Protecting Alclad Chrome - 14 Clear Coats Tested - Is There A Clear Winner??
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- On a quest to find the best protection for Alclad and many other brands of chrome I test out many different clears to see who comes out the best. Is it still Aqua Gloss? For the record, what you see tested in this video will also work on most chrome paints out there including Molotow, Spaz Stix & Gaia.
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you are doing god's work with these reviews!
Thanks my friend, I'm doing my best 👌
My man you outdid yourself! Thanks a million for taking the time some of us don't have to perform these tests. I'm glad to see that my go-to Pledge didn't disappoint. For the price, everyone should get a bottle. Thanks again and cheers!👍
but they are the most fragile and tend to pool along gravity. but yes my go to but with soft brush only so big areas would be tough.
I did my Mando helmet in Alclad II Chrome. I used the Alcad Aqua Gloss to seal and protect it. The Aquagloss does kind of dull the chrome due to the fact that it dries very porous. After the aquagloss dried, I went over that with 2K Clear. It brought back a lot of the chrome luster(about 70%) because it settles into the porous areas of the aquagloss and still dries smooth as glass, and made my mando helmet look awesome.
Love 2K clear, it's like magic
Just bought that on YOUR recommendation! You were right - it is brilliant over Molotow, you would not know it had been coated!
Thank you!
I know this is an older post, but thanks again! I have spent a year testing various chromes, golds, and trying to find a clear that will not kill the chrome effect. I would love to see you compile all your chrome, golds, and clearcoats, into a face off. Which of the best is THE BEST! Both for ease and cost.
That E7 is very impressive.
As others have mentioned Id like to see it over Molotow airbrushed that would be a very handy video.
Thank you so much for doing these reviews they truly are invaluable
Rex, love your videos! Very informative and well presented. I am a retired USAF Pilot and have started building model aircraft at the age of 67! I love it. I have gotten Alclad II paints but have only used it on 2 aircraft with mixed results. I found out one thing for sure. Do all your glue up before you apply Alclad even when you Aqua gloss it because Tamiya thin cement immediately eats through the finish upon the slightest touch!
For sure, Alclad is the last thing you do
I've been using pledge floor gloss over my chromes for a while now. I mixed some food dyes and alcohol dyes in it too to mimick candy paints for my PokeBall. Pledge is so good for the price.
I never considered that as a possible alternative to clear colors. Gonna have to give it a shot.
this video is so perfectly timed, I'm painting a whole lot of chromes right now and needed to know this
Here I am a novice air brush user and started this month with ABrushing. Wanted to paint a model in Chrome. LHS (Vancouver Canada) recommends Alclad II Chrome. I didn't by Alclad Clear though as he said I didn't need to. I did buy Vallejo Polyurethane Gloss Varnish from another shop and didn't know if that would work over the Alclad. Your video just proved it does. Thank you for doing what you do. 🙏 You are so willing to share your experience with the YT community and that is... priceless. Thanks again!
can't wait for the floor polish video I have one sitting in my room not being used and want to know how to clean it out my AB
8ve been using it for 20 years. I use Tamiya paints. So when I'm done, I'll spray a little Tamiya lacquer thinner thru the brush then Windex. Never had an issue.
Many thanks for your time and research mate, saving us modellers untold time and mistakes 🇬🇧👍👌
Thanks buddy I'm doing my best. 👍🇺🇲
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Each video I watch literally answers every question I had. Great videos.
Thanks Lenny
Excellent video!
Takeway: Acrylic over solvent-based metallic. (Been painting since the 1970's so learned this early on after spending many hours painting a Late Imperial Roman vexellum of Constantine using metallic paint; let it dry 2 days; sprayed with a solvent-based gloss and watched the metallic reactivate and begin to run! Since then, always coated first with a good gloss acrylic and never had an issue again.)
There are some excellent metallic paints and pigments coming out of Spain from Vallejo Metal Color and Green Stuff metal pigments.
