Chrome Paint for beginners Bob it'sagunpla Ross
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- I am now currently Sponsored by newtypehq.com/
Promo code: ITSAGUNPLA to save 10%
RE/100 Type 89 Base Jabber
bit.ly/2Z0gVFK
→Mah Links←
Twitter ►goo.gl/2cS0uX
Twitch ► / itzagundam
Twitch ► / xiltix
Instagram►goo.gl/6kcLrD
Music ►goo.gl/W5ENUL
Patreon► / itsagundam
E-mail ► gundamprozac@gmail.com
PodCasts ►goo.gl/CEPVab
Channel Art ► www.artstation...
Kit►goo.gl/xqM9HT
Fanatical ►goo.gl/D4FSZ8...
t-shirts by Studio Kasumi ►goo.gl/NAsUUu
All the stress is getting to you, you're finally allergic to internet drama. Relaxing vid as usual, thanks man.
It's killing me...
The sound of gundams voice is so relaxing. I don't build models and dont know crap about paint but I can still listen to him talk about this stuff for an hour straight lol
Cemetery Lady Me too!
And this is why you are an excellent resource for gundam builders all across the world!
WHy do I love these videos?!
Why am I so invested in the Chrome Saga?
The only thing I was thinking while watching this video, is wow it's pretty hard to nail a perfect mirror finish, and I see at lest 3 more videos coming out of this one.
Gundam the Vox Addpacalypse is sweeping RUclips. I sincerely hope you remain unaffected. but now might be a good time to paint robots dude.
Fingers crossed, I had to put the kill on videos I had planned.
Only been building for 5 months, and just 1 month of painting. These tips in real world situations (not having the best of the best of the best...) are super helpful for me as a beginner..
Great video Gundam, was really informative. I think I may have to use the koong for more battle worn gunpla and the spazstix for more newer looking kits
just wait till you get the gaia chrome your gonna love it, probably the best looking chrome in my opinion
was waiting for this video after seeing the instagram post, keep the content coming man
The Floor wax you are referring to is not a wax but a type of acrylic sealant used to coat floor surfaces to protect them from damage by creating a layer to harden the surface from wear and dirt.
It was called
Pledge Future Floor Wax but its call Revive Floorcare now.
But its great over any type of paint acrylic to lacquer to enamel.
It don't react with the paint.
Also good for protecting clear parts from scratch and super glue frosting for the glue casing a frosted look to them will also help to fill scratches and clear up scratched clear parts.
It can be diluted with alcohol and ammonia (Windex will work for cleaning airbrushes)And most times it needs no thinning.
It works well for chipping if you place a layer of the revive over each layer,
then use a diluted Windex and your tool of choice for the effect..
It also seals decals to smooth the edges and level the paint surface with the decal then another layer to seals the decal.
The last point was Price where are you gonna find a better semi gloss clear coat for less than 10 and it be enough to last a year or more ...nowhere!
No joke, this is the exact video I was looking for. Thanks for the upload, it’s much appreciated.
Perfect tone, great delivery! Now take us on a Kit Build Journey!
I love Bob it'sagunpla Ross.
The MCM powder looks great, just needs a finishing option
A bit late, but with these pigments, brushing off the excess with a soft-tipped brush will do the trick (or just really rub it with rubber gloves on)
Alclad is the best hands down. Just completely unforgiving to surface imperfections. If your worried about durability, just clear it with a acrylic gloss like they suggest.
This channel is underrated
I use nail powder for nails and getting a mirror shingle is best done using a silicone brush for application as well as a uv gel topcoat to prevent streaking.
The floor polish you refer to is pledge revive it floor gloss. Lots of people use it to increase clarity on clear parts and windows as well as a gloss coat. The main benefits are no thinning is necessary, it doesn't yellow like most model clearcoats, you get a lot for a few dollars, and it has a pleasant smell. I prefer gunze gx100 and color leveling thinner, but the floor polish works in a pinch.
Don't know if your in the Bay Area, but Hobbies Unlimited in San Leandro sells Alclad ii paints.
for the chrome powder. you just need to apply it with a very soft material, try using a cotton ball = no haze
Alclad gloss black is an enamel. The modelling community concludes that roughly 50% of all gloss black batches made by them will NEVER cure. Flawed batches.
Other products you could review:
Uschi Models also has a chrome powder. It might have a more competitive price, depends where you live i guess.
