This movie scarred me as a child, the sequence with Pleasure Island resonated with some part of my subconscious in a way that stuck with me for a long time, I think I, like many, spent years without realizing the deeper symbolical resonance of its imagery and narrative. I think that's what makes the best Disney films such classics, they're fables that aren't meant to be examined from any literal point of view, but to instead show us something deeper. I thought this video was great Darren, really wonderful stuff.
Thanks man, yeah I totally remember how visceral and crazy pleasure seemed as a child but the thing that stuck with me most was moments after when its night time and quiet and they are alone playing pool, something about that scene hit me hard as a child.
Very good analysis being displayed by your succinct writing skills. One aspect that I have observed with today’s contemporary Disney films that have been made very recently is this movement, at least from my point of view, to completely sanitize certain amounts of films that cater exclusively to children. As opposed to Pinocchio which seems to cross generational lines to become a classic with a timeless message that does not appear forced or contrived. Instead, the film relies on good story telling and character development for it to thrive and possibly inspire audiences across the globe.
"they're fables that aren't meant to be examined from their literal point of view but to instead show us something deeper". Applying this phrase to religion would make our world a much better place.
I had not thought about seeing Pinocchio when I was a child for a very long time. And I remember the pleasure island scene and being very frightened. I don’t think I had given it as much thought as you have. But I do remember it affecting me profoundly on a conscious level. And probably a subconscious level but I had never considered until now. Wow! Thank you for that. It’s like him seeing those memories For the first time in over 40 years in fast-forward.
I was talking with friends about movies that scared us as children. And none of them had seen Pinocchio so they didn’t understand why I said The Pleasure Island scene. It truly terrified me as a child. More than any Disney villain because it was so real. And the children never returned home.
The song "I have no strings" is terrifying to me because of its meaning to us, the people watching how no one controls him but he is too naive to control his own actions
as dark as the pleasure island scene was it actually tells children(mainly young boys) that trusting a stranger could scar you for life as the little boys were turned into donkeys which is a symbol of foolishness and stupidity remember kids there are no shortcuts in life and you should not smoke
Remember men, life is suffering, chasing short term pleasure only prolongs that suffering. Strive for a purpose in life, strive for a meaningful life, you will fall, and maybe fall again, but he who rises after each fall is the victor. We all have limited time, the clock is ticking.
It's still 100 times more uplifting than the book. The book could only have been written by someone who hated kids. In the book ANY kind of childish behavior is bad, and all the blame is placed on the kids for what they get into. Gepetto wishes he'd never made Pinocchio, nobody accepts him unless he promises to do whatever they say, and when he's hung from a tree the characters just say 'Serves him right,' and leave him. And Collodi was originally going to end the book that way! Basically, his message is "Kids are inherently evil, and if you don't repress all your childishness, nobody will love you and you'll go to hell." Disney knew kids enough to draw a line between good childish behavior and bad childish behavior, and even though the kids aren't angels, he places the blame for greater evil on the ADULT characters. In Disney's version Pinocchio is not bad, just inexperienced, and even when he does go wrong he's still accepted by Jiminy and his father.
I've never read the bool but that sounds terrible, I wonder why Walt Disney decided to use it for a film, I mean I love how it turned out, so not complaining, but sounds like a weird source to draw from.
@William Craig Did you even read the book? I didn't read it as "kids are evil" but more as "don't be an evil kid or you will end up very bad". Pinocchio is a puppet made of wood after all. And he has to learn everything.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ he decided to use this story because it was an épisodic story with different things happening (because it was first published in a magazine). Pinocchio travels a lot so we can see always different regions and backgrounds, so we always see something new. And that was great potential for a movie as we saw.
What's really cool is: If the blue fairy wanted Pinnochio to learn these things, she could have birthed him with these qualities anyway, but she doesnt because she wants him to learn and grow for himself. And she knew if he were born perfect, he wouldn't be real as no one is perfect
The original story in the book was even darker than the Disney movie: in that version Pinocchio actually _kills_ Jiminy Cricket and turns him into a ghost, and Lampwick is sold to a farmer and dies from starvation and exhaustion.
Pinocchio was also hung, though I believe the author was forced to change that. The author did not like children and wanted to brutally teach kids a lesson
Also Pinocchio does turn into a donkey and is sold to a man who wants to skin him and make a drum...the man tries to drown him in the ocean and carnivorous fish eat away the magical donkey flesh leaving him a marionette again...😳
Another interpretation of them becoming donkeys is of course that the children have been reduced to creatures that are simply good for labor. Explosive consumerism (of tobacco, alcohol and superficial entertainment) has distracted them from and ultimately muted their values and dreams. They've lost what makes them human and have therefore only become useful in an economic sense, for their labor. Pinocchio is the only one who's able to fight against this destructive force and escape from this negative spiral before it's too late.
Totally agree, whats quiet scary is even at the end when things are good for Pinocchio, the evil in the background still continues, the coach driver isn't caught at the end, the suffering goes on, we just don't see it.
I've always loved Pinocchio as a kid, and I never truly realized how dark this really was now that I'm older. The fact that the villains don't get any punishment is what made it feel so real to me These things made me appreciate the movie even more
hmmm yeah we see the end of Pinocchio's story but not for the bad guys or the other victims, in that same world, its still going on somewhere. frightening.
@Yeeyee Maybe it’s just me but the people I associate with (college age people) always zero in on the Disney Renaissance era and don’t really talk about the old school Disney films.
@Yeeyee I suppose. But it’s certainly not talked about as much as others are. Maybe it is in your circles but I rarely hear about it. Fortunately when I grew up I watched both the 30’s-50’s Disney films and the Disney Renaissance films. My gap was a lot of the 60’s and 70’s Disney stuff.
Agree. The voice acting was terrifying, captured the horrors of regrets and no turning back. Sometimes I wonder what happened to Lampwig and those kids… but do I really wanna know? 😢
It's interesting too that the antagonists grow in menace as the film goes on. Honest John and Gideon are petty villains, even relatively (and deceivingly) likable. Then there's the coachman, who's unscrupulous and corrupt to the core. And then there's Monstro, which technically is not evil, just an animal predator who's got to eat. But at the same time it can represent the catastrophic power of nature by swallowing everything in its path and leaving destruction in its wake. Plus, the sea inhabitants are so afraid of him that they won't even utter his name, which suggests Monstro is sort of a Vlad Tepes of the sea, an unspeakable evil. But even though each villain becomes worse, Pinocchio's ability to deal with the danger improves, until he's ready to face danger head on and make willing sacrifices. I think this is a deep message. Life doesn't get easier, but we get stronger.
I think going back to his home was less about the metaphor of tradition but was more about Pinocchio needs his parent- needs his support system- someone who cares about him and will listen to him. And he saves ghepetto because he refused to live without his support system, without someone who cares about him. Because when he was around ppl who didn't care, he was taken advantage of/led astray. This movie was terrifying to me as a child. I think I was terrified for good reason
And you know what's sad? All of the villains got away with what they did. Disney villains are usually punished accordingly for their actions but the Coachman, Stromboli, the fox and the cat are still out there.
