Exercise Scientist Baffled By Brie Larson's Captain Marvel Workout
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- Exercise Scientist Dr. Mike Israetel Reacts to the best and worst Hollywood workouts and celebrity training, and evaluates how effective they are, based on current science!
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00:00 Introduction
01:01 Worst hip thrust
07:28 Actually working out begins
11:54 Closing Thoughts And Rating 
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A bunch of Brie fans here are missing the point. Dr. Israetel is not criticizing her. He is angry at the "trainer" that is selling her smoke and pretty much defrauding her and just in this specific "training" video. The fact that she got stronger eventually, like anyone would with regular training does not mean that this specific video by this trainer is not terrible. Again, his issue is with the trainer not with Brie.
You think the point for Israetel is anger management. Besides that, him selling muscular hypertrophy as a way for kinetic abilities is certainly smoke and defrauding in most cases.
@@2adamast INDEED - HE'S AS FULL OF SH1T AS THE NEXT GUY - I DONT HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH ANYBODY THAT CAN MOTIVATE SOMEBODY TO GET OFF THEIR A$$ & ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF EXERCISE - BUT TO ALWAYS SAY THEY'RE ALL WRONG IS GETTING KINDA OLD
There are Brie fans?
@@1776Janthat is what I wanted to say
@@1776JanI’m one.
Hollywood training mantra: 'Complexity is king'
"What is this doing? We have absolutely no idea! But you know what? It looks hard and that's really the point right?" LOL probably what they say behind doors😂
Well, they would be dissapointed if they went to the guy and he was like: "squat, hinge, push and pull 3x week to failure, multiple sets. Ok 15k $ please"
@@MZ-9993 Not when they also say 'Oh and I have access to a discreet steroid dealer that will 5x your results and I'll happily lie on record saying it's just chicken, broccoli, and rice for you so you can keep your squeaky clean image. I'll also help promote your movie in the top fitness magazines.'
Now that $15k seems like a bargain.
Meanwhile Charles Bronson just did push ups and pull ups at his apartment and looked awesome.
@@aberwood sure, and its probably the case most of the time
The exercises were selected to make her tired and worn out so she would “feel” she was making progress after each workout. They were also selected for they’re “coolness” factor so she could look cool doing them, and by extension make the trainer appear innovative. Would love to see a before and after, especially since he never mentions what her goals were.
"They were also selected for they’re “coolness” factor so she could look cool doing them"
Sums up the entire fitness industry from the last 40 years...
She had 9 months & this "trainer" was talking about stunt? Maybe she should have been doing some fighting routines as well. The studio paid for this guy? Strength, speed, resilience can be done by different fighting styles. Marvel studios needs to get their money back.
if you cant read/write well or are not intelligent enough to differentiate between their and they are you probably should thread carefully when you criticize
their*
@@gooble69no, it really doesn't.
I've been a trainer now for 3 years and would still consider myself a "novice" trainer. It's so reassuring to see people and coaches such as yourself calling out workouts like this - when I look at those or watch them and query ...maybe these celebrity trainers know something I don't. It's nice to realise they actually don't and it's best to stick to the science and the "unsexy" yet effective workouts. New subscriber thank you for the excellent content and clear breakdown.
Trainers “to the celebrities” have a talent for sales and know how to market their brand (themselves). I’ve been going to gyms since the 80’s, have a Health Science teaching credential, and I’ve seen a LOT of exercise fads and trainers come and go. I couldn’t watch many of those “training” videos… and dbags like “V Shred” drive me nuts. I discovered Dr Mike and it was so cathartic to see him call out the bad trainers and give props to the good ones. He looks and sounds like a meathead, but he’s incredibly knowledgeable. If your instincts were in line with what Dr Mike is saying you know what you’re doing. Stay confident.
been a trainer since 2019 and still dont know anything according to my professor who has been “self employed” through NASM exclusively.
Experience and education are both important. And if someone is only experienced screaming into their own echo chamber, these are the kind of “trainers” well get.
They do know something you don't. They know how to bullshit their way into top $$$ paychecks training multi-millionaires.
Been a trainer since 2017, still learning new things all the time. Another great thing to come to terms with, EVERY SINGLE trainer has told and instructed clients in things that you later find out are not ideal or sometimes flat out wrong. You grow, you learn, you do your best to be worth their time and money 💪
Thats a good attitude! Even Professors should consinder themselves to be students. Thats the only way to actually learn. Especially if you work in a branche that sells 90% BS.
