"I'll be doing easy riding." Skips forward in video to instant wheelie. Love it! If there is anything I can do to make sure that these are street legal in the USA please reach out!
How does it keeps the bike from rolling away in the event that the the rider fails a steep ascent. I usually use TKO to avoid bike roll back on my EM escape R. I think this is important feature for no engine brake bike to avoid dangous event.
I am hoping for some improvements still on the battery side. I need to travel around 67km in one go where most of the distance, I need to ride around 80-110kmh, which will probably not be possible on one charge still.
Yeah that will probably be on the limits (or over) for the Primo. For the production bike the main design driver is more range, so we’ll probably be able to cover your use case, but we’ll see when we get there.
I love seeing powerfull, electric, road legal bikes (im more interested in the Enduro as you can go into the woods without disturbing anyone) but how fast does it go topspeed? The problem is always having only one gear. I have built an electric bike myself (15kw) and if you have the low gearing you dont have any topspeed and with the long gearing you cant blast out of the corners as good. I know electric bikes have more torque than gas bikes but i think we need electric bikes with more than one gear.
Geared like in the video the top is about 160 kmh. Electric has a hard time with sustained high speeds and long travel distances. That's why a Supermoto (& off-road) makes sense, it's not meant to travel at 180 kmh. There are some options with gears on the market, you can see drawbacks. Aside from the obvious cost/complexity/maintenance, it also takes away precious volume, so you need to put the battery up higher. The result is a bike with either less range or rides like a pork. It makes sense for some very specific use cases, but there's a reason 99% EVs are single gear.
I'm wondering for someone who will preferably use it mostly for supermoto use, will the charger be some what reasonable of size? And be able to fast charge at local charging stations? Because the varg has a massive charger that you wouldn't be able to carry around.
Very cool to see. Will the supermoto version or the other models be road legal in europa ? Another very nice thing would be if i could charge the battery with a ccs2 plug so i could use public infrastructure.I dont know if this is even possible from a technical standpoint ?
It will be road legal in Europe yes. This being a 400V system it IS technically possible to charge from a CCS2. The decision is either mount the huge plug on the bike or have an adapter for this use case.
@@FluxMotorcyclesThank you for having specified that; it is consistent with the fact that, according to what I’ve read, the reason for which driving in reverse gear in cars makes that whirring noise is that the gears for reverse are spur gears, whereas for the other gears they are helical and that the helical ones are quieter. Anyhow, is the rider of the video Marko Ukota? If he is, considering the skills that he has shown racing supermotos here in Italy, I think he is quite the right person for that video with some drifting!
"I'll be doing easy riding." Skips forward in video to instant wheelie. Love it! If there is anything I can do to make sure that these are street legal in the USA please reach out!
i hope its more affordable than the stark
How does it keeps the bike from rolling away in the event that the the rider fails a steep ascent. I usually use TKO to avoid bike roll back on my EM escape R. I think this is important feature for no engine brake bike to avoid dangous event.
A feature in the plan is a hill hold - stopping the bike from rolling in reverse, does that solve your concern?
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I love the virtual clutch i think it would be awesome for stunt riding with a shorter lever and a dual back brake setup
I am hoping for some improvements still on the battery side. I need to travel around 67km in one go where most of the distance, I need to ride around 80-110kmh, which will probably not be possible on one charge still.
Yeah that will probably be on the limits (or over) for the Primo. For the production bike the main design driver is more range, so we’ll probably be able to cover your use case, but we’ll see when we get there.
I love seeing powerfull, electric, road legal bikes (im more interested in the Enduro as you can go into the woods without disturbing anyone) but how fast does it go topspeed? The problem is always having only one gear. I have built an electric bike myself (15kw) and if you have the low gearing you dont have any topspeed and with the long gearing you cant blast out of the corners as good. I know electric bikes have more torque than gas bikes but i think we need electric bikes with more than one gear.
Geared like in the video the top is about 160 kmh. Electric has a hard time with sustained high speeds and long travel distances. That's why a Supermoto (& off-road) makes sense, it's not meant to travel at 180 kmh.
There are some options with gears on the market, you can see drawbacks. Aside from the obvious cost/complexity/maintenance, it also takes away precious volume, so you need to put the battery up higher. The result is a bike with either less range or rides like a pork.
It makes sense for some very specific use cases, but there's a reason 99% EVs are single gear.
I'm wondering for someone who will preferably use it mostly for supermoto use, will the charger be some what reasonable of size? And be able to fast charge at local charging stations? Because the varg has a massive charger that you wouldn't be able to carry around.
Check our instagram, the 220V plug charger is like a small backpack, not integrated in a stand. For fast charge you need a DC charging station.
Very cool to see. Will the supermoto version or the other models be road legal in europa ? Another very nice thing would be if i could charge the battery with a ccs2 plug so i could use public infrastructure.I dont know if this is even possible from a technical standpoint ?
It will be road legal in Europe yes.
This being a 400V system it IS technically possible to charge from a CCS2. The decision is either mount the huge plug on the bike or have an adapter for this use case.
😮🤩🤩 very good!
I am a little confused, you started with less battery and finished with more?
19% battery left at the end of the test, from 88% at the start.
I like the whirring of the gearbox, nice to have some sound unlike other electric bikes
It's a prefference thing and ultimately it just boils down to either using spur or helical gears, which is easy enough to change if needed
@@FluxMotorcyclesThank you for having specified that; it is consistent with the fact that, according to what I’ve read, the reason for which driving in reverse gear in cars makes that whirring noise is that the gears for reverse are spur gears, whereas for the other gears they are helical and that the helical ones are quieter.
Anyhow, is the rider of the video Marko Ukota? If he is, considering the skills that he has shown racing supermotos here in Italy, I think he is quite the right person for that video with some drifting!
@@MVPever it is indeed!