-and in the book, Pinocchio and Gepetto-having just got out of the whale-saw the fox and the cat as beggars on the road. Pinocchio refused to help them at all.(So there,too!)
It seems that the whole point of Pinocchio is Pinocchio's character development, rather than a traditional good vs evil story. Actually, the good vs evil conflict in this film is more internal rather than external. It is Pinocchio's own choice that gets him in trouble with wicked people like the Coachmen or Stromboli. Unlike other Disney MCs, Pinocchio allows himself to be taken advantage of by the villains when he falls into temptation, and good triumphs when he manages to escape them and be given a second chance to be a better person. This in a way, is like real life. Each of us can make a right or wrong choice (Yes, there's always a grey area, but you get my point) and we don't always have the chance or ability to defeat some villain. The best we can do is to stay away from evil or toxic people or find ways to not let them be part of our lives. And a lot of times, those people may not always get their comeuppance until later in life, if at all. Pinocchio is a cautionary tale that tells us that the world can be a dangerous place and our choices determine how we will turn out, whether like Pinocchio or the other "stupid little boys". Interestingly, there are other Disney villains who are not punished accordingly, such as Man from Bambi, the stepfamily from Cinderella (they lose Cinderella, but they don't really get punished), or even the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.
Pinocchio is one of the best Disney films I’ve ever seen because it teached me so many things that will be relevant to my future. Let me talk about the positive things and the negative things. I am impressed with Pinocchio’s character development because even though he made some bad decisions, he sacrificed himself during the battle scene to save his own family which shows his true character. + The morals are extremely executed and it is completely relevant for children to watch this film if they want to learn about actions, family and life. The animation is breathtaking and astonishing, the storytelling is fantastic and it conjures more nostalgia and magic than any other Disney film. - Despite it’s executed morals and great storytelling, some of the scenes are terrifying but also traumatizing at the same time. The children didn’t deserve to transform into donkeys because bad attitude doesn’t justify evil and the crimes that Coachman commited without showinf any remorse for his actions. The whole point of this film is that when we do bad actions, there are gonna be some several and actual consequences so if you don’t want to suffer consequences then you have to take responsibility for your actions and don’t repeat the same actions again. Both family and education is important in our lives so we can have a great future and life, fame is important but it’s not always important in our life and wishes may come true.
I was simply terrified of the Disney animated adaptation of Alice in Wonderland when I was young. I've never fully watched Pinnochio, but I can see why it was a disturbing film.
Bambi and Pinocchio were the best movies I know, they teach me that I can be childish but being selfless, I never thought a lot of myself I enjoyed everything I got and any memory I know, I have seen the bad side but that what gives me more appreciation to the good memories
This movie ia a masterpiece, the animation is incredible for 1940. But there is no denying that there are some truly disturbing and creepy moments in this movie.Whenever i watch it i always enjoy it but there is that uneasy feeling i get because i know that there is some dark stuff in it. While Dumbo and Bambi were very sad and poignant (Dumbo is bullied for his big ears and his mother is separated from him and locked away just for defending him, Bambi losses his mother) this film presents us with Pinocchio being locked in a cage and told he will work as a slave and then used as firewood when he has served his purpose, young boys drinking and smoking, young boys being taken away and turned into donkeys. It always struck me that the villains never get caught or punished but the little boys suffer the cruelest punishment imaginable and nothing in the movie ever suggests that they are rescued from this. Finally, we have the Whale which is probably not ''evil'' exactly just needs to satisfy its appetite, but the underwater scenes when the whale is chasing the fish and inside its belly are pretty creepy and the chase scenes when Pinocchio and his father try to escape are pretty scary
I agree, the film is staggeringly impressive, especially for the time, especially when you compare it to some animation these days.. Its very bizarre the themes in the film but they really have stood this test of time as a classic.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ i think honestly Pinocchio has stood the test of time way better than almost any other movie. It doesn't feel dated. I think movies like Titanic from 1997, and even other Disney movies like Lion King, don't stand the test of time because when you watch them again you see that underneath the hype they are just a lot of style over substance. Titanic was amazing in the last hour of the movie but you have to sit through two hours of a turgid uninspiring love story to get to the iceberg. Pinocchio has great animation and a deep story as well. When it was first released it didn't do so well but the years have given it the credit it deserves, its timeless and the themes in it are relevant now as they were at the time and always will be.
In first grade, there was a choice to watch either the Aristocats or Pinocchio. I voted for The Aristocats, but for some reason everyone wanted to watch Pinocchio, and that was my first time watching it. It was scary af and I had no clue why people were okay with watching it.
Watching it as a kid, they were just bad guys and even tho he may not have fought them or defeated them he got away...watching it as an adult...super cringe 😬😅
@@ProfessorSlump it has nothing to do with that. many people think that pleasure island is sexual (poor italins and carlo! lol) but it isn't. we're all so confused.
It screams child trafficking. As a kid when I saw this movie I was disturbed. This film goes way deeper than just child trafficking. All of Disney's films are reflective of such atrocities that have gone on and continue to the present. It's chilling to think we as children and generations following are still being hypnotized...oh no, some say, not Disney. Sorry folks. Yes Disney and he's just one of many.
You're not the only one. I believe that's exactly what they were pointing to. And someone commented that the donkey is also called "an ass" which makes it even more disturbing. In my opinion there's definitely something very dark going on there and as the saying goes, "if you don't want people to see something, put it right in front of their face". Pedophilia and child trafficking is nothing new, and there's quite some evidence of it happening in Hollywood and in high political/financial spheres. May God help us.
I agree so much with you. As a child, Disney bright out a lot of emotions in me in ways I genuinely didn’t understand but Pinocchio was a completely different experience. Just the pallet of the film is sinister to me and as a child it scared in a way I didn’t understand. This might genuinely sound super dark but looking back, geeZ
Whenever “The End” appear on my screen, I celebrate for Pinocchio for a second, quickly ruined by thinking “WAIT, What happens to the children/ donkeys?” I cry for those rambunctious kids. Very dark film.
This is my favorite video of yours, well the top 3 are hard to determine. One flew over the cuckoos nest, Pinocchio and toy story 4 were all perfectly executed and analyzed to the point where it heightened my understanding and appreciation of the film, which is the whole point of film analysis... and unfortunately the rarest to find among the film analysis community.
Thanks Tyler, Glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos. I really enjoyed the research and writing on all those videos, especially the Toy Story 4 one, I was really moved by that film and it took a while to figure out how to explain why. The Pinocchio one started out mostly from Jordan Peterson being so fascinated by it, which led me to looking into it more.
I really needed to listen to this. Thank you so much! Your narration is wonderful and the underlying thoughts are massively insightful, thanks for doing the research and editing this.
Thanks, Jordan Peterson's 'Maps of Meaning' lectures were a great source of listening and covered this in way more depth, but also in way more hours lol.