What I'd REALLY like to see is a video by a trainer who trains all the stunt doubles.
They may not even need a trainer cause they actually know what they're doing.
Or just pay the stunt doubles to train the actors. Also pay a doctor to prescribe them all steroids.
The Stunt men and women are the real heroes of these movies!
Yes 👏🏼
You 2 beat me to it. Stunt doubles are some of the finest people on the planet.
Mike, thank you so much for mentioning that someone doesn't need to physically help with hip thrusts or touch their clients when they are doing them. There are so very questionable "glute gurus" out there who touch their clients constantly, and it is not needed, and it is creepy behavior.
Very.
That's unfortunate. :(
*cough* Bret *cough* Contreras.
They're "motivating you" you absolute heathen ;).
I agree! There is almost no reason to touch a client....you can touch the weights if spotting...maybe if your trying to help with mind muscle connection 💪
I would love to see a celebrity train with Mike and get an actual workout in.
he wouldnt be approved by the studio for being a real human
I’d pay to see that shit
This guy is gold! Your roasts are both funny and educational. How shocking that Hollywood even screws this up. I kind of feel sorry for Brie for wasting nine months with this yahoo when she could have made serious gains with a competent trainer.
OKay first of, I can tell this dude is really looking to create content. some points are valid some are just as pointless as the workouts hes trying to call out. 2. she did get in good shape for the movie, thats not even a matter of question so obviously the results speak for themselves. So clearly not a waste of time.
@@Holret Ok first of all, if he’s not here to create content, why would he be on youtube? Of course he’s here to make content, but it’s educational because he has a PhD in sport physiology. What are your credentials? And secondly, yeah she “got in shape”, whatever that means, but not effectively. Maybe it wasn’t a waste of time per se, but it sure as hell was a waste of money. He’s pointing out that for the time she spent training, if she actually had a knowledgeable trainer, she’d have MUCH muscle growth OR she could’ve gotten to the same place she is now in less time.
I think what people are not getting it is that these trainers are selling the illusion that they're not getting the actors ready to look a certain way but instead to perform the difficult tasks they need during filming. Which is absolutely bullshit, but that's why they always show these "functional" obsessed workouts and always justified them with the "they need to be able to do this for the character" non-sense. It's all smoke and mirrors to not admit actors train for looks and not for performance (mostly at least).
I wonder if the goal isn't to trick the actor as well. If you're doing legit training, it's easy to seek out strength standard on legit exercises and realize you ain't shit after 9 months of training. But with random nonsense, you'll get better at it and won't have any reference to compare. You can then feel like an actual superhero while these yes-men trainers feed your ego in that sense.
Kind of like the dudes with mediocre gains and S/B/D who go for strength on weird exercises like lat raises and then scoff at the big guys using mere 10 lbs dumbbells.
Just a thought.
Mike isn't missing it though. He directly addresses it saying things like "the suit is a prop that is actually light, the actor isn't really gonna need to jump 50 feet into the air, you're training them to *look* a certain way" etc.
100%. I remember RP did the breakdown of Henry Cavil one and the training had him do some weird dumbbell thing for "holding and wielding a sword."
And I'm like....I'm sorry but swords aren't heavy in general and the sword is rubber in anything except a glamour shot anyway....
@@Galuche1L1U I'm the best person I know at reverse hyperextension with a kettlebell held on the back of my neck that I know. Take your 315 bench and suck it pleb.
Exactly. And it’s very interesting how all these other men’s health celeb “train with me” (or whatever) workout videos never show them working their legs even though you can see they do.
I used to work in a gym for a movie studio lot and almost no one actually did any training, 95% of all the “exercising” that was done was similar if not identical to a lot of what was covered in this video. The only reason anyone lost weight was because they ate less, but of course most of the people attributed their weight loss to the complex exercises they did. I somehow managed to work there for 7 years while I made a transition to software.
Are they on steroid to make those shapes. Those exercise are not near effective let alone optimal. Is the guy in the video just bluffing?
Dropped this 👑
@@Kwisatz-Chaderachlol what?
@@MyNameJeff.. King shit
@@Kwisatz-Chaderach lmao cringe
I don’t know how I came across your vids… but I love your commentary. Your exercise advice is traditional without the fluff. I’ve been working out for 4 years now 4 days a week, you just confirmed for me that traditional exercises never fail.
Your video commentary is gold for so many reasons. They are actually hilarious listening to you dispel much of the substandard fluff training and back it all up with science. Very entertaining and REAL....thank god.
