Noam Chomsky - The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss - FULL VIDEO
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- In this episode, Lawrence talks with public intellectual, linguist, and political activist Noam Chomsky. Together, they discuss topics ranging from American exceptionalism and foreign policy, to North Korea and Brazil, as well as free speech and Donald Trump.
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The Origins Podcast features in-depth conversations with some of the most interesting people in the world about the issues that impact all of us in the 21st century. Host, theoretical physicist, lecturer, and author, Lawrence M. Krauss, will be joined by guests from a wide range of fields, including science, the arts, and journalism. The topics discussed on The Origins Podcast reflect the full range of the human experience - exploring science and culture in a way that seeks to entertain, educate, and inspire.
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The thing that amazes me the most about Chomsky is his amazing capacity for recall i.e. his memory of detail is truly astounding especially at his age. He's a human encyclopedia.
I've noticed that as well. Just his riff on Emerson at the beginning, a subject which was in no way topical, shows this in action.
this guy is a walking spreadsheet. Unbelievable
Dave unprecedented
This is how I felt for Christopher Hitchens as well. Always knew such an obscure piece of knowledge that seemed like it was going off on a tangent, but he would always have a profound point. But I would say Hitchens was a better orator. Chomsky is certainly a walking encyclopedia, but I feel Hitchens was a walking encyclopedia and thesaurus.
These guys are special. No doubt about it. So well studied, well versed, and have wisdom that went along with their knowledge downloads onto their audiences.
Yeah but that's only part of the equation. Interviews with Chomsky only give Chomsky's view points. Nobody is there to break down his mistakes or add alternative facts counter to Chomsky's. The first question I'd like Chomsky to answer is, what gives anyone the right to run any country? That's in response to Chomsky's what gives America the right to interfere with another country? In Venezuela, for instance, what gives Maduro the right to control Venezuela?
Instead of blaming Maduro for bad policies he blames America for interfering. How does Chomsky rectify Maduro's poor leadership? The answer seems to be let it fester.
Whoever did the recording of Chomsky....THANK YOU!!!!
This podcast is particularly excels with audio and video quality.
This is an aside, but I’m so happy your sound engineer knows how to record Chomsky in his age. As a musician it can be so frustrating on other platforms to hear someone throw up a mic with standard settings on this wonderful but soft-spoken man. The noise floor and plosives shoot through the roof!
Yes! SM7b with the highs rolled off!
Ok I’m stopping my sound rant there.
@thomas thompson your compression and EQ settings will handle a great deal of the stuff Chris is referring to, but reverb and delay (used with restraint) are other basic tools you can use to give depth and body to a vocal mix. The straight signal from microphone to DAW isn't usually going to sound the way you'd like it to sound in its final form, especially with someone who has lots of vocal quirks (speaking of myself in particular, my voice tends to need de-essing, EQ-work to even out nasality, etc). And before you even get to recording, the gear you use and how you setup the gear in the room you're recording in is probably the most important aspect of a recording. The world of sound recording is so much fun and you'll never run out of things to learn!
@nmeunier Fear is a feeling, it does not need a sound justification. If people believe they are under attack, or will be attacked, they will behave that way, even if there is no real reason to believe.
The people of Sparta were known to carry this sort of paranoia, as well. For example, they were reluctant to send their forces too far from home. Even when the risk was low and the reward was high, they were held back by this deep feeling that someone would come to take back this 'stolen' land. So they stayed home, always training and preparing for battle.
@nmeunier Fuck it. Never mind.
but the highs arent rolled off. And the plosives are prevented due to the pop filter
The ear is the best sound tester there is.If it sounds right it is right,as in this case.