I never saw the dark side of this as a kid, but now being an adult, sheesh man. This film is truly dark when it arrives to pleasure Island, it still gives me goosebumps
The allegory of kids being made jackasses and enslaved through alcohol always escaped me as a child. The whole journey horrified me, but that part hits different now.
This video was really helpful! I watched this movie all the time as a child. Then, when I was really sick with a super high fever, I was watching the film, and for some reason, it scared me, even though it hadn't before. I never watched it again but recently I've been thinking about it. I thought I'd youtube it to get over my fear haha.
I had the same experience with E.T, I watched it constantly as a child, then got really scared of it, and now I'm older love it for its emotion and filmmaking chops.
This movie is a great representation how short term pleasures leads to your death sentence or a life of a “jackass” this movie hit me at a deeper level as I got older.. It helped me changed up my act and realized that life should be cherished and we should find meaningful things to do with this one life God gives us.. and that can be a variety of things. I’m starting college back up in hopes to graduate with an environmental science degree so I can contribute in making this planet a better place. It’ll be a long ride but I’m working hard right now to pay through college.
the scene where they load the boat and go to pleasure island, departing and landing there are probably very close representations of how it actually looks more or less
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ I WILL acknowledge that it is an incredible work of art and possibly one of the finest movies from the golden age of Walt Disney. Still scares the life out of me though lol
I was just thinking about this the other day. The story is very deep. And it’s symbolic to what’s going on today. People are being mislead into destruction being turned into donkeys. (Hint ...which organisation uses the donkey as their logo)
@Rich In Jesus The reason the donkey is the Democrat mascot is because President Andrew Jackson's election opponent publicly called Jackson a jackass, so Jackson started using a donkey on campaign posters. Like Jesus turning the other cheek.
this movie always stuck out to me as a kid...watched it dozens of times during the many long, summer holidays. seems i'm living this story in real life now...
Thanks, theres a reason everyone who grew up with those classic Disney films, still loves them. There was a quality and ambition with each of those film! Pinocchio was a personal favourite of mine.
On a lighter note, Gideon is one of my favorite disney villains. Although he is a mute his mannerisms and dramatic gestures always make me chuckle. I think he was just a boozed up cat following the orders of Honest John.
Iv actually started doing that a little on instgram these days, but will also being doing some Q and A podcasts soon, so that will be good chance to share some info. instagram.com/_mustseefilms_/
I barely saw this film for the first time earlier last year, and wow, it is a truly great but unsettling film, especially in the second act. It truly captured the darkness of life, but also glorified the purity of it as well. I think it's a mature kids movie, it handles it's themes well, so well that honestly, it's kinda creepy at times. There's good lessons here for kids to learn, more so than the ultra light hearted children's films today
Yeah its deeply truthful and when I was a child watching this film, the adventure and the animation were the things that captured me but as an adult the themes and meaning behind the artists choices make the film so much more to me now!
I think we can definitely relate to what Pinocchio feels when confronted by the Blue Fairy over what he did. It's hard to acknowledge when we've made mistakes and it's easier to hide them to spare our egos.
I grew up in the 80s, and this was one of my favourite films as a child. That and Disney's Robin Hood, and Sword in the Stone. I had super-christian helicopter parents, and Pleasure Island fascinated me. I went on to rebel hard in my teens, so maybe that was a foreshadowing. I certainly didn't find Pinocchio to be as dark as some other stuff I consumed as a child, such as Roald Dahl. But I suppose it is pretty dark for DIsney. I feel like your channel is very underrated btw.
Thanks man, yeah I also remember watching James and the giant peach and found it quite frightening as a child. Also I loved sword in the stone, had it recorded from TV on VHS.
Pinocchio scared the living lights out of my when I was younger I got scared that if a trusted a stranger I would be a donkey and that’s how I learned that you stick to your parents no matter what
7:40 OH HECK! THE COACHMAN USES DONKEYS TO PULL HIS CARRIAGE! I FINALLY HAVE MY ANSWER AS TO WHAT HAPPEBS TO THE BOYS ON PLEASURE ISLAND WHO CAN STILL TALK
If you read the Bible and watch Pinocchio, there are deep parallels between them. First, Pinocchio represents naive children who are easily swayed by sinful choices. Gippeto represents God in a small way. The coachman represents satan himself easily deceiving people into hell with the promise of pleasure. Gimini I represents the Holy Spirit which tells Christian’s what’s Godly and what isn’t. When you turn against the hard path of doing what’s right and selfless, you eventually become a slave to sin physically and spiritually as you see with the donkey transformation.
@@DK-gl3ih Pinocchio escapes Pleasure Island but the Coachman, Honest John and Gideon chase after him back to shore and recapture him and Stromboli returns at the end and they all hang Pinocchio.
I just revisited the pleasure island donkey scene after all these years. That scene never scared me as a little kid, But now as an adult I got to say, that was one of the most terrifying scenes in any disney movie I have ever seen. Even more terrifying than any bloody gory horror movie out there. Now I'm probably gonna get nightmares for a while watching this. LOL
I know, I had the same experience with ET. I watched is all the time as a child, but then a little older, I got terrified when ET gets ill and is dying. Shocked and scared me.
wonderful interpretation. i would also add that gepetto is the representative of the father/god .... pinocchio is his creation as christ/human....letting him go into the world is the representation of the fall/creation of ego/attempot to create real identity without god....pinocchio's return home where he finds and empty house is how he already turned so astray by darkness and corruption, and having now realised this world of "pleasures" brings only pain and suffering, he still can not just choose to reunite with father without a deep purification of the soul, although the father is looking for him as well so they reuinte but can not find eachother.....gepetto trapped in the belly of the whale represents how father/god is "trapped" in each of us by this darkness of the ego/idea of separation and this ultimate darkness we must acknowledge and face and in the end let go of and "escape" from to be reuinted with the father ...blue fairy is the holy spirit that is the essential guide to his return to the god/father and pinocchio, by sacrificing his imaginary worldly self/false identity for father, is reborn in his true identity of REAL existance and forever joined with his creator/god/father from where he originally came from.
Yeah, you almost have to make mistakes in order to realise the correct path down the line. Theres almost no value in getting it right first time because you don't learn anything.
Excellent excellent excellent interpretation of this film phenomenal job to this narrator... Even taught me a grown man a few things that I may have missed
Just rewatched this after 6 years after watching it in middle school for a project and lessons but after watching it again I love this film it's probably my Disney film it's awesome and good I loved it and it's a masterpiece it's amazing:)
Well, i actually never felt "SCARED" by this movie, and i always (even as a little child) realized that's this movie is pretty dark...However one of my greatest fears is turning into a non talking ANIMAL, so the donkey scene was ALWAYS a little agonizing for me...
An excellent video bro. I loved the references to Peterson and Joseph Campbell. I am currently working on my second project and am taking deep interest in reading works by these types of people to help me with it. Let me know if you'd ever like to do a collaboration discussing this video dude. I'd love to discuss movies with you!