Amen to the commentary regarding unnecessarily touching your clients. This is a big pet peeve of mine. I've been a personal trainer for 12 years and can think of very few reasons to put my hands on a client. You can teach clients exercises without touching them. You can also correct form discrepencies mid set without touching them. Tons of trainers automatically resort to grabbing, tapping, or poking clients when they're trying to explain how to perform an exercise. Use your words, use analogies, demonstrate for them. If you're touching them you're in their personal space. Unless you're dealing with some kind of safety concern, step back and give the client enough space to do whatever you've just told them to.
When I first began training, we had a "guest speaker" come in who taught us to "not be afraid to touch your client," and I turned to my Director and said, "I'm walking out." I was the top earner in the club so I wasn't forced to stay and listen to this kook, and this was years and years ago, way before this whole MeToo climate! I did just that, and walked right out, leaving the Director, the "guest speaker" who was another trainer (!), and all my fellow trainers listen to this drivel. Even back then, I knew.
You have to ask what they were hiding?
@@faervas1234 Huh?
I like touching
You could also have a conversation with your client about the touch correction. Some people, such as myself, don't give a shit if someone touches me.
"She got as strong pound for pound as any guy I know... no seriously I suck at training my male clients and am advertising this willingly"
He had to push that stupid "Everything is Equal between genders" narrative that Disney has been spewing everywhere since the new Star Wars. He got big $$$ to tell that obvious F'ing lie.
😂😂
🤣
I've seen girls at my local gym that have muscles on their muscles, real great definition, competition material. They load the machines about as much as me, a 2 months newbie.
Brie Rules
I've been a personal trainer for over 20 years, and I LOVED your assessment and breakdown. I would also love to be one of your clients! I found this workout questionable as well as her "transformation." It was very underwhelming. For 9 months, she could have achieved far greater results. Jessica Biel looked great for Blade 3, for example. The only thing I'll defend is putting the blue air paid under her pecs while she's doing the pushups. Air pads are relatively thin and my guess is he put it there simply for a kinesthetic/tactile feedback so she could get a physical contact while maintaining her posture and quickly resume her pace and not drop down or collapse. It's not like it was as big as a Bosu ball or anything. Otherwise, her routine seemed way off the mark for what I would ever design for a "super hero's" physique, regardless of gender. It was obvious because even in her costume, she did not look sufficiently "fit." Terrific review and spot-on comments!!
Guess Brie never saw Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2
i liked the air pads too for the same reasons you mentioned and use them for my clients as well. its a great way to progress the push ups too; air pads this week, a thinner 10kg plate the next, until they can go full ROM chest to ground.
Gotta say, I‘ve been working in the Gym for 14 years now and rarely watch Fitness Influencers because they all try to come up with the one-exercise-to-rule-them-all and often prefer flashiness over effectiveness or believe that the more challenging an exercise is, the more effective it gets (pistol squats on a Swiss ball with one kettlebell overhead). Your advice and insight here was so refreshing and helped me reflect again on how I evaluate exercises for my clients
I love how you just not reject the exercise by just saying 'this is not effective ', but immediately rationalize and back up with solid reason. Also Dr. Mike provide us with better solution. This is the epitome profession and what I'm striving for to become in specific area. Great video as always btw!
But rejecting every exercise isn't a good thing lol. It's the biggest problem with fitness channels and influencers. Always have to criticize and reject other people's ways and promote your own. There's no 1 exact way to get big. Everyone is different. It feeds into the toxic gym culture if you just reject and criticize.
Epitome profession?
@@swaters5127 yes, if you don't agree that's fine
@@markmoore618if someone is incompetent you call them out on it. This guy isn't even trying to promote anything.
@@markmoore618Yeah but that doesn’t apply here though. There were multiple exercises where even I as someone that’s only been lifting for 8 months knew was bs and would limit hypertrophy. For “building a superhero body”, this is absolutely a nonsense workout that is actually counterproductive. Genuinely, what on earth was the purpose of the small blue exercise ball underneath her during the press up? Needlessly complicated, and counterproductive. Stuff like that needs to get critiqued harshly.
I'm so happy this came up in my recommended. As a woman who has started novice weightlifting relatively recently, I have always innately felt confused and perplexed by the exact things you point out in this video as unnecessary or inefficient to add to strength training routines, but insecure that everyone seems to be doing them. It is SO validating to hear someone advocating for more direct hypertrophy exercises and dismissing the pop fitness fluff as fluff. I subscribed instantly.