(1:32) Introduction
(2:35) Ralph Waldo Emerson quote, Anti-intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hofstadter 1963
(8:12) Moral judgements: Intellectualism
(8:54) Vietnam War, wild men in the wings vs stenographers of power
(17:40) Deconstructing American Exceptionalism, Nuclear missiles and the cognitive dissonance of Russian aggression intervention strategies
(26:45) Venezuelan Sanctions and impeding Chinese economic development
(36:33) Trump's North Korea approach
(41:41) Trump domestic impact, Neoliberal political shift
(49:55) Fear in America
(1:02:15) Syria and Israel
(1:09:55) Oxymoronic missile defense, Iran “threat”
(1:12:10) Free Speech limitations by the left are a gift to the Neofascists
(1:18:10) 1st amendment protects prior restraint, 1960s Civil Rights Movement changed the precedent
(1:24:40) Christianity - The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey 2017
(1:33:25) Domestic terrorism: Right wing or Islamic
(1:45:16) “Useable nuclear weapons” Daniel Ellsberg The Doomsday Machine: Confessions Of a Nuclear War Planner 2017
(1:50:05) Brazil, Jaír Bolsonaro and the disinformation campaign
(1:59:10) Producing writing for society vs linguistics and philosophy
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This format is really good for Chomsky, I usually see videos of him answering individual questions but I like the continual stream of thought.
The Origins Podcast is so unusual and weird, they actually use facts and reality in their talks!
Also no pseudo-science and right-wing victim complex. Joe Rogan should take notes.
Pfff...reality... it'll never catch on, what have facts ever done for us?!
interesting insightful topics and discussion...its actually refreshing
@@Maynard0504 I'm pretty sure joe doesn't care what you think. He's doing fine. Idk why you would compare these two types of podcasts.
@Dog Ma So are you saying that Chomsky's knowledge of history, rights, politics, etc. with referances to articles by professionals on the subject, is made up? By facts I mean his referances to books and articles, and by reality I mean his recollection and knowledge of history. Could you maybe give some examples on what you don't agree with in this video?
I mean, I don't claim to agree with everything in the video. I'm for example sceptic to what Chomsky said about windows and china. That doesn't mean that he didn't use facts and reality in what he said..
Noam 'you were probably in elementary school at the time' Chomsky.
Thank you Mr. Chomsky! Thank you Mr. Krauss!
Dr. Chomsky and Dr. Knauss
Interesting statement by the Maestro:
“Since the Raegan era, both parties moved so much to the right, that when you hear Eisenhower now, he sounds like a Bernie Sanders”
@Bryzz Lull Are you ignorant or just intransigent?
The Flaming Philosopher Doesn’t answer the question but instead just calls other person ignorant
@Bryzz Lull There are simply too many. I'm not talking about an abject wizard of oz here, I'm talking about people at the top of the hundreds of private corporations who make 100x the amount their workers make, which should be seen as theft, nothing else. Currency itself is a lie and used to enslave people. Abraham Lincoln said minimum wage labor is the same as slavery. Who? No, why don't you instead ask how many people are homeless, how many children are hungry, how outrageous costs of healthcare and prescription drugs are, how the majority of the wealth goes to the top of the people in this PLUTOCRACY.
@@Maximilian_1 Because it is true. The answer is right in front of you, all around you. If you can't see it then... what are you other than ignorant or intransigent?
@Bryzz Lull What have they influenced? Elections. Policies. Look at private ownership of the internet, which was developed by the government with tax-payer money! That is the influence. It influences a massive percentage of what people desire. Look at advertising today. Look at what is being done with the internet. Look at the hundreds of commercials of lawsuits about different corporations that knew very well that their products were harmful or even deadly. Look at Johnson and Johnson with the talcum powder. People are born into massive amounts of debt that simply isn't going to be paid back, when the massively wealthy get to sit around on gilded couches and drink thousand dollar wines. Oh yes, this must be saved! The reality is, policies every day are written not for the betterment of the people but specifically for the rich, and psychologists are hired to meticulously craft products and advertisements which brainwash people effectively. It is a massively tangled ball of yarn, and that is what you get with this form of capitalism. Not capitalism in general, for American capitalism is its own breed. There are no rules. Corporations make the rules, and if you disagree... you can join the largest prison population in the world... that's where they will hold you, or you will end up on the streets, maybe to die in a gutter. Who cares? Very few, especially not the rich.
Chomsky remains healthy and full of passion. His desire to keep on top of things has not dulled a single bit. Incredible.
One of the better Chomsky interviews in sometime. Often, Chomsky falls back on his standard responses, and in this interview we are gifted with fresh perspectives.
But it doesn't easily fit between two commercial breaks.