Pinocchio has got to be the closest Disney has ever come to making an animated horror movie. Especially with Lampwick’s transformation scene. And let’s not forget Monstro.
Great video, very enlightening. I am doing an esoteric series on Bioshock and looking into whether Pinocchio connects with Fool's card in Tarot. The similarities are striking as is the journey itself. Great job!
Thanks man, iv just recently been introduced to the Tarot cards and I'm actually quite blown away by them and how interesting they have been. Turns out my soul card is number 9, The Hermit.
So this video is just published today, glad that I watch it so soon. Great work, really love the insights which you shared with us. Keep making videos, Darren!
I literally can’t watch the donkey scene in the original. The bit with Lampwick screaming for his mother is just plain horrifying, even as an adult. Do you think Lampwick was regretting his bad actions once he found out it was too late?
Not dark at all, just that in the past, adult content didn’t glorify immorality and kid content didn’t treat children as stupid When I was a kid it didn’t scared me or something
The donkey slavery bit was always the scary bit for me. The fact that everyone was getting trapped and rounded up horrified me. AND IT NEVER GOT RESOLVED. These bad guys won. Pinocchio was only barely able to save himself. Everyone else got fucked!
The story: Pinnochio was a little puppet boy that was very naughty. The cricket (I dont know his name) tells him to do somrthin very bad. Pinnochio then gets a hammer and bashes the cricket. Time spam......... pinnochio then starts getting in bad situations to the point where he gets his legs burned off, and gets hanged up on a tree with a rope around his neck. I hope this helped you with the story.
I so miss these Disney movies dark & beautiful & Peter Pan is the 1 Disney movie based off the darkest fairy tale where as Pinocchio is the darkest Disney movie based off a dark fairy tale .
I had seen this once as a child and blocked out all the uneasy and sad parts, I now realize after watching it again just last night. This movie should have scared me as a child but I guess I blocked it out. And now with the remake, in this climate it's so telling that it's always been right in front of us. Sex trafficking. This is arguably the darkest Disney movie and the fact that it's one of the first ones made just makes me sad. Another eyeopener that Disney has always been feeding us these bread crumbs.
This movie scarred me as a child, the sequence with Pleasure Island resonated with some part of my subconscious in a way that stuck with me for a long time, I think I, like many, spent years without realizing the deeper symbolical resonance of its imagery and narrative. I think that's what makes the best Disney films such classics, they're fables that aren't meant to be examined from any literal point of view, but to instead show us something deeper. I thought this video was great Darren, really wonderful stuff.
Thanks man, yeah I totally remember how visceral and crazy pleasure seemed as a child but the thing that stuck with me most was moments after when its night time and quiet and they are alone playing pool, something about that scene hit me hard as a child.
Very good analysis being displayed by your succinct writing skills.
One aspect that I have observed with today’s contemporary Disney
films that have been made very recently is this movement, at least
from my point of view, to completely sanitize certain amounts
of films that cater exclusively to children. As opposed to
Pinocchio which seems to cross generational lines to become a
classic with a timeless message that does not appear forced or
contrived. Instead, the film relies on good story telling
and character development for it to thrive and possibly
inspire audiences across the globe.
"they're fables that aren't meant to be examined from their literal point of view but to instead show us something deeper". Applying this phrase to religion would make our world a much better place.
I had not thought about seeing Pinocchio when I was a child for a very long time. And I remember the pleasure island scene and being very frightened. I don’t think I had given it as much thought as you have. But I do remember it affecting me profoundly on a conscious level. And probably a subconscious level but I had never considered until now. Wow! Thank you for that. It’s like him seeing those memories For the first time in over 40 years in fast-forward.
I was talking with friends about movies that scared us as children. And none of them had seen Pinocchio so they didn’t understand why I said The Pleasure Island scene. It truly terrified me as a child. More than any Disney villain because it was so real. And the children never returned home.
The song "I have no strings" is terrifying to me because of its meaning to us, the people watching how no one controls him but he is too naive to control his own actions
I know its quite a scare thing to think that at one point you are out on your own and its up to you to navigate the world.
I actually heard that they are going to make a live action Disney Pinocchio movie soon
@@strawberrygardens_5350 starring Tom Hanks smh
@@strawberrygardens_5350 OH GOD, THATS GONNA BE EVEN MORE HORRIFYING.
The song is terrifying because just like you disobey order.
as dark as the pleasure island scene was it actually tells children(mainly young boys) that
trusting a stranger could scar you for life as the little boys were turned into donkeys which
is a symbol of foolishness and stupidity remember kids there are no shortcuts in life
and you should not smoke
Oh yes, those life lessons were very good. Seeing Pinocchio get sick from his cigar is also why I don't smoke!
Remember men, life is suffering, chasing short term pleasure only prolongs that suffering.
Strive for a purpose in life, strive for a meaningful life, you will fall, and maybe fall again, but he who rises after each fall is the victor. We all have limited time, the clock is ticking.
It's still 100 times more uplifting than the book. The book could only have been written by someone who hated kids. In the book ANY kind of childish behavior is bad, and all the blame is placed on the kids for what they get into. Gepetto wishes he'd never made Pinocchio, nobody accepts him unless he promises to do whatever they say, and when he's hung from a tree the characters just say 'Serves him right,' and leave him. And Collodi was originally going to end the book that way! Basically, his message is "Kids are inherently evil, and if you don't repress all your childishness, nobody will love you and you'll go to hell."
Disney knew kids enough to draw a line between good childish behavior and bad childish behavior, and even though the kids aren't angels, he places the blame for greater evil on the ADULT characters. In Disney's version Pinocchio is not bad, just inexperienced, and even when he does go wrong he's still accepted by Jiminy and his father.
I've never read the bool but that sounds terrible, I wonder why Walt Disney decided to use it for a film, I mean I love how it turned out, so not complaining, but sounds like a weird source to draw from.
@William Craig Did you even read the book? I didn't read it as "kids are evil" but more as "don't be an evil kid or you will end up very bad". Pinocchio is a puppet made of wood after all. And he has to learn everything.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ he decided to use this story because it was an épisodic story with different things happening (because it was first published in a magazine).
Pinocchio travels a lot so we can see always different regions and backgrounds, so we always see something new.
And that was great potential for a movie as we saw.
I heard, pinocchio fucking ICED jiminy cricket in the book 💀
Sounds like the book reflects the line of thinking of those times… children’s upbringing was probably much stricter.
"They dont come back as boys!!"
Brrrr.
Spine shiver.
What's really cool is:
If the blue fairy wanted Pinnochio to learn these things, she could have birthed him with these qualities anyway, but she doesnt because she wants him to learn and grow for himself. And she knew if he were born perfect, he wouldn't be real as no one is perfect
Thats the deep truth in the film, and made of life too!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ I just, REALLY like this video ok!
Pinocchio is one of the most realistic Disney films by far, in terms of how human most of its moments are.