You'd love Martin berkhan.
He called this "fuckarounditis."
GJ!
The problem is, most people dont want to accept exercise is simple, and takes work and discipline. Lift weights. Do calesthenics. Do cardio. Eat well. Sleep 8 hours. Every day. They just try to make it more complicated because they lack discipline and dont want to do all the work.
Who is _’everyone’_ ?
These aren’t basic compound movements like _Bench / Squat / Deadlift._
@@TheSuperappelflap Correct.
If you’re fat, it’s because of eating. Eat less. Go for a walk.
You would think this is common sense.
I love your videos. I was thrown into a trainer position with only a 2 month "cert" and worked there 3 years.
I have learned more watching your videos than I was ever taught in that gym! ❤
Thank you for going back to basics!
This channel has great content. Dr Israetel knows what he is talking about, explains things clearly and is entertaining. Attributes of an excellent teacher.
I do not understand how the Hollywood trainers get away with their pretentious and ineffective training advice.
Finally, just *look* at the different physiques. I know who I’d intuitively expect to be the better trainer.
I love these videos because they make me momentarily feel superior to people who are exponentially more successful than me
If you call making an (unreasonably good) living by being a clueless self-confident motherfucker who professionally rips even more clueless people off, then yes, they're "successful".
I know what you mean... LOL
Like how?
@@nooblifter390 Intelectually superior. These are trainers who have 0 clue about exercise science.
Ah, true self awareness. Lol.
"This is gonna be as tough as it is pointless" ... Ha ha, that is a classic. Literally laughed out loud at that. This are now my favourite videos.
TBF that looks like great cardio!
@@edwardburroughs1489 It's not only the words, but the perfect deadpan delivery that gets me. Hollywood, make the call !
Fluff
@@edwardburroughs1489 you could also bike for cardio and do actual overhead presses and deadlifts and you'd get more results out of them
I just found this channel and it's my new favourite pastime! Mike, you're hilarious as well as really informative :D
Great video! I enjoyed this immensely. Happy to subscribe.
I don't know if this means anything to you guys but these types of videos are definitely the ones that I find most entertaining (I'm undecided if they're my favorite but pure entertainment wise they take the cake)
They're also very good for educating noobs who might otherwise think this is actually a good workout.
Same. It's also therapeutic because getting exposed to these weird workout vids can leave me feeling insane, thinking I'm suddenly living in some bizarro universe
hating is fun. always has been
You said " when you're a 270# person, you sweat no matter what you do " I thought I was going to choke. 😂😂 your humor is awesome and I'm sure we'd be good friends.
Being that weight myself for a time, it is no joke. Being that overweight is like wearing as 70 pound jacket all the time.
I know nothing about training and starting my gym experience now.... But you have me convinced. Very funny video, and educational. Thank you!
I'm bingeing your videos. I love your channel 🙌
I’d like to see Dr Mike actually speak and debate the training with one of these guys. I mean how bad could it be? Seedman bad?
He's very careful to not be too assertive now in debates. See the Greg Doucette fanbois after their debate.
@@MattRadioheadhead You honestly don't need to be a Doucette fanboy to come off that debate and think that Dr. Mike was overly combative and condescending. and I'm saying this as someone that prefers Dr. Mike.
@@MattRadioheadhead , isnt that was couple years ago and now they cool yet some people still be like: "Yeah rost Greg!!!"?
@@SantosAl The same idiots who call a Sports Science guy "Dr" regardless of having a PhD, are the same ones calling Ivy League PhDs and some of the world's top scientists by their first name.
@terminator2348 I'm sorry, english isn't my first language, so it might be my fault, but i feel like I'm missing some context from your comment. What are you trying to say?
Why did i call him dr. Mike: Mike has a phd. Doesn't that give him the title of Dr.? Also, i mostly used it because that's how he introduces himself on the videos.
I love this 🤣!! I learned the same stuff you have mentioned like "the best warmup is using lighter weights doing the same motion" while working at Golds Gym back in the early 2000's lol.
These are great and very informative. It is great to know what workouts don't work as intended.
My 1st time watching you, but I got a good laugh mate, bloody awesome mate you got a sub!
The fact that you ever worked around crossfitters and didn't immediately start yelling at them is a testament to your patience.
You mean puking at every workout isn't really a good metric for how effective the set is? That was what the guy at the crossfit gym down the road from me used as a selling point.