I use to be a cleaner. We strip and seal floors. The sealer was a milky colour, but dry clear. U got remember the amount people walk across the floor. There different quality of sealer. I remember looked like glass. I watch people walk across, thinking they were going slip over. But it was over double the price. Great video mate, cheers Graham
Thanks so much for doing all this work so we don't have to. Greatly appreciated!
Thanks for being so transparent with your viewership
I picked up the Vallejo Polyurethane gloss clear based on this review, and it's pretty amazing! Thinned 50:50 with Golden Airbrush Medium and it levels out so beautifully that you can get a mirror finish without even polishing. I can't see any difference in shine over any of my metallic or chrome paints. Definitely a winner - thanks for the review!
FWIW activated carbon filters should be put into a zip lock bag to ensure the activated carbon stays active for as long as possible. HOWEVER with lacquer or non catalyzed paints it is really not very much of an issue. YOUR local autobody supplier (mine is FINISHMASTERS) has 3m paint respirators in a variety of sizes for approx $25.
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There's so much out there products wise and can be very confusing for the humble beginner like me ! Your video's are just fantastic and the testing results will certainly help me on the right direction for my modelling techniques and finish results.Looking forward of seeing the pledge revive it floor gloss full review.
Great review again Rex. Very impressed with both the E7 and Future. BTW future is so hard to find here in Australia and I finally found a supplier but $40A a bottle .. ouch.
i had a look at the E7 range of paints online and they have a very comprehensive range so looking forward to your test of these. Thanks again for all your work you do to keep us all informed.
Thanks Barbatos for the information. I will have to get some pledge for gloss coat.
I would like to see you perform the same test with Spaz Stix and Molotow as well. Maybe even with Createx Quicksilver Chrome.
Very useful. Clear coats became a fixation to me. But quality today is awesome in general compared to the 90's.
I have clear coats that became totally yellow. And other clear coats the never dried (they were all enamels those days except tamiya acrylics)
One note. I bought Microgloss years ago because I read a tutorial that was very positive about it. The days after the purchase I read another tutorial saying the opposite! You proved to anyone that is a quite good clear coat instead! Sometimes people says bad thing about products just because they are not good in painting. IMHO
I just had very distressing flash backs because of that Pledge floor polish.
When I did my phase 1 army training we were made to clean our shared room with toothbrushes (this was a very large room) and when we'd cleaned the floor we had to polish it with that polish. We had to polish the floor using no more than one sheet of toilet roll, if we used that sheet (which is inevitable as wet big roll falls apart and goes even faster if you rub it against something) we were given another sheet but only after we'd earned it by doing 200 press ups! I couldn't lift my arms for days after this, it was a ery inventive way of ensuring that no one in that platoon got really drunk while on leave! Sod you Corporal Beasley!
Thanks Rex….. as always!!!!!!!
You're welcome buddy 👌
I think the E7 is actually better than the original. Glad I found your channel, I have figures like silver surfer and swords I've chromed with a chrome pen, but couldn't find a way to seal them without dulling. I just don't touch them at all, in areas where a blemish is not so noticeable.
Try a water based Acrylic clear (on scrap). For me they have held up over time & skin oils may be wiped off with a microfiber cloth. My experience, water based clears don't "attack" silver or chrome paints. I also tried a white stain on wood window trim with a water based polyurethane. The clear did not yellow the white stain as solvent based clears did over time.
I'm gonna get the pledge then. The amount you get is ideal for me because of this helmet I'm working on. Thanks for the video! EDIT: Actually nevermind. It's discontinued. Any left in stock are sold at insanely high prices
Hey Rex, great job!! This video from now is my reference in works with Alclad Chrome.
Thanks for your time and excellent explanation.
Astounded again on how thorough you are in your reviews
Thanks, I do these based on what I personally want to know myself. There's so many products for each step of model building you always just want to get the best for the job. Seeing them play out in real time is the best way for that 👍
I bet you have an absurd amount of paint and supply’s! I literally can’t imagine how many full lines of paint you have in a box somewhere. Love these videos, keep it up!