The original story in the book was even darker than the Disney movie:
in that version Pinocchio actually _kills_ Jiminy Cricket and turns him into a ghost, and Lampwick is sold to a farmer and dies from starvation and exhaustion.
Wow thats dark lol. Im surprised Disney thought that was family friendly material when they chose to do it.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ same with the little mermaid. They have a thing for really dark "children's" tales lol
Pinocchio was also hung, though I believe the author was forced to change that. The author did not like children and wanted to brutally teach kids a lesson
Also Pinocchio does turn into a donkey and is sold to a man who wants to skin him and make a drum...the man tries to drown him in the ocean and carnivorous fish eat away the magical donkey flesh leaving him a marionette again...😳
Another interpretation of them becoming donkeys is of course that the children have been reduced to creatures that are simply good for labor.
Explosive consumerism (of tobacco, alcohol and superficial entertainment) has distracted them from and ultimately muted their values and dreams. They've lost what makes them human and have therefore only become useful in an economic sense, for their labor. Pinocchio is the only one who's able to fight against this destructive force and escape from this negative spiral before it's too late.
Great video, by the way!
Totally agree, whats quiet scary is even at the end when things are good for Pinocchio, the evil in the background still continues, the coach driver isn't caught at the end, the suffering goes on, we just don't see it.
The way the system works.... and what it really does to people....
Shhhh.... They'll vax us again
I've always loved Pinocchio as a kid, and I never truly realized how dark this really was now that I'm older. The fact that the villains don't get any punishment is what made it feel so real to me
These things made me appreciate the movie even more
hmmm yeah we see the end of Pinocchio's story but not for the bad guys or the other victims, in that same world, its still going on somewhere. frightening.
Extremely underrated Disney film. It’s my 2nd favorite Disney film, and is one of the best animated films of all time.
what is the 1st dear?
Probably Beauty and the Beast. But it fluctuates. Pinocchio may be my personal favorite though.
Bolt is one of the top 10 Disney movies (excluding pixar) and even better than pinoceo imo.
@Yeeyee Maybe it’s just me but the people I associate with (college age people) always zero in on the Disney Renaissance era and don’t really talk about the old school Disney films.
@Yeeyee I suppose. But it’s certainly not talked about as much as others are. Maybe it is in your circles but I rarely hear about it. Fortunately when I grew up I watched both the 30’s-50’s Disney films and the Disney Renaissance films. My gap was a lot of the 60’s and 70’s Disney stuff.
Seeing Lampwig go completely feral is one of the most chilling moments in cinema.
agreed!
Agree. The voice acting was terrifying, captured the horrors of regrets and no turning back. Sometimes I wonder what happened to Lampwig and those kids… but do I really wanna know? 😢
Basically, Lampwick is not feral, he regrets when it's too late that he can't go back...
It's interesting too that the antagonists grow in menace as the film goes on. Honest John and Gideon are petty villains, even relatively (and deceivingly) likable. Then there's the coachman, who's unscrupulous and corrupt to the core. And then there's Monstro, which technically is not evil, just an animal predator who's got to eat. But at the same time it can represent the catastrophic power of nature by swallowing everything in its path and leaving destruction in its wake. Plus, the sea inhabitants are so afraid of him that they won't even utter his name, which suggests Monstro is sort of a Vlad Tepes of the sea, an unspeakable evil.
But even though each villain becomes worse, Pinocchio's ability to deal with the danger improves, until he's ready to face danger head on and make willing sacrifices. I think this is a deep message. Life doesn't get easier, but we get stronger.
Well said, theres definitely a parallel crescendo of ability from our hero, matched with the ever growing evil of the villains. So awesome!
I think going back to his home was less about the metaphor of tradition but was more about Pinocchio needs his parent- needs his support system- someone who cares about him and will listen to him. And he saves ghepetto because he refused to live without his support system, without someone who cares about him. Because when he was around ppl who didn't care, he was taken advantage of/led astray.
This movie was terrifying to me as a child. I think I was terrified for good reason
And you know what's sad? All of the villains got away with what they did.
Disney villains are usually punished accordingly for their actions but the Coachman, Stromboli, the fox and the cat are still out there.
I know thats really dark, to think the that coach driver gets away at the end. haunting. especially for Disney.
-and in the book, Pinocchio and Gepetto-having just got out of the whale-saw the fox and the cat as beggars on the road. Pinocchio refused to help them at all.(So there,too!)
It seems that the whole point of Pinocchio is Pinocchio's character development, rather than a traditional good vs evil story. Actually, the good vs evil conflict in this film is more internal rather than external. It is Pinocchio's own choice that gets him in trouble with wicked people like the Coachmen or Stromboli. Unlike other Disney MCs, Pinocchio allows himself to be taken advantage of by the villains when he falls into temptation, and good triumphs when he manages to escape them and be given a second chance to be a better person. This in a way, is like real life. Each of us can make a right or wrong choice (Yes, there's always a grey area, but you get my point) and we don't always have the chance or ability to defeat some villain. The best we can do is to stay away from evil or toxic people or find ways to not let them be part of our lives. And a lot of times, those people may not always get their comeuppance until later in life, if at all. Pinocchio is a cautionary tale that tells us that the world can be a dangerous place and our choices determine how we will turn out, whether like Pinocchio or the other "stupid little boys".
Interestingly, there are other Disney villains who are not punished accordingly, such as Man from Bambi, the stepfamily from Cinderella (they lose Cinderella, but they don't really get punished), or even the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.
Cruella De Vil doesn't get punished either (except for her car landing in the ditch)
@@ryanhoward3383 at least she got arrested in the 1996 Disney live action lol
It's the darkest Disney film which also makes it my favorite Disney film
Pinocchio is one of the best Disney films I’ve ever seen because it teached me so many things that will be relevant to my future. Let me talk about the positive things and the negative things. I am impressed with Pinocchio’s character development because even though he made some bad decisions, he sacrificed himself during the battle scene to save his own family which shows his true character.
+ The morals are extremely executed and it is completely relevant for children to watch this film if they want to learn about actions, family and life. The animation is breathtaking and astonishing, the storytelling is fantastic and it conjures more nostalgia and magic than any other Disney film.
- Despite it’s executed morals and great storytelling, some of the scenes are terrifying but also traumatizing at the same time. The children didn’t deserve to transform into donkeys because bad attitude doesn’t justify evil and the crimes that Coachman commited without showinf any remorse for his actions.
The whole point of this film is that when we do bad actions, there are gonna be some several and actual consequences so if you don’t want to suffer consequences then you have to take responsibility for your actions and don’t repeat the same actions again. Both family and education is important in our lives so we can have a great future and life, fame is important but it’s not always important in our life and wishes may come true.
I agree with everything...
I was simply terrified of the Disney animated adaptation of Alice in Wonderland when I was young. I've never fully watched Pinnochio, but I can see why it was a disturbing film.