Crossfitters are the worse, lol!!!
I think crossfitters get a bad rap. Just about every crossfitter I know is pretty strong and chill. The one and only real problem with CrossFit as far as I can tell are certain gyms pushing beginners to do advanced lifts that they aren't ready for.
This guy earns $1000 an hour to "train the stars" ...
Nah, they're not training celebrities ALL the time. They have regular clients too. They also can't just charge triple the amount JUST because someone has money. That would be like McDonalds charging $50 for a burger to a rich person😂
@@XXLRebel , why dont they?) If they know befire hand that person is rich they might be like: "For you I have special programm! It would be more expensive, yet..."
@@XXLRebel I bet if he’s in “demand” with celebrities or clients that wanna “train” like the celebrities, he cranks that rate up pretty high. I don’t think he changes the rate based on who makes more money, but I bet he’s increased his price to a degree that it detours the poors
@@XXLRebelna bro that’s exactly what people do. At least in the online space. There’s these courses that teach people how to sell “high ticket coaching”. It’s just online coaching marketed to rich people with a massively inflated price.
@@XXLRebel literally how a market functions ...
Thanks for the tip about glut bridge not being thr best choice and explanation about it
I'm a trainer and decided to watch the training video first and come back to this one after to see what I could assess. Agreed it was very gen pop, wayyyyy too much warmup, and so much random stuff thrown in there to make it *seem* cool and sciencey. Hearing you talk about having a specific physique goal and having exercises tailored to that specific goal, I was applauding you 👏 Reassuring to know that I am in fact a trainer worth my salt 😆
I was wondering though, isn't all this shizz about feeling the body (for expression) and looking cool for the screens rather than usual fitness related goals?
Are we positive they even had the same goals in mind than regular people working out?
Isn't this like a painter commenting a crayon picture?
Same here lol
@@goldenpony822no I don’t think so because there is a right and wrong way to do things, some things can change based on your goals but there are still things that could be tweaked to be objectively better.
For example if someone’s goal is training for a sport, they will train specific body parts, but those excercise still have to be done correctly.
Same. CPT here as well and I came here to write the same thing! :)
@@goldenpony822 perhaps not, but considering Brie was meant to play a super hero it seems weird that they wouldn’t focus even a little on actually looking muscular. If you are playing a intergalactic soldier turned super hero you are going to need to look like you’ve trained for longer than a week. I do suspect some of these exercises were designed specifically to not give her full and deep reps because the producers or Brie didn’t want her to gain too much muscle and would prefer her to just work thighs and buttocks.
My theory is the workout was designed to feel challenging but not actually put on that much muscle because either Brie, her agent, or the producers of the movie(s) didn't want her to be "too muscular".
That would make sense. It's the same with Wonder Woman, the only women that look like they lift anything in both Captain Marvel and WW movies are secondary characters
Pancake bootie is infamous
Excellent point. From interviews, she started filming first for the end credit scenes, before starting filming on her own movie. Which means she was fitted for the costume pre-workout. Marvel costumes are notoriously tight, but yes her workouts aren't helping.
You are an idiot. Women don't magically put on "too much" muscle.
Don’t want to be too muscular, but still want to pay for multiple expensive daily personal training sessions? There’s a word for that…
I love your approach to fitness. More science please, that would be awesome
Love your emphasis on full range of motion.
I'm addicted to this series, really good combo of entertainment and info
Don't quit Mike!!! We need YOU and others like you to cut through the BS of these "trainers." Take my sub and keep up the great work!
Yo Dr. Mike does the Hypertrophy app say how to get the body flowing and what the optimal temperature is to prime my nervous system?
Just found your channel. I like that you break down the BS that is often just 'smart words', translating it into useful knowledge 👍
Don't stop with these videos! The unintentional education I'm getting from this is amazing. And I def plan on trying a month on the app, just not in beta stage. I'm following this channel so I know when the bugs are worked out and the full version is available.
Best part of most of these 'train for a movie' workout videos from Men's Health (always them, isn't it?) is when you see the celebrities instagram later and they've switched to much more effective exercises. Oooh, there's a new series for Dr. Mike - compare the 'celebrity workout' from 'globo-gym publications' to what celebrity is actually doing on insta.
Used to buy Men's Health when I was a teenager in the 90s, until I found out all of the models in the magazine do steroid cycles in the cutthroat competition to get the exercise photo shoots. It's always been all bs
All channels do this they go by a short video clip from the workouts and assume it's the whole thing 😂😂
Thanks for the front foot elevated lunge mention. It's useful info for me
I just stumbled across this channel but i could listen to this guy ripping entitled hollywood people a new one for days straight. LOVE IT!