Jim Walker I think of them as well, he is asked many of the same questions, which naturally leads to similar responses, especially if you’re a fan of his, sometimes you can get the impression that the same things are being said it’s not necessarily the case, but hey, in some cases, the same answers are relevant
"History may not repeat itself, but it sure rhymes a lot." --Mark Twain
History repeats itself, first as a tragedy second as a farce (Marx)
Seems like he didn't get the memo while defending and praising Chavez.
And this was way after Chavez was incarcerating judges, political opposition, "kidnappings" and stole private property.
He is as much of a pundit as the next one.
I don't think Mark Twain ever said this but still a great quote.
It's like poetry it rhymes --George Lucas
@@manueltripero He also supported Mao and his mass executions. The guy is an extremist crank to anyone who looks at his record.
The fact that this entire podcast exist at this point in space time is amazing!!
There's no other point in space time than this. It's inevitable, but you can still be amazed : every fact is as common and ordinary as a capricious fortuity
Sooo happy so see and hear Lawrence again! And my beloved Chomsky as well! Wow, I'd say God's heard my prayers if there was one☻ Subscribing and looking forward to more from you🤗 Love ftom Russia x
Yes!! Ive miss hearing your brilliant thoughts. Looking forward to watching every episode you post!
One of the greatest minds of 21st century has a little less than 11,000 views in 4 days, while the presentation of the new Tesla truck in 3 days has more than 5 million views. This is the reality we live in, and governments are glad that people are left to their own stupidity.
Andi G Tesla truck? How about a guy popping balloons with some repetitive music in the background getting tens of millions on views?
There's worse than that look at those so called baloon ass Instagram influencers. They get million likes in an hour of publishing a stupid post
Congratulations on your empty and stupid remark.
you just like these guys because you dont want to read, all they do is regurgitate knowledge , they have no true intellectual insight on anything , they arent here to fix or do anything but get paid they are just as bad as bad corporations. "Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth..." and then you melt
@@sirnunez7923 You think this is all they do? Where is Noam Chomsky on the news? Almost never. He is probably getting paid for his time sometimes. Do you expect him not to be? This is Noam Chomsky we're talking about here... very famous and people do indeed watch him and follow him in the internet.
Chomsky's transformational intellectualism brings together knowledge and wisdom.
Knowledge and wisdom are two separate qualities.
Chomsky possesses lots of the former.
But zero of the latter.
Whatever that means.
@@gypsylips1950 ,
Well that was a nice shot of Chomsky-esque paranoid conspiracy thinking.
But now I will try & bring you back to reality:
Chomsky has spent his career criticizing others in areas that he has NEVER actually worked himself-Which is everything outside Linguistics, and with the great luxury of exploiting 20/20 Hindsight-Hindsight which those whom he criticizes did NOT have at the time!
Which entails ZERO, ' wisdom '! Smh
@@gypsylips1950 "must"
@@gypsylips1950 ,
(SIGH) OK-Time you get a reality check here yourself:
It is precisely Chomsky's status as an, ' academic ', that is his problem!
The man has spent his entire career merely critiquing others, in fields that he has NEVER actually worked in himself!
Nor is there a shred of proof that anything Chomsky has ever said, done, or written, has ever Directly, ' influenced ', any particular issue in this country-Ever!
THIS is the reality about Chomsky!
So please don't try & Shoot the Messenger with misplaced insults, just because you yourself can't face reality here! SMH
Many thanks, LK. Being 1/4 Christian humanist and 3/4 Chomskyist myself, it's great to see the auld yin still in good shape and as sharp as ever. A true father of humanism
Great podcast! I'm forever blown away by Noams knowledge. I'll be back!!! Thanks
I’m so happy this popped up on my RUclips algorithm. I wish it happened earlier.
yeah wtf! I follow a lot of these type of things and watch BOTH these guys a lot... yet I got no recommendation until now. Fuck you RUclips... sometimes you know me better than my wife... and sometimes you're a complete stranger.
you are a stooge!
@@halfalligator6518 you are a stooge!
Yes this is the new norm now - The Leftists are in control; so naturally they're getting the Communist message out as soon as possible.
a.k.a. Deprogram and/or silence the Conservatives - - - Sad for our Bill of Rights...