Bambi and Pinocchio were the best movies I know, they teach me that I can be childish but being selfless, I never thought a lot of myself I enjoyed everything I got and any memory I know, I have seen the bad side but that what gives me more appreciation to the good memories
This movie ia a masterpiece, the animation is incredible for 1940. But there is no denying that there are some truly disturbing and creepy moments in this movie.Whenever i watch it i always enjoy it but there is that uneasy feeling i get because i know that there is some dark stuff in it. While Dumbo and Bambi were very sad and poignant (Dumbo is bullied for his big ears and his mother is separated from him and locked away just for defending him, Bambi losses his mother) this film presents us with Pinocchio being locked in a cage and told he will work as a slave and then used as firewood when he has served his purpose, young boys drinking and smoking, young boys being taken away and turned into donkeys. It always struck me that the villains never get caught or punished but the little boys suffer the cruelest punishment imaginable and nothing in the movie ever suggests that they are rescued from this. Finally, we have the Whale which is probably not ''evil'' exactly just needs to satisfy its appetite, but the underwater scenes when the whale is chasing the fish and inside its belly are pretty creepy and the chase scenes when Pinocchio and his father try to escape are pretty scary
I agree, the film is staggeringly impressive, especially for the time, especially when you compare it to some animation these days.. Its very bizarre the themes in the film but they really have stood this test of time as a classic.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ i think honestly Pinocchio has stood the test of time way better than almost any other movie. It doesn't feel dated. I think movies like Titanic from 1997, and even other Disney movies like Lion King, don't stand the test of time because when you watch them again you see that underneath the hype they are just a lot of style over substance. Titanic was amazing in the last hour of the movie but you have to sit through two hours of a turgid uninspiring love story to get to the iceberg. Pinocchio has great animation and a deep story as well. When it was first released it didn't do so well but the years have given it the credit it deserves, its timeless and the themes in it are relevant now as they were at the time and always will be.
@@ryanwilliams1800 Agreed. Can you imagine how mind blowing it would be to have seen this in the cinema when it came out!
In first grade, there was a choice to watch either the Aristocats or Pinocchio. I voted for The Aristocats, but for some reason everyone wanted to watch Pinocchio, and that was my first time watching it. It was scary af and I had no clue why people were okay with watching it.
Yeah, the more I think about it, it would be terrifying to watch as a child!!!
Watching it as a kid, they were just bad guys and even tho he may not have fought them or defeated them he got away...watching it as an adult...super cringe 😬😅
I watched at home as a child it scared me so bad I hid behind a chair .
I love Pinocchio since I was a little girl, it's wonderful for me to watch a video that explains the movie
It was a childhood favourite of mine, but I was blown away to hear so much more going on when I returning to dig into it.
I love this film. It incarnates what real life is.
It incarnates America..
@@qbw8834, are you from r/shower thoughts?
The most realistic and humane Disney film by far.
I've never actually seen this movie, but I can't be the only one who sees the connection between Pleasure Island and child trafficking here
tbh it made me think of jeffrey epsteins island where the kids gets drugged and sold for sex
@@ProfessorSlump it has nothing to do with that. many people think that pleasure island is sexual (poor italins and carlo! lol) but it isn't. we're all so confused.
It screams child trafficking. As a kid when I saw this movie I was disturbed.
This film goes way deeper than just child trafficking. All of Disney's films are reflective of such atrocities that have gone on and continue to the present. It's chilling to think we as children and generations following are still being hypnotized...oh no, some say, not Disney. Sorry folks. Yes Disney and he's just one of many.
You're not the only one. I believe that's exactly what they were pointing to. And someone commented that the donkey is also called "an ass" which makes it even more disturbing. In my opinion there's definitely something very dark going on there and as the saying goes, "if you don't want people to see something, put it right in front of their face". Pedophilia and child trafficking is nothing new, and there's quite some evidence of it happening in Hollywood and in high political/financial spheres. May God help us.
You should read the book
I remembered crying after watching this film for the first time after my childhood when I could actually understand it
Pinocchio was lucky to escape from it... But many people are not that lucky.... Even these days we live in...
@@qbw8834 Pinocchio got conscience to lead him out so yeah he was super lucky that he escaped from pleasure island the darkest part of the movie
@@Sugarkyte lol my message was about something much deeper but yes, indeed
Lampwick keeps yelling that he’s “been framed”, like he’s the victim. He is a victim, but he’s also deflecting responsibility.
So true!
I agree so much with you. As a child, Disney bright out a lot of emotions in me in ways I genuinely didn’t understand but Pinocchio was a completely different experience. Just the pallet of the film is sinister to me and as a child it scared in a way I didn’t understand. This might genuinely sound super dark but looking back, geeZ
I know its a totally different experience watching this film as an adult, also the animation is mind blowing compared to the early Disney films!
Whenever “The End” appear on my screen, I celebrate for Pinocchio for a second, quickly ruined by thinking “WAIT, What happens to the children/ donkeys?” I cry for those rambunctious kids. Very dark film.
I know thats the part hat is never mentioned, very dark.
This is my favorite video of yours, well the top 3 are hard to determine. One flew over the cuckoos nest, Pinocchio and toy story 4 were all perfectly executed and analyzed to the point where it heightened my understanding and appreciation of the film, which is the whole point of film analysis... and unfortunately the rarest to find among the film analysis community.
Thanks Tyler, Glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos. I really enjoyed the research and writing on all those videos, especially the Toy Story 4 one, I was really moved by that film and it took a while to figure out how to explain why. The Pinocchio one started out mostly from Jordan Peterson being so fascinated by it, which led me to looking into it more.
I really needed to listen to this. Thank you so much! Your narration is wonderful and the underlying thoughts are massively insightful, thanks for doing the research and editing this.
Thanks, Jordan Peterson's 'Maps of Meaning' lectures were a great source of listening and covered this in way more depth, but also in way more hours lol.
I never saw the dark side of this as a kid, but now being an adult, sheesh man. This film is truly dark when it arrives to pleasure Island, it still gives me goosebumps
The allegory of kids being made jackasses and enslaved through alcohol always escaped me as a child.
The whole journey horrified me, but that part hits different now.
As soon as you said "To the highest good he can conceptualize..." I knew the Lobster had gotten to you.
Amazing analysis. Beautiful.
Thanks, Jordan Peterson got me thinking more about the film and I wanted to put it all together.
“Prove yourself to be brave, truthful, unselfish and one day you will be a real boy.”
Im nearly 30 and only just realised that pinocchio ends up drinking and smoking until he cant hack it lol dark stuff!
This video was really helpful! I watched this movie all the time as a child. Then, when I was really sick with a super high fever, I was watching the film, and for some reason, it scared me, even though it hadn't before. I never watched it again but recently I've been thinking about it. I thought I'd youtube it to get over my fear haha.
I had the same experience with E.T, I watched it constantly as a child, then got really scared of it, and now I'm older love it for its emotion and filmmaking chops.
To be fair, when they brought him to the Coachman, it is kinda hard to say no when you are picked up and dragged off against your will.
lol yeah kinda task your choice out of it.
As you grow up you learn to realize that the only way to say NO is to say it with your hands sometimes.