The floor shine that people use is called Future floor polish, and i advise to NEVER USE IT. Because inconsistent results. Sometimes it will crack, looking like a dried riverbed.
The best gloss ive seen used is from GSI Creos (aka Mr hobby, Mr Color, Gunze Sanyo) and its called Mr Color Super Clear. For some reason they have "Super clear III" and "Super clear II UV Cut" etc.
Its a lacquer, so stinky to spray like alclad.
That makes perfect sense! I have found the black gloss by alcolad to be a real pain in the dick!
Uschi is that the german powder?
Good thing I've never used the future polish.
the super clear III flat is my favorite top coat.
Yea its false labelling. A company called "alclad lacquers" sells an enamel that isnt labelled as such. You could probably replace it with a cheaper gloss black enamel thats better quality from even Testors, since enamels are their bread and butter. alclad use an enamel because of the long drying time working better for gloss finishes.
Uschi is swiss i think? Its not a company, its one guy. He normally makes stuff specific to WW1 biplanes. Very fussy about his metal finishes. Very active on facebook and very community focused.
You COULD contact him and MAYBE he could throw you some products to review, especially since the gundam market has almost zero overlap with the market he normally caters to so thats a whole new bunch of potential customers. Even with 10k subs, thats a lot of people compared to other modelling communities so you've got some clout.
Lastly, all the best metallic finishes involve putting actual metal on plastic, whether its from an airbrush, powders or adhesive metal foil. Dont laugh at that last one. its been done, and done well for decades now and for aluminium at least its probably the most convincing, but waaay too much work.
This is also the reason why metallics look like shit when you spray clearcoats over them, because they then look like metal with a clearcoat over it.
Pro tip from 40K land use Molotow Liquid Chrome. It's made for a marker but you can buy 30ml refill on amazon you can squeeze right into your airbrush. Can thin with iso too. Since it is made for markers it is much more forgiving as well.
I totally messed up the first time using chrome on a matte plastic, now this makes sense, using black back gloss until its mirror like then the chrome and then the clear coat. thanks a bunch.
also you can cover alclad chrome with normal rattle can clear coat. just about 3 very dusty light layers before you put any heavy coats on
Ive been trying to think of something to send to the failbox, and I think i got it. Idk if you have a decent respirator and filters for your painting, but i use one at work every day i prefer with a quick release from the face for getting a drink and such. It saves the hassle of pulling the whole damn thing off for a breather.
I am using the 40 dollars 3M Reusable All-Purpose Valved Safety Mask from Lowes.
The 3m valve respirator i was suggesting is already otw with a mess of filters that will show up later. It should be compatible with the filters you have. I also sent a cheap jewlers saw kit for the blades if you got one already. Thank you for your content. I watch it all.
Well shit. My dumbass forgot to change the size, hope it fits lol
So i guess with koongs, apply a gloss coat over your black to get as glossy as possible. Spray, dry then wipe down very lightly. Reference video, Jenic. His jagd Dogga re 1/100 video. His looks amazing.
Just checked more tested needs to be done it seems.
2K clear can actually be thinned and sprayed from an airbrush. It would actually be a 3K process. But your still correct about most people not going this route because when they have to go to an autobody supply store and pay around $150 for the clear, the activator, and reducer to thin it enough to airbrush they will probably buy floor wax. I am fortunate enough to have access to real car clear and I haven't tried it on chrome I can tell you how awesome it looks over real car paint. I get my paint mixed at an autobody paint store and I have them mix me 4 oz. of an actual color from the year and make of the model using paint color chip books
Did the same test. Between Alclad, Gaia, Spaz and a couple different ones from Mr. Color. Came to the same conclusion, Alclad Gloss Black base + Alclad Chrome wins. Spaz Stix is a close second.
Gaia Metal Masters Thinner is amazing. Mainly only used for other Gaia or Mr. Color laquers that need to be thinned.
One of my personal favorite options are from the Molotow chrome paint marker line. They provide a nearly perfect mirror chrome effect right out of the gate, plus the chrome ink can be hand painted (with a paint brush or straight from the marker tip) instead of having to rely on an airbrush - however, that hasn't stopped some people from using the ink through an airbrush anyways
Oh the 2k urethane clear really is insane (I think I send you a video of a South Korean using Gaia and that) and The Scalemodeling Channel uses all the time too, always look like a mirror but it costs an arm and a leg lol
molotow chrome is by far the best ive come across..they sell a "refill" bottle and its sprayable.its like liquid mirror
have you tried Molotow Liquid Chrome Pump Marker Pen i use them on my 40k stuff and it make a mirror finish ive seen some people use them on gundams you can also get a refill bottle of just paint.
its so shiny its crazy!
ignore me i just got to the end of the video lol ill leave the commet up to tell youtube you are the best!!!