All I could say is --Thank you!!
I also did the same test with some chrome colors and gloss varnish few days ago and I found that the oil gloss(such as GX100)are terrible for the chrome, ,AV gloss metal varnish and AK Gauzy did much better but they are still not good enough. I really wish could watch your video earlier.🥲
You're welcome buddy 👍glad I could help
As a follow up Barbatos Rex, I have been experimenting with using a very light coat of Aqua Gloss to "seal" chrome paints (AK Extreme Metal Chrome), and then go over with a 2K clear gloss. It seems to work well, giving a durable chrome finish, but I am still wary about the health issues associated with 2K clears (Even with using a spray booth & respirator mask). There is lots to be said for keeping things simple!
You sold me on the respirator. Just ordered it! (Currently $22.99)
It's been great. Most of the time you won't even need the extra pads, the main filters are enough for what we do.
Testor's Model Master is gone, Rust-O-Rum discontinued the line of paints. I loved these paints. They're only keeping the Enamel line (small square bottles) of paints.
Carbon filters or 2 stage filters are for paint fumes (paint V.O.C.s). Single stage filters are mostly dust only filtration. Read the box or call manufacturer to ask. Use listings on box not always clear. Most masks have sizes - small, medium & large.
AK Gauzy Intermediate Shine used by Matchbox & Hot Wheels restorers after polishing windshields to add clarity.
My experience with solvent based clears is they attack top layer of metallic paints. Acrylics don't. I use the UV Cut clear for my outdoor train models. UV light breaks down the chemical bond causing yellowing & flaking.
My airbrushes are Passche, Grex & Chinese made brands.
The Pledge seems to work for everything. Good video.
Gday, thanks for the video. I come to your video late but confirms my thoughts. I am going to use an Alclad type Autopaint for a car body kit. Everyone complains of dulling on clear coat. I have come to the conclusion to prime, 2k black gloss base, chrome paint, water based clear coat, 2k clearcoat.
Great review as always. Thanks for taking the time to put these together, as I am sure they take a lot of work to do.
Great test, but I was hoping to see a bumper from a car kit up against these spoons. Ultimately, that is the frame of reference for us auto builders.
Next I think a lot of us would like to see you do the same test video using Molotow Chrome.
Thanks for your time on this much appreciated… build on 👍
Target, Walmart, Safeway, Costco you name it. Looked for that Pledge everywhere and was finally lucky enough to find one last bottle in a local hardware store in SF. I think it was 9.99 but who cares still great value. Now that I see it’s discontinued, I’m gonna have to use the rest of it sparingly.
I knew pledge was going to perform perfectly, I've used it before also Future floor polish does good too.
Gosh, man, what a huge test :O many thanks for that!! And your revelation about E7, thanks for sharing!!
Chrome finishes are just too delicate and lacquer thinners are too hot. Lacquers always damage the chrome and turn it into more of a metal flake or candy base. I actually plan to do a whole car in a candy over chrome for a future build and my tests show I have to put an aqua gloss between the candy and the chrome. This was a really handy video. I may have to investigate that Vallejo Poly. I usually avoid Vallejo for airbrushing. Thanks for all the info.
I’m new to this stuff and I’ve been going through your videos. Just wanted to say thanks for all of the helpful info!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. If you ever have a question on anything just ask
Thank you for testing all these clears! Very helpful and informative.
I'm impressed by that E7 brand. First time I hear of it.
Thanks for this, looking forward to seeing the pledge shoot off
Thanks por this superb guide! Much appreciated.
Thank you for watching my friend 👍
WTH, Pledge, dam, thank you for this video test. I need to go out and try this.
You can also use a napkin in front of your filter to catch the majority of the overspray to protect your filters.
I'm currently in the testing phase of Astands and AK chrome. Planning to do clear coat testing next week once the paint dries. Will use the Klear Kote Gloss and the Gunze Supergloss 3. Gonna wet sand them and polish them if they dull the shine.