I think the skill of these trainers is that they pad the actor's egos by letting them work with a bunch of weight by modifying the exercise to be impractical
Think of it this way : do you REALLY think these actors are going to show up again if you make them work hard and leave them feeling exhausted??? These people who are becoming big names working with rich people and are about to be on the silver screen.
Do you really think they are about that life?
Hollywood is a chain of confidence-men and marks, bro.
The way normies think EVERYTHING needs to be spotted is beyond me. I see gym bros helping push their friends weights on machine lifts and everything in between. Damn near mounting bri larsen just to uselessly put your hands on the bar while she's doing hip thrusts just takes the cake.
No need to spot on a hip thrust the floor already does that
@@kaspershaupt exactly!
To think, she was in pretty damn good shape in those films. Can you imagine an RP trained Captain Marvel rocking up to Thanos??? Tony would have lived.
@@steveloge8119 I doubt she obtained her physic doing the training covered in this video
maybe the trainer just wanted to touch the hollywood celebrity... unpopular opinion pretty much all bs trainers hit on their female clients
Ah ! ❤ the knowledge you have Dr. Mike
Dude you are fricken hilarious! I'm hooked, love this!
He so brutally honest, but he just states the facts which is what makes it so funny 🤣
How have I only just discovered this channel? This was so funny and educational, now I have to go binge your content XD
The sweating comment really rung home. I'm 210 lbs and I sweat liberally. I often have to remind myself at the gym... that just because i'm dripping doesn't mean I've really worked hard.
This video just randomly auto played and I’m a big fan of criticizing Hollywood so what the heck I’ll give it a watch.
Great video,,,watching your frustration build was funny, good work! 🙏🏻 Sub’d
So I've seen incredible results with Paul Carter's programming and his work put out about glute/lower body hypertrophy. Seems to contradict Dr. Mike who I just discovered and greatly respect. Since abandoning deadlifts (in favour of RDLs) and not doing sumo movements, which I found gave me killer adductors, I've found incredible and thankfully quick muscle growth with very noticeable visual changes that I havent seen in YEARS (even after working with a crappy trainer for a year, sigh). Hip thrusts/glute bridges done right and going very heavy was a game changer for me. Wondering if anyone has any info/experience on their opposing glute hypertrophy views. I greatly admire the work/information they put out, thank you.
Dr. Mike please never change, love your videos
"She worked her ass off"
Well that explains why she had no ass in that movie.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yup…….
Her body double had a decent one one some scenes
@@AlexxxPeralesthey should have used the body double for the acting scenes too…
Brie has an amazing fit a ss you incel
First time on this channel, just curious about how bad was the work out plan for a exercise scientist to get mad
Learning a lot of stuff from you! Subscribed already
Wow, impressive insight. Thanks. I'm going to listen to this guy.
Excellent and well spoken as usual 🙂
I love these video concepts. You reactions are always instructive or hilarious
The analysis was spot on. Great comments, super educated and professionally knowledgeable. Entertaining too.
Nice... imagine how many have tried this workout. And spot on about the awkward hip thrusts it seems shes been taken advantage of...
Yo!! Dr. Mike and Dr. Bret Contreras should have a convo about hip thrust!! 🙌🙌 I would love to see that
Bret Contreras obviously has a different take on hip thrusts, would like to see a discussion between you two on that
Not really, people cherry-pick and take his statements out of context but Contreras himself deeply understands the essentiality of the squat/deep stretch
I was so confused when Dr Mike said this. I squatted for years and while my glutes looked nice they were never big. It wasn't until I added hip thrusts to my squat and lunge routine that I saw massive growth. I've also never felt such soreness or felt my glutes work as much as I do in that exercise. Eh, to each their own. You couldn't pay me to stop doing hip thrusts because they're so effective for me.
Yeah Dr Mike is just wrong on hip thrusts. It is a specialty exercise and the research on it as a glute builder is strong and growing. Yes there are other exercises, no one is saying lunges and sumos aren't great, but the "thrust doesn't work the stretch portion" doesn't match the reality that thrusts produce phenomenal glute growth.
@@staceydi6787yes! Same.
@@staceydi6787Same, idk where the hip thrust hate comes from…..
Great info and critique. 👍🏼
Awesome video - you rock!