Love to hear from him again
If it seems like Chomsky is talking over Krauss sometimes I think it may be partly an issue of his hearing. Normally he wouldn't do that. I took a class from him last year (it was amazing!) and he really had difficulty hearing some of the questions from the class. Considering he just had his 91st birthday on 12/7 he's doing amazingly well!
I assumed he was just upping his game since one of Krauss's greatest weaknesses as an interviewer is how often he interrupts.
The project is 🏁
The other way around: Krauss asks a question & interrupted Chomsky. Especially annoying near the end.
Thank you for placing the microphone next to Chomsky's face, you can barely hear the guy in other interviews
Thats also a very good microphone
I think that's by design, because if you could actually hear what he's saying and then play it back years later, you would realize how vacuous and out of touch his ideas are.
@@SteveSmith-fh6br k
@@SteveSmith-fh6br He talked about Trump getting dangerous people pissed off as a mob. Sorry, doesn’t sound out of touch a year later.
@@Wallyworld30 Any dolt could see that was the case since Trump announced he was running for office. Not exactly Nostradamus over there.
This man is the voice of reason. Love hearing him talk. He's so knowledgeable and what an amazing memory he has! We're so lucky to have him.
I've read the Ellsberg book Chomsky references at 1:46 and I highly recommend it. Also, the book by Scott Atran he refers to earlier is called Talking to the Enemy, also an amazing book, Atran went into places like Lebanon and the West Bank and talked to potential terrorists and the communities that support them and what he found was (as Chomsky alluded to) they were primarily motivated not by religion but by the same things that would motivate anyone: that their friends and loved ones had been murdered, maimed, and tortured by the US and US puppet forces. Another excellent book along the same lines is Dying to Win: The Logic of Suicide Terrorism by Robert Pape from the University of Chicago, very scholarly and dispassionate statistical analysis of terrorism and its causes. Interestingly, Pape's work was primarily supported by the DOD under Bush and Rumsfeld. I wonder what they thought of his results. Although, that's really not all that unusual, the DOD and the CIA often have a good understanding of what is really going on, it's just that those kinds of analysis (e.g., the Pentagon Papers) are meant for internal use not for the general public.
Michael D... you certainly are well read. Thx for the book suggestions.
Have my coffee, listening, so nice.
I agree that so many Chomsky videos and audios are poorly miked and lit and distantly framed. This is a pleasure to look at and listen to because the tech side is so well done. To have The Enterprise and Mr. Spock hovering in the background is icing on the cake. Bravo!
Best convo I’ve heard recently. Krauss’s ability to jam with Chomsky is terrific. Just teo smart guys chatting.
This is literally gold even more then that. 2h+ of knowledge and wisdom in an overall insane,irrational emotional driven world
You both are among the best human minds! Thank you so much for this great conversation. Awakens human consciousness.
Many thanks from Finland. Noam has always had my full attention & respect. Choosing to help humanity is absolutely beautiful. Some people are just fundamentally angelic ;) Best wishes!
I first heard the name Norm Chomsky from Leonard Bernstein Norton lecture. I had no clue what at first because for 4 lectures he relied on linguistic discovery to explain the musical phenomena, and the name of Norm Chomsky came up over and over. In his bio, Leonard Bernstein was really happy going back to give lecture at his old school and the lecture really took me off to learn how language and music are related. It was Norm and Lenny that started my interest in both linguistics and music.
Thanks Lawrence and Noam for the early Christmas present
Noam's mind must be preserved by melding with AGI
Id love to hear Noam respond to this. Because while I don't even know what AGI is, AI does not exist.
I’m so glad he does these podcasts..he’s so important💕
I don't think I have ever seen Chomsky smile or chuckle so much in an interview or talk before.
More of this, please.
Thank you very much for this, definitely made me think about some things in different ways than i otherwise did. And to paraphrase, it’s better to have fought and lost than to have never fought at all
It's just wonderful to have a mind like yours to enlighten us all. A special thanks from Brazil to both of you.
I don't like how the interviewer keeps cutting off Noam when he is making a point. Several times I wanted to hear what Noam was trying to say.
its a conversation.. and went the other way more often than not
Thanks for doing these podcast Lawrence. You're doing amazing things for us idiots in the world and I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the world.