Going to an anime con soon might pick me up some Gundam models if I have the cash. Though bills and livin be taking my money.
My favorite was the silver one.
I like Molotow, it's easy to spray with no base required. However, the dry time is super long before you can spray a high gloss clear over it. Also it is expensive, but can be thinned with lacquer thinner. The technique is to spray to cover all at once, light coats don't get good results for some reason.
Could the haze be from the chemical reaction from the black paint?
Awesome video as always,thx for the beginners guide
Just a tip for you the MCM chrome powders are just graphite powder... so you can buy graphite pencils and blend them into a powder and BOOM instant chrome powder, no more importing frm taiwan
51:34 This part makes me smile everyday and say "I'm not a guy!"
Ummm...yes I watch this video everyday cause it's my favorite. ❤️
Lmfao.. thanks for the idea of using my hvlp gun to clear my gunpla chrome pieces. After clearing a car I can have my gunpla setup and use what’s left in the cup for that. Hahahhahaha.
Hope it turns out good!
Thanks for the idea.
I love this channel
Hi 'Gunpla' (I guess... 😊)
Been airbrushing for 5 years now, 1st one I airbrushed was the MG Destiny Full Burst or someting like that. The one with the wing effect parts and the 2 mechie chrome plated runners.
I stripped the chrome using thick bleach. Worked excellent btw.
Could not stand the nubs on the knees for example.
So 5 years ago I started the journey you are taking now.
At that time I thought the best product was Alclad.
It is a hoaks that stuf.
One needs to put on a very thin layer. This so the black underneath it shows through.
That is way when you watch your video at the 9.20 min mark, you can clearly see how dark they really are. From the right angle our eyes get tricked.
Also using their Aqua glos klear (what's up with the spelling😂 (too thin, runs like the day after burrito day😆)) or Pledge /Johnson Future Gloss brongs problems when wanting to do a candy effect as that stuff is really weak....
I've also tried chrome powder, the name slips my mind (got glucome medicine😉), but there is an Austin Martin in Chrome on the cartboard box and some green I believe it was.
I guess it acts the same way as your expencive powder, I believe it is from the UK.
They recommend a second layer of the powder after buffing the first for a better effect. Maybe it helps for your powder too...?
Bit what I teally came here for is tellin you that you need to give Molotow a go.
Damn, I have to copyright that: Give Molotow a go!😊
Dilute the stuff with Mr Leveling Thinner (That Gaya stuff might be a sort of simular product with a retarding agent in it), can't tell you the ratio as I eyeball it bit be sure to mix it outside the airbrush.
Especially if your nozzle is of the longer type as mine by Wave.
It might not mix correct as the paint wants to fall through the tinner in the cup, leaving you with un-thinned paint in the nozzle making the brush sputter.
Them guys with nasty results did not thin it correctly.
A fellow RUclipsr which I highly respect did some tests with the Molotow, handpainting and airbrushing.
The latter not having good results, admittingly that he didn't dilute it.
I did and it looks the best from all the products I have used.
Painted a white plastic spoon with it, no gloss black (enamel) undercoat, just sprayed on.
Two to three coats, the firt being the thacky one, the other two rather thick, keeping the whole surface wet. If one spot dries and gets overspray from the next stroke you'll have to go over that spot again.
As soon as you spray it on it looks great! No need for buffing.
Fooled everyone in thinking it was a metal spoon.
There is only one small downside...
It only takes an enamel (!!!!!!!!) clear coat and that will dull it down in tone, not in sheen (Not the Charlie or Martin one and surley not Emelio😊).
It is wel worth the money. I diluted some in a old Alclad Chrome bottle and still have enough in the refill pen for 1.5 bottles more, so in comparisson it's not that expencive (maybe that's only if you have to import the Alclad, no idea how much a bottle goes for in the States).
If I may suggest looking for: the Mokonaman also on RUclips?
His name is Alan and has some exellent video's about airbrushing, rather in depth paint subjects, like type of paint, what they are made of, how to dilute and much more.