I wonder how (besides knowing popular people) these PTs get the job of training actors, they are terrible at what they are doing lmao
Right! I wonder that too
There is no "besides knowing popular people" in this case
They are good at what they are doing. Mislead and sell.
We call it "pee in your ears" in my language.
I love the comment on the best warmup for squatting is squatting. So so true.
I spent so much time as a beginner lifter doing weird shit to get ready for compound lifts but just doing the lift with only the bar or a small amount of weight actually gets you ready to go.
Stretching is great to do before as well but complicated activation exercises are ridiculous
Same here!
Stretching before an exercise increases likelihood of injury. Warm-up before and stretch after. Source: The US military.
I always found that jump squats, cyclist dumbell squats, front squats overhead squats, are all superior to barbell back squat, for the legs.
And applies to almost any exercise.
Best warm up is a light easy version of the exercise, progressively increasing in intensity.
Scrap the stretching though.
It will temporarily weaken your muscles and connective tissue.
Working the target muscle through range of motion will actually give an immediate increase in flexibility.
Nice video. You got the perfect balance between funny, sarcastic and kinda mean. 😂And you seem very competent. I bet you're a great person to be around.
My nervous system got activated and I really felt the flow while watching this.
Best one yet. Mike's already thin facade of sanity is slipping away more each video. Great stuff.
This is the “I don’t want to get too bulky, just toned” and “I’m the celebrity and you’re the trainer so what I’m saying is correct” workout
-I dont need to like like gym girl! I need to look like superhero
-What is the difference?
-Superheroes are not real
Ha, "toned muscles". That is another good one
I was one of those "just toned, don't want to look like She-Hulk" girlies and now I cringe at the thought.
Yeah, those always make me giggle. Especially when you look at the amount of work behind bulking. I actually was trying to lose fat and knew that minimum cardio with maximum strength is my jam, from previous gym exploits. Started to bulk and I am now in the process of getting accidentally on purpose bulked and ripped, Linda Hamilton without the speed is my aesthetic, mostly because I don’t want to hit 50 and break. My goal is to gain as much muscle so that when sarcopenia (age related muscle loss) hits, I’m still strong enough to exercise and move and keep what I have. I don’t care if I look like She Hulk because at least then I don’t have to worry about being weak.
@@TheBaumcm , dont bulk. Maintain healthy bodyfat % and gain muscle with it.
My first video of yours I’m watching! SUBSCRIBED!
Push ups and walking up and down stairs for an hour will get the same results as 90% of Hollywood training. It’s crazy the gap of talent and experience = money is getting further…
Women often do hip thrusts instead of squats because they sometimes want glute hypertrophy without quad hypertrophy.
We could all learn something about trolling from this man. He convinced an entire movie production that "stick with pancake ass" is the ideal superhero body and kept up the illusion for over 9 months. p.s. it would be cool if you evaluated Christopher Reeve's training for the first superman movie, he was trained by David Prowse and did gain a lot of muscle for the movie.
Dang I had no idea vader trained supes. Thanks
what's mike's ((((political ideology))))?
Did Christopher reeves use gear?
@@Spanluverdoubtful, he was a big man already, was never big and lean
@@Spanluver I don't think so he was big but not that big, well in the range that is achievable although would be quicker with some gear.
I like the face expressions of Dr. Very funny and interesting when he explains the training. Make me want to see more of his videos.
God you have such an amazing channel! Keep it up!!
Hi Dr. Mike, I'm very curious to know your opinion of kneesovertoesguy's exercises. Would you consider doing a video on them?
seconded
Squat university too
I appreciate you explaining things in a way that's straight forward and easy to understand. I'm subscribing 😊
Dog rescue videos and Mikes deep analyses of these hapless training regimens make my day.
I wanna see Mike Vs Brett Contreras debate the Hip-Thrust please!
I only workout 2x per week, upper/lower, but I only focus on the basics, full ROM and take on as much tips of yours as possible. Seems to do the job, I'm happy with the shape I'm in
would be way more beneficial to do fullbody twice a week . do some research if you believe iam wrong
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@@user-ot2pu3qv3edepends how heavy he’s working but it’s not the same for everyone maybe for you and many you know
"She got pound for pound as strong as any guy I know and that's saying something". Yes, yes it is.
To be fair, most female powerlifters are pound for pound stronger than the males. And the larger you get as a male, the less strong you are per your bodyweight. Brian Shaw isn't deadlifting 5x his bodyweight, but an elite female powerlifter that weights 135lbs can.