Outstanding work!! Thank you so much for this informative video. Kudos to you Mr. Barbatos Rex.
Absolutely outstanding video review!!! Thanks from ukrainian modelers!!!
Hello Ukrainian modelers, welcome to my channel. A warm thanks from the USA 👍
Great test video as always! I greatly appreciate what u do for our hobby!
Loving these vids, BR! I have yet to have good luck with lawn furniture paint on my model cars. I tested a gloss yellow several times on an old hood with Krylon and had poor results. Gloss looked like semi gloss.
Thanks for the reviews. By far the best.
Thank you Juan, it's much appreciated
Great to see the e7 paints clear is the winner. Surprised the x22 enamel didnt work well on alclad, but works on molotow
Thank you very much!
Thats crazy.. haha i just wish PLedge would be sold here in Holland (Netherlands) 😥
Thanks for the time and effort you put into these video's, much appriciated !!
It seems that water-based clears are the best since they do not have solvents that damage the chrome.
Try some water-based polyurethane for wood that you can find inexpensive at your local home supply stores.
I know people are asking about Molotov and I know that I am really happy with the fact that it has a great look initially but if I so much as look at it after the initial application all bets are off and the chrome has fizzled away to a more aluminum finish this is after accidentally making contact with it or trying to brush it on don’t know if it was meant for hand painting, but if you are inclined to do something including hand painted Molotov it would be nice to see.
I'll try it over Molotow soon for you guys
The main problem with any solvent based clear is that it has a tendency to lift the metallic finish it sits on. ive learned this the hard way. Its because to make the metallic paint look metallic, it doesnt have the a strong binding agent to keep the particles down. That vehicle used for the metallic just isnt strong enough to withstand any enamels or lacquers and their solvents. Ive learned this the hard way with non model projects too. Before i watched this i was going to put my money on any of the water based acrylics especially the pledge. It doesnt attack the metallic paint below it and dries clear and shiny. Im willing to bet Polycrylic would work pretty well.
Pledge floor gloss has recently been discontinued. Have there been any other developments for quick price efficient gloss alternatives?? The prices for it are through the roof so double checking before I spend any money.
Revive it replaced future floor polish i love it i bought the e7 a few months back it amazing always a great review thank you
Great video and testing, thank you for the information!
Great video! Props to you for your effort. Well done.
Thank you Carl and thanks for watching
The E-7 actually did straighten out the workshop lights from the untreated chrome reflection, wow! Great video, you found the answer sir.
I just ordered some E7. I have the Aqua Gloss but it's good to have an alternative.
This was a FANTASTIC cover! I have been fighting this top coat killing chrome shine dilemma . This ANSWERED my questions. Spaz stix also has a ULTIMATE Clear coat for chrome. But was said to kill the shine. Thanks a heap...new to your videos. STLL trying to find Aquarium filter sheets...not mats. Please send a link. Cheers, Richard
Your chrome tests are the best, u can also do another coat of chrome over the duller gloss spoons to get the chrome back.
Great video mate, really needed this. Thanks !
Great review, thanks. I've been using a water based product with the generic name "Interior/Exterior Varnish" (both gloss and matte) which is Hobby Lobby's house brand I believe. I've had good luck with on car bodies; not sure how it would perform in your chrome test. It is $9.99 for an 8 ounce bottle. I'm still very new to this level of modeling which is why I appreciate all the work you do; thanks again.
Thank You for this most excellent video.
Did you test the durability of any of these coatings? Which ones are the most durable and hold up to wear and tear the best?
I'm looking for something to protecting game miniatures.
The Vallejo sounds promising, but I don't know how durable it actually is...how hard of a protective coating does it dry to?
Thanks again! Saved money Saved time
Another clear finish to try is Minwax Polycrylic (thinned 15% with water for spraying). Haven't tried it myself yet but reports say results are good over chrome.
Thank you!!!! What did you use for the base coat and any plans to do this with Alumaluster?