Just a quick note to say that the Liberation Theology in Latin America was not acceptable to the official Catholic Church. Pope John Paul 11's tirade against one of the leaders in public attested to the Church's position. The cause of canonization of the nuns who were murdered by CIA backed forces have been ignored by the Church of Rome.
Wow! I loved this.
I am at wow state when i listen to his discourses for many reasons. I am so greatful to see an intellectual speaking of matters and world wide events in mordern ways which help us understand social matters.
their has never been a more correct statement "I and literally millions of people thank you for what you've done"
I used to put so many hours into these kinds of discussions, but since i've had such a massive fallout. The internet just appears as so much and with each moment the breadth of it all i have no idea what to put the attention into for developmental or practice sake.
Let curiosity be your guide, not a desire for self development or whatever illusion of progress
Michael Parenti
So glad this is a new interview and not a re-upload of the old one!
When are you bringing Zizek on? hahaha
Lol, Chomsky said Zizek is incoherent.
also this interview is a gem. ive been trying to pace the incidences of my mindblownness, and its become increasingly hard for things to mindblow me that are not just pure academic lengthly research and "liturgy" (I wish i could understand turing's computational incompleteness paper but one go was definitely not enough.)...the pure candence that mr. chomsky speaks shows his confidence from his younger days, but also the depth and tidiness of his research (for example him reading airplane bombing records). and always have in mind the masses as well...
然后呢。你这段几乎没完整句子的感慨对当今世界有何效用？对中国有何意义？”美”国已成功地通过一套组合拳同化掉了中国人。对策在哪儿？这套简单的组合拳不过就是种族歧视加上其后续的廉价”觉醒”。此间的交换就是拿你所谓的”人权”买你的忠诚；即，仅为了被”美”国当人看，你同意背叛自己的国家，去做”美”国人。也就是这廉价的”觉醒”给了香蕉人其梦寐以求的出路。因此，中国人现在必须成功地向世界广播这笔交换有多肮脏，有多单向，有多背叛真正的人权。中国也必须和”华”人划清界限，尤其要正确地嘲讽和挖苦那些在好莱坞或任何美国电视上露面的”华”人。”美“”国就是拿这些人自圆其说并带路的。它们就是”美”国之音的稍微升级版。中国是有机会打碎””自由世界”的说词和算盘的，但我实在不看好中国人的”讲理”。中国上下的唯一本事就是把我们本来有理的立场，通过自己的”讲理”，硬生变成没理的辩词。这技能令人叹为观止，愤怒至极。
Awesome podcast, subbed.
Wow! best thing Ive watched in years...
You can almost hear Spock think; "this is a good time to be quiet"
I was listening to the podcast while applying for a job. About halfway through I actually watch the video. lol I just got your reference :)
@@nickhumphrey4833 I hope you got the job you were aplying for as well.
@curiosity saved the cat ya... mmhmm... ya... oh it was like a... ya... uh huh... ya... Spock ya... mmhmm...
So bizarre, why is that there!
@@nicolaslarge7545, It's the guy's private office, and he's a science guy, and that is how he chooses to decorate it.
Ahh this channel is way too good! I cant get enough. It may be time to bring Dr. Chomsky back!
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Chomsky's smile in the end is precious.
I always feel cleansed mentally when I listen to Professor Chomsky..........total voice of truth
This interview made me realise something, people should keep a very good eye on what is happening. If I have to sum what Chomsky spoke-'Evil is very sneaky and deceptive.'
what a great guest and discussion. Subscribed
Thank you for this👍
Noam is hilarious because he points out the insanity in mainstream thinking with matter-of-fact delivery
Srsly when did this interview happen? I need to know under which context this discussion was undertaken. Had the Ukraine thing come out? Had the removal of troops from Northern Syria occurred?
I believe it was about six months ago.
great conversation!
Thank you!
Chomsky is so well-spoken if you slow down the speed, he doesn't sound drunk. He just sounds like Chomsky!
(C'mon Noam! Allegro!)
