist they hired to come help test the sd cards. But nope, he's just an extremely competent and calm member of the crew.
He’d probably make a great Fabricator General.
Anthony reminds me a lot of Wendell / Level1Techs. Maybe check them out if you're looking for something in that vein?
@@steveheist6426 Thanks! I will check it out now :)
I like how Linus turned down his voice when he's referring to the OS creator and his work
Why did he do that tho
Ah the glowies
Very Canadian
a decent person wont make fun of dead people
Six eight (6/8) is a time signature meaning it tells you how the music is played. 6/8 specifically means six beats per measure, eighth notes get the beat
Out of all the things I thought I'd see LTT cover, TempleOS was at the bottom of the list
owain owein It totally is surprising, and welcome!
So it WAS on the list...
This man is incredibly talented, and it disgusts me that people make fun of him for actions caused by an illness.
The world lost a genius
Too bad he was also a racist
@@r2com641 no I'm not
@@Catafracta230588 His shizophrenia made him that way, don't blame it on the guy himself. Blame the medical system that prevented him from getting the treatment he needed.
@@RAHelllord I totally get it, yet I'm not sure if being schizofrenic could be a justification for such attitude. But still, I wouldn't judge him just based on that. I think he was, after all, a genius and, sadly, a victim of negligence.
@@Catafracta230588 awesome I like him even more
appreciate ya'll covering Terry Davis. He was an imperfect person, but his body of work cannot be denied. It's definitely a piece of outsider art. RIP Terry.
You can tell how nervous Linus is about associating with anything remotely controversial.
cuckboy needs his millions of dollars in sponsor money
@@doctirdaddy4876 Makes more money than you'll ever see loser.
@@doctirdaddy4876 For him and his dozens of employees. You kinda have to watch what you say when you actually are somebody.
@@lfox02 hes a nobody
doctir daddy That’s why you’re concerned enough to watch and comment on their videos, right?
Terry "That Linus is a hack, didn't even write his own compiler!"
@Abraham Shoahstein lol nice
"Maybe I'm just a bizarre little person who walks back and forth."
Rest in Peace King Terry
That was hard to read, RIP.
I miss him, lads :(
It's good to be king. Wait. Maybe.
RIP 👑👑
Ah :(
On the Mt. Horeb subject: the wiki states that there are mentions of both names (Sinai & Horeb) referring to the same place in historical texts, but one interesting thing to note is that there is a Mount Horeb, Wisconsin, which is a little west of where Terry was born in West Allis, Wisconsin
Man, the story behind this is genuinely heartbreaking.
Very true. There are definitely some heartwarming parts where fans would help him out and even went out to meet him.
Don’t be sad that it’s over be happy that it happened
Yes man it disturbed me for so long qnd feelt so terrible for him rly like we faild the guy
@@theodhorzhobro4646 learn to spell man
any1 got a super quick summary of the story?
How talented was he? Before his psychotic break he developed ALL of the systems used by Ticketmaster singlehandedly.
really much talented.....while he wrote everything on his own and if im not wrong the OS is the most "complex and hard" written software....
his kernel boots up in under a second or somthing like that.... that is really dope.....just saw that documentation fopr a couple of days and read some stuff about him and his os
ticket Master got lucky af, probabaly given billions in funding and one dude does it for under 2 years salary
he also wrote other softwares like Sim Structure. Its something like Matlab. remember he wrote it himself...you can find it on the net for free google "Sim Structure Terry Davis"
He wrote his own compiler to compile his own holyC programming language into machine code and then proceeded to write everything he ever used from scratch all by himself. It's as much genius as the end product was madness.
He was super talented, a genius even. He did everything down to the single tiny bit and byte.
I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciate how Linus and Anthony never said “He went nuts”.
Good that they wont get flagged or something but its super implied when they said he was diagnosed with schyzophrenia. There is no mentally sane or sound schyzophrenic person on earth, they are all nuts.
@@laharl2k like everybody else... 😏
@@laharl2k not true. Some cultures around the world have been shown to embrace people with schizophrenia, make it a liveable condition, and even cure it in some cases
There was also a strong troll presence online that was able to take advantage of his disability and manipulate him for their own enjoyment.
@@GiffysChannel while there was a lot of that, there were many people who ended up caring about him a lot and basically funding him so he wouldn't starve on the street
I knew Terry's story, but I never realized how impressive this OS was. Thank you guys for showing off this software and actually giving the service it deserved
Linus: what is it?
Anthony: it's a God doodle.
Linus: when will it finish?
Anthony: eventually
Linus: What did it cost the maker?
Anthony: Everything
Yes, I also saw the video.