Rex, I hope you make out OK with the hurricane possibly heading your way. Take care
It's on its way 😰 I deliver for Shipt and Instacart part time so I won't be driving then. If I don't lose power I guess I can shoot a video. Paints are arriving tomorrow 👍
Appreciate all your work!
Dude, you rock! so helpful
I do rock, metal that us 😎👍
I love how informative your videos are. Thank you so much for your time and being so thorough. I was wondering If it would be possible for you to do a video on just using various floor polishes. I recently tried to find the Pledge Revie It product but it looks like it is no longer being produced. I did find it online but it's like 65 bucks. I was looking for some alternatives like Quickshine or some other readily available brands.
Vallejo polyurethane failed for me. It made the chrome cloudy. Most of it wiped off like dust but killed much of the reflectivity. I asked Vallejo what happened and they suggested the high solvents in Alclad didn't play nice with the polyurethane.
A very useful video! Quite a good result from the pledge :-)
Does this video hold up? Is E7 still your favorite?
really cant believe the Vallejo gloss varnish looks so good, i dont know what i did wrong when i tried it a few years ago as mine looked awful
Very interesting vidéo... I am a lure maker and clearcoat on chrome is a pita
Thank you for sharing...
Do you think the thinner in the lacquer paints is reactivating the Alclad II? Seems like that might be why every lacquer gloss had the same results.
I think your right. I read that somewhere, however the best one here, the E7, I thought was a lacquer as that's all the company produces for their paints. I'll have to double check on that. The E7 Chrome Sealer is a solvent base I know that
The problem is alclad chrome was good ten years ago. But nowadays there are so many more better chromes to use. The best you can get with alclad now is a bright silver look.
If you don't mind, could you please list a couple of the better ones?
Great information, thanks! 🙂👍
Another great video! So I'm going Aqua II over Mototow. Thanks!
Great test! You missed one: alkyd UV clear (i used it for a car rims)
It figures that the one that is hardest to get and most expensive is the best one ( E7 )
Yeah, USAGundam store carries the E7 lineup including this but of course, of the few out of stock items, Chrome Sealer is one of them.
this is so informative!! Can you add a clear color lacquer on top of the winners to see how they hold out? Thanks for making this amazing video!
I will use some of these spoons for a candy test and see how they fare
Have you ever applied the Alclad Matte Clear Coat to a chrome finish? Always wondered what the actual finished product would look like. Can't seem to find any videos of Alclads Airframe Alluminum and Alclad Matte Clear. Any interest? ☺ Also love your videos, learning a lot and super grateful for the content. 🙌
I tested Alclad Aircraft Aluminum here. It's a favorite of mine. I did spray matte clear over chrome pieces and it comes out like aluminum or a flat silver
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank for the reply! Do you have a video that shows the chrome with the Matte Clear?
The half mask respirator looks like a 3M knock-off, I'd imagine 3M filters would fit it too if you wanted to go branded.
A1 or A2 organic vapour cartridges are what they are called in Europe. I think they are 6003 in the USA. The pre-filter should be a P3 which is best for aerosols. P1 would be pretty pointless for spraying.
When spraying 2K eye and skin protection are a must too.
Great video as usual.
Many, many thanks. Picked up some E7 as I use pretty much only lacquer and very rarely do chrome but when I do👍. The bottom line seems that water or alcohol base tends not to break down the smooth finish but what do I know 😖. Thanks again👍
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Maybe food colouring in the aqua gloss would be like candy or in the pledge. I am doing knee scallops on my gas tank and thanks for saving me time. I am using green stuff world chrome.
Great review Minwax or Pledge is suppose to be a good intercoat for 2K or Epoxy if you need extra toughness
what do you mean by intercoat?
like a step between the chrome base and the final clear?
i’m refinishing vintage boombox chrome over plastic tuning knobs.
i need them to have that chrome look with durability, since they are going to be touched all the time.
will an automotive 2K clear work for chrome? i imagine it would be very durable.
Thank you very much! This was extremely helpful. I used the normal clear from Alclad and that did not give a good result.