Thanks for all you've done and are still doing Chomsky
What an amazing conversation between the teacher and the student
I am impressed by Dr. Krauss' deference to Prof.Chomsky. Mentor and Protege. As one of the latter, I appreciate this stirring exchange.
2 astonishing intellectuals. Hypnotically brilliant Podcast...many thanks for posting.
"when mythology is inconveniently unadaptable to everyday life"
I agree with other comments that this is one of the best interviews with Chomsky for a long time, and Chomsky gets his views across very well here. Lawrence's 'sympathetic slightly critical' interviewing approach brings out the best in Chomsky's style of discourse. He is challenged gently but not shouted down, cut off or interrupted allowing the depth and breadth of his views to emerge as well as their internal consistency and, I would say, logic.
Thanks!
1st time in 10 years i don't have to raise the volume for Chomsky
Let Noam talk! Anytime he was talking it seemed like you were trying to rush him so you could talk or change topics. Let things flow more naturally IMO. I like the really like your pod though and love Noam's views.
Agree. Kraus talks too much about himself. Still, thanks for these discussions.
Thanks
Wow, I am huge fan of the interviewer, I've read all of his work. "Midsummer Night's Dream" is my favorite.
Noam is like a statue of intelligence. He sees history like it were a rainbow of shifting patterns, always changing but the same in its essential form. He knits together the nagging of the left with the oppression of the right and the resulting friction. He is calm like the center of a hurricane, throwing out words which make you at once say, "ahh, now I see the truth", and, "holy shit, we've got to do something about this." All the while he looks back at history, he predicts the future without even trying. In other words, some things never change.
Can you pls cite a specific example where he has accurately predicted a future event, in detail, in advance?
Some one put a link of when he talks about Bernie Sanders. If he does.
Esto estuvo genial, gracias
Thank you xxxxx
It's good to hear some concrete details of our sorted past. Helps us stay grounded.
Mr. Spock (behind you): "Live long, and prosper" Noam Chomsky.
These episodes with Chomsky are one of the best, thank you for having him on.
Amazing! Simply amazing
What is the title of the second book Lawrence mentions at 1:24:40? I couldn’t get it quite right.
EDIT: got it - The Darkening Age by Catherine Nixey
zostaw thanks, I needed that too
historyforatheists.com/2017/11/review-catherine-nixey-the-darkening-age/
Noam made some incredibly insightful predictions here.
Happy 2021~!
thank you
Get him on regularly please!!!!!!!
I dig the beard dude. I'm a little disappointed Noam shaved his, it was dope too. Great talk!
the beard looks great on krauss
Yes, he is less ugly.
the white bit on his lip... not so much
The Epstein money he got too
This is awesome
Great talk
the Brazilian social media campaign stunned him and yet he thinks nothing of the Russian meddling in our elections. he's also dead wrong on Islamic terror. outside of these two issues I loved everything else he said and found him to be profoundly insightful.
Because as he said the elections are pretty much for sale. Any country can meddle in USA elections by donating money thorugh corporations
Keep reading, you get there....
As R. Buckminister Fuller would say: "The Out Law area!"
I am, and I think the whole world should be infinitely grateful to Mr Chomsky for his decision to speak out for decades! His POV and commentary has been invaluable and inspirational to millions... I adore him, and thank you and him so much for this...
Now this I want to hear.
Only if it was 4 hours long still pretty great
These wise men are talking with great humility and truths. They are the truest human beings. It makes me want to cry just to witness their existence.
Excellent talk
There is nothing more to say than WELL DONE and i know that i don't even have to explaine myself
Please have Peter Joseph on your podcast
@Enter the Bragn’ was that some new age sarcasm ? not sure what you're tryin' there
Greatest living person.
IS there any discussions on how we can secure access to videos like this, and of course, access to the encompassed schools of thought/dialogue/debates (or is there even worry of the termination of said access?)... the threat being the "powers that be" throttling the Internet (which we know is already happening) and/or generally the censorship of certain online content.
Im not sure how old he is but i can tell very old, and yet he answer the questions with detailed examples with dates. Im just 30s but always mistaken forgot dates in my life events, he is like a walking history book, living legend. Crazy memory.
He didn't retain his great memory by living off a vegan diet, that I can tell you. Plenty of cholesterol going into that brain.