This movie is a great representation how short term pleasures leads to your death sentence or a life of a “jackass” this movie hit me at a deeper level as I got older.. It helped me changed up my act and realized that life should be cherished and we should find meaningful things to do with this one life God gives us.. and that can be a variety of things. I’m starting college back up in hopes to graduate with an environmental science degree so I can contribute in making this planet a better place. It’ll be a long ride but I’m working hard right now to pay through college.
Clean your room
You should see how organised my office had to be in order to get this video done lol.
peterson is a hack you dipshit, start with the greeks
@@gsboss Why would start a conversation with dipshit you dipshit?
8:14 the most frightening image in Disney history
The fact that this is rated G kind of makes me blink twice.
it should be rated pg at most!!! maybe even pg-13.
the scene where they load the boat and go to pleasure island, departing and landing there are probably very close representations of how it actually looks more or less
I am a man in my 30's and I am STILL too frightened to watch this movie again. It really traumatized me as a child.
Yeah I can imagine, the fragile nature of a Childs imagination and the power of this work of art. Crazy!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ I WILL acknowledge that it is an incredible work of art and possibly one of the finest movies from the golden age of Walt Disney. Still scares the life out of me though lol
Great video, man. Pinocchio is one of my favourite films, and I loved your philosphical take on it.
1940. Jesus no wonder Walt is able to create an empire out of animation. The life inside of him and ambition is just so off the chart.
I was just thinking about this the other day. The story is very deep. And it’s symbolic to what’s going on today. People are being mislead into destruction being turned into donkeys. (Hint ...which organisation uses the donkey as their logo)
maybe donkey from shrek is a donkey from treasure island he always say he used to wear pants well a few lines in shrek 1 and 3
@Rich In Jesus The reason the donkey is the Democrat mascot is because President Andrew Jackson's election opponent publicly called Jackson a jackass, so Jackson started using a donkey on campaign posters. Like Jesus turning the other cheek.
this movie always stuck out to me as a kid...watched it dozens of times during the many long, summer holidays. seems i'm living this story in real life now...
This movie shows the reality of the system.
When I watched this movie as a kid, I fast fowarded on the scary parts
wonderful analysis on of Disney's most beloved classic i love this =D and i can't wait to see you do other Disney movies =)
Thanks, theres a reason everyone who grew up with those classic Disney films, still loves them. There was a quality and ambition with each of those film! Pinocchio was a personal favourite of mine.
your welcome and i 100% get that all the way and it's one of my all time personal faves also
On a lighter note, Gideon is one of my favorite disney villains. Although he is a mute his mannerisms and dramatic gestures always make me chuckle. I think he was just a boozed up cat following the orders of Honest John.
Yeah he seems like another sheep lost following someone else orders.
My man, he’s still here. Love ya work boss
Thanks man, planning on being regular with the videos this year, had to do a lot of screenwriting last year!
MUST SEE FILMS nice man, hoping to see some results! Would love to see some bts or notes on this new series of video essays as well hey
MUST SEE FILMS on Patreon I mean hahaha
Iv actually started doing that a little on instgram these days, but will also being doing some Q and A podcasts soon, so that will be good chance to share some info. instagram.com/_mustseefilms_/
MUST SEE FILMS legend
Oh, you know Pinocchio was a dark movie just by the fact that Walt Disney has a cigar on his hand
Walt Disney was a 33rd degree freemason.
it's rated g.....................
I barely saw this film for the first time earlier last year, and wow, it is a truly great but unsettling film, especially in the second act. It truly captured the darkness of life, but also glorified the purity of it as well. I think it's a mature kids movie, it handles it's themes well, so well that honestly, it's kinda creepy at times. There's good lessons here for kids to learn, more so than the ultra light hearted children's films today
Yeah its deeply truthful and when I was a child watching this film, the adventure and the animation were the things that captured me but as an adult the themes and meaning behind the artists choices make the film so much more to me now!
this was always my favorite disney movie because of how dark it was
I know, I was always scared when they went to the island as a child, but even now, the imagery is so gritty and the music at points is terrifying.
I love Pinocchio it's my favorite Disney movie but its sad.
What a fantastic essay on my all time favourite Disney movie. Bravo sir!
I think we can definitely relate to what Pinocchio feels when confronted by the Blue Fairy over what he did. It's hard to acknowledge when we've made mistakes and it's easier to hide them to spare our egos.
I grew up in the 80s, and this was one of my favourite films as a child. That and Disney's Robin Hood, and Sword in the Stone. I had super-christian helicopter parents, and Pleasure Island fascinated me. I went on to rebel hard in my teens, so maybe that was a foreshadowing. I certainly didn't find Pinocchio to be as dark as some other stuff I consumed as a child, such as Roald Dahl. But I suppose it is pretty dark for DIsney. I feel like your channel is very underrated btw.
Thanks man, yeah I also remember watching James and the giant peach and found it quite frightening as a child. Also I loved sword in the stone, had it recorded from TV on VHS.
Pinocchio scared the living lights out of my when I was younger I got scared that if a trusted a stranger I would be a donkey and that’s how I learned that you stick to your parents no matter what
7:40 OH HECK! THE COACHMAN USES DONKEYS TO PULL HIS CARRIAGE! I FINALLY HAVE MY ANSWER AS TO WHAT HAPPEBS TO THE BOYS ON PLEASURE ISLAND WHO CAN STILL TALK
So dark!
If you read the Bible and watch Pinocchio, there are deep parallels between them.
First, Pinocchio represents naive children who are easily swayed by sinful choices. Gippeto represents God in a small way. The coachman represents satan himself easily deceiving people into hell with the promise of pleasure. Gimini I represents the Holy Spirit which tells Christian’s what’s Godly and what isn’t.
When you turn against the hard path of doing what’s right and selfless, you eventually become a slave to sin physically and spiritually as you see with the donkey transformation.
Frozen, Moana and Zootopia wish they were 1% as good as Pinocchio, which I consider a perfect film. Rare, but it happens.
I know its on a whole new level of genius, plus the animation is amazing!
In some ways the story reminds me of the Parable of the Prodigal Son.
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can't wait to see all of this fascinating subtext ignored in their POS remake. I'm glad we'll always have this classic to come back to
Pinocchio is getting a Soulslike video game called “Lies of P” that is a dark retelling story of it
Hmmm, interesting, this is the first I've heard of this.
You think this is dark, you should see the Italian version.
What happens in it?
@@DK-gl3ih Pinocchio escapes Pleasure Island but the Coachman, Honest John and Gideon chase after him back to shore and recapture him and Stromboli returns at the end and they all hang Pinocchio.
@@lm64luigi85 Which version was that?
@@BoomerPhilips the original
@@kaloyanmanchev6613 But I never remembered Stromboli (Fire Eater) returning at the end to hang Pinocchio.
I just revisited the pleasure island donkey scene after all these years. That scene never scared me as a little kid, But now as an adult I got to say, that was one of the most terrifying scenes in any disney movie I have ever seen. Even more terrifying than any bloody gory horror movie out there.