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Arguable.
@@theunicornbay4286 not really, it's called the Wilks score in powerlifting. Typically those with the best wilks scores are women.
In regards to absolute strength, yes men have women beat. But strength per bodyweight, women tend to do better.
In defense of hip thrusts: Stretch based hypertrophy is not the only factor for exercise selection. There are two reasons that hip thrusts are good for growing the glutes:
1) Internal moment arms. Multiple large muscles contribute to hip extension. The glutes contribute most to hip extension in the extended position while the adductor magnus and hamstrings contribute more in the flexed position. This means standing hip hinge variations (I.E deadlifts) that are hardest at the bottom will be strongly biased towards adductors and hamstrings over glutes. Similarly, squats and lunges are biased towards the adductors and quads over glutes. This means glutes are not likely to be the limiting factor in most variations of these exercises for most people.
In contrast, hip thrusts are strongly biased towards the glutes. The exercise is hardest in the short position and thus favors the glutes over the adductors and hamstrings. And the flexed knee position further reduces the hamstrings contribution.
2) Low back fatigue. Most people are limited in their max weight, reps and recoverable volume of deadlifts and squats by low back fatigue.
In contrast, hip thrusts work the glutes with the abs, not the erectors, and therefore don’t contribute to low back fatigue. This is part of why people can generally tolerate much higher frequency and volume of hip thrusts than deadlifts or squats. Another reason is that hip thrusts also don’t create as much muscle damage or soreness.
So hip thrusts are not great for stretch based hypertrophy BUT, compared to deadlifts and squats, they allow you to train the glutes closer to the point of local muscular failure within each set, and closer to their maximum recoverable volume over a training period.
IMO the optimal approach if you are trying to grow your glutes is to perform hip thrusts at the beginning of your workout before your squats, deadlifts, lunges. This will prefatigue the glutes so they are more of a limiting factor during other exercises.
Wow great takedown. To tackle the lack of a stretched position, could you also elevate the feet as well as the shoulders?
If you used the same logic:
-the overhead press would be a bad movement for the delts because you don’t get a full stretch at the bottom compared to benchpress.
-rows would be bad for lats because you don’t get a full stretch on lats and the resistance curve is hardest in the shortened position
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You have to admit it was creepy the way he was ‘spotting’ her
@@HkFinn83 No, he doesn't.
You need to grow up.
You're the creep, incel.
As a trainer with a degree in Exercise Physiology I whole heartedly agree Dr. Mike. From the warm-up and goal consideration to the ROM and all your other comments. And funny!
i love ur video man so good🔥
I do like that push up progression too as someone who is trying very hard to get my pushups back!!
Thanks for highlighting how weird touching her needlessly was. Especially as beginners some women don’t know what’s normal so calling it out clearly is very helpful
I love these workout critique videos! Keep them coming!
You, sir, have earned a subscriber.
What happened to just squats, deadlifts, lunges. Basics.
Ahhh I am so curious about your opinion on barbell hipthrust vs front foot elevated lunge since bret did a study on the bb hipthrust.
I can see your point with concentric only lifts however I find it great for active recovery.
"this is going to be as hard as it is pointless" I am CRYING dude you are fantastic 😂😂
So you don’t recommend hip thrusts for glute hypertrophy? Because in a RPStrenght article from 2020 you do list them as a top choice for the glutes. Has your opinion changed since then or am I missing something?
she’s using too much weight it’s obviously too heavy, the guy is literally grabbing the bar. you should focus on form not having a buddy lift it for you.
@@HazeLmao Yeah that shot was setup purely to make her look stronger than she actually is. Some people believed she was thrusting 400lbs and every time someone said it I nearly choked on my own vomit
@@Ailieorzxactly. If someone can do 400 lbs hipthrusts, they can do pushups. Those were probably fake weights. Even then, not for a second was she in control of that weight.
@@HazeLmaothat's not the point. He said several times in this video that hip thrusts themselves are not optimal.
This is entertaining, thank you.
I do all my warming up and “activation” exercises for the week on Monday that way I can just jump right into heavy workouts every other day.
One thing I will say is that I have seen a good benefit from doing some different warmup exercises to activate muscles that stabilize movements in which they are acting as antagonists to the prime movers. For example, I typically do a few lightly loaded pulling movement for my upper back and lats before bench pressing as it helps me activate a mind-muscle connection that makes it easier for me to fully retract and pin my shoulder blades when pressing.