For some vids you have to do a little digging as they are rather old (they where a few moons old when I watched them 5 years ago) but are very woth it!
I hope this helps you and others out in their quest for a mirror chrome!
P.s., I keep saying dilute and not thin. Nor using only the word 'thinner', but clearly say enamel thinner or acrilic thinner.
In the past I watched a lot o Gunpla TV and they showed the panel line wash with enamels.
They keps saying thinner and over here (NL) that means cellulose based thinner (I know😔) and needles to say I was happy I tried that on a old fodder kit... Try explaining that to an old timer in modeling without a huge laugh😅
Happy building!
I'll give it a shot.
Just use the MCM powder from the residue on the inside of th lid once you shake it, you have to shake it alot when reloading your brush the pigments settle big time in the powder same as the metalizers I use the stuff from the lid once I shake it as metalizers eat the plastics on models but this stops it if you don't use it straight from the bottle it's hard to explain I'll maybe have to do a video when make my new modeling channel
Thanks very much for this most informative video by far. I just received my Spaz Stix chrome, and Spazs black backer.
you can use the automotive, catalysed clearcoats with any spray gun. the real pain is the mixing of at least three components in those very small amounts: laquer, hardener, thinner (and uv absorber in my case)
UV is something nobody talks about. Leave those spoons outside a couple of weeks and see what they look like. Lol
THERE'S A GUNDAM DOWN HERE!
Why not use a white primer/base paint to accentuate the brightness of the chrome? I do a yellow-ish base for gold colors, do I know what I am doing?
MCM powder is a short copy of the Kosutte Ginsun, which is superior in finish and gloss, its ranking is not complete, perhaps the most important was missing.
I recognize those mobile suits from Gundam XXXXVII The Flatware Wars
xD but nice vid G
Hey gundam, how about using Molotow chrome paint?
Revan Rushardi they have airbrush paint? I have only seem the markers.
@@thebigbient8736 only marker as far as i know. But you can use the refill on air brush (cmiiw)
Revan Rushardi I see, Thank you!
@@thebigbient8736 your welcome
didn't feel like cracking open my marker to try it.
Thanks for the video. Is alclad resistant to handling? Should I use a clear coat on top? How does this affect to the mirror finish?
Thanks
how do i paint gloss black like that? I can't achieve that :( it's hard, tell me how please
Deadass just dump a Molotow liquid chrome pen into your airbrush and the results are surprising.
Nvm
Couldn't you put some of that mcm powder into a medium and spray it? Or am I just high on paint...
Have you tried Molotow Liquid Chrome?
I am horrible at spray painting. Just used the rattle can spaz black backer, waiting for it to cure.. I have some orange peel and slight runs. Any way to fix? Maybe wet sand 3000 grit before mirror chrome? I really hate painting because I am SO bad at it.
Have you tried createx quick silver chrome?
And just for so added information you don’t need an automotive spray gun to spray 2K clear coat. I get the cheapest 2K system from a local automotive paint supply store and for $30 I get 1 quart of clear with a half pint of activator plus $13 for the cheapest reducer. I mix it 4:1:1 @ 20 psi and it levels out perfectly.
Does it matter what black base you use? I've seen some black bases with a reflective finish.
this mcm stuff looks perfect for what i need, but i can not find at all on the internet, i did find some alternatives like C1 Metalizer or Kosutte Gin Sun, but both of those cost >$60 so i might just go with a spray
Ima use this on my 00 gundam thank u
Did you use anything specific to get that really good gloss black? If anyone else has suggestions to get a perfect gloss black I'm all ears. Thanks in advance
For a guy too broke for an airbrush setup, whats a good chrome for brush on or a good chrome spray paint
How much did you have to thin the paints down before using?
What i hate about chrome painting is i cant wait for the black enamel base to dry cause im.excited to make shit shiny
Can you use the mcm powder without a black base for a thrusters for example?
What kind of gross work better with Spaz Stix - Ultimate Mirror Chrome Aerosol Paint
Been waiting for Bob to upload again and its a doozy! Thanks BOb! How did you get the koongs though??? Bro i bought like $500 of gaia from newtype this last week. Using GunplaMeli code of course lol jk ITSAGUNPLA all day! 😂
Thanks for the video! Quick question. Is Spaz Stix lacquer paint to as Alclad? Here is cheaper than Alclad so thinking of buying that but not sure if it is the same paint and if it is safe to use in gundam given that is promoted for RC and not for gundam. Thanks!