Now I'm probably gonna get nightmares for a while watching this. LOL
I know, I had the same experience with ET. I watched is all the time as a child, but then a little older, I got terrified when ET gets ill and is dying. Shocked and scared me.
wonderful interpretation. i would also add that gepetto is the representative of the father/god .... pinocchio is his creation as christ/human....letting him go into the world is the representation of the fall/creation of ego/attempot to create real identity without god....pinocchio's return home where he finds and empty house is how he already turned so astray by darkness and corruption, and having now realised this world of "pleasures" brings only pain and suffering, he still can not just choose to reunite with father without a deep purification of the soul, although the father is looking for him as well so they reuinte but can not find eachother.....gepetto trapped in the belly of the whale represents how father/god is "trapped" in each of us by this darkness of the ego/idea of separation and this ultimate darkness we must acknowledge and face and in the end let go of and "escape" from to be reuinted with the father ...blue fairy is the holy spirit that is the essential guide to his return to the god/father and pinocchio, by sacrificing his imaginary worldly self/false identity for father, is reborn in his true identity of REAL existance and forever joined with his creator/god/father from where he originally came from.
Okay but why do sound like me when I need to use fancy synonyms for my essay
Glad to have you back, brotha! You bring a refreshing insight to films with these essays, keep up the great work.
Thanks man, pretty excited to be making videos again, getting to work on the next one!
This is so well said for the reason why adults understand this.
Its pretty amazing that you can enjoy this as a child but then have a secondary appreciation of it as an adult.
Epic... I always felt exactly like Pinocchio. To the T! Thank you for your work.
Thank time traveler. Pinocchio is such a great film, glad others are appreciating it.
Pinocchio becomes real after being fake. It seems symbolic to me of realizing yourself after you gain experience.
Yeah, you almost have to make mistakes in order to realise the correct path down the line. Theres almost no value in getting it right first time because you don't learn anything.
Excellent excellent excellent interpretation of this film phenomenal job to this narrator... Even taught me a grown man a few things that I may have missed
Happy to hear it Kirk! It was a fun video to make!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ keep it coming fam
@@kirkhugginsjr9317 Im gearing up with 2 new videos at the moment!
Just rewatched this after 6 years after watching it in middle school for a project and lessons but after watching it again I love this film it's probably my Disney film it's awesome and good I loved it and it's a masterpiece it's amazing:)
Amazing work
Thanks man, its a pretty interesting film to dig into, I mostly remember it from being a child and loving the film but also being afraid of it.
Well, i actually never felt "SCARED" by this movie, and i always (even as a little child) realized that's this movie is pretty dark...However one of my greatest fears is turning into a non talking ANIMAL, so the donkey scene was ALWAYS a little agonizing for me...
An excellent video bro. I loved the references to Peterson and Joseph Campbell. I am currently working on my second project and am taking deep interest in reading works by these types of people to help me with it. Let me know if you'd ever like to do a collaboration discussing this video dude. I'd love to discuss movies with you!
Pinocchio has got to be the closest Disney has ever come to making an animated horror movie. Especially with Lampwick’s transformation scene. And let’s not forget Monstro.
Animated horror. Thats a nice phase and very suiting here.
great stuff Darren.. hope ya good man :)
Thanks man! working on something exciting for the next one!
Great video. Thanks.
Great video, very enlightening. I am doing an esoteric series on Bioshock and looking into whether Pinocchio connects with Fool's card in Tarot. The similarities are striking as is the journey itself. Great job!
Thanks man, iv just recently been introduced to the Tarot cards and I'm actually quite blown away by them and how interesting they have been. Turns out my soul card is number 9, The Hermit.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ haha. Yeh for all us video makers..that seems the appropriate card! ;_
This was my favorite movie as a kid lol & I'm an 80s kid
I know the feeling!
excellent thanks
Thanks man, glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
MUST SEE FILMS seen it twice now and incite full thank you
Notice the ladder revealed inside the broken mirror around the 09:40-09:50 mark
You deserve more views Darren, keep up the good work.
Thanks man, Got lots of videos planned for this year so hopefully I'll be able to reach more people as I do more work.
My favourite disney movie
So this video is just published today, glad that I watch it so soon. Great work, really love the insights which you shared with us. Keep making videos, Darren!
Thanks man, iv got lots more videos planned this years, but really excited to finish and finally share this one!
I literally can’t watch the donkey scene in the original. The bit with Lampwick screaming for his mother is just plain horrifying, even as an adult. Do you think Lampwick was regretting his bad actions once he found out it was too late?
Not dark at all, just that in the past, adult content didn’t glorify immorality and kid content didn’t treat children as stupid
When I was a kid it didn’t scared me or something
This traumatized me when I was younger but it was actually Monstro that scarred me
Yeah Monstro and the donkey sequence was horrifying as a child!
The donkey slavery bit was always the scary bit for me. The fact that everyone was getting trapped and rounded up horrified me.
AND IT NEVER GOT RESOLVED. These bad guys won. Pinocchio was only barely able to save himself. Everyone else got fucked!
@@miroslavputinovic6650 Yeah I know and they make no reference to the other boys at the end of the film, they are kinda just discarded, haunting!
The story: Pinnochio was a little puppet boy that was very naughty. The cricket (I dont know his name) tells him to do somrthin very bad. Pinnochio then gets a hammer and bashes the cricket. Time spam......... pinnochio then starts getting in bad situations to the point where he gets his legs burned off, and gets hanged up on a tree with a rope around his neck. I hope this helped you with the story.
That was the story I read before I even saw Disney's softened version.
The cricket’s name is Jiminy Cricket.
Awesome work Darren. Love these video's so much dude.
Thanks man, this was a fun one to make, really happy I finally got it done!
I so miss these Disney movies dark & beautiful & Peter Pan is the 1 Disney movie based off the darkest fairy tale where as Pinocchio is the darkest Disney movie based off a dark fairy tale .
Hmm good point! like it!
Pinocchio 2022 he learns nothing.
lol I haven't watched it all yet, but iv heard mixed things.
10:21 is that supposed to be pleasure island at the back to the right?
Seems like it might be. Would make sense I think.
I had seen this once as a child and blocked out all the uneasy and sad parts, I now realize after watching it again just last night. This movie should have scared me as a child but I guess I blocked it out. And now with the remake, in this climate it's so telling that it's always been right in front of us. Sex trafficking. This is arguably the darkest Disney movie and the fact that it's one of the first ones made just makes me sad. Another eyeopener that Disney has always been feeding us these bread crumbs.
@@pattoc0r3 really? Some old guy wants a little boy and he gets taken to 'Pleasure Island'
I saw this movie as a kid and for some reason it didn’t scare me
Back then, it was a little creepy. Now as an adult watching it again, it's dark!
@@casesoutherland4175 i guess my autistic self is immune to some scary things
Man you should really listen to Jordan Peterson talk about... Oh wait nevermind😂