Gonna load this OS on a usb drive and tell my friend who is building a pc that its an unlocked version of windows 10
Do it!
that's a little evil but also quite funny
Is it done ???
Dont dare to use the holy tools for such mischievous purpose
@@alejandrobailon1761 Or CIA agents will come glowing into your house
6:13 "The Holy Spirit Menu which you can access after you open up the God Doodle application" That's a sentence I wasn't expecting to hear today. Or ever.
Lmfao
3:30 for those who don't know, the language name "Holy C" is a pun. The Holy See is another name for the Vatican lol
"I'm not a n***** like Linus I code my own compiler!" Real quote btw
Yes I remember
He wasn't talking about this Linus obviously.
@@Summerwood777 Oh really?
@@user-og6hl6lv7p he was talking about Linus Torvalds
@@ishdx9374 no proof, didn't say his last name. could've been this linus🤷♀️
"We're gonna get demonitized over all the religious stuff going on"
*No ads on a 17 minute video whatsoever*
-Coincidence? I think not.
He didn't place ads on this video, he told us though.
Hail satan! Lol. Maybe youtube thinks mythology is real and factual.
79707 jesus loves you
He put 2 ads in himself at the start and the end
There is an ad in this video but it's hidden
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Hey guys! He was right:
Horeb; Mount Horeb
The mountainous region surrounding Mount Sinai. Another name for Mount Sinai. (Ex 3:1; De 5:2)
I came here to say the same thing. I want to say it was Constantine's mother who decided Mount Sinai I was the proper location.
My mans made his own programming language and compiler and actually used it to do something. That is actually legendary
'holy C'
'yeah, he was a Catholic'
It's a play on "Holy See" the Catholic jurisdiction in Rome
better hide yo kids.
CGPgrey vibes anyone?
@@TheBuzzati Explaining the joke kills the joke.
@@diabl2master Facts
RIP in piece Terry Davis, we can rest assured he's driving over glowies in the afterlife, keeping us safe from ghostly gangstalkers and bad code
GLOOOOOWIES BEWARE, YOU'RE UNDER MY TIRES.
RIP means rest in peace.... So you just said rest in peace in piece. Was he chopped up after he died?
Yeah, rest in peace in peace.
@@txjeb Well, he was hit by a train, so... maybe.
John Bailey lol out loud
It's amazing that Terry Davis made this from scratch alone.
IKR? From the compiler all the way to an OS.
Even more insane when you realize how efficient his code is. Very few lines of code. No bloat at all.
@@BenderdickCumbersnatch Well if you do everything in ring zero that simplifies some things but also means you can't connect to internet and not expext to be exploited.
Immensely capable person, shame what happened to him
@@kepler1175 what happened to him?
the really impressive thing is that he built TempleOS AFTER being diagnosed with schizophrenia. Which means he not only built this operating system and all its games, but he did it will also battling his disease. Honestly one of the most talented programmers of all time
Also remember, TempleOS is only 2.4 MB
Whoa
Holy crap
WTF
Well it's a dogshit os so yeah makes sense.
@@DiegoRomer0 it has over 100k lines of code
today clusterfuck you see when creating project in any language takes like 5-200 MB on its own
"Somewhere between C and C++"
Well...
C+ ?
You're joking but back when I went to middle school I thought there was C, C+, C++ and C+++
_Seabass_
aTarii ו what even is that
@@aTaryum Well there is C++++ which is C#. The # symboll is actually 4 pluses
Come on, it's at least a B-.
Anthony you need to be careful about revealing your power level like that.
@Eye Patch Guy guys call the van convoy, time to run over those glowies
Simply "being aware of TempleOS" doesn't exactly imply... anything at all... about someone's cringetastic chudly "power level".
It's over 1,337!!!
@@KingBobXVI Okay king "all your base are belong to us" bob.
@@aelix56 Whats a chud? the thing you play with while your old lady gets pounded?
I am blown away! What a shame the world lost this talent. Anthony clearly did a lot of research into this. It would be great to see a vid on his experience and thoughts of this OS and everything involved. I'm off to watch "Down the rabbit hole"
"I don't think I've ever seen an interface this unintuitive and cluttered"
Linus clearly has never played Dwarf Fortress.
"time is subjective"
Even an ascii purist myself can admit having to navigate the text menus is frustrating as fuck if you don't know exactly where you are going lol.
The thing that everybody was heard of Dwarf Fortress was thinking.
Dude just built everything from ground up even the damn language himself and Linus is complaining about the UI/UX.
Yeah, Dwarf Fortress takes it all. A lovely game about stunted alcoholics dying and killing in the most horrible ways.
Can we just respect what an amazing pun "Holy C" is?
Agreed. I spit my drink.