The black paint of the principle is a gloss black common?
Have you tried a gloss silver base for the alclad? Also have you tried a plastic primer to make your paint more durable? Finally have you tried doing multiple (say 4-6) coats of the chrome so you can do a proper polish?
Spaz Stix has their own clear coat for chrome, I'm curious if you could compare the aqua gloss to that?
Would there a difference if you put some clear color over the mirror vs chrome?
Know if alaclad store ship to other countrys cuz where i live they only bring very low quality mr color paints and i hate it no matter what i cant get a good mirrior like or candy coat on my gunpla
I'm extremely disappointed with Spaz Stix, I've seen many videos of it and multiple how to before I purchased it and I think I got a really bad batch because I did everything as directed with both the black backer and the chrome itself and I always got a brushed aluminum look instead of chrome. Then I learned that the main ingredient to a good chrome doesn't come from the chrome paint itself but the black back which is suppose to be a gloss finish. And the backer I had was no where near gloss, more of a satin.
Can you use the alclad mirror chrome for die-cast cars
Should get yourself some Molotow it's great. Little pricey. But doesn't need a black base can straight spray it. Does require a 12 hour cure time to paint over it.
have you tried molotow liquid chrome? its nothing like air brush but its quite an insane paint mixture in the markers.
i should've waited till the end of the video. : D
But it is pronounced molotoff
car guys spray 2K trhou8gh airbrush all the time. the real issue with it is it's very toxic. you need good ventilation AND (not or) a good respirator. Been building cars / sci-fi for 5 years now and I'm still searching for a good chrome option :(
Max Paint?
Great video! I'm still figuring this process out. Trying to be patient. I've probably wasted a few bottles of alclad just trying to master this
MAMA MIA THIS IS SOME FUCKING WHOLESOME CONTENT
Thought on Vallejo paints? I paint a lot of GW models and looking to get into Gunpla and was wondering if those colors are ok?
Do those chrome paints work with transparent surfaces? For example, make a subtle color shift in a transparent surface, not crazy but noticeable.
There is a Taiwanese paint Modo Super Chrome (Search RUclips for it). It is the easiest mirror finish Chrome paint I have ever tried. As long as the black is glossy and smooth enough I dont think you can fail a perfect mirror finish, I mean failing with this paint is rather difficult and would require exceptional skills.
hi, i got the c-1 metalizer, it works just like the powder you are showing, first, DO NOT USE A DREMEL BUFFER WITH THAT. i tried a rotary buffer with the c-1 and it burned it and ruined the whole thing. you want the cotton pads or q-tips and buff it by hand. you have to buff the powder and it will mirror more. i did c-1 metalizer on my grimore red berret model. and the crome was amazing untill i clear coated it with flat paint. lesson learned, but it was a mistake that made my model look amazing. anyways thats my bit on the powder. DO NOT DREMEL IT... YOU WILL BE SORRY. :D
So as a beginner would you recommend just using alcald II? love i found this channel very helpful btw
What kind of glass do you use
....so where do u buy like all these
Have you ever tried ak interactive extreme metal? Their chrome works same like alclad, just a bit more forgiving. And their Gauzy shine enhancer also does a greatjob clearcoating it.
What about all of the spray on "chrome" finishes they use for motorcycle and car parts lately like Alsa easychrome? It should be really cheap for small parts.
I was wondering about Alclad paints before, but wasn't sure if those paints aren't too strong for plastic. Would it be fine to use Tamiya Enamel as a base for them?
I use them all the time on plastic kits.
Have you tried to add the MCM powder to a solvent like an inter coat clear?
I need to set up an airbrush this all looks too much fun.
hi there...what black base do you use??
scratch that you said alclad...so what do you use now alclad black base is no longer available?
can see u face in the spoon :]
im new to this kinda stuff. why would you want to do chrome on a gunpla? can you base a kit with chrome and make a color over look "chrome" or shiny?
I think of you do a thin enough coat of use the "transparent" paints you could do that to make it look like it's all shiny chrome metal for the mobile suit
Hey Gundam, is your P.O. box located at a U.S. post office or a UPS store ???
What is "buffing"? Simply light wiping?
Any chance you'd come back to this and give a followup with the Gaia stuff?
great rewiew thank you vm