I'm glad it was name C not S
Is that holy Cow
Francis would be proud
@B SOU The seat of the pope in Catholic tradition is also called "The Holy See"
“CIA agents”
I see you didn’t use the full term
I’ve seen you around the discord, brethren.
@@yungboomer6467 nice
The *proper* term, "glowies."
full term that terry used is 'glowing cia n*****'
I see you didn't use the full term either
I can completely get behind that 14th commandment! schizophrenia is terrifying, my late uncle was hospitalized for it for many years and when he took his meds he was amazing but every few months he would decide to stop without telling anyone and within a few days you would be able to tell very easily. He lived across the street from me at the end of a dead end street next to a thick woods. When he was off his meds he would see what he reffered to as "Werewolves" and he would stand at the edge of the tree line to the woods and scream at teh creatures he was seeing. A year before he passed my cousin (his oldest daughter) lost her 1.5 year old baby to SIDS and he basically spiraled out of control, stop meds completely, was hospitalized but refused to eat or drink and sadly his heart gave out in 2019. It's such a scary illness.
Most of his "iconic" references can't be typed into a youtube comment without getting banned.
You just run them over. That's what you do.
Observe an ant colony
Run the colourful badge guys over. It's easy, they glow in the dark.
What's wrong with saying Dog backwards?
Glowy bois.
“Holy C” is probably a pun based on a part of the Catholic Church, “The Holy See”. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See
Not only that, but Temple OS has its own file system, called "RedSea".
And the command for partitioning is called "part".
So you can literally "part the RedSea"... (I'm not even making that up!)
@@kabochaVA This is amazing
Having read about the guy, it probably isn't a pun
It absolutely was a bit of wordplay on Terry's part, although probably one made in reverence instead of irreverence, so not a "joke" per se. Just because he was insane doesn't mean he was completely unaware of the world outside his malfunctioning brain.
Ya, I think everyone gets that. And skip the 'probably'.
There's 2 kind of programmers.
One that have wrote their own compiler and one that havent
Speaking as the kind of programmer who has written her own compiler: this isn't a helpful way to group programmers.
@roxoto eh?
@@Milamberinx i assume they think you're a trans woman, because of the "programmer trans girl" stereotype
and judging by the pepe pfp, i assume they're an edgy rightoid so... yeah
@@Milamberinx It was a great quote by the creator of temple OS, (late) Terry Davis.
as expected it pisses of a lot of people.
@@cryoffe879 Well he's technically and biologically correct.
RIP Terry Davis. The Glowies will never be forgiven for taking you from us.
16:08 Shout out to Fredrik Knudsen! Some how I knew near the end of the video Linus was going to mention Down The Rabbit Hole.
Yeah I was stoked they mentioned his video. It was so good. All of his stuff is.
Well I mean, he's not gonna shout out Metokur
@@BathoryQueen Metokur made a video on Temple OS?
Dude added 3d icons to a custom version of ascii. 3D emojis. Pretty darn impressive.
His command line was C-ish, and Music Macro Language was a feature of a number of BASIC variants, so not that unreasonable of an idea, especially when you consider things like ANSI escape codes and all of the control codes available in standard ASCII. I think that some of the Linux terminals are probably capable of a part of this feature set...
_Part_ of it.
@@absalomdraconis I'm not sure how it is done here, but back in the day I used to generate pseudo bitmaps with custom character sets generated on the fly. Pain in the butt, and kind of pointless, but fun to see what you could push in text mode
"...when my bird was looking at my computer monitor, I thought 'woah, that bird has no idea what he's looking at'. And yet, what does the bird do, does he panic? No, he can't really panic, he just does the best he can. Is he able to live in a world where he's so ignorant? Well, he doesn't really have a choice. Yeah, he can kinda live...usually the bird's okay, even though he doesn't understand the world, and he can kinda learn what's safe and what's dangerous. So uh, that's where I've been living." -Terry A. Davis, the man responsible for Temple OS.
lovely
And then he killed the bird.
@RITA 25 y.o , I WANT SЕХ !!! OPEN MY CANAL !!! Cursed.
LOL people live in their own ignorant little world 24/7 by watching state media, why cant a bird?
@@SwedishEmpire1700 because it's a bird
As a guy who used msdos back in the day I look at this and it's wonderful. You can make a disk drive with your RAM if you want. It's amazing.
"We're gonna get demonitized over all the religious stuff going on over here"
Yeah, that for sure was the most offensive thing about Terry A. Davis.
They glow in the dark man...
@@steel5897 make sure you run them over
I don't think Linus knew 😂
@@JustSomeGuy009 Honestly I'd say people with mental illnesses are the most offensive...
Well the video is now demonetized